Glenn Beck is back on the radio talking about the latest in the hate crimes that are going on in America's colleges and universities. He also talks about the new hate laws in Scotland and Russell Brand's baptism.
00:01:34.260That little canister of pepper spray that your mom carries around in her keychain just in case she's attacked by a very slow mugger who gets within half a foot or so.
00:01:47.480This Mother's Day, why don't you surprise mom?
00:01:51.200Give mom a gift, something that she can use to defend herself from a distance.
00:01:57.580The Burn a Launcher is a non-lethal alternative to safeguarding your home that will send potential threats running in the opposite direction.
00:25:16.340So if you think about why we play the video games, why we go to the movies and we get swept up in a world that we know is an artificial world, but we get the psychic experience of being in this great drama of good guys versus bad guys.
00:25:35.440The fate of the fate of the world is at stake and literally in video games, you can blow the world up or in Hollywood movies, the world can be blown up or be on the brink of Armageddon.
00:25:47.080And it's very, very exciting to you personally.
00:25:51.060So it is, I think, have you read, have you read Hitler's monsters?
00:26:29.560So when we turn to Dugan, I think it's, it's, it's got to be then a mix of those that, you know, personally for him, he likes that world.
00:26:38.240He likes the drama of it, but at the same time, he's largely a clear-eyed geopolitical strategic philosopher as well.
00:26:47.400And he recognizes the, the psychological and the social power that religion has and sees it as a, a necessary tool for, for his ambitions there.
00:26:57.640So before we go to his work in the Middle East, which I think is, is frightening, when he says that we are the great Satan.
00:27:25.860No, I think it's, I think in that case, it's both.
00:27:29.480For him personally, right, he does see liberalism, the West.
00:27:33.880And then if you scale out the, the entire philosophical tradition that draws upon the Greek and Roman inheritance, he does think of that as false and as immoral.
00:27:46.460But I do think when he uses the Satan language, it's slightly metaphorical for him personally.
00:27:51.360But as a propaganda message, when you are trying to rally the troops, so to speak, to speak to the broad masses of Russians, you are using language that they understand.
00:28:04.280And those people are largely religious in a certain sort, and they understand the world in a great dualistic good versus evil struggle.
00:28:13.020And it's useful for them to get them fired up, to have the enemy be identified, not just in abstract philosophical terms as sinful, as evil, as decadent, and so forth.
00:28:27.420But in more personalized terms, they are the tool of Satan or the embodiment of Satan.
00:28:33.820So let's go to what his work in the Middle East, and in particular, Iran.
00:28:42.880You know, I've, I've watched the 12ers, the people who believe in the 12, the mom's going to crawl out of a well and yada, yada.
00:28:49.940And many of the leaders, I know Mahmoud Ahmadinejad started every speech and ended every speech with,
00:28:56.980Oh Allah, give me the courage to hasten the return of the promised one.
00:29:03.180That is exactly the language of Alexander Dugan.
00:29:08.040What's the chicken and what's the egg, and what do they both have in common?
00:29:11.840So you can approach this historically and say that all of the, you know, the three great Western religions have a common source.
00:29:21.160And that historically, this has been a recurring deep theme in all three of them, but it comes out in differentiated, differentiated forms.
00:29:31.040So, you know, some Western Christians have it, some versions of Judaism have it, many versions of contemporary and historical Islam have it as well.
00:29:40.060So what is, you use the chicken and egg metaphor.
00:29:45.000So what is the, another metaphor is, is this just to say, what is the, you know, the historical mother load that is redounding down through the ages and Dugan is just currently tapping into it.
00:29:59.440So what do they have in common, Russia and Iran?
00:30:36.920And from both of their perspective, the more important enemy is the West, economically, politically, culturally, and so forth.
00:30:44.260So you're willing to overlook important ethnic differences and important religious differences to concentrate on the more pressing battle, which is to defeat the West right now.
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00:31:06.800You can say a lot of things about Thomas Massey, some of true, some of false.
00:31:12.420But the one thing that is absolutely true, he stands on his own principles and he is unwavering in those principles.
00:31:20.500He joins us now from the great state of Kentucky, Republican representative Thomas Massey.
00:32:49.720I don't know if your listeners know this.
00:32:51.260I spent three and a half hours in the same skiff with him, getting briefed by CIA, NSA, DOD, FBI, DNI, and a FISA judge.
00:33:00.600And in three and a half hours, they didn't give us a specific example, not one, of how spying on Americans without a warrant has helped them stop terrorism.
00:33:11.280They gave hypotheticals, but no example.
00:33:23.260This one we're still stinging from because you may have seen the videos that every Democrat in the House voted for money for Ukraine and then premeditated, passed out Ukrainian flags.
00:33:33.280We're all waving them and basically humiliating us.
00:33:36.220And I think Speaker Johnson, if he's capable of having shame at this point, should have been humiliated by that display as well.
00:33:43.800I put the video of that on Twitter, and the sergeant at arms told me it would fine me $500 if I didn't take it down.
00:33:55.480Because, look, you're not supposed to put video of what's happening on the floor, but that was video of things that were breaking decorum, right?
00:34:03.720I was trying to provide evidence that they were in the wrong, and instead of prosecuting them, they came after me.
00:34:09.980Now, we got 8 million views on the video after I reposted it, and Speaker Johnson backed down on that fine because he knew how bad it looked.
00:34:17.300So third betrayal was that Ukrainian vote where we send the money overseas.
00:34:23.040We gave up all leverage on any border security.
00:34:26.380It included some other bad stuff in it.
00:34:28.740Let's talk about the $4 billion to help people from the Middle East immigrate here to the United States, including Palestinians.
00:34:42.460Yeah, and see, Mike Johnson's not going to stand up against that.
00:34:45.960By the way, those three bills that I just mentioned to you, you know what happened when they went to the Senate after they passed the House?
00:34:52.580Chuck Schumer didn't even change the punctuation of any of those bills.
00:34:57.140He didn't want any amendments to them.
00:34:59.740He wanted them exactly as Mike Johnson had delivered from the House because those were Chuck Schumer's bills that Mike Johnson put on the floor.
00:35:08.340So he is already in the arms of the Uniparty.
00:35:11.740The question that you rightfully ask is why do this?
00:35:15.560Well, people are always asking me, Thomas, can you show us, can you give us a list of the good guys and the bad guys?
00:35:23.300Can you tell me who the good guys are because I've got a primary, I've got a vote in, I've got a general election.
00:35:29.420This list, you will have another list.
00:35:33.000We keep doing this at great peril to ourselves.
00:35:35.700The reason there's only a few of us who are willing to stand up and call this is because you put your reputation on the line,
00:35:43.860and people here hate transparency and they hate us for doing it, but you'll have a list next week when the motion to vacate is called of who went with Hakeem Jeffries and the Uniparty to keep Mike Johnson in power.
00:35:58.280Hakeem Jeffries, the reason he's supporting Mike Johnson, he got everything the Democrats want without any of the blowback by having Mike Johnson as speaker.
00:36:07.580And they also, they have some plans for other things, like they may resettle Palestinian refugees in the United States and pay for it.
00:36:16.760They may want to make the funding for Ukraine permanent.
00:36:20.880And before our next election, there's going to be another CR or omnibus or something.
00:36:27.880So there's some people are like, well, why would you do this now, Congressman Massey?
00:36:32.080Hasn't all the bad stuff, hasn't Mike already done all the bad stuff to us?
00:36:35.740Can't we just sit it out through the next election?
00:36:38.760No, because what Hakeem Jeffries wants more than anything is to be the speaker.
00:36:44.040And the only way he becomes the speaker is by getting the majority of the House in November.
00:36:49.120And he knows Mike Johnson is the most uninspiring speaker we've ever had who will not do anything to inspire a base.
00:36:55.140We're likely to lose, most likely to lose the majority under Speaker Johnson.
00:36:59.320So what would the plan be if you could get this to pass?
00:37:07.700I mean, well, first of all, let me ask you, how many other Freedom Caucus members are standing with you?
00:37:15.660Well, I think before Hakeem Jeffries came out for Speaker Johnson, there were probably somewhere between 12 and 20 who didn't want to speak up, but would have voted with us.
00:37:25.960Now, I think you may have maybe the entire Freedom Caucus.
00:37:32.000I know people outside of the Freedom Caucus who said if one Democrat votes to keep Mike Johnson, I ain't voting to keep him because they know what that means.
00:37:42.740That means it's the uniparty. Now, the first vote will be on a motion to table to try and prevent this from even coming up for an actual vote.
00:37:53.360But people should understand that that motion to table, if they succeed, that is the only vote that will happen.
00:38:16.300Now, if we could succeed, OK, if we can get past that motion to table and maybe Hakeem Jeffries has only 40 Democrats who are willing to walk the plank,
00:38:26.460because I can imagine that's going to be tough for them in their primaries unless they're planning on retiring.
00:38:31.000Could you imagine you saved the Christian speaker who is against abortion and all this other stuff?
00:38:38.820And what's this? Anyways, so I don't I'm not sure how many votes Hakeem has, but I think he helped us grow our numbers.
00:38:46.000Let's say we make it past that first vote and there is a motion to vacate and Mike Johnson is vacated.
00:39:02.920If he would announce that he's leaving like John Boehner did in 10 weeks and he won't be offended as we have votes to replace him while he's still the speaker,
00:39:12.000we could go without ever not having a speaker.
00:39:15.040We could keep doing subpoenas in the Judiciary Committee.
00:39:17.640We can hold hearings and we can pass all these wonderful little messaging bills that they love to pass.
00:39:23.040But if that doesn't happen, we have to elect a speaker.
00:41:46.480He actually should have done the 1% cut option that Kevin had secured at great, you know, and spent a lot of political capital on getting that provision in law.
00:41:56.320So those are three things that Kevin did that Mike didn't.
00:41:59.940And Kevin, you know, he put three of us on the rules committee that gave us a blocking position, Chip Roy, Ralph Norman, and myself.
00:42:38.480You know what really confused me is the readiness with which sort of the big spenders in Washington, D.C.
00:42:47.820were accepted Mike Johnson as a valid speaker candidate after defeating Jim Jordan multiple times.
00:42:55.540They found Jim Jordan unsuitable, but they found this junior member very suitable to the job who had no experience, you know,
00:43:03.340had never been a chairman, didn't have much staff.
00:43:05.920And I think at that point they got some assurance from Mike Johnson that he or some feeling that Mike Johnson would be a good guy to carry the water for the establishment here in D.C.
00:44:42.280And I know as improbable as it sounds and as resolved as Mike Johnson seems when he goes to the podium.
00:44:47.360That's exactly how John Boehner was until the five minutes he took to resign.
00:44:53.220Thomas, I know we only got about a minute left, but if the concern is that, you know, Johnson will work with Jeffries when he's put up against a wall and do these things.
00:45:03.180If if you go forward with this, you're making Johnson's political life dependent on Hakeem Jeffries saving him.
00:45:10.720I mean, couldn't this potentially just make all of this worse?