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00:00:00.000 Welcome to the podcast. Glenn Beck has COVID. Yes, his second bout with COVID now.

00:00:06.800 I just, you know, at this point, I just seem, he just seems to like having it. I don't know.

00:00:11.640 It's the Omicron wave and everyone's getting it all over again. Glenn has COVID. He is here today,

00:00:16.200 however, a little scratchy voice. He's pushing through it. It's not as bad as it was back in

00:00:20.880 2020. So that's, we're thankful for that. He will bring us up to date on January 6th,

00:00:27.100 talk about a New York Times hit piece on him and some others trying to paint him as an

00:00:31.800 insurrectionist. We have some of the details of one particular story involved in the riots

00:00:37.800 at the Capitol. We don't have answers to someone who is really a kind of a suspicious, strange

00:00:43.880 story. We'll get into that. We also have Representative Rodney Davis on trying to find

00:00:49.080 out answers as to what Nancy Pelosi was doing on January 6th. Why can't we get information

00:00:54.240 from Nancy Pelosi about some basic questions about January 6th? And we get into the Donald

00:01:00.060 Trump interview Glenn did that aired last night. You can get that at blazetv.com slash Glenn. We'll

00:01:05.160 play some of it for you today. Really interesting stuff from the former president and kind of a hint

00:01:09.720 as to whether he's going to be running or not. That's all coming up on today's podcast. You can

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00:01:31.660 the podcast. Welcome to the Glenn Beck program. Let me go to Eric in Indiana. Hello, Eric. Welcome

00:01:51.500 to the Glenn Beck program. Hey, Glenn. Thanks for having me on. Big fan. Long time supporter. Thank

00:01:57.160 you. Hey, I hope you feel better soon. Thank you. Hmm. Is he? I don't know. It does not seem to be

00:02:06.000 you want to be talking. No, that's okay. It's your turn to talk here. I just didn't want to talk over

00:02:09.660 you. Yeah, I listened to the interview last night, Glenn, and I just thought it was fantastic. And it's,

00:02:14.120 it's the first time since independence day, 2012, where I felt truly hopeful for returning to

00:02:21.120 constitutional values. Um, I just thought that last night was about the future. It was about

00:02:27.060 unifying. And like you said, where they're just constantly trying to divide us. I mean,

00:02:31.260 members of my own, own family, I'm vaccinated, but my, my daughters aren't, they won't meet with my

00:02:36.840 daughters. Like I, and so like we're divided and like no doctor told them to do that or anything,

00:02:41.580 you know, literally the president did. And so I just think that Trump's interview last night

00:02:47.100 was so unifying and so, so inspirational that I'm, I'm fully on board now. And like during the,

00:02:54.020 um, 2016 primaries, um, here in Indianapolis, I went to the Ted Cruz convention where he announced,

00:02:59.960 uh, Carly Fiorina as, uh, as his running mate, you know, and, you know, Trump had said things like

00:03:05.600 horse face and lying Ted. And I never liked that stuff, you know, and I was always a supporter because

00:03:11.000 I do feel like he had a role as a drain the swamp kind of guy, a, uh, him in the nose,

00:03:16.780 you know, fight back against the media kind of guy, but I never saw him as the healer that you

00:03:21.140 had talked about in the past and others had talked about, but man, that interview last night really

00:03:25.540 turned me around. And I'm telling you, it wasn't since, like I said, 2012, you know, the tea party

00:03:30.680 stuff. I was there in DC on independence day. I was there in DC on a September 12th. And man,

00:03:36.380 that was such an awesome movement. I had such high hopes. And it wasn't until last night, man,

00:03:41.460 that, uh, Trump, Trump brought that back for me. And this morning I called my dad and I just said,

00:03:45.560 I'm on board. I said, we got to get this guy reelected. And I think you're right. I think

00:03:48.840 he's running. I mean, watching that interview again last night, I mean, he's running.

00:03:52.700 Oh, I am excited. I'm fired up this morning. Yeah, that's great. I'm really glad to hear that,

00:03:57.300 Eric. Um, you know, that was my intent. I talked to him before we went down there and I said,

00:04:01.580 look, you know, everybody is just, um, talking to you and we're re litigating the past. I don't

00:04:09.080 want to talk about the past. I want to talk about the future. Cause I think people are looking at

00:04:14.000 what's going on. Here's the really bad thing about September 11th, Eric, thanks for your call. Um,

00:04:18.700 the bad thing about not September 11th, um, January 6th, January 6th, they are now the press is using

00:04:25.680 this as a distraction on all of the really important problems. Our schools are corruption

00:04:32.800 in our FBI, the justice department, the department of education, um, gas prices, meat prices, uh,

00:04:40.540 inflation spending out of control. All of these things that are happening, Putin, China, they all

00:04:48.240 go to the back burner because they're, uh, focused on, uh, January 11th, sorry, January 6th. I can't get

00:04:56.120 this date, right. January 6th, because they're focused on that. Do you know how many good, decent

00:05:04.940 Democrats are feeling alone and feeling like, gosh, it's just me that's going through all of these

00:05:14.720 things. I guess, I guess it's, I guess that's not important that this must be the really important

00:05:20.960 thing. They're really being screwed by the left and, um, and by the media. And that's tragic,

00:05:28.480 really tragic. But he got on last night and I don't know. Um, I'd love to hear from you if you

00:05:34.580 watched it last night, 888-727-BECK. At the end, my wife said, you know, that's the first time I've ever,

00:05:40.560 I've ever seen an interview with him where it seemed like just two people hanging out,

00:05:45.460 having a conversation. And I felt that way as well. Um, uh, it was just a different interview

00:05:53.360 and very, very, very hopeful. In fact, can we play, if you wonder if he is, uh, running or not,

00:06:01.480 can we go to, um, the, um, the sought where, where he is, he is saying it was at the very end. And I

00:06:09.100 don't know if you, you missed this. Um, but it was at the very end where he said, um, yeah, where is

00:06:16.780 it? Where he talked about, you know, making America great again. Play that please. It's so sad,

00:06:23.460 our country right now. I don't think we've ever been lower. And despite all of the witch hunts and

00:06:28.620 the phony Russia, Russia, Russia, impeachments, it was a beautiful time. We had the greatest economy

00:06:34.060 in history. We then had the China virus come in and then I rebuilt the economy. I really rebuilt it

00:06:39.400 twice. The second time harder than the first, but we had the greatest economy, the greatest everything.

00:06:44.900 It was a glamor pit. It was a beautiful period. And now I see what's happening with energy, with

00:06:50.960 inflation, with the military, with these clowns. Uh, and I said, you know what, let's put out a book 0.89

00:06:58.480 talking about how beautiful it was because we're going to make it that way again. Hmm. What does that

00:07:05.800 mean, Stu? We made America great once. We'll make America great again, again, again, uh, my God.

00:07:15.700 Okay. To me, there is no way he's, uh, he's not running. We'll play more of the interview coming up in a

00:07:23.020 little while. I was thinking about what kind of person it would take to not run. If you were Donald

00:07:28.560 Trump right now, the nomination is his, he doesn't have to do anything to get it. He he's dozens of

00:07:37.560 points ahead of anyone else who would be challenging him. Now, of course, anything can happen. You know,

00:07:44.900 you never know what the future will bring, but he would have to basically, um, I, you know, it would be

00:07:51.400 a very strong man to say, no, I don't want this nomination unless he just thinks it's just too

00:07:56.160 much of a disruption to his life. It's his, he doesn't have to, he doesn't have to even work for

00:08:00.540 the nomination. It's his. So he becomes a one in two shot. And the other person is Joe Biden,

00:08:06.300 probably who is, uh, terrible and is running the country into the ground. I know you think maybe

00:08:12.940 Hillary runs. I'm sure other people will run as a, as a challenge, uh, especially the way this is 1.00

00:08:18.760 going with Biden. If it continues to go this poorly, he probably won't even run for reelection

00:08:23.180 and they'll have to run somebody else. So, you know, how could you resist it? I mean, unless you

00:08:29.580 just didn't think it was important. Oh, I think you could resist it for another reason. In the

00:08:35.200 interview last night, he said, uh, you know, I really had two jobs, try to get the country back

00:08:41.560 on track and survive. Yeah. And it, it's true. I mean, he, he was fighting for his survival every day

00:08:53.920 since, you know, the minute he came down the escalator, he was fighting for his own survival.

00:09:00.300 And, and I don't think he saw that coming. I thought he would, I think he thought that,

00:09:05.880 you know, he'd still get the good press, blah, blah, blah. And, you know, they would be harsh on him,

00:09:10.640 but not like that. And, uh, it's because he's an outsider, but he was really clear. You know,

00:09:17.160 we had dinner afterwards and, um, you know, when the, when the president, former president says,

00:09:22.760 what are you doing for dinner tonight? The right answer is, I don't know, McDonald's,

00:09:27.780 because that's what I said. And he looked at me, he actually said, you and I, we could eat together

00:09:35.080 for a very long time. And I said, yes, we could. Anyway, um, we had dinner with the first lady and

00:09:43.560 I think that's what wounded him deeper than anything else was the attacks on her. So unfair and so cruel,

00:09:53.880 uh, on her. And I think, you know, for him to go back into the arena, would you, I mean,

00:10:02.340 you know what it was like, Stu, when we were at Fox and literally every day we were fighting for our

00:10:09.140 life. Do you just immediately say, oh yeah, I'd go back? No, that's, and that's why I, that's why I

00:10:15.720 said, I think the only decision for him is if it disrupts his personal life, right? I mean,

00:10:20.120 like you think, think of a person like Ron DeSantis, who's thinking about potentially running,

00:10:24.180 he's got a million things to think about, right? It's not just whether it disrupts his personal

00:10:30.300 life, but it's like, can I win? Who would I be running against? Uh, you know, uh, do I, you know,

00:10:36.100 how do I play this? When's the right time to announce? None of those things are factors with

00:10:40.520 Trump. All he has to do is say yes. And it's his, I, you know, I, there's no poll that shows anyone

00:10:45.680 can even come close to challenging him. So it's just really like, okay, let me make a personal

00:10:50.800 decision based on myself and my family. What's the best thing and the country. What, what do I

00:10:55.360 think is the best way forward with everyone else? There's, you know, there's a, there's a million

00:10:59.880 political calculations to factor in. You also, and the, the, the number one thing you have to factor

00:11:06.160 in, if you're anyone other than Donald Trump is, is Donald Trump going to run? Because if you're

00:11:10.400 Ron DeSantis and you announce, and then two weeks later, Trump announces, you are now a, you know,

00:11:16.140 you're the second fiddle on the ticket. You're at best running for vice president in most circumstances.

00:11:22.460 There is, if I were thinking, which it would be crazy for me to think this, but if I were thinking

00:11:27.060 I'm Ron DeSantis, let's say it that way. And I'm thinking I might run for president. There's no way,

00:11:33.220 no way until I have a hard, fast public no from Donald Trump that he's not running.

00:11:40.400 I mean, it'll be a, it'll be a cruise to the, uh, to the nomination.

00:11:46.200 And what's of course makes this difficult, uh, you know, and Donald Trump knows the media. He's

00:11:51.180 obviously, uh, very, very good at understanding what gets attention in the media. He knows the

00:11:59.460 second he gives a hard, fast no, a lot of his power drains away, right? Like he, you know, he'll,

00:12:05.720 I think the kingmaker in the Republican party for as long as he wants to be, but like, you know,

00:12:10.660 the, the media circus around Donald Trump starts going away when he says, I'm not running anymore.

00:12:16.460 Um, he's now, now the focus goes to Ron DeSantis or whoever else is going to run. So there's no

00:12:23.540 incentive for him not to keep it alive, even if he wasn't running. But I mean, again, everybody inside

00:12:28.660 his inner circle, people who he, who are in his inner circle that are advisors to him that are,

00:12:34.440 you know, on his team are coming out and publicly telling the media he's 99.9% running. Uh, so like

00:12:41.840 if he wanted that messaging to stop, they would stop it. Yeah. He, I mean, he clearly is running.

00:12:49.360 And I think that means he's the nominee. And I think you look, honestly, I'm, I'm more convinced

00:12:54.340 Donald Trump is the nominee of the, of the Republican party than I am. Joe Biden is the

00:12:58.360 nominee of the democratic party and he's the sitting president. Absolutely. Yeah. Or Kamala

00:13:02.760 Harris. I have no idea who they're going to run in 2024. Cause those two will not, that's, that's a

00:13:08.820 disaster. That won't win. I have, that won't win. I have no idea who they could actually run,

00:13:14.620 but I will tell you that I'd be shocked if Donald Trump didn't win. And if he approaches

00:13:20.120 the election like he did last night where he was, where he's just laying out a strategy

00:13:28.240 of hope and doesn't get waylaid into all of the stuff. Um, I think he's, I think he's a

00:13:37.840 shoe in because all of those people who voted for him the first time and then were convinced

00:13:42.860 that something was corrupt. Now they're seeing, wait a minute, corruption, no corruption. Uh,

00:13:49.740 we know what's going on here. These guys are Marxists. These guys are not helping me and my

00:13:56.060 family. It's costing me a fortune because of the policies of this guy. And I think they'll get all

00:14:01.860 of those people back that voted for Donald Trump and then some, and then some get those people back

00:14:08.340 from 2016. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:14:19.740 So let's go to, uh, Darren, uh, Darren Beatty. He is a former professor, Duke university,

00:14:32.800 former white house speech writer, and the founder of revolver news, the anniversary of January 6th.

00:14:40.740 So let's get an update, uh, from, uh, from Darren. Hi Darren. Hey, thanks for having me again.

00:14:47.100 You bet. So I wanted to talk to you because, um, the press is making it, uh, that there's all kinds

00:14:55.800 of conspiracy theories that the right is buying into conspiracy theories about this. I don't know

00:15:01.880 what the truth is. Um, I just know that there are a few things that don't make any sense. First of all,

00:15:08.280 it's the worst one ever. Uh, and yet nobody has been charged with sedition or anything like it.

00:15:14.560 Um, and then you have players like Ray Epps. Can we play the audio here of Ray Epps? Listen, the audio.

00:15:22.400 I know. In fact, tomorrow, I don't even like to say it cause I'll be arrested. Well, let's not say it.

00:15:28.040 We need, we need to go, I'll say it. All right. We need to go in to the Capitol.

00:15:35.020 Let's go.

00:15:37.020 I'm going to put it out there. I'm probably going to go to jail.

00:15:40.200 Tomorrow. We need to go into the Capitol.

00:15:43.520 So here he is, um, talking clearly about going into the Capitol. He is stirring people up the night

00:15:54.520 before in this last clip, uh, where he was saying that you could hear them saying FBI stooge, FBI

00:16:00.700 plant. Um, but he was on a most wanted list and then nothing happened. Can you tell me the story

00:16:08.880 about this? Yeah. I mean, this here's, uh, a remarkable, uh, case, this individual Ray Epps.

00:16:15.440 And just to give a bit fuller, uh, context for what his involvement was, he's not only ubiquitous

00:16:22.800 the evening before January 6th, going to multiple different groups with multiple different agendas

00:16:29.480 and really corralling them and focusing them on this new and utterly bizarre mission to go into

00:16:37.400 the Capitol. And you can hear a little bit about how people's reactions. What are you talking about?

00:16:42.560 Fed, you're a Fed. He remained persistent. He went to every different group and he focused them on this

00:16:48.620 mission to go into the Capitol. And what's important to say is that this isn't just some random

00:16:53.860 drunk on the evening of January 5th that we never heard from again. He followed up on this stated

00:17:00.720 mission the next day on January 6th. He's a veritable where's Waldo. And if your listeners go

00:17:07.420 to revolver.news and read, uh, the first Ray Epps report, we have tons of video evidence documenting

00:17:15.380 his every move on January 6th. He's everywhere. And he's telling the crowds after Trump's speech is over,

00:17:23.300 we're, we're all going to the Capitol. That's where our problems are. Our enemy is the Capitol.

00:17:30.360 And sure enough, at 12 53 PM, crucial to note, Trump is still speaking at this time, but at 12 53 PM,

00:17:40.560 Ray Epps is not at the Trump speech. He flew all to DC all the way from Arizona. He's wearing a Trump hat,

00:17:47.120 but he's not at the Trump speech. What's more important to him is he's right there

00:17:52.180 by the metal barricade. And he whispers into someone's ear. And two seconds later, that someone

00:17:59.020 engages in the first and decisive and fateful breach of the Capitol grounds that starts the

00:18:05.720 whole thing off. This is the same guy who the previous evening was telling everyone we need to

00:18:10.980 go into the Capitol. Initially, as you point out, the FBI thought he was an important enough to

00:18:16.400 include him as one of the 20 most wanted January 6th offenders. They said, we need to identify him.

00:18:23.560 Well, then the internet identified him and the feds FBI cricket until revolver.news ran a piece

00:18:31.020 basically implicating the FBI in January 6th. And the day after this came out, the feds quietly scrubbed

00:18:39.240 Epps' name and his face from their public database. And since then, the only thing that any

00:18:46.020 official FBI agent has said about Ray Epps is to deny all knowledge of his existence.

00:18:53.520 So we have the tape.

00:18:56.400 Um, can you, can you, can, are we ever going to get an answer on, on this? Is there any,

00:19:04.120 any movement on this?

00:19:06.680 Yes, that's an excellent question. I'm really glad that you asked that because

00:19:10.440 obviously this is very important to me. It's very important to the country.

00:19:14.900 And we're not going to get any answer from A.G. Merrick Garland, who's been a mop-up boy 0.78

00:19:20.660 for precisely these types of fed infiltration operations going back decades. We're not going

00:19:26.840 to get any answers from the sham exercise in political theater that is the January 6th committee.

00:19:34.460 The only place we're going to get answers, I think there are two possibilities if we're going to get

00:19:39.320 ultimate answers at all. One possibility, and this might sound crazy, but I've become very familiar

00:19:45.780 with the way that these fed operations work. And a lot of times the higher up handlers of people

00:19:52.420 like Ray Epps, they think of them as pawns. And Ray Epps may have been tricked in some capacity.

00:19:59.660 Maybe he was told that the reason that he was doing what he was doing was for something that

00:20:04.600 turned out to be not the case. Maybe he feels like he was misled. Maybe he didn't really fully

00:20:10.240 understand that he was going to be used as an instrument in an agenda to label half the country

00:20:16.200 as domestic terrorists. But for whatever reason, Ray Epps or many of the other actors who are clearly

00:20:21.700 feds or fed informants, they can step up, they have the power to expose their handlers and to break

00:20:28.680 the case wide open. So that's one option. The second option is the defense attorneys for the

00:20:35.720 defendants in January 6 cases. And on this, I'm cautiously optimistic. One defense attorney for Kelly

00:20:43.700 Meggs, who is a Oathkeeper defendant, has on the basis of Revolver.News' reporting, issued a subpoena

00:20:51.960 demanding the testimony from Ray Epps and Stuart Rhodes, who is the founder and leader of the Oathkeeper's

00:21:00.940 militia group, who is also curiously uncharged. And so one of two things can happen. Either the subpoena

00:21:08.860 goes through and they actually do have to testify under oath, in which case that can be extremely

00:21:15.200 interesting. Or in the case of agents and informants, the government has the power to block

00:21:21.980 subpoena. And if the government steps in and intervenes and somehow blocks the subpoena,

00:21:28.800 that would be unfortunate. But the very act of blocking it itself indicates that there's something

00:21:34.580 they really don't want us to hear, which gives us additional information as well. So I'm really

00:21:40.140 looking forward to seeing what happens with the defense attorneys really embracing a potential

00:21:45.540 entrapment case, understanding that the fact that you had instigators who are very likely feds is

00:21:52.580 exculpatory information on the part of their clients and their defendants in these cases.

00:21:57.980 Darren, I can't thank you enough for all of the work that you have done at Revolver.News

00:22:02.400 on this subject. I don't know how it ends. I don't know who he was. But if you are looking for somebody

00:22:09.740 who was the instigator and had a plan, he seems to be the number one candidate. You know, not people

00:22:18.960 on talk radio or podcasts who are saying, hey, we've got to, you know, fight, fight, fight. Let me, let me

00:22:27.620 ask you what we do know about him. Where does he, where does he come from? What does he do? What's his

00:22:34.780 history? Well, he has an interesting background, like, like many people who end up becoming sort of

00:22:42.280 jobbers and contractors for this type of work. He does have a military background. He's a Marine.

00:22:48.860 He also has a background as the president of the Arizona chapter of the Oath Keepers militia group.

00:22:56.960 And those familiar with Revolver.News' reporting will see that the Oath Keepers is the most heavily 0.96

00:23:02.300 prosecuted, quote unquote, boogeyman militia group associated with one sick. And it's a whole other

00:23:10.180 thread that we've investigated and reported on that a lot of the Oath Keepers people who are underlings,

00:23:15.900 who are being hit with very serious charges. They're being hit with conspiracy charges.

00:23:21.400 And when you look at the charging documents, the charging documents cite the words and the actions

00:23:27.100 and the behaviors of Stuart Rhodes, who's the founder and head of it, who, for whatever reason,

00:23:34.180 is not only uncharged a year later, a year later, he hasn't even been subject to a proper search.

00:23:40.840 The only search that he's been subjected to was a single cell phone four months after January 6th.

00:23:48.880 And so it just happens to be the case that Ray Epps was the president of the Arizona chapter of this

00:23:55.600 very same militia group. And we have all kinds of footage of him palling around with Stuart Rhodes

00:24:01.140 as well, which is an interesting connection, to say the least.

00:24:05.660 There is at least really heavy smoke, whether there is a fire there and he is the center of it.

00:24:13.300 I don't know. But there are there are there are questions that must be answered by the government on this.

00:24:19.460 So we have Rodney Davis on with us. He's a congressman from Illinois.

00:24:34.180 He has just written a strongly worded letter, which I've always loved when it comes to the United Nations.

00:24:42.700 But I don't know if he's going to get any answers on this. I hope he does.

00:24:47.000 He's he's written a letter to Nancy Pelosi, and he's here to tell us the answers he's demanding,

00:24:54.360 along with other Republicans. Congressman, how are you, sir?

00:24:59.560 I'm doing great, Glenn. Thanks for having me on.

00:25:02.600 You bet. You bet. OK, so what are the things you're asking for in this in this letter from Nancy Pelosi?

00:25:09.640 Well, number one, Glenn, you know, Republicans condemned the violence that took place a year ago.

00:25:14.740 That was unanimous. But here we are today, still left wondering what did the sergeant at arms of the House,

00:25:22.860 the lead, the lead law enforcement official appointed directly by the speaker.

00:25:27.540 What did he do in preparation leading up to January 6th?

00:25:32.040 There has been conflicting testimony.

00:25:34.160 And all I've ever asked for as the lead Republican on the respective oversight committee is just to get the communications.

00:25:40.180 We want to know what preparations were made and the only person standing in the way of us getting the communications from her own appointee

00:25:48.260 who controls the House security operations is Speaker Pelosi.

00:25:53.320 OK, so you're not asking for anything special.

00:25:56.180 You you sit on the oversight committee.

00:25:58.240 You are the lead opposition.

00:26:01.300 So you, of course, are going to ask for these things.

00:26:04.420 You've just asked for the the emails and the transmissions back and forth on preparations for January 6th.

00:26:14.220 Now, I've talked to Donald Trump.

00:26:15.440 He said that he offered the National Guard to Washington.

00:26:20.720 I don't know if that's true or not, but that's what he said.

00:26:23.120 But he said he was turned down.

00:26:25.400 Nancy Pelosi did.

00:26:26.960 Did they turn help down?

00:26:30.840 Well, that's what we don't know.

00:26:33.040 And it's ironic, Glenn, that you've got U.S. citizens who no longer work for government,

00:26:38.780 volunteering to turn over thousands of communications, text, emails, letters, etc.

00:26:43.420 to the January 6th select committee.

00:26:45.900 But Speaker Pelosi will not even turn over the communications of her own appointee who's in charge of security on the House side of the Capitol. 0.92

00:26:55.840 And he's a government employee.

00:26:57.440 He was the current government employee that she appoints will also not turn that information over to us.

00:27:04.060 The question is, what is she hiding?

00:27:06.000 And we can get a lot of answers based on conflicting testimony in front of the Senate investigation almost, you know, just under a year ago.

00:27:14.880 And we ought to be able to get the answers because the American people deserve to know why the security posture was so bad.

00:27:21.820 And frankly, Glenn, I don't think it's any better today if we were to go through another event like we did.

00:27:28.560 I don't think so either.

00:27:30.320 I mean, unless you're unless you're coming in disguised as covid.

00:27:34.720 Congressman, let me ask you, are you going to be able to get any of these answers?

00:27:40.460 I mean, it seems that bad people do bad things all over the country now and nobody's ever held accountable.

00:27:49.340 Do you is there any teeth that can be engaged to get the speaker to comply?

00:27:58.100 Well, unfortunately, the House is a very majority driven institution.

00:28:02.460 And remember, the Capitol Police Chief cannot make a single security decision without going to Speaker Pelosi's appointed sergeant at arms.

00:28:12.540 That's her own political appointee. 1.00

00:28:14.880 You know what?

00:28:15.420 I'm going to get this information.

00:28:16.900 It's when I'm the chairman of the House Administration Committee, when Republicans take over Congress in November of 2022.

00:28:24.560 And I have laid out that I am serious.

00:28:27.640 I want all of these communications at that time.

00:28:30.120 And if they are destroyed or they no longer exist when I get there, I will hold as chairman of the House Admin Committee anyone who's responsible for that criminally accountable.

00:28:41.060 And you will be able to do that?

00:28:44.120 Absolutely, I will.

00:28:45.880 And I dare them to try and to try and not preserve those communications.

00:28:50.640 And I dare them to test me on that.

00:28:54.040 So, Congressman, explain what the end game here is.

00:28:58.180 I mean, I just can't figure out unless they really, truly believe they're going to have power till the end of time.

00:29:04.560 This is all going to come out at some point.

00:29:08.100 What is the end game here that you think they're playing?

00:29:12.740 I wish I could get into their minds and find out what their end games are.

00:29:16.820 But all they do is play political games.

00:29:18.720 And this is where the Speaker likes to deflect that she has no jurisdiction over the Capitol Security. 1.00

00:29:25.420 We all know that's BS.

00:29:27.140 Her own legislative counsel, general counsel, is the one that's telling the Sergeant-at-Arms that he cannot turn this information over to us.

00:29:36.160 After conflicting testimony in the Senate between then-Sergeant-at-Arms Paul Irving and then-Police Chief Steve Sund, who are no longer in their jobs,

00:29:44.260 the current Sergeant-at-Arms will not turn this over.

00:29:46.340 However, their end game is to delay and deflect.

00:29:50.200 And then when we do take the majority, my goal is to make sure that we get the answers we need.

00:29:54.880 Because my job as the lead Republican on this House Admin Committee and as the future chairman of that committee

00:30:01.700 is to make sure the security posture of the Capitol never fails again.

00:30:06.880 Congressman, I was, um, I talked to the president last night, did an interview with him.

00:30:14.160 Um, and I, I gave him a list of all of the agencies that need to be cleared out from top to bottom.

00:30:20.740 And it's going to take enormous courage to clean this nest of vipers out.

00:30:27.980 Um, and, uh, and it's, it's going to, it's going to take partners to do it as well.

00:30:35.260 The, the, um, people that have power, all that anyone wants, I think both Republican and Democrat,

00:30:43.120 all that people want is that if you actually did something that you pay a price,

00:30:50.400 like I have no problem with people who broke into the Capitol, did damage or whatever.

00:30:55.900 I have no problem charging them and having them go to jail for a few months, not political,

00:31:01.660 but because they broke other laws, the same needs to go for the people in Congress.

00:31:07.400 Do you believe the Republicans have the spine and the cleanliness, if you will,

00:31:15.480 to be able to take this up against them?

00:31:19.520 You know, I can't speak for anybody else in Congress, except for myself, Glenn.

00:31:23.900 And I can tell you that I will do everything within the power of my committee as the chair

00:31:29.220 of the house admin committee to hold them criminally accountable, especially if they,

00:31:34.080 they do not abide by our preservation requests.

00:31:36.600 So yes, I do believe the Republicans as a whole can hold the Democrats accountable,

00:31:42.880 but I can only do what my job is.

00:31:44.920 And my job on this particular committee is to make sure that the Capitol is safe.

00:31:50.260 And also when we take over, I'll make sure the Capitol is open again so that people,

00:31:55.560 student groups can come back and see what the Capitol and the entire complex is all about.

00:32:01.520 One last question.

00:32:04.340 I don't know if you have the answer to this or looked into it.

00:32:06.640 We can't seem to get any information.

00:32:09.200 It's like Gitmo.

00:32:11.320 We can't seem to get any real information from anybody about how many people are still being held

00:32:18.480 that haven't been either charged or tried.

00:32:21.240 We, we don't know the conditions that these people are, are living in who were arrested last year.

00:32:28.300 Is there, is there, is there any way to get that information?

00:32:33.380 Well, when, yes, when, when we take over the house and we have chairman Jim Jordan of the,

00:32:39.080 of the judiciary committee, the chairman Jamie Comer of the oversight committee and me on house

00:32:43.920 administration, you know, we're going to do, we're going to ask for those officials responsible

00:32:49.500 for what we've seen, even the judicial branch say, hang on a second, something's not right here

00:32:55.160 at the DC prison facility.

00:32:57.600 We're going to have to have them come in and testify. 0.79

00:33:00.000 The Democrats don't want to hear from them.

00:33:01.760 And right.

00:33:02.680 And remember the only office that has been declared off limits for this January 6th select committee

00:33:08.860 is Nancy Pelosi's office.

00:33:11.360 When you look at, um, um, the Capitol police, it is run by Nancy Pelosi.

00:33:23.400 It is a, it's, it's the tool, if you will, or the police force for the house majority leader.

00:33:32.340 I cannot think of a reason why our founders did it that way.

00:33:36.980 Maybe, maybe they just trusted that, you know, people would always be on the up and up, but

00:33:42.240 do you have any idea what's going on with the Capitol police and their new approach to

00:33:46.860 being an intelligence arm of, uh, our government?

00:33:52.840 Well, the intelligence division of the Capitol police is one of the main divisions that failed

00:33:57.180 leading up to January 6th.

00:33:59.760 Evidence clearly shows that they were given direct intelligence from the Norfolk FBI office

00:34:05.080 that said an imminent attack on the Capitol may be forthcoming.

00:34:08.980 The police chief of the Capitol police at the time didn't even have that intelligence.

00:34:13.840 I spoke with him the day after and the multiple days after.

00:34:18.100 And this is a problem that has yet to be fixed in my opinion.

00:34:22.720 But here's the thing, right?

00:34:24.440 That Capitol police chief can't make security decisions on his own.

00:34:28.140 It's got to go through the political appointee, the sergeant at arms.

00:34:31.520 One, uh, um, one last question.

00:34:37.140 Should the, uh, Capitol police be something that could be FOIA'd?

00:34:42.620 Because we can't even, we can't even have a Freedom of Information Act, uh, that they respond

00:34:47.480 to because they fall into a different category that is controlled by the Speaker of the House.

00:34:53.520 I don't think that's good for the Republicans or the Democrats or independents to ever have that.

00:34:58.220 Should this police force be able to be FOIA'd?

00:35:03.000 Well, you know what?

00:35:04.060 I'm glad you brought that up, Glenn, because long before January 6th, when I took over the

00:35:08.780 Leader of Public on the House Administration Committee, I introduced a bill to reform the

00:35:13.900 processes that the Capitol police follow, make them more transparent, make them more accountable.

00:35:18.940 And I did not get that bill even in one committee hearing, or be able to have one markup of

00:35:26.900 it, be able to debate the need to open up and make the Capitol police more transparent.

00:35:31.960 And I'll do that as the chairman.

00:35:34.660 Uh, Representative, uh, Congressman Rodney Davis from Illinois.

00:35:38.540 Um, Rodney, when you become, uh, the, uh, the chairman, you call me and I will do everything I

00:35:45.420 can to rally the troops, to make sure you can change this with the Capitol police.

00:35:49.820 I think with them being a secretive operation, it is a very, very dangerous thing to the

00:35:55.820 Republic.

00:35:56.440 So thank you so much for your hard work.

00:35:59.120 Well, thank you, Glenn.

00:36:00.280 Take care.

00:36:01.560 You bet.

00:36:01.940 Bye-bye.

00:36:02.560 Rodney Davis, Congressman from Illinois.

00:36:04.480 Na, na, na, na, na.

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