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00:00:00.000 so the new kkk uh they like them jews and the gays that's uh yes that's what they that's the 0.97

00:00:07.900 new kkk way apparently apparently because there was a guy and this happens all the time guys in 0.70

00:00:15.820 a big truck u-haul rental you know and uh he tries to bust down the gate of the white house and what

00:00:22.360 do they do the first thing you do first of all u-haul truck somebody trying to get in near a

00:00:27.840 government building what do you think of tim mcveigh tim mcveigh yeah so the first thing you do

00:00:32.900 right there at the white house is you just roll that big door open yeah yeah okay yeah and then

00:00:41.080 you just start pulling stuff out and you're like what's in here and leave it by the crowd that's

00:00:45.180 gathered nearby yes so they can see it clearly right because you know i'm sure whatever was in

00:00:50.560 there was was totally safe you know what i mean right so he's just driving around with stuff in

00:00:57.160 the back of his truck and then he tries to bring that stuff into the white house uh in a very

00:01:03.920 forceful way but stew there's a couple of problems um they first of all we know who he is because as

00:01:12.140 they were taking stuff out of the truck right in front of the white don't take it someplace safe no 0.58

00:01:17.380 take it put it right then they put it out on the streets they're laying it out you know what they

00:01:21.660 found hmm they found a nazi flag white supremacist materials and that shows that this white supremacist

00:01:28.360 was right was white supremacist believing that the whites are supreme except he's not white no not at

00:01:35.280 all at least according to reports which which indicate to me he'd be a bad white supremacist

00:01:42.520 like it would not be the top of the of the organization well i don't remember the white

00:01:47.480 supremacy groups being colorblind yeah that was one of their main right focuses like that right if

00:01:53.360 that was one of your issues eyesight wise you probably weren't welcome in one of these organizations

00:01:57.780 right they're like we're not racist anymore yeah weird stands for white supremacist but we go into

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00:03:09.980 tim my man how are you sir i'm good how are you well i'm i'm good i've i want to come on to your

00:03:18.780 show you've invited me a a few times but i don't know getting there and the bag over my head and

00:03:25.340 being thrown into the back of the van it's yeah we're up in the top of the mountain so you know

00:03:30.320 got to keep it a secret right yeah how are you uh pretty good pretty good i mean things are things

00:03:36.500 are going great out here we're we're expanding quite a bit we got a new studio that's that's

00:03:39.680 popping up very excited for that yeah other than that just doing the show talking about the news and

00:03:44.400 then uh i guess to a certain degree giving my money away to people who need it more than i do good for

00:03:49.740 you good for you what you're doing with uh daniel perry is so or daniel penny is so any pair of the

00:03:56.860 other guy yeah uh penny is what you're doing is so important this guy i can't believe we live in a

00:04:05.560 in america today that is going after this guy well i was on the i was on the other side of it uh to a

00:04:13.960 certain degree when the story first comes out because i i've i've been really just really

00:04:18.120 frustrated with what i view is not enough people standing up for us our moral values or a moral

00:04:25.700 framework you know and so with say cal rittenhouse for instance um 100 we got it we got to save this

00:04:31.600 guy with daniel penny i i first said you know what obviously this guy should not be going to prison

00:04:37.440 he did the right thing he was defending others but if you choose to live in these cities and you are

00:04:43.220 not pushing back against this the changes if you're voting for these people i have no sympathy

00:04:48.900 and so that was what i was saying the week prior and then i had a few conversations some people made

00:04:54.960 some good arguments to me and i realized you know what there is a very very good reason to actually

00:05:00.960 be in this fight to make sure penny does not go to prison the first is you know i felt kind of bad 0.98

00:05:05.860 to see everybody rallying to save this guy from prison here i am being this kind of dick like i screw you 0.92

00:05:10.420 you made your own bed but i thought about two things one someone said to me it's not so easy 0.97

00:05:16.020 just to leave a city when you know what tim when you say get out of the cities because they're getting

00:05:20.840 bad and the the democrat policies are soft on crime it's getting worse you understand some people can't

00:05:27.840 just up and leave and my response was always well it may be very very hard and it may be the hardest

00:05:32.580 thing you've ever done but you certainly can move out of these cities and then someone made a really

00:05:36.740 good point they said my my wife left me through no choice of my own and my kids are here and i will

00:05:41.980 not leave them behind and i'm like okay that's a that's actually a good point something there there

00:05:46.040 really are circumstances where people they they want to stay there they want to push back they don't want

00:05:50.880 the cities to fall into this this chaotic garbage and you know i was a bit short-sighted on that and i can

00:05:56.480 respect that but then the better argument was if daniel penny loses this fight then the self-defense

00:06:03.220 then self-defense in this country erodes and it's only a matter of time before it comes to your

00:06:08.940 suburbs and then to your more rural areas and that was the most compelling thing to me i was like well

00:06:14.180 look i've always agreed this guy is a hero who's done the right thing but actually it's a really good

00:06:18.660 point let's so so when i went and you know i wake up one day and i'm looking at the fundraiser i said

00:06:23.600 basically because i was such a dick we're on a nfcc airways i just want you to be careful that's all right 0.78

00:06:31.420 uh i i should probably uh lead out on this one and so uh then i uh decided to you know i looked at

00:06:40.940 what the current numbers were and i said i can afford to do better i could so i i put up twenty

00:06:45.180 thousand dollars for for genial penny kind of in a uh i should have donated in the in the first place i

00:06:50.820 was wrong to say you're on your own and i do want this guy to win i do want self-defense to win

00:06:56.380 and so uh i i i put up the 20 grand and i and i said i know there's a lot of people who can

00:07:03.320 probably give more than me and i challenge them to do so and there's another reason on top of it

00:07:08.860 let's let's send a message that the protests which triggered this man's arrest are meaningless

00:07:14.820 because you have in you have in new york city these protesters come out they're violent they get

00:07:20.380 arrested and they use that to garner sympathy and yet this our reporter who was simply standing

00:07:25.900 there filming was physically attacked by these protesters and i said i want to send a message

00:07:31.400 that these protests don't work and so that means we have to counter those protests with something

00:07:36.780 more powerful and that's winning the legal battle here for daniel penny well i um uh i i just i look

00:07:44.280 at this story and i think to myself what you said about it come to your town next you this is going

00:07:51.860 against all of human nature and this is what progressives do in the end it's always going

00:07:56.760 against human nature it is saying that you don't have a right to defend yourself or protect others

00:08:03.480 and for a guy to stand up i mean the thing of this who was his name uh todd beamer wasn't he the guy the

00:08:11.120 let's roll guy all he did was exactly what todd beamer did after 9 11 or during on 9 11 where he was

00:08:19.980 sitting in the plane the hijackers take over and he's like let's go come on it's us or them and

00:08:25.880 they took him down and we celebrated we celebrated that guy here's another guy i don't think he wished

00:08:32.420 him ill he just wanted to stop him from doing any damage or hassling people and uh and we don't have a

00:08:40.820 right to do that if he loses you're exactly right we have to sit there and take it there's also um i

00:08:49.660 believe i can't remember how long long ago it was in new york another man was being violent on the

00:08:54.980 subway and getting people's faces and a man put him in a chokehold and subdued him and he got

00:09:00.160 interviewed on television as a hero so something changed or has been changing over the past several

00:09:05.100 years and i think while i can certainly point the finger at these far left extremists and and these

00:09:11.780 soros da's and these policies i think the bigger problem is not that evil exists but it's that good men do

00:09:18.660 nothing and so in a place like new york city i wonder why it is the people of new york city

00:09:24.180 knowing that crime is is getting out of hand why aren't people protesting for penny that that was

00:09:30.960 initially what got me on sort of the negative side of this like look the people of new york city come

00:09:36.100 out and protest to have this man arrested this is what they want if the people of new york city

00:09:41.720 wanted something different they would be standing up for daniel penny but they don't do it

00:09:46.520 now all that aside my ultimate conclusion is we we we need to we need to be that support then we

00:09:53.080 need to help this man win this legal case lest it come our way always be standing up for people who

00:09:59.180 are doing the right thing lest one day it is you on the firing line and no one speaking up for you

00:10:05.000 well i just think it's go ahead i'll go ahead i was going to say i think it's interesting that

00:10:10.340 where where is the shared conviction and moral framework of the american population we can see

00:10:17.320 it with this movement to provide resources to penny for his legal defense but we don't see it on the

00:10:22.900 ground the way the left does so not only are the left fundraising like crazy when it comes to political

00:10:28.960 issues they're out there getting physically violent and organizing massive protests and voter

00:10:34.700 initiatives and that that seems to be the stronger organizational power we've got to counter that

00:10:39.840 we've got to wake people up we've got to tell people that the only thing required for evil to

00:10:44.840 triumph is that good people do nothing and we need those good people to stand up so i think the

00:10:50.260 the problem is not that people are unwilling to stand up they're unwilling to stand up under these

00:10:57.120 conditions because i think the january 6th scared people enough that if they go stand up there might be

00:11:04.480 an fbi informant there that's going to start something uh they if if the left comes in starts a fight

00:11:12.200 they're going to be ones they're called the terrorist i think people are much more comfortable being at

00:11:17.860 home they feel safer being at home giving uh than they do marching and that is a problem but i don't see

00:11:25.460 a martin luther king that is leading that you know freedom freedom isn't free and if this is how we

00:11:33.760 as the american people choose to progress that is to say the average person says you know what

00:11:38.020 it's easier for me to stay home and keep my head down then then the next generation the generation after 1.00

00:11:43.900 that things will just keep getting worse but the i think back to the the greatest generation i think

00:11:50.620 back to the men and women who fought in the american revolution these are people who said if i don't do it

00:11:56.240 who will and if i don't do it what am i leaving for my children but now it seems very much so that

00:12:01.980 that mentality certainly exists among these leftists who believe crazy things but the average american

00:12:09.280 the irregular person says just leave me alone and this allows the more extreme elements of the left to

00:12:15.700 run rampant capture institutions and to be honest i i am fairly optimistic though i think uh freedom

00:12:22.180 personal responsibility meritocracy i think all that's going to win i think this is just a great

00:12:27.400 challenge before us in our in our current decade or generation but i'm i'm i'm pretty sure we got

00:12:33.260 this one i do i i don't i don't see the chaos of the left functioning properly there's a fire that is

00:12:39.880 raging but i think i think it'll i think we will stop it i do i have a sneaking suspicion that that is true

00:12:48.580 i wasn't there a year ago um but i am there now i mean it's going to be a race to the finish um and

00:12:56.500 i'm not sure for you know i i i wouldn't want to bet my house on who's going to cross that finish line

00:13:02.600 first but uh they are so out in the open now and the things that they are pushing are so crazy

00:13:11.920 that i just don't think that americans will continue to take it maybe i'm wrong yeah i i agree

00:13:20.000 no i i do think so um i think what we're seeing with penny i think this is a sign of people saying

00:13:28.880 okay okay maybe i do need to be active because it will come to your house and you know i talked about

00:13:34.740 this several years ago i said when the mob is outside protesting and screaming the police will have a

00:13:40.920 decision they'll say do we arrest the man in his home one man or do we try to arrest 200 violent

00:13:49.400 rioters and they're going to say look it's easier to keep the peace by arresting the one man and you

00:13:54.920 know what we saw that happen in milwaukee a couple years ago a large group of black lives matter

00:13:59.440 protesters had set or i should say rioters at this point set fire to a house twice because they were

00:14:05.840 demanding that these two young girls be released who weren't even there it was just mob mentality

00:14:10.800 this same group mostly the same group same organizers showed up to a man's house and began

00:14:17.740 a similar protest when he brandished his shotgun from inside his own home as a warning to these

00:14:23.960 people like who had previously burned down a house i'm not saying it was the right thing to do

00:14:27.020 but when he did the police came to the cheers of black lives matter and arrested the man in his own

00:14:33.800 home and carried him away and they celebrated it and it was interesting because we said i thought

00:14:37.780 black lives matter wanted to defund the police no no no they want to remove any police who are willing 0.60

00:14:43.060 to support american values self-defense they arrested a guy in his own house and i warn people

00:14:48.900 if you don't stand up if you're not active the cops will simply say look you don't ever protest there

00:14:56.660 is no political pressure from you the violence and the fear that we feel is coming from the far left

00:15:02.100 so we're going to do what they want we got we got we got we got to send a message we're stopping that

00:15:06.540 we're saying no no no no no we're going to stand up against this and we're going to put pressure in

00:15:11.600 the right way which is through the legal process yes to put an end to the violence and the chaos

00:15:16.680 good for you tim tim thank you so much great to talk to you and uh keep up the good for having me

00:15:21.620 you bet tim tim pool host of uh tim cast at timcast.com or youtube back in just a second

00:15:28.260 this is the best of the glenn beck program and don't forget rate us on itunes in the federalist

00:15:34.620 there is a uh great op-ed the lessons of jordan neely your courage and sacrifice will be punished

00:15:41.640 i just want to give a few pieces of this we have peach keenan on with us in just a second 1.00

00:15:46.980 um she says weakness is strength courage is hatred in the aftermath i tweeted strong men brave

00:15:53.400 enough to intervene publicly when a deranged lunatic is terrifying people are going to be

00:15:57.980 rounded up first it's brilliant it's a brilliant strategy for the regime pick off the bravest and

00:16:02.900 most selfless heroes first leave the cowards behind who will all fall in line fast the worse

00:16:09.440 is the subway vikings fate the worse the vikings fate is the less likely any of us the sane ones

00:16:16.200 will be tempted to lift a finger when they come for us our friends or our neighbors if the viking gets

00:16:21.700 20 years on rikers island plus some prison rapes and beatings for good measure as the guards look the

00:16:26.740 other way that'll teach you boys a lesson she goes on to uh talk about um in um in this terrible 0.96

00:16:36.140 ugly upside down zero trust society i have been forced to raise a family uh and i have developed a

00:16:44.420 new survival rule i have instructed my husband and son to be cowards that's right to do nothing if 0.95

00:16:52.800 they are in a situation where dangerous psycho is threatening violence on a stranger i've begged with

00:16:58.600 them to sit on their hands to be one of the people who just watches runs away calls 911 it goes against

00:17:05.640 everything in in their bodies but i want them uh with me not dead or in jail she said i feel like i have

00:17:16.380 failed as a mother because i forgot to teach my sons to be cowards i'm hoping this is uh sarcasm

00:17:25.440 uh but peachy keenan is is here with us hi peachy hi glenn how are you i'm really good really good

00:17:33.020 um we have a lot you have a lot of fans uh here at the program and also at the blaze so

00:17:38.960 keep it up thank you so much awesome i love it um so tell me i mean you you talk about in this op-ed

00:17:45.600 about your husband uh he took on a guy much bigger and this guy was bothering you and uh he won the

00:17:55.460 fight and you guys got married oh right yeah i did mention that in an article i think he probably

00:18:02.800 would rather i'd not bring that up but yeah he he he he did i was in a situation like that in new

00:18:07.860 york city there was a very large uh very drunk man who was in my face harassing me wouldn't leave me

00:18:14.240 alone we were outside a bar at night you can imagine and my husband just decided he just acted

00:18:20.680 and he took the guy down i mean you know he wasn't like harmed that much but you know he maybe

00:18:27.640 got a little bloody nose and he left us alone and we got out of there and yeah i at first i was sort

00:18:34.240 of horrified because my like you know my normal instincts as my you know i used to be this sort

00:18:39.040 of like feminist you're liberal and so i was sort of like oh my gosh you hurt him you know like

00:18:46.420 you're not supposed to do that but then later i had he kind of nursed his hand i was like you know

00:18:52.220 that was kind of wow that was that was very macho like okay yeah i will marry you yeah i mean it did

00:18:59.140 sort of impress me a little bit you know like this is a guy who can defend a woman and that's in short

00:19:04.280 supply these days and that's what we're supposed to do but we have destroyed men so much that most

00:19:13.880 are not going to get up they're not they're going to look the other way hope somebody else is going to

00:19:19.020 deal with it and i remember right after 9 11 i flew up to new york i was on one of the first flights

00:19:24.920 uh to new york and uh there were only four of us on the plane and one was this drunk

00:19:32.840 bad guy and uh he uh he stood up and he was arguing with the stewardess and the other two men that were on

00:19:44.760 board with with me we got up and walked to this guy and the stewardess was like no no don't i've

00:19:52.800 got it under control and we just looked at this guy like you don't sit down we'll force you to sit

00:19:58.740 down and there was this this feeling of that's what you do i mean todd what was his name todd beamer

00:20:05.620 yeah who ran and and say we don't do that now now we're being taught the exact opposite

00:20:12.800 yeah i mean for many years you would get on a plane and guys i know would tell me every time i get on a

00:20:19.420 plane i'm looking around and like they're they were like kind of ready you know just in case there was

00:20:24.500 another situation they were they were ready to do what they had to do to save their own lives and to

00:20:30.060 save strangers lives but now you can't because you're going to be filmed and you're and you know

00:20:36.140 aoc is going to get the video and she's going to post it and she's going to call you a bad guy

00:20:40.700 and so we live in this upside down world where you know safety is you know the only safety that they

00:20:48.340 care about now is their constituents safety from police from good guys from good samaritans you know

00:20:57.080 they want to be safe from from hate speech from racism but your actual physical safety just going

00:21:03.000 about your daily life is no one cares like get pushed in front of a train you know a violent

00:21:08.780 psychopath on the subway you know those people in that car with with um with daniel penny they thanked

00:21:14.320 him you know these are people of color you know he they they said it was a situation like no other

00:21:20.800 they were so grateful he intervened but yeah men like men can't intervene anymore you know

00:21:26.840 people have been masculinity has really been like totally neutered um you know literally literally

00:21:33.060 and figuratively boys have been castrated i mean let's just that's what it is so tell me what is

00:21:41.260 what do you think the fate how do you think this is going to end you mean with daniel penny yeah

00:21:48.220 oh my goodness i mean it will it's what is it going to a grand jury in a few months i mean just

00:21:55.640 based on the witnesses statement it seems crazy that they would you know that they would you know

00:22:02.300 even go after him yeah i mean just there's no evidence that he did anything a racist i mean obviously

00:22:09.020 or intended to hurt him permanently to kill him or obviously it was just this crazy kind of freak

00:22:15.300 accident and he had he felt like he had no choice and his alternative was to sit there while this guy 0.75

00:22:21.300 punched someone in the face or who knows what he would do no one knew no one knew what he would do

00:22:25.640 predict and he just he had a split second to decide and he acted but you know new york city is so crazy

00:22:32.040 i mean the fact that they even arrested him after the cops let him go is just tells you how crazy they

00:22:37.380 are it's all ideological you know they had jordan neely the other day with al sharpton in the in the

00:22:43.960 golden casket just like i predicted you know this thing is so predictable how this will play out just

00:22:49.940 floyd part two that it makes me very worried but um you know luckily he has what two and a half million

00:22:56.780 dollars worth of um of legal aid so you know we'll have to see so do you think do you think that a jury

00:23:03.220 in even in manhattan uh the people of his peers will be people that have run the subways you know

00:23:10.960 been on the subways recently and the subways are terrifying right now terrifying yeah um do you think

00:23:17.840 that they would convict him um yeah it really depends who he gets i mean the whole the whole

00:23:24.440 notion of quote a jury of your peers i mean that's like such a myth like that's just gone like think

00:23:29.600 about who's living in manhattan these days and his only hope is like people who um maybe kind of

00:23:35.600 typical liberals biden voters or whatever but they're people who are also in the real world who

00:23:40.840 are being dealing with these people on the subways and they may they may reject the the prosecutions

00:23:47.400 argument totally but you know these people are real dirty they play real dirty and um if they 0.93

00:23:54.820 just want to make it about they want to put all white people on trial they want to put all race 0.95

00:24:00.860 anything racist that's ever happened on trial and this one guy is the fall guy you know it's

00:24:06.060 sort of like reverse oj so do you think this is but do you think this is racist do you think that they

00:24:12.620 were um the city was afraid of the protesters or do you think this is racist or that they are sending

00:24:22.520 a message to everybody you have no choice but to sit down and take it uh quite a little of both but i

00:24:30.920 think primarily it's about distracting people from the real villain here which is the city's total neglect

00:24:38.080 of their giant homeless schizophrenic population and their complete inability to do anything about it 1.00

00:24:46.480 and so this is their way of pointing the finger at the guy whose fault it is where meanwhile penny is

00:24:53.340 just another victim in all this and so is the so is jordan neely and the real the real villain the

00:24:59.360 real person who should be literally in prison for multiple murders are the authorities who let this

00:25:05.280 happen who let michelle go get pushed in front of a train you know last year in new york city um who

00:25:11.600 let who lets women get raped and stabbed in new york city on subways in their apartments by by men that

00:25:18.440 they know about they have long records they just let them go you know these are the people who these

00:25:23.700 are the crimes that they should be held accountable for but they never will and so instead they just have

00:25:28.420 fat they found a convenient fall guy we're talking to peachy cannon she is the american editor 1.00

00:25:34.400 contributing editor author of a book that comes out next month called domestic extremist one last

00:25:41.000 question are you were you being serious about telling your husband and your son to sit down and don't

00:25:48.660 do anything um you know we've had this exact discussion i mean it's something i live in fear of

00:25:54.680 whenever my teenage sons leave the house you know they're driving around we live in a big city

00:25:58.600 um you know god forbid they run into the wrong the wrong person you know um they they're boy scouts

00:26:05.600 you know they've gone they've almost to eagle scout level their their instinct is to defend and protect

00:26:11.040 and you know be good they're they're catholics they're they're christians they're moral and i've

00:26:16.540 actually had this discussion with them and just like if there's a situation that is going sideways

00:26:21.260 get out of there get out of there and my sons push back they're like well if there's someone

00:26:25.580 they're hurting someone like i'm going to do something i'm like well look if it's your little

00:26:30.460 sister if it's a little kid like yes like that's a situation where maybe you should you know put

00:26:36.280 yourself in in grave danger but in a situation between adults like you just don't just go away

00:26:41.640 before it escalates why you know why risk the rest of your life i mean it's really sad i mean

00:26:48.420 it's one of the reasons that it's scary to live in a in a soros da run city i mean it's very

00:26:54.320 terrifying thank you so much peachy i appreciate it we'll talk to you again when your book comes

00:26:59.200 out awesome thanks so much glenn you bet peachy keenan that is that's that's a little terrifying

00:27:07.760 that of mine and i understand that i understand what she just said i think yeah i know i have that

00:27:14.800 same instinct at times and my thought was always i like let let me fight that stuff out at a larger

00:27:20.840 level if you're in the middle of one of those situations now again if you have to protect

00:27:25.060 someone's life it's another story but like if there's some of these times sometimes these

00:27:28.600 situations are just going sideways and you're in a situation of risk get to remove yourself from

00:27:33.820 that risk we'll try to move we'll try to move society at another moment but live to try to fight

00:27:39.680 that battle tomorrow it's an understandable instinct from a parent i'll tell you that i feel it all the

00:27:44.500 attorney gets oh yeah what mayor uh was that dinkins or was that uh ed coach maybe i don't remember

00:27:53.220 what year let's see i mean back at that it's interesting that we deal with these every time

00:27:57.860 the city goes crazy every time there's a democrat that is in office and they and they destroy the city

00:28:05.880 crime goes through the roof and eventually somebody says enough is enough i'm i'm just no

00:28:12.400 i'm not taking it and uh and bernard gets was the last time when you had the when you had

00:28:21.200 rudy giuliani in office that wasn't happening yeah it was ed coach by the way yeah 1984 and what did

00:28:27.240 he what did he go to jail for it or not gosh it's been so long i know i don't remember yeah i have to

00:28:33.180 look back at that i thought he didn't i didn't think so i think that that's why he asked that

00:28:38.080 question uh this time are is a jury of their peers going to put him in jail and i don't think he did

00:28:44.240 and his was you know pulling a gun on a guy this one this one is i think even harder to send somebody

00:28:51.280 to jail did it now and i'm looking back and he did serve time in prison but for something else right

00:28:56.120 he had some other not it wasn't for the actual shootings of that day well but well it's it's like

00:29:02.620 it's a little i'd have to read back on it it's been it's been a long time but it one of the

00:29:06.240 situations where like look again don't try to mug people on the subway this is the best of the glenn

00:29:12.400 beck program and we really want to thank you for listening why from the great state of kentucky

00:29:17.660 it's congressman thomas massey how are you sir i'm doing well glenn thanks for having me on yeah um

00:29:25.320 we're just we're just about a week away from millions of americans becoming felons yeah and i have

00:29:31.380 been trying to get an answer on this i know people who have these guns uh and they were purchased

00:29:38.100 absolutely legally they were legal everything else there's no grandfather clause now and the atf

00:29:45.120 is making it a felony as of is it the end of next week isn't it that's right june 1st if you own one of

00:29:54.200 these stabilizing braces for a pistol and it's mounted to a pistol an ar-15 pistol or something

00:30:00.260 similar they say you're in possession of a short barrel rifle on that day unregistered if you haven't

00:30:06.740 registered it and uh you'll get 10 years in prison if you're convicted okay listen this is this is

00:30:12.820 thomas massey um questioning the atf director listen how many days do people have to comply with this

00:30:20.260 rule um so uh they can always comply but the the initial period before they're felons but the

00:30:26.680 initial period uh i believe uh ends at the end of may okay but people are so we're and it was 120 days

00:30:35.180 is that correct people are only felons if they intention is it 120 days the law uh i believe it's

00:30:42.160 120 days so we've got 36 days left of the 120 day grace period can you tell us here today how many

00:30:49.200 people have complied by registering this product uh i am not sure of the exact number i can check

00:30:55.480 though and get back to you uh there are people who are making applications there also can be

00:31:00.140 detachment so in other words we don't count we don't that's not for us to regulate if somebody

00:31:05.100 simply we wrote the rule to make it easy to comply with if somebody just at their home detaches

00:31:10.300 the weapon from the brace and keeps them apart uh they do not have to register anything they can

00:31:15.580 keep the brace they can keep the business end of the gun okay that that's a great clarification so

00:31:20.240 you're not going to do some kind of constructive uh prosecution where you say oh you had this and

00:31:25.120 you had that and you intended to connect keeping i mean they can just keep them separately as we

00:31:29.460 keep them separately but okay because that's not clear in your rules um and and it how what is the

00:31:36.040 punishment if somebody is uh convicted as a felon under having this piece of plastic if people are

00:31:43.120 convicted of not filing the gun control act uh it's a serious felony conviction but that requires intent

00:31:49.680 is can you just give me the number is it 10 years uh i i don't i believe it's a statutory maximum of 10

00:31:55.960 years i had 10 years for owning a piece of plastic so the advice he gave you that's the first i've heard

00:32:05.240 that advice it flies it flies in the face of the rule that they have published and the slides that

00:32:11.960 they've put out uh they say that you must permanently remove and dispose of or alter the

00:32:18.700 stabilizing brace such that it cannot be reattached in other words you the rule says you have to destroy

00:32:25.000 it but under oath the atf director just told us that all you have to do is detach the two and so he

00:32:32.420 created this and this is why congress needs to be writing the laws not some freaking administrative

00:32:38.520 agency because for 10 years they said this was legal now they can say it's illegal and now he just

00:32:44.900 muddied the waters again so jim jordan and i sent him a letter on may 8th uh because as he said the

00:32:51.020 deadline's june 1st and he hasn't responded yet we want him to clarify this it's it's important to be

00:32:57.300 clear on laws because people will be convicted of this so so thomas what do you do i again i have

00:33:08.040 friends who have these what do you do well uh somebody on twitter told me he hid his in the desert

00:33:15.800 you know i it's it depends on your appetite for non-compliance now i'm not a lawyer and i don't

00:33:28.680 want people to go to jail but if i did keep these two and i did separate them uh as the atf director

00:33:35.260 testified under oath that you could do i would use that as a legal defense if i were prosecuted but if

00:33:41.620 you're in a courtroom giving a legal defense you may have gone too far already there's a chance

00:33:47.200 there's a very good chance this will be struck down in the courts but in the meantime it is it is

00:33:52.020 assumed to be the law of the land even though it's just a rule promulgated by atf and what is it

00:33:56.900 they're going to do go door to door to see who has these some of my colleagues asked that question

00:34:03.960 uh i suspect if they want you for something else they will use this as an excuse and uh here's the

00:34:14.240 other thing glenn it's against the law for the u.s government to create a registry of gun owners but

00:34:21.300 that is the remedy that they've suggested if you don't uh they said you can register these things

00:34:26.900 now set aside the fact that in 13 states that's illegal to even register a short barrel rifle but they

00:34:33.900 said that you can register these things you know do your fingerprints send in your picture and all

00:34:39.780 of that to the uh to the fbi and all and the background check and the atf and that but now

00:34:45.420 they're creating a registry of millions of gun owners so i you know i'm so glad you played that

00:34:52.940 testimony of of the atf director it's so hard to explain the way he bumbled the answer and may have

00:35:01.100 may have just created a legal loophole for millions of americans again i'm not a lawyer i'm not telling

00:35:06.720 you did you get a did you get a response back from the atf he said you you know like 10th of may

00:35:12.860 you wrote to them right nothing yet nothing yet it's been two weeks and we're one week away from d-day

00:35:20.220 and um he hasn't responded in this by the way i signed it as chairman of the subcommittee on the

00:35:27.180 administrative state and jim jordan signed it as chairman of judiciary so you know this isn't we

00:35:34.160 didn't tweet this this is a letter sent on congressional letterhead uh to the atf director

00:35:39.940 he needs to respond these by the way i'll provide this letter for somebody's legal defense if they

00:35:46.040 need it at some point yeah well you know what i'd love to i'd love to take it and post it online

00:35:52.520 uh so people could have it um so um thomas help me out on um how we're going to stop this these guys

00:36:03.700 don't seem to care about congress they don't seem to care about the supreme court or anyone else

00:36:10.360 this has got to stop all of our agencies are way out of control there's only one way to do it there's

00:36:18.640 only one way to stop them uh the the polite letters are not working i'm convinced they're

00:36:24.000 heating their buildings over there with our letters in the winter time uh and scalia i had a chance to

00:36:30.360 meet with antonin scalia when he was alive and my colleagues were upset because remember when obama

00:36:36.000 was president and we were in the majority they were doing the same stuff and scalia said you're the most

00:36:40.940 powerful branch of government use it and one of my colleagues said well it's so hard to impeach

00:36:45.980 somebody scalia says i'm not talking about impeachment you all fund everything you complain

00:36:51.220 about so here we are we're in the majority all the spending bills originate in the house we just

00:36:56.520 need to defund this crystal brace rule now our first opportunity to do that will be october 1st that

00:37:02.800 creates several months of jeopardy and who knows if that makes it through the senate but if we refuse to

00:37:08.320 fund it they can't fund it in the senate so that's what we need to do defund the rule

00:37:13.520 and when we talk about defunding um we're looking at the budget uh with joe biden i mean these people

00:37:22.780 are so destructive i i wouldn't put it past them to go into default um and that doesn't mean what

00:37:31.800 everybody in the media is saying but i i think they would they wouldn't mind that option do you

00:37:38.900 or are you convinced that mccarthy will stand firm on this well i hope he does stand firm i don't know

00:37:47.500 what's going to happen if the if it comes back squishy i ain't voting for it that's all i could

00:37:51.520 tell you is myself i won't vote for it and by the way it when we reach the point at which they can't

00:37:57.720 sell any more of the postal workers pensions fund which is what they're doing right now they're selling

00:38:02.200 the postal workers pensions fund liquidating it so they can pay pensions in ukraine to government

00:38:07.380 workers but when they run out of when they run out of that runway they we still have money coming

00:38:13.860 in enough to service the debt it would take a conscious decision from yellen to to decide to

00:38:20.360 default on the debt when we reach the the ultimate debt limit she would have to consciously decide not

00:38:25.800 to service the debt because she's going to have enough money to service it absolutely incredible

00:38:32.300 just incredible what's going on uh thomas one last thing i'd love to have you on because you know you

00:38:38.520 went to mit you have uh several patents uh behind you um this ai uh controversy that is going on i've

00:38:47.880 been warning about ai in the way i'm both very excited and also at the same time very terrified

00:38:55.780 that it means also either the best or the worst and maybe both of them uh and we have to have a

00:39:02.920 national conversation about this and now it appears as though it is uh growing uh too late to have that

00:39:10.580 kind of confirmation uh conversation how worried are you are are you on on ai not narrow but general ai

00:39:20.080 and you things that are going on now you've been at the front of this i remember many years ago you

00:39:27.140 were my guest at the state of the union and we went out to dinner before the state of the union and you

00:39:31.460 brought this up it must have been four or five years ago yeah uh so you've been in front of this

00:39:37.380 my my concern glenn is that the government uses it as the ultimate social tracking tool uh it takes

00:39:46.760 work it takes determined hard work on the part of bureaucrats to make your lives miserable and to

00:39:51.860 spy on you but with ai they could automate the whole thing and have 350 million americans under the watch

00:40:00.020 they could tell the ai go out and find all of the urls that glenn beck has visited for the last 20 years

00:40:06.260 and be very diligent and search every server everywhere and i could see an ai doing that so i'm not i'm not

00:40:14.160 that concerned about its use in private sector now let me put a little postmark on that or a post-it

00:40:21.580 note because the private sector is working hand in glove with the government we just found out from

00:40:27.600 the fbi whistleblower that bank of america uh released the gun records of everybody who used

00:40:35.000 the bank of america car to buy a hot dog between january 5th and january 7th like they they claim they

00:40:41.200 the fbi whistleblower claims that bank of america volunteered that so my concern is does ai fall in

00:40:47.120 the hands of the government we could write laws to stop that and you know the government abuses people

00:40:52.340 but then my secondary concern is the private sector uses ai and contracts for the government and they

00:40:57.800 think they've found a loophole to the constitution yeah and that sounds most likely i mean i've talked

00:41:02.980 to several people and and uh you know they said well you know we could pause it maybe and the government

00:41:08.380 can get involved in laws and i said first of all most of the people up on capitol hill don't know

00:41:13.020 how to use their even cell phone they're so old um you know who are you going to talk to up there and

00:41:20.800 kamala harris being in charge of of the uh the the summit on it is a joke but i'm i'm not sure that

00:41:30.580 i i'm not sure who runs the nation anymore if it is the government and they have big tech under their

00:41:38.120 thumb or big tech has the government under their thumb i i don't want either of them with this

00:41:43.960 kind of technology the the reality is we have congressional staffers not the staffers that

00:41:50.240 work for your congressmen but the ones who work for the committees and and a lot of them are good

00:41:54.720 people but there are detaillees that come from the executive branch to congress to work inside of

00:42:01.080 these uh committees and then you have people who work on k street or they worked for a big tech

00:42:08.180 company and they come in and they work on these committees not for any particular congressmen

00:42:12.520 but that's where most of the laws get written and i'm afraid that a lot of congressmen are going to

00:42:17.400 defer to these detaillees from industry and and and private business yeah um thomas thank you so much

00:42:25.540 for everything that you're doing if you get a response to your letter and if you if you want to send

00:42:30.220 me that letter i'd love to post that um but uh please let us know what's you know what's happening

00:42:36.820 on this front this is i've i've never seen our government uh take so much care to make so many

00:42:45.880 americans felons overnight it's disgusting and we need to stop it i'll send you the letter glenn thank 1.00

00:42:52.220 you very much for covering a week away thank you thanks thomas bye-bye well that's the closest i've 0.95

00:42:58.400 gotten to an answer from anyone um and it's not an answer it's not an answer no i mean there's a lot

00:43:07.240 of potential legal answers there at least and what that's something and what he said is so

00:43:13.660 even more terrifying they're not going door to door he believes that they will if they want you on

00:43:21.320 something else they'll come in and check and see if you have this so this is just a way again to exert

00:43:30.840 power over people

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