The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Rep. Jim Jordan & Jonathan Isaac ｜ 8⧸3⧸23

00:00:00.000 Holy cow, what a full show we have today.

00:00:03.800 We are going to be talking about Devin Archer and going over the interview that he just did with Tucker Carlson.

00:00:11.300 Then we follow it with Jim Jordan.

00:00:14.040 He is looking into some new things and also seems to have an inquiry into the Sweetheart Hunter deal, the plea deal.

00:00:28.060 He's looking into that and wants some additional information.

00:00:31.580 There's more shoes to drop in the Hunter Biden investigation.

00:00:36.060 Then we talk to Chadwick Moore.

00:00:37.440 He is the author of Tucker, a new biography on Tucker Carlson that you don't want to miss a second.

00:00:45.280 Also, Jonathan Isaac, the NBA basketball player for the Orlando Magic.

00:00:49.860 He's the author of Why I Stand, and he is launching a new clothing line, shoe line called Unitas.

00:00:58.700 We talk to him about investing in products that celebrate our values.

00:01:04.000 All that and so much more on today's podcast.

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00:02:30.740 Let's go to Jim Jordan.

00:02:31.880 Hello, Jim.

00:02:33.500 Hey, Glenn.

00:02:33.920 How are you?

00:02:35.460 Very good.

00:02:36.140 You know, I was having dinner with a couple of friends last night, and your name came up,

00:02:40.340 and we are so grateful that you got the job that you did.

00:02:43.540 And you're doing just an amazing, amazing work.

00:02:48.220 You really are.

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00:02:54.540 Okay, so let's talk a little bit about what's going on.

00:03:00.100 Let's start with the inquiry into the sweetheart deal.

00:03:04.240 Tell me about that. 0.98

00:03:06.480 Well, the judge smelled a rat.

00:03:08.280 And, you know, the key part of that transcript, I would encourage all your listeners to read

00:03:11.440 that transcript, because you can, like, you know how you read this, you get inside the

00:03:14.480 mind, see what the back and forth is like.

00:03:16.620 And it was particularly when she asked, has there ever been a deal like this before?

00:03:23.440 Is there any precedent for this?

00:03:26.460 And the government lawyer, the DOJ lawyer says, no, Your Honor, never been a deal like

00:03:31.060 this, because what they tried to do was put the, I think, the sort of immunity agreement

00:03:34.400 they had with the handshake and a wink between the defense attorneys and the DOJ attorneys,

00:03:38.860 they put it in the diversion part of the agreement, not in the plea deal itself, which the judge

00:03:43.940 has to sign off on the plea deal.

00:03:45.300 And she asked the right question.

00:03:46.860 She stopped it.

00:03:48.020 And I think that sort of says it all.

00:03:51.760 And then you couple that with what we learned with David Weiss and the fact that he has said

00:03:57.580 three different things in a five-week time frame, three different letters about what

00:04:03.100 he can and can't do, his story keeps changing.

00:04:06.720 The IRS whistleblower story that came forth, their testimony was consistent and, frankly,

00:04:12.520 validated by an FBI witness we also deposed.

00:04:15.640 So that, to me, I think just shows how wrong this agreement was and why the judge says, time

00:04:22.180 out, time out.

00:04:23.260 We're digging 30 days.

00:04:24.200 We're going to get this right if we're going to do it at all.

00:04:27.580 Jim, be more generous than Mother Teresa would be on the answer to this question.

00:04:35.720 I mean, try to really give the benefit of the doubt here.

00:04:39.340 The press keeps saying, you know, all these accusations, but so far there's been no evidence

00:04:45.960 of any wrongdoing.

00:04:49.160 Boy, I'm having a hard time with that.

00:04:51.860 I mean, it seems to be mountains of evidence.

00:04:55.160 How would you describe the evidence?

00:04:59.500 Well, I would say this.

00:05:00.760 Think about what witnesses have said.

00:05:03.420 So, first, you have Tony Bobulinski, two and a half years ago, business partner of Hunter

00:05:07.740 Biden, saying that that email that says that the big guy, 10% for the big guy, that, in

00:05:12.600 fact, is Joe Biden.

00:05:13.480 We know that email came from the laptop that the FBI has now admitted is real.

00:05:17.260 They knew it was real at the time and didn't tell us, but they've now admitted that the

00:05:21.160 laptop is real.

00:05:22.200 We know it is real.

00:05:22.980 So you have that.

00:05:23.840 Then you have the WhatsApp message where, from that, which says, Hunter Biden says, I'm sitting

00:05:28.840 by my dad, send the money or else, basically.

00:05:31.660 Then you have the 1023 form, which you have the folks from Burisma saying, confidential human

00:05:37.520 source, saying he's talked to foreign nationals who talk about this payment for policy decision.

00:05:42.700 And then, of course, you have the testimony we got Monday from Devin Archer, where he talks

00:05:48.460 about the meeting in Dubai, December 4th, 2015, the meeting in Dubai between Archer, Hunter

00:05:54.160 Biden, Zolachevsky, and Pazarsky.

00:05:56.080 Zolachevsky and Pazarsky are the guys who run Burisma.

00:05:58.300 They say in that meeting with the two guys, Archer and Hunter Biden, they say, we need the

00:06:02.900 U.S. government to get involved.

00:06:04.260 We're under all kinds of pressure, pressure from the Ukrainian prosecutor, pressure in Great

00:06:08.300 Britain, where they've seized 23 million of our assets.

00:06:10.400 We got all kinds of pressure five days later, literally five days later, Joe Biden is in

00:06:15.780 Ukraine.

00:06:16.380 He gives a speech criticizing the prosecutor in Ukraine, which begins to lay the foundation

00:06:22.220 for what happens a few months later, which is where the prosecutor is fired in order for

00:06:28.020 Ukraine to get the $1 billion.

00:06:30.460 So those are the things that keep kind of piling up, not to mention the suspicious activity

00:06:35.180 reports, the number of different companies moving money in and out of and paying all kinds

00:06:39.640 of Biden.

00:06:39.940 Correct.

00:06:40.440 With that money.

00:06:41.620 They keep saying that Joe Biden...

00:06:44.680 Go ahead.

00:06:46.080 Go ahead.

00:06:46.840 No, no.

00:06:47.620 The Democrats say this illusion of access, that sure doesn't look like an illusion.

00:06:53.480 It looks like some pretty compelling facts to me.

00:06:56.560 They keep saying that Joe Biden hasn't gotten any money, which I haven't seen any proof that

00:07:02.620 he has gotten any money.

00:07:03.920 However, we do know that Hunter was paying dad's bills.

00:07:07.920 We know that Hunter said in text on the laptop to the rest of his family, dad takes 50% of

00:07:15.860 what we earn.

00:07:16.620 We know that the shell corporations that have no, they have no experience in any of the stuff

00:07:24.400 that they were doing as a family.

00:07:26.580 And we know the money was going in suspiciously earmarked by the banks as looks like money

00:07:33.460 laundering.

00:07:33.960 And we know all of this.

00:07:37.100 Yeah.

00:07:37.380 How difficult is it to tie it together legally?

00:07:40.760 Yeah.

00:07:41.860 You know, one of the things that came out after the Devin Archer interview on Monday was

00:07:48.280 the Democrats said, well, you know, there was these multiple times where Hunter Biden

00:07:52.560 puts his dad on the phone and it's with business partners and clients and people they're doing

00:07:57.080 business with, but they never really talked about any, they never talked about business.

00:08:01.560 Well, I didn't expect them to, for goodness sake.

00:08:03.780 I think the key was what Devin Archer testified to.

00:08:06.340 He said the value Hunter Biden brought to the business arrangement was the Biden brand.

00:08:12.600 And the Biden brand, he was clear about this, the Biden brand is Joe Biden.

00:08:16.960 And so, of course, he's not going to talk about business.

00:08:19.160 He's going to put, hey, guys, say hello to the vice president.

00:08:21.960 Hey, guys, my dad wants to say hello to you.

00:08:24.580 That was the value in and of itself right there.

00:08:27.500 And of course, the White House's story has changed, just like David Weiss's story has changed.

00:08:31.700 The White House said, no, the president had no involvement, never talked to, never was involved,

00:08:35.620 didn't know anything about it.

00:08:36.780 And of course, that story has changed now over time as well.

00:08:40.600 Now, is there any chance, again, being Mother Teresa, is there any chance that the sitting

00:08:45.860 vice president calls in and is introduced to a meeting of the leaders of Burisma and he's

00:08:54.280 in charge of trying to get corruption ended?

00:08:57.140 And he doesn't know that one of the guys that leads Burisma is one of the most violent oligarchs

00:09:03.980 in Ukraine.

00:09:05.600 Any chance that he didn't know that?

00:09:08.640 I don't think so, because our State Department knew that.

00:09:11.520 Our State Department initially had concerns about Burisma and Hunter Biden's involvement.

00:09:15.540 That came out in the impeachment, the crazy impeachment they tried on President Trump four

00:09:19.640 years ago, back in 2019.

00:09:22.300 And oh, by the way, that meeting in Dubai on December 4th, 2015, there was also a phone

00:09:27.240 call.

00:09:27.620 Now, this is interesting how Devin Archer explained this.

00:09:30.520 He said there was a phone call, but he wasn't a part of that phone call.

00:09:33.520 He was on a different part of the hotel, a different part of the deck, he said.

00:09:36.640 And they were on another part of the deck there at the Four Seasons.

00:09:39.160 And there was a phone call to D.C.

00:09:41.520 We don't know who it was to.

00:09:42.920 Devin Archer said, I don't know who it was to, but it was to D.C.

00:09:46.200 So was it to Joe Biden?

00:09:47.740 We don't know.

00:09:48.460 Mr. Archer wouldn't testify to that.

00:09:49.800 He said he didn't know, but it was to D.C.

00:09:53.440 And of course, we'll have to try to figure that one out.

00:09:57.480 So dad just calls in once in a while, or he or, you know, the son calls dad during dinner

00:10:04.080 meetings over in Ukraine or in Europe.

00:10:08.640 If he's having dinner over in Europe, dinner meetings, it's probably eight, nine o'clock

00:10:13.720 over in Europe, is dad just awake calling his son at three o'clock in the morning?

00:10:21.780 I mean, the time difference is never talked about here.

00:10:26.040 Yeah.

00:10:26.360 No, that's an interesting take.

00:10:27.880 And yeah, I would say like what Dubai would probably be like a nine hour difference, I'm

00:10:32.920 guessing, and it's called D.C.

00:10:35.220 So late at night, I guess it could.

00:10:37.340 Yeah, it's probably early, certainly early in the morning.

00:10:40.120 I don't know.

00:10:41.160 Oh, yeah.

00:10:41.520 That's something that probably in the course of our investigation, we'll have to dig into

00:10:45.540 a little bit more as well.

00:10:48.500 But yeah, you're exactly right.

00:10:50.600 Now, but there was also, understand, there was also meetings in D.C. with dinner meetings

00:10:58.040 with Hunter Biden and his business partners, the Cafe Milano in Georgetown, as Mr. Archer

00:11:02.840 testified to this as well.

00:11:04.520 There were meetings in D.C., I think 2014, 2015, and one of those dinners, and Joe Biden

00:11:09.920 was there for the whole dinner.

00:11:10.980 It wasn't just a drop by, you know, it wasn't just like the phone call, hey, say hello,

00:11:15.580 where he drops by, shakes him, hands, and leave.

00:11:17.360 Mr. Archer said he stayed for the entire dinner.

00:11:19.800 And at one of those dinners, of course, you have Elena Baturina, who was the wealthiest 0.57

00:11:23.500 woman in Russia, wife of the former mayor of Moscow, who had paid Hunter Biden significant

00:11:29.660 several million dollars, and she's there for the entire dinner as well.

00:11:33.240 So that, I think, is interesting, interesting fact.

00:11:37.320 And that's something that they said he didn't do.

00:11:40.160 But of course, Mr. Archer said, yes, in fact, he was there for the entire dinner.

00:11:44.760 One more thing.

00:11:45.700 There was an interesting article written by Joel Pollack that I saw this morning that

00:11:50.900 they are talking that we should be pushing to have Congress nullify the first impeachment

00:12:03.960 of Donald Trump, because the whole thing was he was trying to, you know, get the president

00:12:10.700 of Ukraine to look into what the dirty dealings were.

00:12:13.840 And they said that was dirty dealing.

00:12:16.120 And it looks now like, no, there was a really good reason to ask for that.

00:12:20.660 It sure does.

00:12:22.480 And we suspected that at the time.

00:12:24.460 It sure does.

00:12:25.380 And I'm all for the expungement.

00:12:29.060 I think it's Congresswoman Stefanik, and I forget who else is sponsoring that.

00:12:33.700 But yeah, we should we that I'm totally for that.

00:12:37.180 But yeah, it's always amazing.

00:12:39.820 And remember, that was an impeachment based on an anonymous whistleblower with no firsthand

00:12:44.580 knowledge, who was who had a bias, bias against the president, and who had previously

00:12:49.700 worked for Joe Biden.

00:12:51.600 That was the source that we couldn't know this whistleblower.

00:12:54.580 No, he couldn't.

00:12:55.560 He couldn't testify.

00:12:58.800 Compare that to Gary Shapley and Mr. Ziegler and how they stood up under pressure in a

00:13:03.680 hearing, how their story has not wavered.

00:13:05.760 Their testimony has been consistent.

00:13:07.560 Their story has their testimony has been backed up by an FBI agent.

00:13:10.620 Compare the two.

00:13:11.880 And they tried to impeach a president.

00:13:13.180 So, of course, we should do that.

00:13:15.760 So the last question, compare this to Nixon.

00:13:20.020 Is it better or worse for Joe Biden than the trouble Nixon was in?

00:13:27.000 Well, I think I think the key is we just got to keep doing our job and our job, our constitutional

00:13:31.920 duty, frankly, is to provide oversight, do oversight, do the investigation, get the facts

00:13:37.300 because the facts influence what kind of legislation you propose and pass and implement what you do

00:13:42.760 with the appropriations process and how these agencies are funded.

00:13:45.340 And just continue to do our job, bring the facts forth.

00:13:49.080 Let me point out one thing that has happened because of oversight we've done.

00:13:52.480 It's a different area, but I think it's important, Glenn.

00:13:54.340 Remember when we found out Matt Taibbi was testifying in front of our committee.

00:13:58.400 Democrats were trying to divulge sources.

00:14:00.680 He gives them a lecture in the First Amendment, for goodness sake.

00:14:03.920 At the very moment he's testifying, he's being attacked.

00:14:06.560 Democrats, by the way, a Democrat member of the press being attacked.

00:14:10.300 The IRS is knocking on his door.

00:14:12.280 Did you see what the IRS announced two weeks ago?

00:14:14.000 And we made a big deal of this.

00:14:14.960 We dug into it.

00:14:16.360 We found out there was a dossier on Taibbi.

00:14:18.240 They were looking.

00:14:18.900 Before they went to his door, they were looking.

00:14:20.400 Did he have a field carry permit?

00:14:22.000 What was his voting work?

00:14:23.020 We find that the IRS makes a change.

00:14:25.320 The IRS says we will no longer be sending agents unannounced visits to Americans' homes.

00:14:30.800 That doesn't happen but for us doing our duty, doing the oversight work we're supposed to do.

00:14:36.460 Now, of course, the IRS says, oh, we did this for agent safety.

00:14:41.780 Bull roar.

00:14:42.640 They did it because they caught him playing this kind of game.

00:14:46.620 It wasn't just Taibbi.

00:14:47.740 We had a person in Ohio where they did this, and the person came to her door and used an alias.

00:14:52.940 He tried to pretend he was somebody else.

00:14:55.140 And the local police thought it was a scam.

00:14:56.740 They were getting ready to arrest the guy.

00:14:58.240 And it turned out he's an IRS agent.

00:14:59.980 So, yeah, and they try to say it's because they're concerned about their agent safety.

00:15:03.300 Give me a break.

00:15:03.980 It was because they were harassing the American people. 0.74

00:15:07.060 That's why you do oversight, because it can affect real change.

00:15:12.140 Jim, I'd like to talk to you off air.

00:15:16.360 Some things are happening in my world that probably should be heard.

00:15:24.920 Some really dirty business is going on.

00:15:28.940 So I'd like to bring it to your attention off air.

00:15:32.080 Thank you so much, Jim.

00:15:33.220 I appreciate everything you're doing.

00:15:35.880 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:15:39.500 Let's get right to Chadwick Moore.

00:15:42.960 Chadwick is the author of Tucker, the new book that is out.

00:15:48.080 Welcome, Chadwick.

00:15:48.960 How are you, sir?

00:15:50.460 I'm doing very well.

00:15:51.500 Thank you.

00:15:51.900 Thank you so much for inviting me on.

00:15:54.640 You bet.

00:15:55.080 You bet.

00:15:55.380 So let's talk a little bit about how this came about, the biography.

00:16:03.660 Sure.

00:16:04.220 It was, we began early last spring in 2022.

00:16:08.620 Basically, my publisher called me up and said, we want to do a book about Tucker Carlson.

00:16:12.920 We think he's the most important and influential voice in American politics today.

00:16:16.620 And they wanted me to write it and very honored and flattered.

00:16:20.640 And I called up Tucker and, you know, at first he sort of was like, oh, I don't, you know, I'm not very interesting.

00:16:26.540 And, you know, I don't think anyone want to read this book.

00:16:30.900 And then, you know, I'd been on his show for many, many years and we knew each other that way.

00:16:35.100 And, you know, he, he sort of said, you know, I read your columns all the time.

00:16:39.020 I love your writing and yeah, let's go for it.

00:16:40.880 Why not?

00:16:41.360 And from there we were, we were off to the races.

00:16:45.500 Now you spent about a hundred hours with him up at his home in Maine and in Florida.

00:16:52.280 What was, what was the thing that maybe surprised you the most about his, his life?

00:16:59.420 I think, you know, it's the fact that he isn't someone who can just talk about politics all day long.

00:17:07.100 You know, he's very, his interests are very wide range and deep.

00:17:10.460 And, and his level of the extent he goes to, to humble himself and to remind himself that he is not God,

00:17:17.840 which is, you know, something that he sort of reminds himself all the time was, you know,

00:17:21.800 really impressive and kind of a wonderful thing to get to know about him.

00:17:25.060 You know, he's someone who he's, he's very spiritual without having overt theocratic language and,

00:17:33.300 and theology taught to him, but he's very spiritual.

00:17:36.720 And he does really see the current political paradigm as one versus as good versus evil,

00:17:42.240 which I think sort of, you know, frightens a lot of people in mainstream conservatism.

00:17:46.420 So he is, he's going through a spiritual awakening that unlike I've seen very often,

00:17:56.200 he's reading the Bible every day.

00:17:59.560 He is praying about it every day.

00:18:02.320 And like you said, there's no dogma behind it.

00:18:07.960 He is just going through an awakening.

00:18:10.540 Were you around for that?

00:18:13.540 Because I think that's relatively new.

00:18:18.020 Yeah, it does seem relatively new.

00:18:20.280 He was raised Episcopalian, which he sort of says, you know,

00:18:24.300 he's not even sure if that's a Christian religion anymore,

00:18:26.940 the direction that the church has gone.

00:18:28.920 But I certainly saw that part of him, for sure.

00:18:33.760 And he, you know, just the way he talks about the world, you know,

00:18:37.580 and something, you know, something about, you know, climate change, for example.

00:18:41.740 He's very passionate about the environment, the actual environment,

00:18:44.480 not the green, whatever is going on.

00:18:47.220 But the way he would speak of the environment and basically man's feebleness

00:18:50.300 when it comes to something like controlling the weather,

00:18:53.420 which can extend into, you know, man's feebleness,

00:18:55.880 really controlling many things in the world.

00:18:58.520 You know, there was a very spiritual language and motivation behind that

00:19:02.480 and the way that he is now seeing the world.

00:19:04.380 And I certainly got to see that and to write about it.

00:19:07.060 You were there when he left Fox, and Tucker and I have talked about it,

00:19:13.740 that I think it's very interesting.

00:19:15.940 In the end, with me, one of the things that Fox was very clear about

00:19:23.440 was stop talking about God.

00:19:25.400 And at the end with Tucker, he is talking more and more about what's happening

00:19:32.660 in spiritual terms, and I know that drives Murdoch crazy.

00:19:37.400 Do you think that played a role in his exit?

00:19:42.560 So there was plenty of speculation about that.

00:19:45.140 It may have been one of the many reasons why they wanted to get rid of him.

00:19:48.440 And interestingly, back in February, this post-past February,

00:19:53.600 Tucker had had dinner with Rupert Murdoch and his then-fiancee,

00:19:57.360 and his fiancee had described Tucker as a messenger from God to Rupert.

00:20:02.580 People around Rupert had reported that that freaked him out.

00:20:06.280 He didn't like that.

00:20:07.440 That may have added to it.

00:20:08.320 And just the weekend before his show was taken off the air,

00:20:12.960 he gave a speech to the Heritage Foundation,

00:20:14.600 and he was speaking in terms of religiosity.

00:20:17.700 And he used, you know, the words good and evil

00:20:19.680 when describing what was happening in American politics.

00:20:22.600 And people have been saying for many years, and as you just said,

00:20:25.700 that, you know, talk of God and Christianity really freaks out the Murdochs.

00:20:29.960 So that certainly could have contributed to it.

00:20:33.600 So when you have Tucker and he's, you know, you're with him at Fox,

00:20:40.660 I take it he was quite surprised when they called him in and said,

00:20:45.560 you're leaving, correct?

00:20:48.400 Yes, he was, for sure.

00:20:50.220 He, it, the day it happened, April 23rd,

00:20:53.460 happened to be the six-year anniversary of his show moving into the 8 p.m. time slot.

00:20:57.860 And when Suzanne Scott, the president of Fox News, called him up that day,

00:21:02.400 he thought that she was calling to congratulate him on the anniversary.

00:21:05.940 And instead, she simply said, we're taking your show off the air.

00:21:09.420 Goodbye.

00:21:10.180 They still have not given him an official explanation.

00:21:12.660 He's still an employee of Fox News as we're speaking.

00:21:14.680 And, you know, I got to interview him a couple times after that moment.

00:21:18.620 And he was certainly shocked, and his entire team was.

00:21:24.140 And, but he, you know, he knows he hasn't done anything wrong.

00:21:27.780 He told me that, you know, if he had done something wrong,

00:21:29.740 if he'd embarrassed himself or embarrassed his family, he'd feel badly.

00:21:32.720 But he can't feel badly because he didn't do anything wrong as far as he can see.

00:21:37.320 The day he was, the show was canceled, he was planning on talking about Ray Epps.

00:21:43.880 Is that a coincidence?

00:21:47.780 It's difficult to say.

00:21:48.980 I saw his monologue that he planned to read on air that day.

00:21:52.020 It was heavily about Ray Epps in about January 6th.

00:21:55.280 It was also, in a darkly ironic turn, it was about AOC and other members of government

00:22:01.040 demanding that a show being taken off the air.

00:22:03.160 AOC had gone on MSNBC that weekend to basically say that Tucker should be arrested

00:22:08.500 for spreading misinformation or whatever word she's using.

00:22:13.220 And he was, you know, the only person in mainstream media that was really digging into

00:22:18.100 all of these strange activities that happened on January 6th

00:22:22.400 and really trying to investigate if the federal government was playing a role in that.

00:22:26.680 And also this strange character, Ray Epps, who has not been arrested and has been paraded

00:22:34.080 around mainstream media as some kind of hero.

00:22:36.960 So that was one of many, a handful of issues that he was probably making a lot of enemies

00:22:41.260 in very powerful places.

00:22:42.700 And it certainly could have contributed to or been the reason why his show was taken off

00:22:47.260 the air.

00:22:47.520 So there, the Devin Archer interview that he did last night on Twitter or X or whatever

00:22:55.260 you're supposed to say now, did you see that?

00:22:58.600 I did.

00:22:59.300 Yes.

00:23:00.660 Okay.

00:23:01.240 He, I think he played this expertly.

00:23:04.480 Most people don't know.

00:23:05.800 And I don't, I don't mean this in a bad way.

00:23:09.160 I don't mean this in the way I would normally mean this.

00:23:11.460 Um, Tucker grew up as a Washington elite.

00:23:17.040 He knows that circle really, really well.

00:23:20.220 Yet he is, when you get to know him, he is anything but the elite.

00:23:25.480 I think in many ways he is, uh, he's just a normal guy.

00:23:30.420 Um, but he used his knowledge.

00:23:34.100 I thought unbelievably well.

00:23:36.960 And he was almost, he got Devin Archer to, to almost laugh about, like, we both know what's

00:23:44.960 going on.

00:23:45.840 And that led to some pretty shocking revelations last night.

00:23:50.580 Um, am I reading him right on that?

00:23:54.360 I think you, you really summed it up beautifully.

00:23:57.180 That's sort of exactly what we watched happen.

00:24:00.380 And it's interesting that the DC media wouldn't really find that stuff newsworthy.

00:24:06.360 Either they want to protect people.

00:24:07.700 They don't want to report on it, but they wouldn't find it newsworthy because they live in that

00:24:11.520 world and it's so normal to them.

00:24:13.480 Uh, Tucker realized that, that it is normal to those people.

00:24:16.820 It's not normal to 330 million Americans who live outside of DC.

00:24:21.020 And this is actually interesting.

00:24:23.000 Um, and he drug that out of, of, of Devin Archer so masterfully and wonderfully.

00:24:29.480 It was really something spectacular to watch.

00:24:31.720 So the former head writer for Tucker, um, just tweeted Fox news decision to ignore Tucker's

00:24:39.100 interview with Devin Archer's infuriating employees who still believe in covering news

00:24:43.020 quote from one host.

00:24:44.100 Are you effing kidding me?

00:24:45.720 How do we not cover this?

00:24:47.480 He got Hunter Biden's business partner to casually admit all on a Twitter video.

00:24:52.060 Another top Fox source says the amount of agitation in this building over not being able to use

00:24:57.540 any of Tucker and Devin Archer's sound, just tons of groaning and cursing from producers

00:25:03.000 and a couple of anchors that it's gold and we're not allowed to touch it, use it or refer to it.

00:25:08.220 They also didn't cover, uh, the, uh, the interviews with all of the candidates, which I think was

00:25:15.360 game-changing, um, you know, I was sitting, uh, there at the anchor desk, watching him on stage

00:25:22.300 as we covered it at the blaze and universally it was, this is game-changing, totally game-changing.

00:25:30.600 And it was Tucker.

00:25:32.740 Where is, what is happening at Fox?

00:25:36.200 Is there, is there more, there's speculation that he did a, uh, interview with Trump that

00:25:42.860 they never aired, that he had other things from January 6th that they never allowed aired.

00:25:48.340 Is any of that true?

00:25:51.260 That, that blaze media summit from Iowa was such amazing television or broadcasting,

00:25:57.340 whatever we're calling it on the internet.

00:25:58.800 And I was watching that and I felt like even the quality of the commentary was so far beyond

00:26:04.420 anything you would have ever seen on mainstream media.

00:26:06.520 All the commentators were so smart and funny.

00:26:08.400 I'm not just trying to, you know, butter you up.

00:26:10.400 I really mean this.

00:26:11.460 Uh, and I have a point.

00:26:12.860 Thank you.

00:26:14.360 Oh, it was, it was these commentators speaking on the level of Republican voters, like, like

00:26:19.780 they're having drinks with them at a bar.

00:26:21.180 And you, it made me realize that you would never see that level of connection with voters

00:26:24.620 on Fox or mainstream media.

00:26:26.480 So that felt like a huge turn in independent media eclipsing mainstream media.

00:26:31.660 And then with Fox being, nobody on Fox is allowed to say the T word, Tucker.

00:26:37.060 And, and I know that from, you know, I got kicked off Fox after I wrote this book and it

00:26:41.720 was, uh, the fact that they use breaking news now and they can't talk about it.

00:26:45.780 It's so funny to watch.

00:26:47.460 It's amazing with, with the stuff that, that Tucker did.

00:26:50.640 So, um, there's a bunch of interviews people are talking about as far as I understand it,

00:26:54.560 you know, Fox news owns that it's their property.

00:26:56.880 So I don't think he can do much with it, but, uh, you know, there's certainly lots of, uh,

00:27:01.340 more January 6th reporting that they had that, uh, they're not able to show Tucker's not

00:27:06.120 able to show on Twitter because Fox owns it.

00:27:08.060 Uh, and several other interviews related to that.

00:27:10.560 Um, it's, it's, uh, it's amazing to watch how this is all unfolding and how Fox has really

00:27:16.360 crippled themselves. 0.98

00:27:17.160 Uh, yeah, I think they're, I think they're over.

00:27:22.400 I mean, I've never seen anything burned down so fast as, uh, as this.

00:27:26.440 Well, other, other than the Biden presidency, um, you, you talk about in the book, uh, that

00:27:32.900 Tucker emphasizes, and I'm just going to quote you here, the importance of having people around

00:27:37.580 who see him as a person rather than a television personality.

00:27:40.980 Who were those, what those people?

00:27:43.520 Well, you know, he's become such a caricature in, in, in the right, or on the left is this

00:27:51.840 sort of demonic force of all evil.

00:27:53.280 And on the right, he's also, uh, the establishment, right, sort of portrayed as reckless and dangerous.

00:27:59.060 Um, but you know, you get to know him in his personal life and, you know, his, his relationship

00:28:03.440 with his wife, Susie is, is really sort of a storybook, uh, as storybook as it could get.

00:28:09.600 They're so in love with each other.

00:28:10.840 It's so lovely to watch them interact with one another.

00:28:13.060 As I got to many times and, you know, they met when they were in high school and they're

00:28:17.100 15 years old and they've been together ever since.

00:28:19.600 Uh, and you know, Tucker has, surrounds himself with, with people he can trust his, his whole

00:28:24.520 team at Fox.

00:28:25.820 Uh, there was no, um, backstabbing there, you know, everyone trusted one another.

00:28:29.940 They really loved one another.

00:28:31.100 Uh, nobody was out to subvert anyone else, uh, which is, which is rare in media and especially

00:28:34.940 in television.

00:28:36.060 Um, and it probably because he was such a good leader and they really believed in what he was

00:28:39.980 doing.

00:28:40.660 Uh, another reason why half the team voluntarily left Fox when he was, when his show was taken

00:28:45.080 off the air, the other half was, um, uh, unceremoniously fired in one fell swoop, uh, last month.

00:28:51.240 Um, but on the day, on the day of the, uh, blaze summit, he was making all kinds of news.

00:29:01.120 And that was the day they marched everybody out after the show.

00:29:04.820 It, I mean, it's, uh, it was brutal.

00:29:07.420 It was brutal.

00:29:08.180 We're talking to, uh, Chadwick Moore.

00:29:10.460 He is the author of the new book, Tucker, uh, which was done with Tucker's knowledge,

00:29:17.080 uh, and a real great inside look, easy to read, really well written, an inside look of Tucker

00:29:24.740 Carlson.

00:29:27.340 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:29:32.180 Excited to have Jonathan Isaac on with us.

00:29:34.680 Hello, Jonathan.

00:29:35.340 How are you?

00:29:36.280 Hey, Glenn.

00:29:36.800 I'm doing great.

00:29:37.660 Thank you so much for having me.

00:29:38.980 You bet.

00:29:39.360 It is great to have you, uh, back.

00:29:41.140 I wish, uh, I wish we were speaking in person, uh, just so I could tower over you and make

00:29:46.240 you feel small, but maybe that's, maybe that's just me.

00:29:49.540 Uh, so Jonathan, tell me about Unitas and what you've done.

00:29:54.480 Yes.

00:29:54.840 Unitas is a values-based alternative to sports and lifestyle leisure wear apparel.

00:30:01.020 And very simply for me, values matter.

00:30:04.200 I've been saying it for a long time.

00:30:05.780 And as companies and corporations, especially in the sportswear field continue to move farther

00:30:11.180 away from godly principles and values and constitutional principle values.

00:30:15.620 I thought it was time to create an alternative and give freedom-loving Americans, faith-loving

00:30:20.160 Americans, the option to buy with their values.

00:30:23.060 So you're making, uh, leisure wear, sportswear, your shoes.

00:30:27.300 What is that?

00:30:27.820 What's out right now?

00:30:29.020 And where do I get it?

00:30:30.380 Appreciate you.

00:30:31.120 Right now, we did our first kind of leisure wear drop, which is like hoodies, sweatpants,

00:30:36.540 sweatshirt, t-shirts.

00:30:38.360 Um, and that's just what it's going to be for right now.

00:30:40.840 You can head to WeAreUnitas, U-N-I-T-U-S, WeAreUnitas.com.

00:30:46.640 But we have big dreams about where we're going to go.

00:30:49.280 I want to be in every single field, every sport.

00:30:52.240 Um, I want you to be able to go from some of these other companies and get everything

00:30:55.820 full in-house from Unitas.

00:30:57.380 I'm going to be dropping a sneaker, a basketball sneaker that I'll be wearing in this upcoming

00:31:01.320 season, a bit closer to the season, Tom.

00:31:03.660 So September, October, and also our first line of sportswear, sports bras, leggings, tank

00:31:10.200 tops, uh, shorts, things like that.

00:31:12.200 So we're, we got a lot of things on the cusp, but I'm excited about the launch and how we're

00:31:15.880 doing so far.

00:31:17.540 I have to ask you, Jonathan, just because I've learned a lot from the Smithsonian and the

00:31:22.620 time to ask is when it's happening and not years after.

00:31:26.020 Uh, that was what the American, uh, the, the guy who heads the American history museum

00:31:30.860 said to me, um, I would love for my history museum.

00:31:35.100 I don't know if you, if you know this, or if you came through our history museum, but,

00:31:40.420 uh, we have, we're only surpassed by the national archives and the library of Congress when it

00:31:47.240 comes to founding documents.

00:31:49.320 And we have expanded so much into all kinds of things that are game changing in the United

00:31:56.440 States.

00:31:56.900 And I think what you're doing is truly game changing.

00:32:00.880 You, you are taking on the biggest industry.

00:32:04.540 I mean, you're going, you know, head to head with Nike and Adidas and everybody else.

00:32:09.860 I think what you're doing is game changing.

00:32:12.160 May I get for the museum, a prototype or a first, you know, edition of your shoes to be

00:32:20.900 able to put into the museum right next to the Nike Betsy Ross flag, uh, uh, shoes that

00:32:28.880 they pulled off the market.

00:32:32.000 1,000%.

00:32:33.280 I definitely got you with that without a question.

00:32:37.080 That's great.

00:32:38.020 That's great.

00:32:38.500 Um, so tell me, I mean, I love the fact that you say, uh, Unitas, it starts with you ends

00:32:44.920 with us, but it does have knit right in the middle, which I don't know what means, but,

00:32:49.620 uh, uh, I love, I love your slogan begins with you and ends with us.

00:32:55.700 What does that mean to you?

00:32:57.940 What it means to me is community.

00:33:00.280 Um, I've been through a few things when it came to standing in the bubble and being the

00:33:04.640 only one on my team to not get vaccinated.

00:33:06.760 I know what it's like to stand alone or feel like you're standing alone.

00:33:10.740 And I know that in today's day, there are so many Americans that feel the same way, but

00:33:15.420 don't have the platform that I have, or don't have the people around them, um, that are encouraging

00:33:21.140 them to stand up for what they believe in.

00:33:22.760 So Unitas for me is uniting all of these people.

00:33:26.240 Um, no matter what color you are, no matter what you do, if you understand the value and

00:33:31.300 necessity of these values and you want to see them represented in the marketplace and the

00:33:36.000 culture, then Unitas is for you.

00:33:38.080 And I want you to become a part of this community.

00:33:40.060 So when you're out and about and you see somebody wearing Unitas, you know that that person gets

00:33:45.220 it.

00:33:45.660 You know that they stand for the same values that they stand for.

00:33:48.580 Um, you may disagree on other things or, or maybe not, but you know that they have a

00:33:52.400 foundation in faith, family, and freedom.

00:33:55.300 And that's the community that I'm trying to build.

00:33:57.380 So it starts with you.

00:33:58.400 And I'm hoping that as time goes on, we're able to build this infrastructure of people

00:34:03.340 ending with us.

00:34:06.080 So in 2020, you were the lone NBA player, not to kneel for the national anthem.

00:34:12.400 And then we have COVID and you wouldn't take the vaccine.

00:34:16.620 How scary of a time was that for you?

00:34:18.660 Um, it was, it was terribly scary and, you know, it's, it's died down a bunch now, but

00:34:25.260 every time I think back about those time periods, it really was crazy.

00:34:31.420 There was so much going on.

00:34:32.880 There was so much hysteria.

00:34:34.440 It was so polarizing.

00:34:36.220 Um, and I'm just glad that I had the people around me to give me the confidence and trust

00:34:40.760 that I was doing the right thing.

00:34:42.300 I knew that true change wasn't going to come through an organization.

00:34:46.620 It wasn't going to come through a party.

00:34:48.540 Um, I felt that it was truly going to come through the gospel of Jesus Christ, that we

00:34:52.280 could have real change if we all could see, look, we all fall short of God's glory.

00:34:57.120 And the answer is to love.

00:34:58.840 And so I decided to stand up and, and say that, and it, I got tons of negativity for it, but

00:35:05.660 the positivity that showered from it was amazing.

00:35:08.460 And people understood where I was coming from.

00:35:10.340 And so I was excited about that.

00:35:11.660 And the same thing with the vaccine.

00:35:12.780 Um, I tried my best to be thoughtful and clear about my position.

00:35:16.620 And how I felt that everyone should have the free choice to decide what they want to do

00:35:20.040 with their bodies when it comes to the vaccine.

00:35:24.420 So, you know, you look now at what's happening with the vaccine.

00:35:28.760 The Pentagon just did a, uh, a study and they show that, um, uh, what is it?

00:35:35.340 Carditis, uh, Stu, what is that?

00:35:37.680 Uh, heart condition.

00:35:38.860 Myocarditis.

00:35:40.020 Myocarditis.

00:35:40.600 Yeah.

00:35:41.080 And they said that in the, with the military, they found an extraordinary, uh, out of whack

00:35:48.260 number with young people who have myocarditis, not after the first vax, but after the second

00:35:54.480 vax, it went through the roof.

00:35:56.380 And you're seeing young athletes.

00:35:58.380 Now people who are really healthy.

00:36:00.460 And I know this has happened in the past.

00:36:02.960 I mean, it's, it is, it's not common, but it does happen.

00:36:06.880 But now you're seeing all of these sports figures and all of these young athletes.

00:36:12.020 Is this out of whack or is it just that we're noticing it?

00:36:17.220 No, I would say it's out of whack.

00:36:19.340 I would say it's, it's, it's extremely unfortunate given the way that COVID and everything was

00:36:25.660 handled.

00:36:26.660 Um, I know that there are plenty of people that feel, uh, I guess robbed in a sense and,

00:36:33.560 and let down because of the things that are happening.

00:36:36.240 Um, and who knows, you know, people are talking about it.

00:36:38.860 Could it be, could it be, could it have been COVID could have been the vaccines.

00:36:42.120 I know you just talked about it being a spike after the second shot.

00:36:46.340 Um, you know, I'm not one to just lay blame and say it is what it is, but I do think that 1.00

00:36:50.760 as time goes on, there is going to be a mass, uh, I would say just reckoning for what happened,

00:37:00.020 um, and the way that things were handled, the pressure that people were under to get

00:37:03.920 vaccinated.

00:37:04.920 Um, and I think it is a disservice to the American people for what happened.

00:37:09.480 So back to your product, Unitas, you are making shoes and are soon to be shoes, but,

00:37:15.540 uh, sports clothing, sweats, t-shirts, polos, et cetera, et cetera.

00:37:19.740 Um, and you're doing it on your own.

00:37:23.200 You, I assume you don't have any big, or do you have any big outlets that are coming to

00:37:29.860 you and saying, Hey, we want, we want to be a pariah and stand with you.

00:37:35.180 Uh, do you have any big outlets or is it all on online?

00:37:41.460 Not yet.

00:37:42.380 It's definitely something that I'd be open to, but right now we are just direct to consumer

00:37:47.000 at weareunitas.com.

00:37:49.160 Um, and I, I have again, big dreams about where we could go.

00:37:52.860 I definitely want to have the opportunity to sponsor for colleges and, and high schools

00:37:57.520 and things like that as we move forward, who knows?

00:38:00.000 Um, but I'm just kind of taking it one step at a time.

00:38:02.540 There are plenty of Christian Catholic, um, universities and high schools and stuff.

00:38:07.020 So we're working on it, but right now it is just me.

00:38:09.360 And, you know, we're looking for, you know, people to come on board and help support.

00:38:12.980 And if, uh, if a big outlet wants to take us, um, to have them in their stores, we'd be

00:38:17.680 open to it.

00:38:19.940 My son has just become a, uh, college football coach.

00:38:25.020 Um, which is shocking because I barely even know what football is, but, um, uh, I, I,

00:38:32.780 I would love to, and I'll foot the bill.

00:38:35.040 I would love to outfit, uh, his team and the coaches with your product.

00:38:40.320 If they would do it, I don't know if they would do it, but I would love to outfit his,

00:38:43.900 his team on that.

00:38:45.460 Um, you are taking on, you're taking on everybody.

00:38:51.260 And then you're also not making anything in China.

00:38:55.180 Everything has to be ethically made.

00:38:58.200 Um, I know, cause I started a clothing company years ago.

00:39:04.200 That's really almost suicidal to do that.

00:39:08.300 It is so hard to get things of quality made at a reasonably price at a, as a, at a reasonable

00:39:14.800 price.

00:39:15.320 How are you doing that?

00:39:17.760 It is very, why are you doing it?

00:39:20.520 Yep.

00:39:21.120 So for me, I'm not necessarily.

00:39:25.240 And since I say like an absolutist in terms of like, because at the end of the day, all

00:39:30.700 of us in some way, shape or form use things that are produced in China.

00:39:34.180 And so I'm not necessarily from the standpoint of, okay, we can never use anything in China.

00:39:38.020 It's, it's just, it's very hard to do for me personally.

00:39:41.680 When it came to Unitas, I had my own conviction that I did not want to manufacture anything

00:39:47.340 in China.

00:39:48.200 That was, that was my choice.

00:39:49.860 And I decided to go that route.

00:39:51.980 Does it make everything exponentially harder?

00:39:55.640 Yes.

00:39:56.080 Does it make producing the clothes harder?

00:39:59.500 Absolutely.

00:40:00.160 But it was something that I wanted to do.

00:40:01.940 And so when it comes to the sneakers, I got hooked up with a company called SoulWorks and

00:40:07.280 they were able to find a, an ethically operating factory in Vietnam when it came to sneakers.

00:40:14.500 And so that's where we're at right now.

00:40:16.040 When it comes to sneakers, we are sourcing clothing material out of Peru, um, and, uh, and Turkey

00:40:24.160 and everything is being embroidered and stitched in the United States and Chicago.

00:40:28.720 And so it does make everything, it does make everything much harder to produce.

00:40:33.980 And we're working on finding ways to, to mitigate some of those costs and things like

00:40:37.840 that.

00:40:38.060 And it's going to take some time.

00:40:39.440 Um, but I, I think we made the right decision by, by just saying, you know what, for this,

00:40:44.020 especially, I know we use things, you know, produced in China all the time, but for me,

00:40:48.040 I wanted to, I wanted to not, um, create that affiliation.

00:40:52.680 Jonathan, I, uh, I have profound respect for you.

00:40:55.760 I have no idea what you do really.

00:40:58.080 I've never seen you play a game, but I have tremendous respect for what you stand for and

00:41:04.960 the fight, uh, that you fight every day and the stand that you take.

00:41:10.400 So congratulations on this and, uh, it has started with you and it will end with us.

00:41:16.900 Unitas is the name of the product.

00:41:19.160 Thank you so much.

00:41:20.900 I appreciate you, Glenn.

00:41:22.140 Thank you so much for having me on.

00:41:24.340 Thank you, Jonathan Isaac.

00:41:26.640 And again, we are unitas.com.

00:41:29.640 We are unitas.com.

00:41:32.420 Um, that's a, another way to show Nike and everybody else.

00:41:37.080 Yeah.

00:41:38.100 I mean, now there's a good product out there that you can get.

00:41:41.180 Uh, it speaks to your values and, you know, hopefully Nike will see, uh, eventually, um,

00:41:49.740 you know, kind of a bud light kind of action against them.

00:41:53.480 Not because we're boycotting them just because I don't, we don't need you.

00:41:57.920 We have something that stands for our values.

00:42:02.040 We are unitas.com.

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