The Glenn Beck Program - September 25, 2024


Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Rep. Barry Loudermilk & Max Lucado ｜ 9⧸25⧸24


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Max Lucado joins the show to talk about the end times and what they may look like. And Rep. Barry Loudermilk of Georgia joins the program to finally have some more truth about President Trump s actions in trying to make sure that January 6th didn t get out of control.

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00:00:00.000 On today's podcast, if you are a religious person, you want to hear this poll.
00:00:05.780 Religious people, only about 50% vote. 50%. You need to listen to today's episode. It's
00:00:12.560 very important that you take what is said seriously. And we talked to Max Lucado about
00:00:17.300 that. He joins the program to talk about this and even a little bit about the end times and
00:00:21.200 what they may look like. And are we in them? And Representative Barry Loudermilk of Georgia
00:00:26.640 joins the program. We finally have some more truth about President Trump's actions in trying
00:00:31.180 to make sure that January 6th didn't get out of control. It's really important, so important
00:00:36.240 that President Trump gets this out there to everyone to see. Maybe you can help on that.
00:00:42.580 And we heard from some of you how bad your energy and insurance prices have skyrocketed under
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00:00:53.040 in with the best of the Glenn Beck podcast. We have it for you next.
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00:02:36.340 So let me just give you some data here on the latest poll from George Barna to determine how
00:02:45.300 many people of faith are going to go out and vote. What would you say? People of, you know,
00:02:51.820 that are religious or how many, what's a percentage that actually go out and vote?
00:02:57.280 I mean, 60, 70. Hmm. Yeah. Well, in 2020, it was 61%. Okay. Yeah. That's maybe where my
00:03:06.100 impression came from. In 2016, it was 54.6. Wrong direction there. In 2012, 53. Now, based
00:03:19.060 on the survey, the new one, seven weeks prior to the election, if the election were held
00:03:25.640 at the time of the survey, the expected turnout would be 50%. Surprising. It's going down. Yeah.
00:03:37.680 Of all things, you'd think almost the feelings are more intense to vote than they would be
00:03:42.520 25 years ago. Now, can you imagine if 70% of people who identified them, identified themselves
00:03:52.140 as religious and were actually using the principles that they learned, actually went out and voted? Can
00:04:00.480 you imagine? My next six weeks are hell, Glenn? This is my, not my worst time of the year, but my
00:04:08.120 worst time of the four years? Yeah. This section of life sucks. Yeah, I know. Right? And if that
00:04:15.640 happened, it would make my life a lot better because I wouldn't have to really think that much about
00:04:20.220 this stuff. I wouldn't have to run numbers every day. I wouldn't have to do any of that stuff because
00:04:23.700 Donald Trump would win easily. If he was, if he had seven, if it was instead of 50% of voters who
00:04:29.620 were religious voting, it was 70, there wouldn't be much of a doubt of who's going to win this election.
00:04:34.180 If you are a theologically defined born-again Christian, 52% turnout. Protestant, 52%. Catholic, 58%.
00:04:48.180 Evangelical, 53%. Mainline Protestant church, 57%. Pentecostal, 50%. Attend a non-denominational
00:04:59.180 Christian church, 46%. Self-identified Christian, 52%. Align with non-Christian faith, 50%. Self-identified
00:05:09.040 Christian regularly attends church, 61%. Now, here's the reason why people say they're not voting.
00:05:15.560 The reason, given by two-thirds of the non-voters, 68%, they say they're just not interested in politics
00:05:24.640 or elections. You probably should be because they're interested in you. Politicians are certainly
00:05:32.120 interested in you and they're really interested when you don't pay attention. 68%, I don't pay
00:05:39.920 attention. Other reasons, more than half of the non-voters included disliking all of the major
00:05:45.600 candidates. 57%. 55% feeling that none of the candidates reflect their most important views.
00:05:54.140 52% say, my vote's not going to make a difference. Half of the non-voters say they will avoid voting
00:06:01.500 because the election has become too controversial for their liking. 48% say, well, the election's going to
00:06:10.760 be rigged. Not knowing enough about the candidate, 48%. How is that possible? I mean, all of the things
00:06:20.160 that you could say, that one, I don't know enough. Well, you're seven weeks away. You could, you know,
00:06:27.340 you could look them up. You could do that. Guys, voting started. It's time to get the engines running.
00:06:34.840 How many states have already started voting? I don't know that. Pennsylvania, Minnesota,
00:06:39.080 South Dakota, New Jersey, Vermont, Virginia, Illinois, and Wyoming start this week. So that's time.
00:06:47.140 I mean, it might be time to look at it. Right. So here's a couple of things that you can do.
00:06:53.200 If you are in a church, you need to convince your pastor or priest or whatever to teach the
00:07:03.760 congregants that voting is a biblical responsibility of every Christian, it would cause an estimated 17%
00:07:12.440 of the people of faith who plan not to vote actually participate in election day. If your pastor,
00:07:19.240 your priest, your leader said, this is biblically required, your participation in an election to pick
00:07:28.560 sound people. That's your responsibility. 17% more would vote.
00:07:36.620 Hmm. Is that true?
00:07:38.140 No, I just made those numbers up.
00:07:39.780 No, no, I don't mean the numbers. I mean, is it biblically required?
00:07:43.020 Yes. Oh yeah. To select, to select righteous leaders.
00:07:47.840 I mean, I, I mean, I think it's a service and certainly a civic duty, but I don't think I'd ever
00:07:51.480 thought about it in those terms. And I, I mean, we talk about this stuff all the time.
00:07:54.340 I certainly, that would make, I mean, if, if someone made a good argument to me other than
00:07:58.760 you, um, that would probably, if I was a person on the fence.
00:08:02.880 I can get somebody on.
00:08:04.040 No.
00:08:04.460 I can get somebody on.
00:08:05.380 But I think if I was on the fence on that and I heard, hey, like, here's this scripture that tells
00:08:09.420 you, you need to do this. That, that would be something that I think from a pastor or priest.
00:08:14.360 Sarah, see if we can get Max Licato on the phone. Uh, another 14% claim that if they perceived
00:08:20.540 the race to be close enough that their vote might actually make a difference, then they
00:08:24.500 would cast a ballot. Well, I mean, it doesn't get any closer than this one. And yeah. And
00:08:31.940 Donald Trump once states, I mean, what was the closest state? 11,000? About that. Yeah.
00:08:37.640 Yeah. 11,000. Yeah. If, if it's very, very close. Yeah. If you choose, they're going to be
00:08:43.160 other people like you. It is razor thin. Close. A guilt-based or fear-based strategy might
00:08:52.620 impact one out of every 10. You're going to hell if you don't do it. I like that. I mean,
00:08:57.040 I'm willing to say that. I mean, I'm not going to judge it, but you are going to hell if you
00:09:00.380 don't. One out of, uh, uh, one out of 10 non-voters said that if a religious leader they
00:09:06.640 highly respect endorsed a presidential candidate, then they could justify voting. What, what
00:09:13.140 is that? I don't understand that. I don't understand that one at all. I mean, you don't
00:09:19.420 trust yourself. You don't have your own intellect. You don't have access to God. What, what is
00:09:24.900 that? You do your own homework, then you pray on it and you make a decision based on that.
00:09:31.020 So what are the things, what are the things that can actually make a difference? Well, let's
00:09:41.040 look, uh, for those people who, um, who are objecting that they're not interested in politics
00:09:49.120 or election. I know it seems like Washington is a far, far away place. However, political
00:09:59.320 decisions influence everything you do. This one could mean you either keep your healthcare
00:10:05.840 or you lose your healthcare. One candidate is saying they're going to get rid of all private
00:10:11.640 insurance and we're going to go to a system like Canada. You don't want that. So you have
00:10:19.540 healthcare. How about education? Are your kids in school? Tell me how one side is the
00:10:29.320 is pushing for drag queen story hours in kindergarten and taking away your children. If you don't 0.78
00:10:36.060 confirm their gender selection, uh, how does that not affect you? It's not removed from you. It
00:10:46.100 is very, very close. One is talking about a, a, uh, taking away private businesses. If they cared
00:10:55.640 to taking away your right to free speech, you can't say certain things. And if you do, you could go to
00:11:03.840 jail. You'll be shut down. One is talking about, uh, price controls, which over and over and over
00:11:14.580 again throughout history will drive the cost of your food and everything you buy through the roof.
00:11:21.360 It doesn't work. How does that not personally affect you? It does. It does. Everything you do.
00:11:33.420 This election will touch you. You dislike all of the candidates. Okay. I can get that. I, I, I, I understand
00:11:47.380 that, but sometimes it is the lesser evil mentality, but I don't think that's the case here.
00:11:56.600 I think you could make a case that there is evil. And then there is, I don't like the guy.
00:12:07.000 Anyone who tries to take your freedom to choose your freedom, they will make the decisions for you.
00:12:15.540 They will run your life. They will tell you what stove you can and cannot buy. They will tell you
00:12:20.800 what you do with your own property. They will tell you exactly how you're paid. They'll, they'll,
00:12:28.140 they'll take more of your money to do what with it to, to go kill more people around the world.
00:12:35.800 I mean, look, I, I was for the Iraq war. I was wrong on that. It was the information I had at the time, but
00:12:46.520 I really thought we were, I thought we were really different this time around. I thought we were going
00:12:51.760 in to win things, uh, and not just to flex our muscles and, and really do nothing but waste lives.
00:13:00.540 We see that that wasn't true. I've changed. I think most people have changed.
00:13:11.060 So what side are you on the side of, you know, it's really amazing to me.
00:13:19.380 The only right that Kamala's side will fight for is the right to kill. 0.88
00:13:27.240 You don't have a right to free speech.
00:13:34.000 You don't have a right to think differently.
00:13:38.440 You don't have a right to stand up and say, no, wait a minute. Hang on just a second. I don't think
00:13:42.820 that's right. You're going to lose your right to your property.
00:13:48.300 What right do they stand for? The right to murder children, the right to mutilate children and the
00:13:58.820 right to go to war and kill people. That doesn't sound good.
00:14:08.400 None of the candidates reflect your most important views.
00:14:11.600 What are your most important views?
00:14:16.020 My most important view is individual freedoms and liberties.
00:14:22.300 That everybody has a right to make their own way.
00:14:26.360 If your most important views don't reflect the Declaration of Independence,
00:14:33.280 then you're not really, you don't know what an American is.
00:14:38.880 An American believes that there are certain things that are self-evident,
00:14:42.860 and among these things are life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness,
00:14:45.800 and that all men are created equal and endowed by their creator with certain
00:14:50.600 unmovable rights that no man can change.
00:14:55.840 And the governments are instituted among men to protect those rights. 0.67
00:15:00.600 So the government's real power is not in Washington.
00:15:04.020 It's with you.
00:15:07.540 I can't think of a more important idea than that one.
00:15:14.100 And you might think, well, of course I believe that.
00:15:17.080 Well, yeah, but a lot of people no longer believe that.
00:15:21.340 If you do believe that, you have to go and vote for that.
00:15:26.100 Because one side believes in that, the other side no longer believes it.
00:15:29.940 They'll give you lip service, but they're also telling you they're not,
00:15:33.140 you know, they're not for banning fracking.
00:15:36.840 They're not for all of these crazy bills that they were for.
00:15:40.700 They're, excuse me?
00:15:44.620 Kamala's whole life, her whole life has been about those things.
00:15:51.980 In six weeks, she just changed her mind on everything?
00:15:56.140 It's not reasonable.
00:16:00.800 And as I said, your vote will make a difference.
00:16:05.660 It's closer than you think even in Texas.
00:16:09.800 Everyone needs to vote.
00:16:11.540 And if you're a religious person, it doesn't matter if your vote doesn't count.
00:16:18.300 It will.
00:16:20.300 But you have a civic and religious responsibility to let your voice be heard in selecting good,
00:16:31.640 honorable, or the most honorable person that you can find.
00:16:37.240 The one that is standing up for the principles that you and I believe in.
00:16:44.780 You know, once upon a time, we lived in a country with a wide diversity of opinions,
00:16:48.960 but a basic set of shared values.
00:16:51.720 See, that's the problem.
00:16:52.760 We're arguing opinions.
00:16:54.520 We should be arguing about values.
00:16:57.840 Do you think this is good for your children to have, you know,
00:17:00.980 laptop story hour?
00:17:04.960 Laptop really kind of takes new meaning now in schools.
00:17:07.980 I mean, really?
00:17:08.920 Is that good?
00:17:10.900 Is that our values?
00:17:13.980 We have to share values.
00:17:15.860 We might not all have the same religion or, you know, the same opinion,
00:17:19.320 but we could agree, for instance, that life was precious at one point.
00:17:24.300 We might not have belonged to the same political party,
00:17:26.680 but we could agree that government should be kept small.
00:17:30.140 These days, it's hard to find.
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00:18:22.540 Now, back to the podcast.
00:18:23.780 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program, and we really want to thank you for listening.
00:18:31.980 My good friend, Max Locato.
00:18:33.640 Hi, Max.
00:18:34.080 How are you?
00:18:35.300 Hello, Glenn.
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00:18:48.700 So, Max, let's start with a question that I had this morning.
00:18:55.440 Aren't we required, as followers of Christ and, you know, even the God of the Old Testament,
00:19:03.860 to vote and select leaders?
00:19:08.620 Absolutely.
00:19:09.900 Absolutely.
00:19:10.500 And on so many different levels.
00:19:13.220 But my go-to passage on this question, and by the way, thank you for letting me have just a couple of moments
00:19:20.540 to remind everybody that we are called, as believers, to support our government.
00:19:28.520 And the most direct teaching on this topic is in the book of Romans, chapter 13,
00:19:35.280 which is important to read in the context of Paul, writing a church that was a minority in society
00:19:46.540 and also in a culture that oppressed believers.
00:19:51.940 Okay, so with that in mind, listen to what he says.
00:19:55.900 He says every person must submit to and support the authorities over him.
00:20:01.280 Then he says there can be no authority in the universe except by God's appointment,
00:20:06.960 which means that every authority that exists has been instituted by God.
00:20:12.320 Now, that's an interesting scripture.
00:20:14.460 But I think what he's saying here, Glenn, is that God is sovereign.
00:20:19.040 And whether you like or don't like the person in charge, God is still in control.
00:20:25.600 Then later he says those in authority are God's servants.
00:20:28.960 And then he says, this is the reason you pay your taxes.
00:20:34.440 That's verse 6 of Romans 13.
00:20:36.540 You pay your taxes.
00:20:38.240 Now, he doesn't say this is the reason you vote, but he could have.
00:20:42.500 That's civic duty, right?
00:20:44.520 And so I think what he's reminding us to do is that if we live in a culture,
00:20:49.580 we have a role in supporting and directing the health of that culture.
00:20:56.000 And certainly that would include voting.
00:20:57.940 So, and Max, you can stop me at any time.
00:21:00.900 I don't know how far down this road you want to go.
00:21:03.000 But there are people that will say, well, I can't vote for Donald Trump because he's done all these bad things.
00:21:12.460 And, you know, whatever they're convinced of.
00:21:15.780 How do you talk to somebody if, because he does represent a much more biblical agenda than the other side?
00:21:34.760 And the other side is looking at things that just go against the scriptures like crazy.
00:21:42.780 How do you talk to people when you say, well, there's no, there's, I don't like either of them.
00:21:48.860 I get it.
00:21:51.240 I get it.
00:21:53.600 My response would be twofold.
00:21:56.940 Number one, I would say, go talk to somebody who has lost a loved one in military service or talk to somebody who has served overseas in an international conflict and go tell them that you don't want to vote.
00:22:15.000 But, you know, I've never, I've never shed blood for our country.
00:22:21.180 I never was called into military service.
00:22:24.540 But I hold in highest regard those who have.
00:22:27.520 And I think the least I can do for them, even if I'm struggling on finding a candidate, the least I can do for them is my patriotic call.
00:22:38.160 And that is that is to vote.
00:22:41.100 And then secondly, I might say, could you go with me to and pick out any number of countries, Glenn, Venezuela, Cuba, parts of, you know, Eastern Europe, Russia.
00:22:54.440 But let's go over there and let's talk to those people who never have had a chance to express their opinion.
00:23:03.460 And let's tell them that since we don't like our candidates, we're just not going to vote at all and see what they say to us.
00:23:10.400 They would say, oh, I would love just to have a voice, a vote.
00:23:14.780 So I get it.
00:23:15.760 I get it.
00:23:16.600 It's sometimes very difficult to land on a candidate that represents your values.
00:23:22.680 But I think it's I think it's worth it to give it a go.
00:23:26.900 So how do you if you're just going to go off of, you know, your faith and it's not just that you don't like it.
00:23:36.700 You think that they're both offensive to your faith.
00:23:40.960 OK, well, I know people who think I can't vote for him and I can't vote for her.
00:23:44.860 So how do you how do you decide in that in that case?
00:23:51.220 How what scriptures would you point us to that's that could help you decide?
00:23:56.960 Like what values are are we looking for?
00:24:00.780 So my recommendation would be to, number one, choose to vote, choose to vote.
00:24:10.320 Then my recommendation, number two, would be to make a list of the values.
00:24:14.920 I love you're using that word that represents your heart.
00:24:19.440 If you're in wait, then wait, then make a list of your values of abortion, immigration, economy.
00:24:32.700 I'm not trying to urge people in our conversation to vote a certain way.
00:24:38.180 What I'm saying is you make a list of the values that you sense the Lord has placed a burden on your heart for.
00:24:46.740 And all of ours won't wait.
00:24:49.300 The difference somebody may say, mine is 90 percent pro-life.
00:24:53.180 Wonderful.
00:24:54.000 God bless you.
00:24:54.940 I can relate to that.
00:24:56.080 I would say probably the same for me.
00:24:58.380 Others might say mine is 60 percent pro-life, 40 percent with street integration with a better tool.
00:25:05.240 Okay, so I'm just saying make a list of the values that matter to you.
00:25:09.700 Weight them and then say, I'm going to find the candidate that best reflects my values.
00:25:16.940 And as a pastor, I've never felt comfortable telling people how to vote, but I have felt comfortable in telling people,
00:25:25.640 weight your values when you study scripture as a follower of God, as a lover of Christ.
00:25:31.660 Just what matters to you, because the Holy Spirit lives in you, and he will help you.
00:25:37.420 He will guide you.
00:25:39.200 There was, I don't think there'll ever come a time that we have one candidate that reflects us 100 percent.
00:25:47.240 But certainly we can find one candidate that represents us at least 51 percent and go in that direction.
00:25:55.340 What if your value, one of your main values, is honesty and integrity?
00:25:59.880 Mm-hmm.
00:26:00.720 Yeah.
00:26:01.860 The same thing.
00:26:03.020 Same thing.
00:26:04.060 It's tough, brother.
00:26:05.740 It's tough.
00:26:06.960 And I'm very sympathetic.
00:26:08.600 I still don't think that excuses us from not voting, though.
00:26:14.300 Yeah, it doesn't.
00:26:14.880 I really don't.
00:26:15.460 I just don't think so.
00:26:16.980 It's a civic duty.
00:26:18.580 It's a privilege that people have died for.
00:26:22.560 And I don't, I'm not trying to be overdramatic, but if I need to be overdramatic, I will.
00:26:27.420 I mean, people have shed their blood for Max Locato to have this privilege.
00:26:31.620 Yeah.
00:26:31.760 So I can't back out of it.
00:26:33.500 I can't.
00:26:34.100 I need to step into it, and if it's basically leaning a certain direction, then lean in that
00:26:41.040 way.
00:26:41.360 If you've got to hold your nose when you step into the voting booth, hold your nose, but
00:26:46.480 just do it, you know.
00:26:49.500 I think that's our call.
00:26:51.380 So, Max, I've known you for a long time, and I just love you, and I know you as a very
00:26:57.400 positive guy.
00:26:59.280 And I'm not one that, I didn't expect you to write the book, What Happens Next, and that's
00:27:08.780 all about the signs of the end times and what all of that means.
00:27:15.900 And why did you decide to write that now?
00:27:19.980 Yeah, it's just what we're seeing in the world.
00:27:23.740 In today's headlines, only about Israel and Hezbollah, only affirms that something is
00:27:32.880 happening that's unique in our day and age.
00:27:36.040 Scripture speaks that in the end times, Israel will be surrounded by enemies, and there'll 0.88
00:27:41.760 be a great conflict for the land of Israel.
00:27:44.360 So that's just one thing that I see.
00:27:46.220 In the book, I'll list a variety of things, but even today's headlines are convincing me
00:27:52.480 that we're not just in the end times, but that we're in the end of end times.
00:27:57.440 I do not think we should be...
00:27:59.220 We're not in tribulation.
00:28:01.120 No, sir, we're not in tribulation.
00:28:03.020 Yeah, okay.
00:28:03.580 We're just headed that direction.
00:28:05.280 Yes, sir.
00:28:06.280 It's my belief that Christ will come for His church before the tribulation.
00:28:11.080 I know there are others who say we will endure that tribulation.
00:28:14.040 That's a good, robust conversation.
00:28:16.700 But I do believe that the Lord is sovereign, and I do believe we need to pay close attention
00:28:21.940 to these signs because they're unlike anything.
00:28:25.320 Ever since May 8th, 1948, when Israel became a nation, we entered a new chapter, a new chapter
00:28:32.680 in human history.
00:28:34.080 So we just got to pay attention.
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00:28:44.780 All right.
00:28:45.540 We have Representative Barry Loudermilk with us.
00:28:48.360 And he is going to talk to us a little bit about the newly released transcripts from January
00:28:55.860 6th and the transcripts that show what Donald Trump said in the days leading up to January
00:29:02.540 6th, urging the Pentagon to take extra security measures to keep January 6th safe, and they
00:29:09.660 didn't do it.
00:29:11.840 Representative from Georgia, Barry Loudermilk.
00:29:14.180 Barry, how are you?
00:29:15.900 Good, Glenn.
00:29:16.540 Appreciate you having me on again.
00:29:17.880 You bet.
00:29:18.620 So tell me what this is actually showing us, because it's not just, if I may read the
00:29:27.380 president, what he said, there's going to be a large amount of protesters here on the
00:29:31.880 6th.
00:29:32.340 Make sure that you have a sufficient National Guard or soldiers to make sure it's a safe
00:29:36.540 event.
00:29:37.320 I don't care if you use guard or soldiers, active duty soldiers, do what you have to do.
00:29:42.860 Just make sure it's safe.
00:29:45.320 That's what the president said leading up.
00:29:47.880 And that was a sworn testimony by General Milley to the Department of Defense Inspector
00:29:59.260 General.
00:30:00.360 And that conversation happened on January 3rd, three days leading up to January 6th.
00:30:06.620 And when did he testify to that?
00:30:08.380 He testified to that it would have been later in 2021 to the Department of Defense Inspector
00:30:17.320 General.
00:30:17.660 Now, what got us in this direction is we were investigating the two delays of National Guard
00:30:24.260 coming to the Capitol.
00:30:25.340 There was the first delay because U.S. Capitol Police Chief Sund, he sensed the same thing the
00:30:31.060 president did.
00:30:31.540 There's going to be a lot of people here.
00:30:33.380 We're in the middle of COVID.
00:30:34.880 A lot of the Capitol Police officers are being quarantined or they're sick.
00:30:39.120 He didn't have a full force.
00:30:40.400 He wanted some additional forces and requested D.C.
00:30:43.800 National Guard.
00:30:44.400 Now, that requires an official request for the D.C.
00:30:50.780 National Guard because the president can't just deploy military forces without a request.
00:30:54.880 It's a separation of powers issue.
00:30:56.700 Under current law, that had to come from the Capitol Police Board, which pretty much Pelosi
00:31:02.180 is going to be involved in that decision making.
00:31:04.140 But for whatever reason, his request was denied internally within Congress.
00:31:10.100 So he had made a request.
00:31:13.440 Even on to January 6th, he had made requests like when the outer perimeters were breached.
00:31:18.600 He wanted National Guard.
00:31:19.780 That was denied.
00:31:20.580 That was denied.
00:31:21.220 Finally, when shots were fired in the Capitol, the Democrats were like, well, we need help.
00:31:25.280 At 2.30, the formal request was made to the Pentagon.
00:31:31.320 Send the troops.
00:31:32.120 Now, we already know, as you just brought up, that President Trump had ordered the National
00:31:39.240 Guard to be ready to deployment.
00:31:40.940 That was the order.
00:31:42.320 That's what General Milley said.
00:31:44.100 And we know that they took that seriously because the National Guard on January 6th was
00:31:49.400 mustered at the armory less than two miles away from the Capitol with riot gear ready to
00:31:55.300 deploy.
00:31:55.900 They were already there.
00:31:56.920 So we know that somebody took that seriously.
00:31:59.480 So but from 2.30, when the request was made, there was about a three hour delay before the
00:32:08.600 order was given for the National Guard to deploy.
00:32:12.840 That's what we started looking into.
00:32:15.720 Now, the IG started looking into that as well.
00:32:19.420 The Department of Defense IG.
00:32:20.440 Their report was the National Guard wasn't ready.
00:32:24.380 That's why they didn't go.
00:32:25.420 It was the National Guard's fault.
00:32:26.400 Well, we started having senior officers and enlisted members from the National Guard coming
00:32:33.400 to us as whistleblowers saying that isn't at all what happened.
00:32:37.600 So we started launching an investigation into the DOD IG report.
00:32:41.720 And after this has been months and months of battle with the Department of Defense, quite
00:32:47.040 frankly, that's the 800 pound gorilla in this town.
00:32:49.740 I didn't think we were going to get anywhere.
00:32:51.740 But Providence, something broke loose.
00:32:54.540 And they provided us all the evidence that they had acquired the DOD IG in their investigation,
00:33:00.840 which was 44 transcribed interviews under oath.
00:33:04.160 When we got those, we realized this was a huge cover up because they were purposefully, the
00:33:12.360 National Guard was purposefully delayed by the Pentagon.
00:33:16.960 They did not want the National Guard here.
00:33:20.600 They didn't like the optics.
00:33:22.540 Some were, but that was most of, nobody liked the optics, but we didn't have senior officials
00:33:28.600 who were saying, my ultimate plan was to make sure the National Guard never got anywhere
00:33:34.040 close to the Capitol.
00:33:34.920 Jeez.
00:33:36.100 So tell me about Christopher Miller, because if I'm reading this right, he was the acting
00:33:40.500 secretary of defense.
00:33:42.640 He said the president commented that they were going to need 10,000 troops the following day.
00:33:47.720 I interpreted it as a bit of presidential banter or President Trump banter that you're
00:33:52.940 all familiar with.
00:33:53.940 And in no way, shape or form did I interpret that as an order or direction.
00:33:58.580 On January 6th, everyone was like, did you hear the president's speech?
00:34:01.600 I'm like, the guy speaks for 90 minutes.
00:34:03.140 It's like Castro or something.
00:34:04.600 No, I got work to do.
00:34:06.720 I was cognizant of the fears that the president would invoke the Insurrection Act to politicize
00:34:13.020 the military in an anti-democratic manner.
00:34:16.540 And just before the Electoral College certification, 10 former secretaries of defense signed an op-ed
00:34:22.360 piece published in the Washington Post, warning of the dangers of politicizing and using inappropriately
00:34:28.540 the military.
00:34:29.600 Nothing like that was going to occur on my watch.
00:34:33.580 That's correct.
00:34:34.600 And that was testimony that he gave to the Department of Defense IG under oath.
00:34:38.840 And what he's talking about is Liz Cheney kind of orchestrated in advance an op-ed by former
00:34:44.980 defense officials, basically setting a stage.
00:34:48.920 You know, they were afraid that Trump was going to come out and try to use the military to stop
00:34:54.840 the count.
00:34:55.840 There is nothing that any evidence that we have obtained or that we can find anywhere to
00:35:02.220 indicate that that was in his mindset.
00:35:04.980 But as I said earlier, someone took what Trump said as serious because the National Guard had
00:35:13.740 already been recalled.
00:35:15.660 They were mustered.
00:35:16.360 They were ready to go in the morning of January 6th.
00:35:19.980 In fact, when the general commanding the D.C.
00:35:25.160 National Guard finally was shown, that statement that Trump made to General Milley, he said, I
00:35:32.380 would have taken that as a direct order.
00:35:35.360 Politics and your political belief should never be a factor involved when it comes to safety
00:35:41.940 and security.
00:35:42.400 And I would also counter this.
00:35:43.940 If they were afraid that there was an act of insurrection that was going to take place
00:35:48.780 and they saw the violence going on at the Capitol that day, and that was an act of insurrection,
00:35:57.580 did they participate in it by holding back the very troops that could quell it?
00:36:03.180 And, you know, there's one thing about taking an order that is constitutional and one that
00:36:09.640 is not.
00:36:10.340 So, in other words, if he said, look, there's going to be a possible riot, we need 10,000
00:36:17.000 troops there, let's make sure the Capitol is safe. 0.66
00:36:20.720 Okay, well, I'm worried that he's going to use those troops for something else.
00:36:24.360 No, because the military has to execute what the president says unless it's an unlawful order.
00:36:35.080 Then it is their responsibility to not say, well, I was just following orders.
00:36:40.620 In our country, you don't have that excuse.
00:36:43.980 So, if it was an unconstitutional order, the Pentagon could have stopped it, correct?
00:36:50.060 Right.
00:36:50.600 Instead, they were just subordinate, right?
00:36:54.960 Is that the right word?
00:36:55.960 Not only, I think that's right.
00:36:58.080 It's subordination, but also premeditated.
00:37:02.460 Yes.
00:37:02.700 I think there's a case to be made that this was premeditated because on January the 5th,
00:37:08.060 the Secretary of the Army revised or sent a memo to General Walker, who is the commanding
00:37:16.900 general of the D.C.
00:37:17.580 National Guard and placed greater restrictions on him on when he can deploy and how.
00:37:23.780 I mean, they even restricted you can't be armed.
00:37:26.340 Okay, it's all kind of restrictions.
00:37:28.980 But basically what he said is you cannot deploy without my express permission that I have to
00:37:37.560 give you the order.
00:37:38.400 And that was unprecedented.
00:37:39.460 That was the day before.
00:37:40.420 So, basically, General Walker's in the situation where if President Trump called him directly
00:37:44.880 and said, get over there, and the Secretary of the Army didn't tell him, he would be in
00:37:49.980 subordination.
00:37:50.760 So, there were greater restrictions placed on the D.C.
00:37:54.040 National Guard, which to me shows some kind of premeditation.
00:37:57.980 Maybe it was fear that Trump was going to go rogue or whatever, but he's still the commander
00:38:02.620 in chief.
00:38:03.720 And the request was to get National Guard there to help keep the Capitol safe, not to participate
00:38:09.500 aid in anything, but to help keep it safe.
00:38:11.760 You can't convict somebody of future crimes.
00:38:16.660 You know, you can't say, well, this is what he intended.
00:38:18.940 No.
00:38:19.420 What he said, as the commander in chief, is keep the Capitol safe.
00:38:25.240 Now, if he would have said, you know what, go in and tell Congress they are going to...
00:38:29.820 No, Mr. President, that's unconstitutional.
00:38:32.980 I will not give that order.
00:38:34.580 However, and if he got on TV and said, you know, I'm telling them now to go in, the American 0.99
00:38:42.200 people would not have been with him.
00:38:44.580 They wouldn't have been with him.
00:38:45.900 Right.
00:38:46.160 No, not at all.
00:38:47.780 But there's so many angles to this here.
00:38:50.800 One is, how did the DOD IG, out of all this exact same evidence that we're looking at,
00:38:57.300 how did they come up with a report that it was the National Guard that was the problem?
00:39:01.260 Now, this, I'm still getting my head wrapped around this.
00:39:04.520 There is no way you could come up with that conclusion unless you're just trying to cover
00:39:08.680 for people who did things they shouldn't do.
00:39:11.740 Senior officers, senior civilians within the Department of Defense.
00:39:17.280 And so we're asking of the Department of Defense IG, how can this be?
00:39:22.340 And when are you going to correct this?
00:39:24.280 Of course, their response is, we don't see any need to correct it.
00:39:27.780 But we have now made all this public.
00:39:29.880 People can make this decision for themselves.
00:39:32.500 I've said from the beginning, I'm coming to this from an unbiased opinion.
00:39:36.280 We're going to just get the facts out there and let the facts speak for themselves.
00:39:39.900 And there's another angle to this that's a problem.
00:39:42.540 There are senior executive level folks in the DOD that testified one thing to the Department
00:39:52.480 of Defense IG, but testified differently to the select committee on January 6th.
00:39:57.240 They should all go to jail.
00:39:58.520 They're under oath.
00:39:59.080 And so this is something that we're starting to look at now, doing a side-by-side comparison.
00:40:05.000 Did their story change?
00:40:06.040 Did they have a better understanding?
00:40:08.000 Or was it that they were confident that the DOD, their testimonies to DOD IG would never
00:40:14.220 make it outside of the IG?
00:40:16.240 Unbelievable.
00:40:16.580 So it's just more layers of the story, the corruption, and the cover-ups that have happened regarding
00:40:24.640 January 6th.
00:40:25.320 Because as it comes down to it, the select committee on January 6th had a predetermined narrative.
00:40:30.340 They had, before they started it all, Nancy Pelosi had already set what their final report
00:40:35.320 was going to say.
00:40:36.320 Right.
00:40:36.480 And they were going to collect evidence to support it.
00:40:38.720 And as we've talked on this show before, any evidence that didn't support it or actually
00:40:43.720 told a different story, they suppressed, they hid, or they deleted.
00:40:48.180 And fortunately, we've been able to recover most of that.
00:40:51.360 Congressman Barry Loudermilk from the great state of Georgia, thank you so much for this.
00:40:55.760 I want to just reiterate one more thing.
00:40:58.460 This is the quote.
00:41:00.360 Anybody who wants to talk about January 6th, this is the quote.
00:41:03.820 And you can get it from the House Subcommittee on Oversight.
00:41:08.740 This is the quote from Donald Trump the day before.
00:41:11.780 Hey, look at this.
00:41:12.760 There's going to be a large amount of protesters here on the 6th.
00:41:15.860 Make sure that you have sufficient National Guard or soldiers to make sure it's a safe event.
00:41:20.340 I don't care if you use Guard, soldiers, active duty soldiers.
00:41:23.380 Do whatever you have to do.
00:41:26.080 Just make sure it's safe.
00:41:28.280 End quote.
00:41:29.260 Donald Trump, January 5th.
00:41:33.220 That should close the case on insurrection.
00:41:38.240 That's the truth.