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Glenn Breckenridge is in the middle east of the Middle East doing a live show from an undisclosed location. He talks about the situation in the Middle east, what's going on, and what we can do to help.
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welcome to the podcast today uh we have a kind of an interesting one for you
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involving uh our own glenn beck who has who left the show a little early yesterday
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which was kind of nice because it gave me a chance to just rant endlessly about andrew cuomo
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and his last day in office however he left for a reason glenn let well andrew cuomo definitely
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left for a reason but glenn also left for a reason yesterday because he was getting on a
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plane and flying to the middle east he is in the middle east in an undisclosed location doing the
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show from there today he has kind of a behind the scenes of how everything is going and where our
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efforts might lead next if you want to help with this effort you can go to the nazarenefund.org
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i know that's a big big part of this although as glenn mentioned we've been able to pass our goal
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at least our initial goal to rescue people in the middle east and obviously any um additional help
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would be uh greatly appreciated though really your prayers would be really appreciated too we're
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talking about christians and other religious minorities who are in severe jeopardy because
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the taliban has taken over these are people who are vetted christians people we've worked with before
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uh and these organizations have worked with before and they are going not to the united states but to
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other third party nations and other areas and they need your help obviously the americans are being
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evacuated by the military we'll see how that is going to go some of the translators as well and those types
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of people who helped during the war but there's other people on the ground here there that are
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in real trouble and everyone's trying to come together and get something done so if you can
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help the nazarenefund.org is the place to go and um you can go to blaze tv.com slash glenn the promo
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code is glenn there to save 10 bucks off your subscription to blaze tv we'll have more on this
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today i'm live from the middle east um in uh one of the countries that is kind of commanding
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control of what is going on in kabul um we have greeted i just i just landed about an hour and a
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half ago uh so i'm a little discombobulated i left during the show yesterday uh and we've been flying
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throughout the night to be able to get here uh it is now late in the afternoon and uh it is uh
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it's a mess it's an absolute mess the good news is people have gotten out um the the u.s citizens
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and those with uh you know what they say blue passports uh those who uh also have letters allowing
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them to get in many of those people were sitting on the tarmac and now they are are leaving the tarmac
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and getting into uh c uh what is it c one what are they 141s uh the transplant the transport planes
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and the united states is saying that really if you're not at the airport now you're not really
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going to get to go and they're asking for people to back up from the gate um because they've pretty
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much given the gates over to the taliban and to uh isis and people have been trying to get
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through the gate with their blue passport and they can't now the united states government is denying
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all of this uh but let me give you this from a cbs reporter when one of the one of the more strange
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uh communications from cbs i've ever seen a cbs reporter says i just got off a video call with a
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u.s citizen a woman housing multiple women and children in her home some are very young others
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are physically disabled i saw them all on a video she said she has tried multiple times with her blue
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passport and can't get to the airport that's true those things are happening right now citizens
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cannot get to the airport uh then somebody on this twitter feed said you should contact glenn beck
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of the nazarene fund they have planes um then somebody said planes are useless when people can't get to
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the airport yes indeed that's true that's why we also have helicopters they said the next person
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uh tweeted uh dad of queens uh they have groups that are getting them to the airport as well
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the nazarene fund is amazing misty said he said today the state department was tanking their efforts
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that's when the cbs reporter said guys none of this is true
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as dad of queens responded and didn't get one from cbs news are you talking about the state
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department blocking or that the nazarene fund isn't doing what they're saying they're doing
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well i am here to testify to you in fact be a witness and that's one of the reasons why i'm here
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to be a witness to history let me play the video here um if you can play that video that i sent you
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from the tarmac of kabul there are the transport planes and you see the people that the united
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states government is taking in lining up to get onto those planes and lo and behold you start to see
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another a couple of other uh commercial jets and this one is our airbus taking in women and children
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so i don't know what part of all of this is a lie but that was taken from my team on the ground
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in kabul we'd like to get more people out um but uh we're not getting any help from the state
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department and it is obscene what the state department is doing right now you have the system
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collapsing on the the outside okay you can take these people who are in the kabul airport
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um we can't help you get anybody through the gate because ooh ooh taliban and isis and i guess we're
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now afraid of them but uh by the way where are you going to fly that plane because they're not giving us
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documentation for these people we've we've vetted them we know who they are and there's nowhere to take
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them because they are blocking the countries from taking them they won't give them you know i told
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you a story the other day of raul wallenberg raul wallenberg is a great american hero except he's not
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american he's swedish but he's an american hero we asked him to do something and then what a surprise
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we abandoned him we asked him to just report on what was going on over in um i think it was prague
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i can't remember exactly a little fuzzy this morning uh but it was in world war ii and we wanted to know
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budapest we wanted to know what was going on with the germans and the jews well he got there and he saw
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what was going on and he they were loading them on trains to bring them to death camps and they were
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liquidating all of these people and so what did he do he started issuing what's called a schutz pass
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he against the king of sweden he started issuing schutz passes which said this person is now under
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the protection of the king of sweden and they are swedish citizens nobody in the world wanted jews
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the nazis were in sweden the king called raul wallenberg and said what are you doing you're gonna get
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us all killed he said you want me to stop you're gonna have to come here and stop me myself these are
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people we can't get the state department to issue our own schutz passes anymore but i have a little
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i have a little surprise for the um for the secretary of state and the state department
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i have the airplanes i have the money i will tell you right now all of these refugees have been spoken
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for by countries all over the world except for the united states the united states won't take people
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who are christians we'll take everybody else but not these christians not these people who as we told
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you yesterday we had a phone call from a fantastic woman who has already saved girls from afghanistan
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and she said i have 200 female judges and they're all marked for death because they put
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their life on the line by sentencing men to prison and then the taliban opened up all the prison and so
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who do you think they want to get that woman who dare put me in jail and tell me what i had to do
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she's a woman so 200 of these judges including uh the um judges of the supreme court
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i don't know i think they should uh i think they should have a country to go to
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now we have several countries we have the united kingdom we have australia we have several in the
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middle east but we can't get the state department should shoulds pass huh
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so the state department i'm just i just want you to know because i know i know you like law and order
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i know you like to do things the right way and so if you don't want to issue you know the papers so
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these people can go to other countries i understand that um that's why i will fill up these planes
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and i will fly them to mexico and these 200 female judges and the christians the families the moms the
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children they'll all be playing someplace in mexico and then i'll walk them across the border because
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that's the only way apparently you can come in legally to america so i'll just walk them across
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the border and don't you dare think i won't do it all the state department has to do
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is just allow the paperwork to go through so these people can be resettled everywhere in the world in
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countries that want them america doesn't want them that's fine then stop being like the nazis
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i tell you i feel exactly like the people must have felt
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when they were just when they had the means when they had the money when they had the angles when
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and the nazis wouldn't let them go why because they wanted to kill them
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well that's exactly what the taliban is doing to these people
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we have the airplanes we have the countries that want to take them
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these uh judges are they were at the gate yesterday they've left the gate now
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we're going to get them out or we're going to die trying
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now england is leaving before we get out of there
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because we're getting out of here we're pulling troops out now we're starting to pull our troops
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when has the united states ever pulled troops out before the job was done
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oh it was probably vietnam when we left people behind last time
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camps i remember wearing the bracelets of the people who we think left we left behind
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and i know it would probably be very unpopular with my listeners
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there's something wrong with you people in washington dc
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you didn't you're not doing the job so the american people are doing the job
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you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program
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uh i i wonder if this would have happened five years ago
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if uh i could tell you what country i was in in the middle east but
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not to the rest of the world but to the middle east because they are so afraid of reprisals from
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uh the taliban from now a reconstituted uh al-qaeda and isis
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and uh i don't think anybody trusts america anymore
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i know i don't recognize my country anymore it's embarrassing
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he was the former director of national intelligence
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uh and uh i mean i just i love this guy richard how are you sir
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thanks for having me i'm really a pleasure to be here
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what is really important for our listeners to understand right now
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is that what is happening was not an intelligence failure
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everyone should feel very good about the fact that
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uh the the people you pay to join the foreign service of the united states
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and go work and our embassies overseas uh our military
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they reported they saw the rise of the taliban early this
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that's out of control certainly but even before may we could uh see that the
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taliban was going to take advantage of the right administration
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it's important to remember that this was not an intelligence failure but a
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let me push back on you just to play devil's advocate and i thought i believe any of this but
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biden will say well that was just one of many voices and of course there were
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there were voices that said it was you know but but everybody really said that it was going to be fine
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well i think uh the reality is is that that's not true there were plenty of warnings from
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state and intelligence officials and let's just let's just be
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um scotty miller who was in charge of bagram uh he warned biden directly and jake sullivan
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directly i have this uh as fact he warned that if you shut down bagram
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and you take away the 2500 troops you will quickly have 5000 nato troops follow you in leaving
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this will be a disaster the taliban will see this as their opportunity and you won't be able to
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respond now look in in the trump administration let's remember glenn that on january 20th of this
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year donald trump handed joe biden a stable afghanistan a functioning embassy at u.s embassy
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kabul and a taliban that was deathly afraid of getting bombed if they took over a city
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the the problem is not talking to the taliban the problem comes in in what the taliban hears
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and what the taliban heard under donald trump is we cannot reconstitute we cannot go forward and
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take over a city we will get bombed and obviously once joe biden took office the taliban completely
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had a different calculus they did not hear that they started to take city by city and nothing happened
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that encouraged them to take over the whole country our troops were withdrawn before we evacuated the
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embassy look i don't say this lightly but for a secretary of state to sit in cabinet meetings
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and allow the military to leave afghanistan before state department employees are evacuated
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that is abandoning state department officials foreign service officers good americans we should
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not allow this to happen the secretary of state should resign in disgrace for allowing the military
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troops to leave before we evacuated the embassy the foreign service officers in these embassies they
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don't carry guns they're looking for political solutions they're doing applications for immigrants who want
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to get out these are front line workers for the united states of america and pushing our good brand
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they don't have guns they are not equipped in a hostile situation they should be protected
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otherwise if they're not going to be protected they should be evacuated and they weren't this is shameful
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i've spent 10 years in the state department and i'm outraged that this happened to the state department
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richard i i don't understand what's happening at the state department we have we have planes on the
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ground the nazarene fund which is a charity that i started years ago it has become this very very
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competent charity we operate all over the world we have now as of today i think we're three thousand
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dollars shy of thirty million dollars we have all the planes we have very competent people working
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in kabul with the generals and everybody at the airport at the airport um we have the ability to move
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thousands of people but we can't get the state department to do anything everything with the state
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department is like pulling teeth and now they're not giving the i don't remember what it is but the
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the permission for these other countries to take these people we have countries that want to take these
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people and they won't give us any of the documentation any of the work they're all fully vetted everything
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what is happening well let me tell you one thing that's happening is that the the paperwork processing
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and a lot of the language skills for the state department are done by what we call local
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employed staff l-e-s is how they call it and the locally employed staff are afghans they have now been
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told by the taliban that they cannot leave the country they will be targeted because they worked for the
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american embassy these people are in grave danger and the state department has not allowed them
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the locally employed staff who has who have worked with americans for decades to not be evacuated
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the taliban is not letting them out and the u.s military the biden administration is not demanding
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that these locally employed folks uh get evacuated so they are in hiding when their lives are now in
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danger we do not have a functioning embassy and people are outraged by this when the military leaves
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you can't expect the state department to stay in a hostile zone
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who's responsible for this who's pulling the strings at the state department
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i i i blame uh secretary blenken's weakness for not standing up in a in a cabinet meeting i've been in
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cabinet meetings and it's a lively discussion and decisions are being made and if you are not at the
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table defending your agency then you are doing a disservice to your employees clearly secretary
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blenken and wendy sherman the deputy secretary of state allowed these decisions to be made where the
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military would be evacuated and their state department employees would not be taken care of how how is that
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possible i have no idea but we do know when you talk about strings being pulled we do know that when
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susan rice was the national security advisor for barack obama her two deputies one was tony blenken our
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current secretary of state and the other was our current director of national intelligence both the
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intelligence agencies and the state department are led by susan rice deputies susan rice is pulling the
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strings she has the title of domestic policy advisor no one in america believes she's working on medicare
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policy what is what what is it that we can do you know i've talked to so many senators and congressmen
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and they're all screaming bloody murder what what is it that we can do um because once the once they
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leave office i mean sorry once they leave the airport all these people are going to be slaughtered richard
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just slaughtered it is americans are going to be uh held hostage if we don't get this right
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and i think that what we can do it first of all we have very poor choices right now we are in a corner
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we have a variety of really bad but wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait wait if i'm president
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of the united states and you come into me and this is going on i say i'm going to airlift
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you know 10 000 marines and i'm going to clear that damn area out and get our people out isn't that an
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option that is absolutely an option that's a dangerous option but it is an option that i think
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we have to look at because all resources should be used the u.s government resources to get americans
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out um my my point is we're in a very bad situation with terrible options uh which are forcing our
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hand to go in and in a messy situation try to clear areas in order to get to the americans
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this is causing our american men and women who work in the military to go into an unnecessary
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conflict zone but they shouldn't be uh having to to to do this and yet we find ourselves in this
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situation but i think okay okay have to be able to do is articulate very clearly as people who have
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access to the media and and social media everybody on this hearing our voices need to articulate get
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the americans home and get them home soon richard grinnell former acting director of national
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intelligence always great to talk to you sir sir stay safe thank you this is the best of the glenbeck
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program representative chris stewart is with us now um in washington dc hi chris how are you
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good morning glenn i'd say thank you god bless you for you and the nazarene fund and the you know the
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hundreds of thousands of people maybe more who've contributed uh that kind of effort is what's so
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important right now yeah chris um i i was uh talking to richard grinnell about an hour ago about
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this debacle and the white house is is is now saying to the press that they're demanding uh you know
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a little you know a little pat on the back for how well this is going now i don't think i've ever
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seen anything worse than this and it gets worse by the hour yeah this is this is a generational failure
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glenn i really believe that just like we see pictures of saigon evacuation at the helicopter at
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the top of the embassy and every american knows what that is even though it took place 50 years ago
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50 years from now our grandkids will see pictures of those 800 afghans in that c-17 and they're going
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to know instantly what it is this will be remembered and it's not going to be remembered as a great
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success for president biden it will be remembered as a the greatest failure in a generation and how they
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can try to twist this and try to turn the narrative that they should be congratulated well it's beyond
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description but american people aren't that stupid and they're not looking at this thinking man they've
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done a great job and even the press for heaven's sakes recognize that now i expect and i'll bet you
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do as well the press will eventually turn on this and try to create the impression that it was handled
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well no way in the world they're going to be able to pull that off it's just such a catastrophe
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it can't be reframed as anything other than that do you believe that you know we're pulling troops out
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beginning today today the the airport is a mess there are pictures now of people standing in
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you know knee deep in sewage um just trying to get close to the gate to to show their passports to
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show their papers that they should be let into the gates um and the white house says we'll have
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everybody out we'll have everybody out that you know a u.s citizen do you believe that no of course
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i don't i don't think there's a person in the world who believes that except for perhaps president
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biden and if he does he is the only one but we've already begun to wind down we talk about the august 31st
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deadline as if you know at 12 o'clock on that day all u.s forces just click their uh you know click
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their heels and they and they are transported back to the u.s we have already begun the drawdown as you
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know 300 marines who were embassy security forces who by the way glenn are marines they know how to
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fight i can promise you those guys didn't want to be evacuated they wanted to stay there with their
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brothers and do what they could to help this situation but yesterday 300 marines brought down and if
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you just look at the timeline and this is blazingly obvious but it's something that needs to be i think
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discussed we have 6 000 u.s forces there now six days to be able to draw them out and counting
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it takes at least three days now to begin and to focus on those security forces and by the way
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withdrawing forces when they're surrounded and when they're outnumbered and when they're outgunned by the
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way now because those the taliban has as you know billions of dollars of u.s weapons
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that is an incredibly delicate and a very dangerous operation and it has to be done over time
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so i think the focus uh over the next really six days but particularly in the last three days will
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be on just that getting the u.s military out and there's no way in the world you're going to get
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out all the american citizens and there's no way in the world we're going to get out those afghans
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who with great courage and commitment believed us when we said we will not abandon you work with us
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work as interpreters work in whatever fashion you can to help us we will not abandon you and that is
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exactly what we're doing to them right now chris you're one of the best fiction writers i've i i know
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you're you're a great writer and you also write non-fiction books um but uh just just write a
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little fiction with me here for a second it's it's two months i'm sorry it's uh two weeks from now
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are we going to be seeing and dealing with hostages
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well i think that depends if you talk to what white house spokeswoman uh depends on what the
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definition of a hostage is at that point right just like some of the other definitional battles
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they've had but if you were an american or if you were at afghani who has been promised that they
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will be evacuated and you're no longer able to do that and you're under the power and uh and and have
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no no ability to to remove yourself that seems to me like a hostage now whether the taliban actually
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holds a gun to their head and says you can't leave or if they just shut down every method of leaving
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any means of beating it's the same outcome uh and and the great fear and this is obvious i think it's
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the one thing that everyone understands the taliban could in a moment sorry the taliban could in a
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moment say these are our hostages they could put guns to their head which is why by the way glenn two
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days ago or yesterday the president went to the taliban and says hey we need more time than august 31st
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they said no and the president came back said oh good well i've announced we're going to leave on august 31st
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it's because he has that great fear of these americans and these afghans being held hostage
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and why did we send the cia chief over to meet with the taliban yesterday what was that all about
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you know that really is kind of an unusual occurrence and working in intel it was puzzling
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to many of us i think this is my observation on this um and i think it's probably right uh i think he's one of the
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few people around the president that he probably trusts right now uh because that's not normally
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it's cia's purview normally that'd be someone from state would be involved with that perhaps with some
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military detail assigned to him but uh that was an interesting thing and i honestly don't don't
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understand the explanation for it we haven't been provided with one oh geez and you're on the
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intelligence uh committee your oversight on that um the um uh the embassy we left bagram and just left
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it turned off the lights um i can't i don't even understand it we built a billion dollar embassy
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there's got to be things in there that we don't want other people to have and i certainly don't want to
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have the taliban allow them to have our billion dollar building are we going to blow that up yeah
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well yeah i i don't know but i mean i can tell you this the former president made it very very clear
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on a number of occasions and he spoke about this publicly and he was adamant about it in private
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we will take every american citizen we will take every afghan ally then we will throw us troops
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second thing we will not leave them a single stick of equipment and uh as you know we've left
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them billions of dollars and bagram was a great example of that it's a very secure location now
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it's difficult to evacuate people from because it's isolated and it's nearly impossible to get u.s
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citizens and afghan allies to bagram so there is that and there's and there's that's understand why
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we wanted to protect kabul and use that as a primary resource but to your point glenn about the uh the
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facility the building the equipment that's there and unfortunately we know classified information
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that was left there uh to abandon that overnight without any explanation to our allies by the way
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who are also relying on bagram for much of their support uh and the explanation is well we couldn't
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protect both of them then adapt your plan if you can't protect a resource that you need adapt the
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military operation so that you can you can't just turn out the lights as you said in the middle of
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night and leave it for the for the taliban i don't know if you saw this but um kamala harris was in
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vietnam yesterday and her plane was delayed i haven't heard an update on this i've been on a plane
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all night um but um her plane was delayed because of the cuba syndrome what they're calling the cuba
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syndrome some people they didn't say who um that were was on her junket over there were
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affected by something that we only identify as the cuba syndrome some sort of array from somebody
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targeting her hotel rooms and her staff's hotel rooms uh i can't imagine that that would have
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happened just even a few weeks ago uh to a vice president but do we know if she's okay what happened
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and who would be responsible for something like that yeah this is this is what we know and and
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that i think i can discuss uh the savannah syndrome or cuba syndrome as you talk about we've been aware
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of it now for probably three years or just short of three years there are not just a few there are
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hundreds of people who have been we believe who have been attacked by this we think we understand
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what kind of weapon it is it should frighten the life out of every american to think that diplomats
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and members of the u.s leaders of the u.s government you can't travel overseas safely
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any longer if this is to continue uh so with the vice president was as again as i understand it was
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a couple of diplomats who were in the hanoi embassy who had uh were showing symptoms of this
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the symptoms are fairly consistent they're long-term this isn't an imaginary thing this is an actual
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physical manifestation and uh and we have no way to counter it and no way to identify when an attack
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is taking place again it puts every one of our diplomats every one of our military every government
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person and civilian as well and you could be a target of this potentially anyone overseas uh and
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and you have no idea when or how it takes place it really is a concern for us that originally the cia
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didn't take it nearly as serious as they needed to they take it very very seriously now but we've
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got an awful long way to go before we understand this and are able to protect u.s persons from such
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an attack so who do we think is responsible for this i mean china russia either well take your pick
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um and you know the information on that is it's fairly closely held and it's understandable but uh
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you know there's a number of allies that uh can you tell me can you tell me um uh how it works i mean
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can you tell me is it a what are the symptoms how long does it last is it deadly yeah it's not deadly
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in the sense it doesn't kill you there's a number of possible explanations a microwave an intense microwave
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a couple other possible uh scientific explanations the the symptoms are everything from nausea to
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uh disorientation severe headaches uh you know dizziness etc etc long-term loss of memory and and
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again this is something you can physically demonstrate through uh an examination it's not
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you know it's not something just imaginary it's not something where they can scan the body and the
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brain and say no we see no evidence of it they actually do see evidence of it it's physical and
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some of the some of the earlier uh individuals who were uh who were victims of this it's been now years
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and they still experience many of these symptoms so it's not something that hits you in the night and
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the next day you feel better many of these symptoms have been prolonged and as i said have been
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acts act of war kind of stuff if we knew exactly who it was wouldn't it attacking the people with
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our vice president it would be and it's not the only type of that kind of scenario where we you know
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we're in this kind of a gray zone i mean look some of the cyber attacks against us you know certainly
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aggressive acts whether they're acts of war or not it depends on you know where you want to draw the
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line but it's not the only uh indication or the only example of us being at risk chris stewart thank
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you so much god bless please uh please keep fighting for us uh in washington and with the state department
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and the military to get these people out we're there and we need your support thank you chris oh we
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we will do that promise you we will do that thank you for everything you do glenn