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Chip Roy joins Glenn Beck on the Glenn Beck Program to discuss the tragic death of conservative commentator Charlie Kirk and the impact it has had on the country and the country at large. He also talks about the impact of Pam Bondi and Donald Trump's comments on hate speech.
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Stu and I arrived at Turning Point USA this morning around 430 to be ready to do this podcast
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for you live on national radio. And then we we finished that. There's some really good stuff
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on today's podcast talking about the turning point where we are, what it's like here, and also some
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of the news that is happening, including what what Pam Bondi and Donald Trump are talking about now
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on hate speech, something Charlie was dead set against. And we're going to be filling in for him.
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I recommend to you search out that podcast and listen to that. And a lot of people have asked
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to how they can help. I don't know what the right answer to this is, but as maybe a placeholder for
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this is helping the family to start and TPUSA. We do have a fundraiser, give send go dot com slash
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nine twelve project to help the family. But TPUSA, we see now over 50,000 requests for new
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chapters, 56,000, not like, oh, 50,000 people want to join 50,000 chapters. We're talking about
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the the impact of this is going to echo for a very long time. Yeah. And we'll give you all of
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the coverage on it this week as we're here this week and be attending the funeral on on Sunday.
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So we'll give you all of that from from Phoenix, Arizona this week. And don't don't forget tonight
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on the television show, we'll be covering the Charlie Kirk TPUSA broadcast as well. We have
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We have Chip Roy on with us. Chip is the Republican congressman from Texas, also candidate for Texas
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attorney general. And we couldn't get a better attorney general than Chip Roy. Um, Chip, I want
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to talk to you a little bit about, um, you know, what the New York times is saying and a gross overreach
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that we are now, uh, targeting the Democrats and we're using Charlie Kurtz death as a political tool
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by going after some of these NGOs and looking into who might be funding, uh, different things. Can you
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respond to that? Well, I think they're afraid that's the truth, Glenn. Uh, they don't want us to pursue
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the truth. They don't want us to expose to the American people, the broad, extensive, coordinated
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network of radical leftists, Marxists that are funding all of this. Now they think we're trying to
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say, Oh, you know, you're saying they funded the shooting of Charlie Kurtz. Well, we'll let the
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authorities go investigate this and follow the law wherever it may lead. But what I am saying
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is that that radical organized coordinated group are purposely undermining our values and our way of
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life, whether it's the border and all of the funding of the NGOs and all of the organizations,
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including by the way, a lot of charities masquerading as faith organizations that were
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dumping people into our country, harming our citizens. American citizens died, fentanyl poured into
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our streets, the organized funding, like the Ren collective that is a tied to these radical DAs
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and Soros funded prosecutors, judges that are letting criminals out on the street,
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then in dangerous that resulted directly in the death of the Ukrainian refugee that we all saw
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in that horrific video leading up to obviously the loss of Charlie, but the radicalization of our
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schools, the radicalization of all of this stuff, the transgender efforts, all of that is not just
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some fanciful, like weird unicorn hippie crap. It's actually a coordinated effort to target Western
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civilization and our belief system. And they don't want us to pursue it. We must pursue it. And that's
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why I put forward a letter calling on the formation of a select committee. They're designed to focus on it.
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Now, look, if we want to run that all under judiciary or oversight, fine. I mean, Speaker Johnson and Jim
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Jordan and Jamie Comer, they're all great friends. However, we want to do it. The purpose of the
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letter is to say we must do it. It can't just be left to cash and the FBI and to Pam Bondi and to the
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administration. Congress has to do our job to expose to the American people, this broad network
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We just to go through some of them. 2012 terrorist attack against a conservative Christian think tank,
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the Family Research Council. We know somebody went in there and just shot everybody up.
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Steve Scalise shot at the Republican practice for the congressional baseball game. The guy wanted to
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is a Bernie Sanders fan, wanted to kill everybody on the diamond. All of the Republicans ran Paul
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attacked by a crazy lefty on his own lawn. Supreme Court Justice Brett Kavanaugh almost
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assassinated. President Trump nearly assassinated, not once, but twice, both lefties. And now Charlie
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Kirk was assassinated. And I think a lot of this... Go ahead. No, go ahead.
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No, I want to point out one thing there. Take an organization like the Southern Poverty Law Center.
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They have their heat map, right, that is directed to saying that we've got our folks who are hate
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organizations or, you know, somehow a threat. And they put all that out there trying to radicalize
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their people. Guess who was on that list? The Family Research Council, which you just pointed
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out, was shot up by a radicalized individual right here in Washington, D.C., where a security guard got
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shot. Charlie Kirk was on the Southern Poverty Law Centers, targeted heat map, and basically putting
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a target on Charlie Kirk. So all of these things are coordinated. And I didn't mean to interrupt you,
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but I just wanted people to understand each one of these things are connected.
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You have a lot of it also that is connected directly to schools. I mean, Arabella Advisors,
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you know, you look at what these guys are doing in conjunction, just raising money and dumping
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it into these far left wings. I mean, Chip, I've been on this since Tides Foundation was, you
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know, something new and breaking news. This is a long running practice of the left. And
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it's got us. It has to stop. It has to stop because they're not only taking the money that
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they're raising and fomenting revolution, color revolution in our own country, but they also
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have found a way to our tax dollars. And so these same organizations are getting our tax dollars
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to do the same. Glenn, you know, when I've followed you for a long time and, and, you know,
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you and I have now known each other for a long time. And, and, and the thing that I've always
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admired about what you've done is try to explain to the American people, even dating back to some
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of your, your TV days where you go out there and you have the big whiteboards, right? Connecting the
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dots. And this is where I think Congress has been missing it. And Republican Congress, and we do,
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we do a lot of good stuff. Okay. And look, we've been working hard and the big, beautiful bill and
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all this stuff, you know, I'm talking about good and bad. There's some good, some bad. You got to
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hurt cats. I get it. But we have not done a sufficient job, in my opinion, of exposing this
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organized, coordinated effort. And by the way, that is directly tied to what we were articulating a
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couple of years ago, when we went through the speakers fight, and we were demanding that we create
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a sort of weaponization select committee, we ended up sticking it under the judiciary committee. And
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we did some things. But the purpose there to me is much bigger and bolder than we've ever done.
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I believe we need to step on the gas. I believe that we need to expose that coordinated network
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and the weaponization of government that is tied to it. That's the key element here, right? All of those
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groups, fomenting hate and targeting our people. And I don't mean fomenting hate like hate speech.
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That's a garbage principle, by the way. And I hope the attorney general is backing away from
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talking about, quote, hate speech. That's a leftist, tyrannical terminology. We don't police thoughts.
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But the focus, when you've got a hate map, that's a political tool of the left to say that,
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yeah, Charlie Kirk, he's a hater. And the Family Research Council is a hater. Why? Because
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we believe in Jesus, and we believe in Western civilization. We believe in marriage. We believe
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in families. We believe in responsibility and work ethic and Western civilization. They want to target
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it and go after it. And they use government to attack us for it. They use government to undermine
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the Trump administration. They use government to target law-abiding citizens and things like the
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FACE Act, if you dared pray in an abortion clinic. And I could go on and on. That's the coordinated
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effort we need to do a better job of exposing. That's what my letter was all about.
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I was on a conference call yesterday with a bunch of leaders on the right. And we were discussing
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things that need to happen. And I brought up some things that can't happen. I said, you know, I hope
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that we are all watchdogs here, that we don't go too far, that we don't have a Patriot Act. Because
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right now, the passions are running very, very high. And we don't want another Patriot Act. We cannot afford
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another Patriot Act. I want to make sure that we're doing everything constitutionally
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correct, not getting into some sort of thing that we're all going to regret down the road.
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Is this all constitutional? Is this all right in line with, are you opening up a can of worms that
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when the other side gets a hold of this, we're going to pay for it?
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Well, so I couldn't agree more, actually. And keep in mind, what we're talking about is
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what I'm talking about, not a law, not a additional crime, not a, you know, statute that's going to be
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enforced against people. It's about saying we need to put together hearings with subpoenas and call
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people forward and paint a picture for the American people. Look, we do that anyway. All this,
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that's it. Well, that's oversight. That's our job in Congress. But we just need to do it with focus.
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My point is, and I think you agree, we just need to do it better. And we just need to expose
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this radical, radicalized network that's against our way of life. People are going to say, oh,
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that's McCarthyism. No, I want to seek truth wherever it may lead. I believe, and I've seen
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significant evidence of these coordinated activities. Let's go see it. If George Soros is just sitting on an
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island, throwing money into the wind to get people elected, he is within his rights to do so.
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If some organization wants to speak out and say they don't like our country or they don't believe
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in Jesus, they are free to do so. But when you are coordinating all of that, and these organizations
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are masquerading as things they are not, and when they are then using that to foment the kind of
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violence and things that are directed at our way of life, or putting criminals on the streets,
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or putting gang members in our neighborhoods, or funneling fentanyl into our communities,
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because it's a political operation, because they want more voters, well, that's a real problem.
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And that's undermining our security, and it needs to be exposed, must be exposed,
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and then we can go deal with it. But I couldn't agree more. We should not react. Like, I'll give you
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an example. We were debating yesterday in the Rules Committee a small provision that was added to the
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continuing resolution to add additional security for executive branch, judiciary, and then, yes,
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legislative branch officials. It was about $88 million of funding. Now, that's not huge in our
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budgetary scheme, sadly. But I raised the question, guys, how are we paying for this? How is this going
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to work? Like, sure, security. But we shouldn't react and throw everything out because we're just,
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oh my God, we're in a panic. This happened. This is terrible. We should follow our normal procedures,
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make reasoned, collective judgments about what is good for the country. And I believe the country
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deserves to know the truth about organizations they think are innocent that are out there fomenting a
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lot of the things that are undermining their liberty, their security, their way of life.
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Talking to Chip Roy, who's running for Texas Attorney General. He is currently a congressman,
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one of the best congressmen in Washington. Let me switch gears. How long do you think this is going
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to last, this at least attempt at unity? You know, especially after what you saw happen with
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Luigi Mangione in court yesterday. People in the courtroom cheered when they said, you know,
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they had to throw out the murder in the first degree charge. They cheered.
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Well, I don't really put much stock in whatever people are saying about, quote, unity at the moment,
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whether that's unity that people are saying we need to unite across our ideologies or even within,
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frankly, the Republican Party per se. Unity without purpose that are binding us together under a shared
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set of values is not unity. Like, what are we united to do and accomplish?
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Um, I said this in so much in the letter that we're not, we can't force being bound together.
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You are bound together based on your commitment to a shared belief system. And you either believe
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in Western civilization, believe in God, believe that our Western civilization is built on those
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Chip, as always, thank you very much. Appreciate it. Keep up the good work.
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All right. Let me tell you about, uh, pre-born. Uh, you know, it's really easy crying, crying, um, um,
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crying babies are annoying, but crying babies, you know, when they're first crying, it's like,
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hey, they're alive. And that's one thing that is really easy to celebrate life. Now,
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some people don't want to celebrate life. Some people would say, shout your abortion. That's called
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a culture of death. And as we've talked about on this program over and over and over again,
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a culture of death might start with the babies, but then end with the killing of anyone they find
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useless. Huh? Or annoying that crying baby, that, that shouting Charlie Kirk doesn't matter.
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Once you start dismissing life, you can dismiss any life. If it offends you, if you don't deem it
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worthy, see how this works. Pre-born wants us to get back to the basics and declare that all life
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is sacred. Um, we have to stand up for life in the abortion clinics. And that is exactly what
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Now back to the podcast. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. And we really want to thank you
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for listening. Ryan, welcome to the program. We're glad you're here. Thanks for having me.
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So, uh, Ryan, uh, first of all, uh, I know how you felt about Charlie Kirk and, uh, condolences,
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uh, on that. And thank you for everything that you're doing, uh, right now. I think this is so
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important, especially in the wake of his, uh, martyrdom.
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Yeah. Thank you. And it's an honor really to be part of, um, you know, your friend and to be part
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of, part of your team and try to make a difference so that this doesn't go unanswered. And so that
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hopefully some greater good comes about as a result of this.
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So I remember you and I met, Oh, how many years ago? And we, we sat together and we talked about
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taking on George Soros and how important. Do you remember that conversation?
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I do. Um, it was, we were discussing our mutual friend, Phil Haney, who had passed, um, and the way
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Uh, and so you have been doing research, uh, and you are a great researcher, um, and you've been doing
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research and what can you share now? I know you want to make a big announcement when we're together
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again with the, the Charlie Kirk, uh, show, but what can you give us as a preview?
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Well, what I can say is, is that I believe that myself and my colleagues at Capitol research
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center have done the most extensive investigation into the Soros network's funding of extremists
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that I think was ever conducted. Um, and the results are shocking and it should change the game. It
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should equip the Trump administration with what they need in order to take action. Uh, we don't
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have to have a debate about free speech versus hate speech. Um, if you look at the IRS code, uh,
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nonprofits are not allowed to be engaging in criminal activity. They're not allowed, uh, possibly to even
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be encouraging it. If you look at the language, um, and what we have found is many millions of dollars
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going to go into things like that. And right now I'm holding my hand about 100 pages of evidence
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that we're about to drop, um, with you. And so I think it's safe to say that today the counteroffensive
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begins. Yeah, we are going through the a hundred pages ourselves right now. We got it from you last
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night and, um, and we're furiously going through all of the pages. It's pretty, um, pretty remarkable,
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uh, what you have found. What is your, um, what's your level of comfort on saying 100% correct?
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I almost never say this, but it's a hundred percent correct. And to give you an idea of why
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I'm so confident, uh, there's a related report that I did for Cavaliers Center called marching
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towards violence, where we mapped out all the groups that were organizing the anti-Semitic,
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anti-American protests after the October 7th attacks. Uh, and we identified over 150 pro-terrorism
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groups that basically manufactured all of that. Uh, and this is, this is very similar. There's
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some overlap. And here is what one of the media outlets connected to that seditionist movement
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truth out actually said, they said that our report is a quote existential threat that could easily mean
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a quick death for most of the groups, especially the nonprofits by getting their tax exempt statuses
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revoked. And those that survive, this group said would suffer what they called mass chaos.
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So the extremists have told us that we've discovered how to defeat them.
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You know, it's, it's amazing to me that these guys have gotten away with it for so long. I mean,
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when I started, you know, going after the tides foundation and showed how the showed America,
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how the shell game was working, they've only gotten more bold and much, much more dangerous,
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um, all the way into using our tax dollars to funnel money into overthrowing us. Um, uh,
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why, why haven't we gotten serious about this until now?
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I think it's so brazen that it's hard for people to believe that there's actually something bad going
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on. I mean, there's a few things going on, which is where it's so in your face that people say,
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well, I mean, if it was really that bad, then someone would have done something about it.
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And then they looked elsewhere. Um, there have been expositions done about grants going from some
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of these big billionaire funded organizations, going to these extremist groups, but it comes in
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drips and draps. Um, so what we've done is we brought it in the case of Soros, brought it all
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together into one spot, found many, many, many more financial transactions using their own records,
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uh, in order to illustrate for the first time, I think,
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so people understand that this is an infrastructure, this is a movement. And as scary as that is, it
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also means it can be taken down. We can confront them. And this is something that we can win.
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You know, it was amazing to me. Um, I think there's three countries. I know it's Hungary. I think it's
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Singapore. And I think there's another one that have banned George Soros and his allies. Uh, you,
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you, you can't operate in those countries, um, because they know the damage that he does and
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they know, and they, and they've just said it out loud. Do you think we're going to get to a place
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Well, I think we're at that point. I think when this comes out and people realize that what the
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IRS code says, a tax exempt organization can do and cannot do, and how blatantly is being crossed
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that this is no longer a heavy list. It's just a matter of the will of willpower and coordination,
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making sure everybody that can make something happen actually does it and is all operating.
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They're all on the same page. Um, and as bad as the threat is, and as quickly as it's escalating,
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I think we can rapidly push it back. Um, and when people see that like Soros is funding so many
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groups that endorsed the October 7th attacks, I think you'll even see democratic voting and left-wing
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supporting groups back away and say, you know what? I don't want to touch this.
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Uh, we are, uh, like I said, we're going over the research, uh, ourselves and, uh, we'll probably
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end up doing a, uh, a giant chalkboard on it once we get through it. But I want you to know,
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I'll personally give it to the president, um, myself to make sure that he sees it because,
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um, you've done, you've done yeoman's work here, uh, and done a lot of the work for the FBI and
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everybody else's. I mean, it's, it's not hard to see where it is. It is hard to prove it and to
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track it down, uh, and make sure that everything is buttoned up and you've done a lot of that work
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already. So thank you for that. Thank you so much, Glenn. Uh, it's great to know that finally
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action will be taken with your help and that just for everyone listening out there, like
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civilians can make a difference. You know, I'd say you don't have to outsource your civic
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responsibility to the government and assume that they know everything and all the powers in their
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hands. This is, this is the power of patriotic nonprofit organizations like the one I work for
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independent civilians can do. You can really make a difference if you want to.
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Can you talk about, um, occupied turtle Island? I know we've talked about this before, but I'd like
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you to go into that again, because it kind of goes into what you were, what you're going to talk about
00:25:12.960
here, uh, coming up in a couple of hours. Sure. So, so this is a term that everyone needs to
00:25:19.300
familiarize themselves with, because this is how, you know, when a group is radical, very often our
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times are hiding it. They will refer to the United States as either the so-called United States or
00:25:28.900
occupied turtle Island. And it comes to this myth that the native Americans before the evil white
00:25:35.100
settlers showed up, refer to the entire continent as turtle Island. And what they do is by referring
00:25:41.620
to the U S as turtle Island, they're saying, we do not recognize the right of the United States to
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exist. And if you do not have a right to exist, then you should be destroyed. And it's the same
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template that they use against Israel when they refer to it as occupied Palestine.
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So these groups that are supposedly just anti-Israel, but then refer to the U S as occupied turtle
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Island. They have the same exact agenda for both of us. And if you look at the foreign governments
00:26:08.620
that support them, if you look at what the words of the extremists of all kinds say that are part of
00:26:14.660
this movement, their big gamble is that Americans can be triggered, provoked to rip America apart along
00:26:24.000
racial lines, along political lines, and that our civil discourse, our civil society will be so poisoned
00:26:31.760
that it'll cease to function. And that people will become more like Tyler Robinson supporters and their
00:26:39.440
rhetoric will be more like that. And less like the love you would see from Charlie Kirk. I mean,
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I mean, you look at some of the longer, even the longer videos of Charlie cook that sometimes didn't
00:26:50.180
always go viral and you can see the love he had for the people who was debating at times. And that
00:26:55.420
for me, I know made me a better person that impacted me more than any opinion he expressed or argued for.
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I think that's why he affected so many people. He really did love the people he was debating.
00:27:08.880
He really didn't have hatred in his heart for any of them. I mean, you know, he, he became a
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Christian. He was baptized in 2018, I think, and he lived his faith. He lived his faith and was really
00:27:24.120
trying to live a life very much like Christ. And, you know, not a perfect guy by any stretch of the
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imagination, but man, better than I am better than I probably have ever been, uh, you know,
00:27:35.940
living his life. Let me, let me ask you about one other thing. Um, let me put a full screen up. Um,
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this is, uh, Kristen Hawkins, president of students for life, a side by side picture of a Charlie Kirk
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memorial at UNC Wilmington, one before it was vandalized and one picture now spray painted with
00:27:57.940
trans pride colors. So vandalize after. Have you heard of trans, uh, Trantifa?
00:28:06.740
I heard that term. I have. Oh yeah. It's like a militia type movement. And they've used that term to
00:28:13.100
describe themselves by the way. So it's not really offensive. How real is Trantifa? How, how extensive
00:28:21.520
is that? And have you seen any funding going toward groups that would call themselves Trantifa?
00:28:29.380
I've seen funding, including from Soros' network going towards groups that ally themselves with
00:28:35.600
Antifa terrorists for sure. We're going to show that. Um, Trantifa would be a subset of that. Uh,
00:28:40.980
so you can make the argument back connection exist. Um, but more broadly, I mean, I've been studying and
00:28:46.300
monitoring extremists and getting to law enforcement intelligence about these types of people
00:28:50.180
for many years, reporting thousands of them. And so I saw this militia type Trantifa movement
00:28:57.300
really growing and it's real. Like I've seen them own MNA gyms. Um, I've seen them doing,
00:29:02.800
they're very pro-gun actually, um, because you have to be to have a militia. Um, and they act,
00:29:10.240
I've seen them actually radicalize what you would consider to be almost like right-wingers with this
00:29:14.900
anarchist rhetoric about minimal government or no government and gun rights. And that's why it's,
00:29:21.380
the more I monitor this, the more I feel like the framing of some of this needs adjustment because
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all of these diverse extremists kind of go into one global seditionist movement is what I call it.
00:29:33.140
All of us, as much as we disagree, have so much more in common with each other
00:29:36.680
than all of these extremists that want to burn everything to the ground.
00:29:41.060
I know, I know, I know. And yet they'll stand together, uh, you know, and plan on killing
00:29:46.760
each other after, you know, they, they win against us. Uh, and for some reason we just
00:29:51.740
can't stand together. Thank you so much, Ryan. I'll talk to you in a couple of hours. Appreciate it.
00:29:58.120
You bet. Ryan, Ryan is going to be joining me on the Charlie Kirk show because of his relationship
00:30:02.960
with Charlie Kirk. He really wanted to announce it on Charlie's, uh, show. Um, and I think it's
00:30:08.440
absolutely appropriate. Um, but it's, it's big breaking news and it is the key that the president
00:30:16.700
will need to begin to take down George Soros and, uh, a lot of his NGOs. Uh, Ryan seems to have
00:30:24.540
the goods, um, and we'll bring that to you in a couple of hours.
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:30:38.100
So we arrived about, uh, four, four 30 this morning at turning point USA, and it is an
00:30:42.840
odd place to be right now. Um, the workers hadn't come in. It was very quiet, very dark.
00:30:48.240
Uh, police still had the streets, uh, blocked off. You had to go through security to get
00:30:52.660
here. Lots of security to get here. Uh, but it's about this time, uh, that people start
00:30:57.660
to funnel in and then, uh, start to go and leave things out on the street in front. And
00:31:03.260
it's a large city block, long, uh, large city block. And, um, and there are the, the, the,
00:31:11.500
the sidewalks are probably what? Eight, 10 feet deep, easy, 10 feet. It's incredible. And
00:31:17.240
it just covered with notes and packages and, and, um, and flowers and balloons and teddy bears.
00:31:23.280
And I mean, it's, it's really incredible what's happening. The outpouring absolute outpouring
00:31:27.940
and you're not just seeing it here. You're seeing it all over the country. And as you
00:31:31.780
mentioned earlier, the world really, really quite remarkable. Pat is, uh, here. Um, he's
00:31:38.140
in our Dallas studios as Stu and I are out in Phoenix. Um, we were just talking about the
00:31:43.440
five lies that are going around about Charlie Kirk. And it is, it's, it's reprehensible on what
00:31:49.600
is going on because the people who are saying these things, who are starting these things,
00:31:53.860
they really need that. I mean, they know, they know like Stephen King, really, you really think
00:32:00.920
that Stephen King, you really think that Charlie Kirk is for the stoning of gay people.
00:32:07.160
I will. I do think though, a lot of these people have, uh, an image of everyone on the right.
00:32:16.520
So that shows how, how unbelievably isolated you are.
00:32:20.600
Yeah. Yeah. Absolutely. Uh, now King, you know, in particular, I think like, I don't,
00:32:25.520
I don't think Stephen King was lying on that. I think he's, you know, I don't think he's the,
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you know, the sharpest knife in the, in the, in the drawer.
00:32:34.020
He's not an idiot, right? He's not like he informed thoughts, but I think he is so completely
00:32:38.460
isolated in his bubble that, you know, like, you know, if, if someone says something
00:32:42.740
terrible about a person like Charlie Kirk and your image of him is he's basically Hitler,
00:32:50.860
well, what you don't, you don't spend time fact checking it. You're like, oh, of course that guy's
00:32:55.140
that he's that terrible human being. Of course he said something like that. You don't even bother
00:32:59.280
to check it, you know? I mean, and I, you know, it's like, uh, you know, if you, if you ran into a
00:33:04.660
quote from Hitler, you had never seen that was negative on Jews, you, you know, you, as a
00:33:09.640
journalist, you should probably check it, but like, you might think, oh yeah, that was probably true.
00:33:12.920
He said a lot of things like that. That's how they think about people who are like normal
00:33:17.240
conservatives who want lower taxes and less regulation. And that is really, really disturbing.
00:33:24.300
So these lies are really prominent. People really believe these things.
00:33:27.920
So there's a couple of, here's the, here are the five. Uh, the first one is Charlie Kirk said
00:33:33.160
black people were better off in slavery. How big of an idiot do you think you have to be to believe
00:33:38.680
that? Okay. I mean, unless you're Crockett, unless your last name is Crockett and I don't mean Davey,
00:33:44.580
uh, uh, black Americans were better off than slavery. No, that's absolutely no true. Not true. He never
00:33:54.800
said anything like that. Now, um, what he, what you're probably getting this from, and I'm going
00:34:01.880
searching. I mean, I am on a metal, I'm with a metal detector on the beach with, you know,
00:34:06.920
board shorts and sandals and socks looking for anything that kind of even sounds like that.
00:34:12.360
But Charlie Kirk did say that, you know, they were talking about Jim Crow and how evil Jim Crow was.
00:34:18.200
Um, uh, but he said, but if you look at the family, the black family before the passage of the civil
00:34:26.280
rights act, which ended the Jim Crow laws, he said the family was thriving. Um, and it was,
00:34:34.160
it was blacks had a lower divorce rate than whites did in, I think, 1961. Um, they, uh, uh,
00:34:44.160
their families were stronger. Dads were in the homes. They had a lower crime rates. I mean,
00:34:50.600
it, something happened around the time of the civil rights act. Now, my theory is the civil rights act
00:34:57.540
was a, uh, was done by progressives. I mean, these are the guys who said no to the civil rights act
00:35:04.840
just four years before and, and, and worked hard to stop the civil rights act. So what changed in those
00:35:11.160
four years, the assassination of president Kennedy, that changed your mind? Not even, not even. Um,
00:35:19.300
I mean, uh, Johnson was the biggest racist up until he, uh, up until he died. Why would he create the
00:35:25.160
great society? My theory, this is just a theory, but my theory is, is because finally the progressives
00:35:32.560
had a way to, um, keep, um, keep blacks under their thumb and destroy the family and destroy them
00:35:39.300
as people. I mean, the civil rights act and the more of the great society, the great society did
00:35:46.160
more damage to the black family than, than, than anybody could have done outside of Margaret Sanger.
00:35:52.640
I think that's what he meant, uh, by that. It was evil, uh, you know, Jim Crow, et cetera, et cetera.
00:36:02.160
But if you look at the numbers on specifics, family, et cetera, et cetera, blacks were doing better
00:36:09.040
as families before the great society. And I think that undoing is absolutely, um,
00:36:16.820
is absolutely tied to it. And it was intentional myself. I believe that. Um, also the next claim
00:36:24.280
is that, uh, that, uh, Charlie Kirk said black women have inferior intelligence. Uh, no, that's
00:36:30.520
not what he said. Now they're quoting him saying that black women don't have the brain processing
00:36:35.720
power to otherwise be taken really seriously. How, how bad does your image have to be of people
00:36:46.040
on the other side to believe that they could say that that Charlie Kirk could say that?
00:36:50.940
I mean, just like, but if you were to, you know, I think about this a lot of times when
00:36:55.060
I think about how we react to crazy statements on the left, like my reaction, a lot of times
00:37:01.000
when I hear someone saying that is, wait a minute. Yes. He, even if they believe that they
00:37:06.960
wouldn't just blurt it out. What, what is the context of this? I want to know. I want to
00:37:10.780
understand that should be your first question when you want to do a quote like that.
00:37:14.360
Go to Snopes. They rate this one. True. This is true. They read, they rate it. Absolutely
00:37:18.700
true. Until you get to the last paragraph when they say, well, no, we should point out
00:37:24.960
he wasn't talking about all black women. Okay. He was talking about four specific black
00:37:30.420
women. Oh, okay. Oh, so sorry about Joy Reed. Absolutely true. Sheila Jackson Lee. Absolutely
00:37:38.940
true. Ketanji Brown Jackson, Jackson Brown. Absolutely true. Well, she's not a biologist.
00:37:46.280
I mean, come on. She's not. She doesn't know how to, what a, what a woman is. I'm not a
00:37:49.640
biologist. I don't know how to do that. Yeah. Um, and Michelle Obama, which I don't think
00:37:54.560
is true. I think Michelle Obama is actually, uh, rather smart and conniving and, and just
00:37:59.780
flat out evil. Yeah. There's a mix there. I mean, I, Ketanji Brown Jackson, you know, for
00:38:03.700
all, for all of the flaws I would have with her as a Supreme court justice, obviously
00:38:06.820
isn't a moron, but she is, I mean, well, I would say Sotomayor, you could, I would be
00:38:11.880
more confident in saying she's a moron though. I am for, for the job that she has. Ketanji
00:38:17.700
Brown Jackson is a moron. Uh, you know, Joy Reed is a complete idiot. Uh, was it Sheila
00:38:23.460
Jackson Lee? Yeah. Again, those two, I think would fall into the same category. And you're
00:38:27.240
right. Michelle Obama, I would not, I would not call an idiot. Um, but you know, again,
00:38:31.960
criticizing four members of a group does not mean you're criticizing the group. He, he
00:38:38.740
was criticizing people he thought, uh, were unqualified to make statements of, of any
00:38:45.940
intelligence on whatever topic it was that he was talking about. And what they did is
00:38:51.060
they said, he thinks that all black women are just dumb. I mean, that is so incredibly
00:38:56.180
dishonest. Um, Charlie Kirk said that gun deaths, unfortunately worth it to keep the
00:39:01.940
second amendment. This is, this is one I've heard actually a lot. This is one that a lot
00:39:06.800
of people on the left are using as justification for their celebration. He said, you know, uh,
00:39:14.620
well, you just got to deal with the deaths if you want to have a second amendment. And I,
00:39:19.800
you know, I don't know if you have the context. I have, I have, I have his answer right here.
00:39:23.900
Ready? You will never live in a society where you have an armed citizenry and you won't have
00:39:29.660
a single gun death. That's nonsense. It's drivel, but I am, um, uh, I think it's worth it. I think
00:39:38.600
it's worth to have a cost of unfortunately some gun deaths every single year. So you can have the
00:39:46.280
second amendment right to protect your other God given rights. It's a prudent deal. It is rational
00:39:52.780
to think that way. I mean, and every time if you have a free society, you take risks with it. There
00:40:00.880
will always be people, horrible, horrible human beings that all seem to donate to Democrat causes
00:40:06.500
that will do things like we saw one week ago today. And that is, you know, I, I, again, I can't,
00:40:15.820
you can't speak for Charlie Kirk. He spoke for himself so eloquently, but you know, he, this,
00:40:20.900
what, what, even what occurred last week would not change his mind on that. He even, even he would
00:40:27.220
not say, well, we should, now that something terrible has happened to me and my family,
00:40:30.920
we should overturn the second amendment and people shouldn't have a right to defend themselves.
00:40:35.400
You know, that's how he would feel about it. And he, this is, if anything, pointing to his
00:40:40.580
incredible consistency on the rights that we have in this country. Uh, you know, it is a sad,
00:40:47.660
sad, unfortunate fact about so many things. It's a sad, unfortunate fact about automobile travel
00:40:52.400
that you do have to deal with some automobile accidents when you have, uh, highways where you
00:40:57.780
can drive 55, 65, 75 miles an hour. We all understand that. It's unreasonable. It's unreasonable
00:41:03.380
to think that you could live in a, in a, uh, a society with automobiles and not have some automobile
00:41:09.900
accidents. It is absolutely true. That is exactly what he said about guns. And frankly, the other thing
00:41:15.080
that's important here to understand is if you did eliminate all guns, you would not eliminate all
00:41:21.040
murders. Even if they did in, they did in England. Oh, they did. They're all set. They're all set.
00:41:26.380
There's no murder there. No violent crimes there. I keep reading about them. Is that all false?
00:41:31.400
It's all false. That's, you know, that's, yeah, that's Donald Trump. You know what I mean?
00:41:35.380
Yeah. And it is crazy. Last one, Charlie used an Asian slur. Now I'm not going to use the slur.
00:41:41.920
Obviously, I'm just going to say it's what happens sometimes with armor. Uh, there's a
00:41:47.860
very famous saying about armor that has nothing to do with the Chinese or Asian at all. Um, but
00:41:54.960
I'm not even going to put those together in this, in this context now for you. Uh, you'll
00:41:58.940
have to figure that out. Um, but, uh, the, the thing that's going around is he used that
00:42:04.880
slur to yell at an Asian woman in the audience. Now, again, what kind of monster or how should
00:42:12.920
you should know on, on its face? That's false. Yeah. You shouldn't even have to look it up.
00:42:16.300
I mean, how stupid would Charlie Kirk have to be? Okay. Um, and so, you know, there's,
00:42:22.260
there's nothing, uh, there's nothing like that. Well, I'm sorry. He was screaming something
00:42:27.460
at a woman, uh, when they were talking about capitalism and he was yelling sank.
00:42:40.280
Not the other word. Okay. Okay. Say, and who is that from the young Turk guy from young
00:42:45.680
Turk. Right. Yeah. That's, that's what he was, that's what he was saying. Oh, okay. Gosh.
00:42:50.740
I mean, that's just so bad. You know, like the, uh, the other one was the Stephen King,
00:42:55.360
uh, situation where he quoted some horrible thing that Charlie Kirk said. And again, he admitted
00:43:00.940
eventually, uh, that, that it was false, but it was, it was, uh, he was quoting someone
00:43:06.840
else, uh, in an incident and, and critiquing that position, uh, which was a bad position,
00:43:14.100
but he was, that was, he was bringing it up to quote it and critique it, which is a very
00:43:17.560
standard thing that they've done on the left. I mean, this is a standard, uh,
00:43:20.480
tactic of media matters when you're quoting someone else or you're saying something they'll,
00:43:24.420
they'll act as if you say, you repeat a lie often enough and the public will re will remember it.
00:43:29.080
Glenn Beck is quoting Hitler. Glenn Beck loves Hitler. Yeah. Hitler said that, but that's not who,
00:43:35.200
that's not what I was saying. It had nothing to do with the conversation for the love of Pete.
00:43:39.120
Again, if you had something against Charlie Kirk, you wouldn't need to go to this stuff.
00:43:43.460
If, if, if, if our opinion of Kirk, which was a guy who, who worked hard to debate people,
00:43:50.480
who tried to practice politics and civic life, the right way, who tried to be a shining light for
00:43:57.860
his faith, which was vitally important to him and his family. If that vision of Charlie Kirk was false,
00:44:03.460
you wouldn't need to go to these things. No, you could come up with 50 different things. He said
00:44:07.880
that were really offensive. Yep. Instead, what you come up with are lies because that's what you're in
00:44:13.060
the business of. And, uh, there is a problem. The, we now know, um, and we'll have more on this, uh,
00:44:20.700
later today on the Charlie Kirk show and then, uh, on tomorrow. Uh, but, um, we now know that the
00:44:27.260
Chinese and Russia are involved with disinformation campaigns based on Charlie Kirk, trying to get us
00:44:33.680
to push us into civil war and we know it for a fact now. So just be very careful what you read
00:44:39.420
online and, um, and don't necessarily repeat everything that you see.