The Glenn Beck Program - October 20, 2022


Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Rep. Thomas Massie & David Green ｜ 10⧸20⧸22


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Glenn Beck and Stu discuss the latest in the CDC, the Ukraine crisis, and a story from Rolling Stone Magazine that could have implications for the future of the United States of America. Glenn also discusses a new report from ABC News that could change the course of the Cold War.

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00:00:00.000 Why aren't you just saying we should tell people to subscribe?
00:00:03.260 That's what I'm telling you is I need to start remembering to say that because I never say it.
00:00:07.100 And then, you know, I don't know.
00:00:09.040 Like, subscribe to...
00:00:09.740 So you're looking at me?
00:00:10.720 I can't remember my own name half of it.
00:00:12.380 I'm being critical of myself.
00:00:14.460 Okay, good.
00:00:15.100 And I'm asking you to join me in this wonderful parade.
00:00:17.620 I will die.
00:00:18.100 Absolutely.
00:00:19.000 Okay.
00:00:19.620 And you're losing your hair, too.
00:00:21.160 Oh, really?
00:00:21.660 Yeah.
00:00:21.940 Wow.
00:00:22.360 Out of so many different things.
00:00:25.700 This is...
00:00:27.220 The podcast.
00:00:27.900 The podcast.
00:00:28.480 Hey, welcome to the podcast.
00:00:29.280 And you should subscribe to it and Stude's America.
00:00:31.680 How about we...
00:00:32.100 They're both available right now.
00:00:33.520 Rate and review it.
00:00:34.440 Do all those things.
00:00:35.380 I'm supposed to say that every time and I never remember.
00:00:37.340 Today, we begin with a really...
00:00:39.600 A story that I have...
00:00:41.760 I don't think I've ever seen in America.
00:00:44.140 Would you agree with that, Stude?
00:00:45.640 Yes.
00:00:46.200 I've never seen...
00:00:46.680 It's a bizarre one.
00:00:47.360 This is like a bizarre Putin kind of story happening in our own country.
00:00:52.220 Then, we have Thomas Massillon, who tells us, you know, some other things about COVID.
00:00:57.220 What is happening today with the CDC and how you and your family are going to be affected by it.
00:01:05.860 Boy, the fear and the madness needs to end November 8th.
00:01:09.920 Just a quick reminder.
00:01:11.260 Yeah, yeah, yeah.
00:01:11.720 You can rank and review or whatever.
00:01:14.940 Vote.
00:01:15.620 Vote.
00:01:16.120 That's probably more important.
00:01:17.460 And we also have, I think, a great out-of-the-box thinker who is a very successful businessman
00:01:26.180 and also has come under fire by the federal government, how he survived and how he built
00:01:32.920 his business all on today's podcast.
00:01:35.860 First, Goldline.
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00:01:54.040 I mean, you know, I have light bulbs.
00:01:57.360 It might become a light bulb economy.
00:01:59.660 I don't know.
00:02:00.380 For a while, it might be a light bulb economy.
00:02:03.600 I'm pretty sure that at the end of the road, it's not, you know, Scooby Snacks.
00:02:08.860 It's probably gold or silver.
00:02:12.360 The world always resets to that.
00:02:15.100 And there's something disturbing I'm going to tell you about next week about what the
00:02:18.540 federal government, the treasury, is doing with our gold.
00:02:22.560 I spent all day yesterday and some of this morning and probably all day today and maybe
00:02:29.760 tomorrow trying to get an answer.
00:02:31.560 There's something happening that you need to know about.
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00:02:51.900 Here's the podcast.
00:02:52.440 You're listening to The Best of the Glenn Beck Program.
00:03:07.800 Hello, Stu.
00:03:09.100 How are you?
00:03:09.820 Glenn, how are you?
00:03:10.720 Oh, you know.
00:03:14.040 It's a ring endorsement of how you feel today.
00:03:16.840 Yeah, I think, yeah.
00:03:18.960 You're a little tense, I noticed, coming in.
00:03:21.580 And there's some news that seems to be a tad bothersome for the future of the Republic.
00:03:28.620 Yeah, there's a couple of stories out that are quite disturbing.
00:03:35.260 I think I'm going to start with this one, and I want to read it verbatim.
00:03:42.820 It's from Rolling Stone Magazine, something that I don't usually go to for all my facts
00:03:48.140 and figures.
00:03:48.940 Or anything else.
00:03:49.800 Or anything else.
00:03:50.560 But this is a really disturbing story.
00:03:56.080 And usually, the Rolling Stone Magazine is on the left.
00:04:00.100 And so, for them to bring this story to light is quite remarkable.
00:04:05.460 A minute before 5 a.m., April 27th, ABC News journalist James Gordon Meek fired off a single tweet with a single word.
00:04:19.440 Facts.
00:04:20.140 The network's national security investigative producer was responding to a former CIA agent and his take that the Ukrainian military with assistance from the U.S.
00:04:34.960 was thriving against Russian forces.
00:04:37.260 This agent's tweet, filled with acronyms indecipherable to the layperson like TTPs, UW and EW, was itself a reply to a missive from Washington Post's Pentagon reporter who noted the wealth of information that the U.S.
00:04:55.240 military had gathered about Russian military had gathered about Russian ops just by observing their combat strategy in real time.
00:05:02.520 The interchange illustrated the interplay between the national security community and those who cover it.
00:05:09.820 And no one straddled both worlds quite like ABC News Meek.
00:05:15.540 He was an Emmy-winning deep-dive journalist who was a former senior counterterrorism advisor and investigator for the House Homeland Security Commission.
00:05:26.500 His detractors within ABC, Meek was something of a military fanboy, but his track record of exclusives was undeniable,
00:05:35.540 breaking the news of foiled terrorist plots in New York City and the army's cover-up of the fratricidal death of private first-class David Sherratt in Iraq,
00:05:48.300 a bombshell that earned Meek a face-to-face meeting with President Obama.
00:05:52.560 With nine years at ABC under his belt, a buzzy Hulu documentary poised for Emmy attention and an upcoming book on the military's chaotic withdrawal from Afghanistan,
00:06:06.380 the 52-year-old journalist seemed to be at the height of his powers and the pinnacle of his profession.
00:06:12.280 But outside his Arlington, Virginia apartment, a surreal scene was unfolding, and his storied career was about to come crashing down.
00:06:27.160 Meek's tweet marked the last time he posted on Twitter.
00:06:31.780 The first thing Meek's neighbor, John Anatoly, noticed that morning was a black utility vehicle with blacked-out windows blocking traffic in both directions on Columbus Pike.
00:06:45.600 It was just before dawn on that brisk April day, and self-described police vehicle historian Anatoly was about to grab a coffee at Starbucks before embarking on his daily three-mile walk.
00:07:01.780 He inched closer to get a better vantage, and when he saw an olive green Lenko Bearcat G2, an armored tactical vehicle often employed by the FBI among other law enforcement agencies,
00:07:15.740 a few Arlington County cruisers surrounded the jaw-dropping scene, but all of the other vehicles were unmarked, including the Bearcat.
00:07:25.860 Anatoly counted at least 10 heavily armed personnel in the group.
00:07:33.440 None bore anything identifying which agency was conducting the raid.
00:07:38.880 Just after 10 minutes, the operation inside the Siena Park apartment complex, a six-story upscale building for D.C. professionals, was over.
00:07:49.200 They didn't stick around.
00:07:52.540 They took off pretty quickly and headed west on Columbia Pike towards Fairfax County.
00:07:58.000 Most people seeing that green vehicle will think it's some sort of a tank, but I knew it was a Lenko Bearcat.
00:08:04.840 It's a vehicle designed to jump out of so you can do a raid in a quick amount of time, and it can return fire if they're being fired upon.
00:08:13.240 Multiple sources familiar with the matter say Meek was the target of an FBI raid at the Siena Park Apartments, where he had been living on the top floor for more than a decade.
00:08:25.340 An FBI representative told Rolling Stone its agents were present on the morning of April 27th at that block, but they could not comment further due to an ongoing investigation.
00:08:39.640 Meek has not been charged with a crime, but independent observers believe the raid was among the first, and quite possibly the first, to be carried out on a journalist by the Biden administration.
00:08:55.040 A federal magistrate judge in the Virginia Eastern District Court signed off on a search warrant that day before the raid.
00:09:02.860 If the raid was for Meek's records, U.S. Deputy Attorney General Lisa Monaco would have had to give her blessings.
00:09:11.560 A new policy enacted last year prohibits federal prosecutors from seizing journalist documents.
00:09:17.520 Any exception requires the deputy AG's approval.
00:09:22.820 They said, to my knowledge, there hasn't been any case since January 2021.
00:09:28.960 In the raid's aftermath, Meek has made himself scarce.
00:09:36.800 Now, that's the first time.
00:09:38.660 This story takes a turn now, and I'm not sure what we're getting here.
00:09:45.520 In the raid's aftermath, Meek has made himself scarce.
00:09:49.740 None of his Siena Park neighbors, with whom Rolling Stone spoke with, have seen him since.
00:09:57.000 With his apartment now appearing to be vacant, Siena Park management declined to confirm that their long-time tenant was gone, citing privacy policies.
00:10:10.700 Huh.
00:10:13.060 Okay.
00:10:14.480 Similarly, several ABC News colleagues, who are accustomed to unraveling mysteries and cracking investigative stories,
00:10:24.520 tell Rolling Stones, they have no idea what happened to Meek.
00:10:29.980 He just fell off the face of the earth.
00:10:33.580 And when people are asked, no one knows the answer.
00:10:41.100 ABC representative tells Rolling Stone, yeah, he resigned abruptly, and he hasn't worked for us for months.
00:10:47.300 Really?
00:10:48.300 Really?
00:10:50.120 Sources familiar with the matter say federal agents allegedly found classified information on Meek's laptop during their raid.
00:10:57.480 One investigative journalist who worked with Meek says it would be highly unusual for a reporter or a producer to keep any classified information on his computer.
00:11:08.220 So now, what happened to him?
00:11:11.060 He hasn't been seen since April.
00:11:17.280 The story goes on to, I don't know, it just gets fuzzy at the end.
00:11:27.460 Let me read you the last paragraph.
00:11:32.200 It is unclear what story, if any, would have put Meek in the FBI crosshairs.
00:11:38.360 Meek worked on extremely sensitive topics from high-profile terrorists in America and Americans held abroad and the exploits of Eric Prince, the founder of the military contractor Blackwater.
00:11:51.780 In recent years, some of Meek's highest-profile reporting delved into an ambush by ISIS, left four American Green Berets dead.
00:12:00.260 Meek and ABC adapted the story in a feature-length documentary, which debuted last year on Veterans Day on Hulu.
00:12:09.500 Hmm.
00:12:11.600 Okay.
00:12:17.560 Is anyone...
00:12:19.520 A.
00:12:19.920 Do we live now in Russia?
00:12:25.560 The FBI is completely and totally out of control.
00:12:32.300 A Emmy award-winning journalist tweets facts and then is whisked away into black...
00:12:45.600 We don't know if it's the FBI.
00:12:47.080 ...into black vans where no one is wearing identification on their flak jacket.
00:12:55.420 Now, this sticks out to me because last night...
00:12:58.460 Well, I talked to one of the guys swept up by the FBI.
00:13:05.140 Remember the father of 11?
00:13:07.900 He was on my show last night.
00:13:10.440 And I said, you know, how did it happen?
00:13:13.200 He said they were pounding on the doors, pounding on the windows.
00:13:15.580 He said, I opened the window to see what was going on.
00:13:19.380 They had guns pointed at the front door.
00:13:22.620 I went to the door and I said, I'm opening the door now.
00:13:25.860 I asked them for identification.
00:13:28.180 And the FBI guy pointed to his chest with the little Velcro thing that said FBI.
00:13:33.300 And he said, that's your identification.
00:13:37.720 Now, that's disturbing in the first place.
00:13:41.980 But these guys didn't have any markings.
00:13:45.980 Why?
00:13:47.840 And where is this guy?
00:13:50.180 And why isn't the world of ABC on fire?
00:13:54.960 Where are the journalists?
00:13:57.680 If Donald Trump had anyone in a gray sedan, not even a black van, a gray sedan, an old one from the 60s,
00:14:09.220 and an old lady got out and said, hey, I'm with the Trump administration,
00:14:14.480 and I'd just like to ask you about an article, they would have been screaming to high heaven.
00:14:20.680 Now, we have a FBI that is completely out of control, and they pick up a journalist in April,
00:14:33.680 and we're just hearing about it now?
00:14:36.420 That might be the most disturbing part of the story.
00:14:39.500 The fact that a journalist could be taken out of their home in a raid by the government,
00:14:46.580 and no one, no journalist reports it, no one's tweeting about it,
00:14:51.840 there's no discussions for six months?
00:14:54.440 Yeah.
00:14:55.500 And by the way, his partner, who worked with him on the documentary that they produced,
00:15:04.420 he told Rolling Stone, I'm not commenting on this story, and then hung up.
00:15:10.940 This is not good, America.
00:15:18.260 This is not good.
00:15:21.540 The fear and the madness has got to stop.
00:15:31.680 We must end it, November 8th.
00:15:35.780 We must end it, November 8th.
00:15:39.420 But I don't think America, I don't know, I don't watch mainstream media anymore,
00:15:44.380 so I don't know what everybody else is saying.
00:15:46.340 I don't even listen to other talk radio shows, I don't listen to anything.
00:15:50.020 So I don't know what warnings you're getting elsewhere,
00:15:53.680 but if you're not hearing an urgent warning on the loss of your country,
00:16:01.960 our Bill of Rights, your freedom, and your economic freedom,
00:16:07.340 you're listening to the wrong people.
00:16:11.140 This is very disturbing.
00:16:15.260 This is amazing.
00:16:17.200 This is amazing.
00:16:19.140 Simon & Schuster, I'm just reading this some more.
00:16:21.600 He co-authored Americans Who Undertook One Last Mission and Honored Promise in Afghanistan,
00:16:28.280 which he co-authored with Lieutenant Colonel Scott Mann, a retired Green Beret.
00:16:34.720 Neek even featured a picture of the soon-to-published book in his bio in social media.
00:16:39.380 But post-April 27th, the book jacket photo disappeared from his bio,
00:16:46.720 and Simon & Schuster scrubbed his name from all of the press materials.
00:16:50.860 The first sentence of the jacket previously read,
00:16:54.080 In April, ABC News correspondent James Gordon got an urgent call
00:16:57.560 from a special forces operator serving overseas.
00:17:00.780 Now it says,
00:17:02.820 In April, an urgent call was placed from a special forces operation serving overseas.
00:17:09.360 Why is he being erased?
00:17:12.200 Why is he being erased?
00:17:19.380 Welcome to 1982, gang.
00:17:25.420 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program,
00:17:27.480 and we really want to thank you for listening.
00:17:29.180 Representative from Kentucky, Thomas Massey.
00:17:38.480 How are you, Tom?
00:17:40.320 Oh, I am doing well, Glenn.
00:17:42.320 Good.
00:17:43.660 Something evil is happening today.
00:17:46.920 Yeah.
00:17:47.900 So we were having a,
00:17:49.700 I had an early morning producers conference,
00:17:52.020 and there was a story out yesterday
00:17:54.220 that talked about how the CDC was going to vote
00:17:58.920 and try to get the COVID-19 vaccine,
00:18:02.800 the vaccination into the, you know,
00:18:05.960 you know, mumps and rubella category, 0.99
00:18:08.300 and it would protect them if they could.
00:18:11.560 It would protect them from lawsuits.
00:18:13.880 And then this morning in the meeting,
00:18:16.220 a couple of my producers said,
00:18:18.660 no, that is not happening today.
00:18:21.800 We can't find it anywhere on the schedule.
00:18:25.480 What's happening?
00:18:26.360 It's happening.
00:18:26.760 It is?
00:18:28.060 It's happening.
00:18:29.040 It's happening.
00:18:29.620 It's happening.
00:18:30.720 I'm a U.S. congressman who does not go off half-cocked here.
00:18:34.860 I have researched this for hours.
00:18:36.620 I watched the entire meeting yesterday.
00:18:39.060 Yesterday, they took a vote
00:18:40.480 on what I call the PPP,
00:18:42.700 the Pfizer Profit Protection Act.
00:18:45.300 Okay?
00:18:45.780 This guarantees that after we go out of this emergency situation,
00:18:49.560 the vaccines will still be purchased by the government.
00:18:52.340 Jeez.
00:18:52.700 That was the vote yesterday.
00:18:54.220 And it was unanimous.
00:18:56.160 It was unanimous.
00:18:57.080 15 to 0.
00:18:58.320 Today, at 1.20, on their schedule,
00:19:02.060 there's a vote on adding COVID-19
00:19:04.740 to the childhood immunization schedule.
00:19:08.220 Now, what your producers are correct about
00:19:10.900 is that this won't make it mandatory for schools in every state,
00:19:15.320 not immediately,
00:19:17.120 but in some states it will when it kicks in.
00:19:20.040 Now, it looks like,
00:19:21.040 based on the meeting I was watching this morning,
00:19:23.080 because it's going on right now,
00:19:24.280 they're doing this right now,
00:19:26.740 that this will kick in sometime in February.
00:19:29.280 And then it will trigger automatic COVID mandates
00:19:34.120 for schools in several states
00:19:36.640 and for playing sports as well.
00:19:39.840 Now, as far as liability goes,
00:19:44.140 the vaccine manufacturers aren't worried about that yet.
00:19:46.700 That might not happen in this meeting
00:19:48.540 because they've already got, you know,
00:19:51.440 protection from liability under the PREP Act,
00:19:54.140 which I call Medical Malpractice Martial Law.
00:19:57.560 You can't do it.
00:19:59.420 We are, literally,
00:20:00.700 the PREP Act overrides every state law
00:20:02.780 and every federal law on the books.
00:20:04.920 And the Nuremberg Law.
00:20:07.280 Yes.
00:20:08.160 And the laws of humanity.
00:20:09.980 You can't even take them to court.
00:20:12.520 I have a woman in my district 0.99
00:20:14.100 who went in to get a COVID test.
00:20:16.400 By the way, everything's covered.
00:20:17.800 If it has anything to do with COVID
00:20:19.680 and it's under an EUA,
00:20:21.180 everything's covered by the PREP Act.
00:20:22.760 A woman in my district in Kentucky 0.54
00:20:25.100 went to the hospital to get a COVID test.
00:20:28.000 They stuck the swab so far up her nose, 1.00
00:20:29.900 they punctured the membrane
00:20:30.900 that keeps your brain fluid in.
00:20:32.600 Oh, my gosh.
00:20:33.340 It leaked into her throat,
00:20:34.480 required surgery to fix,
00:20:36.440 and she could not sue the people
00:20:39.160 that did that to her 0.98
00:20:40.400 because they said they didn't do it on purpose.
00:20:43.740 That's how expansive the PREP Act is.
00:20:46.060 So they're not worried about liability right now,
00:20:48.840 the vaccine manufacturers,
00:20:49.920 but they want to get this on the childhood schedule.
00:20:52.240 I've got a slide that was presented yesterday
00:20:55.060 by Dr. Sarah Oliver in their meeting
00:20:57.200 that says incorporation of COVID-19 vaccines
00:21:00.380 in the immunization schedule
00:21:01.880 is an important step toward inclusion
00:21:03.680 of COVID-19 vaccines
00:21:05.200 in routine vaccination program.
00:21:08.940 Now, what that means,
00:21:11.140 she's saying in the mandatory vaccine programs
00:21:15.320 in many states for your child to attend school.
00:21:19.280 Now, here's another story I want to share with you.
00:21:22.040 You can't escape this.
00:21:23.540 If you're a working mom, a single mom,
00:21:26.120 and you've got kids,
00:21:27.900 first and foremost,
00:21:29.080 you'd hope your kids get educated at school,
00:21:31.000 but the service they provide is daycare.
00:21:33.940 And a woman contacted me
00:21:35.640 during the COVID shutdowns of the schools.
00:21:38.260 She had to lock her 12-year-old daughter
00:21:40.120 in her apartment
00:21:40.980 while she went to work at a bottling facility
00:21:43.940 for soda pop.
00:21:46.560 And she said she felt guilty when she was at work
00:21:49.940 because she was afraid her daughter
00:21:51.120 might be eating all of their food,
00:21:52.620 which she didn't know
00:21:53.460 when she could get more of it.
00:21:55.660 A mom like that cannot take her kid to private school. 1.00
00:21:59.660 This is a sentence
00:22:00.680 for single working parents
00:22:03.760 and for double parents at work.
00:22:05.800 And for parents that
00:22:09.100 would like to live a normal life
00:22:12.260 but don't believe
00:22:13.660 that an mRNA vaccine
00:22:16.660 should be put into my child's arm. 0.61
00:22:21.040 Absolutely.
00:22:22.020 And listen to this.
00:22:22.800 Here's another one of their slides
00:22:24.200 from yesterday.
00:22:25.880 By the way,
00:22:26.260 they're going to vote on this today
00:22:27.700 after lunch.
00:22:28.800 But one of their slides yesterday
00:22:31.000 when they were promoting the vaccine
00:22:32.560 for kids ages 5 to 11,
00:22:34.940 one of the things they promoted
00:22:36.540 as a benefit is
00:22:37.620 rates of myocarditis
00:22:39.360 after primary series
00:22:41.180 in children ages 5 to 11
00:22:42.820 are considerably lower
00:22:44.420 than rates in adolescents.
00:22:46.700 In other words,
00:22:47.700 myocarditis caused by the vaccine,
00:22:50.060 they are promoting the fact
00:22:51.220 that kids 5 to 11
00:22:53.060 should get the vaccine
00:22:53.860 because they're at lower risk
00:22:55.180 of getting myocarditis
00:22:56.860 from the vaccine
00:22:57.560 than kids,
00:22:58.520 than their older siblings.
00:23:00.080 How about
00:23:00.460 no human-made risk?
00:23:03.000 How about that one?
00:23:03.780 Can we do that one?
00:23:05.260 How about
00:23:05.920 a risk versus reward
00:23:07.720 benefit calculation
00:23:10.040 that takes into account
00:23:11.560 prior infection
00:23:12.760 and natural immunity
00:23:13.760 because the CDC
00:23:15.020 is in complete denial
00:23:16.420 of that
00:23:17.180 for children.
00:23:18.540 They don't talk about it
00:23:19.560 in any of their slides.
00:23:20.920 And they also,
00:23:22.120 this goes against
00:23:23.200 everything we've ever heard
00:23:25.340 about children
00:23:26.720 are the least
00:23:28.920 likely to get it
00:23:31.580 or to have
00:23:32.300 a bad spell with it.
00:23:35.080 Why?
00:23:36.100 They have another slide
00:23:37.980 where they show,
00:23:38.880 you know,
00:23:39.680 where infants get COVID
00:23:40.840 that are in the hospital
00:23:42.260 and ages 65 and up
00:23:44.380 having COVID.
00:23:45.180 On that slide,
00:23:46.360 it's a graph.
00:23:47.300 You can't even see
00:23:48.380 the line
00:23:48.960 for children
00:23:49.900 ages 5 to 17.
00:23:52.360 They're not even visible
00:23:53.500 in that graph
00:23:54.140 because they're basically
00:23:55.020 on the x-axis.
00:23:57.480 They're just this flat line.
00:23:58.740 You can't even measure them
00:24:00.620 unless you zoom in
00:24:01.640 and zoom in
00:24:02.120 and zoom in.
00:24:03.140 This is not a childhood disease.
00:24:05.680 You know,
00:24:06.300 you were mentioning
00:24:06.920 the vaccination schedule
00:24:08.060 for children,
00:24:08.820 for things that children get.
00:24:10.680 This is not a childhood disease
00:24:13.060 that particularly,
00:24:14.480 you know,
00:24:15.420 affects children.
00:24:16.340 It's mostly an adult disease.
00:24:18.060 So, Thomas,
00:24:19.400 why is this being done?
00:24:21.060 You know,
00:24:27.120 in Congress,
00:24:29.260 they teach us
00:24:29.840 not to question
00:24:30.660 the motives
00:24:31.200 of our colleagues.
00:24:34.300 I'm not looking
00:24:35.300 to question a motive.
00:24:36.580 They might be thinking
00:24:37.380 that they're doing
00:24:38.120 exactly the right thing.
00:24:39.460 There are people,
00:24:40.340 there are actually people
00:24:41.800 that think reducing
00:24:42.940 the surplus population
00:24:44.800 of Earth
00:24:45.800 is a good thing.
00:24:47.860 We called them Nazis, 0.65
00:24:49.140 but many of them
00:24:50.680 believe that was
00:24:51.440 the right thing to do.
00:24:52.780 So, I'm not questioning motives.
00:24:54.800 I'm asking,
00:24:55.700 why?
00:24:57.680 Why would you do this?
00:24:59.900 Even if you think
00:25:00.980 you're doing right,
00:25:02.800 science doesn't show that.
00:25:05.560 Well, I think they want
00:25:06.620 to destroy the control group.
00:25:08.520 And then there's
00:25:09.300 absolutely no liability
00:25:10.600 when we re-enter
00:25:12.000 the regime
00:25:13.460 where there should be liability.
00:25:15.480 And by the way,
00:25:16.240 the 15 people
00:25:17.120 who voted yesterday
00:25:18.020 are the same ones
00:25:18.800 who are going to vote today.
00:25:19.840 They're chosen to be 0.98
00:25:20.900 on that committee
00:25:21.560 because they have doctor
00:25:22.640 or PhD after their name.
00:25:24.720 They are the seed
00:25:26.700 that leads to all the mandates
00:25:28.740 for the kids
00:25:29.440 because they give
00:25:30.180 the imprimatur of science
00:25:32.100 to CDC,
00:25:33.980 which lacks all credibility.
00:25:36.040 But they want to bring
00:25:37.360 in this group.
00:25:38.080 And the group
00:25:38.640 is pre-selected
00:25:39.620 to be cheerleaders
00:25:40.500 for vaccines.
00:25:43.020 But even this group
00:25:44.600 was somewhat skeptical
00:25:45.600 of a few slides yesterday.
00:25:46.920 There was a slide
00:25:47.640 that showed
00:25:48.040 that pregnant women, 1.00
00:25:48.980 60 to 70%
00:25:50.240 of pregnant women
00:25:50.940 have gotten the vaccine.
00:25:52.760 And even one
00:25:53.620 of the vaccine cheerleaders
00:25:54.760 said,
00:25:55.200 I find this sketchy.
00:25:57.540 So they're even
00:25:59.020 a little bit doubtful.
00:26:00.820 The vote happened
00:26:01.580 on their agenda
00:26:03.420 at 120 today.
00:26:05.640 So what can we do
00:26:07.120 about this?
00:26:08.880 Well,
00:26:09.320 at one o'clock,
00:26:10.600 they have 20 minutes
00:26:11.760 of public comment.
00:26:13.240 Okay.
00:26:13.520 Yesterday,
00:26:14.000 they allowed six people
00:26:15.300 to comment.
00:26:16.640 There's virtually
00:26:17.400 no chance
00:26:18.520 of getting in
00:26:19.520 orally
00:26:20.280 during that public comment,
00:26:21.580 but you can submit
00:26:22.340 something written.
00:26:23.680 But I think
00:26:24.720 just raise heck
00:26:26.200 with your congressman
00:26:27.120 because if Republicans
00:26:28.300 get the majority back,
00:26:29.420 we can defund
00:26:30.240 this activity.
00:26:32.000 Are we going to?
00:26:34.560 I don't know.
00:26:35.680 It's the question
00:26:36.440 every person,
00:26:38.240 whether they're running
00:26:38.920 for school board
00:26:39.980 or dog catcher
00:26:41.100 or U.S. Senate
00:26:42.260 needs to be asked
00:26:43.680 in front of a camera
00:26:44.860 do you support
00:26:46.380 mandatory COVID vaccines
00:26:48.160 for children
00:26:48.860 in order to go to school
00:26:50.440 or play sports
00:26:51.480 or anything like that?
00:26:52.220 I don't care
00:26:52.660 if you're Republican
00:26:53.280 or Democrat.
00:26:53.800 Don't give anybody
00:26:54.780 a pass
00:26:55.240 unless they've answered
00:26:56.600 that question.
00:26:57.520 I mean,
00:26:58.060 I have a lot of them.
00:26:59.280 Do you,
00:27:00.720 will you allow
00:27:02.380 the FBI
00:27:03.160 to continue
00:27:04.220 to scoop up
00:27:06.020 old ladies 0.87
00:27:07.020 in a bogus
00:27:09.420 face act arrest
00:27:11.220 while not leaving,
00:27:14.180 you know,
00:27:14.720 not leaving
00:27:15.700 every breadcrumb
00:27:17.040 and every piece
00:27:18.640 of evidence
00:27:19.320 just sitting
00:27:20.360 waiting for an FBI agent
00:27:21.960 to show up
00:27:22.740 on the people
00:27:23.360 who are firebombing
00:27:25.020 pro-life clinics?
00:27:27.600 I mean,
00:27:28.220 this is,
00:27:29.460 if the Republicans win
00:27:32.180 and I think
00:27:32.760 they're going to
00:27:33.460 and if they win
00:27:34.700 the House
00:27:35.120 and the Senate
00:27:35.740 I have to tell you,
00:27:38.060 you know this,
00:27:39.540 Thomas,
00:27:40.560 pitchforks
00:27:41.720 and torches
00:27:42.660 are coming
00:27:43.400 because a lot
00:27:45.380 of people know
00:27:46.280 our rights
00:27:47.600 are being
00:27:48.520 lost
00:27:49.420 every day.
00:27:51.620 Every day.
00:27:53.440 I sound like
00:27:54.840 a broken record
00:27:55.660 on this.
00:27:56.240 I probably mention it
00:27:57.180 every time I go
00:27:58.020 on your show.
00:27:59.300 We've got to
00:28:00.080 separate the spending
00:28:01.080 bills into separate bills.
00:28:02.620 If Republicans
00:28:03.440 do an omnibus bill
00:28:04.920 the fix is in.
00:28:06.340 They will say
00:28:07.280 we can't get blamed
00:28:08.220 for shutting down
00:28:08.980 the government
00:28:09.620 because we have
00:28:11.320 to win the White House
00:28:12.280 in two years
00:28:13.180 so we can't defund
00:28:14.260 the FBI's,
00:28:15.340 you know,
00:28:16.040 rounding up old ladies 1.00
00:28:17.360 and putting them
00:28:17.920 in jail.
00:28:19.640 You know,
00:28:20.240 it's about 2024.
00:28:22.180 That's all false.
00:28:23.580 Separate the bills.
00:28:24.960 Fund NASA.
00:28:25.840 Fund the roads.
00:28:26.740 Fund the bridges.
00:28:28.240 You know,
00:28:28.520 pay the soldiers
00:28:29.420 and then
00:28:30.500 defund
00:28:31.360 the 87,000
00:28:32.600 IRS agents
00:28:33.420 in a separate bill.
00:28:36.560 Well,
00:28:37.220 I think,
00:28:38.380 I mean,
00:28:39.540 the strategy
00:28:40.520 that I would use
00:28:42.060 if I were on the left,
00:28:43.780 I would
00:28:44.600 have you guys
00:28:46.340 be responsible
00:28:47.360 for, quote,
00:28:48.120 collapsing the economy.
00:28:50.280 And so I think
00:28:51.540 every single politician
00:28:53.820 is going to be afraid
00:28:55.300 of doing that.
00:28:56.520 And it will be
00:28:57.840 scaremongering tactics.
00:28:59.580 I mean,
00:28:59.920 I've already heard
00:29:00.880 on national media
00:29:02.300 that we are going
00:29:03.860 to lose
00:29:04.480 our credit rating status
00:29:06.240 because we will
00:29:07.860 just default
00:29:08.620 on all of our loans.
00:29:09.860 We don't default.
00:29:12.220 We don't default.
00:29:14.340 That's a lie.
00:29:15.720 Is it not?
00:29:16.400 Go ahead.
00:29:17.580 It is a lie.
00:29:18.980 Here's the Thomas Massey plan.
00:29:21.040 If I were Speaker
00:29:21.820 the day after
00:29:22.940 January 4th,
00:29:25.100 I would pass,
00:29:26.000 and this is hard
00:29:26.600 for me to do,
00:29:27.580 I would pass
00:29:28.340 a continuing resolution
00:29:29.580 that doesn't kick in
00:29:30.600 for nine months.
00:29:31.540 It would fund
00:29:32.040 all of government
00:29:32.780 at 90%
00:29:34.180 of current levels
00:29:35.160 so that for nine months,
00:29:37.180 Republicans have a runway
00:29:38.440 where Democrats
00:29:39.640 can't say,
00:29:40.860 if you don't get
00:29:41.320 your job done,
00:29:42.020 the government's
00:29:42.580 going to shut down.
00:29:43.740 No,
00:29:44.040 the government
00:29:44.620 will be funded
00:29:45.420 at a dime less
00:29:46.400 on the dollar,
00:29:47.540 but we could also cover,
00:29:48.860 make sure we are
00:29:49.780 going to pay off
00:29:50.420 all our debts
00:29:51.120 and we're not going
00:29:51.680 to default
00:29:52.100 in that same CR.
00:29:53.000 and that way
00:29:54.120 you take that argument
00:29:55.460 away from the media
00:29:56.600 and Joe Biden.
00:29:58.900 You think anybody
00:30:00.500 will listen to you
00:30:01.360 on that one?
00:30:03.220 It's getting some traction.
00:30:05.240 Good.
00:30:06.340 Good.
00:30:06.880 People who want
00:30:07.660 to hide behind
00:30:08.320 an omnibus
00:30:08.900 don't like it.
00:30:10.600 And by the way,
00:30:11.160 that CR
00:30:11.640 would only kick in
00:30:12.740 nine months later
00:30:13.440 if we don't do our jobs,
00:30:15.100 which is to pass
00:30:15.900 12 separate spending bills.
00:30:17.220 Thomas,
00:30:18.460 do we have
00:30:19.080 a constitutional republic
00:30:22.340 that we're living
00:30:22.940 under right now?
00:30:24.840 We do not.
00:30:26.920 We have raw power
00:30:28.700 in the form
00:30:29.780 of a collusion
00:30:31.900 between the social media
00:30:34.280 companies,
00:30:35.560 the government,
00:30:36.480 the pharmaceutical companies,
00:30:38.680 and the FBI,
00:30:40.320 the federal police.
00:30:42.260 It's a collusion.
00:30:43.400 I'll throw in the USDA
00:30:44.520 and the food processors.
00:30:46.060 It's, you know,
00:30:47.980 in a libertarian
00:30:49.740 sort of fantasy,
00:30:51.580 there are no laws
00:30:52.680 to prevent you
00:30:53.400 from doing things,
00:30:54.600 but you still
00:30:55.480 have liability.
00:30:57.020 You still can sue somebody
00:30:58.480 if they hurt you
00:30:59.220 or mislead you
00:31:00.160 or cheat you.
00:31:01.180 But what we live in today,
00:31:03.360 it's not even communism.
00:31:05.920 It's a form where
00:31:07.120 they've empowered
00:31:08.820 the private companies,
00:31:11.500 the government,
00:31:12.280 work hand in hand.
00:31:13.240 So when they need
00:31:13.860 to violate
00:31:14.280 your constitutional rights,
00:31:15.420 they use the private company.
00:31:16.980 When they need
00:31:17.500 to violate the law,
00:31:18.540 they use the government.
00:31:19.640 And they work together.
00:31:21.040 There's a name
00:31:22.520 for that kind of government.
00:31:24.380 Yes, I think there he is.
00:31:27.700 I won't give it
00:31:28.660 with you on the phone
00:31:29.760 because then you'll have
00:31:30.680 to pay all kinds
00:31:31.520 of prices for it.
00:31:33.020 Don't use the F word.
00:31:37.100 Thomas, thank you so much.
00:31:39.140 All right.
00:31:39.680 Thank you, Glenn.
00:31:40.200 God bless.
00:31:42.000 Please get involved
00:31:43.300 with this.
00:31:44.360 Call your congressman.
00:31:45.920 Call your senator.
00:31:47.480 And vote. 0.61
00:31:48.760 Vote.
00:31:49.400 The fear and madness
00:31:50.960 must end.
00:31:53.160 November 8th.
00:31:54.360 The best of the Glenn Beck
00:31:59.540 program.
00:32:08.700 So there is a new book out.
00:32:10.240 It is called
00:32:10.680 Leadership Not
00:32:11.940 by the Book
00:32:12.880 by David Green
00:32:14.740 and Bill High
00:32:15.640 from Hobby Lobby.
00:32:17.460 Welcome, David.
00:32:18.160 How are you, sir?
00:32:18.640 Thank you.
00:32:19.140 It's good to be here with you.
00:32:20.100 Oh, it's good to see you again.
00:32:21.140 Yeah.
00:32:21.260 So, first of all,
00:32:23.400 I did a special last night
00:32:24.740 about how the FBI
00:32:27.340 and the federal agencies
00:32:29.840 and the media
00:32:31.140 are weaponizing
00:32:33.060 against Christians 1.00
00:32:34.540 and as individuals
00:32:36.420 and as business.
00:32:38.980 You were,
00:32:40.940 your fine was how much?
00:32:42.760 Well, they were going
00:32:43.540 to fine me
00:32:44.020 $1.3 million a day
00:32:46.120 if I didn't follow
00:32:47.640 their instructions
00:32:48.420 because we got that number
00:32:50.020 by the number of employees
00:32:51.480 we had.
00:32:52.080 It's like $1,000 a day
00:32:54.140 per employee
00:32:54.860 so that was a lot of money.
00:32:56.400 So 1.3 was what
00:32:57.560 we were looking at.
00:32:58.680 And all you had to do
00:33:01.320 was just offer
00:33:03.200 birth control
00:33:04.580 or abortion, right?
00:33:05.840 There were four pills
00:33:06.800 that we,
00:33:07.620 and prescriptions
00:33:08.880 that we could not provide
00:33:10.360 because we knew
00:33:10.980 that it was after the fact
00:33:12.100 that we were taking life
00:33:13.160 and we knew
00:33:13.740 that we just could not do that.
00:33:15.420 And we had that in our,
00:33:16.480 had to have that in our,
00:33:17.580 when we signed
00:33:18.440 our next insurance policy.
00:33:21.040 And so this was what
00:33:22.060 the government
00:33:22.440 was asking us to do.
00:33:24.800 And you're just.
00:33:25.560 We knew we couldn't do it.
00:33:26.640 You know,
00:33:26.880 it was just some things
00:33:27.920 as you were saying earlier,
00:33:29.020 you just can't do.
00:33:29.960 You can't go against
00:33:30.740 your conscience.
00:33:31.540 And they were asking us
00:33:32.440 to go against our conscience.
00:33:34.040 So you won that case.
00:33:36.100 We did win that case.
00:33:37.140 Yeah.
00:33:37.460 Thank God
00:33:38.100 you won that case.
00:33:39.080 And, and that, you know,
00:33:43.120 that, that changed the course,
00:33:45.380 I think, for the first real big win
00:33:48.620 for America
00:33:50.140 as we have known it in the past.
00:33:52.580 It sure helped us
00:33:54.120 because we didn't know
00:33:55.680 what we were going to do
00:33:56.560 because people would ask me,
00:33:57.640 what do you do
00:33:58.100 if you lose this case?
00:33:59.460 And I said,
00:34:00.040 I don't know what we're going to do,
00:34:01.360 but I do know
00:34:02.120 what we're not going to do
00:34:03.100 under any circumstances
00:34:04.380 or are we going to pay
00:34:05.360 for someone's abortive pill?
00:34:07.160 And that was what we had decided
00:34:08.800 as a family.
00:34:09.820 In fact, we came together
00:34:10.840 as our family.
00:34:11.960 We call ourselves Gen 1
00:34:13.400 and our kids Gen 2
00:34:14.700 and Gen 3.
00:34:15.480 And we had all of them
00:34:16.400 in a meeting to see,
00:34:17.940 do you see this any different?
00:34:19.980 Gen 3, the younger people 0.99
00:34:21.440 in our family
00:34:22.480 and all of us stood the ground
00:34:24.440 and said, no, no, no,
00:34:25.300 we're not going to take life
00:34:26.640 for the sake of making profit
00:34:29.200 at Hobby Lobby stores.
00:34:31.520 So let's, let's talk about,
00:34:34.220 by the way,
00:34:35.060 I think what you went through
00:34:36.620 and I'd love to hear
00:34:37.660 your opinion on this.
00:34:39.100 It almost seems like
00:34:40.960 the good old days
00:34:42.400 compared to what we're facing now.
00:34:44.520 Things have gone pretty much south
00:34:46.720 on a daily basis here.
00:34:48.580 I can't even imagine
00:34:49.940 what the government's asking us to do
00:34:52.320 and how they're coming against us
00:34:53.700 if you want to be a Christian.
00:34:56.380 So somehow or another today
00:34:57.600 we're seen as the haters
00:34:58.800 and yet we have the greatest story
00:35:00.580 in the world about Christ
00:35:01.820 who died for us
00:35:02.680 while we're yet sinners.
00:35:04.140 So we're not the haters.
00:35:05.440 We're the one that's got the best
00:35:07.240 and the greatest love story
00:35:08.780 in the world.
00:35:09.320 I have to tell you,
00:35:10.200 I've met so many Christians
00:35:11.800 that will come up to me
00:35:12.580 and say, hey, Glenn,
00:35:13.980 what are we going to,
00:35:14.720 what are we going to do?
00:35:15.360 And I'm like, well,
00:35:16.880 there's only one thing left to do
00:35:18.580 and it's what everybody dismisses.
00:35:20.600 But if we don't turn to God
00:35:22.240 and ask him for forgiveness
00:35:24.480 and help,
00:35:25.040 we're not,
00:35:25.660 we're not going to survive.
00:35:27.020 He's the only answer at this point.
00:35:29.000 And people are like,
00:35:30.160 yeah, yeah, yeah, I know.
00:35:31.080 But what are we going to really do?
00:35:33.420 And I'm like,
00:35:34.060 do you not believe,
00:35:36.820 do you not believe
00:35:37.520 that the guy who rose from the dead,
00:35:40.060 harder trick than fixing our country,
00:35:43.020 is not,
00:35:44.040 I mean, people of faith,
00:35:46.000 I'm not sure
00:35:47.080 that a lot of them
00:35:48.540 really truly have faith
00:35:50.140 that when it comes down to it,
00:35:51.940 yeah,
00:35:52.820 whatever happens,
00:35:53.860 it's in his hands.
00:35:54.820 Yeah, but I think there's something
00:35:56.640 that we have to do.
00:35:57.580 So I think you'll see us,
00:35:59.360 our family,
00:35:59.960 with a lot of other families
00:36:01.000 coming on a program
00:36:01.800 and you're going to see it,
00:36:02.680 you're going to see it,
00:36:03.320 the Super Bowl,
00:36:04.580 he gets us.
00:36:05.820 So we're wanting to say,
00:36:07.320 we being a lot of different people,
00:36:08.680 that he gets us,
00:36:09.580 he understands all of us.
00:36:11.660 He hates who,
00:36:12.480 he loves who we hate.
00:36:14.060 And so I think we have to let the public know
00:36:16.380 and create a movement, really.
00:36:18.540 But that is a different,
00:36:19.660 that's a different movement.
00:36:21.400 I agree with you on that.
00:36:22.440 There's lots we have to do.
00:36:23.880 But that's one of the most important movements
00:36:26.840 I've heard,
00:36:27.580 if that's what the movement you're doing.
00:36:29.900 He loves those who hate us.
00:36:32.780 So we have to find a way to love,
00:36:35.780 it doesn't mean don't stand against it.
00:36:37.780 You've got to be firm
00:36:39.760 and clear on your stance.
00:36:41.880 And I'm not moving.
00:36:43.200 But I can't hate them.
00:36:45.580 That's right.
00:36:46.080 We have to present the only answer to this,
00:36:48.260 and it's not politics.
00:36:49.720 And you've already said it,
00:36:50.700 it's him.
00:36:51.240 It's Jesus who died for us,
00:36:53.060 loves us.
00:36:54.020 And until we accept him and know him
00:36:55.820 and his scriptures and his book
00:36:57.620 that he's given us,
00:36:58.940 we can't settle the problems we have.
00:37:01.700 So you have written a book,
00:37:04.920 Leadership Not By The Book.
00:37:07.480 You're the founder of Hobby Lobby,
00:37:09.220 which started out,
00:37:10.060 I love the way you begin.
00:37:11.820 You started out making frames
00:37:14.080 with your family in the garage.
00:37:15.940 Exactly.
00:37:16.380 And our boys,
00:37:17.160 I made seven cents apiece
00:37:18.640 to put them together.
00:37:19.640 My wife worked for free
00:37:21.100 for five years.
00:37:22.040 So we just crawled
00:37:23.220 for a long period of time.
00:37:25.060 But we have been blessed
00:37:26.360 to where today we do $8 billion.
00:37:28.780 And so we've come a long ways.
00:37:31.580 So, yeah, I think so.
00:37:32.680 From seven cents to, yeah.
00:37:34.380 So you have 12 principles in here.
00:37:37.820 And I've highlighted a few of them.
00:37:40.060 But I want you just to kind of give
00:37:41.640 the overview of the book.
00:37:43.000 Okay.
00:37:44.240 I think, you know,
00:37:45.200 people ask me why I write the book.
00:37:46.640 And I think one of the greatest reasons
00:37:48.060 I wrote it is for us to understand
00:37:49.840 that we don't own what we have.
00:37:51.940 Not because I say so,
00:37:53.340 because the scriptures
00:37:54.360 in the Old Testament
00:37:55.300 as well as the New Testament
00:37:56.480 says that God owns everything.
00:37:59.160 And so I think as we see
00:38:00.500 what we have is owned by him,
00:38:02.360 then we're nothing but servants.
00:38:04.100 And I say nothing but.
00:38:05.680 I would rather be us to serve
00:38:08.220 and to be us,
00:38:09.920 to take care of what God has given us
00:38:12.600 than to have ownership.
00:38:14.100 If you really study down
00:38:15.500 on those that have been wealthy,
00:38:17.220 wealth is a curse.
00:38:18.520 And so how do you handle the curse?
00:38:20.680 And that is to be someone
00:38:22.980 that takes what God has given us
00:38:25.580 and know how to handle it.
00:38:26.880 I think we used to understand
00:38:29.340 that concept a lot more.
00:38:31.920 We were a country that had great wealth.
00:38:34.140 We helped.
00:38:34.940 We helped each other.
00:38:35.880 We were always the first on the scene.
00:38:38.460 And now, I mean,
00:38:40.300 that's kind of like government does that.
00:38:43.460 We just have this,
00:38:44.860 we're just not the same people.
00:38:46.920 Well, the government's done too much
00:38:48.180 and that's why sometimes we've backed off
00:38:50.020 where we should not have backed off.
00:38:51.880 So we want to make sure
00:38:52.860 that what we do with our profits
00:38:54.340 really makes a difference.
00:38:56.580 Okay.
00:38:56.960 So let's go through some of the principles
00:38:59.460 that I'd like to talk to you about.
00:39:01.740 Build for the next 150 years,
00:39:03.800 not just the next generation.
00:39:06.420 I don't think there's people,
00:39:08.160 I think there's lots of people
00:39:09.380 that are just building for tomorrow,
00:39:11.180 not even the next generation.
00:39:13.140 This is more Chinese in your thinking.
00:39:15.480 Explain.
00:39:16.140 Well, I think it's also thinking about
00:39:17.800 what we're doing in our lifetime.
00:39:19.640 What are we doing
00:39:20.280 that doesn't matter 100 years from now?
00:39:22.060 If you get to thinking
00:39:22.900 and drilling down on that,
00:39:24.580 you want your life to be something
00:39:26.000 that's eternal and not just temporal.
00:39:28.320 So that's what we're doing there.
00:39:29.720 And so we're doing it
00:39:30.520 with making sure that our children
00:39:32.420 come along and serve the Lord
00:39:33.940 and also have the same priorities you do.
00:39:36.720 And that is to have Hobby Lobby
00:39:38.540 going on forever if possible
00:39:40.180 and be a ministry to those that are in need.
00:39:43.700 How do you go from a framing place
00:39:45.500 to everything you sell with that?
00:39:49.140 I think there's a lot of people,
00:39:51.260 they separate,
00:39:52.540 I want to talk about family too,
00:39:53.840 because you talk about this separation.
00:39:55.160 They separate God
00:39:59.540 and their faith from their business.
00:40:03.520 And they'll come up with all kinds of excuses
00:40:05.760 that, you know,
00:40:07.080 I got to do what I got to do.
00:40:08.440 Right.
00:40:08.800 We got to do business.
00:40:09.820 Right.
00:40:10.600 I don't know how you do it
00:40:11.820 without trying to find the book.
00:40:13.900 This book is called Leadership,
00:40:16.260 not by the book,
00:40:17.460 but hopefully it's by the book.
00:40:19.600 Right.
00:40:19.860 And I really don't know how you do it
00:40:21.200 without following the book,
00:40:22.860 because it gives us so much.
00:40:24.540 Our creator has given us a book
00:40:26.260 that really will help us.
00:40:27.480 What are some of the business decisions
00:40:28.720 that you had to make
00:40:30.440 that, you know,
00:40:32.000 that on the surface were nuts,
00:40:34.620 that regular business people go,
00:40:36.160 that, that, no.
00:40:37.520 But you just had assurance,
00:40:39.720 I know this is what he wants me to do
00:40:42.340 and it'll work out.
00:40:43.400 I think one of those things,
00:40:44.540 and there are a lot of them,
00:40:45.620 I think one of them is just
00:40:46.780 how we treat our employees.
00:40:48.240 Yeah.
00:40:48.400 I sense the Lord just gave me
00:40:50.280 the Holy Spirit that you need,
00:40:52.280 you're in charge of these people.
00:40:53.940 I'm putting you in charge
00:40:54.900 of those people.
00:40:55.720 And so now you're saying,
00:40:56.960 well, what does that look like?
00:40:58.540 Well, it looks like they need
00:40:59.580 to go to church on Sunday,
00:41:00.740 so you've got to close on Sunday.
00:41:02.660 It looks like maybe
00:41:03.620 that you ought to close at 8
00:41:05.300 and only open 66 hours a week.
00:41:07.440 It looks like maybe
00:41:08.280 your minimum wage
00:41:09.160 ought to be $18 an hour.
00:41:10.920 It looks like maybe
00:41:11.780 you ought to have
00:41:12.340 seven different chaplains
00:41:15.080 to help the people in need
00:41:16.400 that have different problems.
00:41:17.540 So I think it looks like
00:41:19.320 that,
00:41:21.540 and all of these things,
00:41:23.100 by the way,
00:41:23.500 are biblical,
00:41:24.220 but it's also good for business.
00:41:26.100 We are very, very profitable.
00:41:27.760 We have no debt.
00:41:29.080 And I think it's-
00:41:29.540 See, people would say,
00:41:30.560 because I know,
00:41:31.200 you write about it in the book.
00:41:32.800 People say,
00:41:33.580 how can we get to,
00:41:34.560 you know,
00:41:34.840 $16 an hour?
00:41:36.160 And you're like,
00:41:36.920 we're getting up to $18.50 an hour.
00:41:38.680 What are you talking about?
00:41:39.780 And everybody will say,
00:41:41.620 and as I know,
00:41:42.560 I've been around business
00:41:43.980 my whole life.
00:41:45.560 People will make the argument,
00:41:47.560 you can't overpay.
00:41:49.060 You can't make your hourly wage
00:41:52.600 that high
00:41:53.280 because you won't be able
00:41:54.860 to afford it.
00:41:55.660 It'll jack prices up.
00:41:57.480 Yeah, when we first started,
00:41:58.540 we just tried to survive.
00:41:59.780 So you need to understand that.
00:42:01.160 It was just surviving.
00:42:02.280 But as we tried to follow the book,
00:42:05.800 which there is,
00:42:06.640 what other book do you want
00:42:07.680 to guide your life by?
00:42:08.880 There's only one book
00:42:10.200 that's of God.
00:42:11.320 The rest of them are man. 0.66
00:42:12.460 There's only one,
00:42:13.160 and that's his,
00:42:13.720 and he's given us a book,
00:42:15.260 a direction book.
00:42:16.540 And when we follow it,
00:42:17.500 I don't know that there's a,
00:42:18.700 I can't tell you
00:42:19.820 of a better way
00:42:20.600 to run a business
00:42:21.640 than following the book
00:42:23.020 and follow things
00:42:23.900 that I think
00:42:24.980 would be pleasing
00:42:25.600 to our Lord.
00:42:26.380 But tell me how,
00:42:28.120 faith is one thing,
00:42:30.520 but talk to somebody
00:42:31.680 who doesn't necessarily
00:42:32.900 have the faith
00:42:34.280 just about how
00:42:35.360 the principle
00:42:36.120 of paying your employees,
00:42:38.820 doing all of the things
00:42:40.160 that you do.
00:42:42.660 How do they
00:42:43.560 convince somebody
00:42:45.240 who doesn't necessarily
00:42:46.460 may have faith,
00:42:48.240 but not your kind of faith?
00:42:49.900 Yeah, well,
00:42:50.580 my kind of faith
00:42:51.360 believes that God's word,
00:42:52.500 of course,
00:42:52.880 is where we're going
00:42:53.520 to be best in our life
00:42:54.600 in everything that we do.
00:42:55.840 He's given us a direction.
00:42:57.820 Our creator gave us
00:42:58.720 a direction book.
00:43:00.320 But if you don't have faith,
00:43:02.060 why doesn't it look good
00:43:03.180 to take care of your people
00:43:04.240 and they take care of yours
00:43:05.320 if you had no faith at all?
00:43:06.540 How does that not look good?
00:43:08.060 How does what we're being told
00:43:09.740 in God's book,
00:43:11.220 how does it look wrong?
00:43:12.300 It just seems to make
00:43:13.640 also common sense,
00:43:15.260 and that's to care for people
00:43:17.180 if you really want them
00:43:18.480 to care for you.
00:43:19.700 So people know,
00:43:20.680 by the way,
00:43:21.060 who Hobby Lobby is
00:43:22.060 before they even knock
00:43:23.040 on the door
00:43:23.520 for an application.
00:43:25.140 And because of that,
00:43:26.240 I think we get
00:43:26.900 the very, very best people
00:43:28.140 that are out there,
00:43:28.820 people that have a work ethic,
00:43:30.380 people that have integrity.
00:43:32.240 And so I think
00:43:32.840 that's one of the secret sauces
00:43:34.340 is just to have
00:43:35.220 great, great people.
00:43:36.460 It is, it's weird too
00:43:38.160 as somebody who is
00:43:39.260 a conservative
00:43:39.860 and a religious person
00:43:41.420 that I was in,
00:43:42.840 I can't remember
00:43:43.240 what city it was in,
00:43:44.120 but I think there was
00:43:44.880 a Michaels,
00:43:45.580 and I didn't know
00:43:46.660 that there was a Hobby Lobby.
00:43:47.980 We go into the Michaels,
00:43:48.740 and it was just,
00:43:49.360 it was just not good.
00:43:50.960 And I'm like,
00:43:51.620 we gotta find a Hobby Lobby,
00:43:52.620 gotta find a Hobby Lobby,
00:43:53.520 go into Hobby Lobby.
00:43:54.440 And it was like
00:43:54.980 this little island of respite.
00:43:56.520 It was just like,
00:43:57.660 ah, I know things are safe here.
00:44:00.500 I know things are,
00:44:02.140 the people are gonna be nice,
00:44:03.900 you know,
00:44:04.400 nobody's judging,
00:44:05.480 I don't have to have
00:44:06.800 any kind of stupid
00:44:07.720 societal rules,
00:44:09.140 you know,
00:44:09.500 it's nice.
00:44:11.960 It's nice.
00:44:12.680 I don't know if you've heard that.
00:44:13.060 You know who we are
00:44:13.840 when you're in our stores.
00:44:14.940 You see,
00:44:15.280 you hear beautiful
00:44:16.400 Christian music,
00:44:17.680 every department
00:44:18.280 has something
00:44:18.960 that glorifies our Lord,
00:44:22.220 and if you come
00:44:23.020 in the front of the store
00:44:24.180 and there's Bibles
00:44:25.100 and there's good
00:44:26.040 Christian books,
00:44:27.600 we have like a miniature
00:44:28.640 Christian bookstore
00:44:29.800 right in the front
00:44:30.740 of our stores.
00:44:31.520 You are breaking
00:44:32.440 every rule
00:44:33.940 of business.
00:44:35.420 Right.
00:44:35.980 You know?
00:44:36.540 It's okay.
00:44:37.240 You would,
00:44:37.600 I know,
00:44:37.920 I know,
00:44:38.360 but I mean,
00:44:39.000 if you were just
00:44:40.280 a business person,
00:44:41.120 I think you would walk in
00:44:42.200 and say,
00:44:42.580 you're gonna be
00:44:43.000 a nice niche store.
00:44:44.720 Yeah.
00:44:45.140 You'll never be
00:44:46.060 Hobby Lobby.
00:44:47.480 And it's just amazing.
00:44:50.560 Yeah,
00:44:51.100 we're proud
00:44:51.900 of what God
00:44:52.360 has given us.
00:44:53.080 And by the way,
00:44:53.820 I give glory
00:44:54.600 to a lot of
00:44:55.320 great,
00:44:55.840 great people.
00:44:56.440 We have just
00:44:57.000 a lot of
00:44:57.500 great people.
00:44:58.260 Our officers,
00:44:59.140 by the way,
00:44:59.720 average over 25 years.
00:45:01.680 So we have people
00:45:02.420 that stay with us.
00:45:03.500 They love it.
00:45:04.660 They love it
00:45:05.540 because they know
00:45:06.200 they're doing something
00:45:06.980 other than just
00:45:07.780 doing something
00:45:08.420 to make the owners rich
00:45:10.340 because that's not
00:45:11.020 what they're doing.
00:45:12.240 This really stuck out
00:45:13.880 in me in the book.
00:45:16.280 Yeah,
00:45:16.660 family first.
00:45:17.440 My family come first
00:45:18.480 after my business
00:45:19.220 stabilizes.
00:45:20.320 After I'm done
00:45:20.880 working on my
00:45:21.500 master's degree,
00:45:22.380 I complete my PhD.
00:45:23.800 I just have to finish
00:45:24.960 this one project
00:45:25.900 and things are gonna change.
00:45:27.440 I've said that.
00:45:28.680 I hear that
00:45:29.860 all the time.
00:45:31.400 You say,
00:45:32.920 no,
00:45:33.780 family first.
00:45:35.440 That's right.
00:45:36.160 And when we bring
00:45:36.900 our leaders in,
00:45:37.680 we tell them
00:45:38.100 the same thing.
00:45:38.800 You say,
00:45:39.160 you know,
00:45:39.460 the easiest thing
00:45:40.240 for you to do
00:45:40.860 is your career.
00:45:41.760 That is the easiest thing.
00:45:43.200 But you know
00:45:43.540 what the hardest thing is?
00:45:44.720 Is your marriage
00:45:45.460 and raising children
00:45:47.220 that come up
00:45:48.040 to serve the Lord.
00:45:49.200 And so I really want them
00:45:50.540 as well as myself
00:45:51.620 to make sure
00:45:52.320 we know
00:45:52.840 what's most important
00:45:53.860 in our lives.
00:45:54.680 So that's something
00:45:55.640 that you can do,
00:45:56.520 but how did you
00:45:57.740 start that?
00:45:59.880 How do you
00:46:00.800 convince somebody
00:46:02.400 that is like
00:46:03.500 overwhelmed at work
00:46:04.360 and they're like,
00:46:04.720 no,
00:46:04.880 I gotta get this done
00:46:06.860 or I'll lose my job?
00:46:09.460 Yeah,
00:46:10.440 I think that I,
00:46:11.340 I just think
00:46:13.040 if we think very long
00:46:14.520 and we create
00:46:15.300 all of this wealth
00:46:16.140 and have no family
00:46:17.220 and our kids
00:46:17.820 aren't,
00:46:18.160 are messed up,
00:46:19.560 can't we think
00:46:20.700 a little bit
00:46:21.400 about that
00:46:22.180 and know that it,
00:46:23.420 how can we not
00:46:24.240 get there?
00:46:24.860 That our family
00:46:25.700 is the most important.
00:46:27.000 That has to be,
00:46:28.540 I don't know how
00:46:29.200 you not get there
00:46:30.240 to be honest with you.
00:46:31.340 Yeah,
00:46:31.740 we usually say
00:46:32.760 God,
00:46:34.000 country,
00:46:34.740 family,
00:46:35.360 but the founders
00:46:36.440 were very clear.
00:46:37.500 It is God,
00:46:38.380 family,
00:46:39.060 country,
00:46:39.520 because without
00:46:39.960 the family
00:46:40.580 there is no country.
00:46:42.200 Without the family
00:46:43.220 there is no job
00:46:44.500 eventually.
00:46:45.560 Thank you so much
00:46:46.500 for coming in.
00:46:47.160 You're welcome.
00:46:47.760 David Green,
00:46:48.760 Bill High,
00:46:49.320 the name of the book
00:46:49.920 is Leadership
00:46:50.700 by the Book,
00:46:52.340 12 Unconventional
00:46:53.420 Principles
00:46:54.140 to Drive
00:46:55.000 Incredible Results.
00:46:56.740 Leadership by the Book.
00:46:57.860 Very good.
00:46:58.300 As always,
00:46:59.220 great to talk to you.
00:46:59.840 Enjoyed it.