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Glenn Beck sits down with Tucker Carlson and talks about the interview he did with him, then talks with Jim Jordan about his inquiry into the Sweetheart Deal. There's more shoes to drop in the Hunter Biden investigation, and we talk to Chadwick Moore, the author of Tucker Carlson's new biography on Tucker, and Jonathan Isaac, the former NBA player for the Orlando Magic and author of Why I Stand.
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We are going to be talking about Devin Archer and going over the interview that he just did with Tucker Carlson.
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He is looking into some new things and also seems to have an inquiry into the Sweetheart Hunter deal, the plea deal.
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He's looking into that and wants some additional information.
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There's more shoes to drop in the Hunter Biden investigation.
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He is the author of Tucker, a new biography on Tucker Carlson that you don't want to miss a second.
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Also, Jonathan Isaac, the NBA basketball player for the Orlando Magic.
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He's the author of Why I Stand, and he is launching a new clothing line, shoe line called Unitas.
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We talk to him about investing in products that celebrate our values.
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You're listening to The Best of the Glenn Beck Program.
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You know, I was having dinner with a couple of friends last night, and your name came up,
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and we are so grateful that you got the job that you did.
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And you're doing just an amazing, amazing work.
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Okay, so let's talk a little bit about what's going on.
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Let's start with the inquiry into the sweetheart deal.
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And, you know, the key part of that transcript, I would encourage all your listeners to read
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that transcript, because you can, like, you know how you read this, you get inside the
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And it was particularly when she asked, has there ever been a deal like this before?
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And the government lawyer, the DOJ lawyer says, no, Your Honor, never been a deal like
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this, because what they tried to do was put the, I think, the sort of immunity agreement
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they had with the handshake and a wink between the defense attorneys and the DOJ attorneys,
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they put it in the diversion part of the agreement, not in the plea deal itself, which the judge
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And then you couple that with what we learned with David Weiss and the fact that he has said
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three different things in a five-week time frame, three different letters about what
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The IRS whistleblower story that came forth, their testimony was consistent and, frankly,
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So that, to me, I think just shows how wrong this agreement was and why the judge says, time
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We're going to get this right if we're going to do it at all.
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Jim, be more generous than Mother Teresa would be on the answer to this question.
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I mean, try to really give the benefit of the doubt here.
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The press keeps saying, you know, all these accusations, but so far there's been no evidence
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So, first, you have Tony Bobulinski, two and a half years ago, business partner of Hunter
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Biden, saying that that email that says that the big guy, 10% for the big guy, that, in
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We know that email came from the laptop that the FBI has now admitted is real.
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They knew it was real at the time and didn't tell us, but they've now admitted that the
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Then you have the WhatsApp message where, from that, which says, Hunter Biden says, I'm sitting
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Then you have the 1023 form, which you have the folks from Burisma saying, confidential human
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source, saying he's talked to foreign nationals who talk about this payment for policy decision.
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And then, of course, you have the testimony we got Monday from Devin Archer, where he talks
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about the meeting in Dubai, December 4th, 2015, the meeting in Dubai between Archer, Hunter
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Zolachevsky and Pazarsky are the guys who run Burisma.
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They say in that meeting with the two guys, Archer and Hunter Biden, they say, we need the
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We're under all kinds of pressure, pressure from the Ukrainian prosecutor, pressure in Great
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Britain, where they've seized 23 million of our assets.
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We got all kinds of pressure five days later, literally five days later, Joe Biden is in
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He gives a speech criticizing the prosecutor in Ukraine, which begins to lay the foundation
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for what happens a few months later, which is where the prosecutor is fired in order for
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So those are the things that keep kind of piling up, not to mention the suspicious activity
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reports, the number of different companies moving money in and out of and paying all kinds
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The Democrats say this illusion of access, that sure doesn't look like an illusion.
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It looks like some pretty compelling facts to me.
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They keep saying that Joe Biden hasn't gotten any money, which I haven't seen any proof that
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However, we do know that Hunter was paying dad's bills.
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We know that Hunter said in text on the laptop to the rest of his family, dad takes 50% of
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We know that the shell corporations that have no, they have no experience in any of the stuff
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And we know the money was going in suspiciously earmarked by the banks as looks like money
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How difficult is it to tie it together legally?
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You know, one of the things that came out after the Devin Archer interview on Monday was
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the Democrats said, well, you know, there was these multiple times where Hunter Biden
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puts his dad on the phone and it's with business partners and clients and people they're doing
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business with, but they never really talked about any, they never talked about business.
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Well, I didn't expect them to, for goodness sake.
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I think the key was what Devin Archer testified to.
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He said the value Hunter Biden brought to the business arrangement was the Biden brand.
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And the Biden brand, he was clear about this, the Biden brand is Joe Biden.
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And so, of course, he's not going to talk about business.
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He's going to put, hey, guys, say hello to the vice president.
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That was the value in and of itself right there.
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And of course, the White House's story has changed, just like David Weiss's story has changed.
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The White House said, no, the president had no involvement, never talked to, never was involved,
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And of course, that story has changed now over time as well.
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Now, is there any chance, again, being Mother Teresa, is there any chance that the sitting
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vice president calls in and is introduced to a meeting of the leaders of Burisma and he's
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And he doesn't know that one of the guys that leads Burisma is one of the most violent oligarchs
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I don't think so, because our State Department knew that.
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Our State Department initially had concerns about Burisma and Hunter Biden's involvement.
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That came out in the impeachment, the crazy impeachment they tried on President Trump four
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And oh, by the way, that meeting in Dubai on December 4th, 2015, there was also a phone
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Now, this is interesting how Devin Archer explained this.
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He said there was a phone call, but he wasn't a part of that phone call.
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He was on a different part of the hotel, a different part of the deck, he said.
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And they were on another part of the deck there at the Four Seasons.
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Devin Archer said, I don't know who it was to, but it was to D.C.
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And of course, we'll have to try to figure that one out.
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So dad just calls in once in a while, or he or, you know, the son calls dad during dinner
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If he's having dinner over in Europe, dinner meetings, it's probably eight, nine o'clock
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over in Europe, is dad just awake calling his son at three o'clock in the morning?
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I mean, the time difference is never talked about here.
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And yeah, I would say like what Dubai would probably be like a nine hour difference, I'm
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Yeah, it's probably early, certainly early in the morning.
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That's something that probably in the course of our investigation, we'll have to dig into
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Now, but there was also, understand, there was also meetings in D.C. with dinner meetings
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with Hunter Biden and his business partners, the Cafe Milano in Georgetown, as Mr. Archer
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There were meetings in D.C., I think 2014, 2015, and one of those dinners, and Joe Biden
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It wasn't just a drop by, you know, it wasn't just like the phone call, hey, say hello,
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where he drops by, shakes him, hands, and leave.
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Mr. Archer said he stayed for the entire dinner.
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And at one of those dinners, of course, you have Elena Baturina, who was the wealthiest
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woman in Russia, wife of the former mayor of Moscow, who had paid Hunter Biden significant
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several million dollars, and she's there for the entire dinner as well.
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So that, I think, is interesting, interesting fact.
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And that's something that they said he didn't do.
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But of course, Mr. Archer said, yes, in fact, he was there for the entire dinner.
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There was an interesting article written by Joel Pollack that I saw this morning that
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they are talking that we should be pushing to have Congress nullify the first impeachment
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of Donald Trump, because the whole thing was he was trying to, you know, get the president
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of Ukraine to look into what the dirty dealings were.
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And it looks now like, no, there was a really good reason to ask for that.
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I think it's Congresswoman Stefanik, and I forget who else is sponsoring that.
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But yeah, we should we that I'm totally for that.
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And remember, that was an impeachment based on an anonymous whistleblower with no firsthand
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knowledge, who was who had a bias, bias against the president, and who had previously
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That was the source that we couldn't know this whistleblower.
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Compare that to Gary Shapley and Mr. Ziegler and how they stood up under pressure in a
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Their story has their testimony has been backed up by an FBI agent.
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Is it better or worse for Joe Biden than the trouble Nixon was in?
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Well, I think I think the key is we just got to keep doing our job and our job, our constitutional
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duty, frankly, is to provide oversight, do oversight, do the investigation, get the facts
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because the facts influence what kind of legislation you propose and pass and implement what you do
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with the appropriations process and how these agencies are funded.
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And just continue to do our job, bring the facts forth.
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Let me point out one thing that has happened because of oversight we've done.
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It's a different area, but I think it's important, Glenn.
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Remember when we found out Matt Taibbi was testifying in front of our committee.
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He gives them a lecture in the First Amendment, for goodness sake.
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At the very moment he's testifying, he's being attacked.
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Democrats, by the way, a Democrat member of the press being attacked.
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Did you see what the IRS announced two weeks ago?
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Before they went to his door, they were looking.
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The IRS says we will no longer be sending agents unannounced visits to Americans' homes.
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That doesn't happen but for us doing our duty, doing the oversight work we're supposed to do.
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Now, of course, the IRS says, oh, we did this for agent safety.
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They did it because they caught him playing this kind of game.
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We had a person in Ohio where they did this, and the person came to her door and used an alias.
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So, yeah, and they try to say it's because they're concerned about their agent safety.
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It was because they were harassing the American people.
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That's why you do oversight, because it can affect real change.
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Some things are happening in my world that probably should be heard.
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So I'd like to bring it to your attention off air.
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Chadwick is the author of Tucker, the new book that is out.
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So let's talk a little bit about how this came about, the biography.
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Basically, my publisher called me up and said, we want to do a book about Tucker Carlson.
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We think he's the most important and influential voice in American politics today.
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And they wanted me to write it and very honored and flattered.
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And I called up Tucker and, you know, at first he sort of was like, oh, I don't, you know, I'm not very interesting.
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And, you know, I don't think anyone want to read this book.
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And then, you know, I'd been on his show for many, many years and we knew each other that way.
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And, you know, he, he sort of said, you know, I read your columns all the time.
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And from there we were, we were off to the races.
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Now you spent about a hundred hours with him up at his home in Maine and in Florida.
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What was, what was the thing that maybe surprised you the most about his, his life?
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I think, you know, it's the fact that he isn't someone who can just talk about politics all day long.
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You know, he's very, his interests are very wide range and deep.
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And, and his level of the extent he goes to, to humble himself and to remind himself that he is not God,
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which is, you know, something that he sort of reminds himself all the time was, you know,
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really impressive and kind of a wonderful thing to get to know about him.
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You know, he's someone who he's, he's very spiritual without having overt theocratic language and,
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and theology taught to him, but he's very spiritual.
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And he does really see the current political paradigm as one versus as good versus evil,
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which I think sort of, you know, frightens a lot of people in mainstream conservatism.
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So he is, he's going through a spiritual awakening that unlike I've seen very often,
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He was raised Episcopalian, which he sort of says, you know,
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he's not even sure if that's a Christian religion anymore,
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But I certainly saw that part of him, for sure.
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And he, you know, just the way he talks about the world, you know,
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and something, you know, something about, you know, climate change, for example.
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He's very passionate about the environment, the actual environment,
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But the way he would speak of the environment and basically man's feebleness
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when it comes to something like controlling the weather,
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which can extend into, you know, man's feebleness,
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You know, there was a very spiritual language and motivation behind that
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And I certainly got to see that and to write about it.
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You were there when he left Fox, and Tucker and I have talked about it,
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In the end, with me, one of the things that Fox was very clear about
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And at the end with Tucker, he is talking more and more about what's happening
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in spiritual terms, and I know that drives Murdoch crazy.
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It may have been one of the many reasons why they wanted to get rid of him.
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And interestingly, back in February, this post-past February,
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Tucker had had dinner with Rupert Murdoch and his then-fiancee,
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and his fiancee had described Tucker as a messenger from God to Rupert.
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People around Rupert had reported that that freaked him out.
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And just the weekend before his show was taken off the air,
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when describing what was happening in American politics.
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And people have been saying for many years, and as you just said,
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that, you know, talk of God and Christianity really freaks out the Murdochs.
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So that certainly could have contributed to it.
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So when you have Tucker and he's, you know, you're with him at Fox,
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I take it he was quite surprised when they called him in and said,
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happened to be the six-year anniversary of his show moving into the 8 p.m. time slot.
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And when Suzanne Scott, the president of Fox News, called him up that day,
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he thought that she was calling to congratulate him on the anniversary.
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And instead, she simply said, we're taking your show off the air.
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They still have not given him an official explanation.
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He's still an employee of Fox News as we're speaking.
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And, you know, I got to interview him a couple times after that moment.
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And he was certainly shocked, and his entire team was.
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And, but he, you know, he knows he hasn't done anything wrong.
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He told me that, you know, if he had done something wrong,
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if he'd embarrassed himself or embarrassed his family, he'd feel badly.
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But he can't feel badly because he didn't do anything wrong as far as he can see.
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The day he was, the show was canceled, he was planning on talking about Ray Epps.
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I saw his monologue that he planned to read on air that day.
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It was heavily about Ray Epps in about January 6th.
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It was also, in a darkly ironic turn, it was about AOC and other members of government
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AOC had gone on MSNBC that weekend to basically say that Tucker should be arrested
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for spreading misinformation or whatever word she's using.
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And he was, you know, the only person in mainstream media that was really digging into
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all of these strange activities that happened on January 6th
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and really trying to investigate if the federal government was playing a role in that.
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And also this strange character, Ray Epps, who has not been arrested and has been paraded
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So that was one of many, a handful of issues that he was probably making a lot of enemies
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And it certainly could have contributed to or been the reason why his show was taken off
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So there, the Devin Archer interview that he did last night on Twitter or X or whatever
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I don't mean this in the way I would normally mean this.
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Yet he is, when you get to know him, he is anything but the elite.
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I think in many ways he is, uh, he's just a normal guy.
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And he was almost, he got Devin Archer to, to almost laugh about, like, we both know what's
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And that led to some pretty shocking revelations last night.
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I think you, you really summed it up beautifully.
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And it's interesting that the DC media wouldn't really find that stuff newsworthy.
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They don't want to report on it, but they wouldn't find it newsworthy because they live in that
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Uh, Tucker realized that, that it is normal to those people.
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It's not normal to 330 million Americans who live outside of DC.
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Um, and he drug that out of, of, of Devin Archer so masterfully and wonderfully.
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So the former head writer for Tucker, um, just tweeted Fox news decision to ignore Tucker's
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interview with Devin Archer's infuriating employees who still believe in covering news
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He got Hunter Biden's business partner to casually admit all on a Twitter video.
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Another top Fox source says the amount of agitation in this building over not being able to use
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any of Tucker and Devin Archer's sound, just tons of groaning and cursing from producers
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and a couple of anchors that it's gold and we're not allowed to touch it, use it or refer to it.
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They also didn't cover, uh, the, uh, the interviews with all of the candidates, which I think was
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game-changing, um, you know, I was sitting, uh, there at the anchor desk, watching him on stage
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as we covered it at the blaze and universally it was, this is game-changing, totally game-changing.
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Is there, is there more, there's speculation that he did a, uh, interview with Trump that
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they never aired, that he had other things from January 6th that they never allowed aired.
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That, that blaze media summit from Iowa was such amazing television or broadcasting,
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And I was watching that and I felt like even the quality of the commentary was so far beyond
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anything you would have ever seen on mainstream media.
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I'm not just trying to, you know, butter you up.
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Oh, it was, it was these commentators speaking on the level of Republican voters, like, like
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And you, it made me realize that you would never see that level of connection with voters
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So that felt like a huge turn in independent media eclipsing mainstream media.
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And then with Fox being, nobody on Fox is allowed to say the T word, Tucker.
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And, and I know that from, you know, I got kicked off Fox after I wrote this book and it
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was, uh, the fact that they use breaking news now and they can't talk about it.
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It's amazing with, with the stuff that, that Tucker did.
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So, um, there's a bunch of interviews people are talking about as far as I understand it,
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you know, Fox news owns that it's their property.
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So I don't think he can do much with it, but, uh, you know, there's certainly lots of, uh,
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more January 6th reporting that they had that, uh, they're not able to show Tucker's not
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Uh, and several other interviews related to that.
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Um, it's, it's, uh, it's amazing to watch how this is all unfolding and how Fox has really
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Uh, yeah, I think they're, I think they're over.
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I mean, I've never seen anything burned down so fast as, uh, as this.
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Well, other, other than the Biden presidency, um, you, you talk about in the book, uh, that
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Tucker emphasizes, and I'm just going to quote you here, the importance of having people around
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who see him as a person rather than a television personality.
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Well, you know, he's become such a caricature in, in, in the right, or on the left is this
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And on the right, he's also, uh, the establishment, right, sort of portrayed as reckless and dangerous.
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Um, but you know, you get to know him in his personal life and, you know, his, his relationship
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with his wife, Susie is, is really sort of a storybook, uh, as storybook as it could get.
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It's so lovely to watch them interact with one another.
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As I got to many times and, you know, they met when they were in high school and they're
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15 years old and they've been together ever since.
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Uh, and you know, Tucker has, surrounds himself with, with people he can trust his, his whole
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Uh, there was no, um, backstabbing there, you know, everyone trusted one another.
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Uh, nobody was out to subvert anyone else, uh, which is, which is rare in media and especially
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Um, and it probably because he was such a good leader and they really believed in what he was
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Uh, another reason why half the team voluntarily left Fox when he was, when his show was taken
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off the air, the other half was, um, uh, unceremoniously fired in one fell swoop, uh, last month.
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Um, but on the day, on the day of the, uh, blaze summit, he was making all kinds of news.
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And that was the day they marched everybody out after the show.
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He is the author of the new book, Tucker, uh, which was done with Tucker's knowledge,
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uh, and a real great inside look, easy to read, really well written, an inside look of Tucker
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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I wish, uh, I wish we were speaking in person, uh, just so I could tower over you and make
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you feel small, but maybe that's, maybe that's just me.
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Uh, so Jonathan, tell me about Unitas and what you've done.
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Unitas is a values-based alternative to sports and lifestyle leisure wear apparel.
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And as companies and corporations, especially in the sportswear field continue to move farther
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away from godly principles and values and constitutional principle values.
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I thought it was time to create an alternative and give freedom-loving Americans, faith-loving
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Americans, the option to buy with their values.
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So you're making, uh, leisure wear, sportswear, your shoes.
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Right now, we did our first kind of leisure wear drop, which is like hoodies, sweatpants,
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Um, and that's just what it's going to be for right now.
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You can head to WeAreUnitas, U-N-I-T-U-S, WeAreUnitas.com.
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But we have big dreams about where we're going to go.
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I want to be in every single field, every sport.
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Um, I want you to be able to go from some of these other companies and get everything
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I'm going to be dropping a sneaker, a basketball sneaker that I'll be wearing in this upcoming
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So September, October, and also our first line of sportswear, sports bras, leggings, tank
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So we're, we got a lot of things on the cusp, but I'm excited about the launch and how we're
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I have to ask you, Jonathan, just because I've learned a lot from the Smithsonian and the
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time to ask is when it's happening and not years after.
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Uh, that was what the American, uh, the, the guy who heads the American history museum
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said to me, um, I would love for my history museum.
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I don't know if you, if you know this, or if you came through our history museum, but,
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uh, we have, we're only surpassed by the national archives and the library of Congress when it
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And we have expanded so much into all kinds of things that are game changing in the United
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And I think what you're doing is truly game changing.
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I mean, you're going, you know, head to head with Nike and Adidas and everybody else.
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May I get for the museum, a prototype or a first, you know, edition of your shoes to be
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able to put into the museum right next to the Nike Betsy Ross flag, uh, uh, shoes that
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I definitely got you with that without a question.
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Um, so tell me, I mean, I love the fact that you say, uh, Unitas, it starts with you ends
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with us, but it does have knit right in the middle, which I don't know what means, but,
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uh, uh, I love, I love your slogan begins with you and ends with us.
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Um, I've been through a few things when it came to standing in the bubble and being the
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I know what it's like to stand alone or feel like you're standing alone.
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And I know that in today's day, there are so many Americans that feel the same way, but
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don't have the platform that I have, or don't have the people around them, um, that are encouraging
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So Unitas for me is uniting all of these people.
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Um, no matter what color you are, no matter what you do, if you understand the value and
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necessity of these values and you want to see them represented in the marketplace and the
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And I want you to become a part of this community.
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So when you're out and about and you see somebody wearing Unitas, you know that that person gets
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You know that they stand for the same values that they stand for.
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Um, you may disagree on other things or, or maybe not, but you know that they have a
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And that's the community that I'm trying to build.
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And I'm hoping that as time goes on, we're able to build this infrastructure of people
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So in 2020, you were the lone NBA player, not to kneel for the national anthem.
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And then we have COVID and you wouldn't take the vaccine.
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Um, it was, it was terribly scary and, you know, it's, it's died down a bunch now, but
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every time I think back about those time periods, it really was crazy.
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Um, and I'm just glad that I had the people around me to give me the confidence and trust
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I knew that true change wasn't going to come through an organization.
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Um, I felt that it was truly going to come through the gospel of Jesus Christ, that we
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could have real change if we all could see, look, we all fall short of God's glory.
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And so I decided to stand up and, and say that, and it, I got tons of negativity for it, but
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the positivity that showered from it was amazing.
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Um, I tried my best to be thoughtful and clear about my position.
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And how I felt that everyone should have the free choice to decide what they want to do
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with their bodies when it comes to the vaccine.
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So, you know, you look now at what's happening with the vaccine.
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The Pentagon just did a, uh, a study and they show that, um, uh, what is it?
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And they said that in the, with the military, they found an extraordinary, uh, out of whack
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number with young people who have myocarditis, not after the first vax, but after the second
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I mean, it's, it is, it's not common, but it does happen.
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But now you're seeing all of these sports figures and all of these young athletes.
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Is this out of whack or is it just that we're noticing it?
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I would say it's, it's, it's extremely unfortunate given the way that COVID and everything was
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Um, I know that there are plenty of people that feel, uh, I guess robbed in a sense and,
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and let down because of the things that are happening.
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Um, and who knows, you know, people are talking about it.
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Could it be, could it be, could it have been COVID could have been the vaccines.
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I know you just talked about it being a spike after the second shot.
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Um, you know, I'm not one to just lay blame and say it is what it is, but I do think that
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as time goes on, there is going to be a mass, uh, I would say just reckoning for what happened,
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um, and the way that things were handled, the pressure that people were under to get
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Um, and I think it is a disservice to the American people for what happened.
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So back to your product, Unitas, you are making shoes and are soon to be shoes, but,
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uh, sports clothing, sweats, t-shirts, polos, et cetera, et cetera.
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You, I assume you don't have any big, or do you have any big outlets that are coming to
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you and saying, Hey, we want, we want to be a pariah and stand with you.
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Uh, do you have any big outlets or is it all on online?
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It's definitely something that I'd be open to, but right now we are just direct to consumer
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Um, and I, I have again, big dreams about where we could go.
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I definitely want to have the opportunity to sponsor for colleges and, and high schools
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and things like that as we move forward, who knows?
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Um, but I'm just kind of taking it one step at a time.
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There are plenty of Christian Catholic, um, universities and high schools and stuff.
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So we're working on it, but right now it is just me.
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And, you know, we're looking for, you know, people to come on board and help support.
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And if, uh, if a big outlet wants to take us, um, to have them in their stores, we'd be
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My son has just become a, uh, college football coach.
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Um, which is shocking because I barely even know what football is, but, um, uh, I, I,
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I would love to outfit, uh, his team and the coaches with your product.
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If they would do it, I don't know if they would do it, but I would love to outfit his,
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Um, you are taking on, you're taking on everybody.
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And then you're also not making anything in China.
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Um, I know, cause I started a clothing company years ago.
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It is so hard to get things of quality made at a reasonably price at a, as a, at a reasonable
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And since I say like an absolutist in terms of like, because at the end of the day, all
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of us in some way, shape or form use things that are produced in China.
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And so I'm not necessarily from the standpoint of, okay, we can never use anything in China.
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It's, it's just, it's very hard to do for me personally.
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When it came to Unitas, I had my own conviction that I did not want to manufacture anything
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And so when it comes to the sneakers, I got hooked up with a company called SoulWorks and
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they were able to find a, an ethically operating factory in Vietnam when it came to sneakers.
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When it comes to sneakers, we are sourcing clothing material out of Peru, um, and, uh, and Turkey
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and everything is being embroidered and stitched in the United States and Chicago.
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And so it does make everything, it does make everything much harder to produce.
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And we're working on finding ways to, to mitigate some of those costs and things like
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Um, but I, I think we made the right decision by, by just saying, you know what, for this,
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especially, I know we use things, you know, produced in China all the time, but for me,
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I wanted to, I wanted to not, um, create that affiliation.
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Jonathan, I, uh, I have profound respect for you.
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I've never seen you play a game, but I have tremendous respect for what you stand for and
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the fight, uh, that you fight every day and the stand that you take.
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So congratulations on this and, uh, it has started with you and it will end with us.
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Um, that's a, another way to show Nike and everybody else.
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I mean, now there's a good product out there that you can get.
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Uh, it speaks to your values and, you know, hopefully Nike will see, uh, eventually, um,
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you know, kind of a bud light kind of action against them.
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Not because we're boycotting them just because I don't, we don't need you.