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Glenn Beck is joined by Pat Gray to talk about the disappearance of an American man, the crisis in Ukraine, and the price of oil and gas. Also, Putin is a bad guy, but we are also seeing things here in America being used against Putin that will be used against us. And finally, we have a very astute lawyer that does a lot in Washington, D.C. and has been watching a court case of a man who I think actually might be guilty of some bad stuff.
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Hey, today's podcast. It's a it's a really good one. We first talk about what is true and what
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is not with oil and gas and give you a different perspective on a barrel of oil. What are you
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willing to pay? How high of a price are you willing to pay? Also, we we kind of go into
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Putin's kind of a kind of a bad guy. But we're also seeing things here in America
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being used against Putin that will be used against us. And then finally, we have we have
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a very astute lawyer, federal lawyer that does a lot in Washington, D.C., and has been watching
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a court case of a January 6th victim, a guy who I think actually might be guilty of some
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bad stuff and should probably go to jail if he is guilty of that. But he's just been
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disappeared and his rights are being violated. It's over a year now and still no trial.
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Is there anything such as a speedy trial in America? We'll have that for you coming up.
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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Hey, there's even a bigger paper shortage that is coming. Three of the big paper manufacturers
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in Italy and others around the world completely shut down now. So there's a paper shortage coming.
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If you haven't gotten the book, The Great Reset, it is now available in hardcover right now,
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wherever you buy your books, go online to Amazon or Barnes and Noble or whoever books a million
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and order a copy now. Should be in Costco and Walmart as well. So grab it now.
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Because I thought it was available pretty much everywhere.
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Yeah. Wherever you buy your books. Okay. Okay. Yeah. I rarely buy my books at hardware stores. Yeah.
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Pat Gray is joining us now and I'm beginning to regret it already. By the way, tonight I'm going to
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explain on my Wednesday night special at nine. I'm going to retell the movie Titanic, except the
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Russians and oil prices and an economic weapon of mass destruction, the iceberg. Okay. And Jack still
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hasn't found his way to a safe door or anything floating in my version too. He still dies with that
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witch on the door going, don't they kill Jack? Oh my. Anyway, we'll explain the world by using
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Titanic tonight at nine. Don't miss it. Right after a brand new stew does America and hours and hours
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after the Pat Gray show. Hours and hours. Literally. Yeah. All right. Good. So Pat, what's on your mind
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today? I've got a couple of things that would be stuck in my craw if I had a craw, but of course
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I had my craw surgically removed. Right. Don't even know what it is. Years ago. So, but there's
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a couple of things we've all been expressing. Well, you and I and some others in the industry
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have been expressing a little bit of uncomfortability, awkwardness with this all in for Ukraine thing.
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I mean, I don't want anything bad to happen to the citizens. The citizens are good. The citizens
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are good. The government traditionally has not been. What do you mean by that? And there's a
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member of parliament that was on Fox yesterday that kind of explained what exactly it is Ukraine
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is fighting for. Okay. For the rest of us that aren't Ukrainians, I think the world, quite frankly,
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Kira, is surprised by the will of the Ukrainian people to stand up and fight. Are you?
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Well, I'm not surprised. I, uh, we have been fighting, uh, Putin for the last eight years
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and we had through the revolutions in our country when we did not agree with what was going on
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with, uh, the direction of where we're moving in. But right now it's a critical time because
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we know that we not only fight for Ukraine, we fight for this new world order for the democratic
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countries. We knew that we are the shield for the Europe. We knew that we are protecting not only
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Ukraine, we are protecting like all the other countries that would be next. Right. Wait a
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minute. So the new world order, you have a problem with that? I do. Yeah. You don't think that the
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people of Ukraine are out there in the streets thinking I am fighting for the new world order.
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I can't wait to bring on the great reset. I can't wait. Yeah. You know who she is. She's
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a member of parliament. Yeah. But she's also a member of the world economic forum. Now that I
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didn't know. Yeah. She is also, yeah, she is really talking about the great reset. We are also fighting
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for the great reset. Yeah. I didn't know that part. So, uh, you know, we hedged it a little bit,
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uh, on my show when we were talking about it, because if maybe she doesn't understand new world,
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she does. She's no, she does. Yeah. She's part of it. Yeah. No, she's part of it. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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Yeah. And so then maybe that's why we feel a little bit on edge on this whole thing. Yeah. Uh,
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yeah. So a few things don't make sense. I'm not fighting for the new world. Yeah. Yeah. No,
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that's not something I'm on board. Uh, although, uh, Vladimir Putin is, he's fighting against the new
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world order. He is for, he's fighting for a totally different new world order though. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah.
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He's fighting for as much as the other one. Correct. He's fighting for
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his national world order where it is nation states and Russia can just take all of those states that
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they want. This is national versus international new world order. Right. The reason I care about
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this is because we have an alliance with a bunch of countries that are one country away from Ukraine.
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Yeah. I also care obviously for the people of Ukraine and the obvious human stuff. Right. But
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like as far as us national interest, that's the concern. I don't want Russia to, to grow. I don't
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want them attacking freaking Estonia and draw us into a war with Russia. So here's, this is why,
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this is why our president and our Congress Senate on the democratic side for sure. And some Republicans,
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they're not representing you. They're representing now. I don't know Europe or they're representing the
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great reset or they're representing the Ukrainian people, but they're not representing you. If you
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want to say we have a moral responsibility to help the people in Ukraine, I disagree with that. I don't
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think we do have a moral responsibility as a nation, maybe as individuals and people, we do have that
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responsibility to see it, to say something and to help in all we can. But the moral responsibility for our
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leadership is to make sure that the United States of America remains stable and secure and that its
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people can actually continue to move on with their lives. So you strengthen the United States and then
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you can help more people. What they're doing is helping Ukraine and Europe and everybody else and
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hurting us just as badly. That's, that's not, uh, that's not a group of people that represent me
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because that that's suicide. And I don't want to engage in that. And meanwhile, they're building it
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on a house of lies and nobody is correcting their lies. Joe Biden's speech yesterday was incredible.
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Yeah. Filled with nothing but lies. Yeah. Nothing but like, first of all, he blamed, uh,
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Russia because of the, for the rising oil prices for the gas prices. Well, the price has risen for
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the last year, ever since he got into office, it's been rising. Right. The Ukraine situation is going
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on for two weeks. So some of it, you know, it's gone up the last few days because of Russia and
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Ukraine, but it's, it's gone up mostly because of him and his policies. Yeah. I mean, I remember
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everyone was like, Oh, you know, if this stuff happens and we could see $5 gallon gas in, in
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California, but before any of this Russia, Ukraine stuff happened, I was in California and saw $5 a
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gallon gas. It was there before any of this stuff occurred. Right. And now it's at $7. Now we're
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actually higher than the, uh, fictional gas station from the movie. I am legend. You know, this
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is, Oh my God. Remember the zombie apocalypse movie? Yeah. The world collapses. And at one
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point, Will Smith is, you know, getting something off the ground into the background. You see like
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an Exxon mobile sign. It's like six 63 for regular. And now it's at six 71 for regular in parts of
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California. So worse than the zombie apocalypse. Yeah. That's not bad. Good job, Joe. That's not
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bad. That's not bad. But you know, it's all because of these oil companies. Yeah. They won't
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drill. They could drill if they wanted to. They got 9,000 leases. I heard it from the president.
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Which is down from 37,000 under Trump. 37,000. No, no, no. 9,000. No, no, no. He didn't
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cut any of that. Yeah. No, he said yesterday. I know he said. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. He said,
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in fact, we're going to pump, we're going to pump another record this year. Uh, yeah, because
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Trump started the rebuild there. Yeah. He inherited. Right. And so that kind of spilled over into
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his administration. Right. And we're still down from the end of 2000. And by the way,
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they're, yeah, they're comparing it to his first year, Donald Trump's first year in office.
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Right. Which was, I noticed that. I love that. He was suffering from the Obama years.
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Yes. Yes. So he ramped it up, got it to 2019, uh, which was much higher than we are now because
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of course this obviously has been reversed. They bragged about reversing it. The whole thing
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they did, they came in the first day and signed all of these things to stop oil production and
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now they're denying they did it. Not true. Uh, here's the energy secretary 2021 cut five,
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the energy information administration, which is, um, uh, inside the department of energy,
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but it's independent. It predicts that we are going to turn the corner in, um, early 2022 in terms of
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pricing at the pump. See, they knew, they knew, they knew, they knew we turned, uh, they knew now
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remember we weren't having a problem with gas prices, you know, until January 20th. Uh, and
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the president is sworn in. We have no problem. Nobody was talking about gas prices. We were fine
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and we were energy independent for the very first time. And explain, explain for a minute,
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the 9,000 oil leases, because there's more to that than meets the ear as well. So when you have a
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lease, um, gas companies, oil companies, they go to the United States and they say, you have all this
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land and we think there might be oil in this section and we would like to apply for a lease
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so we can explore it. So they get a lease and for like a five year period or whatever it is,
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they can go and explore it. Doesn't, I don't think it necessarily means you can pump it.
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It means you can explore it. Okay. Um, yeah. Cause you need the permit as well. Yeah. To pump it.
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So, and I could be wrong on that one, but I don't have the permit, but they do have the lease. Right.
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And so they have the lease, but that lease does not mean that there's oil or gas there. They wanted
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to explore to see if there was, they may find no gas or no oil. They may actually find oil or gas,
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but it would be way too expensive to pump it out. So they still have the lease, but they're not
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pumping on it because it's too expensive or there's nothing to, to, uh, pump out. It wasn't
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economically feasible to get to any gas or oil that was there. Correct. Right. Yes. And that's why the
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37,000 number is so impressive because that means he was allowing them. Okay. You got to dry. Well,
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here, go find another one somewhere else. And that's why they had 37,000 leases because they
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were moving around, trying to find the oil and successfully finding it and pumping it.
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Doesn't their own rhetoric here though, ants show how much they're lying, right? Like for example,
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they are the ones saying this is the greatest existential threat to all of humanity. So, but now
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they're arguing, they're not limiting it. Like, wait a minute. You, you've been telling us forever.
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Everyone's going to die because of this product. So you weren't limiting it. What were you doing?
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That's a great point. And then, then he say, Hey, these oil companies are the most, uh, selfish,
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profit driven, money hungry, terrible. They're going to, they're going to do everything they can to
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screw the American people. And all they want is money. It's all they care about. They don't care about
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human lives. All they care about is money, but they have 9,000 leases. They just don't want to
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get the oil out right now. They don't want to make the money from those 9,000 wells. Does that make
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any sense? If they're so evil and money hungry, if there was oil there, they'd be drilling for it.
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Right. Uh, let me just play one more cut because remember Joe Biden said he was going to do
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everything he could, everything he can to make sure he drives down the price of oil. He's going to,
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he's going to do everything he can. Here is, uh, here's cut five gas prices because
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gas prices relate to a foreign policy initiative that is about something that goes beyond the cost
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of gas. And we're about three 30 gallon. Most places that now when it's up from was down in
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the single digits, I mean, single dollar plus. And, uh, and that's because of the supply being
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withheld by OPEC. And so there's a lot of negotiation that is, um, hello there. There's
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a lot of middle Eastern folks want to talk to me. I'm not sure I'm going to talk to them, but the
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point is it's about gas production. There's things we can do in the meantime, though. Do you think
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there's a, I mean, do you see, do you have a timeline for gas prices of when you think they may
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start coming down? My guess is you'll start to see gas prices come down as we get by and going
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into the winter. I mean, excuse me, into next year in 2022. Yeah. I don't see. All right, stop. It,
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it, it didn't work obviously. And, uh, he said, I'm not sure I'm going to deal with those people.
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Well, yesterday they went hat in hand to Saudi Arabia and Saudi Arabia said, yeah, we're not
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interested in talking to you. So all that help from Saudi Arabia. Thank you, Joe Biden. You did a
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really, really good. Gosh, I remember just a year ago when the entire Arab world seemed to be united
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against Iran, getting along with us and, uh, Israel. Oh, those were the days. Thanks, Joe.
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So, gosh, let's go, Brandon. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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This is the Glenn Beck program. Uh, remember, what was it yesterday, two days ago? Um, we had a
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Mississippi representative on and he said about, he was talking about the tri, what was it? The,
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the tri state compact just got a note from him said, uh, uh, we're in committee right now,
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killing the tri state compact. That is really good news. Apparently people have called in and in, uh,
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those three States and said, no, we're not doing it. Please look for these things in your state.
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All kinds of things are being passed, uh, and you don't know about them and they are, they are
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restructuring America entirely. All right. There's another bill that you should be very well, uh, aware
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of, uh, chip Roy is here. Congress has to pass a spending bill by Friday to avoid a government
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shutdown. Let me hang on just a second. Let me pause for a minute to think about all the bad things
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that might happen with a government shutdown. Okay. That's enough time. Uh, I'm over my morning
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now. Uh, let's go to, uh, chip Roy. Hello, chip. How are you? I'm doing great, Glenn. How are you,
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my friend? I'm good. So now this, this has to pass by Friday, but you got the spending bill last night
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to it this morning, 2 AM. Yeah, that's exactly right. Just so your listeners understand what's
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going on, right? You'll remember that there was a continuing resolution that was passed in September
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to December, then December to February 18th, then February 18th to March 11th, which of course is
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Friday at every point at that, along that line, we conservatives have been saying we should be doing
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something to fight for the American people, like in vaccine mandates, like stand up for border security.
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We've got nothing, nothing at all, obviously from Democrats, but worse,
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nothing from Republicans. Well, now here we sit, and now Ukraine is going on. And now the entire
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establishment in DC is all a Twitter that we've got to pass this funding bill so that one, we can
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pass a supplemental, basically war funding bill, even though we're not quote at war to go send stuff
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to Ukraine and with no debate by the way, and then pass a funding bill for the overall government.
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Now, we're not just passing a CR, we're passing an omnibus appropriations bill, okay, that packages
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everything together and spends a crap ton of your money or borrowed money. Yes, we got the bill last
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night at 1.30 in the morning. It was emailed to us at 2.30 to be clear. So we woke up early, some of
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my staff is getting in the middle of the night, we're looking through it. It's 2,700 pages long. It's a
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$1.512 trillion annual spending level bill. That is the best I can tell about an $88 billion minimum
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plus up from last year's spending level, not counting Ukraine, Glenn. That's just $88 billion
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of overall spending increases, both defense and non-defense. I think it's more than that, but
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that's the bare minimum increase. We're trying to figure it out. That's at least a 6% increase,
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but I think the increase is closer to 8 to 10. And we're trying to figure that out. And we don't
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know on what? Well, right. We're going through to figure out all the levels. When do you have to
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vote on this? We're going to vote on the rule. We just made a motion to adjourn to shut the place
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down, which we will lose, but we're just trying to buy time. And then we will vote on the rule
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sometime this morning and then vote on the bill in a few hours. Nobody's even read it. No, it's 2,700 pages.
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All the appropriators will tell you that all the appropriation staff and all of the appropriator
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cardinals, they've all looked at it, Glenn. Yeah. Those handful of people will tell you how our
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country should be moving forward, not your elected representative. Okay. Tell me, tell me what's,
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uh, what's in this anything on oil and gas. So there is not one thing to the best of our knowledge.
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We're searching through it that will help American oil and gas improve. All right. One thing, uh,
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COVID, COVID vaccine mandates. Nothing in there to end the COVID vaccine mandates. Now pause. We're
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hoping that Mike Lee will force a vote on an amendment in the Senate. But remember last time
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he did that, Mike Lee and company, well, I'm sorry, Mitt Romney and company walked out. But right now
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there's nothing in the bill in the house that we're voting on today to the best of my knowledge. It does
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anything for American oil and gas that does anything at all to end the vaccine mandates and then nothing
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to truly secure the border of the United States. Now, what my Republican establishment colleagues
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will say is, Oh, don't worry, Chip, we're going to give more money to ice and border patrol. Well,
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Glenn, you know, the truth. You're a Texan, you know, what's going on at the border. If we give more
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money to ice and border process, more people, they're going to process more people. They're going to not
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prosecute bad actors. They're not going to stop fentanyl. They're not going to stop the cartels.
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They're literally going to process more illegal aliens coming to the United States in the false
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name of asylum. There is $15.6 billion in supplemental for COVID. What the hell does that mean?
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We don't know. My staff's trying to figure out exactly what that means. There's like slight good
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news is apparently that's offset out of previous COVID money, but whoop-de-doo, it's still another
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$15.6 billion that's being refocused and targeted towards we don't know what. But I can promise you
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the continuation of BS COVID forced policies, like the masks that are still interfering with our kids,
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the vaccine mandates that are harming our folks, they'll say it's for research and stuff, but Lord
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only knows. But it's going to be $13.6 billion of Ukraine's supplemental funding plus the $15.6 billion
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of COVID supplemental funding on top of the $15.512 trillion total package.
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All right. So let me ask you, when it comes to the Ukraine spending, what are we spending it on?
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Well, again, peeling that back, there's, I believe it is roughly two thirds lethal aid. I don't know
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for sure, uh, where we're going to be funding additional, you know, stingers and, and, and,
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and lethal aid to the Ukrainians. Um, and then there's X amount of it. I think the other third
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or so is for humanitarian aid. We'll know those numbers for sure here soon. We're pouring over it,
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but what stops us from passing just that separately? Well, the, the politics of this
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town, right? I mean, now I haven't seen, or the actual votes called or whether we'll get a clean,
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straight up vote on it. I don't believe we will. I think it's going to be packaged with,
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I think we're going to have two votes, one on the security portion, which includes defense
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appropriations, Homeland security. And I think this supplemental, I'm not positive about that.
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I'll find out for sure. And I'll, I'll tell you, I'll send it to your team. Um, and then a separate
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vote on the non-defense discretionary bill, I think, but the bottom line is they're doing this
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all today to jam it all through. I suspect altogether because they want that to be the
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case, right? They don't want to be able to have a separate debate. We should be debating our Ukraine
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funding, right? You and I are both horrified. I want to speak for you, but horrified by what Putin
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is doing. I gave a speech last night on the floor of the house about what he's doing to orphans and
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children and families and separating families and blowing up bridges or blowing up schools and
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apartments and harming people. He's a thug, a KGB dictator who's killed people. But I want to know
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what we're spending this money on. And are we at war or not? I want to know what we're going to get
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out of this. I want to know when we're spending this money, where's it coming from? This is an offset.
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This is another $13.6 billion. We didn't debate it, Glenn. Not one debate on the floor of the house.
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Not one. A handful of speeches in a quiet chamber. Meanwhile, a handful of people in smoke-filled
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rooms upstairs. Well, not smoke-filled anymore because that's not politically correct. But
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upstairs in a dark room making decisions for all of America. So, Chip, how many Republicans are willing
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to stand? I mean, now is the time to take a stand and to show America who you really are. And I'll bet
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you the vast majority are like, we got to do it for the Ukrainian people. So, I'm not sure yet. I'm
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going to be blasting the hell out of it all day. I know that my Freedom Caucus colleagues largely oppose
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it. I don't know what the numbers are ultimately going to be right now. I'm going to just give you
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a target line of 50-50 in the House Republican conference. But I'm not sure. I think people are
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kind of watching this unfold. They're peeling the bill back. Not one Republican should vote for this
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bill. Unfortunately, a large number will. And they will do so falsely in the name of going out and
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helping Ukrainians when, in fact, they're using that as a beard to continue to grow and develop
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government. And they always have excuses as to why that's okay. We have to do that, Glenn. You
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don't understand. We have to do that, Chip. We know what's important here. Look, we don't have the
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majority. When you give us power, then we'll have puppy dogs and rainbows, and we'll be the fiscal
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conservatives that you guys have been asking for. No, you won't. Show me right now that you are.
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I would recommend that everyone calls their congressmen and their senators today, right now,
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and say, I have a very long memory. This omnibus spending bill that you have to pass. I would
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rather have the government shut down than pass something that none of you have even read.
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You haven't even read it. No. No more crazy spending like this in the middle of the night.
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And tell them, you can debate the Ukrainian money. Go ahead. Everything that's going,
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you have a debate on it. And you could pass that today. You could pass that tomorrow. But that does
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not. I'm not that stupid. I'm not this stupid. I know what's happening. And I will remember you.
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I'm voting. I vote for people like you. And I'm going to campaign for people like you. But if you
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don't stand right now, when it's pretty easy, because you're not going to, you're not even going to,
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your vote won't matter. If you won't do it now, you certainly won't do it when you have power. And if
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you won't do it now, I'm going to do everything I can to make sure that I work for your competition.
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I work for the candidate running against you. And if nobody's running against you,
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I might run against you. Because we need some courage right now. You call your senator and your
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House member and you tell them that right now. It's the omnibus bill. They're going to pass it in
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the House today. So you've got to call them right now and then it'll head over to the Senate. And by the
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way, make sure you call the the weasels, the Romneys in the Senate who will not stand up against this
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won't stand up by any stretch of the imagination and won't support Mike Lee. The good God, the guy
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won't even support Mike Lee in an endorsement because his good friend is Egg McMuffin or whatever
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his name is. And it's I mean, the guy is weak and pathetic. Make sure you call those senators in
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your congressman. Now, Chip, do I have it covered? Is there anything else that people can do?
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Hey, man, you got it. You got it covered. This is exactly right. Everybody out there listening.
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Glenn is exactly right. You need to light everybody up. Do not let your Republican leadership,
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your Republican representatives who claim fiscal conservative, who claim to fight for you,
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get away with this crap. This is crap. You need to call them out on it. Light the phones up and let
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them know this is unacceptable. Yeah. And do the phone. Please don't don't email them. They can
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dismiss emails, but the phones make a difference. Thank you so much, Chip. I appreciate it.
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God bless. You bet. Representative Chip Roy. By the way, just one point five billion dollars,
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another one point five billion dollars at a time where our inflation is out of control.
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No, no, no. These Republicans make me sick. You know, this country should be run by the Freedom
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Caucus. But what do I know? You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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All right. I want to tell you a story that I know, you know, but it is important that we
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January 6th, Matthew Perna entered through an open door in the U.S. Capitol.
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The door was open. He walked through the Senate wing lobby, chanting USA, USA.
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He left 20 minutes later. He recorded all of it on his phone.
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After returning to his home in western Pennsylvania, he sat down and started watching TV and he saw
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a bulletin with his face on it. Matthew did the right thing. He called to turn himself in.
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And he called the FBI without knowing that people he knew had already done that for him.
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In December, he pleaded guilty to charges of obstruction of an official proceeding and aiding
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and abetting entering a remaining entering and remaining in a restricted building or grounds,
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disorderly and disruptive conduct in a restricted building or grounds and disorderly conduct in the
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Capitol building. They are all misdemeanors except for federal obstruction, which holds a penalty of
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up to 20 years. Matthew's sentencing was scheduled for a couple of weeks from now, April 1st.
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Now, he may have faced a fair trial in court. The court of public opinion in the Biden administration,
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mainstream media had already ruled against him. He was a traitor. He was a terrorist. He was worthy
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of being turned in by his own friends. He was publicly ridiculed by major voices as a threat to democracy.
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You know how this ends for Matthew. He won't be present for a sentencing because he took his own
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life on February 25th. After his death, his lawyer said the government had recently announced an intention
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to seek an additional sentencing enhancement with Mr. Perna. He was psychologically frail and not able to deal
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with the stress of the situation. He hung himself. In his obituary, his family wrote Matthew Lawrence
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Perna died on February 25th, 2022 of a broken heart. His community, which he loved, his country and the
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justice system killed his spirit and his zest for life. The constant delays in hearings, the postponements
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dragged out for over a year. Because of this, Matt's heart broke and his spirit died.
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No one can really understand or know the mind of a suicide victim.
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It's an act of insanity. You just want everything to stop and you've convinced yourself things would be
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better for your family and everybody you love if you were gone.
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If we take his family at their word, Matthew lost so much faith in America and our justice system
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that suicide seemed a more reasonable thing than going to court.
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The story of his broken faith hit Americans hard when they heard it.
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But it sends an ominous message about the state of our union.
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We now no longer trust our own nation to deal justly with us.
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I just saw a sentence for a guy who just completely beat almost to death this elderly man.
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Illegal immigrants bussed across the country in the middle of the night.
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And yet there is a collective silence for the rights of the January 6th defendants.
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because we don't know exactly what they were charged with.
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We don't know who they are, which is weird, isn't it?
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then they succeeded in the case of Matthew Perna.