On today's show, Glenn Beck is joined by Rep. Barry Lodermilk (R-GA) to talk about what should happen against former Vice President Liz Cheney. Also, a Christmas Story writer talks about the story behind the movie, A Christmas Story.
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00:04:36.600So, you know, when you look into these things, what do you think the biggest discovery
00:04:43.280or the most shocking discovery is that you guys found and verified?
00:04:48.300Well, besides what we're going to talk about with Liz Cheney, I think it's the tremendous failures in several areas of our government
00:05:02.520and then the subsequent cover-up to try to cover up their failure.
00:05:06.360And people just closing their eyes and their minds and allowing Donald Trump to take the blame from the January 6th committee for everything
00:05:17.620when it was a massive failure on several fronts.
00:05:20.720And then you have the aggressiveness of the FBI, which we've made this point in the report,
00:05:27.240is the FBI will go to great lengths using video footage to find a grandma who goes into the Capitol, prays, and then leaves,
00:05:37.880or someone like the person you were talking about who just happened to be out there, and charge them with crimes.
00:05:43.840But yet they have no idea who placed the pipe bombs.
00:06:50.880We went to the three major carriers, asked them all, and we kind of knew which one it was, but didn't want to reveal it because we wanted to see what we could find out.
00:06:59.380All three of them said, yes, we were subpoenaed by the FBI.
00:07:24.620So that agent absolutely lied because he said the data was corrupted, and we couldn't get it because it was no longer available.
00:07:32.820This is the same guy, if I'm not mistaken, that was investigating the kidnapping of the governor of Michigan and then was transferred to the head of special investigations?
00:07:48.880I can't verify that, but I think you may be right.
00:07:51.580But what gets me is, okay, they put very little resources into finding who placed the pipe bombs, but yet they will go to all lengths to find anyone who is around the Capitol.
00:08:03.500That is not an equal application of the law.
00:08:16.620So that was something that a lot of people didn't pay attention to, except for the Democrats, because the Democrats, if you go back and you think about this, this campaign for the Democrats was going to be run on January 6th.
00:08:49.860But the one thing that they had was the gallows, and they would put the gallows up in their early campaign ads.
00:08:56.400Well, my question about the gallows was always who put it up.
00:09:00.040They claim it was people who put it there to hang Mike Pence because he wasn't going to object to the certification of votes.
00:09:10.700But the thing is, Trump didn't even know what Pence was going to do until 1 o'clock in the afternoon, and the gallows was put up at 6 o'clock in the morning.
00:09:21.820So how could they have directed the gallows to hang Mike Pence when nobody knew what he was going to do?
00:09:45.580How would the Capitol Police allow that to stay up, or the Park Police, whoever, a gallows, how was it allowed to stay up all day?
00:09:52.620So as we started investigating it, then we said, let's look and see how much investigation the FBI did into it.
00:09:59.780So we looked at our videos, the Capitol surveillance videos, and we could see where the people carrying the gallows came from.
00:10:08.120They had a hand truck full of lumber pulling it up.
00:10:11.700I think it was up Pennsylvania or Constitution Avenue.
00:10:14.660So I put a team on this, and they started looking and said, all right, let's go to every government building along the street and ask them two questions.
00:10:24.040One, do they have surveillance cameras out front, which they do?
00:10:29.040Do they still have the video from it, which none of them did because it had been overwritten?
00:10:33.580And the third question was, did the FBI ever ask you for any of this video?
00:10:37.840And the answer for every one of them was no.
00:11:06.820According to your report, you said that your committee is going to release an additional investigative report into the identity of the pipe bombers.
00:11:15.740Do you know, not just that Liz Cheney and her January 6th committee lied about the phone records and the phone carrier corrupting the data,
00:11:24.740but do you know the identity of the pipe bombers?
00:11:27.420We don't know the identity, but this is being done in coordination with the Judiciary Committee chair by Jim Jordan.
00:11:35.460And so we've done our part of the report.
00:11:40.080I expect it to be released sometime next week.
00:11:42.500I know it's a bad week for releasing a report with Christmas coming, but we want to make sure that we get it right.
00:11:49.240And so we're compiling all the information they have and we have.
00:11:52.900And we're not going to identify who it is because we don't know exactly, but we know a lot more than the FBI did of potentially where they came from.
00:12:01.680I mean, we were able to track the vehicle that they were in that the FBI never went and tried to look for.
00:12:12.220Let's let's go back to Liz Cheney here because you you say she should be investigated and possibly tried.
00:12:20.800I hope if these things are true, I hope every damn one of these people, no matter which side they're on, are put in jail.
00:12:32.140Is it have you found enough to have a reasonable grand jury say, yeah, crimes were committed here and this needs to be a trial?
00:12:45.020And can you get it out of Washington, D.C., which will never be a fair trial?
00:12:50.800Well, as you know, Glenn, that is outside the realm of the legislative branch.
00:12:56.840And I've said all along on accountability, people should be held accountable, but it will never happen under the current Department of Justice.
00:13:03.300We have a new Department of Justice coming in.
00:13:06.940So we are this is one of the reasons we're making this referral.
00:13:11.580Well, let me just real quickly lay the basis of why I'm saying Liz Cheney should be investigated, because Cassidy Hutchinson, the star witness, came in and testified before the select committee twice under oath.
00:13:25.460The third time she started changing her first two testimonies.
00:13:29.620And then the fourth time she totally came out with all kind of crazy stories.
00:14:05.780In July of twenty twenty two, Liz Cheney and we have the video of her doing this in a committee, referred Donald Trump to the Department of Justice to be investigated for witness tampering because he said Trump tried to contact a witness.
00:14:45.100Who, after their communication, did change their testimony.
00:14:49.820And according to Cassidy Hutchinson, Cheney did recommend her to fire her attorney and that Liz Cheney did help her find a new one.
00:14:58.880And then Liz Cheney did try to have Stefan Pacantino, who was her first attorney, tried to get him disbarred and basically tried to ruin his life.
00:15:07.340Oh, now, just use Cheney's standards of Trump tried to contact a witness.
00:15:13.720He should be investigated versus what she actually did.
00:15:17.520And we have it documented that she did these things.
00:15:20.560This is why we're recommending the Department of Justice investigate her for witness tampering.
00:15:27.340I'm just saying if she laid the standard that just trying to make a phone call is witness tampering, then this really should be investigated.
00:15:35.160If honestly, I said this during the Trump impeachment hearings when they filed those, I said to my staff, find out as much as we can about the truth.
00:15:48.280I didn't know if anybody was good or bad on that, you know, six or eight months into it.
00:15:54.440We did an honest investigation and I said to my staff, let the chips fall where they may just seek the truth.
00:16:02.280And honestly, if these people put this country through this, they should go to jail either side.
00:16:10.360If you were at January 6th and you actually were breaking the windows and climbing through the windows, you know, and and, you know, hitting police officers, et cetera.
00:16:21.080But yeah, probably you should go to jail.
00:16:24.480You should be have a fair trial, but you should go to jail, but not the innocent.
00:16:29.220And anyone who is trying to make the innocent look guilty or make the guilty look innocent should also go to jail.
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00:16:46.720Keeping your family safe this holiday season, not to mention the rest of the year means being prepared for situations that can put them in danger.
00:16:57.360We all have felt at times that, you know, I should get a gun.
00:18:33.440He's Calvin university professor of communications.
00:18:35.980I normally don't have a communication professor on because they're normally, well, they don't know what they're talking about when it comes to modern communication.
00:18:47.720But this guy we're having on, he is, uh, not only emeritus professor of communications, he's teached, he taught storylines and storytelling with Gene Shepard, who is probably the greatest storyteller ever on radio.
00:20:10.460And then I, uh, I invited him to teach with me.
00:20:14.300And as far as I know, except for the director of a Christmas story, Bob Clark, I'm the only person still alive who knew what Gene Shepard was doing, how he told stories and what he was doing in the movie, a Christmas story.
00:24:23.520He said, yeah, he's going down to the seventh level of Dante's Inferno, where with all the soot and all the heat and smoke and everything else,
00:24:33.420he's going to stare face to face with that demon of a furnace.
00:24:38.260And he is not going to win the battle.
00:24:40.420So he said to me, that's the way all technologies are.
00:24:44.300Sooner or later, we find out they don't work as well as we thought.
00:26:56.120So when they're on the sofa together looking out the window, they're looking out over those plants right outside without the leg lamp there.
00:27:04.440And you can give thanks that they have reconciled.
00:30:58.800That's exactly what they should have done the first, first time.
00:31:01.340Um, there is a great article, uh, at glenbeck.com, the deep state's new plan to backstab Donald Trump.
00:31:08.660If you want to understand what we're going to be facing next year, because there's, there's this attitude right now.
00:31:15.180And I don't know if you've sensed this Liz Wheeler.
00:31:17.340Um, but there is this attitude that, oh, Trump selected.
00:31:22.580And that's exactly what we did in 2016.
00:31:26.180And you saw what we got four years later.
00:31:29.600Now we brought this change and we're here and people are thinking it's fixed.
00:31:36.360I, I talked to, um, uh, Lear Capital, uh, and some of the other sponsors that specifically deal in, um, you know, emergency, you know, and, and things like, Hey, back up your money.
00:31:51.260And they said on election day, they can see phone calls, phone calls, phone calls, election, nothing.