The Glenn Beck Program - Best of The Program ｜ Guests： Ret. Lt. Gen. Jerry Boykin & Christopher Rufo ｜ 5⧸13⧸21

00:00:00.000 Today is a riveting, riveting show, start to finish.

00:00:03.980 Hour number one, we had General Jerry Boykin on with us.

00:00:07.160 He is the guy who was the original Delta Force.

00:00:10.520 He commanded the Green Berets.

00:00:13.020 He ended up being the general over all of special forces.

00:00:18.840 And then went into the Bush White House,

00:00:22.920 was Deputy, I think, Assistant Director of National Intelligence.

00:00:28.120 He's a pretty controversial guy because he speaks common sense.

00:00:33.360 He's one of the guys who signed the letter from all of the generals and admirals of the past

00:00:39.560 that said, we're in trouble constitutionally, and Americans need to stand up right now.

00:00:44.980 I asked him what that was all about and why he did that.

00:00:48.400 I also talked to him about, you know, white supremacy being the biggest problem in America.

00:00:55.260 It's an interview you don't want to miss.

00:00:57.180 The second hour of the broadcast was all about the economy.

00:01:00.300 I tried to break inflation down and what's called forbearance.

00:01:04.940 I tried to break it down so you understand it,

00:01:07.600 because what's coming our way will change our country forever.

00:01:11.940 And in hour number three, those who are fighting back.

00:01:15.760 And is it working?

00:01:17.540 How do I connect?

00:01:19.000 What are they doing that is working?

00:01:21.280 All on today's podcast.

00:01:22.580 This man was one of the original members of the U.S. Army's Delta Force.

00:01:41.280 He was privileged to ultimately command these elite warriors in combat operations.

00:01:47.240 Later, he commanded all the Army's Green Berets, as well as the Special Warfare Center and School.

00:01:55.460 He spent 36 years in the Army.

00:01:59.260 His last four years as the Deputy Undersecretary of Defense for Intelligence.

00:02:03.100 He's an ordained minister.

00:02:07.140 And he is the head now of the Family Research Council.

00:02:12.220 He is the Executive Vice President.

00:02:14.400 His name is Lieutenant General William Boykin.

00:02:19.680 General, how are you, sir?

00:02:21.560 Hey, Glenn.

00:02:22.360 I'm doing well.

00:02:23.160 How are you?

00:02:23.720 I'm good.

00:02:24.360 It's good to hear your voice.

00:02:25.920 Good to be with you.

00:02:26.700 I want to start with the letter that was released the other day from the Flag Officers for America.

00:02:33.920 Can you go into that, and especially for people who haven't heard it, go into the warnings and why you and others felt it was important to make these warnings?

00:02:45.180 Well, Glenn, we all took an oath to the Constitution of the United States, and we had no expiration date on that oath that we took.

00:02:57.400 Even though we took off the uniform, we all feel that it is still our responsibility to support and defend that Constitution against all enemies, foreign and domestic.

00:03:07.980 And so we felt that we had to do something.

00:03:12.740 This is a first step.

00:03:14.160 We don't know what the next step is going to be precisely, but we are in this for the long haul.

00:03:21.180 And as we wrote this letter, we tried to outline for not only the President himself, but for America, the things that we see that are jeopardizing in an existential way the future of our nation.

00:03:36.780 And it will, in fact, ultimately wind up in us not being a constitutional republic.

00:03:47.740 Now, we started out with voter integrity, and we made no claims directly that the president was illegitimate.

00:03:54.980 But what we did do is we did point out that both the court and the Congress just completely ignored the charges that were brought up in terms of the voter integrity.

00:04:09.980 And we clearly know that there were things within this election, like dead people voting and illegal people voting and people voting without identification and state legislatures changing their laws without going through the proper process.

00:04:27.060 So we point that out in here.

00:04:57.040 But we have to have faith in our election.

00:05:00.500 We have to either prove or disprove it.

00:05:04.280 That is exactly where I stand personally, and I think this group as a whole, and that's basically what we say in the letter here.

00:05:13.000 There was voter fraud, no question about it.

00:05:15.960 Now, there's voter fraud in every election.

00:05:18.440 This year, though, if you look at the evidence that is verified evidence, there was a lot more voter fraud this time than we are aware of in previous elections.

00:05:31.140 And, you know, we just had a court ruling up in Michigan that the secretary of state up there violated the law in the voting process.

00:05:40.640 So whether there was enough fraud that it would have made a difference or not, we're not addressing that in this letter.

00:05:48.820 And I personally don't know the answer to that, just as you said.

00:05:53.700 But we know that there was some voter fraud.

00:05:56.780 There was irregularities there.

00:05:58.360 And what we were saying in this letter is that we have to have a system that people can have confidence in,

00:06:04.380 that everyone is allowed to cast a vote, and that vote will be counted,

00:06:11.180 and the will of the people will be served as a result of that election.

00:06:15.760 And we have to do that in order to maintain this constitutional republic.

00:06:21.200 And then we go on to talk to them about the way that our constitutional rights in many areas are being eroded right now.

00:06:32.240 Before we get into that, let me ask you, I really thought it was horrible when, you know,

00:06:41.100 former prosecutors and, you know, at another time, you know, former generals and everything else came out against Donald Trump.

00:06:49.260 And when they did that, it was purely political, it felt to me.

00:06:55.420 And I could see if I were for Joe Biden, I might look at this letter and say,

00:07:05.360 you only are playing politics, you're only saying this because it's Joe Biden.

00:07:13.220 Well, Joe Biden happens to be the president right now.

00:07:17.620 But what we are seeing is we are moving to becoming a Marxist nation and seeing the erosion of our liberties.

00:07:26.460 It doesn't matter who the president is or the vice president.

00:07:30.000 What matters to us is what we're seeing happen to our country.

00:07:34.700 And you cannot deny anymore, no longer can you deny that we are becoming a Marxist nation.

00:07:40.680 And that is something that obviously you and I both have taken a lot of flack for over the last four years as being, you know,

00:07:51.460 we've been called racist, superior, supremacist, supremacist, supremacist, yeah.

00:07:57.100 And we've been called conspiracy theorists and all kinds of things.

00:08:02.100 The reality is today we have openly Marxist organizations in the streets of America that no one is doing anything about.

00:08:11.900 But more importantly, we have them in our Congress.

00:08:14.780 We have sectors of our society that are being represented by Marxists, Marxists, hardcore Marxists.

00:08:23.300 And just start, they call themselves democratic socialists.

00:08:28.360 Well, go back and study a little bit on what Marxism really is.

00:08:33.000 And there is no such thing as a democratic socialist to begin with.

00:08:38.620 That's a term that has been coined here.

00:08:41.260 But Glenn, we're seeing a Marxist movement here that goes all the way back to 1958 when the Communist Party USA wrote The Naked Communists

00:08:53.220 and told us exactly how they were going to take over America.

00:08:57.920 And a lot of what we address in this letter is exactly what was written in that book in 1958.

00:09:06.820 And we see it unfolding now at a very rapid rate, and we address it in here.

00:09:13.140 So if you're in the military now, you're, you know, the current General Boykin,

00:09:20.400 and you're seeing what is happening to the country, and you're seeing what's happening to the Pentagon.

00:09:26.880 I mean, it is, it's phenomenal.

00:09:29.700 When you have people now in solitary confinement, I think a violation of the Eighth Amendment for an extended period of time, at least,

00:09:40.860 in solitary confinement, and ramp up of the, I think, the lie that white supremacist is the greatest threat to our republic,

00:09:52.500 you're being sent a message, and the military is being looked at, and you, you know, they're looking for enemies within.

00:10:01.820 If you are, you know, a flag officer now, Jerry, what would you be thinking?

00:10:08.600 You know, if I was a flag officer now, I think I would be probably ready to walk into whoever I reported to,

00:10:18.240 lay my stars on the table and say, I can no longer, with good conscience, be part of this, because of the oath that I took in 1970.

00:10:28.440 And our military today is being used as an experimental test bed.

00:10:35.880 You know, you can't change American society in a substantial way unless you change the military.

00:10:40.940 And I don't know, Glenn, if you've seen the latest recruiting video.

00:10:44.400 I have.

00:10:45.040 The cartoon?

00:10:46.580 Yeah.

00:10:47.180 Yeah.

00:10:47.440 I mean, it is so disturbing, especially when you think, what are our adversaries doing?

00:10:54.640 What kind of people are they recruiting?

00:10:57.380 And how are they pitching the opportunities associated with serving in the military?

00:11:03.280 And what they're doing is they're appealing to not only their patriotism,

00:11:07.560 but their willingness to go out and put their lives on the line for the country that they love,

00:11:16.320 the country they live in.

00:11:17.580 And, but if, you know, here's what people don't understand if they haven't served.

00:11:22.960 You can give a soldier all the technology in the world, you can give them everything that is available.

00:11:31.340 But there's nothing more important on that battlefield than the cohesion and the morale of those men and women that are out there fighting.

00:11:42.900 That cohesion.

00:11:43.900 And I've written people up for the Medal of Honor and seen them in the White House get the Medal of Honor because they sacrificed their lives for the other members of their team. 0.98

00:11:57.380 Look, you don't get that by sitting people down in a classroom and saying, all of you guys over here that are white, you are oppressors. 0.99

00:12:08.080 All of you guys over here that are black, you are the oppressed. 1.00

00:12:12.680 And they're the ones that have done that to you. 0.89

00:12:14.820 How do you build, how do you build cohesion?

00:12:18.260 How do you build a strong team?

00:12:19.760 You don't.

00:12:20.580 That's kind of nonsense.

00:12:21.540 And I think that is exactly the intent.

00:12:23.920 I mean, the intent of Marxism is to divide and conquer.

00:12:28.240 And the military was the one place that still people had faith in and was, you know, cohesive.

00:12:36.760 And it is being torn apart from the inside.

00:12:39.880 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:12:53.320 So I am trying to eat healthier, and I am.

00:12:56.500 But the thing is, I don't like healthy food.

00:12:59.780 I don't like any of it.

00:13:01.220 You've heard of a fat suit, right?

00:13:02.760 I mean, there's got to be.

00:13:03.920 When are we getting a skinny suit?

00:13:05.360 Something that will make me look skinny because I just want treats all the time. 0.77

00:13:09.880 I grew up in a bakery for the love of Pete.

00:13:11.980 The bad news is no skinny suit is coming.

00:13:14.400 You actually have to do the work, blah, blah, blah.

00:13:16.480 That's why I am eating Bilt Bars.

00:13:18.680 It satisfies my sweet tooth, but it's a protein bar, but not like, you know, that's like eating

00:13:23.800 stuff at the bottom of my chalkboard, usually.

00:13:26.760 This is 100% real chocolate.

00:13:28.940 It's low carb, low sugar.

00:13:30.860 If I'm eating a protein bar as a treat, come on, you've got to know it's good.

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00:13:40.480 Go to BiltBar.com and use the promo code BEC15 for 15% off your order.

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00:13:53.640 Well, I'll tell you what, Glenn.

00:13:54.860 I just, I'm very disappointed in you for you just holding out on the people.

00:14:01.320 You're just like, you get them all excited with that forbearance talk, and then you're

00:14:04.820 like, oh, we're going to bring that to you tomorrow.

00:14:06.440 Bro, I mean, people are on the edge of their seat.

00:14:09.420 I'll tell you what forbearance is.

00:14:10.900 Look, people are on the edge of their seat.

00:14:12.240 They want to know about forbearance. 1.00

00:14:14.920 So shut up. 1.00

00:14:15.940 Shut up. 1.00

00:14:16.480 I just talked about the interest rate and why the Fed is lying to you, and they say, we 0.99

00:14:22.520 just don't think it's time to raise interest rates.

00:14:24.380 They're never going to raise interest rates.

00:14:25.920 They can't raise interest rates.

00:14:27.660 Not to those levels.

00:14:28.480 I mean, they'll probably raise them, right?

00:14:29.880 I mean, they're just not going to raise them to 18%.

00:14:32.480 Which is the only way to stop inflation, right?

00:14:35.120 I mean, this kind of inflation that is coming.

00:14:38.440 But the other shoe to drop is the forbearance shoe.

00:14:42.920 And I know it sounds super sexy, but actually it is.

00:14:46.800 It's really important.

00:14:47.820 And once you get past the fancy terms, you realize, holy cow, what?

00:14:55.680 Let me explain this in a way Stu will understand.

00:14:58.380 You know when, you know, you're all hot and bothered and your wife says, not now.

00:15:06.740 Yes, I do know that.

00:15:08.020 Okay, good.

00:15:08.660 That's forbearance.

00:15:09.760 Okay.

00:15:11.200 All right.

00:15:11.980 She's just saying, not now.

00:15:13.860 But that, you know, does that mean not ever?

00:15:16.780 I never have to pay?

00:15:17.800 No, no.

00:15:18.780 Okay.

00:15:19.100 So forbearance, forbearance is the idea that you don't have to pay things right now.

00:15:28.680 And that's when the first COVID bill came in and said, you don't have to pay this.

00:15:36.860 It was the first CARES Act.

00:15:39.060 It passed overwhelmingly with Congress.

00:15:41.280 It was, you know, signed into law by Donald Trump, and it allowed the federal agencies

00:15:45.500 to extend forbearance to homeowners.

00:15:49.220 Now, when you heard if you were impacted by COVID-19 and the Federal Reserve Bank and the

00:15:58.060 government lending programs and Uncle Sam said, you don't have to worry about that.

00:16:02.820 Nobody's going to be evicted.

00:16:04.240 What did you think that meant?

00:16:06.620 I mean, it seemed like it was a temporary thing, I guess.

00:16:15.780 Right.

00:16:16.080 Like you'd...

00:16:16.940 So you had extra money that month, right?

00:16:18.680 You have extra money, so you can...

00:16:20.140 You can...

00:16:20.940 I mean, you can't be thrown out of the streets.

00:16:22.200 There's a pandemic going on.

00:16:23.280 Correct.

00:16:23.600 Correct.

00:16:24.040 So...

00:16:24.520 What happens to the money that you didn't pay for 12 to 18 months?

00:16:28.880 What happens to it?

00:16:32.880 I mean, you...

00:16:33.640 Yeah.

00:16:34.040 Is it just called off?

00:16:36.640 Remember the definition of forbearance, Stu and Lisa?

00:16:40.560 Just not right now.

00:16:41.760 Not now.

00:16:43.080 So you have to come back and pay all that back rent?

00:16:45.220 You have to pay.

00:16:45.980 Now, listen, if you...

00:16:46.920 Is that true?

00:16:47.440 Jeez.

00:16:47.880 Yes, that's true.

00:16:49.540 Then just no one's going to be able to do that.

00:16:51.540 Yeah.

00:16:52.320 Yeah.

00:16:52.640 Well, Bank of America estimated that through March of 2022, 22% of its loan portfolio had

00:16:59.820 gone through some form of loan modification or forbearance.

00:17:03.420 So 22% of Bank of America, that number is a lot, lot higher.

00:17:10.480 Here's the thing.

00:17:12.060 The federal court just said government didn't have a right to do that.

00:17:15.740 You can't do that.

00:17:16.640 So now they've called off forbearance.

00:17:18.720 Okay?

00:17:18.940 I want you to understand what all of this means.

00:17:23.120 In the original CARES Act, the government, via funding lending programs through the government,

00:17:31.960 the Federal Reserve Bank, took on 70% of all U.S. mortgages, including nearly 90% of new

00:17:43.540 mortgages to low-income areas of the country since 2009.

00:17:47.200 So 70% of the mortgages are experiencing some sort of forbearance, depending on the type

00:17:55.740 of lending program you use to fund the mortgages.

00:17:59.120 And the United States government is now on the hook for it.

00:18:04.440 So if you can't pay your debt, that's going to be a problem.

00:18:10.660 I mean, if you really look at this and you look at the worst case scenario, this is how

00:18:14.260 you don't own anything and you'll like it because the government will now own your house.

00:18:20.200 The Federal Reserve will now own your house.

00:18:22.680 The bank will now own your house.

00:18:24.980 Let me explain.

00:18:27.280 Forbearance, in short, you're eligible to stop making monthly payments during the forbearance

00:18:33.320 period.

00:18:34.220 In the case of the government's back mortgages during COVID, that meant you could miss 18 to

00:18:39.500 24 months worth of mortgage payments.

00:18:42.680 But what you have to understand is, and this seems like not so bad, every payment missed

00:18:49.100 is added to the end of the loan.

00:18:51.300 So if you miss 12 payments, a 30-year mortgage becomes a 31-year mortgage.

00:18:56.540 But you're also having to pay the interest.

00:18:59.040 So a 31-year mortgage, because of the interest, is probably going to be a 32-year mortgage.

00:19:05.560 Forbearance sounds still okay, right?

00:19:10.280 Not so much.

00:19:12.000 Not so much.

00:19:13.520 Forbearance isn't a free pass to live anywhere you want without mortgage or without consequence.

00:19:19.700 Here is the consequence.

00:19:21.500 And it's not the 31 or 32-year mortgage.

00:19:24.080 If you try to sell your home, any missed payment during the forbearance period has to be made

00:19:35.440 whole before the title will be released.

00:19:39.160 So if you missed 18 payments of $1,800 each, you'll have to come up with $32,000 in cash

00:19:48.760 to pay the forbearance to be able to sell your home.

00:19:56.760 Because you owe that.

00:19:58.420 Oh, here's the other thing.

00:20:02.360 Because you're in arrears, it doesn't say on anybody's credit application, oh, it's forbearance.

00:20:09.680 It says you are delinquent with 18 months of loans.

00:20:14.160 Do you know what that's going to do to the average credit score?

00:20:22.700 Banks are already going to be hesitant to lend anybody loans in the future because of this

00:20:29.420 crunch that is coming.

00:20:30.900 You have to have great credit.

00:20:33.380 If you've been participating in forbearance, you are going to have delinquencies on your

00:20:40.760 credit score, which will cost your credit card.

00:20:43.000 It will go up in interest.

00:20:45.160 And if you can get a loan, you're going to be paying a higher interest rate because you've

00:20:50.380 been delinquent.

00:20:51.520 Even if you sell your house and pay it off right now, it will still be marked delinquent.

00:20:58.200 So it's a good thing I'm renting, right?

00:21:01.640 Oh, yeah, not so much.

00:21:05.580 Here's the mistake that millions of renters made millions of times over.

00:21:12.960 You're not forced to pay rent and landlords aren't allowed to charge late fees.

00:21:17.700 Rent continues to accrue during the months you missed.

00:21:20.580 Okay, no big deal.

00:21:23.460 I'm going to live the high life.

00:21:25.660 Well, now that the federal court has ruled the CDC has no power to issue any kind of

00:21:32.040 eviction moratoriums.

00:21:36.660 Renters are due for a rude awakening. 0.98

00:21:38.880 If you started missing rental payments in, say, June of last year, as the moratorium is lifted,

00:21:46.960 millions of renters may find out that they have to start making payments again.

00:21:51.960 But they also have to make up for the money they missed.

00:21:58.400 When the dust settles for COVID-19, renters who end up evicted will find their long-term

00:22:04.820 credit negatively impact.

00:22:07.640 They won't be able to fill out in a financial form for the next apartment they're trying to

00:22:15.420 rent because they owe all of this money and they didn't pay their last bills on time.

00:22:22.400 All during COVID.

00:22:25.500 Now, you're going to take, it's going to take a very understanding apartment complex

00:22:30.120 or a very understanding bank, and they have such a heart, to say, oh, it was COVID, not a big deal.

00:22:40.500 As America begins to reopen, as vaccines are administered, as America's shuttered businesses

00:22:48.960 get permission to have patrons again, let's take stock and remember that once the virus is gone,

00:22:57.120 the impact, the pandemic, the economic, the social, spiritual impact that this has remains.

00:23:05.740 Just unpacking the U.S. mortgage and rental industries could take years and still cost homeowners,

00:23:14.920 renters, landlords billions in cost.

00:23:17.840 Both those you hear about on CNN, but also the cost of higher interest rates due to lower credit scores,

00:23:27.000 having to choose to live in a less safe neighborhood with a longer commute because your rental history

00:23:33.200 shows eviction.

00:23:34.300 There are consequences to everything the government does.

00:23:40.260 When they say free money, it's never free.

00:23:44.900 As millions of Americans will begin to understand, as America opens back up for business.

00:23:53.100 I have some good news that I'm going to have Christopher Ruffo.

00:24:13.060 He's a contributing editor of the City Journal and senior fellow at the Manhattan Institute.

00:24:17.780 The guy is a machine.

00:24:19.860 He is really the guy who first really started to expose critical race theory being taught everywhere.

00:24:28.800 I think it started in Seattle, I think, is the first time I saw it.

00:24:33.140 And then has been chasing it and has some, I think, some things that are coming that are very exciting.

00:24:40.500 People are starting to stand up.

00:24:42.480 And, in fact, there's one major corporation that just kind of pulled back a little bit, which was a little surprising.

00:24:48.900 Christopher Ruffo is with us now.

00:24:50.300 Hi, Christopher.

00:24:51.220 How are you?

00:24:52.280 I'm very well.

00:24:53.040 Good to be with you.

00:24:53.800 Thank you.

00:24:54.500 So let's start with Disney this week.

00:24:58.100 We found out through you that they were putting everybody through this critical race training, and it was pretty horrifying.

00:25:08.960 Yeah, it was.

00:25:10.280 It was really shocking.

00:25:11.240 I had multiple sources within Disney leak me these documents as whistleblowers, and Disney was saying that America was founded on systemic racism.

00:25:20.880 It was telling employees that they had to listen to their black colleagues and not question their lived experience.

00:25:26.980 It was also recommending resources where employees could take a white privilege checklist to see exactly how much white privilege they have.

00:25:34.980 And it only got worse from there as things delved into politics.

00:25:37.640 They linked employees to a resource that said that they should defund the police, decolonize their bookshelves, and join a local, quote, white space, whatever that might be.

00:25:48.640 So Disney really issued a statement to your release of their documents and said these internal documents are being deliberately distorted as reflective of company policy when, in fact, their purpose was to allow diversity of thought and discussion on incredibly complex and challenging issues of race.

00:26:05.480 I know it's hard to keep a straight face even reading this.

00:26:07.800 But the Disney brand has a long release from the Soviet Union.

00:26:12.080 I mean, it really is.

00:26:12.940 I mean, it's just breathtaking. 0.99

00:26:14.440 And it's just a pathetic attempt to deflect.

00:26:17.220 But the fact is, is that they confirmed that the documents were authentic.

00:26:22.700 I posted the entire documents in full.

00:26:25.540 So it can't be distorted.

00:26:27.540 And then the real switch was the real funny thing is they said, well, you know, we love inclusivity.

00:26:33.420 We've directed films like Vaughn and Black Panther.

00:26:36.100 I mean, it really is that I have black friends defense.

00:26:38.820 It's like, no, we're not racist.

00:26:40.220 We have we made Black Panther is one of our best films.

00:26:42.780 I mean, you could see the corporate PR office just imploding in on itself.

00:26:48.560 It was pretty beautiful sight.

00:26:49.840 Yeah.

00:26:50.000 I'll say, Chris, though, they accuse you of intentionally misrepresenting these documents.

00:26:54.840 I mean, you did post them all, but they said you intentionally were misleading people.

00:27:00.000 Yeah.

00:27:00.500 I mean, you know, that seems to be the go to move when you get caught with your pants down.

00:27:05.380 You have to point your finger at the person who's there.

00:27:08.160 So, you know, they claim that I distorted them.

00:27:10.640 You know, that's categorically false.

00:27:13.960 I posted the entire set of documents.

00:27:16.780 I did direct quotes.

00:27:18.400 I posted contextual screenshots.

00:27:20.120 And then the real tell, the real proof and vindication for our reporting is that within 24 hours of making this press release,

00:27:28.480 Disney deleted the entire diversity and inclusion program from their internal website.

00:27:33.880 So if they were so proud of these documents, if they felt like they wanted to stand by them, they wouldn't have deleted them.

00:27:41.320 And I think that's the ultimate vindication of my reporting.

00:27:43.860 Well, pardon their pixie dust.

00:27:46.240 Let me let me ask you, do you think this is I don't know if you saw that report from was it Oklahoma?

00:27:54.180 One of the teachers that was very upset at Chris critical race theory being banned.

00:28:00.040 And she said, I'm going to teach it anyway.

00:28:01.480 I don't really care.

00:28:02.860 I'll find my own way to do it.

00:28:04.700 Is it do you think that's what's happening?

00:28:06.800 Or do you think they actually got enough pushback on this to go, wait, we shouldn't maybe go there?

00:28:13.500 Yeah, it's hard to tell.

00:28:15.400 Time time will show us exactly where.

00:28:17.300 But it's possible that it will come back.

00:28:19.640 But I can I can say with a high degree of confidence that it's not going to come back in the same form.

00:28:24.320 And what I think the dynamics that I'm hoping to create can do is that when we expose these programs,

00:28:31.580 which are not diversity training programs, they're political indoctrination programs,

00:28:36.060 we raise the cost on these major companies.

00:28:39.220 And and if they are getting pushback, if they're getting blowback, if they're getting heat for these things,

00:28:45.200 it gives corporate executives who in many cases probably don't even want to do this stuff.

00:28:50.200 It gives them an easy out to cancel them, to reduce them, to limit them, to restrict them.

00:28:55.240 And that's really the name of the game.

00:28:56.700 We need to shift the incentives.

00:28:58.240 So corporations now pay a price for promoting these programs.

00:29:01.840 And and then it gives the reasonable and rational executives who want to just focus on business.

00:29:07.980 It gives them an exit ramp that they can say, well, you know, this totally blew up.

00:29:13.020 We need to we need to totally rethink this program.

00:29:15.340 We've seen it with Coca-Cola.

00:29:16.740 We've seen it with Disney.

00:29:17.960 We've seen it with Coinbase.

00:29:19.660 We've seen it with Shopify.

00:29:20.720 A lot of companies are now starting to reverse course on some of these most destructive programs.

00:29:26.540 But I do wonder if it's a smokescreen.

00:29:29.820 I mean, you know, Common Core came back to many states just under a different name.

00:29:35.260 You know, we have to be vigilant because they're shapeshifters. 1.00

00:29:38.760 They really are shapeshifters. 0.94

00:29:41.200 What are you seeing in in the future?

00:29:45.920 What are you seeing?

00:29:47.360 I mean, I'm just going to come right out straight and ask you.

00:29:50.700 I have heard that there are some things on the horizon that people are mobilizing with and there is dramatic pushback coming.

00:30:01.200 Is that you care to comment on any of that?

00:30:04.500 Yeah, I think that's absolutely right.

00:30:06.260 I without revealing too many details, I'm planning on continuing this series on woke capital.

00:30:12.560 I have a number of major Fortune 100 companies in my crosshairs.

00:30:16.160 That reporting will be coming out over the next few months.

00:30:18.380 And then also, you know, Republican congressional leaders, leaders in the Senate, leaders in the state legislatures, and then also state attorneys general are all starting to really mobilize on this issue.

00:30:31.580 They realize that 70 to 80 percent of the American public rejects critical race theory in the classroom, rejects critical race theory in the workplace.

00:30:40.080 So this is a very much a winning issue.

00:30:43.160 And I'm starting to see all of the pieces come together to build this great this great machine to start fighting back.

00:30:51.820 So have you seen because the polls show that it's really only the uber liberal white Democrats that are for this a lot?

00:31:02.040 Most Democrats aren't even for this.

00:31:05.120 Are you seeing them stand up or is it just kind of I'm not for it, but I'm not going to say anything?

00:31:12.200 Oh, I've sensed a complete shift in momentum, especially within elite institutions, corporations, private schools, public schools, agencies.

00:31:22.820 What's happening is that the more that people stand up against this, it reduces the cost for others to stand up against it.

00:31:32.080 So we have very courageous parents in Loudoun County, Virginia, Fairfax, Virginia, Cupertino, California, Springfield, Missouri, Buffalo, New York is starting to happen where parents and families are starting to push back.

00:31:44.940 And then they're giving they're they're clearing out the way so people don't have to be scared.

00:31:50.340 And I think that's really the ultimate problem that we're facing that we need to solve is that people are terrified of speaking out against this stuff, even if they don't believe in it.

00:32:00.000 And, you know, as you said, the evidence is in most Americans don't believe in this.

00:32:04.700 Most Democrats don't believe in this.

00:32:06.300 And most racial minorities don't believe in this.

00:32:08.560 So we have to take the initiative to break through that wall of fear that people have of speaking out.

00:32:16.560 And once we do that, we can go on pure offense.

00:32:20.180 Christopher, thank you so much for all the work you do.

00:32:21.800 I appreciate it.

00:32:22.360 Thanks for being on the program.

00:32:23.980 Thank you.

00:32:24.640 You bet.

The Glenn Beck Program - May 13, 2021

Best of The Program ｜ Guests： Ret. Lt. Gen. Jerry Boykin & Christopher Rufo ｜ 5⧸13⧸21

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