Liz Wheeler calls for Florida AG Pam Bondi to be fired over the Epstein scandal, and Chip Roy joins me on the show to talk about the Texas floods, and why he supports the bill. Also, the White House announces that there is no longer a client list for Epstein.
00:03:40.020She said, give me one good reason why I shouldn't scream for Pam Bondi to be fired today.
00:03:47.200And this was at 5 o'clock in the morning, and I said, I'm sleepy, but I don't think I can.
00:03:53.940I don't think I can give you a reason not to call for her firing today.
00:03:59.240But I want you to explain why do you feel this way?
00:04:03.480It's not something that I say lightly.
00:04:05.780I didn't say it immediately after the White House Epstein binder debacle.
00:04:11.620And I want to very prudently and judiciously make this case to you today and to make this case to President Trump, too,
00:04:18.340because Pam Bondi has become a liability to his administration, despite her loyalty in other areas.
00:04:23.520So let's start with the announcement from the Department of Justice last night.
00:04:27.320A lot of us have a lot of questions about this announcement.
00:04:30.280It just doesn't ring true with a lot of us.
00:04:32.100We see a lot of evidence before our eyes that contradicts what we're being told without evidence to believe by the FBI and the Department of Justice.
00:04:40.940And it grates on us because, like you mentioned, we are friends with Cash Patel and Dan Bongino.
00:06:09.380The other thing, I wonder, too, if Kash Patel and Dan Bongino are relying too much on the FBI's prior investigations, assuming that the FBI of old is a reliable narrator.
00:06:19.060I don't know who conducted those investigations or if it was done soundly.
00:06:27.120I talked to Dan Bongino a few weeks ago about this off air, and he said, Glenn, we are turning over every stone.
00:06:34.960We are going to get to the bottom of it.
00:06:37.020I mean, he led me to believe that, and I believed him, and I still do, that he was using new resources, opening the investigation in a new way, following it closely.
00:06:50.800And I do believe Dan Bongino is one of the good guys.
00:07:02.420I do think that it might not be possible at this point to piece together everything because we know that there have been reports of evidence destruction.
00:07:09.640So my issue with that definitive statement was the definitive nature of it, that this 100 percent happened this way.
00:07:17.600Instead of saying we don't have enough evidence to piece this together or the evidence we have points to this.
00:07:21.900All that being said, though, I want to talk about what happened last night because this brings us to Attorney General Pam Bondi, who just months ago said she had the Epstein client list on her desk.
00:07:32.560When I went back and looked at that video, the clip of her on Fox News again this morning, to make sure that there was not context that I was lacking, that there was not bungled phraseology, maybe nerves being on air, I went back and listened to it.
00:07:46.260She said definitively she had the Epstein client list on her desk.
00:07:49.900Now, fast forward to yesterday, she says that it doesn't exist, that they don't have it.
00:09:48.520On day one, roll out all of the text messaging communications we were told were deleted.
00:09:53.200On day one, play the rest of the video of the pipe bomber.
00:09:55.260On day—you know, he needs—one of the reforms I talk about in government gangsters is you need a central node to be continuously declassifying.
00:10:26.840On how the ICA was originally constructed.
00:10:30.560We went—we put 10,000 man hours against John Brennan's team that did it.
00:10:34.580And we found out why they came up with their bogus conclusions.
00:10:37.840But we couldn't sell it to the world because we couldn't talk about it.
00:10:41.460And the government gangsters came in and buried it.
00:10:43.420All of these things, there needs to be a continuing central power, whether it's the White House or off-site, that says every request that comes in, just right out the door, as long as it's not a major threat to national security.
00:12:09.580Going to call that a severe lack of judgment would be the understatement of the year.
00:12:14.000There is no way in my mind, and I have tried every way to Sunday, to square that behavior with the announcement that we got last night from the Department of Justice.
00:12:22.360Pam Bondi told us at the time, she said, I requested the Epstein files.
00:12:26.160The files in the binder were the ones given to me.
00:12:28.620Nothing was in them, she told us at the time.
00:12:30.680Then a whistleblower called her, she told us, and said the SDNY was hiding other files.
00:12:36.000That's the story, she told us, that there's been a deep state cover-up.
00:12:39.120So at the time, after we were given these binders, we waited, right?
00:12:42.080You give your side the benefit of the doubt.
00:12:43.420Maybe Pam Bondi will come up with the goods, even though the rollout was botched, to say the least.
00:12:49.140But she, this is another thing I have not discussed publicly before, she said she had not seen the SDNY documents at the time that she was telling us about them.
00:12:58.780I asked her directly that day in the White House, when she said, a whistleblower told us about these truckloads of SDNY documents, I said, have you seen them?
00:13:06.540She said, no, she sent the request, and they're bringing them to her.
00:13:09.780So contextualizing all of this, suddenly this seems like unforgivable behavior.
00:13:14.280How could she give the American people, not just me, I don't care about how this impacts me,
00:13:17.860how could she give the American people those phase one binders that contained nothing,
00:13:21.980while at the same time bragging about the cover sheet that she made, the most transparent administration in history,
00:13:27.460and tell us that the SDNY had the real goods, that the binder was just proof of a deep state cover-up,
00:13:32.180that was the real story she told us, only now to say, sorry, there's actually nothing.
00:13:36.480So it leaves us with this situation, what are the options?
00:13:40.360The options as, well, was she herself set up by some deep state FBI career officials trying to make a fool of her?
00:18:30.220And, I mean, it's hard to put in perspective.
00:18:32.700And I tweeted out a picture that we had of a time lapse of what happened out in Orlando.
00:18:37.820And you could see it in about literally it was about a four-minute span where the water just rose up.
00:18:44.360I don't know how many feet, but if you look at the video, it's extraordinary.
00:18:46.760It's engulfing a bridge, filling up an entire river basin.
00:18:51.280And people were, you know, responding to that tweet like, oh, my gosh, how does that happen?
00:18:56.400This is what we deal with in central Texas generally with flash floods because we have hard, dry ground.
00:19:03.400We have limestone with a very thin kind of layer of soil on top, right?
00:19:09.080And we've been in a drought, so it's particularly been pretty hard.
00:19:13.500And so, you know, you get then a rain like we got, which is basically a tropical storm type event that just sat and spun in that one location.
00:19:23.140And that water is going to go somewhere when you're talking 12 to 14 inches of water.
00:19:29.460Look, I've seen a lot of different theories on this and people going, oh, well, you know, some people are saying it's, you know, don't worry.
00:19:36.880This is not the first time this has happened.
00:19:48.500Well, what you saw here was a level of water that went so fast and so furiously.
00:19:54.260And remember, between 4 a.m. and 6 a.m., right, it was in that window of July 4th.
00:20:00.680So, you know, they were prepared for flash flooding, but they were prepared for what you would call normal or even bad flash flooding, not the level that occurred.
00:21:00.220The finger pointing generally is just offensive when you're dealing with trying to find bodies and trying to deal with families grieving.
00:21:08.380Like night before last, I was with the families who have not been able to find their daughters or who are pretty, you know, are learning the bad news about their daughters.
00:21:17.980So that's where I was night before last.
00:21:20.240I don't know where Dana Bash was, but she wasn't there.
00:21:23.500And we're down on the ground with first responders trying to find people.
00:21:27.060And we're trying to clean up debris and we're trying to help a community heal.
00:21:31.800And we're trying to deal with you got a camp director who died trying to save little girls.
00:21:36.060And I'm there with his daughter who is now there with the families of the people who lost their little girls at this camp.
00:21:44.280And she was there because she loves them.
00:21:49.440And you got these people like Dana Bash who were out there, you know, making this conjecture about budget cuts or the Trump administration didn't have people there, which, first of all, is false.
00:22:02.140And second of all, whatever we're going to do in analyzing all of this, do it in a week or two or in a month when we can sit back and take in all the facts.
00:22:12.820We used to be a country that would do that.
00:22:15.160And instead now it's all about this politicization and this, you know, recriminations and trying to exploit.
00:22:21.620We got media who are tracking down the family members right now.
00:22:24.920And when the families say, guys, we don't want to talk, they go dig up stuff on social media, put pictures up on their kids, kids who were alive 72 hours ago, aren't alive now.
00:22:37.020So that's the kind of crap we're dealing with.
00:22:39.100And with all due respect to Dana, it's just not true.
00:22:41.900OK, and by the way, you know, whatever the National Weather Service was doing, do you and I both believe that there's probably bureaucracy at NOAA and in commerce that could be made better?
00:22:54.200Yeah, I'm sure you and I believe that.
00:22:56.540And I know President Trump believes that.
00:26:08.500That's to me, that's my starting position.
00:26:10.720And then the question becomes, you know, before that, it's like, well, who knew what?
00:26:14.640My observation of all this is the president, the federal government was doing what they normally do and more and some sent more people were on top of it.
00:26:25.560They put out notices and we'll have to go through and see.
00:26:28.700OK, you know, there were there were different meteorologists who, for my observation here in Texas, were all still observing this late in the night.
00:26:36.480There's a local guy in Austin who's pretty good and he was tracking it.
00:26:45.340Because I was trying to decide if I was going to go to Kerrville, where I go every year for the Fourth of July for a big concert with my family.
00:26:53.860Then President Trump asked and his team asked if I would stay for the bill signing.
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00:27:26.440All right. We welcome Stubergear to the program, our executive producer and our head writer for television and also our chief researcher, Jason Buttrill.
00:27:35.400Guys, biggest story of the day, in your opinion, Stu, first.
00:27:42.480The floods, without a doubt, I think is the biggest story of the day.
00:28:30.840By the time it was up to their ankles and by the time he gathered all the children and tried to open the door, it was up to the waist and he couldn't open the door.
00:28:39.220And so he broke the bedroom window and took the mattress and was shoving it out the window with his kids on top of it and he cut his arm and sliced the artery on the broken glass, sliced the artery, almost, I mean, almost cut his arm completely off.
00:29:02.180He's hemorrhaging as he's still pushing the kids and everybody out the window and at the very end he says, I'm not going to make it, but stay safe, I love you.
00:29:16.580I mean, it's amazing stories coming out of this.
00:29:19.200Yeah, I mean, it's one of the worst stories that I can remember in a long time.
00:29:23.180Certain stories hit you in different ways, right?
00:29:25.460Like I always thought, you know, and maybe it's, you know, the era of life that you're in, right?
00:29:30.140Like I was, had, you know, very, you know, you were at the beginning of, I have kids that like were going to camp or thinking about going to camp this year.
00:29:39.500They're right around the age of group of these girls that were killed.
00:29:43.720And, you know, you think about back to like, the other one that always hits me like this is Newtown.
00:29:48.160You know, obviously all these shootings are different, but like the Newtown one in particular, just, you know, five-year-olds and like just completely, you know, completely innocent and just awful.
00:29:57.100So it hits me, it hits you at that level.
00:29:59.820And then you also see the reaction to it, which has just been so ridiculous.
00:30:03.620All these false claims about how, well, it's the budget cuts that are the reason for this.
00:31:05.760All right, so Jason, with your heart full of compassion or tinsel, I can't remember which one it is, you're saying the Epstein story is the biggest.
00:32:06.260Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, hang on, don't just stop it, it's on my desk.
00:32:10.720Then the next line from her was, they are stopping us from getting all of the information we need in New York City at the FBI office.
00:32:22.900And that's when I got on the air and said, if that is true, why aren't you there arresting those people who are being insubordinate in the pursuit of justice?
00:32:34.020And nothing happened, which just didn't ring true to me.
00:33:17.900Imagine, if you will, for a second, the economic impact of, let's say there is a list, the economic impact that multiple major CEOs, Fortune 500 guys, the richest people in the world, are on this list.
00:33:32.280Now, imagine having to choose, do we let this out, and then you're like right there, you know, talking to the big decision makers, if we let this out, the U.S. economy will take this hit, this hit, this hit, this hit.
00:34:11.880When we were going through that, I wrestled with my, I know about Iran, I know the threat they pose, I know the threat they pose to the United States of America, but as I put myself in Donald Trump's shoes, I thought, this is why I couldn't be president.
00:34:27.440Could I make the choice that I'm so certain that I could be the guy that started World War III?
00:34:36.220You know, it's a very lonely, the presidency is a very lonely place.