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On today's show, Glenn Beck is joined by his long-time supporter Eric in Indiana to discuss the Donald Trump interview that aired on CNN last night, and whether or not the former president is running for re-election. Also, Rep. Rodney Davis is trying to find answers as to what Nancy Pelosi was doing on January 6th, and Glenn talks about the tea party riots at the Capitol.
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Welcome to the podcast. Glenn Beck has COVID. Yes, his second bout with COVID now.
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I just, you know, at this point, I just seem, he just seems to like having it. I don't know.
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It's the Omicron wave and everyone's getting it all over again. Glenn has COVID. He is here today,
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however, a little scratchy voice. He's pushing through it. It's not as bad as it was back in
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2020. So that's, we're thankful for that. He will bring us up to date on January 6th,
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talk about a New York Times hit piece on him and some others trying to paint him as an
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insurrectionist. We have some of the details of one particular story involved in the riots
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at the Capitol. We don't have answers to someone who is really a kind of a suspicious, strange
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story. We'll get into that. We also have Representative Rodney Davis on trying to find
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out answers as to what Nancy Pelosi was doing on January 6th. Why can't we get information
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from Nancy Pelosi about some basic questions about January 6th? And we get into the Donald
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Trump interview Glenn did that aired last night. You can get that at blazetv.com slash Glenn. We'll
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play some of it for you today. Really interesting stuff from the former president and kind of a hint
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as to whether he's going to be running or not. That's all coming up on today's podcast. You can
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the podcast. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. Let me go to Eric in Indiana. Hello, Eric. Welcome
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to the Glenn Beck program. Hey, Glenn. Thanks for having me on. Big fan. Long time supporter. Thank
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you. Hey, I hope you feel better soon. Thank you. Hmm. Is he? I don't know. It does not seem to be
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you want to be talking. No, that's okay. It's your turn to talk here. I just didn't want to talk over
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you. Yeah, I listened to the interview last night, Glenn, and I just thought it was fantastic. And it's,
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it's the first time since independence day, 2012, where I felt truly hopeful for returning to
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constitutional values. Um, I just thought that last night was about the future. It was about
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unifying. And like you said, where they're just constantly trying to divide us. I mean,
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members of my own, own family, I'm vaccinated, but my, my daughters aren't, they won't meet with my
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daughters. Like I, and so like we're divided and like no doctor told them to do that or anything,
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you know, literally the president did. And so I just think that Trump's interview last night
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was so unifying and so, so inspirational that I'm, I'm fully on board now. And like during the,
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um, 2016 primaries, um, here in Indianapolis, I went to the Ted Cruz convention where he announced,
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uh, Carly Fiorina as, uh, as his running mate, you know, and, you know, Trump had said things like
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horse face and lying Ted. And I never liked that stuff, you know, and I was always a supporter because
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I do feel like he had a role as a drain the swamp kind of guy, a, uh, him in the nose,
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you know, fight back against the media kind of guy, but I never saw him as the healer that you
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had talked about in the past and others had talked about, but man, that interview last night really
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turned me around. And I'm telling you, it wasn't since, like I said, 2012, you know, the tea party
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stuff. I was there in DC on independence day. I was there in DC on a September 12th. And man,
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that was such an awesome movement. I had such high hopes. And it wasn't until last night, man,
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that, uh, Trump, Trump brought that back for me. And this morning I called my dad and I just said,
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I'm on board. I said, we got to get this guy reelected. And I think you're right. I think
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he's running. I mean, watching that interview again last night, I mean, he's running.
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Oh, I am excited. I'm fired up this morning. Yeah, that's great. I'm really glad to hear that,
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Eric. Um, you know, that was my intent. I talked to him before we went down there and I said,
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look, you know, everybody is just, um, talking to you and we're re litigating the past. I don't
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want to talk about the past. I want to talk about the future. Cause I think people are looking at
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what's going on. Here's the really bad thing about September 11th, Eric, thanks for your call. Um,
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the bad thing about not September 11th, um, January 6th, January 6th, they are now the press is using
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this as a distraction on all of the really important problems. Our schools are corruption
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in our FBI, the justice department, the department of education, um, gas prices, meat prices, uh,
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inflation spending out of control. All of these things that are happening, Putin, China, they all
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go to the back burner because they're, uh, focused on, uh, January 11th, sorry, January 6th. I can't get
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this date, right. January 6th, because they're focused on that. Do you know how many good, decent
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Democrats are feeling alone and feeling like, gosh, it's just me that's going through all of these
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things. I guess, I guess it's, I guess that's not important that this must be the really important
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thing. They're really being screwed by the left and, um, and by the media. And that's tragic,
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really tragic. But he got on last night and I don't know. Um, I'd love to hear from you if you
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watched it last night, 888-727-BECK. At the end, my wife said, you know, that's the first time I've ever,
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I've ever seen an interview with him where it seemed like just two people hanging out,
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having a conversation. And I felt that way as well. Um, uh, it was just a different interview
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and very, very, very hopeful. In fact, can we play, if you wonder if he is, uh, running or not,
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can we go to, um, the, um, the sought where, where he is, he is saying it was at the very end. And I
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don't know if you, you missed this. Um, but it was at the very end where he said, um, yeah, where is
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it? Where he talked about, you know, making America great again. Play that please. It's so sad,
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our country right now. I don't think we've ever been lower. And despite all of the witch hunts and
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the phony Russia, Russia, Russia, impeachments, it was a beautiful time. We had the greatest economy
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in history. We then had the China virus come in and then I rebuilt the economy. I really rebuilt it
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twice. The second time harder than the first, but we had the greatest economy, the greatest everything.
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It was a glamor pit. It was a beautiful period. And now I see what's happening with energy, with
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inflation, with the military, with these clowns. Uh, and I said, you know what, let's put out a book
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talking about how beautiful it was because we're going to make it that way again. Hmm. What does that
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mean, Stu? We made America great once. We'll make America great again, again, again, uh, my God.
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Okay. To me, there is no way he's, uh, he's not running. We'll play more of the interview coming up in a
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little while. I was thinking about what kind of person it would take to not run. If you were Donald
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Trump right now, the nomination is his, he doesn't have to do anything to get it. He he's dozens of
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points ahead of anyone else who would be challenging him. Now, of course, anything can happen. You know,
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you never know what the future will bring, but he would have to basically, um, I, you know, it would be
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a very strong man to say, no, I don't want this nomination unless he just thinks it's just too
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much of a disruption to his life. It's his, he doesn't have to, he doesn't have to even work for
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the nomination. It's his. So he becomes a one in two shot. And the other person is Joe Biden,
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probably who is, uh, terrible and is running the country into the ground. I know you think maybe
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Hillary runs. I'm sure other people will run as a, as a challenge, uh, especially the way this is
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going with Biden. If it continues to go this poorly, he probably won't even run for reelection
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and they'll have to run somebody else. So, you know, how could you resist it? I mean, unless you
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just didn't think it was important. Oh, I think you could resist it for another reason. In the
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interview last night, he said, uh, you know, I really had two jobs, try to get the country back
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on track and survive. Yeah. And it, it's true. I mean, he, he was fighting for his survival every day
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since, you know, the minute he came down the escalator, he was fighting for his own survival.
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And, and I don't think he saw that coming. I thought he would, I think he thought that,
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you know, he'd still get the good press, blah, blah, blah. And, you know, they would be harsh on him,
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but not like that. And, uh, it's because he's an outsider, but he was really clear. You know,
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we had dinner afterwards and, um, you know, when the, when the president, former president says,
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what are you doing for dinner tonight? The right answer is, I don't know, McDonald's,
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because that's what I said. And he looked at me, he actually said, you and I, we could eat together
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for a very long time. And I said, yes, we could. Anyway, um, we had dinner with the first lady and
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I think that's what wounded him deeper than anything else was the attacks on her. So unfair and so cruel,
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uh, on her. And I think, you know, for him to go back into the arena, would you, I mean,
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you know what it was like, Stu, when we were at Fox and literally every day we were fighting for our
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life. Do you just immediately say, oh yeah, I'd go back? No, that's, and that's why I, that's why I
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said, I think the only decision for him is if it disrupts his personal life, right? I mean,
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like you think, think of a person like Ron DeSantis, who's thinking about potentially running,
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he's got a million things to think about, right? It's not just whether it disrupts his personal
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life, but it's like, can I win? Who would I be running against? Uh, you know, uh, do I, you know,
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how do I play this? When's the right time to announce? None of those things are factors with
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Trump. All he has to do is say yes. And it's his, I, you know, I, there's no poll that shows anyone
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can even come close to challenging him. So it's just really like, okay, let me make a personal
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decision based on myself and my family. What's the best thing and the country. What, what do I
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think is the best way forward with everyone else? There's, you know, there's a, there's a million
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political calculations to factor in. You also, and the, the, the number one thing you have to factor
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in, if you're anyone other than Donald Trump is, is Donald Trump going to run? Because if you're
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Ron DeSantis and you announce, and then two weeks later, Trump announces, you are now a, you know,
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you're the second fiddle on the ticket. You're at best running for vice president in most circumstances.
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There is, if I were thinking, which it would be crazy for me to think this, but if I were thinking
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I'm Ron DeSantis, let's say it that way. And I'm thinking I might run for president. There's no way,
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no way until I have a hard, fast public no from Donald Trump that he's not running.
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I mean, it'll be a, it'll be a cruise to the, uh, to the nomination.
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And what's of course makes this difficult, uh, you know, and Donald Trump knows the media. He's
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obviously, uh, very, very good at understanding what gets attention in the media. He knows the
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second he gives a hard, fast no, a lot of his power drains away, right? Like he, you know, he'll,
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I think the kingmaker in the Republican party for as long as he wants to be, but like, you know,
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the, the media circus around Donald Trump starts going away when he says, I'm not running anymore.
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Um, he's now, now the focus goes to Ron DeSantis or whoever else is going to run. So there's no
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incentive for him not to keep it alive, even if he wasn't running. But I mean, again, everybody inside
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his inner circle, people who he, who are in his inner circle that are advisors to him that are,
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you know, on his team are coming out and publicly telling the media he's 99.9% running. Uh, so like
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if he wanted that messaging to stop, they would stop it. Yeah. He, I mean, he clearly is running.
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And I think that means he's the nominee. And I think you look, honestly, I'm, I'm more convinced
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Donald Trump is the nominee of the, of the Republican party than I am. Joe Biden is the
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nominee of the democratic party and he's the sitting president. Absolutely. Yeah. Or Kamala
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Harris. I have no idea who they're going to run in 2024. Cause those two will not, that's, that's a
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disaster. That won't win. I have, that won't win. I have no idea who they could actually run,
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but I will tell you that I'd be shocked if Donald Trump didn't win. And if he approaches
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the election like he did last night where he was, where he's just laying out a strategy
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of hope and doesn't get waylaid into all of the stuff. Um, I think he's, I think he's a
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shoe in because all of those people who voted for him the first time and then were convinced
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that something was corrupt. Now they're seeing, wait a minute, corruption, no corruption. Uh,
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we know what's going on here. These guys are Marxists. These guys are not helping me and my
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family. It's costing me a fortune because of the policies of this guy. And I think they'll get all
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of those people back that voted for Donald Trump and then some, and then some get those people back
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from 2016. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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So let's go to, uh, Darren, uh, Darren Beatty. He is a former professor, Duke university,
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former white house speech writer, and the founder of revolver news, the anniversary of January 6th.
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So let's get an update, uh, from, uh, from Darren. Hi Darren. Hey, thanks for having me again.
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You bet. So I wanted to talk to you because, um, the press is making it, uh, that there's all kinds
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of conspiracy theories that the right is buying into conspiracy theories about this. I don't know
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what the truth is. Um, I just know that there are a few things that don't make any sense. First of all,
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it's the worst one ever. Uh, and yet nobody has been charged with sedition or anything like it.
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Um, and then you have players like Ray Epps. Can we play the audio here of Ray Epps? Listen, the audio.
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I know. In fact, tomorrow, I don't even like to say it cause I'll be arrested. Well, let's not say it.
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We need, we need to go, I'll say it. All right. We need to go in to the Capitol.
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I'm going to put it out there. I'm probably going to go to jail.
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So here he is, um, talking clearly about going into the Capitol. He is stirring people up the night
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before in this last clip, uh, where he was saying that you could hear them saying FBI stooge, FBI
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plant. Um, but he was on a most wanted list and then nothing happened. Can you tell me the story
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about this? Yeah. I mean, this here's, uh, a remarkable, uh, case, this individual Ray Epps.
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And just to give a bit fuller, uh, context for what his involvement was, he's not only ubiquitous
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the evening before January 6th, going to multiple different groups with multiple different agendas
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and really corralling them and focusing them on this new and utterly bizarre mission to go into
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the Capitol. And you can hear a little bit about how people's reactions. What are you talking about?
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Fed, you're a Fed. He remained persistent. He went to every different group and he focused them on this
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mission to go into the Capitol. And what's important to say is that this isn't just some random
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drunk on the evening of January 5th that we never heard from again. He followed up on this stated
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mission the next day on January 6th. He's a veritable where's Waldo. And if your listeners go
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to revolver.news and read, uh, the first Ray Epps report, we have tons of video evidence documenting
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his every move on January 6th. He's everywhere. And he's telling the crowds after Trump's speech is over,
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we're, we're all going to the Capitol. That's where our problems are. Our enemy is the Capitol.
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And sure enough, at 12 53 PM, crucial to note, Trump is still speaking at this time, but at 12 53 PM,
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Ray Epps is not at the Trump speech. He flew all to DC all the way from Arizona. He's wearing a Trump hat,
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but he's not at the Trump speech. What's more important to him is he's right there
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by the metal barricade. And he whispers into someone's ear. And two seconds later, that someone
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engages in the first and decisive and fateful breach of the Capitol grounds that starts the
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whole thing off. This is the same guy who the previous evening was telling everyone we need to
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go into the Capitol. Initially, as you point out, the FBI thought he was an important enough to
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include him as one of the 20 most wanted January 6th offenders. They said, we need to identify him.
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Well, then the internet identified him and the feds FBI cricket until revolver.news ran a piece
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basically implicating the FBI in January 6th. And the day after this came out, the feds quietly scrubbed
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Epps' name and his face from their public database. And since then, the only thing that any
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official FBI agent has said about Ray Epps is to deny all knowledge of his existence.
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Um, can you, can you, can, are we ever going to get an answer on, on this? Is there any,
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Yes, that's an excellent question. I'm really glad that you asked that because
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obviously this is very important to me. It's very important to the country.
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And we're not going to get any answer from A.G. Merrick Garland, who's been a mop-up boy
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for precisely these types of fed infiltration operations going back decades. We're not going
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to get any answers from the sham exercise in political theater that is the January 6th committee.
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The only place we're going to get answers, I think there are two possibilities if we're going to get
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ultimate answers at all. One possibility, and this might sound crazy, but I've become very familiar
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with the way that these fed operations work. And a lot of times the higher up handlers of people
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like Ray Epps, they think of them as pawns. And Ray Epps may have been tricked in some capacity.
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Maybe he was told that the reason that he was doing what he was doing was for something that
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turned out to be not the case. Maybe he feels like he was misled. Maybe he didn't really fully
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understand that he was going to be used as an instrument in an agenda to label half the country
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as domestic terrorists. But for whatever reason, Ray Epps or many of the other actors who are clearly
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feds or fed informants, they can step up, they have the power to expose their handlers and to break
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the case wide open. So that's one option. The second option is the defense attorneys for the
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defendants in January 6 cases. And on this, I'm cautiously optimistic. One defense attorney for Kelly
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Meggs, who is a Oathkeeper defendant, has on the basis of Revolver.News' reporting, issued a subpoena
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demanding the testimony from Ray Epps and Stuart Rhodes, who is the founder and leader of the Oathkeeper's
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militia group, who is also curiously uncharged. And so one of two things can happen. Either the subpoena
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goes through and they actually do have to testify under oath, in which case that can be extremely
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interesting. Or in the case of agents and informants, the government has the power to block
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subpoena. And if the government steps in and intervenes and somehow blocks the subpoena,
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that would be unfortunate. But the very act of blocking it itself indicates that there's something
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they really don't want us to hear, which gives us additional information as well. So I'm really
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looking forward to seeing what happens with the defense attorneys really embracing a potential
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entrapment case, understanding that the fact that you had instigators who are very likely feds is
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exculpatory information on the part of their clients and their defendants in these cases.
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Darren, I can't thank you enough for all of the work that you have done at Revolver.News
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on this subject. I don't know how it ends. I don't know who he was. But if you are looking for somebody
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who was the instigator and had a plan, he seems to be the number one candidate. You know, not people
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on talk radio or podcasts who are saying, hey, we've got to, you know, fight, fight, fight. Let me, let me
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ask you what we do know about him. Where does he, where does he come from? What does he do? What's his
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history? Well, he has an interesting background, like, like many people who end up becoming sort of
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jobbers and contractors for this type of work. He does have a military background. He's a Marine.
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He also has a background as the president of the Arizona chapter of the Oath Keepers militia group.
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And those familiar with Revolver.News' reporting will see that the Oath Keepers is the most heavily
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prosecuted, quote unquote, boogeyman militia group associated with one sick. And it's a whole other
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thread that we've investigated and reported on that a lot of the Oath Keepers people who are underlings,
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who are being hit with very serious charges. They're being hit with conspiracy charges.
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And when you look at the charging documents, the charging documents cite the words and the actions
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and the behaviors of Stuart Rhodes, who's the founder and head of it, who, for whatever reason,
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is not only uncharged a year later, a year later, he hasn't even been subject to a proper search.
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The only search that he's been subjected to was a single cell phone four months after January 6th.
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And so it just happens to be the case that Ray Epps was the president of the Arizona chapter of this
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very same militia group. And we have all kinds of footage of him palling around with Stuart Rhodes
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as well, which is an interesting connection, to say the least.
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There is at least really heavy smoke, whether there is a fire there and he is the center of it.
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I don't know. But there are there are there are questions that must be answered by the government on this.
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So we have Rodney Davis on with us. He's a congressman from Illinois.
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He has just written a strongly worded letter, which I've always loved when it comes to the United Nations.
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But I don't know if he's going to get any answers on this. I hope he does.
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He's he's written a letter to Nancy Pelosi, and he's here to tell us the answers he's demanding,
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along with other Republicans. Congressman, how are you, sir?
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I'm doing great, Glenn. Thanks for having me on.
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You bet. You bet. OK, so what are the things you're asking for in this in this letter from Nancy Pelosi?
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Well, number one, Glenn, you know, Republicans condemned the violence that took place a year ago.
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That was unanimous. But here we are today, still left wondering what did the sergeant at arms of the House,
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the lead, the lead law enforcement official appointed directly by the speaker.
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What did he do in preparation leading up to January 6th?
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And all I've ever asked for as the lead Republican on the respective oversight committee is just to get the communications.
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We want to know what preparations were made and the only person standing in the way of us getting the communications from her own appointee
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who controls the House security operations is Speaker Pelosi.
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So you, of course, are going to ask for these things.
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You've just asked for the the emails and the transmissions back and forth on preparations for January 6th.
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He said that he offered the National Guard to Washington.
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I don't know if that's true or not, but that's what he said.
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And it's ironic, Glenn, that you've got U.S. citizens who no longer work for government,
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volunteering to turn over thousands of communications, text, emails, letters, etc.
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But Speaker Pelosi will not even turn over the communications of her own appointee who's in charge of security on the House side of the Capitol.
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He was the current government employee that she appoints will also not turn that information over to us.
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And we can get a lot of answers based on conflicting testimony in front of the Senate investigation almost, you know, just under a year ago.
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And we ought to be able to get the answers because the American people deserve to know why the security posture was so bad.
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And frankly, Glenn, I don't think it's any better today if we were to go through another event like we did.
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I mean, unless you're unless you're coming in disguised as covid.
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Congressman, let me ask you, are you going to be able to get any of these answers?
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I mean, it seems that bad people do bad things all over the country now and nobody's ever held accountable.
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Do you is there any teeth that can be engaged to get the speaker to comply?
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Well, unfortunately, the House is a very majority driven institution.
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And remember, the Capitol Police Chief cannot make a single security decision without going to Speaker Pelosi's appointed sergeant at arms.
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It's when I'm the chairman of the House Administration Committee, when Republicans take over Congress in November of 2022.
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I want all of these communications at that time.
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And if they are destroyed or they no longer exist when I get there, I will hold as chairman of the House Admin Committee anyone who's responsible for that criminally accountable.
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And I dare them to try and to try and not preserve those communications.
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So, Congressman, explain what the end game here is.
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I mean, I just can't figure out unless they really, truly believe they're going to have power till the end of time.
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What is the end game here that you think they're playing?
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I wish I could get into their minds and find out what their end games are.
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And this is where the Speaker likes to deflect that she has no jurisdiction over the Capitol Security.
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Her own legislative counsel, general counsel, is the one that's telling the Sergeant-at-Arms that he cannot turn this information over to us.
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After conflicting testimony in the Senate between then-Sergeant-at-Arms Paul Irving and then-Police Chief Steve Sund, who are no longer in their jobs,
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the current Sergeant-at-Arms will not turn this over.
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However, their end game is to delay and deflect.
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And then when we do take the majority, my goal is to make sure that we get the answers we need.
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Because my job as the lead Republican on this House Admin Committee and as the future chairman of that committee
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is to make sure the security posture of the Capitol never fails again.
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Congressman, I was, um, I talked to the president last night, did an interview with him.
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Um, and I, I gave him a list of all of the agencies that need to be cleared out from top to bottom.
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And it's going to take enormous courage to clean this nest of vipers out.
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Um, and, uh, and it's, it's going to, it's going to take partners to do it as well.
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The, the, um, people that have power, all that anyone wants, I think both Republican and Democrat,
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all that people want is that if you actually did something that you pay a price,
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like I have no problem with people who broke into the Capitol, did damage or whatever.
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I have no problem charging them and having them go to jail for a few months, not political,
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but because they broke other laws, the same needs to go for the people in Congress.
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Do you believe the Republicans have the spine and the cleanliness, if you will,
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You know, I can't speak for anybody else in Congress, except for myself, Glenn.
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And I can tell you that I will do everything within the power of my committee as the chair
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of the house admin committee to hold them criminally accountable, especially if they,
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they do not abide by our preservation requests.
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So yes, I do believe the Republicans as a whole can hold the Democrats accountable,
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And my job on this particular committee is to make sure that the Capitol is safe.
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And also when we take over, I'll make sure the Capitol is open again so that people,
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student groups can come back and see what the Capitol and the entire complex is all about.
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I don't know if you have the answer to this or looked into it.
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We can't seem to get any real information from anybody about how many people are still being held
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We, we don't know the conditions that these people are, are living in who were arrested last year.
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Is there, is there, is there any way to get that information?
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Well, when, yes, when, when we take over the house and we have chairman Jim Jordan of the,
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of the judiciary committee, the chairman Jamie Comer of the oversight committee and me on house
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administration, you know, we're going to do, we're going to ask for those officials responsible
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for what we've seen, even the judicial branch say, hang on a second, something's not right here
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We're going to have to have them come in and testify.
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And remember the only office that has been declared off limits for this January 6th select committee
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When you look at, um, um, the Capitol police, it is run by Nancy Pelosi.
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It is a, it's, it's the tool, if you will, or the police force for the house majority leader.
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I cannot think of a reason why our founders did it that way.
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Maybe, maybe they just trusted that, you know, people would always be on the up and up, but
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do you have any idea what's going on with the Capitol police and their new approach to
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being an intelligence arm of, uh, our government?
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Well, the intelligence division of the Capitol police is one of the main divisions that failed
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Evidence clearly shows that they were given direct intelligence from the Norfolk FBI office
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that said an imminent attack on the Capitol may be forthcoming.
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The police chief of the Capitol police at the time didn't even have that intelligence.
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I spoke with him the day after and the multiple days after.
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And this is a problem that has yet to be fixed in my opinion.
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That Capitol police chief can't make security decisions on his own.
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It's got to go through the political appointee, the sergeant at arms.
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Should the, uh, Capitol police be something that could be FOIA'd?
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Because we can't even, we can't even have a Freedom of Information Act, uh, that they respond
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to because they fall into a different category that is controlled by the Speaker of the House.
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I don't think that's good for the Republicans or the Democrats or independents to ever have that.
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I'm glad you brought that up, Glenn, because long before January 6th, when I took over the
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Leader of Public on the House Administration Committee, I introduced a bill to reform the
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processes that the Capitol police follow, make them more transparent, make them more accountable.
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And I did not get that bill even in one committee hearing, or be able to have one markup of
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it, be able to debate the need to open up and make the Capitol police more transparent.
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Uh, Representative, uh, Congressman Rodney Davis from Illinois.
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Um, Rodney, when you become, uh, the, uh, the chairman, you call me and I will do everything I
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can to rally the troops, to make sure you can change this with the Capitol police.
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I think with them being a secretive operation, it is a very, very dangerous thing to the