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On today's show, Congressman Jim Jordan (R-Ohio) joins Sen. Cory Booker (D-N.J.) to talk about the courageous whistleblowers who have come forward with information about the CIA, FBI, DOJ, and other agencies.
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Jim Jordan is joining us now from Washington, D.C.
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I think you are doing a great job and a great service.
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I think there are several of you now in Congress that I actually trust and believe you're actually going to do something.
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Well, thanks for all you've been doing to get the word out to the American people.
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So, Jim, tell me, this was incredible yesterday.
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First of all, you gave your opening dialogue on, you know, a monologue on what you were going to see.
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And then the Democrats came out and they said, what you're going to see are lies, half-truths, and fantasies.
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I've never seen anything like that, especially when you are presenting whistleblowers.
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And these guys are good men who love this country and value the Constitution, the First Amendment.
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And but for guys like them, these guys and others like them, we wouldn't know about what they did with parents at school board meetings.
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We wouldn't know about what they're doing to pro-lifers praying at clinics.
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We wouldn't know about that, you know, Catholics attending Mass, that the Richmond Field Office viewed them as radical, traditional, Catholic extreme.
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But for guys like this and the fact that they were willing to come forward shows just what good people they are and their commitment to the Constitution and to the oath they took.
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I mean, they literally tried to crush these guys, particularly Mr. O'Boyle and Mr. Frank.
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But for them, we wouldn't know the things we know and wouldn't be able to be in a position to make the case for, you know, going after these agencies in the appropriations process, which is what we have to do.
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So I did a special last night on the reckoning of the Biden crime family.
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And one of our listeners wrote in and wanted me to ask you today, is there a way to help these whistleblowers?
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They can receive like it's not GoFundMe, but there's there's ways that we should.
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OK, I'll get it from your office and we'll share it.
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Because we had, you know, we had the dossier come out with the.
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Yeah, they know, not the steel dossier, but the report.
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We had the Durham report come out and the media is blind.
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And to me, this shows how deeply in trouble this nation is.
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You have intelligence, CIA, FBI, justice, the White House, Congress, all of it dirty, like majorly dirty.
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Well, I don't think it's funny how the good Lord works, because the same week we get the Durham report, we just happen to have scheduled this hearing where we have these whistleblowers coming forward.
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So understand the Durham report, he said as clearly and as as straightforward as you could say that the FBI, I think the best line was the FBI failed in its fundamental mission of fidelity to the law.
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There was no evidence, no probable cause, no predicate whatsoever to launch this investigation.
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They did it based on a fake document, a document they knew was false.
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The dossier they knew was false at the time they use it to go to the court to get the warrant to spy on a presidential campaign.
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They put the country through all three years of craziness.
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But worse than that is what's happening today, because today it's not just limited to a presidential campaign.
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If you're a pro-life Catholic, they view you as radical.
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I mean, if you're a parent speaking up for your kid, they view you as a terrorist.
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I mean, it's like, you've got to be kidding me.
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But I just found it interesting that those two big pieces of information came out in the same week, just underscoring how, in your words to Glenn, how dire the situation, how real the situation actually is.
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I just read it this morning, how Congress could have the final say on the Russian collusion scandal.
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In the Durham report, it shows that people like, what's his name, Elias for the...
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Yeah, Mark Elias from the DNC, that he would not participate, wouldn't talk, wouldn't, didn't give anything.
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And Turley is saying, why don't you start putting the screws to these guys and offer immunity?
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Now, I don't think there's a chance that Mark Elias is going to turn on anybody.
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But I do think we should be, in our investigative work, our oversight work,
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we should be focused on getting every single fact and getting that information, the truth to the American people.
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Because if you don't have all the truth on the table and do our constitutional duty of oversight,
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then you're not in a position to make the case, which we're going to have to make, which we have to do.
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When it comes to appropriating money, we're going to have to change how that's done.
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We're going to have to say, you can't use funds for certain things.
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We're going to have to tell the FBI, ain't no way you're going to get a new headquarters worth, I forget how many hundred millions of dollars.
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So there's those kind of things, but you make the case when you show what's been going on.
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So when you're going through all of this, you're not getting the documents.
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Christopher Wray the other day was just unbelievable to watch.
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You're not getting anyone in Congress getting the documents that you're demanding.
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You have oversight, and they seem to feel like they have oversight over you.
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When the founders put this great nation together, three separate and equal branches of government,
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if there was one branch that was supposed to be more equal than the others,
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it was supposed to be the legislative branch, and in particular, the House of Representatives,
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because that's the body closest to the American people.
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Every two years, American people get a chance to throw us out.
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That's why the founders said that's the body where all the taxing and spending bills have to originate.
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So we're supposed to be able to tell the executive branch,
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hey, we need information to do our job when it comes to legislating and appropriating,
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Second, when we've had these struggles, sometimes you go to court.
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We went to court for a witness we wanted to get in the whole Alvin Bragg crazy situation up in New York,
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and the court ruled in our favor, and we had Mr. Pomerantz in for a deposition just last week.
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So sometimes you have to go to the courts to get what you need.
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So we're going to continue to press, whether it's subpoenas, what have you,
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for documents or for people to come in for an interview.
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We're going to continue to press there, but we have to in the end.
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The only thing that gets people's attention, the only thing that gets their attention is the money.
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It's that simple, and we're going to have to do that here in the next couple months
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as we go through appropriating for these agencies in the federal government.
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Well, I mean, you can do that even if they don't pass a budget.
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Does Congress have control of the purse strings still?
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We sure do, but it's going to be a fight with the Senate.
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When you've got an FBI who's retaliating against good guys like Garrett O'Boyle, Marcus Allen,
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Yeah, and I think you would have the American people squarely behind you.
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I think Congress, with the people like me, I don't care for the Republican Party,
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but they're better than the Democrats, but I don't want to give a dime.
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I'd give a dime directly to a candidate, but not to the Republican Party.
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People like me are seeing, I think, are starting to see, wait a minute, wait a minute,
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something is different, and there's just a few of you guys now that are standing up,
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I'd like to see that continue, but he seems to be doing a lot of good things,
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Yeah, no, he's, you know, Glenn, I talk about this all the time,
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What did you tell the people you were going to do when you put your name on the ballot,
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If you get elected, if they put you in the job, go do what you said,
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I think our team is doing that, and the most important thing is, as you just said,
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We've got to continue to do that because that's our mission.
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Do what you told the American people you were going to do.
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Okay, so there's one thing that concerns me on the budget,
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Now, everything I've understood from the Capitol Police from the last administration was,
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So whoever is in charge of the House, that's their police force.
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They have new offices now in Florida, in California.
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They are now turning into an intelligence force.
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Pentagon has given them things to collect intelligence on Americans.
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This is way beyond their scope, and I don't know about you,
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but I don't trust any other police force with intelligence capabilities.
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Yeah, look, the rank-and-file officers are great guys.
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I talk to them all the time, coming in and out of different buildings.
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Do the Lord's work like good local police officers do the Lord's work.
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We don't need these offices around the country.
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We don't need this expanded surveillance capabilities and activity.
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And I would have to check with the Speaker's office,
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but I don't know that Speaker McCarthy is going along with that.
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I will tell you, in the Republicans' annual appropriations bill,
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they have an increase of $46.3 million more than last year,
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Do we finally have the Congress and the Republicans
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Because, you know, the spending has went up so dramatically,
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but just we're set to run a deficit of a trillion and a half,
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And if we can do that, take it back to lower levels,
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that'd be the first time in my time in Congress,
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maybe the first time in modern history where the next Congress
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If we can actually reduce spending and begin to show the country
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and the economy and the world that, look, okay,
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they're at least going to kind of rein this in and get a handle on it
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and begin to pay back some of this debt, get to balance at some point.
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But if we just keep the crazy stuff up that the Biden administration is doing,
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I worry about the dollar staying as the reserve currency,
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which is critical for our country and a host of other things if we continue on this path.
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But I think we're going to actually get to where we're spending less
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after the crazy increases we've seen in the Biden administration.
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So one last thing, the church committee did, you know, the Lord's work, if you will,
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and tried to rein things back in, and it's gotten worse again than it was back then.
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Do you think that this, I don't know, deep state, whatever you want to call it,
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the people that have no fidelity to the law or to the Constitution,
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can we save the Justice Department, the FBI, the intelligence community,
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Here's the key measure, I think, this Congress settled that will tell us
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if we can get things back in the right direction or not.
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If that gets passed and we just keep doing the same old thing,
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because understand the church commission brought a lot of good facts to light,
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but the church commission gave us the FISA court and the FISA process.
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If we fundamentally change that, if we get rid of this ability for them
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where the 3.4 million Americans had their information queried,
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information that was picked up when they were surveilling some foreigner,
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but they talked to some American and then they got the American in the death.
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If we don't change that, then I'm very worried.
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When you have the FBI engaged in some of the things,
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And then, of course, as I've said now a couple of times,
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what happens during the appropriations and the spending process.
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And specifically in the House, we need to make sure we use it.
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I will tell you, I found out just the other day that this program now has a bigger footprint than Fox News does,
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which blew me away when somebody gave that stat to me.
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It's it's the what's happening is all the mainstream media is dying and shows like mine and others are all growing.
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I don't know if we could turn this corner five, even five or six years ago.
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But I think if you guys just keep going, we're going to turn a corner.
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We're going to turn a corner because the mainstream media doesn't have the lock that they used to have.
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And then the second thing I always say is the American people are smart people.
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They have common sense and they hear common sense and they hear good information from you
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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Hey, I just want to share some good news with you.
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He was on, I think, when they first launched it.
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Uh, it is a, it's a great, great service that ever you should have, uh, on your browser,
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you should make sure that you're going there, uh, whenever you're looking at, uh, buying
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something, doing anything, looking at companies.
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I have to tell you something really interesting happened the day you were generous.
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You generously had us on the show to talk about our corporate bias rating, just ratings
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You just mentioned that day, your listeners responded so well.
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We had a huge spike, biggest spike in traffic to our site ever, but the, the left didn't
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They actually launched a very sophisticated denial of service attack on our site that shut
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us down for a couple of hours, but actually that, no, no, it's, but honestly, it was a
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It let us know we're over the target and they don't want your listeners to engage or be informed.
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So just real quick, you're, you are looking at all of the, uh, uh, companies that are
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So you can just, uh, if you're for ESG, great, use those companies.
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If you're against it, don't use those companies.
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Um, you're just giving the likelihood of a company canceling a contract client boycott,
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divest, whatever, based on somebody's view or belief, right?
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Um, we want customers, whether you be, you're an individual consumer or you're running a
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small business or you're running a nonprofit, we just want you to be informed.
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Or frankly, if you're an employee trying to decide, should I apply for a job at a certain
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Um, and we let you know which ones are actually like, we like to use the term weaponizing
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It's just informing people so they can make their decision.
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So there's some good news that I want you to share about ESG.
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I think the day this came out, but we just passed, mentioned it in passing and it is really good
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Uh, Glenn, the, you know, it is hard to argue with the market and market forces are working
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and speaking, um, big picture, uh, a couple of years ago, there was almost $52 trillion in,
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ESG funds globally that has declined 36% to about $33 trillion.
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And for your, for your listeners, your question is, well, why would that happen?
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Well, if you're making decisions for non-financial reasons in a portfolio, uh, you're going to
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And so last year tech stocks and, you know, the ESG funds love the high tech stocks because
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they do the environmental stuff and, and the, the social stuff, um, tech stocks down last
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year were down 30%, but fossil fuel stocks were up 60%.
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And so these ESG funds, they overweight tech, they underweight fossil fuels because they're
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trying to drive an agenda, trying to transition the economy.
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And so because of that money, billions of dollars are flowing out of ESG funds.
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When we first started talking about it, um, I asked somebody, can you, we start tracking
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these funds to see if they're losing money for people, people that, and we now know they
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are, um, and, uh, and people have got to know this.
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If you have any kind of money, uh, with, I mean, maybe you could probably, uh, name more
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than I can, but, uh, you know, BlackRock Vanguard, get your money out of there.
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And, and the, the reason is they are using your dollars, whether you're in an ESG fund
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or not, this, this is the really most important thing.
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Find out, go to your asset manager, go to our 1792exchange.com, find out if your asset
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But if you're in a big asset manager, BlackRock or State Street, or most of the other bad ones,
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you know, Franklin Templeton or JP Morgan or Invesco or Magellan.
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Whether you're in an ESG fund or not, what they're doing is they're voting your proxies.
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They're pushing the ESG agenda with your non-ESG funds.
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There's, there are very few big asset managers that are actually somewhat neutral.
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Dimensional funds is probably one of the better big ones.
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Our, our Vidant is one and one, another one is Strive.
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And so we need to move out and, and that will, when consumers change our behavior, that's
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There's some really good information, uh, that you really should, uh, look at, but when
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you're looking at brands, for instance, um, you know, uh, buy New Balance instead of Adidas,
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tell your wife that no Adidas, uh, no Nike, buy New Balance instead.
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Um, um, you know, there, there's, uh, problems now with, um, State Farm, State Farm.
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If you're looking for a local agent, State Farm, uh, started paying for books and pushing a
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transgender agenda for children, uh, and your local agent isn't aware of it, but you can
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be, if you understand, uh, the 1792 exchange, uh, project at 1792exchange.com.
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Yeah, Glenn, this is, this is about customers and consumers being informed and, and just
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remember that these companies are being pressured by activist employees are being pressured by
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these asset managers to take positions that, that harm the very company, harm their employees
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So Paul, ultimately, where do you put, where do you put Budweiser?
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Because I think the owners of Budweiser are, are conservative, but they're letting their
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company, you know, be run by, uh, by these crazies who are all into this stuff.
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I can't claim to be an expert on a beer company, but, but I will tell you,
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Your listeners know, you know, a, a, I would say middle level manager, but very influential
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This woman was very highly paid, decided to make a decision, um, to put this brand behind
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And my guess is that in a lot of these companies, the CEO was not asked, Hey, should we have
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Dylan Mulvaney, uh, on the, the, the, the Bud Light cans?
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But the question is, why are these CEOs hiring and promoting people, um, probably with their,
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Why are they promoting them to manage brands and, and giving them the ability to make these
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And, uh, the, the problem is, this is the beautiful thing about the, the Bud Light example, which
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So the, the people on the right, people who, who think that, um, gender dysphoria is not something
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It's something to be treated with compassion and care medically.
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Um, so we're unhappy, but then because Bud Light kind of pulled back from that, now the,
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So it's a perfect, it's a classic example of don't get involved in politics.
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Uh, thank you so much for everything that you're doing.
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Thanks for sharing the good news about, uh, ESG.
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We have Victor Davis Hanson on who I just think is a national treasure.
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Uh, he is, he is so wise and well-read and really knows history.
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He can kind of point to, uh-oh, road sign ahead, uh, better turn left now.
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Uh, he's just written something on the French revolution, uh, that is, I think spot on.
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And I read it a couple of weeks ago, and this is the first time we've had a chance to get
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Um, so, so take us through the French revolution and how it relates to us.
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Well, it was a period where there were justified needs for reform.
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The Bourbon kings had been, you know, under, uh, negotiations with a more representative
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And there, and we know in 1789, there was a French revolution storming at the steel, but
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the immediate solution was to have a parliamentary, uh, twin to the monarchy.
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And that was pretty much what the people were negotiating.
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And then there were cycles that just kept occurring again and again.
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That was a group of people who said, no, we don't want the key.
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We want the king to be representative, not really an active partner in government.
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And then another group called the Montagnards, they were the people high up in the, in the
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They said, no, we've got to get rid of the king exactly.
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And then of course, yesterday's revolutionary was today's sellout was tomorrow's greater.
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So the Jacobins came in under the Robespierre brothers and St.
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Juiced and they said, you know, you people are sellouts.
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We're re-antaned that we've got to get rid of them all.
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We've got to be equity has to be an equality result.
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We've got to attack the churches, hang the priest, confiscate church lands, renumber the
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It's not going to, it's going to be 1789 year zero.
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We've got to name a new month and we're going to have to have a new supreme being.
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First, it was, you know, a rat, the God reason radio, and then it was become just the cult
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So it, what I was trying to say, and then of course they went so far that life was unsustainable.
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And then we had what we called the Thermidor reaction where they came in and just swooped
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in, decapitated the Jacobin leaders on the guillotine.
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And then what was left was the director, the directory of the consulship and Napoleon
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So my point in this article was that these, the democratic party under Obama started this
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And yet, if you look at it today, it looks pretty tame compared to what these Jacobins
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They want to change our foundational date, like the French revolutionaries did 1619.
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They're talking about redefining basic biology with women.
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We're talking about reparations, so that somebody who may or may not have had a slave in his
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ancestry eight generations ago is owed something by somebody who may or may not have had an
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ancestry of the slave generation eight generations ago.
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But it's similar in the sense that almost any means necessary, unconstitutional or otherwise,
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are justified by the nobility of this total revolution of making everybody the same, supposedly.
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And so, so, so where do we, where do we go from here?
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What, what do you think if you just follow history is coming next and how do we make sure
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that we don't fall into the hands of a Napoleon?
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Well, I think it's very important to stop it now because we're getting to the point where
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this revolution is unsustainable for life as we knew it, because when they're, if they're
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canceling power plants as they are in New York or here in California, brownouts, and I was
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You see people injecting, fornicating, urinating, defecating right in front of you.
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And, uh, you, the school system here in California is unworkable and we have this situation where
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all these stores are just leaving the major downtown areas of Los Angeles.
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And when I went into a wall Walgreens in San Francisco, it was almost like you were in
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Everything is locked up and you have to, and I've never seen anything like it.
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So we're starting to see the breakdown of the police.
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We're seeing the breakdown of the financial system with 33 trillion in debt and we can't.
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And so if we don't all step forward and say, we've got to stop this immediately and have
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the courage to say, there's going to be no reparations.
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This is a racist effort and we're going to have to, we're going to have a border.
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We're going to have a border and we're going to have to deport people who came in here knowingly
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And I think it's going to take that type of medicine to ward off somebody who finally
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will, will say, you know, I'll put a lid on it, but we don't want that.
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You know, I, uh, Victor, you might be somebody that would brainstorm with,
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I, I, uh, I just found out a couple of weeks ago that, uh, the first transsexual surgery
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happened in the Weimar Republic in like 1925 or 26.
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Uh, and it was the first, uh, university of sexology.
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The Weimar Republic was, um, doing all kinds of things that are happening now.
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Uh, and the churches had gone silent and kind of dead inside.
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Uh, and when the Nazis came around the corner, there were too many people that were all for,
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you know, I'm not a Nazi, but they're going to burn the books.
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And the first books that they were burning were the sexology books about transgenderism
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And what I'm afraid of is you get to a certain point.
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And if our churches don't wake up, what happens?
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We will look for somebody who will say, as you just said, I'll put a lid on it and we will
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And then we, our side will become the bad guys because we haven't noticed that our hearts
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I remember the American sexologist have a lock Ellis.
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Well, he was advocating things that were pretty, even today look pretty crazy, but nobody, nobody
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in Germany, I mean, Hitler, if you read the early propaganda of 1933, 434, it was all against
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He tried to melt up everything he could because it was just an unstable mess, the Weimar Republic.
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And, you know, they had deliberately printed in 1923, earlier, they printed all this cheap
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money to pay off their identities to France and ruin the global economy.
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And there was a, there was a kind of a cultural, I think what you're saying is there was a cultural
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It's an idea that no one can judge anybody else's lifestyle.
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And the banks started to be run by guys in their twenties and the older.
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All the older people were like, wait a minute, what is happening to our country?
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Uh, and it's similar to this EG ESG, this idea that we're going to make investments based
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on social activism rather than financial logic.
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And, uh, that's what's scary is that this revolution that I think started with Obama has
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morphed into a 24, seven, 360 degree effort to be so intensive that, uh, sexuality, economics,
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uh, academia, professional sports, almost every institution has to participate.
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And I think that's because they realized there's no popular support for it.
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51% of the people do not agree with any of this, but when you have all of the major institutions
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under your control and you've got the big money now, everybody thinks big money was Republican.
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It's left wing Silicon Valley finance corporation.
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And we, we have the voice, but we don't know how to exercise that power because we're just
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If you do a Google search, the first 20 results are going to be ideologically warped, right?
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If you say, you don't know what's going to be banned on Facebook or, or maybe not anymore
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Twitter, but everywhere you turn, your kid comes home from college and gives you a lecture.
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You're going to see the school board for your nine-year-old.
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And again, holistic that I think everybody is kind of retreated to a monastery of the mind
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I haven't heard, I don't know what a Tony award is.
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And I'm afraid that some people are also withdrawing from the news because they feel so alone
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and hopeless and powerless, which is absolutely not true.
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But there is one thing that I think is really good.
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I, you know, cause I've been warning about these things since the beginning of Obama and
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it has always, I just realized this week, it's always been, okay, Glenn, yeah, yeah.
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The Republic is going to go down and these guys are all going to do these things.
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Now it is seemingly accepted even by parts of the Democrats and the left that we're going
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down and this is the time that it's, it's happening right now.
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And you're waking up and, and solidifying in people's minds, oh crap, this is real.
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And I think that's our opportunity here to save the nation is if we can act now together.
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I think we, people have to realize that whatever their politics, this agenda is not a political
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It's, it's, it's goes nowhere, but destruction.
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If you have, just to take one example, if you institutionalize the idea that you're going
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to attack personally, the Supreme court justices, you don't agree with every day with this fix
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the court and you're going to go to their homes and you're going to swarm their homes or your
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Chuck Schumer, you're going to go to the Supreme court and threaten them with the world when
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Now, you know, I, I remember when pack the court was a dirty word from 1937 and Roosevelt's
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That's an agenda, but they're, they're advocating things that will not work in the sense that
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if you were to enact them or implement them life, as we know, it would not be sustainable.
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It, as we know it, I don't think it would be the California is the canary in the mind.
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There's, there's certain things now that people do in California, but they've never imagined.
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I make sure I don't, I have, I have pharmaceuticals because I can't go into a store.
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I don't go out after night in a big city after seven o'clock at night.
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It's very rapid that collapse, it shows you how fragile we're, we were much more fragile
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Well, I really appreciate all the work you do, Victor.
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He, he ends his, his op-ed with a counter revolution is building, not just because people are angry
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uh, as what has become of their country, but because they now are learning that if they
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do nothing, they will have no country and soon.