Best of The Program ｜ Guests： Rep. Chip Roy, State Sen. Jerry Sonnenberg, & Siva Raj and Autumn Looijen ｜ 3⧸11⧸21
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Shiva Raj and Autumn Loyan are the co-founders of Recall San Fransisco School Board, a group trying to recall the school board in their home town of San Francisco, California. They talk about why they started the group, why they got involved, and why they think the current school board is out of control.
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hey happy anniversary it's the one year anniversary uh for the who coming out and saying panic uh it
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was a pandemic and we spent a little time today in the podcast talking about how we felt a year
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ago compared to now we're gonna actually celebrate the anniversary uh next week uh that's when all
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the lockdowns actually happen do we have to get a tree and garland and tinsel i've already ordered
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the cake okay i've already ordered the cake so happy anniversary yeah america and the lockdown
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um on the podcast uh today you're gonna get a lot of great uh news and information we talked to chip
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roy about what's happening on the border it's completely out of control uh sorry i feel a
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little about joe biden here i know what am i doing what am i doing we talk about joe biden and the
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lack of press conferences and why that's happening we also have a a senator from denver from colorado
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who is talking about this new bill to have a state level i don't even know what it is
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communications board that is going to look for uh any fake news any conspiracy theories and they have
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a a real hammer if you're spreading any of that online and that could be blaze could be accused of
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that cbs could be accused of that you'd get a five thousand dollar fine every day and if you have an
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we've all heard about the recall of gavin newsom but in san francisco there's a group trying to
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recall the school board san francisco schools are out of control and have been out of control
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all during this pandemic uh it doesn't seem like they're trying to reopen their schools just rename
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many of their schools uh two parents decided to uh go and listen to what the school board was doing
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and they didn't like what they saw and we have them both on the phone shiva raj and uh autumn loyan
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she is the they both are the co-founders of recall san francisco school board welcome to the program
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thank you thank you for having us you bet so um uh autumn let's start with you
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what was why did you do this why did you get involved what was the first thing that you saw
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that you were like we gotta stop just sitting on our hands we moved here in december from other
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school districts and i think for me it was the contrast between the way the school board behaved
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in my kids school district and the way um the school board here behaves the way it treats parents
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and the way it communicates with parents is totally different and it really bugs me when the people
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in charge don't take care of and listen to the people who are their constituents so raj they
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actually they humiliate uh people who question anything they they're doing don't they yeah it's been
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really kind of stunning to see them treat parents um push parents away literally i mean i worked on
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school side councils i volunteered in schools uh and usually schools are like desperate for parents
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to help out and you know in san francisco parents have been really really eager to roll up our
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sleeves and help out in every shape possible you know we are happy to kind of you know move into
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the schools clean them up you know do up the windows etc we know that there is a lot of change
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that's required for the pandemic uh for safety and we are happy to kind of get involved but they've
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been pushing us away they've treated parents who volunteered for example there was a gay parent
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uh who volunteered to be on the parent advisory council which is 50 empty um and they spent two
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hours just criticizing him in public without even giving him a chance to speak it was just stunning
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they also and this one drives me nuts because i hear this from all kinds of um quote-unquote experts
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that the mental health issues are not a problem i know i'm dealing with mental health issues with my
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kids who have not not been in school up until recently and you can't do that to children you
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can't really do that to people we are we are social by nature uh and in san francisco they completely
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deny this right i think it's you know my oldest son is is a freshman in high school and his school
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experience is just very different he stares into a blank screen all his uh classmates have the
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cameras turned off right right and so i've seen him actually borderline depressed um he does his
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entire school from his bed and it's just you know for a parent it's just shattering to see that and he
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just seems to have lost entirely his desire to learn and he's a good student i mean he used to play
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football um he was very active and extroverted so you know it's just like a complete change in him
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and yeah we're seeing you know the for example one of the commissioners in the school board just as
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recently as february was quoted in you know san francisco chronicle saying you know men the school
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closures don't cause mental health issues they don't cause learning loss and it's just stunning to see
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again that there's no recognition it's one thing to say that hey you know we have a pandemic we have
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to like account for the safety and we have to do get this right to get kids back uh we recognize that
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there are real challenges that both parents and students and teachers are facing and we want to do
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the right thing for everyone it's one thing to say that and you know all of us would have totally
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supported the school board if that was the kind of attitude we saw but the it's been the exact
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opposite they seem to be completely blind to and unwilling to recognize the real challenges that
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students and parents are facing in the school district so autumn what is that what is the why i mean
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there's there's zero public schools in san francisco that were approved free for reopening
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as of uh february 26th zero yeah yeah i believe as of today they have got six out of 108
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so what what was the motivation why were they i mean you charged that they they never had any
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intention at all to open schools this year why i think it just honestly i think it just looks like
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such a big problem they threw up their hands and they're like let's just pretend it doesn't exist
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i don't know why else you would do that when it's your responsibility to take care of so many
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children and get them back to school so they can learn i don't know why else you would not have
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the school sites ready by you know january at the very least when the schools were originally
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slated to reopen so you guys went to a school board meeting you listened to it and then you started a
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i think a facebook page if i'm not mistaken and there are four or five hundred uh families now and
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parents that are involved in this recall and what has happened so far what changes have you seen just
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so we have um our facebook group is actually a group for organizing our volunteers and we have over
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700 people in there we have this army of volunteers who help us whenever we want to learn more about an
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issue um or that sort of thing yeah and um so do you want to talk about the movement you've seen
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i'm sorry go ahead what was that question did you ask me a question no no i was i was thinking if
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you ever wanted to speak too much much going on since um since our recall effort started and uh
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since the school board has also been sued right kind of at the same time yes um we have seen a little
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bit of movement um they are talking about reopening now they are saying that reopening is their first
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priority and they're kind of shelving the other issues for now um and those other those other
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issues are like the renaming of schools yes okay um and that um and so we've seen um i think on april 12th
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a few kids are slated to go back in a few schools so it's not all the great it's like i think at 12
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schools um there's a couple grades that are going back um
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so that's that's a little bit of progress so i just read a story about a couple in los angeles
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or a group of parents now that we're meeting uh with barry weiss formerly of the new york times and
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they were talking about you know you can't use our names you can't put us you know you know on the
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record because we will lose our kids will suffer from this there will be a campaign against us did that
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ever concern you or cross your mind well you know one of the things we saw very early on when we're
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exploring the recall which is about you know early in feb after we kind of realized how deep the deep
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the issues were with the board is that we saw a lot of parents um supportive a lot of people in the
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city supportive non-parents too right but very few people were actually keen to put their names on a
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recall because they were afraid and that's understandable you know i i'm afraid i have two kids in the
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school district and i kind of worry about how they'll get treated if this is not successful
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right isn't that i mean that should be successful it and it that shouldn't you shouldn't be afraid i
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mean you shouldn't be afraid of holding elected leaders accountable right i mean i i that should
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tell you everything you need to know on why you need to stand up if you're afraid now at this shift
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towards this kind of rule if you will you're going to be terrified in 10 years you can't let this sit
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you you have to stand up or do you think people are becoming more willing to or we've seen a lot of
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support for the recall so autumn kind of talked about some of that we've seen over 8 000 people sign up
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um you know we've had you know 30 people put their names on a petition that we just filed
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with the uh city and that note that notice has been sent to each of the three board members who
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are eligible for recall right now um you know who are kind of our focus at this point um and so so
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actually so there is a growing and as people see that others are also interested there's hundreds in
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the facebook group there is growing talk across the city you know we're seeing people like feeling
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more comfortable um you know talking about it to their friends and to their neighbors etc so we had
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a lot of enthusiasm from people saying hey you know if we have about 7 000 people sign up but if
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every one of those 10 every one of those 7 000 just got 10 signatures which is essentially our ask
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we will hit the 70 000 we need to you know get the recall on the ballot well i am so glad to see you
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guys uh do this and to lead this and to start to lead the way courage is contagious and that's why i
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wanted to have you on we may not agree on all the issues but uh right people have to yeah that's
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exactly right and people have to stand up for one another and their freedom of speech and uh and stop
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this madness of this local authoritarian style ruling thank you so much i appreciate thank you for having
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you bet uh if you want to go to their website it's recalls a recall s f school board dot org
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uh and you can also follow them on twitter at recall s f b o e um we also have a glennbeck.com
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something that you need to look at we have a bunch of groups that you can join all around the country
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we have um people that are focusing on the teachers unions some of them are focusing on school boards
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some of them are focusing on parents we must make this a priority the there is poison being
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shoveled into our children if the schools aren't back yet why why are they not back yet
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they have destroyed a year of our children's learning and education they have set them
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way back how much has this cost us in in their future abilities when they're 18 years old
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nobody's talking about that nobody's talking about the the physical damage that is being done
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not only the mental all kinds of damage is being done and then when they do open up they're
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shoveling garbage into them this critical race theory if you happen to be against that we'll help
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you uh start working together and start uh networking with people in your own area and people who have
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done this and we're also working on a few things to help you with attorneys if you start to have real
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we uh have now colorado colorado state senator jerry sonnenberg hello jerry how are you
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good afternoon or morning sir it's a pleasure to be with you from the petri dish of the democrat party
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throw stuff against the wall here to see if it works so they before they go nationwide what
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happened to colorado it well i mean it was a state that i would have loved to live in it is beautiful
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there and it's gone crazy it it has it uh it is uh it has turned into the middle coast of the east and
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west coast uh liberal bend and uh uh we're struggling here in colorado and what's happening
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with uh with all the attacks on our freedoms and liberty so it's it's not liberal this is gone
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this is insane now what they're talking about there is a new bill out i know you're aware of it senate
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bill 21 132 for a digital communications division tell me what this bill actually is
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well the interesting part is the bill is being run by the person that wants to take out congressman
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bobert uh that has announced for that congressional district and what she wants to do is allow the
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governor to appoint a five member commission with no requirements on political balance no requirements
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on any balance whatsoever and then that commission has the ability to determine what is
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uh uh uh hate speech what is fake news uh they make all of those determinations and then confine you
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they can also set up fees to all social media platforms which quite frankly might even include
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uh uh blogs after a news story uh from uh from a media uh whenever somebody makes a comment on social
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media that would be regulated by this commission i mean is there outrage in colorado about this i mean
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this this does seem stall and that it absolutely uh there there is outrage from my side of the aisle
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but it's interesting that it's not being condemned uh or pushed back against by our governor uh or
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leadership in either chamber uh they're just kind of letting it slide i don't know if they're supportive
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but they sure haven't come out and opposed it so you got to assume that they support this type of effort
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of squashing our first amendment uh uh rights free speech by their silence well i i will tell you
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they're serious about it in washington dc why wouldn't they be serious about it you know in colorado is
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there is there any chance this passes i honestly don't think so but you know it depends yeah here's
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what i'll tell you it's 2021 democrats yeah the democrats have not come out and said they oppose it
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they have not come out and said that this is bad policy so i don't know if it will die or not
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i the truth is i'd like to have it i hope it lives through committee and actually gets to the senate floor
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so we have a discussion and we can hear all of the democrats talk about how they want to squash free
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speech i don't think that'll happen i actually think if if their leadership is smart they can't afford
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to let this go to the floor uh they have to kill this attack on our first amendment as is there any
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pushback from the people of colorado on things like critical race are you hearing from parents or
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or anybody about trying to stand the line against some of these things
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uh absolutely and interestingly enough uh uh colorado rural colorado especially has become
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outraged uh where they have been tried to stay isolated just do their work in agriculture and
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those type of things have now become outraged and and are rallying and getting involved uh so
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colorado especially the rural parts of the state have been awakened and uh i want to say that they
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probably have awakened the sleeping giant uh even though they're small in numbers uh they will have a
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strong strong strong voice as this moves forward i will tell you it is the giant cities and the
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cities with all the universities and usually the state capital that becomes so infected and they are
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leaving all of the people in uh the rural areas way behind it's it's i mean you think if you listen to
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the media it's that we can't talk to one another uh and i don't know if that's necessarily true
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but with the policies that are being pushed now by the extreme far uh left and what's happening in
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washington we don't have much left in common uh if you're in a big city and you're talking to
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somebody who lives in you know rural colorado or rural wyoming or texas you just you don't understand
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each other uh you're exactly right uh it wasn't that long ago that uh our urban cousins had a
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generation that was still on the farm whether it was an uncle or a grandparent out in rural areas of
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some state so they had some tie we don't have that anymore and interestingly enough uh the voice is
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shrinking because you look at as as legislators are based on population i represent alone in my senate
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district 20 percent of the entire land mass of colorado that makes it very hard to get a rural
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message to my urban cousins and the urban legislators it is uh if you're if you're running you know
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representing 20 percent of the land mass uh you have to be affected by what the government is doing
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with blm land and and the gobbling up of of state land that they've been told twice by the supreme court
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to send it back to the states it belongs to the states there's no intention of doing anything
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except at what it seems to me roping that land off and not allowing the states to do anything with it
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uh absolutely and what we're seeing now is uh the attempts to try and uh benefit all of the country
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through mineral production uh on federal lands uh that's being shut down as well so uh and then you
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can see it at the gas pump uh gas now is 70 cents higher than it was in january here in colorado
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uh i mean it's pretty easy to figure out what that's attributed to yeah thank you so much jerry
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i appreciate it that is uh state senator jerry sonnenberg from colorado uh and uh if you see
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any movement on this senator if you wouldn't mind just uh reaching out in case we miss it otherwise
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we'll be watching it as well and reach back out to you absolutely i look forward to talking to you
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again soon thank you and i'll keep you informed you bet
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this is the glenbeck program congressman uh chip roy is quickly working his way up on the glenbeck
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program favorite congresspeople uh list uh welcome to the program chip how are you sir
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well no not everybody we we don't have a very long list to be on the list really it's like it's an
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honor just to be nominated um um but uh let's talk about what's happening on our southern border
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uh and i would like to just put this out there i'd sure like to go down with you and a camera crew
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uh and uh and see and show what's really happening on the border especially with those cages which i
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talked about during the obama administration it's not getting better it's getting worse
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well glenn you're absolutely right and and i'm happy to take up on that in fact i got a trip coming
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up in a few days uh happy to talk to your producer see if that works if not we might have some more
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coming up in the future you know the district i represent gets within about 100 miles of the
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district my friend tony gonzalez obviously has a whole bunch of it but i'm going to be going down
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to you know laredo i'm going to be going down to uh mcallen brown so look for your listeners i mean
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most your listeners are well informed they know how bad it is but it but however bad they think it is
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it's worse um and it's all purposeful this is this is president biden either purposely and and and
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you know willingly seeking to avoid his constitutional duty to secure the border in order to get some
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crass political gain out of seeming like they're compassionate um or it's frankly just wrote
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incompetence on his part uh and inability to comprehend how bad his policies are endangering
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the american people empowering cartels and glenn i'll say this as believers as people of faith
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you know we we're compassionate for the immigrants who seek to come here i know you are i've heard you
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talk about it so am i and we've got people who are being used as political pawns who are being
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endangered children families women and children being endangered and abused by cartels on the
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journey and now you've got these these facilities packed with unaccompanied children in a whole and
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in packed in there because of the policies of biden which by the way they were mocking the last two or
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three years president trump's policies which he was doing to exercise to minimize the danger and
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push back and work with mexico and use title 42 to stop the flow what we have right now is a hundred
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thousand apprehensions in february that is an extraordinary number so you have that confirmed
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now because i heard that they hadn't come out with a number yet you can confirm that hundred thousand
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i can confirm that both from sources that i know full well but it's probably even more than that but
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also cbc put out officially yesterday the number that it was over 100 000 now here's the number that's
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not public and not official but i'll tell you people in dhs sources that they have had uh about
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11 000 people were caught and released in january and february because of overcrowded facilities they're
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literally just catching releasing they're turning dhs into essentially a welcome center in which cartels
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are empowered and people are then uh you know abused in the process and frankly uh it's it's it's
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disgusting what the biden administration is doing the mexican even the mexican officials have come out
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just recently and you know they were not a fan necessarily of trump and all of his policies
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uh but they even said america has got to get this under control it is empowering and it's becoming a
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bigger business and a bitty bigger money maker for the drug cartels than drugs well and the worst part
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about it is is you're absolutely right they're moving they're profiting obscenely moving human beings
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for profit like seven thousand dollars a head sometimes twenty thousand depending on where they
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come from in the world and then you've got the drug problem that is now exacerbated made worse
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because our border patrol are being turned into caretakers trying to figure out how to manage all
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these people in these facilities and their eyes are off the the ball in terms of between ports of entry
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and now they're moving vast quantities of narcotics fentanyl and now we've got an addiction problem in this
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country the opioid addiction which gets worse because cartels are exploiting it and running
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uh these dangerous narcotics uh through our border all because biden wants to say in the false name
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of compassion that his policies are somehow pro-immigrant and it's a lie it's a dangerous lie
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and and look in texas we're feeling it high speed chases uh people's homes getting broken into
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the mayor of del rio you know put out a plea to the biden administration this is a hispanic democrat
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in del rio saying mr president please do your job to secure the border uh henry cuellar uh vicente
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gonzalez these are congressmen from texas who are you know saying to the president your
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administration is failing and not doing your job to actually do what needs to be done to make the
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border work so um it's it's unfortunate but i think and hopefully the american people are going to see
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it but of course the mainstream media they're not going to report it like they were when uh allegory
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was down there lying about kids drinking out of toilets or kids in cages so so congressman why
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is is biden uh not aware is he is he plugged into enough stuff or is there something else going on
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you know and this is i think 64 000 question the joe biden of a decade ago however liberal that
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he is and was and he was you and i have opposed him for you know decades but i don't think the
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biden of a decade ago and in fact if you look at the policies under obama biden as bad as they were
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they were nothing like this i think that he is being uh bullied and frankly just steamrolled
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because of frankly a certain level of either competence or engagement that isn't there at
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least as it used to be and that now the policies are frankly really troubling because i don't think
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an american president would ever willingly look at this border and say to the american people it's
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secure there is no crisis but he's allowing his dhs secretary to say that and he's he's he's frankly
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this is the guy who two days ago referred to the secretary of defense as that guy who runs that
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outfit over there i mean this is extremely troubling and and i think that what we're seeing right now is
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the radical lefts take advantage of a weak president and use it to jam through an unbelievably horrid
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agenda for crass political purposes and the blood is on their hands for doing it so this is why people
00:29:47.000
uh have dropped listening to news they've they've uh they're just they're unplugging because the
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problems are getting way too big uh and it doesn't seem like anybody is either interested in doing
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something or um people like you can't can't get things can't get things rammed through because even
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your own party at times doesn't support the ideas of of uh people that believe in the constitution
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what is the solution here well you're not wrong about uh frankly that some of the default falls
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on republicans who for too long were ignoring the problem at the border instead of doing what we
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should have done when we have majorities to do it but here we sit and we're looking at what's
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happening and so what we need to do is be faithful people know that now that that that the veil is
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being lifted for the american people they're seeing the radical left on full display not just at our
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borders but at our schools where teachers unions are getting paid not to work or to teach america
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teach our kids that america's evil the veil is being lifted we got a target 2022 and 2024 and right
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now turn to your governors turn to your states make them particularly border states and texas is one
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obviously that i'm proud to live in and and you know governor abbott mentioned or launched his
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lone star project last week to try to you know empower dps remember during the obama years texas spent
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almost a billion dollars working to try to secure the border ourselves using dps even though it's a full
00:31:12.340
federal responsibility states are going to need to start pushing back on a federal government that
00:31:16.420
is not just ignoring the borders but they're trying to take your guns away they're defunding police
00:31:20.720
there's passing two trillion dollar bills that remake your health care system they're running away from
00:31:25.600
israel they're empowering iran they're moving a radical agenda across that green agenda coming
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right down our throats uh in the bureaucracy so we're going to fight at the state level and the
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american people need to make this uh fix this in 2022 uh congressman anything we can do to help you
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you please let us know uh the audience is eager for something that actually will make a difference and
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i've been preaching to this you know the same uh the same message uh from this pulpit every day that
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it has to be fixed locally uh and every state has to stand against this onslaught what was passed in
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hr1 is completely unconstitutional completely unconstitutional and that stops anything from
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happening in 2022 or 2025 or four well and glenn let me just say to any of your listeners out there
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in west virginia arizona and other states with senators that need to listen burn their phones
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down that they not pass hr1 that they not get rid of the filibuster and they hold the line on this
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ridiculous federalization of our elections and if you're in a state like texas or frankly any state
00:32:31.780
pennsylvania georgia wisconsin arizona any of the places that had issues last year burn down the
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doors of your legislative the phones of your legislators to make sure they know you want to
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see election reform at the state level too we're going to fight hr1 we'll keep fighting we'll get
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back in power in 2022 and try to fix some of this but states need to lead the way so get them to pass
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legislation we're working on an effort to do that and set the principles out to encourage states to
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fix this representative chip roy from the great state of texas and washington dc stay safe my
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friend thank you so much god bless you go on take it