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00:03:38.940 you're listening to the best of the blend back program all right welcome to the

00:03:52.900 blend back program i'm glad you're here there's a lot going on today um i wish i had two hours

00:03:59.940 uh with uh tim burchett he is um the congressman from tennessee um so many things to talk about

00:04:07.900 This guy tends to just say things, which I wildly appreciate, because none of the stories that are in the news today are really about the story.

00:04:17.400 I mean, this thing with Swalwell, it's not about him being a dirtbag.

00:04:21.620 Everybody's known he's a dirtbag.

00:04:23.460 Literally every 50 women in his office, 50 women.

00:04:27.940 How does that happen?

00:04:28.960 And nobody knows.

00:04:30.400 And now the media is going out and patting themselves on the back saying, oh, yeah, look, this is good journalism.

00:04:35.520 We found this out.

00:04:36.800 please please give it a rest you because he became an inconvenience to the power structure

00:04:44.280 ends justify the means they needed to get rid of him so now he's an inconvenience so go ahead guys

00:04:50.420 get him and that's what happened and nobody nobody's even questioning the power structure

00:04:55.540 behind this nobody's even questioning how did he get away with this for so long

00:04:59.880 because it's a game it's a game and i'm tired of it i know congressman bruschette is uh tired

00:05:07.600 of it as well um congressman how are you sir congressman are you there he's now regretting

00:05:18.020 coming on he's like oh here we go here we go no i got you there you are are you there yeah yes sir

00:05:23.380 i'm well i'm okay my daughter's cat is in heat and all the barn cats are lining up in the

00:05:29.860 front porch like um like congressman looking for a pack check so um i'm gonna even my and i and i

00:05:38.100 hate to correct you but it's actually birch it like burr under my saddle and chat and chat like

00:05:44.800 no you're good everybody does it every nope nope you're good the only person that hasn't messed it

00:05:50.860 up is president trump oddly enough so i appreciate you brother and it's a well if you have your name

00:05:57.140 pronounced correctly by me you are one in a million so yeah um so congressman um first of all

00:06:04.460 give me your thoughts on on what is happening with swalwell yeah yes sir i i i tweeted about it

00:06:12.900 yesterday or day before yesterday he has become a threat to the power structure look he had a

00:06:19.440 relationship with someone who is a suspected chinese communist spy and he was on the intelligence

00:06:26.300 intelligence committee and pelosi and all the democrats voted to keep him on it this and look

00:06:32.960 and now so now he's he's shacking up with a hooker or something i don't know allegedly um and now

00:06:40.140 they're oh we're getting morals now we can't have this you know this is a joke it is a complete and

00:06:46.000 total joke and i'm thank you for calling it out i thought i was the only person out there who would

00:06:50.820 do it if everybody's known about this stuff there is no secrets in washington that's why i sleep in

00:06:56.960 my office at night i don't i don't need the distraction and i and i love my wife and daughter

00:07:02.600 very much and i'm you know and also i'm broke but that's another reason to sleep in my office at

00:07:09.120 night but you're the one but yeah but yeah this this this town is infinitely broken and crooked

00:07:16.540 As we say at East Tennessee, it's crooked as a dog's leg.

00:07:20.400 And I wish people would quit calling it a swamp, because a swamp is something pretty cool.

00:07:25.340 It's created by God.

00:07:26.420 It's like a microcosm of the earth.

00:07:31.340 I mean, it filters water.

00:07:33.120 Animals live and breed and thrive there.

00:07:37.000 Washington, D.C. is a sewer, brother.

00:07:39.140 It is created by man, and it stinks.

00:07:41.280 And America better start paying attention.

00:07:43.600 12% of the population will vote.

00:07:45.500 You got preachers won't preach the gospel.

00:07:49.800 Our country has fallen apart at the seams.

00:07:52.420 Forty percent of so-called evangelical Christians don't vote.

00:07:56.040 Thirty percent of gun owners don't vote.

00:07:59.200 And I'll guarantee you, dadgummit, they'll be the first ones to call my office when something goes wrong.

00:08:05.820 So let me switch to another topic.

00:08:09.340 You know, what a surprise.

00:08:12.200 This is going to floor you.

00:08:13.160 If you haven't heard the news, it's going to floor you, America.

00:08:15.500 Apparently, that whole impeachment process was dirty, that everybody was lying, everybody

00:08:22.600 was involved, and they had nothing.

00:08:26.600 They had nothing.

00:08:27.780 They manipulated the system, and Alan Dershowitz is coming out today saying, for the first

00:08:33.300 time in American history, this can now be expunged from the record.

00:08:38.700 This was so bad that it should be expunged from the record.

00:08:42.680 Again, nothing's going to happen.

00:08:44.120 Nobody's going to go to jail for it.

00:08:45.500 But I mean, how how much trouble are we in, Congressman, when this can be done and nobody will really pay a price?

00:08:55.680 And I wish you'd call me, Tim.

00:08:57.500 I'm sure somebody is going to get a real stern letter written to him and somebody is going to wag their finger at somebody and not a dadgum thing will happen to anybody.

00:09:07.560 That is just the way this town is, because everybody's compromised, Mr. Beck.

00:09:11.600 everybody's got dirt in their background when you get to these higher levels and they're afraid to

00:09:16.960 do anything and the gloves need to come off america needs to see somebody in chains let out of the

00:09:22.760 capitol building and it's gone on long enough i agree with you that go ahead that that's that i'm

00:09:30.980 sorry to interrupt i'll call you tim if you'll call me glenn um the sorry to interrupt but that's

00:09:36.160 the lesson that that the republicans need to learn from hungary over the weekend they didn't

00:09:42.380 it wasn't they didn't get off the bandwagon of being conservatives they said the conservatives

00:09:48.260 that are in power will not stop the corruption we need to stand for the corruption if it's in

00:09:55.440 our house or somebody else's house it's got to be exposed and people have to go they believe

00:10:01.840 the Republicans now have stopped serving the people. The minute you are, the minute people

00:10:08.880 think you serve yourself and not the people that voted you in, you're done. And that's where the

00:10:14.660 people are. 100%. I couldn't have said it better. This message approved by a budget for Congress.

00:10:23.340 Look, we have got to call it out in our own house because if we don't, we become the Democrats.

00:10:30.500 we become something of convenience and if it costs us the majority for for a short amount of time

00:10:37.860 do it i think america is ready for it and that's why one of the reasons america doesn't trust

00:10:43.200 congress you know i always say everybody both parties are crooked theirs are just a little

00:10:49.040 more crooked than ours and and i think that's the case unless we show america otherwise and by doing

00:10:55.480 So we've got to go after our own members and take the gloves off.

00:11:01.240 But it's not just that.

00:11:05.000 It's how do you explain something that is 80% popular with everybody, Republicans, Democrats, independents, and it won't pass the Senate.

00:11:15.900 You're not serving the people.

00:11:18.320 The question is, who are you serving?

00:11:20.580 So it's not just going after your own people.

00:11:22.980 it's about doing the things that the american people want and if somebody is breaking the law

00:11:29.500 then that needs to be solved that has to be those people have to be punished we're talking about

00:11:35.460 punishing people now we can't even agree on punishing people who are killing people you know

00:11:40.360 stabbing them 50 times because you know they're in a special interest group well the biggest special

00:11:46.440 interest group, quite honestly, is the progressives and all of those who are just milking the system

00:11:54.020 on all sides in Washington, D.C. Those people have got to pay. They have to pay or we don't

00:12:01.560 have a republic. When I was in the state legislature, I would put bills of mine up that

00:12:08.080 were good bills that the state of Tennessee people wanted in my district, and I knew they were going

00:12:13.360 to fail. And the reason I did that was because I want people to see how people vote. You know,

00:12:20.040 we had that bill up about, I think it's important to know because that's what's happened in the

00:12:25.980 Senate. You've got some rhinos, if not Democrat members of the Republican party that they're

00:12:32.600 trying to protect. And it's all about leadership. It's all about the suburban. It's all about the

00:12:37.380 posse. It's all about, you know, having the front row seats at all the events and being introduced

00:12:43.260 and having your butt kissed as soon as you walk in the door,

00:12:46.860 and that creates groupthink, and that weakens our country,

00:12:50.360 and that is what we've got now.

00:12:52.000 Because to get in power in Washington, D.C.,

00:12:55.560 this may come as a surprise to you and some of your listeners,

00:12:58.120 and I hope it does, but to get in power, you've got to do two things,

00:13:02.140 and I don't do either one of them very well at all.

00:13:05.800 You have to kiss a lot of butt,

00:13:08.340 and you've got to raise a ton of money for your party.

00:13:10.640 And they literally, literally have to, they will literally issue you a bill at the beginning of the conference.

00:13:21.660 And both parties do it.

00:13:23.060 They put it on a piece of paper, Mr. Glenn, excuse me, and they give it to you.

00:13:27.580 And the press is in on it.

00:13:29.240 Listen, if Congress was the NFL, Peyton Manning would still be waiting to get in.

00:13:35.760 because to get there, early on, the lobbyists will, you know,

00:13:42.560 you see the favorites and the fair-haired child of both parties

00:13:47.020 and how they kind of promote them and the media promotes them.

00:13:49.900 It's all a game. It's all a game.

00:13:52.040 And then all of a sudden, oh, wow, they're in the press.

00:13:54.600 I'm going to write them a check.

00:13:55.720 I know.

00:13:56.020 And then they gain all this money, and they nurture them

00:14:01.100 and bring them along, you know.

00:14:02.620 So, and then lo and behold, they're moving up the leadership chart.

00:14:09.560 And then all of a sudden, they're a chairman.

00:14:11.040 I remember when I first got to Congress, our then leader, who's no longer in Congress, said, hey, man, I sometimes will mentor some people.

00:14:21.880 And I'd love to mentor you.

00:14:23.020 And I said, great.

00:14:24.260 And so they started checking around on me.

00:14:26.280 And then guess what?

00:14:27.460 I never got another mentoring session because I didn't do the game.

00:14:31.920 When I first got to Congress, I remember I went to my – there's like a selection committee that allows you to get on certain committees.

00:14:38.740 And I'm not – I've been in Congress eight years, and I'm still not on an A committee, obviously.

00:14:43.760 And they said, we're going to see how you vote, which I understood.

00:14:48.940 And then they said, and we'll see how you do across the street.

00:14:52.340 Now, what that means is you can't raise money in the Capitol building, which probably a lot of them do.

00:14:57.760 but you have to go across the street to make fundraising calls and to raise money and to have

00:15:02.680 fundraisers and so literally they tell you that when you get to congress and it is infinitely

00:15:08.700 broken because of that and you know honestly glenn i don't the the big boys they never support me to

00:15:16.560 the day after the election and then they call me in and want to write me a check my my contributions

00:15:22.000 are these little bitty ones they're 25 and a sweet little woman's written a bible verse on a piece of

00:15:27.560 paper and wrapped it around a check that's but but that's few and far between people like me

00:15:33.720 because they just bend and scrape and it's a and we've got to hold people accountable and i would

00:15:39.840 encourage people to find out how your person votes 300 um 357 members of congress voted to

00:15:51.020 keep that slush fund that pays for all these deviants in congress that get back and they pay

00:15:57.320 them off with your money 357 members of congress now granted some of them misunderstood it and all

00:16:04.120 this other but that should be that should be a national how come abc nbc cbs cnn fox how come

00:16:10.560 none of them covered that it just to me it blows my mind because it's that kind of stuff and only

00:16:15.380 people covered it are the glenn becks of the world and how you stay and on the radio is amazing to me

00:16:22.860 Well, I will tell you this.

00:16:24.420 When I left Fox, last thing Roger Ailes said to me, he said,

00:16:28.540 you know what your problem is?

00:16:29.540 And I said, no, sir, what is my problem?

00:16:30.980 He said, you won't play the game.

00:16:32.740 And I said, you know what, sir?

00:16:34.540 Some of us don't believe it's a game.

00:16:37.700 And I don't think the American people think it's a game.

00:16:40.920 It's the future of our country.

00:16:42.920 It is.

00:16:44.020 Tim, I am out of time, and I didn't even get to half of the questions.

00:16:48.100 I want to have you back.

00:16:49.120 You have said some amazing things.

00:16:50.820 You said you've seen classified information that, quote, would set the earth on fire and leave the public up at night.

00:16:59.740 Anna Paulina Luna is is asking for the release of a bunch of videos today.

00:17:08.160 Is this is this a distraction or is this real?

00:17:12.260 It's real. It's real. We just there's two it goes too deep.

00:17:16.820 And when I sit in a classified briefing and some little punk with a man bun bureaucrat in the Biden administration tells me that that the president is on a need to know basis, that that to me is that should tell you all you need to know right there.

00:17:31.860 They need to rip the cover off this thing and expose it because it's not about little green men and flying saucers.

00:17:38.260 I have my own theories on that. It's about what are we spending tens of millions of dollars on that they tell us do not exist.

00:17:44.280 like may i have you back you're so hard to book may i may i ask you to come back and spend some

00:17:52.100 time with me i'm gonna tell will will in my office to to call you back and and to call you today and

00:17:59.320 set something up brother thank you thank you thank you very much and it is a huge huge honor

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00:18:15.020 dig that. So thank you, brother. I appreciate it. Thank you very much. I appreciate it. Thanks

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00:20:03.340 all right may i start with an open letter to uh congressman swalwell

00:20:10.200 congressman can i still call him that what time is it no he's still congressman i'd like to speak

00:20:19.460 to you today about due process due process it's a crazy idea and here's what it is that

00:20:29.680 no one no matter how powerful how prominent how despised how despicable can be stripped of their

00:20:37.960 reputation their livelihood or their uh their liberty without evidence investigation and a

00:20:43.540 fair opportunity to defend themselves well that's a cute outdated idea isn't it it's a shield that

00:20:52.240 protects the innocent from the mob and the mechanism that ensures the guilty are held

00:20:57.880 accountable, but only after the facts are examined in the light of day with a court of law.

00:21:04.920 Due process, due process. Again, a quaint little idea. It's not a favor that we grant our friends

00:21:13.300 and reserve for those we like. It's a right extended even and especially to those who we

00:21:19.680 find contemptible. You, I find contemptible. If we abandon this when the target is convenient,

00:21:32.040 well, we've already surrendered it for everybody, including ourselves. So let me take you through a

00:21:37.480 little history here. In 2018, during the confirmation hearings for Brent Kavanaugh,

00:21:42.540 you, Congressman, stood before the cameras and made your position unmistakably clear.

00:21:49.680 You warned against what you called the demeaning of victims of sexual assault,

00:21:56.960 insisting that people deserve to be heard

00:22:00.000 and their allegations deserve to be investigated.

00:22:04.140 Okay. All right.

00:22:05.880 I think that's probably pretty good.

00:22:10.120 I think people should be heard in a court of law.

00:22:14.280 But you went further.

00:22:15.360 You suggested that if Kavanaugh were innocent, we should bring in all of the victims, all of them, to be questioned, because that would just clear his name.

00:22:29.400 I was clever of you.

00:22:31.020 You argued that multiple accusations could not simply be dismissed.

00:22:38.960 When separate and independent claims began to look the same,

00:22:43.320 You said the arrows are all pointing in the same direction, and either the axe happened because of that,

00:22:50.420 or the accused was simply the most unluckiest person in the world.

00:22:58.560 Congressman, do you feel the same way today?

00:23:03.980 Because now you have 50 women, 50, from your office claiming the same thing.

00:23:10.760 wow i mean should we bring them all in should we question them publicly

00:23:19.560 or is this time different i mean perhaps you are the single unluckiest person in the whole world

00:23:28.220 at the time you even push back on applying strict legal standards in public judgment

00:23:35.240 noting, quote, the testimony of a single witness can prove any fact.

00:23:43.300 And you said at the time, and amplified the message, believe the survivors.

00:23:50.860 So perhaps we just bring in one woman out of the 50 and let her speak publicly and believe her

00:23:59.460 because she, as you pointed out, is a survivor.

00:24:02.940 You see, you showed little to no patience for caution,

00:24:08.520 little emphasis on presumption of innocence,

00:24:11.740 little concern for due process in the court of public opinion.

00:24:16.780 And what's truly sad is at the time, unlike today, you were not alone.

00:24:24.680 But boy, I bet you feel alone today.

00:24:32.940 In the broader climate of the time, including accusations against Donald Trump,

00:24:44.160 you shouted the same theme, that women should be heard.

00:24:49.300 The claims should carry weight.

00:24:51.780 The process should not be used to silence them.

00:24:56.880 Where is Me Too today?

00:24:59.040 You still Me Too?

00:25:02.940 By the time you hear this monologue,

00:25:09.400 because I'm assuming you're not listening right now, congressman,

00:25:12.640 in fact, I should probably not call you congressman,

00:25:16.520 but because the time you hear this, you won't be congressman anymore.

00:25:21.900 It seems as though the sword has turned.

00:25:27.220 Multiple women have come forward accusing you of serious sexual misconduct,

00:25:32.900 Investigations have begun.

00:25:34.300 They're not going to go anywhere.

00:25:35.340 Don't worry about it.

00:25:36.060 It's just about wrecking your reputation.

00:25:38.980 And the calls for your resignation came swiftly, didn't they?

00:25:43.540 And now you're facing the same storm you helped direct at others.

00:25:51.120 Hmm.

00:25:53.380 Now, is it that...

00:25:56.840 is it the fact that people like you the objects you directed before are being judged without due

00:26:08.340 process that's what you say you object to it because you can't do that without due process

00:26:14.920 and within days of an allegation being made suddenly due process to you eric seems to matter

00:26:22.260 and isn't it weird and a bitter symmetry that is happening here you once argued that accusations

00:26:29.540 carried its own moral force that patterns of claims pointed pointed towards truth no matter

00:26:35.940 what and that the accused should open themselves fully to prove their innocence now you ask for

00:26:43.920 time you ask for fairness you ask for restraint the very principles you minimalized are the ones

00:26:52.120 you now invoke

00:26:53.320 here's where

00:26:58.080 Eric

00:26:58.580 here's where it becomes

00:27:02.060 difficult for me and people like me

00:27:04.160 because

00:27:06.040 you have been such a destructive

00:27:07.640 dishonest selfish slimy

00:27:10.320 I could go on

00:27:11.520 force

00:27:12.520 that never seemed to care about

00:27:15.760 anything other than your own

00:27:17.580 personal agenda

00:27:18.760 where was fairness

00:27:20.500 And so it's very hard for people like me who actually believe in American principles to be consistent.

00:27:30.200 But thankfully, I am not you.

00:27:34.620 Justice demands something really difficult.

00:27:39.820 And so I am compelled to grant to you what you did not grant to others.

00:27:46.960 because due process is not conditional.

00:27:51.800 The allegations against you, however serious, however numerous,

00:27:56.280 remain allegations.

00:27:57.900 And so I am not going to say this is what you've done.

00:28:01.600 I could say, wow, the arrows are all pointing the same way.

00:28:09.100 But justice requires evidence.

00:28:11.440 It requires investigation.

00:28:12.500 It requires the opportunity to confront claims and defend oneself.

00:28:16.960 to deny this to you now

00:28:19.320 would not correct a past wrong

00:28:21.980 although it would feel really good.

00:28:25.580 It would simply repeat it.

00:28:30.340 And it's weird because at the same time

00:28:33.360 the consequences are already unfolding.

00:28:38.220 You now, like those whose lives you destroyed

00:28:43.180 and forever smeared,

00:28:44.620 you may never actually get an actual trial

00:28:48.780 because nobody in the end really cares

00:28:52.240 because you were protected by the same system

00:28:55.800 that is now delivering this severe blow.

00:29:00.400 Your career has taken this blow.

00:29:03.840 Your ambitions have collapsed.

00:29:06.300 Your reputation has been deeply damaged.

00:29:09.960 And I believe that there's no one

00:29:12.040 who deserves to feel that pain more than you

00:29:14.160 but you know isn't it interesting the same machinery that you used to smear others and

00:29:20.920 protected you because if this is true if you have 50 women in your office and everybody knew it

00:29:27.380 everybody knew it but you were convenient because you were leading the band you were destroying

00:29:37.820 the progressive enemies and so they protected you and in that your arrogance grew and grew

00:29:46.040 and grew and grew you were untouchable you were invincible

00:29:50.180 until you become an inconvenience and then marxist and progressives do what they always do

00:30:00.060 ends justify the means, you are expendable.

00:30:05.840 It's really sad and tragic, but I hope today

00:30:09.200 somebody learns a lesson.

00:30:13.180 Eric, here's the lesson.

00:30:16.800 Eternal laws are eternal.

00:30:21.000 Eternal laws, laws that cannot be fooled or manipulated,

00:30:24.980 nor the judge bought off by political appointments

00:30:27.840 because the judge himself is eternal.

00:30:31.180 He set up these laws, and they act no matter what you do,

00:30:35.900 no matter what man says.

00:30:38.420 And here's one of those.

00:30:40.940 Those who live by the sword shall die by the sword.

00:30:46.220 Or here's one even better.

00:30:49.280 As you judge, so shall you be judged.

00:30:53.340 that's why i cannot deny the eternal laws and principles nor can anyone like me even though

00:31:02.920 we would love to you may think eternal principles don't apply to you that they're old-fashioned

00:31:09.960 but god and his simple truths are unchanging and they apply to you as they apply to me so if i

00:31:17.900 if I just condemn you today

00:31:21.840 and don't give you the opportunity

00:31:24.220 that you didn't give anyone else,

00:31:27.540 then I'm using the same sword

00:31:29.140 and I shall die by that sword as well.

00:31:32.540 The rules we make for our enemies

00:31:34.880 will one day be used on us, Eric.

00:31:40.980 The standards we abandon in the moments of anger

00:31:44.400 will not be there when we need them.

00:31:47.900 Glenn, the process we erode for convenience

00:31:54.060 will not protect us when the tide turns, politicians.

00:32:01.100 Due process is not weakness.

00:32:04.520 It is not delay.

00:32:07.160 It is not an obstacle to justice.

00:32:09.700 It is justice, America.

00:32:12.980 and those who discard it when it is inconvenient should not be surprised

00:32:20.060 when they find themselves without it when it matters most.

00:32:31.340 All right, welcome Sean Davis from the Federalist CEO and co-founder

00:32:36.060 and a guy who has, I mean, really, Sean, you and your team have done more for this story.

00:32:42.060 we did uh a i did the i think i did the biggest chalkboard i've ever done on the impeachment and

00:32:49.280 we did six months of research and i had enough evidence at the time to i said at the time i

00:32:56.300 think i could go to a grand jury and just present this case and you could get indictments on this

00:33:01.960 you have taken this story and now pushed and pushed and pushed and now with the revelations

00:33:07.560 that i want you to talk about now you could take this to a court of law and you can get

00:33:11.420 convictions. So A, thank you. B, what has been revealed now? Tell us the story in a way for

00:33:21.220 people who have not been following it. Well, Glenn, you are very generous. Thank you for that.

00:33:26.320 Thank you for having me on. Yesterday was a big day. So after six and a half, nearly seven years,

00:33:32.360 we finally got the transcripts of testimony from the intelligence community inspector general.

00:33:38.860 And for those who may not recall, this was the guy who took possession of that infamous so-called whistleblower complaint in 29 that blew up and ended up turning into the first Trump impeachment.

00:33:51.280 And I think a lot of us at the time, even though this was kind of our first little foray into the impeachment nonsense, we're all wise and veterans of that now.

00:34:02.620 We all smelled a rat.

00:34:04.380 We all knew it was fishy.

00:34:05.960 And what these transcripts that were released finally showed was that it was actually much worse than many of us suspected.

00:34:12.560 There was so much Democrat chicanery going on behind the scenes.

00:34:16.760 They were coordinating with each other.

00:34:18.600 They were colluding.

00:34:19.720 They were changing rules.

00:34:21.160 They were breaking rules.

00:34:22.540 They were leaking and they were lying.

00:34:24.340 All so that they could overthrow a president because he, the man who was elected by the people, didn't like the foreign policy that had been chosen by a bunch of unelected, faithless bureaucrats in Washington.

00:34:40.360 So what did we confirm yesterday?

00:34:45.400 What do we have now as evidence?

00:34:47.620 What was the chicanery?

00:34:50.340 So we learned a couple of things that we had always suspected.

00:34:53.660 And the first was that, and this was something we reported on very early on, which was that the inspector general actually changed their internal rules for how you could file whistleblower complaints.

00:35:07.140 Before this, this so-called whistleblower, I call them axe grinders, came in and decided he was going to try and overthrow the president.

00:35:14.240 The intelligence community had certain rules about what you had to have in a complaint in order for it to be valid.

00:35:20.040 And one of those rules was you had to have first-hand evidence of criminal wrongdoing.

00:35:26.760 And at the time, they never, ever had it.

00:35:29.360 This guy had a call transcript that he read, and he didn't like things that the president said in the call transcript.

00:35:36.140 And then so he went and talked to other people and put down their recollections and kind of his own third-hand view of things and said,

00:35:44.340 this is a criminal thing and they need to look into campaign finance and all these other criminal

00:35:49.500 violations. And it turns out in order for that thing to have even been accepted under the previous

00:35:54.280 rules, it would have to have had firsthand evidence, which he never, ever had. It was all

00:35:59.640 hearsay. It was all second and third hand evidence. And you had the inspector general secretly change

00:36:06.080 the rules, backdate the forms, mislead about what the intention was so that he could make this

00:36:14.280 thing, which never would have been valid, somehow magically valid so Schiff could go run against

00:36:19.900 Trump on it. And then the second thing he did is we learned all of the behind the scenes Democrat

00:36:26.700 collusion that was going on. You had this inspector general that was breaking rule after rule after

00:36:32.280 rule in order to release this complaint. You had DOJ saying nothing's wrong here. You had the FBI

00:36:38.340 look at it and kind of scoff. You had the DNI at the time who said, no, there's no urgent concern

00:36:43.460 here there's no valid basis for a complaint and instead you had atkinson and this whistleblower

00:36:48.480 the whistleblower at the time this blows my mind he went to democrats on shift staff and was working

00:36:55.220 with them before ever putting this whistleblower complaint together so is this is this vinman

00:36:59.980 do we do we know who the whistleblower was now everyone has said for years that they believe it

00:37:06.700 to be eric chiramella vinman we believe based on the transcript was not the so-called whistleblower

00:37:13.140 um it looks like he was one of the witnesses so-called witnesses i believe witness one

00:37:19.400 um but i'm not positive uh mentioned in the whistleblower complaint he was one of the people

00:37:25.060 who the so-called whistleblower relied on to put together his third hand hearsay uh uh testimony or

00:37:33.600 or or complaint does this inspector general still have his job no thank goodness he doesn't um he

00:37:42.720 he was an absolute disaster. And, you know, a lot of us wondered at the time, was this guy kind of

00:37:48.220 just an idiot who got buffeted by the winds and didn't really know how to control the process and

00:37:53.340 just ended up in a situation out of his control? Or was he someone who was actively working behind

00:38:00.000 the scenes to make this thing into a bigger deal than it should have been in order to take down

00:38:03.920 the president? And after reading through, there are two separate testimonies from September and

00:38:09.280 October of 2019. After reading through them, I am utterly convinced that he was an active

00:38:15.780 and willing participant and plotter in the coup and conspiracy to take down Trump in 2019.

00:38:24.660 What have we found out about Schiff? Anything?

00:38:28.800 No, there wasn't much about Schiff in there. We knew at the time that he had been or he and his

00:38:34.300 staff had been colluding with this so-called whistleblower before the complaint had ever

00:38:39.420 been filed. That was something that didn't come out until the impeachment thing was in full swing.

00:38:46.540 The person we've learned a lot about rather hilariously is not so much Schiff, who I think

00:38:53.140 everyone has known is just a dishonest dirtbag, but another key player at the time was one Eric

00:38:58.500 swalwell and i think we've learned a lot about all eric well he i mean do we learn anything other

00:39:07.280 than he's a dirtbag allegedly wait what we learned he's a real hands-on guy but apparently not on

00:39:14.220 the intel matters that we actually care about so um uh i saw oh what's his name um oh the famous

00:39:24.880 lawyer from Boston. Help me out, anybody on the show. Lawyer from Boston, Harvard.

00:39:33.120 Dershowitz. Professor Emeritus. Yeah, Dershowitz. Dershowitz said, thank you. Dershowitz said

00:39:38.660 yesterday that he thinks this whole thing could be expunged. And he said never before in history

00:39:43.900 could that have happened before. He said, but this is so rotten to the core,

00:39:48.680 it could be expunged. Which leads me to the question, is anything going to happen?

00:39:54.880 my you know i've i've become a little bit fatalist and cynical having watched all this

00:40:00.520 stuff you know i hear is something going to happen and my brain translates this to

00:40:04.840 is anyone going to go to prison you know that consent going to go to jail are people going

00:40:08.920 to go to prison for lying it's been almost seven years my gut tells me no and i know that can be

00:40:17.760 like really disheartening for people to hear i i it certainly is frustrating when you do all this

00:40:22.720 work and you see all this criminality and nobody goes to jail um and so people can tend to throw

00:40:28.480 up their hands and say well what's what's even the point what's what's the use and i would say

00:40:33.320 the truth is its own point the truth is its own end and its own purpose and you know a lot of us

00:40:40.560 can't control what happens to bad guys whether they go to prison whether they're brought to

00:40:44.440 justice but we do have a large ability to control what we consume what we hear and what we know

00:40:51.180 And so I would say maybe this is just a cope.

00:40:54.440 Knowing the truth is huge.

00:40:56.400 Knowing the truth is amazing.

00:40:57.840 And the reason we know this is because so many people tried so hard for so long to make sure we never learned the truth.

00:41:04.140 So I think we shouldn't allow ourselves to get lost in fatalism or cynicism about not having prison time.

00:41:12.180 We should be thankful that we know the truth.

00:41:14.160 That's always something to be pursuing and be thankful for.

00:41:17.540 And so I'm upset that we're probably never going to see people in prison over this.

00:41:21.960 But man, am I glad to know what actually happened finally.

00:41:25.740 Okay.

00:41:27.160 Can I push back on that?

00:41:28.840 Because I'm in a bad mood today.

00:41:31.120 I've been so black-pilled today.

00:41:32.660 And I've been trying really hard to not be black-pilled.

00:41:35.700 But today is just with everything that's going on.

00:41:37.720 Because nobody is, you know, like this Swalwell thing.

00:41:40.240 The story is not Swalwell.

00:41:42.060 I mean, you know, we had pretty good indications.

00:41:44.940 We didn't know, but we had pretty good indications.

00:41:47.540 50 people, 50 women now are saying that.

00:41:51.960 So the story is not Swalwell.

00:41:53.500 The story is the system that protected him, okay?

00:41:58.060 And nobody's going to investigate that.

00:42:00.240 I mean, the journalists are all patting themselves on the back going,

00:42:03.020 oh, look, and this is because of good journalism.

00:42:05.300 No, it's not.

00:42:06.040 Good journalism would have exposed this long time ago.

00:42:08.520 But you didn't do anything because he was useful to the mission.

00:42:14.460 And so the problem is the entire system.

00:42:18.960 So, you know, you have, we know the truth, but the press is not going to report on it.

00:42:24.600 So it's not going to be something that is really recorded.

00:42:28.800 History is only written by the winners.

00:42:31.560 And I'm not sure that we win long term here if Donald Trump, you know, becomes a lame duck soon.

00:42:37.940 um and the most important thing is if nobody goes to jail how do we prevent this from happening

00:42:44.180 again to other people yeah it's a it's a great question and you were so right about swalwell

00:42:50.840 what's insane is his crime was not being a dirtbag or harassing women or assaulting women

00:42:55.900 his rhyme his crime was threatening the political chances of a billionaire in california because

00:43:02.180 that's that was the only thing that got him under their cleag light yes like he threatened tom

00:43:07.020 styer and that was apparently a crime they will not uh abide by right exactly but to your question

00:43:14.340 so but to your question about the accountability yeah no go ahead no no go ahead you're on it

00:43:21.940 yeah it's it it i i i i'm very much with you i struggle with the black pilling every day

00:43:28.500 and the thing the only thing that i can do that makes me sane is understand number one i don't

00:43:35.400 have the power to control what a thousand other people in government do i don't get to pick the

00:43:39.500 da's i don't get to pick the grand juries the only thing i can control is the thing that i can do

00:43:45.060 every day and the thing that i do every day is find out what's true and and broadcast it as far

00:43:50.340 and wide as i can go because otherwise i think you'll go insane if you're constantly blackpilling

00:43:55.740 and being cynical and being mad that this didn't happen or that didn't happen oh i can't control

00:43:59.900 any of that so why why would i allow myself to get all wrapped up in something i can't control

00:44:04.720 great perspective you're streaming the best of glenn beck to hear more of this interview and

00:44:11.020 others download the full show podcasts wherever you get podcasts so you remember in the good old

00:44:17.400 days when we worried about wikipedia making edits and things like that or big tech censoring truth

00:44:24.260 let me show you how those cute little battles are still raging ones we're paying attention to

00:44:30.580 while a nuclear information war is raging and no one's talking about it is going right into the

00:44:38.500 bloodstream of artificial intelligence systems that are increasingly telling us what to think

00:44:44.840 what to believe and even what the truth looks like tomorrow over the past few years reddit

00:44:52.320 the so-called front page of the internet has quietly become one of the most powerful backdoors

00:44:57.860 in AI training data.

00:45:00.180 AI trains on something.

00:45:02.700 And a lot of these companies are training on Reddit.

00:45:06.620 They train on what gets upvoted.

00:45:09.920 If it's upvoted today,

00:45:13.740 and it just doesn't trend for a few hours now,

00:45:16.100 now it becomes the raw material

00:45:18.640 that ChatGPT, Perplexity, Google,

00:45:22.420 and the rest of these models ingest

00:45:24.780 and spit back out as authoritative answers.

00:45:27.360 The one source that I found that does not do this is Grok.

00:45:33.220 There was a study from SEMrush.

00:45:35.980 It looked at over 200,000 prompts across all the major AI systems, and it found that Reddit

00:45:42.180 links are showing up everywhere, often ranking higher than traditional news sites or even

00:45:48.380 Wikipedia, which you shouldn't trust.

00:45:51.500 Many of those cited posts had shockingly low engagement.

00:45:56.440 sometimes fewer than 20 upvotes.

00:46:00.700 You're going to understand why this is so powerful and dangerous here in a second.

00:46:04.980 Reddit has bragged in its latest shareholder letter

00:46:08.600 that it's now the number one most cited domain across all AI models.

00:46:14.160 So all of these models are training how to think on Reddit.

00:46:19.180 That should terrify you.

00:46:21.300 Because here's the reality.

00:46:22.960 even small coordinated groups can now launder their propaganda through reddit and their upvote

00:46:30.180 system and it gets baked straight into ai that millions of people all over the world are using

00:46:36.940 every single day for truth to help find the truth and it's not just influencing what your neighbor

00:46:42.540 sees on their feed this is shaping what the machines tell the next generation is consensus

00:46:49.440 Again, full credit where credit is due. Great investigation. You should read the whole thing

00:46:56.040 by the team at Pirate Wires. The reporting and the research laid out in this are laid out in

00:47:02.840 great detail. They have been doing all of the hard work documenting how these manipulation

00:47:08.700 campaigns actually operate in the wild. And they have exposed two major examples in just the last

00:47:15.780 year. First, large-scale propaganda network tied to U.S.-designated terror organizations.

00:47:23.560 So Hamas and Hezbollah, the Houthis, are deeply embedded in Reddit. At the center was

00:47:32.200 rPalestine. It's got 300,000 members, and they are coordinating through Discord servers.

00:47:38.900 They are not just posting these things in little niche political corners.

00:47:44.980 They are infiltrating massive, high-engagement subreddits, like reddits about documentaries or lifestyle, any of these things.

00:47:57.760 And they are laundered, translated battlefield messages from Hamas's own Al-Aqsa brigade that were celebrating the attacks on the Zionist enemy.

00:48:16.360 They are pushing Houthi propaganda as if it were neutral reporting.

00:48:20.800 So what happens is, they will take something, literally, propaganda from the terrorist organizations, they will repackage it, and they will put it out onto Reddit.

00:48:34.420 And if it gets some upvotes, it goes right into the system of AI.

00:48:39.580 Reddit's own internal review tried to downplay all of this, claiming it found four pieces of problematic content.

00:48:47.400 but reporters went back and found dozens that still live on the site and then there's the

00:48:54.600 coordinated campaign targeting elon musk and x.com this one is a great example of how this works

00:49:01.160 suddenly across dozens of major sports subreddits liverpool football club the nfl teams nba

00:49:10.700 Major League Baseball, nearly identical posts

00:49:14.100 appearing calling for bans on all links to X.

00:49:19.180 These posts didn't trend.

00:49:21.200 In some communities, they became the most upvoted post

00:49:25.500 in the subreddit's entire history,

00:49:28.520 crushing even celebrations of actual championship wins.

00:49:33.320 It spreads like wildfire into city, state,

00:49:37.060 and international subs.

00:49:40.700 and it goes right into the bloodstream of AI.

00:49:45.300 When you read this article, I urge you to read this article.

00:49:47.540 When you read this whole article, you will see things that are being posted,

00:49:50.880 and you're like, oh, dear God.

00:49:54.100 No smoking gun, but the pattern is unmistakable.

00:49:57.200 Dorman accounts, suddenly posting, then blocking anyone who asks any question.

00:50:02.640 The media eats it up.

00:50:04.160 They run it as headline for days.

00:50:06.500 So why does this matter?

00:50:08.060 because yesterday i told you you have to pay attention to what is being you know the social

00:50:15.160 media um uh producers you have to look at you know how much have they how long have they been

00:50:23.940 on is this a real person is this a foreign country etc etc but unlike the social media mob on facebook

00:50:31.060 or x reddit content doesn't stop at human eyes it becomes training data if there is an upvoted post

00:50:41.660 whether organically or through the brigades here it gets read by ai and immediately marked as high

00:50:50.460 quality human consensus this is such a brilliant plan so a small group of terrorists terror linked

00:50:59.680 operatives can manufacture what looks like broad agreement get it upvoted just by a few people and

00:51:07.740 suddenly chat gpt is repeating their narrative when someone asks a simple question like what's

00:51:12.880 happening in gaza or can i trust information on x no this is how propaganda gets laundered

00:51:22.520 into truth the edit wars at wikipedia oh my gosh that's nothing the brigading on reddit

00:51:32.180 all of this stuff disappears behind a curtain and all we see is the calm confident ai face

00:51:39.280 telling us what to believe this is just one study and one radical terror linked network

00:51:46.580 imagine how many people are doing exactly the same thing on every side of every issue it doesn't have

00:51:53.240 to be just China Iran you know political it's corporate it's foreign governments it's everything

00:52:02.340 it's everything on what it means to be a man what it means to be a woman all of the things you think

00:52:11.740 I mean, we are so busy taking care of life that we don't pay attention

00:52:16.360 how many people and how much money is out there doing this kind of stuff.

00:52:23.240 Reddit's structure makes it uniquely vulnerable.

00:52:27.700 Volunteer moderators with near total power in their little fiefdoms,

00:52:31.920 no accountability, operating anonymously, feeding directly into the AI pipeline

00:52:38.240 that is becoming the default source of information

00:52:41.880 for the entire world.

00:52:44.120 This is why online propaganda is so insidious right now.

00:52:48.840 This is not about clicks or rage bait.

00:52:51.360 This is about a long-term narrative control

00:52:54.780 at the source code level of artificial intelligence.

00:53:02.720 Be very careful.

00:53:05.060 Be very careful.

00:53:06.280 We are entering a very new and scary world.

00:53:11.500 Here is the warning to you and even to me.

00:53:15.880 Every time a tweet, a post, a headline, even a podcast, yes, including my podcast,

00:53:24.120 if it makes your blood boil, stop, take a breath, check the sources.

00:53:32.300 Is it important that your blood is boiling?

00:53:35.220 That's why I started the show today. My blood was boiling. I was so mad. And I said, I shouldn't be on the air today. I shouldn't be. Because I'm really mad, and that's not helpful.

00:53:46.960 Then you have to ask yourself, where did this actually originate? Where is that person that I'm listening to, where are they getting this from?

00:53:55.340 Who benefits from me being angry and joining into this anger?

00:54:02.100 Because some people are doing this intentionally.

00:54:05.200 They know exactly how emotional triggers work and how to hijack our attention and our algorithms.

00:54:11.460 Because they want to be famous, they want to be rich, or they have an agenda.

00:54:15.320 But there's a lot of us that get it wrong as well, unintentionally.

00:54:19.580 I know I have done things unintentionally thinking I was doing the right thing, but then later look

00:54:27.140 back on it and go, wow, that was wrong. That was distorted. That was incomplete. It was just wrong.

00:54:32.920 Whatever it was. Here's what I want you to remember. Don't trust algorithms. Don't trust AI.

00:54:44.160 I don't trust it.

00:54:47.120 Don't look at this as the ultimate source.

00:54:49.840 And if you get angry, any righteous anger can wait the day.

00:54:56.500 It can wait.

00:54:57.600 It can wait until you've verified it.

00:55:00.720 Because right now, when we react instantly, when we share without thinking,

00:55:05.800 when we amplify without checking, we are playing directly into the hands of our enemies.

00:55:11.460 And I mean some of the worst enemies.

00:55:13.160 terror organizations. We are unwittingly becoming vectors for propaganda from people who actively

00:55:20.620 want to destroy our way of life, our culture, our freedoms. And it will work if we're not

00:55:28.020 careful and pay attention. Because the machines are learning from us in real time.

00:55:37.440 So when I say don't play into the division, I don't mean just for your neighbor. I mean

00:55:42.920 are you wise enough to guard

00:55:44.800 what we are feeding the machine?

00:55:48.700 Stay vigilant.

00:55:51.660 Question everything with boldness.

00:55:55.100 Verify it first.

00:55:57.580 Then rage second,

00:55:59.420 if you rage at all.

00:56:02.900 But it's best to keep the rage offline.

00:56:08.920 Spring break isn't what it used to be.

00:56:11.500 It's better.

00:56:12.140 This spring, stay three nights and get a $50 Best Western gift card.

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The Glenn Beck Program - April 14, 2026

Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Rep. Tim Burchett & Sean Davis ｜ 4⧸14⧸26

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