The Glenn Beck Program - November 14, 2024


Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Rep. Thomas Massie & Kevin Roberts ｜ 11⧸14⧸24


Episode Stats

Length

41 minutes

Words per Minute

169.29001

Word Count

7,034

Sentence Count

531

Misogynist Sentences

9

Hate Speech Sentences

1


Summary

Glenn Beck and Stu discuss the return of the golden age of Ronald Reagan to America. They also discuss all of the latest appointments, the propaganda industrial complex, and how to take that down. And more.


Transcript

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00:00:30.000 Stu, your favorite part from today's show?
00:00:34.360 Probably the third one.
00:00:36.080 The third part?
00:00:38.120 We don't usually break it up that way.
00:00:40.200 Yeah, the third part was great.
00:00:41.440 I like the second part, quite honestly.
00:00:43.360 And that's when Kevin Roberts was in.
00:00:46.980 And we talked about the twilight's last gleaming or the dawn's early light.
00:00:52.560 Do we have a golden era coming back to America?
00:00:56.040 We also talked to Thomas Massey.
00:00:58.080 We talked about all of the latest appointments and the propaganda industrial complex, how to take that down.
00:01:08.480 All that and more on today's podcast.
00:01:10.420 The third part.
00:01:11.180 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program in 60.
00:01:15.120 It's a nice thought here in the next few months.
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00:02:48.660 Well, I wasn't bored with the news yesterday, Stu.
00:02:51.860 I'm not sure anybody was.
00:02:54.560 We said it.
00:02:55.340 We did say these are like kind of, you know, just normal, like any Republican nominee may have put these people in office.
00:03:02.760 And that changed, I would say.
00:03:04.680 Yeah, I would say that would, yep, yep, yep.
00:03:07.140 This is what you promised, right?
00:03:09.040 You get, it's always exciting.
00:03:10.600 Yeah.
00:03:10.960 And we got a lot of exciting yesterday.
00:03:12.660 There's a couple of things that I find worthy of pointing out.
00:03:18.500 If you look at it from his point of view, last time he was in office, he didn't know who to trust, right?
00:03:24.600 He didn't know the system.
00:03:25.960 He didn't know the players.
00:03:27.120 He didn't know the parties, how they actually work in Washington.
00:03:30.300 And he was stabbed in the back, in the side, in the shoulder, you know, in the chest, in the stomach, everywhere he was stabbed by everybody.
00:03:40.140 Okay.
00:03:41.160 So he's looking first, I think, for people who are loyal to his vision and perhaps also loyal to him because he was stabbed over and over again.
00:03:54.940 Yeah.
00:03:55.280 I mean, obviously, this is a factor.
00:03:57.300 Right.
00:03:57.900 And it's logical and reasonable.
00:04:00.760 I mean, Stu, you know I've been stabbed from every direction, right?
00:04:06.580 Sorry about that.
00:04:07.480 Yeah.
00:04:07.740 So, wait a minute.
00:04:10.560 And you know that I have a tight circle around me, and they are people that not everybody necessarily likes each other, but they're all people I know, because I've seen them battle-hardened, they will never stab me in the back.
00:04:28.620 Mm-hmm.
00:04:28.920 Do you know what I mean?
00:04:29.480 Yeah.
00:04:29.920 No.
00:04:30.240 And that's reasonable.
00:04:30.940 It's a very reasonable desire.
00:04:33.560 So that's the first thing that needs to be taken into consideration.
00:04:37.140 The second thing I noticed yesterday is he's also nominating people that the left will say, this is vengeance.
00:04:46.960 No.
00:04:47.840 No, not necessarily, although it could quickly become that, and I will be against that if it is a grudge fest.
00:04:55.820 Okay.
00:04:56.360 But I don't think that's what it is.
00:04:58.280 I think this is people who have been wronged by the department they're now running.
00:05:06.980 You know what I mean?
00:05:07.800 Right.
00:05:08.380 Right.
00:05:08.440 For instance, Tulsi Gabbard, DNI.
00:05:11.040 Well, what did DNI?
00:05:12.660 She oversees CIA, Homeland Security, all intelligence.
00:05:18.080 Okay?
00:05:19.120 Well, she was put on the terror watch list.
00:05:21.600 Now, you could look at that and say, oh, she's going for vengeance.
00:05:26.980 She wants retribution.
00:05:28.360 No.
00:05:29.480 I know Tulsi well enough to know she wants no one to ever face that again for political reasons.
00:05:36.980 You know what I mean?
00:05:37.620 Mm-hmm.
00:05:37.860 She was deeply, not offended, deeply disappointed in her country.
00:05:44.700 It was an assault on her honor.
00:05:50.040 That's where Tulsi is.
00:05:51.960 And she's like, my country, I mean, it's shattered for her.
00:05:55.940 My country is saying that I'm a traitor, and they're only saying it because of politics?
00:06:01.640 This is not America.
00:06:03.500 So I think she's perfect for that role.
00:06:06.820 Now, Matt Gaetz is an interesting pick.
00:06:12.960 I don't know how I feel about Matt Gaetz as the attorney general.
00:06:16.740 Wouldn't have been my pick, but I'm going to give Donald Trump the—I'm going to give
00:06:21.840 him all the rope he's asking for.
00:06:23.680 I think he has earned our trust.
00:06:26.020 He has earned the right to go fishing and pull up any fish that he wants.
00:06:32.740 Now, that is not a blanket, wait a minute, this isn't working out well kind of deal.
00:06:41.280 If it's not working out well, I'm still going to say it's not working out well.
00:06:47.100 However, if you look at what he's done in the past, he was one of the toughest people
00:06:54.340 against the Justice Department.
00:06:57.880 I mean, it's him, Massey, Rand Paul.
00:07:03.100 He went after the Justice Department, and he was in oversight of the Justice Department.
00:07:10.360 So he knows it.
00:07:13.440 He is qualified for it.
00:07:16.340 He just is possibly a loose cannon.
00:07:20.700 But the other thing I know about him is he will not stab Donald Trump in the back.
00:07:26.120 Definitely not.
00:07:26.900 He will do anything that Donald Trump asks him to do.
00:07:29.060 I hope that's not—wait a minute.
00:07:32.360 I hope that's not a blanket statement from anybody, and I'm not talking about you, but
00:07:39.120 from anybody.
00:07:39.780 I will do what the president asked me to do, unless it's unconstitutional.
00:07:45.860 Look, I don't have that much worry that Donald Trump is going to request an unconstitutional
00:07:50.480 thing, though I don't think Matt Gaetz would be the obstacle in his path if he did.
00:07:58.560 I just don't—I'm not all that concerned about Donald Trump doing that, but I think
00:08:03.340 Matt Gaetz will do it.
00:08:04.560 I mean, I can understand if I'm Donald Trump.
00:08:07.540 Like, I've been through this.
00:08:08.880 They've come after me.
00:08:09.900 I need somebody to go in there and basically fire everybody and not feel bad for, you know,
00:08:17.820 because they have relationships inside that world.
00:08:20.880 And so from that perspective, I understand that Gaetz picked, because Gaetz will do that.
00:08:24.540 He will—if Donald Trump says, go in there and fire 75% of the people, he will fire exactly
00:08:29.760 75.0% of the people.
00:08:31.740 Yeah, and I will tell you that, you know, there are different—there are different phases
00:08:38.460 of a job.
00:08:40.220 Right.
00:08:40.520 And, you know, there are war generals and there are peacetime generals.
00:08:44.540 A war general isn't afraid of getting bloody, isn't afraid of just going in just with a
00:08:49.600 hatchet and just kill them all, you know what I mean?
00:08:53.120 And I think that that's a Gaetz role, that he may or may not be—I mean, proof is in
00:08:59.200 the pudding—a peacetime guy, you know, he's the guy who goes in when you're at war and
00:09:05.680 says, all of you, out.
00:09:09.940 You know, he does that for two years.
00:09:12.580 Oh, and who's open for a gig in two—oh, Ron DeSantis is open in two years.
00:09:18.040 You know what I mean?
00:09:19.500 Yeah, it kind of seems like he's specifically designed for the beginning of this.
00:09:24.360 Yes.
00:09:24.540 Now, again, the question of whether he gets confirmed is a whole other situation, and I
00:09:28.380 know that the recess appointment situation, they're trying to get it so that they don't
00:09:32.640 have to confirm him.
00:09:33.660 I think that's probably the only way he gets the job.
00:09:36.120 I don't think he'll get through the Senate.
00:09:38.460 But he—it's not impossible.
00:09:40.680 And if he goes through the recess appointment approach, he can get in there, and he can
00:09:46.220 go for two years because of that clause.
00:09:49.200 So he would be able to only do two years, and then he would need to be confirmed.
00:09:53.220 And I don't—I mean, maybe in two years, if he just did a really good job, he would
00:09:56.580 get confirmed by the Senate.
00:09:57.720 So it's possible.
00:09:58.760 I mean—
00:09:59.080 But I think right now, he just got—you know, the guy's got a lot of enemies in Congress.
00:10:02.880 A lot of times, that's a good sign.
00:10:04.760 So—but I do think you're right in that he's the type of person that's just going
00:10:08.940 to go in there and light the place on fire.
00:10:11.760 And that's exactly what Donald Trump, I think, wants to start off because of how corrupt he
00:10:15.900 believes it is.
00:10:16.640 Yeah.
00:10:16.820 And so I understand it from that perspective.
00:10:18.620 My—I guess my—look, if I'm making the pick, which I am not, I was not actually elected
00:10:24.060 president of the United States, so I don't get to make this pick.
00:10:26.160 But, like, you know, think of a person like Eric Schmidt—
00:10:28.220 I would have gone with him.
00:10:28.940 —who is, I think, a more—you know, I don't know.
00:10:32.380 I think he would do a lot.
00:10:33.400 He would not be, I think, a rubber stamp, like I think Gates will be, for anything that
00:10:39.320 he wants.
00:10:40.040 However, he is a really serious person, can absolutely do the job, would be a—an incredible
00:10:47.240 pick for that job.
00:10:48.640 And I think brings a little more credibility, not to mention a much easier path in the Senate.
00:10:54.380 But again, you know, it's up to Trump.
00:10:55.840 He gets to make these picks.
00:10:56.780 And if this one fails, he moves on to somebody else.
00:10:58.920 And I like Ken Paxton.
00:11:01.000 Paxton's—yeah.
00:11:01.500 You know, Paxton wouldn't have affected the balance of power in the Senate and the House.
00:11:05.420 You know what I mean?
00:11:05.820 Yeah, the House is—the House is—
00:11:07.420 We're getting into worry time here, guys.
00:11:09.040 I know.
00:11:09.060 We've now taken three House members out when you have a very small majority.
00:11:13.780 I know.
00:11:13.960 And I'm sure Trump is thinking about this, because it is important to him.
00:11:19.200 He does need the House.
00:11:20.640 It's critical.
00:11:21.180 And I think they're going to get to 220 or 221, but I mean—
00:11:26.240 He's got to stop poaching from the House.
00:11:28.020 He has to.
00:11:28.460 I mean, and Johnson's, like, begging him at this point, please, nobody else.
00:11:32.180 No more.
00:11:32.200 No more.
00:11:32.500 But again, you know, they'll have—because he dropped out quickly.
00:11:36.200 Now, there's, of course, a lot around that.
00:11:39.500 Gates is—he was—they were scheduled to vote on whether they were going to release a report on all of his personal issues here in two days.
00:11:47.660 And so the fact that he immediately drops out, that means they theoretically don't—
00:11:53.660 Where do you stand on those issues?
00:11:55.440 Do you believe those to be true, or is that another hatchet job?
00:12:00.240 It's an interesting question.
00:12:01.560 I think it's—to me, again, I will say I haven't spent a lot of time diving into this.
00:12:07.100 To me, the idea that he was sex trafficking seems like a real stretch.
00:12:13.100 Like, I don't know.
00:12:14.980 I could be—
00:12:15.820 There are sex traffickers in the country, and they seem to miss a lot of those.
00:12:22.080 They don't even look for a lot of those.
00:12:24.640 Yeah, like, and he was not charged, it should be pointed out.
00:12:27.900 And, like, the idea that—it seems like even the accusation itself—
00:12:32.020 Is sketchy.
00:12:34.020 Strikes me as, like, they're stretching that into a larger crime.
00:12:37.500 Like, they're saying, basically—I mean, the accusation—we don't need to go through all this, because none of it's been proven.
00:12:42.360 We don't even have the report.
00:12:43.140 But the bottom—the accusation, if you don't know, is that he slept with a 17-year-old girl and took her on trips, which they call as across state lines.
00:12:55.140 Yeah.
00:12:55.320 And Venmo—they say they had their—his Venmo records, and they say that he Venmoed these women a bunch of money, which I think that part of it is true.
00:13:02.660 The question is, what was it for?
00:13:04.440 She—the accusation is it was for paid sex.
00:13:10.180 So paid sex across state lines, that's sex trafficking.
00:13:12.720 Now, look, when I think of sex trafficking, I'm thinking of, like, people being smuggled in from other countries and kept hostage.
00:13:17.940 I immediately think of a cargo container.
00:13:21.120 Yeah, exactly.
00:13:21.560 And that is not the accusation against him.
00:13:24.800 You know, look, it's—they're serious—you know, look, if he actually is having sex with underaged girls, like, that's a big enough deal.
00:13:31.000 And obviously, Trump is convinced he didn't.
00:13:35.560 He has denied this.
00:13:37.000 You know, there are a lot of accusations from multiple other members of Congress who say that he was, at the very least, showing them pictures of girls that he was having sex with on the floor of the house.
00:13:50.400 You know, and again, that doesn't necessarily—it's not necessarily a crime, but not necessarily the best activity for someone you're putting—you want to appoint to attorney general.
00:13:59.000 It's more Clinton-esque.
00:14:01.800 Sure.
00:14:02.580 You know, worthy of the president of the United States.
00:14:04.760 But, you know, as we know, there are—it's difficult to find somebody who isn't engaged in some horrible activity in Washington.
00:14:13.340 Yeah, I know, but I don't know where to think about it.
00:14:15.180 I hope these things are wrong.
00:14:16.300 We can't have somebody who has any dirt on them.
00:14:19.220 Oh, and he—and look, Gates is—tons.
00:14:21.440 They're about to release an ethics report on him that they are saying is very damaging.
00:14:25.880 Now, Gates is going to deny it, and he has some—like, I remember him saying, oh, actually, they're coming.
00:14:32.060 I'm being framed.
00:14:33.760 Yeah, he's denied this hard.
00:14:36.040 Some of that was true.
00:14:37.080 I mean, some—because they were coming after his dad and some related things.
00:14:40.100 So there's a long story here.
00:14:41.800 If that report comes out, which, by the way, I would expect it to.
00:14:46.120 Of course it will.
00:14:46.600 It would be very surprising if somebody who has a lot of enemies does not leak this report before this process.
00:14:52.880 But you have to remember, too, the report is still just raw.
00:14:58.740 And it's an ethics investigation.
00:15:00.540 It's not going to result in charges.
00:15:02.160 Right.
00:15:02.520 At the end of the day, right?
00:15:05.120 Like, you know, this is going to come down to whether Republicans want to cross this line for Trump.
00:15:12.800 And this is the biggest one he's presented to them so far.
00:15:15.540 If he went to Thune—and this is what I expected—he went to Thune and said, look, I'm not going to endorse Rick Scott if you give me these recess appointments.
00:15:27.200 That's—my guess is that was a big part of the deal.
00:15:30.040 He was pretty clear about it, and the reporting was pretty clear on it going out.
00:15:34.540 If that happens, he will be able to get in there.
00:15:37.660 He'll go in.
00:15:38.220 He'll shake the place up and probably only last two years.
00:15:41.120 Yeah, because he will be acting, attorney general.
00:15:44.600 Acting, and that's the maximum limit on that.
00:15:47.240 So—but I will say it will be an interesting test of that relationship and how serious Thune is in keeping that promise.
00:15:56.520 Oh, yeah.
00:15:57.020 Because Thune is not a guy that I would trust with a promise like that.
00:16:03.880 I wouldn't trust Thune with anything.
00:16:06.220 I mean, you know, he's—
00:16:07.040 Hey, could you hold this pile of dirt for me?
00:16:09.840 I'm not giving it to Thune.
00:16:12.620 Absolutely.
00:16:13.680 I'm all over it.
00:16:15.220 Thune—the easiest way to think of Thune is McConnell.
00:16:18.020 I mean, he's a protege of McConnell's.
00:16:19.880 He's basically McConnell.
00:16:21.420 Now, look, McConnell, maybe he would keep that promise.
00:16:24.200 But usually what happens here is the Senate wants their opportunity to give their opinion and their consent.
00:16:29.440 The one thing I do like about Gates is, you know, he was pushing to stop the influence industry in Washington, and he was pushing for the end of stock trader, you know, stock trading, inside information, blah, blah, blah.
00:16:43.640 He's very good on that.
00:16:44.320 And he reached out to the Uber left.
00:16:47.860 I mean, he stood with AOC.
00:16:49.820 And I love this comment from him.
00:16:51.920 AOC is wrong a lot, but she's not corrupt.
00:16:56.620 And I'll work with anyone and everyone to ensure that Congress is not compromised.
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00:18:08.100 Now, back to the podcast.
00:18:10.140 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.
00:18:12.500 I think we really, truly understand the meaning of our national anthem.
00:18:23.640 The way we sing it, it's like, okay, that's good.
00:18:26.280 Play ball.
00:18:27.660 This is one of the most tense national anthems that I have read.
00:18:32.860 It is, it's describing one night.
00:18:37.540 And it happened to the author, Francis Scott Key.
00:18:42.160 We were at war with the British.
00:18:44.720 And at Fort McHenry, the British were about to attack.
00:18:48.840 And we were trying to get a couple of prisoners back.
00:18:51.820 And so he was selected, along with another guy, to go onto this British ship and negotiate
00:18:56.700 and return the American prisoners on the ship.
00:19:00.200 But when they got there, they saw that they were preparing to attack the fort.
00:19:05.540 And so the captain of the ship said, you can't leave now.
00:19:08.900 Because now you know, you're going to be held here until this is over.
00:19:13.240 And so he put them down at the bottom of the ship.
00:19:15.140 And they watched what was happening through one of the little ship's portholes.
00:19:19.640 Now, imagine you're on the other side.
00:19:25.220 You're now on an enemy ship, locked away so you can't go anywhere.
00:19:31.400 And you're watching to see what?
00:19:34.960 You want to see if that flag comes down and another flag goes up, right?
00:19:42.020 So the lyric, oh, say, can you see by the dawn's early light,
00:19:47.000 what so proudly we hailed at the twilight's last gleaming,
00:19:51.820 means, is that flag still there?
00:19:54.280 Last night, it was there.
00:19:56.560 Is it in the morning?
00:19:57.620 This is a guy waking up in the morning after a long battle and going, is it there?
00:20:03.520 Or the ramparts we watched were so gallantly streaming,
00:20:06.800 and the rocket's red glare, the bombs bursting in the air,
00:20:09.920 gave proof through the night that our flag was still there.
00:20:13.840 So he could only see it when bombs would go off,
00:20:17.800 or things were burning, or there were rockets in the air.
00:20:21.720 When that would happen, they would look, is the flag there?
00:20:24.900 But now the sun has come up.
00:20:27.940 And he asks us the question,
00:20:30.760 does that Star Spangled Banner yet wave
00:20:33.560 over the land of the free and the home of the brave?
00:20:36.900 Are we at the twilight's last gleaming?
00:20:43.900 Or are we at dawn's early light?
00:20:48.500 We don't know.
00:20:49.620 I mean, I don't know if we're entering dawn's early light yet,
00:20:55.160 but we are at the twilight's last gleaming.
00:20:57.940 This is a fork in the road right now.
00:21:00.840 This will be studied for centuries.
00:21:03.520 This is a fork in the road right now on Western civilization.
00:21:10.240 I want to bring in Kevin Roberts,
00:21:12.260 who I love the name of the book, Dawn's Early Light,
00:21:15.760 Taking Back Washington to Save America.
00:21:18.140 It is out now.
00:21:20.080 Kevin, how are you?
00:21:22.040 Man, I'm doing great.
00:21:23.460 You ought to do broadcasting for a living.
00:21:25.120 What a perfect framing of where we are in this country.
00:21:31.960 And as you know, from this early American historian
00:21:35.320 to you, a great patriot and friend
00:21:37.480 who has forgotten more about American history
00:21:40.340 than most students learn,
00:21:42.580 thank you for that framing.
00:21:44.600 That's really where we are.
00:21:45.660 We have a lot of work ahead.
00:21:47.900 The election is just the beginning.
00:21:49.100 So you do believe that we're at the twilight's last gleaming right now?
00:21:55.320 I think that the, as Churchill would put it,
00:21:58.340 the end of the beginning just occurred.
00:22:01.880 Right.
00:22:01.980 Which is to say, you know, the next several weeks,
00:22:03.820 the Biden-Harris regime comes to a close.
00:22:05.860 I think that we're tilting toward dawn's early light.
00:22:08.660 I'm hopeful by my nature because of my faith
00:22:11.160 and because I'm an American.
00:22:12.200 But I think the key thing to the underlying point
00:22:15.260 that you're making, Glenn,
00:22:16.340 is that just because we won the election
00:22:18.660 doesn't mean that, you know,
00:22:19.900 we can go back to everything we were doing.
00:22:21.660 The hard work begins now.
00:22:22.880 Yeah.
00:22:23.440 And we're in for some really difficult times
00:22:26.620 to make this turn
00:22:28.380 and to make it without collapsing everything
00:22:32.980 and to make it fast enough
00:22:36.200 to where people will feel, you know, like Malay.
00:22:40.020 You know, he's turned that around quickly in Argentina.
00:22:43.800 I don't know if we can turn that fast
00:22:46.080 I hope we can,
00:22:47.420 but he's down to 3% inflation now.
00:22:50.000 And that's a massive, massive turn for Argentina.
00:22:55.240 But it's going to be difficult.
00:22:57.260 So what are the things that you're seeing
00:22:59.520 and you outline in the book
00:23:00.840 that we have to do to get this ship to turn?
00:23:06.020 Three or four things in the next 90 days, let's say.
00:23:09.740 The first has already happened.
00:23:11.000 We had to secure an election victory,
00:23:13.680 which has happened.
00:23:14.580 But the second thing is the men and women
00:23:17.720 who are in key positions,
00:23:19.820 we're in great shape with the president and vice president.
00:23:22.280 I would argue in great shape with the Speaker of the House.
00:23:25.780 I think we will be okay with the new majority leader
00:23:28.760 of the Senate.
00:23:29.380 Nothing against Senator Thune personally,
00:23:31.520 but he's not the most aligned with this framing
00:23:34.240 that we've just outlined, to put it charitably.
00:23:36.740 But popular will might be something that he responds to.
00:23:41.740 But the good thing, Glenn, is point number three,
00:23:45.220 which is that not everything that needs to happen
00:23:48.180 is in Washington.
00:23:49.680 And if you look across the Fruited Plain
00:23:51.780 and you see the governors,
00:23:53.420 and also very importantly,
00:23:55.700 an increasing number of local officials,
00:23:58.700 county executives, county commissioners,
00:24:00.960 school board officials,
00:24:01.800 the center right in this country has been awakened
00:24:05.360 to the reality that we all have to dig a little bit deeper
00:24:09.300 in spite of all the sacrifices we've made
00:24:11.500 to participate in the revitalization of the American dream.
00:24:15.220 But it's point four that that is the most important,
00:24:17.580 and to some extent, it's the hardest.
00:24:19.680 Politics, to some extent, doesn't matter.
00:24:22.460 It's all about society and culture,
00:24:25.440 our local communities, our families.
00:24:27.620 The thing that I try to emphasize in the book
00:24:30.100 is not just an America-first posture,
00:24:32.980 but a family-first posture
00:24:34.440 in which we're going about our lives virtuously.
00:24:37.640 We're all flawed, of course,
00:24:38.700 but as virtuously as we can
00:24:40.200 because our institutions and our politics
00:24:42.820 reflect us as individuals,
00:24:44.540 and it's really important we not lose sight of that
00:24:47.020 as we are making this turn to Dawn's early light.
00:24:50.160 We can't restore America
00:24:53.000 if we don't restore ourselves and our families.
00:24:56.380 If we don't put first principles back into our own lives,
00:25:01.080 our society is just a reflection.
00:25:03.240 I mean, our government is just a reflection of our society.
00:25:05.860 That's all it is.
00:25:06.740 We don't care about lies and corruption.
00:25:09.500 Then they'll lie and produce tons of corruption for us
00:25:13.980 because we don't really care about it.
00:25:16.180 We say we do, but do we really?
00:25:18.780 You know, once a guy on your side gets caught doing something,
00:25:21.900 you're like, yeah, well, that's not that big of a deal.
00:25:23.780 No, you've got to care about it.
00:25:24.860 You've got to care about it in your own house.
00:25:27.160 You have to care.
00:25:28.160 You know, I remember, Kevin, when I was a kid,
00:25:31.480 if I got in trouble with the teacher,
00:25:33.600 or God forbid I was called to the principal's office,
00:25:37.460 I was less afraid of the school
00:25:40.840 than I was my dad and my mom
00:25:43.640 because they weren't going to listen to my side.
00:25:46.060 You know what I mean?
00:25:46.980 They just weren't.
00:25:47.900 They were like, nope, I know you too well.
00:25:51.020 You did that.
00:25:52.720 And, you know, that happened.
00:25:54.720 Now, parents go and try to broker deals for their kids
00:25:59.420 or blame the school when it is the kid's fault many times.
00:26:03.980 Oh, it is.
00:26:04.800 That doesn't, you know, you can't do that in your own home
00:26:08.080 and expect the culture to be well.
00:26:11.160 You know, it's an excellent example.
00:26:12.620 And it reminds me when I was a senior in high school
00:26:15.520 and I thought I was a bit of a hot shot.
00:26:18.680 And so I had this liberal English teacher.
00:26:21.640 He was a very good teacher.
00:26:22.500 Her politics were terrible.
00:26:23.640 And she was probably saying something in class
00:26:25.700 she shouldn't have about politics.
00:26:27.440 And I said something that was disrespectful to her.
00:26:30.420 And I got called into the principal's office
00:26:33.220 and he was a mentor and a great guy.
00:26:35.600 And he said, look, Mr. Roberts, you just can't do that.
00:26:38.120 I was courteous to him in that meeting.
00:26:40.720 But when I got home, to your point, Glenn,
00:26:43.360 I mentioned this to my mom.
00:26:45.400 She was livid at me.
00:26:46.360 I thought she was going to be livid
00:26:47.640 at the English teacher and at the principal.
00:26:50.000 And she said, Kevin Roberts,
00:26:51.600 you get your rear end to that school early tomorrow
00:26:54.800 and you apologize to that principal.
00:26:56.720 You apologize to that English teacher.
00:26:58.640 I don't care if she's a liberal and you're conservative.
00:27:01.220 You must own that mistake.
00:27:03.460 And boy, that has stuck with me
00:27:05.280 because it's those kinds of things
00:27:07.700 that my mom's stepping up in that moment to say,
00:27:10.160 no, you must comport yourself better than that.
00:27:13.040 That that's the kind of thing we have to do
00:27:15.020 writ large across this republic.
00:27:17.020 Because just to come full circle here
00:27:19.080 and to sum up in this response, Glenn,
00:27:21.320 if you read Madison's notes
00:27:22.740 about the constitutional debates, as you know well,
00:27:25.540 Madison said, really, our motivation
00:27:27.120 in building this constitutional system
00:27:29.220 is to build a framework that acknowledges
00:27:31.320 the fallen nature of humans.
00:27:33.780 And that's really what we're up against
00:27:35.980 in the 21st century.
00:27:37.040 And people, I don't think,
00:27:38.260 understand that we've trusted government.
00:27:40.440 The founders didn't trust government.
00:27:42.360 They knew how they, because they knew people.
00:27:45.080 How the progressives want to put the elites in place
00:27:51.020 and they treat the, you know,
00:27:53.720 the hardworking, you know, everyday guy
00:27:56.160 as really the forgotten man,
00:27:58.380 that guy doesn't have the power.
00:28:01.640 You have all the power.
00:28:03.240 And we know, because of history of the human race,
00:28:08.000 the more power you have,
00:28:09.500 the more corrupt you're likely to be.
00:28:11.720 But they just dismiss that.
00:28:14.240 And that's what I think Donald Trump
00:28:15.940 is trying to reverse.
00:28:17.400 I really feel,
00:28:18.860 I feel very optimistic.
00:28:21.040 I mean, you know me.
00:28:21.660 I'm not optimistic very often.
00:28:23.980 Or maybe ever.
00:28:27.020 But I am so optimistic
00:28:29.400 because I do think
00:28:30.720 if we pay attention,
00:28:32.960 if we don't do what we did in 2016
00:28:34.860 and say,
00:28:35.560 okay, well, he's got it.
00:28:36.680 I voted.
00:28:37.160 It's done.
00:28:38.400 If we keep the pressure on,
00:28:40.680 we stay awake,
00:28:41.720 we make the changes we have to
00:28:43.240 and help them make the changes in Washington,
00:28:46.320 I think we are on the verge
00:28:48.060 of a golden age of America.
00:28:51.660 I'm convinced of that.
00:28:53.280 And while I am not as prone to pessimism
00:28:56.320 as you are,
00:28:57.580 you know that I am a hopeful realist.
00:29:00.700 And so the advice
00:29:02.120 that I've been giving to people,
00:29:03.380 you know,
00:29:03.500 that family members
00:29:04.320 from across the country call me,
00:29:05.940 friends, elected officials,
00:29:07.380 they say,
00:29:07.600 Kevin, you know,
00:29:08.440 what's the advice
00:29:09.220 or what's the posture
00:29:10.340 that Heritage Foundation
00:29:12.320 and Heritage Action
00:29:13.160 are taking with all of this?
00:29:14.300 We're going to be
00:29:15.420 accountability partners
00:29:16.420 and all of us need
00:29:18.420 accountability partners,
00:29:19.580 whether informally or formally.
00:29:21.140 And by that,
00:29:21.920 it's not so much a negative thing,
00:29:23.440 but these elected officials
00:29:24.660 need people
00:29:25.980 who are trusted friends,
00:29:28.100 who are aligned with them philosophically,
00:29:30.140 who want the same thing,
00:29:31.540 which is the restoration
00:29:32.360 of the American dream,
00:29:34.380 but who also are such good friends
00:29:36.960 that as good friends do
00:29:38.740 and only good friends can do,
00:29:40.580 we can level with them,
00:29:41.940 hopefully behind the scenes
00:29:43.020 and say,
00:29:43.520 don't do that.
00:29:45.220 Stop doing that.
00:29:46.420 And if we have this attitude,
00:29:47.780 if everyone in your audience
00:29:48.760 has that attitude,
00:29:49.900 and going back to my point
00:29:51.480 about comportment,
00:29:52.300 we do that in a way
00:29:53.180 that's charitable,
00:29:54.400 that's civil,
00:29:55.120 but also candid,
00:29:56.440 I actually think
00:29:57.320 that we are at the beginning
00:29:58.380 of this golden era
00:30:00.040 of conservative reform.
00:30:01.720 Me too.
00:30:02.080 We have to be able,
00:30:03.120 you know,
00:30:04.180 it's so weird
00:30:05.720 how
00:30:06.320 shaming
00:30:08.300 in our culture
00:30:09.380 has become
00:30:10.480 all about politics.
00:30:11.600 If you don't agree,
00:30:13.560 then you're run out.
00:30:14.940 Where
00:30:15.340 we used to agree,
00:30:17.460 not on politics,
00:30:18.360 we used to agree
00:30:19.780 on principles.
00:30:20.920 That's why
00:30:21.540 you could be a kid
00:30:23.100 in a grocery store
00:30:24.000 and somebody
00:30:24.640 who you didn't recognize
00:30:26.040 would walk up to you
00:30:27.460 and say,
00:30:27.860 you're Bill and Mary Beck's
00:30:30.980 son,
00:30:31.360 aren't you?
00:30:32.020 Yes.
00:30:32.720 I don't think
00:30:33.580 they'd want you
00:30:34.120 behaving this way
00:30:35.020 and you would just
00:30:35.780 go beet red
00:30:36.580 and you'd stop it.
00:30:37.900 You just wanted
00:30:38.460 to become invisible.
00:30:40.280 Now we're saying,
00:30:41.420 how dare you
00:30:42.200 tell me what to do?
00:30:43.960 No,
00:30:44.500 there is a place
00:30:45.740 for shame.
00:30:46.800 There is a place
00:30:47.720 for the community
00:30:49.860 to say,
00:30:51.100 look,
00:30:52.320 we all agree
00:30:53.760 on the same values
00:30:54.780 and what you're doing here
00:30:55.820 is wrong
00:30:56.660 when it is
00:30:57.940 clearly wrong.
00:30:59.420 We just
00:31:00.340 shut up now
00:31:01.380 because we're afraid
00:31:02.280 of the response
00:31:04.300 or the attorneys
00:31:05.240 that are going to get involved
00:31:06.220 or whatever.
00:31:06.940 We can't be afraid
00:31:08.140 of that anymore.
00:31:10.100 No,
00:31:10.620 we can't.
00:31:11.120 In fact,
00:31:11.560 so much of what I talk about
00:31:13.220 in the book,
00:31:13.860 although I do cover
00:31:14.640 quite a bit about politics
00:31:15.880 and policy
00:31:16.540 because they are important,
00:31:18.080 is about the point
00:31:18.840 you just made,
00:31:19.620 just our daily relationships.
00:31:21.720 And one of the reasons
00:31:22.880 I decided to home in
00:31:24.160 on that, Glenn,
00:31:25.200 is because I've learned
00:31:26.580 in the second half
00:31:28.440 of my career
00:31:29.020 where I've moved
00:31:29.680 from academia
00:31:30.380 to politics,
00:31:31.900 as you know,
00:31:32.820 that what people
00:31:33.740 are looking for,
00:31:34.680 people who listen to you,
00:31:35.980 people who support heritage,
00:31:37.900 largely the same people,
00:31:39.520 they say,
00:31:40.220 Kevin,
00:31:40.620 you know,
00:31:40.840 give me some solutions
00:31:42.640 that I can do
00:31:43.740 in baby steps
00:31:45.180 or bite-sized pieces.
00:31:47.360 And what I realize is
00:31:48.580 let's start by doing that
00:31:50.600 in our individual relationships,
00:31:52.300 our individual conversations.
00:31:54.120 And so I'll just give you
00:31:54.940 an example.
00:31:55.360 I'm encouraging people,
00:31:57.400 as exciting as it is
00:31:58.800 with all of these
00:31:59.660 cabinet appointments
00:32:00.420 the president's making,
00:32:02.080 of course,
00:32:02.620 support those
00:32:03.180 and pay attention
00:32:03.800 and be accountability partners,
00:32:05.280 but don't lose sight
00:32:06.480 of what's going on
00:32:07.420 in the politics
00:32:08.200 of your city,
00:32:09.540 of your county,
00:32:10.300 of your state,
00:32:11.280 and develop a relationship
00:32:13.000 with someone
00:32:13.600 who represents you.
00:32:14.760 Even if they are a member
00:32:16.620 of the opposing party
00:32:17.660 and you're going
00:32:18.160 to disagree on everything,
00:32:19.680 now is the time
00:32:20.940 for us to press
00:32:22.220 the advantage
00:32:22.880 on what the American people
00:32:24.260 have said loudly
00:32:25.440 and clearly
00:32:26.100 over the last eight days.
00:32:28.100 And that is,
00:32:28.920 we want to wake up
00:32:30.040 in a normal country.
00:32:31.640 So use the power
00:32:32.860 of shame
00:32:33.660 to when people
00:32:34.720 are being abnormal,
00:32:36.140 be charitable about it.
00:32:37.660 But the American people
00:32:38.980 are with us
00:32:39.780 on this point.
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00:32:50.560 All right.
00:32:53.800 Thomas Massey
00:32:54.560 is going to join us.
00:32:55.300 We're waiting
00:32:55.580 for him to call in.
00:32:56.780 But Thomas
00:32:57.500 is going to call in
00:32:58.400 and talk to us
00:32:59.200 a little bit about
00:32:59.880 everybody freaking out
00:33:00.920 about Matt Gaetz
00:33:01.920 as Attorney General
00:33:02.720 because Massey
00:33:04.560 has come out.
00:33:06.160 Massey was a little
00:33:07.020 bit sassy
00:33:07.940 about this
00:33:10.580 and is
00:33:12.640 supporting the nomination
00:33:14.720 obviously.
00:33:16.800 And here he is.
00:33:17.900 This is cut six.
00:33:19.600 He'll get confirmed
00:33:20.340 by the Senate.
00:33:21.240 Doesn't need to.
00:33:22.040 He recess.
00:33:24.260 He's the Attorney General.
00:33:26.200 Suck it up.
00:33:28.220 He's the Attorney General.
00:33:29.900 Suck it up.
00:33:31.040 That's what he says.
00:33:31.800 Get over it.
00:33:33.260 He's got to be
00:33:33.940 the Attorney General.
00:33:35.380 That's what he meant.
00:33:36.020 I couldn't tell.
00:33:37.080 It was kind of hard to hear.
00:33:38.220 But he's basically saying
00:33:39.440 look, get over this.
00:33:41.200 It's going to be happening.
00:33:42.260 Yeah.
00:33:42.680 Because the recess
00:33:43.240 appointment thing
00:33:44.020 looks, I mean
00:33:45.500 it's not been confirmed.
00:33:46.640 I think that's why
00:33:47.600 Trump was so
00:33:48.680 was okay with Thune
00:33:50.420 is he wanted
00:33:51.440 that recess appointment
00:33:52.520 which means
00:33:53.260 he's not confirmed
00:33:55.080 by the Senate
00:33:55.940 because he'll have
00:33:56.940 a hard time
00:33:57.360 going through the Senate.
00:33:59.180 Yeah, I don't think
00:33:59.780 he'd have any chance
00:34:00.520 honestly to get through
00:34:01.180 the Senate
00:34:01.460 in normal procedures.
00:34:03.020 There's a lot of people
00:34:03.800 who don't like Matt Gaetz.
00:34:04.780 Right.
00:34:04.940 And so he's
00:34:06.180 going to be
00:34:07.220 a recess appointment
00:34:07.980 as soon as they go
00:34:08.700 on recess
00:34:09.220 Trump nominates
00:34:10.680 and then
00:34:11.480 it just slides through
00:34:12.880 but it's an acting role
00:34:15.700 and the limit on that
00:34:17.060 is two years.
00:34:18.600 So somebody else
00:34:19.580 is coming after Matt Gaetz
00:34:21.020 and this is
00:34:23.060 probably a very
00:34:24.160 well-laid plan.
00:34:25.360 I don't know
00:34:25.720 what the plan is yet
00:34:26.880 but I'm going to give
00:34:28.000 President Trump
00:34:29.300 the benefit of the doubt here.
00:34:30.740 Thomas Massey,
00:34:31.560 welcome to the program.
00:34:32.380 Hey, great to be on Glenn
00:34:34.480 to talk about my friend
00:34:35.520 Matt Gaetz.
00:34:36.200 Okay, so first of all
00:34:37.600 let's start at the worst
00:34:39.560 possible place
00:34:40.840 for Matt Gaetz.
00:34:42.240 You know,
00:34:42.960 there was this
00:34:43.980 inquiry
00:34:45.620 that was going to be
00:34:47.160 released
00:34:47.760 into how bad
00:34:48.720 he is on Friday.
00:34:49.980 That's why he had to quit
00:34:51.320 right away.
00:34:52.320 That's why it happened.
00:34:53.820 Can you address that?
00:34:55.380 Well, who better
00:34:56.260 to take on
00:34:56.840 the weaponization
00:34:57.580 of the government
00:34:58.320 than somebody
00:34:58.960 who's had the government
00:35:00.000 weaponized against them?
00:35:01.720 I mean,
00:35:02.020 this is what I call
00:35:02.920 touching the red wire
00:35:04.280 to the black wire.
00:35:05.400 If you've ever
00:35:05.980 jumped a car
00:35:06.840 with jumper cables,
00:35:07.940 you know,
00:35:08.240 you don't put them together.
00:35:09.620 It's going to melt
00:35:10.460 the insulation
00:35:11.160 off the place
00:35:12.360 over there.
00:35:13.160 And if anybody
00:35:14.400 knows how to fix it,
00:35:15.820 it's Matt Gaetz
00:35:16.680 how to fix the DOJ.
00:35:18.480 Why do you say that?
00:35:19.940 Because most people
00:35:20.740 know him just
00:35:21.540 as a bomb thrower.
00:35:23.440 Well, because
00:35:24.300 he served on the committee,
00:35:26.060 the Judiciary Committee
00:35:27.100 that Jim Jordan chairs
00:35:28.580 and I serve on as well.
00:35:30.000 And we have sat there
00:35:31.300 I don't know
00:35:32.040 how many times
00:35:32.980 and heard Merrick Garland
00:35:34.480 try to say
00:35:35.180 when we ask a question,
00:35:37.060 I'm sorry,
00:35:37.720 that's the subject
00:35:38.380 of an ongoing investigation
00:35:39.800 and it's our longstanding
00:35:41.180 policy not to comment.
00:35:43.860 That's bull crap.
00:35:45.360 And I told Matt,
00:35:46.740 I expect to never hear
00:35:47.780 that answer from him
00:35:49.160 when he comes in front of me.
00:35:51.120 I am looking forward,
00:35:52.660 Glenn,
00:35:52.940 this is my dream,
00:35:54.280 to cross-examining
00:35:55.980 Matt Gaetz
00:35:56.600 in the hot seat
00:35:57.320 there in front of Judiciary.
00:35:58.520 And have him not say
00:36:00.280 what Merrick Garland said.
00:36:02.020 Right.
00:36:02.460 I can imagine saying,
00:36:03.980 hey, where are those documents
00:36:05.320 that we ask for?
00:36:06.600 Matt would probably reach
00:36:07.540 under the table and say,
00:36:08.520 here are those documents
00:36:09.500 we ask for.
00:36:09.580 Right.
00:36:10.600 So tell me,
00:36:11.820 because I don't think this is,
00:36:13.720 you know,
00:36:13.960 the left is saying,
00:36:15.000 this is revenge.
00:36:16.000 He's going to go on
00:36:17.320 a scorched journey.
00:36:18.140 He's going to go
00:36:18.600 after all his enemies.
00:36:20.000 No, I think,
00:36:21.520 like with Tulsi Gabbard,
00:36:22.980 he's appointing people
00:36:24.240 who have direct experience
00:36:26.760 of the weaponization
00:36:28.180 of government
00:36:28.760 in that role.
00:36:31.700 Right?
00:36:32.700 Yeah, absolutely.
00:36:34.040 Look,
00:36:34.400 the DOJ was weaponized
00:36:35.780 against teachers
00:36:36.680 at school board meetings.
00:36:38.020 Right.
00:36:39.060 Matt Gaetz,
00:36:40.000 it's not revenge
00:36:41.160 to say we're not going to,
00:36:42.320 we're not going to go after
00:36:43.940 parents at school board meetings.
00:36:47.420 Or to fire those people
00:36:48.820 that were responsible for that.
00:36:51.180 Correct.
00:36:51.560 Or to go after whistleblowers,
00:36:53.840 for instance.
00:36:54.720 Yeah.
00:36:55.000 It's not revenge to say
00:36:56.480 we're going to set things right.
00:36:57.920 There's nobody
00:36:58.420 that's being targeted.
00:36:59.600 I am certain
00:37:00.400 there's some people
00:37:01.200 going to be cleaning their desks
00:37:02.780 when Matt Gaetz takes over.
00:37:05.520 Some of them will be
00:37:06.480 given the notice
00:37:07.260 and some of them
00:37:07.900 will be trying to get out of Dodge
00:37:09.340 before the new sheriff
00:37:10.760 gets to town.
00:37:11.960 So,
00:37:13.020 Thomas,
00:37:13.340 is he the kind of guy
00:37:14.400 that is well thought out
00:37:15.900 and well planned?
00:37:16.940 Because he's got,
00:37:17.640 he has to move in
00:37:19.260 on Inauguration Day
00:37:22.660 and lay down the law quickly.
00:37:25.900 He's got to take that
00:37:26.900 bull by the horns day one.
00:37:29.360 Listen,
00:37:30.000 I don't always agree
00:37:30.980 with Matt Gaetz,
00:37:31.860 but he is one of the
00:37:33.020 smartest guys up here.
00:37:34.640 You can tell that
00:37:35.360 from his wit.
00:37:36.820 But,
00:37:37.180 you know,
00:37:38.200 when we question people
00:37:39.420 in the Judiciary Committee,
00:37:40.960 it's usually his questions
00:37:42.480 that are the most pertinent.
00:37:43.740 He knows the right questions
00:37:44.800 to ask.
00:37:45.360 When he gets to DOJ,
00:37:46.720 he's going to know
00:37:47.920 which rocks to turn over,
00:37:49.360 which ones are going to have
00:37:50.180 snakes and scorpions
00:37:51.400 underneath of them.
00:37:52.740 Because he's,
00:37:53.580 you know,
00:37:53.860 he spent many years
00:37:55.360 asking these questions.
00:37:56.880 I can't imagine
00:37:57.840 the day he walks in there
00:37:59.280 and actually,
00:37:59.860 instead of asking
00:38:00.560 for the documents,
00:38:01.780 gets to pull the file open
00:38:03.240 and pull the documents out.
00:38:06.280 They've got to be,
00:38:07.380 I mean,
00:38:07.840 have you guys
00:38:08.700 issued a warning
00:38:11.300 on destroying
00:38:12.460 of any kind of documents?
00:38:13.840 Because that's what
00:38:14.380 they did to you guys
00:38:15.240 with the January 6th Committee.
00:38:17.120 They destroyed them.
00:38:19.120 They only gave you
00:38:20.300 half of them
00:38:20.940 and then they were locked up
00:38:22.720 and they were like,
00:38:23.200 oh, we can't,
00:38:23.880 we don't know
00:38:24.300 what the code is
00:38:25.580 to get those.
00:38:27.700 Do you have penalties
00:38:29.000 right now?
00:38:29.740 Have you issued
00:38:30.380 any warnings on this?
00:38:32.720 Well,
00:38:32.940 you're right about
00:38:33.600 January 6th.
00:38:34.560 The Secret Service
00:38:35.560 received five
00:38:37.060 preservation notices
00:38:38.260 from different committees
00:38:39.360 in Congress
00:38:39.840 and still deleted
00:38:40.780 all of their phones
00:38:41.700 and their texts
00:38:42.460 from January 6th.
00:38:44.640 So I'm not,
00:38:45.720 I mean,
00:38:46.360 I'm not sure
00:38:47.040 what good that will do
00:38:48.080 and then you have
00:38:49.040 people who use,
00:38:49.940 illegally,
00:38:50.600 are using their private phones.
00:38:52.320 They're going to be doing that.
00:38:53.600 It's going to,
00:38:54.220 you know,
00:38:54.500 the forensics,
00:38:55.520 you better hire
00:38:56.100 a forensic expert
00:38:56.940 to try and find
00:38:57.680 some of the stuff
00:38:58.320 that's been
00:38:58.860 bleach-betted over there.
00:39:00.700 I'm sure the shredders
00:39:02.240 are in overdrive,
00:39:03.300 illegally so,
00:39:04.820 but to answer
00:39:06.500 your specific question,
00:39:07.520 I don't know
00:39:08.040 what preservation notices
00:39:09.500 we've sent,
00:39:10.600 but we should be
00:39:11.320 sending them in overdrive.
00:39:13.140 Yeah,
00:39:13.500 to every agency
00:39:14.680 and here's why
00:39:15.920 it should make a difference.
00:39:17.920 The DOJ is responsible
00:39:19.780 for putting people in jail
00:39:21.180 and holding people
00:39:22.360 accountable for that.
00:39:23.700 If you've destroyed
00:39:24.980 any documents,
00:39:26.120 you were involved
00:39:26.760 in any of that,
00:39:27.700 if you're the person
00:39:28.480 in charge
00:39:29.040 of those documents
00:39:30.340 and they can't be found,
00:39:31.880 you go to prison.
00:39:33.220 Period.
00:39:33.860 That's what it should be.
00:39:35.800 There should be
00:39:36.820 ramifications,
00:39:38.120 repercussions
00:39:38.680 for anybody
00:39:39.500 that engages
00:39:40.360 in that kind of malfeasance.
00:39:42.160 It's usually the cover-up
00:39:43.480 that gets them.
00:39:44.240 Yeah.
00:39:44.500 Not necessarily
00:39:45.440 what they did,
00:39:46.480 but their effort
00:39:47.140 to cover it up.
00:39:48.080 Yeah.
00:39:48.560 And look,
00:39:49.440 they were not planning
00:39:50.280 for Trump to win
00:39:51.260 and then they had
00:39:52.400 a backup plan
00:39:53.340 for Trump
00:39:53.980 to hopefully appoint
00:39:55.040 another Bill Barr type
00:39:56.400 who would coddle,
00:39:57.780 you know,
00:39:58.180 them and,
00:39:58.760 and really work
00:40:00.220 against Trump.
00:40:01.020 That is not the case
00:40:02.160 with Matt Gaetz.
00:40:03.260 Matt Gaetz is somebody,
00:40:04.280 again,
00:40:04.980 who's been the subject
00:40:05.960 of political witch hunts,
00:40:09.040 is going to be
00:40:09.920 more motivated
00:40:10.780 and more knowledgeable
00:40:11.880 than anybody else
00:40:13.120 on how to stop
00:40:14.040 that crap
00:40:14.480 from being turned loose
00:40:15.400 on the American people
00:40:16.300 as it has been
00:40:17.220 at DOJ.
00:40:18.320 I'm going to tell you,
00:40:19.160 Thomas,
00:40:19.380 you make me feel
00:40:19.860 much better.
00:40:20.460 I mean,
00:40:20.640 I know you,
00:40:21.400 I know your integrity,
00:40:22.740 I know what you believe
00:40:24.240 and we're friends.
00:40:25.180 hearing you,
00:40:27.020 you know,
00:40:28.640 give some testimony
00:40:29.480 here on Matt Gaetz
00:40:31.040 and what's been
00:40:31.640 going on in his life
00:40:32.660 is very heartening.
00:40:35.340 Thank you for that.
00:40:36.900 Well,
00:40:37.320 you know,
00:40:37.860 there are some appointments
00:40:38.980 where we're going to be
00:40:40.160 scratching our heads
00:40:40.980 and saying,
00:40:41.560 can we really trust
00:40:42.560 that person?
00:40:43.180 Does that person
00:40:43.860 have a connection
00:40:45.140 to the Cheney's
00:40:46.600 and the Bushes?
00:40:47.440 Are they deep state?
00:40:48.720 Matt Gaetz,
00:40:49.240 I can assure you
00:40:50.460 has none of those
00:40:51.600 connections.
00:40:52.660 If he did,
00:40:53.120 he wouldn't have been
00:40:53.700 prosecuted like he's been.
00:40:55.800 How do you feel
00:40:56.480 about Tulsi Gabbard
00:40:57.660 being DNI?
00:40:59.600 I've only got about
00:41:00.140 30 seconds,
00:41:00.880 45 seconds.
00:41:01.620 Love it.
00:41:02.740 Again,
00:41:03.240 this is touching
00:41:03.840 the red wire
00:41:04.380 to the black wire.
00:41:05.180 She's one of the people
00:41:05.980 who was targeted
00:41:06.780 and put on a watch list.
00:41:08.560 Who better to have
00:41:09.660 go clean up the watch list
00:41:11.060 than Tulsi Gabbard?
00:41:13.280 Do they have teams
00:41:15.020 that have to come in
00:41:16.200 with them?
00:41:17.260 Because,
00:41:17.640 I mean,
00:41:18.000 I'd hate to be
00:41:18.860 DNI all by myself.
00:41:21.060 Oh,
00:41:21.380 there'll be undersecretaries
00:41:22.760 and lawyers
00:41:23.520 and things
00:41:23.960 they'll need to bring in too.
00:41:25.220 Thomas Massey,
00:41:25.960 thank you so much.
00:41:27.020 The Republican
00:41:27.740 from Kentucky,
00:41:29.560 actually.
00:41:30.420 He's a libertarian.
00:41:31.320 Na, na, na, na.