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Jimm Jordan joins us from Washington, D.C. to talk about what's really going on with the documents and why the federal bureau of investigation can seem to catch these whitmer terrorists quickly, but yet we still don't know what was going on during the 2016 election.
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hey welcome to the friday podcast this is a good one jim jordan joins us from washington
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uh we talked to uh we talked to i think one of the best uh reporters out there somebody who has
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really risked everything and has paid a heavy price for telling the truth john solomon we're
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going to talk to him about what's really going on with the documents and why the why the federal
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bureau of investigation can seem to catch these whitmer terrorists quickly which i'm glad they did
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and yet we still don't know what was going on during the 2016 election where the prosecutions
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where's the fbi there that and how to argue critical theory all on today's podcast
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the guy who's one of the watch uh watchmen on the gates uh serves as the ranking member of the house
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judiciary committee on the and the house oversight uh committee his name is jim jordan one of the more
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conservative guys in fact i think the most conservative guy in uh congress welcome jim how
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are you i'm doing fine glenn good to be with you today thank you very much so i want to i want to
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talk to you about several things uh but uh first of all let me start with the whitmer thing um i
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condemn this this is these are not right-wing people uh they're not constitutionalists uh they
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hate donald trump in their own words and the video has the black anarchist flag behind them
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now yeah i'm glad the fbi took them down but can you tell me why the hell we can take they these
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guys down in a seemingly such short order but we're still asking the question if there's any
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coordination with antifa yeah no i i look i'm like you these guys are these guys are crazy and it
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and it's great that the fbi is uh is is going after them and and arresting these guys and they
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should yeah and yeah and they should you're right but but also look at antifa what is it now 120 some
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days yeah great that they've been laying siege to the to the city of portland i mean literally laying
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siege to a city um so we need to figure out and we've we've talked to the justice department about
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this we need to figure out who's financing these folks wait wait wait what is the justice i'm you know
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uh i'm sorry congressman because i'm not coming out you know on on you hard i really not you're one of
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the good guys but i am so frustrated with hearing about oh well the justice department and and bill
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barr is going to be doing you know all the when when yeah well you you you and you and all kinds of
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other americans glenn you and millions of other americans because well let's just go back to the fbi
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to the uh to the whole uh trump russia hoax that we now know without a doubt we knew this already but
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now we have proof without a doubt was a hoax that clinton made it up to cover up her the fact that
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she destroyed 30 000 emails we got that we got brennan's notes this week so we we know what's
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up there it is time to figure out can can we actually arrest some people here can we indict
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some people here so yesterday yesterday the frustration yesterday trump said that uh you know
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ag bar has more than enough evidence to indict members of the obama administration and i think he
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went as far as saying obama for the trump you know uh russia stuff uh he said it included obama and
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joe biden so well do you know what and what the what the president is referencing there and then look
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bill barr has done a done a good job and i i appreciate the work he's doing but like so many
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americans we are all like come on we we know what happened here but what i think the president's
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referring to is the now famous january 5th meeting january 5th 2017 when they're in the white house
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with it's obama it's biden it's susan rice the now famous email 15 days later where susan rice
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does the the greatest cover your backside email in history and says oh the president told us to do it
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all by the book but that's the meeting where they decided we have to get michael flynn because michael
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flynn is former head of defense intelligence we'll figure out what we did we have to cover it up and the
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only way to cover it up is to get rid of the guy who was former head of defense intelligence
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who's now going to be the national security advisor to the president of the united states
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so that's the day they have to plan to take out michael flynn and they did it just 19 days later
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january 24th four days in the administration when they went in and set up michael flynn okay so so
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we know that right we know that we've had that but now we also have evidence that the president was
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briefed by brennan by brennan twice so i mean this this goes back all the way to the summer before
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during the election right no it goes back to three days before it goes back to july 28th three days
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before they open the investigation three days before that brennan tells them it's a hoax clinton's
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doing it to take the heat off of her clinton's do this to to to people you know conjures this whole
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thing up three days before three days later on july 31st they open the investigation so those two
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things that july 28th notes and then what happened on january 5th 2017 that seems to point to
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right to the president and to mr uh and to the vice president uh vice president biden and i think
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that's what the president's referring to so again we can't you and i can't indict anyone
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right you know you do a great job of giving people information and i'm in congress what i can do is
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is and we did this we talked about there were just a handful of us three and a half years ago
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a handful of us who were talking about this and no one wanted to help us and frankly
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we had we had leaders back then in the republican party who tried to stop this but we said something
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smells wrong here and the more we dug into it the more we figured out there was a rat here and now
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it's not now it's time for the justice department to figure out if they're going to indict someone and
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if they're going to do it they need to do it but we can't control that okay so here's here's the
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problem as i see the republic is at stake you've i'm sure you have read the uh at least the executive
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summary of the you know what is it the the transition integrity project have you read that
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yet i'm not but i've heard about this oh my gosh i'm good about it but i've not read my staff will
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send you all of the notes and it's not our opinion it's their words these are the same exact people
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that were involved back then and it is a plot to repeat the 1876 election where
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it was absolute chaos and i'm telling you it's insurrection how when when is something going to
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happen is there anyone i mean i don't believe that ag bar is a member of the deep state but there is a
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there is a group of people who don't care about the election that are just going on and running this
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country if we don't get it before trump leaves office god forbid we're not going to get it and we
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lose the republic no that that and that turns me that concerns me uh that that you know but but
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here's the good news look look look i i understand what the deep state wants to do i understand some
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of these folks and what they're trying to do but the good news is i think the president's going to win
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i think he's got i mean you can feel it in in our state you know he won our state by eight and a half
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and we're always considered the the swing state ohio right uh but but he won and it feels exactly
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like 2016 in some ways it feels like there's more energy for the president uh now than there
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was at least there was good about that there was some energy behind hillary clinton being the first
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woman etc etc there's no energy behind joe biden none well of course not this this election is about
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the president it's about the president and and uh the energy the positive energy for the president is
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is something i've just not seen you can the trump parades the boat parades you can the flags everywhere
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you can see it across our great state and frankly i've traveled around the country and you can feel
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obviously if i've been in wisconsin i've been in pennsylvania i'm going to be in texas i'm going to be
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in florida uh later tonight you can you can feel that as well uh because they know this guy has been
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fighting for us and here's the thing i always come back to remember the other night when when kamala
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harris says she she said you can't she couldn't trust the president i'm like you can't trust the
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president this guy more than any president in our lifetimes glenn has done more of what he said he
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would do than anyone he said he would cut taxes cut taxes said he reduced regulation reduced regulation
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said he'd have a great economy had the greatest economy ever before the virus is coming back said
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he'd build the wall he's built the wall said he'd get out of the iran deal got out of the iran said he
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put the embassy in jerusalem put it in jerusalem said he'd get a new nafta new nafta and said here's the
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best one he said i'm going to give you a list of the people i will choose from for the supreme court
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put out a list chose from that list gorsuch and kavanaugh they're now on the court then he said you
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know what i'm going to do it again put out a list chose from that list with the passing of justice
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ginsburg and pick uh amy coney barrett this guy more than any public official more than any politician
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has done what he has said he would do that's what the american people understand that's what that's
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what the vice president communicated the other night and that's why i think he's going to win and i
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think frankly it could be big uh from your lips to god's ear i i if if i didn't have the mainstream
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media telling and filling your head or my head with polls uh that i think are wildly inaccurate and you
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can prove those by looking at the methodology um if i didn't have that i would say this is going to be
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a landslide because the left is so out of touch with the american with the traditional american
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viewpoints um let me i i know we're pressed for time so let me just ask a couple of uh a couple of
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other questions brennan has laughed off the claims that hillary approved the russian hoax the media is
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still treating you know everything they're saying is fact uh how how does this story end for the media
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what has to happen before the the facts are actually called facts no with the mainstream press
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it'll never happen but but again the american people can see through the mainstream media well
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we got the story today steve scully is is is colluding with what what uh scaramucci some some some uh
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some email today we they're never going to to to see this is the same mainstream media where you had
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15 people who traveled with the president who said that the comments that were printed by four
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anonymous sources and they believed the anonymous sources when you had 15 eyewitnesses so when you
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have when you have john bolton who wrote an anti-trump book say that's not true yeah i mean yeah so
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the mainstream press is just the democrat party uh pretending that they're doing some kind of
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journalism when we know they're not so i don't i don't ever think they're going to come around to the
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truth but the american people get the truth and they know what the what they did to this president
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was was uh was completely wrong and they started before he was even even elected the only reason
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i can think nancy pelosi is pulling this 25th amendment stunt is because she's trying to
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wear the american people out and just go i can't do this for another four years
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yeah probably so because you know if you're so confident if you believe all these polls
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then then you know there's election in 26 days what are you what are you focusing on the 25th
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amendment for right i mean that's that that if if joe biden is kicking everyone's tail and he's
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going to win this thing why is he campaigning in pennsylvania right well it seems to me he should be
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campaigning in wyoming for goodness sake if he's up by if he's up by that amount uh that so i'm like
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you but remember this cato did a survey now if you can trust this survey which wasn't per se about
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politics cato did a simple survey they said are you comfortable speaking your mind in the cancel
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culture environment we find ourselves and they ask the question are you comfortable speaking out
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62 percent of americans said i'm reluctant to share my views in the cancel culture environment
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we find ourselves in well if 62 percent of americans are reluctant to share their views on a
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on a kind of a generalized question might they be a little less than straightforward yeah on a poll
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asking about the most controversial figure in probably our lifetimes in american politics
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president trump i i think i think they might so i don't buy the polls because they're no different
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than they were in 16 when president trump won this election um twitter locked the account of the
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former uh dni uh the director of national intelligence uh rick grinnell he shared an image of ballots sent
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to him by a friend living in california who says they were addressed to his parents who have been
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dead for 10 years why was this happening why why can't we talk about this why why do they feel they
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have to uh ban him now for that yeah well there's two two questions there first of all why did they
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ban him this and the second question is look what's happening with these ballots we have a staff person
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in our office who lives in who got four uh four other ballots sent to her residence four other ballots
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people who had already moved now you don't think there's potential for mischief there what glenn why is
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there just one party who thinks it's okay to count ballots after election day even if you can't
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distinguish the postmark date on the envelope the ballot arrived in why is that the case why would
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there be only one party who wants that to happen that is the position we find because that's exactly
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what's going to happen in pennsylvania well i that is scary stuff jim i will tell you that i i fear for
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the voices if they can take uh grinnell and silence him here here with evidence in his own life we're not
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going to be able to defend the president or the election uh on social media at all because they will
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silence all of our voices i am glad you are in congress thank you so much for all that you do
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hello grace how are you hi how are you very good uh where do you go to school i shouldn't even ask
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that um you're in texas and you have a professor and tell me about the professor without singling
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him out or her sure um so my professor uh we're learning about different communication theories and
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what we have been talking about for the last few weeks is critical theory especially in the economic
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sense um basically saying that there is a huge gap between the bottom 10 and the top 1 and the people
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in the bottom 10 are stuck there and the people at the top are resilient and stay at the top and
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basically have um a hand over everyone and the people at the bottom um especially the communities of
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color do not really they have a chance but it's a very limited chance of getting even in the top 10
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right so okay all right so you have to argue uh this it's it's a flawed uh thing to if you're going to
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argue that this system as it currently stands is a free market because it's not a free market uh it is
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big businesses and those with real money uh colluding uh with congress and and everybody else not through
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just elections uh but through uh lobbying that really i mean that's why you see google and uh twitter
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getting all of the special exemptions because they've got enough money to be able to do it so don't argue
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uh that this system that we're using right now this system needs to be cleaned up and people need to go
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to jail and laws need to be enacted to stop this kind of stuff uh grace let me introduce you to
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justin haskins have you have you two met have you already talked on the phone uh we actually talked
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yesterday on the phone yes all right so justin welcome justin uh justin is i think one of the best
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voices on uh socialism marxism uh what's going on in america and uh also critical theory and i get a
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little uh fuzzy and probably too much in the weeds on critical theory so i wanted to get justin who i
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think is really good hi justin hey how you doing glenn i'm good to speak with you good good to talk to
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you uh so justin you understand what grace is trying to find out right i do yes grace and i
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spoke yesterday and uh she's got an assignment coming up and if we don't get an a on this assignment
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i'm gonna have a black five matter like protest on the front lawn of the college i think that's
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what we're gonna do okay that's gonna be the plan so justin i do understand it take her take her
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through and the audience because there's a lot of people you know i just talked to gad scat gad sad
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yesterday and and by the way if you're a blaze tv subscriber that is out right now you can watch it
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on demand tomorrow it'll be released on youtube for everybody else about three o'clock in the afternoon
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but grace i urge you to watch that because he's also uh i mean he's a professor and he explains
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what's going on really really well i think that will help you as well if you have somebody in your
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life that is trying to figure things out watch that podcast with him um because he's he's really
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good all right so justin where do we start okay so i think the the best the most important thing to
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understand is what critical theorists are trying to do and what critical theorists are trying to do
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is they're looking at the world the way of looking at the world that's what critical theory is
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and what they're trying to do is they're trying to explain why the problems that exist in the world
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exist the way that they do and essentially what critical theorists argue and there's a whole bunch
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of different kinds of critical theories but what they always try to argue is um that the reason why
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some groups of people in society whether it's race or religion or any other kind of group class
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um the reason why those people are not successful relative to other people not as successful as other
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people is because of power structures differences between power in society so for example critical
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race theory is one of the easiest ones to understand uh white people wrote the laws of the united states
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this is how a critical race theorist would talk white people wrote the laws of the united states so the
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system is rigged in the favor of white people even if they didn't do it uh deliberately they
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subconsciously did it they created a system that benefits their own group and so african americans
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and hispanics and other groups they have no hope of success because the rules are written to favor
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the people who are in power and and that's what makes it so hard for people to move out of lower
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classes into upper classes this is what they would argue and so all the problems that exist in society
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exist directly or indirectly because of a difference in power dynamics between groups so the only way
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to fix that is for there to be no differences in powers between groups now this is why it's so
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important for people it's really important for people to understand this this is a fundamentally
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marxist concept and the reason i say that is not only because karl marx made these exact same kinds
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of arguments about wealth when he's arguing against capitalism right but because when you take this to
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its logical end if you have different amounts of wealth in society even if you could fix all the
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other differences in power if you have different amounts of wealth in society then you have different
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amounts of power in society so the only way to fix the problem if you take it to its logical end
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is for everyone to have exactly the same amount of wealth that's communism that's why the system
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ultimately always leads back to marxism because that's the only way for there to have no differences
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in power that in in society the other way to go is like a national socialism or some sort of
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authoritarianism doesn't have to be communism but it's always marxism um you know the the nazis were
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socialists national socialists and what they said was um you can have private property but you can only use
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it the way the state wants you to use it uh what the great reset now being pushed by uh the un
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um and also the economic forum world economic forum uh that great reset is based on this same thing
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that we're going to balance everything out and you'll be a companies will be able to own things
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but and they'll be the manufacturing company apple will still exist but they'll be partners with
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the government they'll have to make the things that the government and their advisors say they need
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to make um and it's more of a chinese communism where it's a hybrid between the two they say but
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there is no free market in that would you agree justin yeah that that's that's exactly right this is
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the way that you you get socialism in the 21st century you're not going to get it through
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marching people out of the cities into communes in the countryside like they did 50 60 years ago
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it's just not going to happen you're going to do it exactly the way you just described
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by controlling the economy not necessarily owning everything and the elites of course are the only
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people in in the world who are qualified enough to tell everyone in the world how to live it has to
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be the the elites that control all of us so you're exactly right and that's that's what the great
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reset is all about and that's what the world economic forum is pushing for this is the best
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i do want to mention actually if you don't mind that my professor did say yesterday in class he
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said if you disagree with me i appreciate that because you are not taking things at face value
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good for him yeah i'm sure he'll appreciate this paper yeah good good good so um what what else do
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you need help with sure so how would you oppose critical theory without sounding heartless
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oh my gosh this is this is great this is great we could go on for two hours on this one
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you want to start justin yeah i i think that the best way to start is to do exactly what glenn said
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earlier and admit that the current system is broken it's full of cronyism it's no good we don't like
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the current system as it stands now it's not really important yeah it's not the free market what we're
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experiencing is not the free market exactly and then i think this i think the second point that you
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want to hammer right away is you want to say look what i want is a system that makes everyone wealthy
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i want everyone's life to be better i want everyone to be wealthy and successful and healthy and happy
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that's what i want and i believe that history shows unequivocally that the best way to do that
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is to have a free market economic system that when you the the freer the market is in a society
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and coupled with individual liberty coupled with protections under the rule of law the freer that
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market is the more economic success that country has for everybody across the board it's in the book
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we talk about the really important point to make in the book we talk uh about india and if you look at
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india uh it was a communist country it was a socialist country the caste system i mean it was you were
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either going to make it or you're not now that there is the free market in india india is exploding it's
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it's still not uh america uh but it is changing a great deal and it gives people the opportunity
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at any level to start something themselves you in india you have all kinds of shop owners that had
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nothing they had nothing and now they have their own cart or their own shop and they're much happier
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and have access to wealth now that they didn't have before that's that's exactly right and actually the
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story of india and really the story of some of the liberalization that's gone on in china too although
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they're obviously not a free market country um in both of those places hundreds of millions of people
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over the past 50 hundreds of millions of people more people have left poverty in those countries
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than people live in the united states in just the past 50 years so why is it that we don't hear that
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narrative ever being talked about when we have these conversations about socialism and capitalism and
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capitalism and free markets even though they're just putting a little drop of free market capitalism
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into their system they are lifting hundreds of millions of people from poverty the best thing
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that could have ever happened to india and to china is even just a little bit of of capitalism in their
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society and so it's and use the word free market over capitalism because capitalism is is what people
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think of when they think of this country and uh this country unfortunately is crony capitalism uh it is on
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the path to what russia has russia doesn't have a free market you have a bunch of people that are still
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in pain because you had the the former communist take control they just took off their uniform and put a suit
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on now they become oligarchs and now they off each other um it's it's it's a mob run system uh over
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there russia is an example of of of communists not knowing how to use the free market as the everyday
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average person and then those in power taking control again and instead of just having the state take it
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from people they just take it they just take the power and the money and they become oligarchs so you
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need to really talk about um adam smith's understanding of a moral society uh and a uh and and a uh um
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a system that you you haven't seen here in america it requires people to be involved but if you believe
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in the individual and you believe in free will and freedom of choice which i believe is is
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a god thing we were given free will if you believe in martin luther king and what he said
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that all men should be looked at and judged by the content of their character not the color of their
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skin not their wealth nothing just what is it they do a merit-based society where the government as it
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says in the declaration of independence is instituted among men to protect those rights
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right now our government is protecting the rights of the wealthy instead of protecting the rights of
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all men it's why justice is blind but we don't have a blind justice system anymore look at what happens
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if you are a elected official you can get away with anything if you're somebody with power you can get
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away with it if you're somebody who's just the average joe you go to prison that's not blind justice
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that's not the constitution that's not part of the system that we uphold we want people to uh
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to be uh happy and fulfilled but unless you can um chart your own course unless you can say yeah i know
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i'm gonna be poor because it it sucks but uh i really believe in the toy train wheel store because i'm an
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expert on toy train wheels and that's all i want to sell okay well that's probably not going to be
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successful but that person goes to work every day and they love their job they love it because they have
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the chance to be who they are i can't guarantee you a success on that but uh they uh they are happy
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the other thing you have to remember um and this is really kind of adam smith's moral sentiments in a
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nutshell the best kind of capitalism is the kind of capitalism that says what do people need okay
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what do they need how can i make their life better for instance windows windows by bill gates
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changed the world and made our lives so much easier because all of a sudden we didn't have to have to
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learn code it just all of a sudden the window was there and we could use these instruments and they've
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changed the world and made all of our lives better apple what does the world need they they need a way
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to access music and their phone and take pictures so the free market asked what do they need
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and then it created it so the best way for capitalism to really work is when you have those entrepreneurs
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that are saying how can i like make people's lives better how can i make their lives easier when people
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are incentivized to help other people uh amazing things happen for instance it will always be the rich
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that get i'm in fact my wife for my 40th birthday 15 years ago my 40th birthday my wife bought the very
00:31:13.840
first flat screen hang on the wall television it was a sony trinitron flat screen it weighs a ton
00:31:23.400
uh and it costs ten thousand dollars a flat screen now hangs in some of the lowest class uh homes
00:31:34.620
in america because yes the rich do buy it but that money pushes it forward so it can go down and
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become cheaper and cheaper and cheaper until people can everybody can access it
00:31:48.360
yeah that that's that's a that's a great point glenn and the other the other side of that is that
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progress that progress can only come when you have a high level of efficiency in the economy
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and what government does when they start getting involved in the economy is slowing that efficiency
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down and making it harder for that progress to occur and that actually limits the ability over the long
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run for lower income people to move out of poverty because they're limiting economic opportunities and we
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see this across our entire country at the state and federal level with things like occupational licensing
00:32:28.600
rules where you can't even cut people's hair now without getting a license we see this for all kinds
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of other things regulations are actually keeping people in poverty and limiting economic growth if we
00:32:40.560
didn't have so much of that the economy would be growing faster people would be making more money the
00:32:46.000
quality of life would be improved that's not happening in large part because the government is
00:32:51.340
keeping its boot on the throat of regular people and not allowing them to have those economic
00:32:58.300
opportunities and then the system is rigged at the top because the wealthiest most influential
00:33:04.020
corporations are able to buy support at the political level to craft the rules so it benefits them and not
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their competitors if free market system would never allow for any of that to happen and i i just want
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you to remember one thing uh grace um you people will say but yeah but people will suffer people will
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people will go broke yes yes they will um it is not always because you're a non-compassionate hate
00:33:35.020
monger that you say people have to pay the consequences the banks never paid the consequences they were say they
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were saved by the federal government in this in this crony capitalism they made really bad unethical
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decisions they should have paid for it now would we have all paid for it yes but i can tell i contend we
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are paying for it in a different way right now with civil unrest it is a loving parent that allows their
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children to feel the ramifications of their own actions my dad told me if you ever are pulled over
00:34:15.000
and you're drunk or driving and you get pulled over and you're going to jail you will not see my ass bailing
00:34:20.700
you out and he meant it and it why did he do that because he's a bad guy no because my actions
00:34:29.060
have serious consequences and i need to pay that price that's real compassion not just handing everybody
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anything that they want um grace i've got to run is how has this been helpful yes absolutely this has
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helped me so much narrow down how i can argue against critical theory great um we want to hear the
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updates on it and send me your paper because i'd love to read it all right all right thank you you
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bet thanks justin thank you very much uh you bet justin and i by the way are working on a new book