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Glenn Beck sits down with his son Floyd to discuss his new book, "counterpunch: An unlikely alliance of Americans fighting back for faith and freedom." Glenn and Floyd talk about how important it is to build community, especially in times of crisis.
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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So, um, we are at a time now where, um, I think this is the, you know, right.
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This is the time where you have to decide what side you're on.
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Uh, and I think there are many strange bedfellows that can be made at this point, uh, because
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That's why I actually, my, my book is called counterpunch, but the subtitle is an unlikely
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alliance of Americans fighting back for faith and freedom.
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America is at an inflection point and we've been under such a barrage of what I call false
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And, uh, I mean, you deal with all of these false narratives from climate changes is caused
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I mean, we get all these false narratives and false narratives, their purpose is to make
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people feel alone, isolated, and like they can't do anything.
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And so, you know, I, I, I've traveled the country and speak at conferences and I kept hearing from
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So I thought I would put together a book that explained to them that they have the most power
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We underestimate the power that we have to influence the people that are right around us.
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Um, you know, local action can have national impact.
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And so, uh, it's really a time for people to get engaged.
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It's time for people to start building community again.
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They tried to do everything they could to break the bonds of community.
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And we've got to go the extra step and start rebuilding those bonds.
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So how do you do that when sometimes your family just can't even get together?
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Well, the first thing that I suggest is people get to know their neighbors again.
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Most people, you know, live in an apartment building.
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There's somewhere where there's neighbors nearby, but Americans don't know them anymore.
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And so you can do things as simple as have coffee with them.
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And then I talk about, uh, several examples of groups and organizations that have organically
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grown up as a result of somebody just stepping out.
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I talk about a guy named Basil Furmanos, who's in North Phoenix.
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And so he texted 50 of his friends to come to a coffee shop and meet him and 250 people
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And so that group, um, you know, was launched and they still meet, they meet Mondays, every
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And they, they've been involved in school board races, local legislative races.
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You know, I, nobody's going to ride in on their white horse into Washington, DC and fix
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No people, people have to occupy right where they're at.
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There is, um, there's something also that I think is for me, at least the most important
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Jason Whitlock yesterday said, stop calling me a conservative.
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And I heard a, uh, great, uh, priest talk about this recently on a YouTube video.
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I watch where he said, I'm tired of hearing about a liberal priest or a conservative priest.
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If you're for gay marriage, you're not a liberal priest.
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If you are for, um, you know, transgenderism and the mutilation of our children, you're not
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And I'm not a conservative priest for standing against it.
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And I think re, um, establishing ourselves with our faith.
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And I don't know how many people really have that deep of faith anymore.
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Um, but reestablishing that, no, there are, I have two citizenships, one to the United
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States and my, my first citizenship is to the kingdom of God.
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And I'm not going to break those laws in either of those citizenships.
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You know, we, we, we all know that, uh, Tucker Carlson just recently was released at Fox.
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And, uh, part of the speculation is we don't know everything that happened is that he was
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starting to talk in terms of spiritual warfare and, and, and he, he, he was calling out people
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He gave this speech to the heritage foundation on their 50th anniversary where, uh, you know,
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he, he, he, he said things that offend the elites.
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And so, uh, you know, I think that that's a big part of why he might have been removed.
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And, um, you know, I encourage people to get back into scripture.
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I think one of the ways that you can discern these false narratives is if you're putting
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good things into your mind and the Bible and the scripture is full of wisdom.
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So, you know, turn off social media, turn off Twitter, turn off Facebook and spend some
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And I think it will really change your perspective about things.
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You know, if people went and swore off, uh, you know, movies, TV shows that are on Netflix,
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people don't realize how far we have drifted just in the last 10 years.
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You can't watch anything anymore that, you know, you would have, you would have thought
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And what's good and wholesome now is still filthy.
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You know, well, that's, that's one of the good things about having these streaming sites
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I mean, I mean, my, my wife and I, we watched murder.
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She wrote, which came out during the Reagan years.
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So, but you know, uh, uh, uh, Alinsky, who was the most powerful influence on the left
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And what he helped the left do was maximize their influence, but he did it by ridicule and
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And, uh, in fact, you know, uh, he, he dedicated his book to Lucifer, the most divisive person
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And, and I actually encourage people to do the opposite of Alinsky.
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And that is start to love the people around you, start to love your neighbors, start to re-engage
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with your neighbors, and then find people like you that you want to work with, and then get
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involved in your school board race, get involved in some of these key things, because, you know,
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we still have the bill of rights, we still have freedom of the press.
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And if we don't exercise these freedoms, we will lose them.
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I think that's one of the most important things that you have said is start to, uh, love your
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I, I, I, I gave a speech, uh, a couple of nights ago in Virginia and, uh, I said, you
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know, their hatred comes from darkness and ignorance.
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And, uh, there is a hatred that is spreading all over the world.
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And if we really are disciples of Christ, we have to love our enemies and we have to
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Some of these people know exactly what they're engaged in.
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I think a lot of other people don't really know, and they've just kind of, they've just
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kind of eased their way into it and they don't realize that they're up to their neck
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And the Lord wants all of his kids back, not just us, not one side or the other.
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Uh, and you're never going to accomplish that with hatred and anger and violence.
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I mean, his message is a message of love of radical love.
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And, um, you know, when I was growing up, we had the Kiwanis club, we had the lions club,
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we had the rotary club, we had all of these civic organizations that were, were building
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And, you know, those organizations now are all in really tough shape.
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A lot of people didn't come back, uh, there, there, a lot of them will never re-engage.
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We have to rebuild community and start with our neighborhoods and start with our neighbors.
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And we can take back the country, literally town by town, city by city, county by county.
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There's over 3000 counties in America that are, uh, in essence, red counties.
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And a lot of times, uh, they aren't being run that way because people just aren't active
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And politics encourages and invites and attracts some of the worst elements.
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The name of the book that he's just put out is counterpunch.
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You can get counterpunch wherever you get your books and you can also find, uh, much of his
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work at westernjournal.com, westernjournal.com.
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Now, I want to talk to you about, uh, your elections.
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Texas, I know, has elections going on right now through May 2nd.
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Um, but this is, these are the ones where they get you because they're very organized.
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And some of these elections, many of them school board elections, they can be won by three votes
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You need to call your friends and organize your neighborhood.
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Literally, if you put 10 people in a car, you could be the difference on a winning and
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losing election in an election like what's happening right now.
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Um, I want to introduce you to, uh, Stephanie Alad.
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Stephanie, yes, she's a California native, but she got to Texas as soon as she could.
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Um, so you moved from California, you moved to Frisco, which is a really nice, uh, part of
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North Texas and it has great schools and you got into the schools and then you started
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paying attention to what was being said because of COVID and what happened.
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And then I started to notice some things even before COVID, but then after COVID definitely.
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And so I went to a school board meeting just about two years ago, actually.
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I felt like the parents who had taken time to be there were, were very disrespected.
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In fact, the school board president at the time said, this is our meaning, meaning theirs
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So to make a very long story short, I ended up running for school board last year and I
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So I have been a school board member, um, for about a year now.
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And you found out, and we have the tape, we're going to play it here in a second.
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You found out that other members of the school board were meeting without you to try to figure
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So, so what happened last fall was that myself and another trustee put an item on the agenda
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Once you hear what you're about to play, it'll probably make more sense, but it took
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And I didn't really think that much about the fact that it took a while, even though
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we have procedures as part of the board in terms of how long things should take before
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they get on an agenda when trustees request it.
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But anyways, apparently there was, um, some constituents of our community who were angry
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So our three board officers met with them to address their concerns.
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And, um, they were concerned that we had just passed a policy saying, you know, boys
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use boys' restrooms, girls' use girls' restrooms.
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And so this, this audio was the three board officers, um, kind of responding to those concerns.
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I am so tired of having, because every time it's on a board meeting, every time it's on
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an agenda, the entire tape crowd now can come and speak about how terrible they think
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This, this woman is saying, I am so sick and tired of it.
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Every time we talk about bathrooms, then the entire hate crowd comes in and we have
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I mean, Marvin and Stephanie are going to keep on, but every time they're going to ruin
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And I have mechanisms in place that I can push and I can use our subcommittee structure.
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That's how long I've been able to push this out.
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And so, like, I have mechanisms by which I can do that.
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They want it on the regular board meetings because it's a show.
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If they ask for anything transgender policy going forward, it will be on a special meeting
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in the middle of the day that no one goes through.
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And the only way we can combat what they're doing is to make sure our board stays then
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They have never been successful in passing a bathroom policy at the state level.
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Because we need to be in the audience listening to what their narrative is so that we have
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In case you need a recap, some of the things discussed there was we're tired of the people
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coming to the meetings and wrecking the meetings.
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And Stephanie and her fellow board member, they keep coming and they're going to wreck all
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So, then the next one says, well, I can keep it off the agenda.
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And I have mechanisms that will keep it off the agenda.
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And the other one says, and if they want to put it on the agenda, we can put it on in
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We have to make sure that the good guys remain in control of the board.
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The question is, who are the good guys and who are the bad guys?
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When you heard this, Stephanie, what did you think?
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Because, you know, I understand that there's a divide within the board and that, you know,
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the existing board members didn't want me on it.
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That was made very clear in last year's election.
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But, you know, I was surprised that anyone went to this level to do this.
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And it was very concerning to me to call, you know, to characterize the parents as being
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These are parents who came and spent their time and spoke, in most cases, pretty eloquently
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about their concern about this bathroom practice that the district had had and, quite honestly,
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So, you know, they're allowed to come and say that.
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There were fathers coming concerned about their daughters.
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There were, you know, there was a mom who came, who her son had been impacted by this
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whole issue of having a biological girl in the boys' restroom.
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And then, you know, when this mother complained to the school about that, they said, well,
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your son can use the nurse's restroom if he's uncomfortable.
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And it, you know, one of the things that concerns me the most about this whole environment
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that we live in, especially as it relates to school board elections, is if you don't agree
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with the establishment, then you're, you know, you're a hate crowd, right?
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But this name calling and this rhetoric is just, it's escalated in Frisco this year because
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So, first of all, are there people that you've talked to or you're getting some other people
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like you on that are running now for the board?
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There are two people that I am supporting in this election.
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I sort of characterize it as establishment candidates versus independent voices.
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And so there are, I've supported Reed Bond and Susan Kershaw.
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We have two seats up for election this year and I have publicly endorsed and supported
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Are they running as, are they Republicans or Democrats or independents?
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And they've gotten all the endorsements from all the conservative groups and a lot of the
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But because they're nonpartisan races, it doesn't have the, any kind of party affiliation
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Um, and, and how do you, are there any, I mean, cause they're so, they hide, they hide.
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Look, if you want bathrooms to be shared by, you know, both sexes or all 99, I'm not the
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So how do you know that you're, you're standing with somebody that is good?
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And I think a lot of these, these grassroots organizations, um, you know, do the vetting.
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And so that's what I tell people is go look at their questionnaires, go look at who they're
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Um, in fact, I was interested to find out that the Frisco Chamber of Commerce, when they did
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their forum, that's kind of the biggest forum that we have here.
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They asked, you know, do you support getting out of the Texas Association of School Boards
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And I thought, well, that's a, that's a question.
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The other thing I'll say, just to kind of get back to the video for a quick second, is
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that one of our state representatives, um, did request that the TEA, the Texas Education
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Agency do an investigation into this to see if there was any kind of wrongdoing.
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And so it is my understanding that that investigation has occurred.
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So there's been quite a bit of backlash to it, including from several of our elected officials
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who've gotten involved and are trying to do something to, to just stop this stuff.
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So the, uh, Texas Association of School Boards, um, you know, we, we know about the school
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board, um, associations nationally, uh, and the Texas teachers unions, uh, they were instrumental
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in killing, uh, school choice here in Texas, which is incredible to me.
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Um, what role do those guys play in school boards and, and, uh, races like this?
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So the Texas Association of School Boards, um, all trustees become a member once they get
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sworn in, if your district is a member of, of that organization and all districts in Texas,
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except for one are, and that, that would be Carol ISD in Southlake who recently just voted
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to get out of the Texas Association of School Boards.
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Um, but basically they provide training for trustees.
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They provide legal and others as well, employees, things like that.
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Um, they also provide legal services for districts and insurance services and things like that.
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But they're on the wrong, they're on the wrong side.
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I've seen them push quite a bit of, of progressive ideology.
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Um, I was not a fan of that organization when I was running because I had heard about this
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And that is basically where you have seven trustees and a superintendent and you're supposed
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And I thought, well, that, that just seemed counterintuitive to me on the face of it.
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Cause I thought, well, aren't the trustees supposed to be there to, you know, oversee the district
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and isn't the superintendent supposed to report to the board and isn't the board supposed to
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be seven independent voices trying to make decisions for the community.
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So the whole team of eight concept, I ran a platform kind of against that.
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In fact, I think I've specifically said I will not be team of eight.
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Um, so that was kind of my thoughts before I, before I got on.
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And then, you know, when I got on the board, I had the chance last fall to go to a convention
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that was put on by the Texas association of school boards and they brought in ACLU attorneys
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to talk to the trustees about some of these controversial issues.
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I mean, it's one thing to present both sides of an issue, but I didn't see any heritage
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foundation speakers or, you know, anything like that.
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I saw the ACLU and I was, I was quite honestly horrified because it was, you know, you have
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to allow pornographic books in libraries, just make sure they're age appropriate, which
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meant to me, I guess high school is okay, but maybe some books aren't okay for elementary
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But they basically told us there's no book, you know, that you should take out of the
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And then they also, you know, said, you know, boys should be in girls' locker rooms and stuff
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And I mean, I heard them say it and I, I couldn't get my mind around the fact that that's what
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And so there's a lot of that stuff that, that goes on in the conventions, but even just a
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lot of the rhetoric from, you know, this organization, they basically said that when
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you, you know, when you become a trustee, you serve a district and not the voters.
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And I thought, well, that's, you know, what the heck is that?
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So, so I have not been a fan of this organization.
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I didn't think so, but, um, yeah, uh, for your term, so I'll be in until 2025, at least
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and, but I'm supporting Reed Bond and Susan Kershaw to be independent voices for Frisco
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I just wanted to talk to you for, uh, the one reason that these are the elections that
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And literally they can be won by one vote, six votes.
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If you just grab five people, put them in your car, go and go and vote, do your homework.
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But if you have these elections going now, locally, you've got to vote.
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Uh, we are heard every day and watched, uh, every day on radio stations all over, uh, America.
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And we are also watched and carried on blaze TV, blaze audio and podcasts.
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The same can be said for our good friend, Rick Burgess, who is, uh, part of, uh, Rick and
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Bubba and Rick and Bubba are on, uh, every morning on blaze TV where you can watch their
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They are also heard on radio nationwide, uh, and very, very funny and really, really good
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He just did an interview that I heard with William Shatner, um, where, uh, William kept
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referring to, uh, Rick as Bubba the entire time.
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This is Rick, but, uh, welcome to the program, Bubba.
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Our Bubba, this is Bubba and I were, you know, we're in our 29th year in four months.
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So at this point, if someone calls me Bubba at the grocery store, I just answer.
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If somebody asks me how his wife's doing, I just pretend my wife is not happy about this.
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My wife, my wife literally says, Glenn, she says, if another person asked me if I'm married
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Uh, she, she's, I'm only married to one of them.
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So look, we're interchangeable and you don't interrupt William Shatner.
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And he was, he said, you know, I watch you every day.
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He said, because it's, it's as if I'm a pyromaniac and I'm just watching everything burn down in front of me.
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And if you noticed, if you noticed, I said this when it was over, you know, Speedy, all the guys on the show, they're like, why didn't you correct him?
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And of course, Bubba loved the fact that didn't cause he ended up having to miss the interview.
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Cause you interview William Shatner when he can, or what he tells you to.
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And so I said, well, don't worry, Bubba, there's no interviewing Shatner.
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He, he said for eight minutes, what he wanted to say.
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You know, and, uh, and what's sad though, is Bubba is the one who loves star Trek.
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I really thought Boston legal in that character, you know, was the most hilarious one.
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Oh, he is a phenomenal, I mean, he never, I mean, this is not what you're on for.
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So we're going to stop talking about William Shatner, but he is an awesome actor.
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He really is in a very stilted sort of William Shatner sort of way.
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Anyway, um, it says right here on my little piece of paper, uh, the topic I'm supposed
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to address is why are the majority of church congregations made up of women?
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But I'm not going with that because you are, uh, the founder of the man church.
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So the answer, where are all the men there at Rick or Bubba's church?
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Do you ever get tired of people hitting you with stats about something and you begin to
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scream, well, are we going to do anything about it or just keep talking about this?
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So we have, we have been on every, this is what every father's day, every time I've ever
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been in church, the guy gets up and appreciate it.
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Uh, you, the Barner research is in and, and, and there is no influence that's anywhere near
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The men and women are of equal value and equal standing before God almighty.
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However, there's a headship and that he gave to man and there's a maternal connection he
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As we know, you know, that Jesus himself said, I'm here to do the will of my father.
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There was a headship and the father, but the father and the son are equal, you know, so
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But, but what, but what that we hear is that Barner and all these others have researched
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that inside a home, if the mother and father are there, if the man becomes a follower of
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Christ, there is the low, the highest that ever was, there's a 93% chance the rest of
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And then I think now down it's to 78 or 82, but it drops substantially down to if, if,
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if mom becomes a spiritual leader of the home, it gets like the 23% that the rest of the house
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If it's a child, it's in single digits that that child could influence the rest of their
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So the question that we asked at themanchurch.com or God finally, you know, convicted me, are
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Or why don't you quit waiting for someone else to do something?
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And I said, well, what are we actually doing about it?
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And most Western churches, if you go in, you will find that they'll say this on Father's
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But if you looked at the budget or an investment or any game plan to reach and disciple men
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so they can actually do the job as spiritually leading, spiritually leading their home, you
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find that it's financed dead last, or there's really not a game plan at all.
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So here was the question we have to ask, do we really believe it?
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And in this country right now, wherever you go, when you see chaos, you see one thing.
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And now we're getting into this, you know, biological men now want to identify as women.
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Anytime men leave their proper place under the authority of the one and only living God,
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And so you're not going to address this nation's spiritual problem with some kind of worldly
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And so at themanchurch.com and here at the Rick and Bubba show, we said, well, if that
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will have a huge impact, if men have the most influence, if we got men in their proper place,
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And so we're being intentional about reaching, but then discipling men from spiritual infancy
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to spiritual maturity, because we can't just tell them they need to spiritually lead their
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I mean, I told everybody, how would I feel if I went to church every Father's Day and
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they told me I was supposed to be the mechanic of my home?
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And I said, my goodness, the Bible clearly says that.
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And I looked around and I said, anybody going to show me how to be a mechanic?
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So when all we do is challenge men, but we don't equip them, we just frustrate them.
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But if all we do is challenge and we don't equip, we're just frustrating men and we must
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So at themanchurch.com, we have a whole strategy where you can just plug in.
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And we have now our fourth 40-week curriculum that's coming out.
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And this curriculum is designed to get men into small groups and actually equip them,
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disciple them, teach them the Word of God, teach them to be able to handle the Word of
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God, teach them what God's standard is, teach them the truth, not just shout at them and
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tell them to do it, actually show them how to do it.
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And so we have multiple resources available and we go into the churches and we set up
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And like I say, we've got, like we were talking about a new resource that we just put out
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And that's the latest resource that we're putting out right now.
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You know how Jesus is always counterculture, Glenn?
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The subtitle, picture how mad this makes everybody, embracing the death of self and the power of
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God, go out to today's world and say, you need to die to yourself.
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That's counterculture, but that's exactly what Jesus said.
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I mean, we are all, we're making ourselves into gods.
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So, self-worship is the number one, that's the largest going religion we have in our
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You know, the first question was, you know, why are the majority of church congregations
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Let me tell you where we established the strategy.
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Honestly, if you go into the church, women and children are being taken care of.
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There is a game plan for them, and it's a flawed strategy.
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The Western church, I don't know when this happened, what was the first seminary to do
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They came a strategy that says you reach the family through the children.
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You do a great children's program, and you reach the children, then those children reach
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Men are more than willing to drop their kids and their wives off at church and then go play golf.
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And what's happened, we've designed a lot of Western churches, and they're designed to
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reach women and children, and men are on the outskirts.
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But the children soon find out, this is something that mama wants to do.
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Daddy's just giving in if he comes with us at all.
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But this really isn't something he's made a priority.
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So then the children don't buy in back to that influence again.
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So we found in Scripture that three times a year, God was telling Moses in the Old Testament,
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three times a year, this is in Deuteronomy 16, 16, and Exodus 34, 23, three times a year,
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So there was a precedent that God said, there is a time when I want to speak just to the
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men, and I'll tell them what to now implement into their families and into society.
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God tells Adam what they can and cannot do and expects him to then tell the wife that
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And Adam, of course, as we know, fails at that job.
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And when God shows up, he doesn't ask Eve what happened.
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So God has always expected men to hear instruction from him and then implement that into their
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And we have failed miserably at equipping men to do that.
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So we're just stepping up and saying, we'll do it.
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I just have to tell you, somewhere in New York City, there is a maybe 24-year-old intern
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in a cubicle at Media Matters, who is now just a heap of blubbering jello after the last
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I do all these things, but that doesn't make you a man.
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We don't do the uncomfortable, here comes a sports hero who came to Jesus and he gets
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up and tries to tell you sports stories and force them down on scripture.
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If you're good at sports, you can climb a mountain, you can lift a lot of weight, you
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want to bar fight, you got camo on, you know, you can, that's not what makes a man.
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What makes you a man is whether you're a follower of Christ or not.
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And if we had told men that Jesus Christ actually said, deny yourself, pick up your cross and
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follow me, enter by a narrow gate, those who choose to follow me, the path will be hard
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See, the Marines said the few, the proud, the Marines, Jesus said the few, the humble, my
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And if we were telling men that it's actually the most masculine man thing you could ever
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do is actually decide to follow Jesus, that's one of our slogans, to be a man, follow Jesus.
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Yeah, but in the Marines, you get that snappy uniform that the chicks take.
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Yeah, and unfortunately, following Jesus, you get a cross.
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And it's becoming more and more, uh, less fun, if you will, but more and more important
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Oh, look, I go to bed every night sleeping, not because my life's easy, but because my life
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And, and to me, there's nothing more important, important than that.
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True masculinity is Christ centered masculinity.
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You know, when God became a man, he did it perfectly.
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Thank you for your friendship and your broadcast on the blaze.
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And, and, and, and thank you so much for allowing the platform.
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You've been so good to our show and the whole, all of us, uh, just love you and glad to be
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And, and if anybody needs our help on this, you can go to themanchurch.com.
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Our brand new, uh, you know, resource is a new 31 day devotional.
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And I kind of talk about my story in there a little bit.
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And that's what we need embracing the death of self and the power of God.
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You can get it at themanchurch.com or on Amazon, but it's available now.
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So it's kind of you, Glenn, to, to offer us the platform.
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Thank you very much, Rick or Bubba, whichever one you are.