The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Rep. Barry Loudermilk & Quentin Schultze ｜ 12⧸19⧸24

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00:03:22.800 Okay, Barry Loudermilk, the House GOP head of the committee looking into January 6th,

00:03:33.800 says Liz Cheney should be investigated for witness tampering.

00:03:37.620 That's what he came out with yesterday.

00:03:39.580 They've been doing an investigation, but there's a lot more to it.

00:03:42.200 Barry, welcome to the program.

00:03:45.000 Glenn, thanks for having me on.

00:03:46.560 And thank you for covering this.

00:03:48.560 So many media outlets won't even touch anything with January 6th, but you've been very consistent with it.

00:03:54.460 I have to tell you, I was at my – I was at – I don't want to get really specific because it might hurt them.

00:04:00.520 I was at a place of business, somebody I know who's completely rational, big business person.

00:04:07.040 They happened to be in Washington that day.

00:04:09.880 They were outside of the Capitol.

00:04:12.820 They did nothing, and they were just charged with six felonies.

00:04:20.480 And I said, what's on the videotape?

00:04:23.180 And they said, we did nothing.

00:04:25.500 We did nothing.

00:04:26.480 We happened to be there, but we didn't do anything, and it's gone crazy, Barry.

00:04:33.460 It has absolutely gone crazy.

00:04:36.600 So, you know, when you look into these things, what do you think the biggest discovery

00:04:43.280 or the most shocking discovery is that you guys found and verified?

00:04:48.300 Well, besides what we're going to talk about with Liz Cheney, I think it's the tremendous failures in several areas of our government

00:05:02.520 and then the subsequent cover-up to try to cover up their failure.

00:05:06.360 And people just closing their eyes and their minds and allowing Donald Trump to take the blame from the January 6th committee for everything

00:05:17.620 when it was a massive failure on several fronts.

00:05:20.720 And then you have the aggressiveness of the FBI, which we've made this point in the report,

00:05:27.240 is the FBI will go to great lengths using video footage to find a grandma who goes into the Capitol, prays, and then leaves,

00:05:37.880 or someone like the person you were talking about who just happened to be out there, and charge them with crimes.

00:05:43.840 But yet they have no idea who placed the pipe bombs.

00:05:47.220 That's not true.

00:05:48.060 And part of that is because they pulled resources away from that investigation,

00:05:51.680 and then as we released in this report, they lied about the evidence that they had or supposedly had regarding the pipe bomber.

00:06:01.900 They told us that, well, the identity of the pipe bomber is within data that we received from a major cell phone carrier that was corrupt,

00:06:10.300 and then we couldn't get it because they had it.

00:06:12.380 Was that not true?

00:06:13.520 That turned out to be a lie.

00:06:14.620 No, it is not true.

00:06:15.480 Oh, my gosh.

00:06:16.400 We've been investigating that.

00:06:19.840 Obviously, it's kind of easy to find who the perpetrators are now because they all retired recently once we started this investigation.

00:06:26.960 You've seen a lot of retirement.

00:06:28.680 This was the field office director here in Washington, D.C., told the select committee on January 6th,

00:06:35.360 well, we were investigating, and we subpoenaed all the major carriers, but one carrier, the data they provided us was corrupted,

00:06:44.160 and that's the data that the pipe bomber would be in.

00:06:49.340 So we took that.

00:06:50.880 We went to the three major carriers, asked them all, and we kind of knew which one it was, but didn't want to reveal it because we wanted to see what we could find out.

00:06:59.380 All three of them said, yes, we were subpoenaed by the FBI.

00:07:04.580 We did provide data.

00:07:06.900 All three of them said the FBI never came back to us and asked for the data again, telling us it was corrupted.

00:07:12.480 And then the last question I asked was, do you still have the data?

00:07:15.840 And all of them said, yes, we keep data for every major event.

00:07:19.700 And, in fact, the one carrier said, we still have all the data from the Oklahoma City bombing.

00:07:23.940 Oh, my gosh.

00:07:24.620 So that agent absolutely lied because he said the data was corrupted, and we couldn't get it because it was no longer available.

00:07:32.820 This is the same guy, if I'm not mistaken, that was investigating the kidnapping of the governor of Michigan and then was transferred to the head of special investigations?

00:07:47.520 I think you're right.

00:07:48.880 I can't verify that, but I think you may be right.

00:07:51.580 But what gets me is, okay, they put very little resources into finding who placed the pipe bombs, but yet they will go to all lengths to find anyone who is around the Capitol.

00:08:03.500 That is not an equal application of the law.

00:08:06.340 You know, it's also interesting.

00:08:07.860 They didn't even investigating, according to your report, they did no investigation into who constructed the gallows.

00:08:15.680 Tell me about that.

00:08:16.620 So that was something that a lot of people didn't pay attention to, except for the Democrats, because the Democrats, if you go back and you think about this, this campaign for the Democrats was going to be run on January 6th.

00:08:28.780 That was what they had.

00:08:30.140 They totally messed the economy up.

00:08:31.820 They totally blew our standing nationally.

00:08:35.180 We became, you know, we were a big national security risk.

00:08:39.060 Basically, this administration was a complete failure. 0.96

00:08:41.340 The only thing they could run on was January 6th and that Donald Trump is a traitor to our country.

00:08:47.220 We systematically dismantled that.

00:08:49.860 But the one thing that they had was the gallows, and they would put the gallows up in their early campaign ads.

00:08:56.400 Well, my question about the gallows was always who put it up.

00:09:00.040 They claim it was people who put it there to hang Mike Pence because he wasn't going to object to the certification of votes.

00:09:10.700 But the thing is, Trump didn't even know what Pence was going to do until 1 o'clock in the afternoon, and the gallows was put up at 6 o'clock in the morning.

00:09:21.820 So how could they have directed the gallows to hang Mike Pence when nobody knew what he was going to do?

00:09:27.240 Right.

00:09:27.940 So we started looking into, because my initial question was, how was that gallows allowed to stay up on Capitol property all day long?

00:09:37.340 And even into the evening?

00:09:39.240 You know, you can't put up a little stand on the Capitol property without a permit.

00:09:44.060 It'd be immediately taken down.

00:09:45.580 How would the Capitol Police allow that to stay up, or the Park Police, whoever, a gallows, how was it allowed to stay up all day?

00:09:52.620 So as we started investigating it, then we said, let's look and see how much investigation the FBI did into it.

00:09:59.780 So we looked at our videos, the Capitol surveillance videos, and we could see where the people carrying the gallows came from.

00:10:08.120 They had a hand truck full of lumber pulling it up.

00:10:11.700 I think it was up Pennsylvania or Constitution Avenue.

00:10:14.660 So I put a team on this, and they started looking and said, all right, let's go to every government building along the street and ask them two questions.

00:10:24.040 One, do they have surveillance cameras out front, which they do?

00:10:29.040 Do they still have the video from it, which none of them did because it had been overwritten?

00:10:33.580 And the third question was, did the FBI ever ask you for any of this video?

00:10:37.840 And the answer for every one of them was no.

00:10:41.180 Jeez.

00:10:41.740 Shocking.

00:10:42.580 The FBI spent no time looking into who erected the gallows.

00:10:46.900 Wow.

00:10:47.300 That's absolutely shocking.

00:10:48.220 And we didn't have a clear picture of one of them.

00:10:50.500 So, yeah, there was a total – there was a lot of effort put into convictions, but it was only on one side.

00:10:59.280 It was on one side.

00:10:59.840 Congressman Loudermilk, it's Liz Wheeler.

00:11:01.700 I'm sitting in today for Stu here at Blaze HQ in Dallas.

00:11:05.840 Question for you.

00:11:06.820 According to your report, you said that your committee is going to release an additional investigative report into the identity of the pipe bombers.

00:11:15.740 Do you know, not just that Liz Cheney and her January 6th committee lied about the phone records and the phone carrier corrupting the data,

00:11:24.740 but do you know the identity of the pipe bombers?

00:11:27.420 We don't know the identity, but this is being done in coordination with the Judiciary Committee chair by Jim Jordan.

00:11:35.460 And so we've done our part of the report.

00:11:37.920 They're working on their part.

00:11:40.080 I expect it to be released sometime next week.

00:11:42.500 I know it's a bad week for releasing a report with Christmas coming, but we want to make sure that we get it right.

00:11:49.240 And so we're compiling all the information they have and we have.

00:11:52.900 And we're not going to identify who it is because we don't know exactly, but we know a lot more than the FBI did of potentially where they came from.

00:12:01.680 I mean, we were able to track the vehicle that they were in that the FBI never went and tried to look for.

00:12:09.840 Congressman, let me ask you this.

00:12:12.220 Let's let's go back to Liz Cheney here because you you say she should be investigated and possibly tried. 0.97

00:12:20.800 I hope if these things are true, I hope every damn one of these people, no matter which side they're on, are put in jail.

00:12:32.140 Is it have you found enough to have a reasonable grand jury say, yeah, crimes were committed here and this needs to be a trial? 0.94

00:12:45.020 And can you get it out of Washington, D.C., which will never be a fair trial?

00:12:50.800 Well, as you know, Glenn, that is outside the realm of the legislative branch.

00:12:56.840 And I've said all along on accountability, people should be held accountable, but it will never happen under the current Department of Justice.

00:13:03.300 We have a new Department of Justice coming in.

00:13:06.520 Yes.

00:13:06.940 So we are this is one of the reasons we're making this referral.

00:13:11.580 Well, let me just real quickly lay the basis of why I'm saying Liz Cheney should be investigated, because Cassidy Hutchinson, the star witness, came in and testified before the select committee twice under oath. 0.93

00:13:25.460 The third time she started changing her first two testimonies.

00:13:29.620 And then the fourth time she totally came out with all kind of crazy stories.

00:13:33.800 Right. 0.96

00:13:34.160 This is about Trump attacking Secret Service officers, right, throwing food and chanting that Mike Pence should be hung.

00:13:41.460 OK, she significantly changed her testimony to the point where she would have committed perjury either before or after. 0.97

00:13:48.940 What changed?

00:13:50.780 What changed?

00:13:51.420 It was between her first two and the next two that she started communicating directly with Liz Cheney.

00:13:57.980 This is and Liz even said this is unethical.

00:14:01.040 So let's just use Liz Cheney's own standards. 1.00

00:14:05.480 All right.

00:14:05.780 In July of twenty twenty two, Liz Cheney and we have the video of her doing this in a committee, referred Donald Trump to the Department of Justice to be investigated for witness tampering because he said Trump tried to contact a witness.

00:14:22.960 He wasn't successful.

00:14:24.600 He only tried to contact a witness.

00:14:26.520 So they assumed it was witness tampering and they referred him to the Department of Justice.

00:14:31.900 Now, let's compare what.

00:14:34.720 Her standards to what she did.

00:14:37.180 Cheney did communicate with a witness, didn't just try, did and even acknowledge that it was at least unethical to do so.

00:14:44.280 Oh, my God.

00:14:45.100 Who, after their communication, did change their testimony.

00:14:49.820 And according to Cassidy Hutchinson, Cheney did recommend her to fire her attorney and that Liz Cheney did help her find a new one. 0.80

00:14:58.880 And then Liz Cheney did try to have Stefan Pacantino, who was her first attorney, tried to get him disbarred and basically tried to ruin his life. 1.00

00:15:07.340 Oh, now, just use Cheney's standards of Trump tried to contact a witness.

00:15:13.720 He should be investigated versus what she actually did.

00:15:17.520 And we have it documented that she did these things.

00:15:20.560 This is why we're recommending the Department of Justice investigate her for witness tampering. 1.00

00:15:26.020 It's not tit for tat.

00:15:27.340 I'm just saying if she laid the standard that just trying to make a phone call is witness tampering, then this really should be investigated.

00:15:35.160 If honestly, I said this during the Trump impeachment hearings when they filed those, I said to my staff, find out as much as we can about the truth.

00:15:46.660 The same thing with COVID.

00:15:48.280 I didn't know if anybody was good or bad on that, you know, six or eight months into it.

00:15:54.440 We did an honest investigation and I said to my staff, let the chips fall where they may just seek the truth.

00:16:02.280 And honestly, if these people put this country through this, they should go to jail either side.

00:16:10.360 If you were at January 6th and you actually were breaking the windows and climbing through the windows, you know, and and, you know, hitting police officers, et cetera.

00:16:21.080 But yeah, probably you should go to jail.

00:16:24.480 You should be have a fair trial, but you should go to jail, but not the innocent.

00:16:29.220 And anyone who is trying to make the innocent look guilty or make the guilty look innocent should also go to jail.

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00:18:19.160 Now back to the podcast.

00:18:21.160 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:18:23.200 And we really want to thank you for listening.

00:18:28.020 I am, uh, so excited for this.

00:18:31.120 Uh, Quentin Schultz is, uh, with us.

00:18:33.440 He's Calvin university professor of communications.

00:18:35.980 I normally don't have a communication professor on because they're normally, well, they don't know what they're talking about when it comes to modern communication.

00:18:47.720 But this guy we're having on, he is, uh, not only emeritus professor of communications, he's teached, he taught storylines and storytelling with Gene Shepard, who is probably the greatest storyteller ever on radio.

00:19:05.160 Welcome, Quentin.

00:19:05.940 How are you?

00:19:06.380 Wow, thanks so much, Glenn.

00:19:08.100 You know, that, that was the thing.

00:19:09.800 I was a new professor of communication and generally professor with a PhD means piled higher and deeper.

00:19:16.540 And, but in this case, I thought, you know, storytelling is the most potent form of human expression.

00:19:24.420 No question about it.

00:19:25.480 And I thought, uh, who out there is the best storyteller that I could learn from firsthand, because that's the way you really learn.

00:19:32.060 I looked at the textbooks and I'll forget it.

00:19:34.360 And I had known of Gene Shepard.

00:19:36.300 We shared a hobby called ham radio.

00:19:38.260 I listened to him on WR radio for years.

00:19:40.920 And so I looked up his call letters and his home address through the FCC directory.

00:19:48.180 And I said, uh, dear Mr. Shepard, I'm a wet behind the ears communication professor.

00:19:54.340 And I want to learn storytelling.

00:19:55.780 Would you teach me?

00:19:57.320 And lo and behold, he wrote back.

00:19:59.640 He couldn't believe that a professor was actually going to him.

00:20:02.400 You know, most professors are not humble enough to ask other people.

00:20:05.620 Right.

00:20:05.860 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:20:06.660 Yeah.

00:20:07.080 So he said, yeah, let's do it.

00:20:08.420 So we began corresponding and all.

00:20:10.460 And then I, uh, I invited him to teach with me.

00:20:14.300 And as far as I know, except for the director of a Christmas story, Bob Clark, I'm the only person still alive who knew what Gene Shepard was doing, how he told stories and what he was doing in the movie, a Christmas story.

00:20:28.400 He wrote the script for it.

00:20:30.180 And let me just tell you, Glenn, what he taught me absolutely blew my mind.

00:20:34.380 It revolutionized my teaching.

00:20:36.440 It revolutionized my relationships with people to be able to tell stories really well.

00:20:41.860 And, uh, it was, it was stunning.

00:20:43.680 And the number one thing I learned from him is that every one of his stories is a parable, a parable.

00:20:50.080 In other words, it works on two levels.

00:20:52.020 There's the entertainment level.

00:20:53.400 And you say, that's a funny story.

00:20:55.160 Look at that guy with his leg lamp there.

00:20:57.260 Oh, oh, oh, you know, but then I'm in me, I'm talking to Gene and I said, Gene, what about that leg lamp thing, man?

00:21:04.340 What about it?

00:21:05.320 I just don't quite get that one.

00:21:07.160 It's a parable.

00:21:08.160 Come on.

00:21:08.700 What are you talking about, man?

00:21:09.900 He says, Quinn, that leg lamp is a trophy wife. 1.00

00:21:15.660 I said, what?

00:21:17.240 He said, yeah, it's a trophy wife. 1.00

00:21:18.980 The old man falls in love with, becomes obsessed with that leg lamp that he pulls out of the carton that arrives.

00:21:27.620 And, uh, right away he's smitten by it.

00:21:30.360 And he's in love.

00:21:31.980 And, and, and he said, he wants to go put it in the front window.

00:21:35.360 For what reason?

00:21:36.240 Wow.

00:21:36.860 Turn on the neighborhood.

00:21:38.240 And, uh, so Gene explained to me that in his worldview, guys are incurably romantic toward women or secondarily other things.

00:21:51.340 Could be cars, could be rifles, could be other technology.

00:21:55.460 And, uh, they fall in love and they get so smitten by these other things that it interferes with their relationships.

00:22:03.020 So mom knew when she saw what was going on with the old man and that leg lamp, that she was going to have to do something.

00:22:10.160 She was going to have to get this Glenn and the affair by breaking the lamp, which she did.

00:22:17.900 So the whole movie, A Christmas Story, is filled with these parables.

00:22:22.620 And that one is number two in my book of 20 parables, which is called Curtail Your Obsessions.

00:22:28.960 And it applies especially to men.

00:22:31.940 Unbelievable.

00:22:32.700 You're so good, Professor.

00:22:34.660 This is Liz Wheeler.

00:22:35.520 I'm sitting in for Stu today.

00:22:37.620 When we were talking about having you on right before the program, I was like, oh, he, he styles himself as a storyteller.

00:22:43.220 Please, I'm waiting to be impressed.

00:22:44.620 I was, um, engrossed in your story.

00:22:46.420 Tell me, so that's number two on the list.

00:22:48.640 What's number one?

00:22:49.500 I, I think I speak for a lot of people when I say I love when there's hidden messages and parables and Easter eggs and stories.

00:22:55.880 What are some other ones?

00:22:57.460 Yeah, one of my favorites is what I call tackle your technology.

00:23:03.960 Now, Gene Shepard believed that human beings, particularly men, create technologies, but they can never fully control what they create.

00:23:13.020 So the technologies always get out of hand and things happen that were unexpected and they break down.

00:23:18.760 And, you know, he and I shared this hobby, Ham Radio, so we would talk about our, our rigs, as we call them, going bad.

00:23:25.000 But he's got this wonderful thing in the movie with the furnace downstairs.

00:23:30.420 So the old man is sitting there, you know, enjoying at the kitchen table where the family really happens.

00:23:36.920 Their relationships happen at that table.

00:23:39.020 And he's listening, listening, listening.

00:23:41.560 All of a sudden, he hears clink, clink, clink.

00:23:44.800 And he yells, clinker!

00:23:46.080 And he takes off, puts his gloves on down the stairs to try to fix that furnace.

00:23:52.740 Now, clinkers were pieces of coal that would not burn fully.

00:23:56.480 And they were still hard.

00:23:57.440 And they would fall to the bottom of the furnace and go clink, clink, clink.

00:24:00.780 And they were really frustrating.

00:24:02.800 And so he periodically has to go down there to try to fix the furnace.

00:24:08.420 Well, and I'm talking to Gene Shepard, the screenwriter of A Christmas Story, about this.

00:24:12.840 He says to me, Quinn, that's my nickname, Quinn, he says, you know that the old man runs down the stairs because he's headed toward hell.

00:24:22.220 I said, what?

00:24:23.520 He said, yeah, he's going down to the seventh level of Dante's Inferno, where with all the soot and all the heat and smoke and everything else,

00:24:33.420 he's going to stare face to face with that demon of a furnace.

00:24:38.260 And he is not going to win the battle.

00:24:40.420 So he said to me, that's the way all technologies are.

00:24:44.300 Sooner or later, we find out they don't work as well as we thought.

00:24:47.500 We get into trouble.

00:24:49.040 And the more I thought about that, I thought, man, he's brilliant.

00:24:52.960 Another part of that in the movie is the car.

00:24:56.140 The old man has this 1937 Olds touring sedan.

00:25:00.380 Right. 0.96

00:25:00.700 And that sucker would freeze up at the equator in the middle of the summer, he says. 0.75

00:25:06.640 So he's always running outside in the middle of winter to pour hot water on it to try to get it going. 0.72

00:25:12.700 And, of course, he has problems with plugging in the Christmas tree and plugging in the leg lamp.

00:25:18.040 He's blowing fuses all the time, although he could replace those fuses faster than a jackrabbit on a date.

00:25:23.720 That's another story.

00:25:25.540 And so my favorite life lesson from the movie A Christmas Story really is it comes to the fore at the end.

00:25:38.980 And Bob Clark was such a great director.

00:25:41.280 And so there are two scenes at the end, these scenes of reconciliation and peace.

00:25:47.360 One is where the old man and mom are together at the end of the day on Christmas.

00:25:54.080 Mom turns the light off, and the two of them sit down together.

00:25:58.100 And they're touching each other.

00:26:00.520 They're reconciling.

00:26:01.760 I mean, they've been battling over the leg lamp, really, the affair that's going on there.

00:26:06.080 And so they're reconciling.

00:26:07.440 And they're looking out through the window, which is the same window that the leg lamp was in.

00:26:13.160 And you see the snow falling down.

00:26:15.340 By the way, that wasn't really snow.

00:26:16.960 Those were potato flakes being thrown from the roof because there was no snow.

00:26:22.640 But what's interesting about this also is that Gene pulled on a lot of biblical themes.

00:26:28.800 And the leg lamp gets placed among the plants because Gene said to me that those plants are mom's garden of Eden,

00:26:36.600 that she waters and likes to keep going and keep them green and vibrant.

00:26:40.760 So when the old man takes this tawdry, ugly, humanly concocted leg lamp and puts it right in the middle of the Garden of Eden,

00:26:49.100 and of course the leg lamp itself represents sin in a way because it's an affair obsession he has,

00:26:54.860 she knows he has to break it.

00:26:56.120 So when they're on the sofa together looking out the window, they're looking out over those plants right outside without the leg lamp there.

00:27:04.440 And you can give thanks that they have reconciled.

00:27:08.420 It's just so wonderful.

00:27:10.380 Wow.

00:27:11.740 Anything behind the shoot your eye out?

00:27:14.420 Oh, yeah.

00:27:14.920 In fact, I titled my book You'll Shoot Your Eye Out because it's the most searched term related to the movie A Christmas Story.

00:27:24.140 Of course, Ralphie's trying to get the rifle.

00:27:27.020 He goes to his mom.

00:27:28.040 That's not going to work.

00:27:28.840 He goes to Ms. Shields' teacher, and she writes on his theme.

00:27:32.380 But, yes, you'll shoot your eye out.

00:27:33.960 Then he goes to Santa and gets into trouble with Santa at the top of the mountain.

00:27:38.760 And, by the way, that mountain that he climbs up to to pitch Santa, his last resort, remember?

00:27:46.320 It's his last resort.

00:27:47.300 Yeah, yeah, yeah.

00:27:48.760 That mountain, Gene said to me, is like going up to petition God.

00:27:54.100 Or on Christmas, you get a lot of kids, and they believe that they can somehow petition Santa and get what they want.

00:28:01.360 And Ralphie doesn't really believe it, but he's going to give it a try.

00:28:04.680 And so he's going to go up there, and then, of course, he gets kind of pushed with Santa's black boot down the slide,

00:28:14.860 which they got from a swimming pool company.

00:28:19.440 And Santa says, you'll shoot your eye out, kid.

00:28:23.480 So Gene said to me repeatedly that if there's one big lesson in life to really be careful about,

00:28:30.120 it's our lack of humility as human beings.

00:28:33.840 We do things that cause trouble for ourselves, like we would say, you know, you put in your mouth.

00:28:41.480 And so he used that term, you'll shoot your eye out, as a way of getting at this.

00:28:46.680 We have to be more humble and be careful and watch out for what we do in life.

00:28:51.840 So it really, that runs throughout the movie in many ways.

00:28:55.840 Man, you should do commentary on the movie.

00:29:00.860 I'd love to watch the movie with you doing commentary.

00:29:03.520 Maybe you could just come to my house for Christmas as we watch it, because it's unbelievable.

00:29:07.960 Yeah, what's interesting is that I had all these notes and all from teaching with Gene.

00:29:11.840 He died in 99, and I thought maybe someday I'd write a book about storytelling in him.

00:29:17.300 And the movie, when it came out in 83, did not really do well.

00:29:23.760 And so I thought, well, why write a book if the movie is not going to do well?

00:29:27.540 And every year it sells more and more copies, and more people see it, 40 to 50 million in the U.S. alone see it every year.

00:29:35.320 And so finally my wife said to me last year, stop just talking about it and entertaining people at dinner.

00:29:41.560 You've got to write the book.

00:29:42.740 So that's what I did, Glenn.

00:29:44.480 Wow, boy, she must be tired of this story, because I know my wife's tired of all my stories. 1.00

00:29:48.560 Oh, yeah.

00:29:50.240 The name of the book is You'll Shoot Your Eye Out. 0.91

00:29:55.840 You'll Shoot Your Eye Out.

00:29:56.960 It's not just the parables behind it.

00:29:59.860 It's mainly that.

00:30:00.620 But also he goes into storytelling.

00:30:02.360 And as you can tell, he's a very good storyteller, but he learned from, I think, the best, Gene Shepard.

00:30:10.300 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Podcast.

00:30:12.960 Hear more of this interview and others with the full show podcast, available wherever you get podcasts.

00:30:18.980 Let me let me go back to Donald Trump and really you.

00:30:25.700 You, X, you, talk radio, and Donald Trump and J.D. Vance are the ones that killed this horrible bill in Congress yesterday.

00:30:36.460 And I haven't heard an official it's dead, but everybody that I've talked to say, oh, it's not coming back.

00:30:44.000 Um, and Donald Trump said, I want a clean continuing resolution.

00:30:48.640 I don't want any, there's no ornaments, ornaments on this tree, none past this and just keep the government functioning.

00:30:57.760 Nothing else.

00:30:58.800 That's exactly what they should have done the first, first time.

00:31:01.340 Um, there is a great article, uh, at glenbeck.com, the deep state's new plan to backstab Donald Trump.

00:31:08.660 If you want to understand what we're going to be facing next year, because there's, there's this attitude right now.

00:31:15.180 And I don't know if you've sensed this Liz Wheeler.

00:31:17.340 Um, but there is this attitude that, oh, Trump selected.

00:31:22.580 And that's exactly what we did in 2016.

00:31:26.180 And you saw what we got four years later.

00:31:29.600 Now we brought this change and we're here and people are thinking it's fixed.

00:31:36.360 I, I talked to, um, uh, Lear Capital, uh, and some of the other sponsors that specifically deal in, um, you know, emergency, you know, and, and things like, Hey, back up your money.

00:31:51.260 And they said on election day, they can see phone calls, phone calls, phone calls, election, nothing.

00:31:59.520 And that's what happened in 2016.

00:32:02.220 And I have to tell you, please don't do this again.

00:32:07.860 There, there is so much to clear and we're only at the beginning.

00:32:13.360 That wasn't the end.

00:32:14.660 It feels peaceful now, but believe me, political war is going to be turned up to 11.

00:32:24.920 So please don't rest on your laurels and think everything is okay.

00:32:30.120 It's good.

00:32:31.000 We can be positive, but let's not deceive ourselves.

00:32:34.880 You agree with that, Liz?

00:32:35.960 I think we are very different than we were four years ago, Trump or eight years ago.

00:32:43.220 I should say Trump is very different in the sense that he understands how the deep state operates.

00:32:48.740 You can see this in the way that he speaks.

00:32:50.860 You can see this in the policies that he's presenting.

00:32:52.740 You can see this in who he's surrounding himself with, uh, advisors and cabinet nominations.

00:32:57.820 But we are very different too, because complacency can be our worst enemy.

00:33:03.700 It certainly, I would argue, has been in the last 50, 60 years.

00:33:06.760 This is not a recent thing, but yesterday should prove that we know what we're doing this time

00:33:12.040 differently than the last time too.

00:33:13.760 We understand that we have a role, not just in casting our ballots, not just in the lead

00:33:18.280 up to an election, making an argument for a candidate, but being an intricate part of

00:33:22.800 every minute detail of a transition and administration.

00:33:26.360 And I've never seen this.

00:33:28.260 Maybe you have seen this.

00:33:29.120 I have never seen this before to this level in my entire political life.

00:33:34.060 And I don't think people are planning on stopping that.

00:33:36.560 Yesterday was an example of us doing it better.

00:33:40.180 I saw it in 1980 because we were in a similar situation, but not as bad as we are now, uh,

00:33:47.120 with Jimmy Carter.

00:33:48.060 Uh, and so I saw it back then and it lasted for a while.

00:33:52.800 It lasted in probably until, oh, maybe 90.

00:33:56.820 It lasted a decade.

00:33:57.780 If we can get a decade out of this, that would be great.

00:34:00.320 We need 12 years to be able to really make an impact.

00:34:05.000 And we need 12 years of the Republicans in the house and the Senate.

00:34:10.280 If you don't get that, it's going to be a lot harder to do this.

00:34:14.340 We have to reverse everything.

00:34:16.400 And you know, there's two stories, um, in the, um, Washington examiner, both of which

00:34:22.980 I enjoyed and think are something you should read.

00:34:25.540 That's why we put them in our morning newsletter at glenbeck.com, um, which is free by the way,

00:34:29.960 sign up for it.

00:34:30.520 Um, the Washington examiner has two stories in, and I agree with both, but I, I, I want

00:34:37.700 to, I want to caveat on these first.

00:34:40.380 The first story is, is really great.

00:34:42.400 It's about wiping the smile off of Barack Obama's face.

00:34:45.120 Uh, and it ends in 2016.

00:34:46.820 The then president Barack Obama mocked in a tweet in which Trump called him perhaps the

00:34:51.140 worst president in the history of the United States in 2016.

00:34:54.800 Um, uh, uh, that's what president Trump said.

00:34:58.400 Obama said, at least I will go down as a president and then had the little mic drop, you know?

00:35:05.100 Uh, okay.

00:35:06.400 All right.

00:35:06.920 Well, um, he did too.

00:35:09.340 In fact, he's going down as one of the only presidents who have ever lost a second term and

00:35:15.420 then won it because you, cause let's, let's be honest, Barack, this is your administration.

00:35:22.580 This was you.

00:35:23.740 This wasn't Joe Biden.

00:35:24.960 This was you and your people and all the people you trust to transform the United States of

00:35:30.840 America.

00:35:31.580 And finally you have been defeated.

00:35:35.740 Uh, so I, you know, gosh, I, I hate to point it out, but you are going to start losing, uh,

00:35:44.480 your image and you already have.

00:35:46.400 People are starting to go, wait a minute.

00:35:47.500 I don't think Barack Obama was who I thought he was.

00:35:50.160 Then there's another story in, uh, Washington examiner that you need to read a conservative

00:35:55.560 comeback in the culture war.

00:35:56.960 And it is so satisfying.

00:35:58.720 And I think so true.

00:36:01.220 It says over the, um, proceeding 21 months, this, this is, uh, talking about how, you know,

00:36:08.420 the culture had completely changed and joy Reed came out on MSNBC and she said, you know, the

00:36:16.720 John Wayne era is over.

00:36:18.920 Um, the, um, the, the right literally can't win.

00:36:23.340 Cultural progression is relentless.

00:36:25.200 Once people get a taste of modernity, they almost never go back willingly.

00:36:30.440 Um, okay.

00:36:32.040 So she, she had a right to be hubris at that point.

00:36:35.640 Um, because they were wiping the floor with us.

00:36:40.120 Honestly, in October gang, let's all remember, we thought the country could be over.

00:36:47.780 We didn't know who our neighbors even were.

00:36:50.680 And we said to each other at that time, if this country votes for more of this, then they

00:36:58.140 don't understand Liberty and the constitution.

00:37:00.760 They don't want it anymore.

00:37:02.460 Well, they didn't.

00:37:04.200 And I think part of that is because God came to the rescue and did the things that we couldn't

00:37:10.980 do, but we did do the things that we could do.

00:37:14.680 And that is get out and vote.

00:37:16.940 But he held the, quite honestly, the judgment back from us so we could go out and vote.

00:37:24.540 Now God has done his part.

00:37:27.100 We know he's not neutral in this.

00:37:29.700 He's done his part by saving Donald Trump from assassination.

00:37:33.960 We went out and vote.

00:37:35.360 Now God saying, okay, so what are you going to do with it?

00:37:38.680 And if we piss it away and think that Donald Trump, God bless him.

00:37:43.560 I think he's amazing.

00:37:45.100 He is not the same man.

00:37:47.600 He's going, he has the possibility.

00:37:49.980 And I, I, I used to hate when people said this about anybody, or he could go down as

00:37:55.440 another Abraham Lincoln.

00:37:57.200 I'm telling you, he could go down as another Abraham Lincoln, but only if we do our part.

00:38:05.040 And the thing about that article in, uh, the examiner is, uh, it, please let's, let's, let's not get, uh, cocky.

00:38:17.200 Come on, Luke.

00:38:18.640 Don't get cocky kid.

00:38:20.580 Don't do it.

00:38:21.500 Leads to bad things.

00:38:22.920 Liz.

00:38:23.380 It reminds me, I feel like we're in one of those Dr.

00:38:27.840 Franklin moments where he says, madam, a Republic, if you can keep it.

00:38:32.620 Yes.

00:38:32.820 It's this moment where we have this great celebration because something tremendous and

00:38:37.760 extraordinary just happened.

00:38:39.640 We have just freed ourselves from the oppressors and we should take a moment and say, wow, this,

00:38:46.560 we should, we should bask in the enormity of that moment.

00:38:49.000 But also we should understand that like a marriage, not being the end of a courtship,

00:38:55.800 it is the beginning of an adventure.

00:38:57.320 That is where we are in this cultural battle to the, the, the work and the adventure are

00:39:02.720 now beginning.

00:39:04.360 Remember, uh, it was common sense that brought us to the declaration of independence, literally

00:39:10.600 and figuratively, uh, Thomas Paine brings us to the declaration of independence and everybody

00:39:16.360 was a sunshine Patriot.

00:39:17.980 Everybody was on board.

00:39:19.200 They were so excited by Christmas after that happened in July of the same year.

00:39:27.980 By Christmas, the whole thing seemed to be over.

00:39:31.680 Everybody had lost hope.

00:39:33.240 And he wrote the American crisis, sunshine Patriots. 0.75

00:39:37.560 Yeah.

00:39:37.720 You're of no use.

00:39:38.780 Where are the winter soldiers?

00:39:40.320 So we're right now at that first part, common sense.

00:39:44.760 We did it.

00:39:45.400 Yeah.

00:39:45.720 Common sense wins, but it's going to get tough and we're going to need the winter soldiers.

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00:40:24.520 See you then, Phil.

00:40:24.900 Bye-bye.

00:40:27.640 Bye-bye.

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00:40:37.180 Bye-bye.

00:40:47.240 Bye-bye.

00:40:48.180 Bye-bye.

00:40:51.220 Bye-bye.

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