Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Rep. Barry Loudermilk & Carol Roth ｜ 3⧸13⧸24
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In this episode of the Glenn Beck Program, Glenn is joined by Rep. Barry Lodermilk (R-GA) and Carol Roth (D-VA) to talk about the scandal that is the January 6th Committee, Steve Baker, and all the corruption in Washington.
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There is a lot on today's show that you need to hear.
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including now what's being called vigilante law in Connecticut, of all places.
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Steve Baker and all the corruption in Washington.
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And we have a fascinating conversation with Carol Roth.
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If you have an LLC, you have a small business, anything, anything,
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you've got to listen to this conversation with Carol Roth.
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First, I want to talk to you about Jace Medical.
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You know, the good people over the Chinese Communist Party,
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major medicine shortages throughout the United States all of a sudden, why?
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Our good friends, the Chinese, they would just make more of it
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Of course, now they've got a lot of fentanyl coming over, you know,
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so they'd have to wait in line for the fentanyl
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because there's a big demand for that here in the United States, apparently.
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And they're willing to do it and send it right to Mexico
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And unfortunately, most of our medications are made not here in America.
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It's a pack of different antibiotics that you can use
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to treat a host of bacterial illnesses in an emergency.
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It's something you can keep in your home, ready for use in a situation
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where you otherwise can't get the medication that you need.
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there's going to be a vast majority of vital medications.
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You can get all the medications your family takes.
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You can have a year's supply worth at your house.
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Barry is a congressman from the great state of Georgia.
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He is on the House Administration Subcommittee on Oversight that is currently working to clean up the mess of Liz Cheney and her January 6th committee.
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Barry, I've got several things I want to cover with you.
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You told me on the phone once, and I read it in your report, that they were informed that they had to turn over all of the records, all of the testimony, and they didn't.
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Then they said they didn't know about any other files.
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Then when you found the files, they were locked and they said, oh, we don't know anything about a password.
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Is it a, is it a, I mean, has that happened before?
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And there are clear rules in the House of Representatives of what should be preserved, what has to be preserved, and what you don't have to preserve.
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If, let's say, there was, you interviewed somebody that was totally irrelevant, they had nothing to say, and you're just like, whoops, we should have never even talked to you.
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That's something you probably don't have to preserve, especially if you didn't use their testimony.
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But anything that's relevant or exculpatory, then, or even, let's say, the transcript or the videos of your interviews are something you definitely have to keep.
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And we know for a fact, because they admitted, they discarded the thousands of videos because every person they interviewed, they videotaped.
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And of all the information that they didn't keep or they hid or they deleted, these are the most critical.
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And they totally got rid of all of those videotapes and admitted that they did because they said, hey, you've got the written transcripts of these.
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Well, first of all, we didn't have all the written transcripts.
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They sent some to the White House, some to Homeland Security, which we're still working on getting.
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And there were some documents, and we still don't know what those are, that they deleted from the hard drives.
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They told us they were giving us four and a half terabytes of digital data.
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That's why we started, that's why we hired a forensics team to look at these hard drives.
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And that's where they recovered these password-encrypted documents that have been deleted.
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When I asked the chairman, he says, I don't even know what you're talking about, much less no password.
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So, Barry, if I did this and I was under investigation and I did this, I would immediately go to jail.
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But nobody in Congress ever seems to worry about that.
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There doesn't seem to be anything that sends anyone to jail.
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But that is to protect you from lawsuits or legal action for what you do in the course of your business being a legislator.
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I've already been threatened with being subpoenaed or sued just for revealing the truth.
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But I'm protected under the speech and debate clause because we have a real legislative purpose in what we're doing.
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The Congress and the Senate and the president need protection as they are pursuing their job.
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So if you want to make a claim on the floor, you can make a claim and nobody can sue you, et cetera, et cetera.
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We are talking about the willful destruction of things the people of the United States paid for.
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And if they don't classify things to keep us away from it and to keep many of you guys who have oversight away from it, then they just seem to destroy it.
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I don't know that anything to this level, not I shouldn't say hasn't happened before, but never been exposed.
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And so there's there's so much more investigation that we're doing.
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I don't want to really opine on what could happen in the future, because we may uncover a whole lot more that even adds on to just how how obstructive that they really were.
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And you also have the issue of, well, you have most of the members of that committee are still in Congress, but you do have Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger and some others that are not.
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They're not currently protected by some of those same things.
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But it also gives us the ability of those that are in Congress.
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We do have certain actions that can be taken within the body.
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And what I've told our team is let's just keep digging.
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Let's keep going down the path we're going, because right now we have literally informants coming out of the woodwork.
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Now that they've seen what we're doing is we're doing it in an unbiased manner.
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And we even have folks who, let's say, would more lean toward Democrats that are coming to us saying, I've got information.
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I don't like Donald Trump, but I hate the injustice that I see being done.
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This is about the railroading of American citizens like I've never seen before.
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It was Jim Jordan yesterday issued a letter on behalf of our journalist, Steve Baker, to the United States Attorney Matthew Graves and is demanding all of the documents and communication internal to know why this guy was treated differently than the New York Times.
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Nobody believes that any of this is going to change a darn thing, which is frightening, quite honestly.
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Well, I can anticipate what the FBI is going to say, and I've got some personal theories about this, but they're going to say this is an active investigation, so we can't provide you.
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Which is potentially, let me just say this, potentially one of the reasons that they've done this is so certain information that he was working on can't be subpoenaed or that won't be provided to Congress.
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Because that's one theory of why they've gone after him and not the others, because he was on to something.
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Look, my dad, a World War II veteran, used to tell me all the time, you took the most incoming fire when you were over the target.
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So the fact that this has been done to Steve Baker is a red flag to me is he's on to something.
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Yeah, and I know one of the things he's working on, I believe you do too, and that has to be sewn up.
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If it's false, then it's false and shouldn't be spoken of.
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But if it's true, it's one of the worst things.
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I think it's regime changing, and I use the word regime intentionally.
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And people don't go to these extreme measures to cover up something that isn't real.
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I mean, there's got to be there, there, or they're not going to go to this level.
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TikTok, this bill is going through Congress today, and Stu and I look at it, I think, the same way.
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We're for free speech, and I don't like regulating anybody.
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However, these guys are intentionally taking us down.
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However, is this a Trojan horse that can be used against people like us down the road?
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I think there is something that needs to be done with TikTok, because what people need to understand is this application is owned and operated by the Chinese Communist Party for one thing, and it's to disrupt the Americans, our culture, to influence the culture.
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Look, some of the people who are defending TikTok are already upset about the amount of data big tech is taking from American citizens every day without their knowledge, and in my estimation, unconstitutionally and illegally.
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But yet they're defending TikTok, who's doing the same thing, and it's going to an enemy of the United States.
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So we have to be very careful, because I also don't trust the government.
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I know that we will take any law to the extreme and try to use it.
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And I think under this legislation, which forces the divesture of TikTok from the Chinese Communist Party.
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And look, I want to protect Glenn Beck and the Blaze and every other, even the liberal media.
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I would say the same about the Braily Beast, which I despise.
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But I don't think that we have to provide that same level of protection to the Chinese Communist Party.
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And one of the reasons, Glenn, that we're going to such efforts to expose the truth is because we have never before in American history has there been this much distrust of America, of our own government, of the people in the government.
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And I think as bad as we are, we're still the best it's ever been.
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And there's nothing we're going through we haven't been through before in this country and overcome.
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We've got to get our eyes back on our cause of liberty and things that our founders, you know, have envisioned for this country.
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We have to have a healthy distrust for our government.
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But the people also have to know that there are still people here that want you to know the truth of what happened, because if we don't know the truth, we won't stop the same thing from repeating itself.
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And when you look at this thing that Liz Cheney did, it isn't just the false information they put out.
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But when you look at like Cassidy Hutchins testimony that they took hers hook, line and sinker without even questioning it.
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Two months later, they interview the driver of the SUV who was supposedly the one that Trump tried to take the steering wheel from.
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They didn't even ask him about that event when they interviewed him.
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You would think of anybody that would ask that he had to interject it himself that that never happened.
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They also only referenced pipe bomb five times in almost a thousand page report.
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They're not they're not asking the questions on the pipe bomb.
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But they mentioned Donald Trump 1900 times, 1900 times.
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And the president of the United States was not even part of the tasking from the resolution that established the committee.
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The security failure at the Capitol was and they didn't hardly address that whatsoever.
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This was designed from the beginning to legislatively prosecute Trump and to push a false narrative.
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You can see it all the way through from the documents that they tried to keep from the American people,
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which is any exculpatory information that they suppressed, documents that they deleted and the questions they didn't ask people that they were afraid would contradict other information they got that they liked.
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That is just cherry picking, trying to find whatever will support your predetermined narrative.
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That's not the way our system is designed here in the United States.
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So our job is just to put the truth out there to the American people and let them decide, you know, what really happened.
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He's been remarkable on this and he's a pit bull that just is not going to let go.
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And there's a few of them in Congress like Barry that are really, I mean, I think they have their heart in the right place.
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This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program, and we really want to thank you for listening.
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Carol Roth, the author of You Will Own Nothing, former investment banker and good friend of
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the program, is here to, I guess we should start with the presidential budget that is
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I keep calling it the budget of horrors because it takes the American dream and it turns it
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And there are two pieces I think that we should discuss.
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One is the just top-line insanity of it, the fact that we are at this precipice where we
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We're on an unsustainable fiscal trajectory, yet there is no seriousness about fixing it.
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The other piece, which I think may be even more important, is that this gives you a glimpse
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into the democratic agenda, which is incredibly nefarious, and they are trying to come after
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This is in the budget, all of these proposals for straight-up wealth taxes and wealth grabs.
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And I don't know that enough attention is being given to that.
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So they are actually, within this budget, proposing a wealth tax.
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And if you go to one of Biden's quote-unquote fact sheets, I love the fact that they just
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They're repeating one of their favorite lies, which is that billionaires only pay an 8% tax
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rate, which I'm sure you're thinking you hear that like I am.
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This tracks back a couple of years when the White House did a study and they looked at
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all of billionaires' income, including unrealized gains in their stock.
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That means their stock has appreciated, but they have not sold it.
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And they said, well, if we were to tax that, what kind of a rate would they be paying?
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If they start taxing somebody's unrealized wealth, that means as your house gains in
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And so what they're doing, and this is nefarious, and this tracks what I laid out and you will
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own nothing, is they're saying, well, we're just going to do this for billionaires, that
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we're going to go ahead and we're going to start taxing the wealth of billionaires to
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And once you concede, because a lot of people will go, oh, well, you know, that sounds good.
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Once you give up, that it is okay to do that, that property rights don't matter, that the
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government has the ability to confiscate your wealth, which is what it is, and that is not
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constitutional currently, but that is what it is, then they're going to say, well, you
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We don't have enough and we need to save Medicare and we need to save Social Security, so we're
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And that is your pension, your 401k, like you said, your house, and this is how we lose
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So I just have to disagree with you because there's not an example, for instance, Woodrow
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Wilson coming out and saying that we're going to create a national income tax, but it's only
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going to be on the millionaires and it will never go higher than 7%.
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And within two years, it was on the millionaires, a little higher than 7%, it was 95%.
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And then that wasn't enough money, so they had to go down and now we all have a personal
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And not only just the straight up wealth tax, but also the inheritance tax.
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There's about $84.4 trillion that is set to turn over in the next couple of decades.
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The big chunk of that is from the middle class and they want access to that money.
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So another thing that they are throwing in here, Biden says, well, we're going to stop
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with this, you know, the inheritance, you know, give away.
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When you pass money down, you know, instead of that going, some portion of that going tax
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free to your heirs, that we're going to change that.
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And then on top of this, Glenn, this is even even more fun.
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So this is the amount that you pay on money that you put at risk that you've already been
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So this is when you go and you buy a stock or you buy a house and it appreciates in value
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because you are risking that money and you've already been taxed on it and you don't know
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if that gain is if there's going to be a gain or if there's going to be a loss, there's
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a risk involved to incentivize that they have a lower rate for income that's earned on that.
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Again, just going after people who make a million dollars, but they want to put that at the
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What that does, that not only seizes up capital allocation and is going to completely change
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the opportunities that we have, but again, once that comes down, that is the way that
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You get the opportunity for those to appreciate and you get a break because you've taken that
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They're trying to take all of this away and everybody's very caught up in the headline number,
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which is insane, but this is the flash forward.
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This is a glimpse into what the democratic agenda is going to be.
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And by the way, Glenn, this is not just the president.
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This is Congress because because Congress is the one who ultimately is going to pass this.
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We cannot be voting for Democrats because this is what they want to do.
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So, let me ask you, the budget came out and his budget for next year, I think is, what was
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It was 3 or 4.2 trillion two years ago, three years ago.
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You know, that's a pretty remarkable number in case anybody doesn't know.
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But it also said that he's raising taxes by $5.5 trillion.
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So, the proposal looked like that is over a period of time.
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However, as we know, these statements, when they put these budgets together, they assume
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that everything is going to work in the same way.
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And the proposals that he's put forth to raise taxes will do things that slow down the economy
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Just like when you had the Trump tax cuts, when people said, oh my God, that raised the
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revenue that was received because that's how this works.
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And you want to have those dollars in people's hands making productive decisions in the economy
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instead of nonproductive wealth transfers between the government.
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So, this estimate that if everything goes perfectly, that they're going to even be able to raise
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if all this went through, is kind of silly to begin with.
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Like you said, the headline that he has goes up to $45.1 trillion within a decade, which
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is actually lower than the CBO's projections, which I think are conservative.
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But it just shows that there is no fiscal responsibility.
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There's nobody who's coming in to say that we're going to change this.
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And this means that we're going to be dealing with ongoing inflation, ongoing taking away
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of your purchasing power in a best-case scenario.
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I don't think Donald Trump is, I mean, you know, he's not worried about debt because he
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believes you do the things that, you know, increase your revenue.
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But this debt, at what point, Carol, does this fall apart?
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We have the largest debt ever accumulated on human earth.
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And realize it is absolutely impossible to pay this debt back.
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How long do we have before everything is crushed by it?
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Well, like I said, it's not impossible to pay it back.
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You hit the nail on the head when you talked about increasing revenues.
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And we don't have a Congress that is removing barriers and doing the things that is going
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to create this, you know, so-called productivity miracle.
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So in the absence of having that productivity or, God forbid, some mass event that, you know,
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impacts the population where all of a sudden they don't have to pay out these promises
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anymore, what they're going to be left with is just issuing more debt.
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And unfortunately, you don't have the ability for people to continually absorb that at any
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particular given price based on where we are debt to GDP.
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There's there's not this exact spot where we got to X.
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But we are certainly, you know, I was saying we were inching closer to this and people were
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And unfortunately, anytime somebody tries to have this realistic conversation, there's
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always the political talking points because people don't want to hear it and they want
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But you cannot get what was promised to you and have it mean the same thing.
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They are going to basically inflate, inflate, inflate.
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And so you may get your quote unquote million dollars and find that your million dollars,
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you know, equates to buying a loaf of bread one day.
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And unfortunately, that's the path that well, I tell you, you know, who we owe this money
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to is the Federal Reserve, which is the banks, the banks in America.
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We own apparently all this money to now they're the major funder for everything we're doing.
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Um, why don't they just, well, because it's on every citizen's head, it's on every citizen's
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So what's going to stop them when it comes time to collect to say, you're sorry, you're
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Well, and that's why it's so scary for us to see this flash of what's in front of us
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seeing in the budget, these proposed wealth taxes, they are telegraphing to you that this
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This is the way that they are going to get themselves out of the promises that they've
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They are going to come and take your money and say that it's for your benefit and they're
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saving Social Security and they're saving Medicare and the government is here to help
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Well, we've seen what the government help has done to the middle and the working class over
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We literally cannot afford any more government help.
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You need to wake up everybody that you know, even the people who don't believe it, they
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Glenn and I will talk to wear blue in the face and try to explain this over and over again.
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But people have to understand that at the end of the day, there's only so much math.
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There are certain promises at the end that equation has to balance and it is way out
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I wanted to talk to you about crime and things that are happening in our cities, and I have
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But first, I have to give you an update on something that I talked about on Friday.
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On Friday, I told you that we were at Mercury One and my history collection, we had just
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purchased a very, very rare uniform, prisoner uniform, from a prisoner's family in Auschwitz.
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It's very rare because it was the hat, the pants, the cloak, all matching numbers.
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Now, as we find out now, it was actually the problem of the auction house.
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They misnumbered or sent the wrong information with it.
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So when it went through customs, it was stopped.
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And then we got a notice, I think on Thursday, that it had been lost in the system.
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And needless to say, that was not a good thing.
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This is extraordinarily rare and important because it's not a Jewish star.
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And that means that you were against Hitler and you were either for capitalism or communism.
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And you had to go away because you just wouldn't shut up.
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Friday, I just asked if you would pray for its whereabouts.
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Well, the chairman of the board of FedEx, somebody or he, somebody in his office or maybe him, heard me talk about it and reached out immediately, put us in charge with the client manager.
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If you have something that is lost or stolen, you reach out and ask for client managers.
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Reggie Whitley was assigned to this case and he found it.
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And I got to tell you, this is so important because I was thinking last week, how do I ever send a package?
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Because I had just sent a package of some other rare piece that needed repair.
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I had gone to New York just to deliver it, to make sure it was safe.
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I gave it to people that I didn't know were going to send it overseas and they did.
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When I found out about it, the response was, yeah, that's happening a lot lately.
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And that is in somebody's pocket or on their shelf or I don't know where.
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Because they're having a problem with theft, at least with this one merchant.
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And that's what I was afraid of because of the last experience I had with UPS, that it was stolen.
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And I thought, this thing's going to be, nobody will know what this is.
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I know exactly who we will trust to send anything for repairs or from auction houses or anything.
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Thank you for giving me some semblance of trust in something in today's world.
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Thank you to the chairman and also Reggie Whitley, the client manager.
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If you're watching us on Blaze TV, you've seen these in, you know, every film.
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Just a tremendous piece of history that was about to be lost.
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I want to talk to you some more about crime and theft and what's happening in our country.
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However, every day I like to start my day with some scripture reading and some prayer.
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Instead, he should make an honest living by his own efforts.
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This way, he'll be able to share with those in need.
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And I could have stopped reading there, but I, no.
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Only good words that are helpful in meeting the need.
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Don't cause grief to God's Holy Spirit, for he has stamped you as his property until the day of final redemption.
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Get rid of all bitterness, rage, anger, violent assertiveness, and slander, along with all spitefulness.
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Instead, be kind to one another, tenderhearted, and forgive one another, just as God in Christ has forgiven you.
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So, I read that, and I thought, good night, everybody.
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But I'm going to say it and try to remember to be not bitter, enraged, angry, no assertiveness, and slander.
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The Missouri AG, who is a friend of the program, Andrew Bailey, has said that a 15-year-old suspect should be tried for murder, and maybe an adult, instead of juvenile.
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Bashing her head into the concrete over and over and over again.
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She was transported to the hospital in critical condition.
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She's been held by the St. Louis County Family Court on assault charges.
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In a statement, the AG said, this is evil and a complete disregard for human life, and it has no place in Missouri or anywhere.
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The criminal should be charged and tried as an adult.
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If the victim dies, that offense should rise to homicide.
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I mean, it is the opposite of everything that is good.
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By the way, there was an adult parent that was there at the fight and did nothing.
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Only one teenager stepped up and tried to stop the fight, and they were pulled away by the other teenagers.
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But the one who did it should be tried as an adult, because these crimes are not kiddie crimes anymore.
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The way they are carried off without any regard, it's heinous.
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Retail giant that runs the Fulton Transit Center in lower Manhattan wants out of its deal with the MTA.
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They say they shouldn't be held to this lease anymore,
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because no one wants to come in and experience theft, property damage, bodily harm, or threats.
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And they say they can't get people to even work there, let alone come shop there.
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They first shut down the indoor, you know, eatery.
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Then somebody broke in, took a chain, put it around the safe, and pulled it through the window with their car.
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One place has been robbed once a month for the last four months.
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So then that place started taking just, you know, just credit cards.
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They started writing, they started getting the people who were in line and robbing them.
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Knife-wielding New York City bandits steal more than $200 in paper towels.
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They pull 20 packs of paper towels off the shelves, and somebody inside tries to stop them.
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One of them pulls out a knife and says, back off.
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The homeless man who was the partner, he was arrested.
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Well, there's no bail, so he's probably definitely out.
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Then you have a San Diego mom, California mom of three,
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that has been accused of masterminding an organized crime ring
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If you look at the picture of this story, Stu, that's her garage.
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She has texts back and forth to all of her gang,
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But my wife, who spends approximately 47% of her days
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in makeup stores, was at a makeup store locally
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with my daughter, and they were looking at stuff,
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and two women walked in with giant black plastic bags
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and filled the plastic bags in front of all of the employees
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And everyone was like, what the hell just happened?
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And then I'll explain why do we have to go there?
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the Self-Defense Brigade and have started to patrol
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Cornell Lewis, the founder of the Self-Defense Brigade,
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said, we're legally armed and we're just patrolling.
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as they walk around the violent parts of the city.
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was patrolling and even cleaning up Garden Street
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because we believe we have to keep the community safe
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I'm going to come back to this story in just a second.
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Let me give you what they're doing on the other coast.
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We're all in the same boat all across the city of Oakland.
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he is now saying he's trying to get other businesses
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in Oakland to agree to stop paying their taxes.
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until they give us the services that we deserve
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Well, you're obviously not taking care of the city.
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because we believe we have to keep the community safe
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They are cleaning up the city on Saturday afternoons
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Our whole country has become like tenement buildings
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and they go down because nobody really owns them.
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Why is the city or why is this slumlord not fixing this?
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People will usually take care of things that they own.
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You're more likely to throw a rock through a window pane
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But the average person will never pick up a rock
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and throw it through a window of someplace that's nice.