The Glenn Beck Program - March 17, 2023


Best of the Program | Guests: Riley Gaines & Joe Kennedy | 3⧸17⧸23


Episode Stats

Length

31 minutes

Words per Minute

161.71722

Word Count

5,059

Sentence Count

400

Misogynist Sentences

9

Hate Speech Sentences

3


Summary

Biden is suing a computer company for invasion of privacy, and the House Oversight Committee is getting closer to getting the evidence thrown out of the case. Dr. Andrew Fox joins the show to talk about why women should not be allowed to compete in sports.


Transcript

00:00:00.000 Hey, today's podcast is great. We want to start by giving you an update on Hunter Biden.
00:00:05.380 Apparently, he's suing Jason Buttrell, our chief researcher and head writer of the program is here.
00:00:11.940 So he's suing the computer company for what? Invasion of privacy?
00:00:18.380 Invasion of privacy. So, yeah, I mean, he's suing over Russian disinformation or is this actually his laptop?
00:00:23.820 Yeah, I know.
00:00:24.160 We have confirmation, Glenn.
00:00:25.240 Isn't that weird? They've always said that it wasn't his laptop. Now it is his laptop.
00:00:30.320 Oh, OK.
00:00:30.860 But you shouldn't have looked at it.
00:00:32.380 Right.
00:00:32.720 I'm imagining that this case, I'd like to see where the case was filed. Bet you it was in.
00:00:37.960 Well, I don't know if they would have jurisdiction to be able to do it in Washington, D.C., but they do it in Delaware.
00:00:44.100 That's dirty as hell, too.
00:00:46.400 But that's trying to get all of the evidence on the laptop thrown out.
00:00:51.960 And it's getting pretty. They're getting close.
00:00:54.580 They're getting close. Yeah, definitely. Do not look at what the House Oversight Committee was revealing yesterday.
00:00:58.540 And what we talked about today.
00:01:00.220 Right. And so that's right at the beginning of the podcast.
00:01:03.680 There's a lot of stuff and some really good news.
00:01:06.860 We had Riley Gaines on just to just at the end of the podcast.
00:01:11.320 She is fantastic. Just fantastic.
00:01:14.540 I just wanted to check in with her and see what was going on in her world.
00:01:18.520 She's the woman who was standing up, you know, against men coming in and swimming.
00:01:23.760 And she's the 12 time champion women's American women's swimming champion.
00:01:30.080 She's remarkable. There's there's a lot on today's podcast you're going to really enjoy and learn from.
00:01:35.600 So don't miss a second of it.
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00:03:08.500 You're listening to The Best of the Glenn Beck Program.
00:03:13.140 So Riley Gaines has been one of the people who have really stood up and just taken a beating for it.
00:03:20.660 We're going to have her on the program today.
00:03:23.780 Also, Joe Kennedy is coming up.
00:03:25.980 Joe is the Bremerton High School assistant coach that won the Supreme Court case for the right to play.
00:03:33.020 I can't believe he wanted his job back, but he did, and they gave it to him.
00:03:39.840 He's back at his old job after seven years of fighting.
00:03:46.080 It's an amazing story, and he is just happy as ever.
00:03:50.060 Joe Kennedy is going to be joining us in a few minutes.
00:03:52.120 And I wanted to stop down, and I kind of wanted our next guest to actually hear those interviews because he's in the throes of it right now.
00:04:05.120 His name is Dr. Andrew Fox.
00:04:07.020 He is a former Austin, Texas Fire Department chaplain, and he wrote a blog post explaining why he believes males should not compete in female sports, and they fired him.
00:04:23.560 He's a chaplain.
00:04:25.860 Hmm, that seems like freedom of speech and religion, but maybe that's just me.
00:04:32.200 Well, Dr. Andrew Fox, welcome to the program.
00:04:35.360 Pleasure to be here.
00:04:36.460 Thank you for having me on.
00:04:37.620 You bet.
00:04:38.940 Your accent does not sound Texan.
00:04:42.040 Where are you from?
00:04:43.800 No, I was an immigrant from the United Kingdom in 1999, and now a citizen with my family.
00:04:50.700 Wow.
00:04:51.140 And you came here why?
00:04:53.740 Religious workers' visa.
00:04:54.940 I came to be a pastor in Washington State, and so, you know, the die was cast.
00:05:03.560 That's who I am, and that's what I'm known for.
00:05:06.520 So, you know, when you came here, it was a different country than it is now.
00:05:13.080 Oh, my goodness, 23 years ago, the welcome to the United States to live here, work here, raise my family, is now completely different in my mind 23 years later.
00:05:26.300 Not the same country I moved to.
00:05:28.100 I'm sorry.
00:05:29.700 So, you were working for the fire department, and you were counseling families, and, you know, what else did you do for the fire department?
00:05:38.780 Well, the role of a chaplain is a resource for crisis, especially for those in uniform, men and women.
00:05:47.300 I didn't care how they identified or who they associated with.
00:05:51.800 It was inclusive to everyone in uniform.
00:05:54.080 When you see death, be it a car accident or a fire or something else, and then you have to give death notices to those families.
00:06:02.580 You're dealing with extreme situations that most people don't face regularly.
00:06:08.780 So, when there's a knock on the door, I didn't know we did this.
00:06:12.180 There's a knock on the door.
00:06:13.280 It's not just a cop or a fireman.
00:06:16.100 You're told by a chaplain.
00:06:19.700 Yeah.
00:06:20.120 A chaplain is accompanied by law enforcement.
00:06:24.680 But, yeah, that walk from the sidewalk to the front door, you're about to change somebody's trajectory forever.
00:06:31.620 That must be horrible, that walk every time.
00:06:36.380 Well, as a Christian man, I, you know, I live in the grace of God to say the right thing and do the right thing and be a support to that family, no matter what their beliefs are.
00:06:50.200 Okay.
00:06:50.540 So, you were writing on your own personal blog, correct?
00:06:55.080 Correct.
00:06:55.460 And what did you write?
00:06:58.060 You wrote about women's sports.
00:07:01.760 I did.
00:07:02.520 The blog is called Willie Woke and the Chocolate Factory.
00:07:06.220 And I questioned biological men competing against women as a woman, that it was yet another attack on the beauty of what it is to be a woman.
00:07:20.560 And I offered arguments from all sides, citing athletes that are heterosexual, not heterosexual, but identified differently.
00:07:32.580 So, a comprehensive view, not just a singular view.
00:07:36.780 And I was fired for it.
00:07:39.380 What did they say to you?
00:07:40.500 Well, the chief, the fire chief, first of all, told me that it wasn't his business to censor me in a private blog.
00:07:48.920 Weeks later, I met with the representative of LBGTQ to find out what offended them.
00:07:57.740 And they couldn't tell me, but they were just offended.
00:08:00.340 But they couldn't tell me what was wrong precisely.
00:08:02.880 And shortly after that, I received a phone call telling me I was fired, unless I wrote an open letter of apology for my Christian beliefs.
00:08:12.120 Good heavens, we have just, we've slipped into madness.
00:08:18.220 Just madness.
00:08:20.700 So, you probably, at least I hope, immediately called an attorney?
00:08:26.280 I did.
00:08:27.000 I called several attorneys.
00:08:28.760 And as soon as the city of Austin was mentioned, they backed off until one very old, very, very old attorney.
00:08:39.600 He recommended the Alliance Defending Freedom, who are, I wouldn't be where I'm at today without them.
00:08:46.300 They are a stellar group of people.
00:08:48.000 They really are.
00:08:48.840 We are close to them.
00:08:51.080 They are really amazing people.
00:08:53.620 So, they took on the case, and where does it stand?
00:08:58.760 Right now, it is, the case is continuing to move forward.
00:09:04.260 I believe next month we're going to deposition.
00:09:08.960 But still very much alive and kicking.
00:09:13.160 And gathering momentum on both sides.
00:09:17.480 Which, again, is not the country I moved to.
00:09:20.460 It's a ridiculous situation that I find myself in.
00:09:24.940 I find it terrifying that you couldn't find an attorney to take that case quickly.
00:09:32.020 No, no.
00:09:32.880 As soon as they found out the details, they backed off.
00:09:37.960 And if it wasn't for the old boy that recommended Alliance Defending Freedom, I'd have my head in my hands.
00:09:47.100 But I'm grateful for those who fight for freedom.
00:09:50.600 It's opened my eyes to a bigger horizon.
00:09:53.160 It is, it's remarkable that, you know, I had the best freedom of speech attorneys in the country.
00:10:02.080 A firm in Washington, D.C., they, that's what they were known for.
00:10:07.980 And they have defended me in several cases.
00:10:12.140 And at one point about, I don't know, three, four years ago, they, we were in the middle of a case.
00:10:18.840 And they said, we can't take your case anymore.
00:10:22.300 Hey, what are you talking about?
00:10:23.340 And it was, you know, they said, we just have to kind of keep the peace in the firm.
00:10:29.340 And, you know, but they were representing people like Google.
00:10:32.640 And they just didn't want to have my name associated with their firm.
00:10:38.760 And I said to them, are you kidding me?
00:10:42.960 Is the spirit of John Adams completely dead now?
00:10:46.780 And it is.
00:10:47.740 It is.
00:10:48.540 People, you know, attorneys are afraid for their own career.
00:10:53.800 And you got nothing.
00:10:56.140 If you don't have a government that respects the Bill of Rights or attorneys that will stand for the Bill of Rights, you don't, you don't have a country of freedom anymore.
00:11:05.680 Right.
00:11:06.460 And that's, that's what I was asked.
00:11:08.240 I was asked to write a letter of apology or I'd be fired.
00:11:12.200 But I, you know, when you move to another country, you put everything on the line.
00:11:16.460 And I've been blessed in the work that I'm doing and that I've done, but I was not prepared to put my character, my beliefs on the line and sell them short.
00:11:27.360 And so I refused.
00:11:29.040 And I think we need more voices that stand up and say, no, I am not going to do this.
00:11:34.860 That's why I wanted you on today.
00:11:37.220 And I wanted to encourage you to continue to stand.
00:11:40.260 And I'd be shocked if your case wasn't, wasn't overturned here.
00:11:46.120 What, what is, do you want to go back to the fire department?
00:11:50.300 I would like to be offered the position back.
00:11:52.760 Yes.
00:11:53.380 I still have many, many, many friends in the fire department.
00:11:58.480 There's 1300 uniformed personnel.
00:12:01.100 And again, I never asked about people's private lives.
00:12:06.600 If they're wearing a badge and they need a chaplain, I serve them inclusively.
00:12:12.160 And that need is still there.
00:12:14.860 Uh, I get calls still from battalion chiefs, captains, lieutenants, asking me to, uh, come and visit their men and women.
00:12:24.180 Um, not at the fire station, cause that's government property, but in their homes.
00:12:28.660 So as a private citizen, I'm still in hospitals, homes, and, uh, different places, uh, public places.
00:12:36.920 Um, the need is still there.
00:12:38.860 If you were living in England, um, you'd probably be facing the same thing over in England.
00:12:45.780 And in Canada, you would as well.
00:12:48.100 If this falls, where do you go?
00:12:52.180 You know, I just got back from England from lecturing over there and, uh, you're exactly, absolutely right.
00:12:58.560 What's happening here is happening there.
00:13:01.120 Uh, where do I go?
00:13:03.040 Glenn, I can only say I can stand my ground.
00:13:06.300 Uh, I'm a man of prayer.
00:13:08.380 I'm a man of conviction.
00:13:09.760 I didn't move to the United States to, uh, uh, get a job.
00:13:14.480 I had a job in England.
00:13:15.940 I was, uh, also in public ministry there.
00:13:19.480 I moved here to contribute.
00:13:21.400 It's my contribution to the country that welcomed me in.
00:13:24.580 And I still want to contribute.
00:13:26.980 And, uh, for me, that is the United States of America.
00:13:30.860 Uh, it's an opportunity.
00:13:32.660 And, uh, uh, when a government agency does this to you in such a short time, 23 years,
00:13:39.760 it's, it's wrong.
00:13:41.780 I have no other words for it.
00:13:43.000 It's wrong and it needs to change.
00:13:45.240 Dr. Andrew Fox.
00:13:46.200 Thank you so much.
00:13:46.920 You know, and I, I guess we've had Ryan on the phone the whole time.
00:13:49.280 I didn't know this.
00:13:49.940 Ryan Bangert.
00:13:50.680 I'm sorry.
00:13:51.320 I, I, I didn't get to you.
00:13:53.040 Um, but, uh, Ryan is with the Alliance Defending Freedom.
00:13:56.340 Uh, and Ryan, what can we do to help?
00:14:00.820 Hey, Glenn.
00:14:01.720 The best thing you can do is go to adflegal.org, which is our website.
00:14:05.240 We have profiles of all of our cases, including Dr. Fox's case, where we're
00:14:09.580 fighting for his right to believe and his right not to be coerced by the government
00:14:14.200 to, uh, accept government orthodoxy.
00:14:17.140 So all of our cases are there, uh, adflegal.org, best place to access all of our resources.
00:14:23.380 Adflegal.org.
00:14:25.220 You might want to write that down.
00:14:26.620 You might also want to contribute now because you might need that at some point.
00:14:30.380 Uh, adflegal.org.
00:14:32.880 Um, I, I appreciate all of the hard work that you guys do in the cases you do take
00:14:37.840 on.
00:14:38.200 This seems Ryan to be a pretty open and shut case, or have we really fallen even further
00:14:45.580 than I thought we have?
00:14:47.940 Well, you would think when it is an open and shut case, uh, this is a situation where the
00:14:52.900 government, in this case, the city of Austin is telling a citizen what to believe, how to
00:14:57.800 think the shocking thing about this case is the government demanded that Dr. Fox apologize
00:15:04.340 for believing Christian orthodoxy and publishing that on his own private blog.
00:15:10.600 And that was the condition of him keeping his job.
00:15:13.280 And if a government can force Dr. Fox to do that, he can force anyone to do that.
00:15:17.880 And that's why this case is so important.
00:15:19.940 If the government can instruct one citizen of their right for the first amendment to believe
00:15:24.020 them to speak as they will, then no one is safe.
00:15:27.920 And so this case is tremendously important for that reason.
00:15:30.740 Ryan Bangert, thank you so much.
00:15:32.360 Dr. Andrew Fox, thank you.
00:15:33.860 We'll be watching, uh, this as it, uh, develops.
00:15:38.140 Sincerely, um, you might want to contribute because you might be on the receiving end of
00:15:42.440 this at some point and sincerely write this down because you may need them at some point.
00:15:48.560 Dr. Fox said, I called attorneys.
00:15:50.040 I didn't know who to call.
00:15:50.900 You call adflegal.org.
00:15:54.300 Go there now, help them see all of their cases, adflegal.org.
00:16:01.060 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:16:06.000 So, uh, I'm excited to talk to Joe Kennedy.
00:16:08.600 Joe, when was the last time we spoke?
00:16:10.600 It was before the decision, wasn't it?
00:16:13.360 Yes, it was.
00:16:13.960 It was, uh, yeah, early last year.
00:16:16.360 Yeah.
00:16:16.740 Well, congratulations.
00:16:19.540 Thank you.
00:16:20.900 Yeah.
00:16:22.180 Uh, uh, Joe Kennedy is the, uh, high school assistant coach, uh, from Bremerton high school.
00:16:28.620 Uh, and, uh, that's up in Washington state.
00:16:31.460 And, and he was fired because he was praying and he wasn't, you know, he wasn't indoctrinating
00:16:37.860 anybody.
00:16:38.480 I mean, I love schools telling us about indoctrination, um, but, uh, he wasn't indoctrinating.
00:16:43.840 He was just praying and, uh, they fired him for it and, uh, he's fought for seven years.
00:16:50.780 Didn't you?
00:16:52.220 Yeah.
00:16:52.700 We're going into the ninth football season now.
00:16:55.740 Jeez.
00:16:56.600 Jeez.
00:16:57.100 So for seven years, he fought this, uh, and, um, he won in the Supreme court and now you
00:17:04.100 have your job back.
00:17:05.040 And I'm, I'm really shocked, Joe, that you, you wanted your job back.
00:17:09.340 Um, yeah, well, you know, that's a tough decision, but, but it really is the principle of it.
00:17:15.540 You know, um, they drug their feet and, you know, made this go on for so long that, you
00:17:22.380 know, it's kind of the principle that I have to go back at least one more time to take one
00:17:26.720 more knee on that 50 yard line and thank God for everything we've been through.
00:17:31.100 So, um, you're coming up now, this will be the next year.
00:17:36.440 Cause you didn't play with the team this year.
00:17:38.260 Did you?
00:17:39.480 No, that was correct.
00:17:40.640 Yeah.
00:17:40.740 The 2023 season.
00:17:42.700 And, um, what's the reception been like?
00:17:46.560 Well, I wish I could say it was all warm and fuzzy.
00:17:49.520 Uh, some of the people that I've met, um, that I, I used to know up at the school when
00:17:54.320 I was doing my paperwork, they were very cordial, but kind of standoffish.
00:17:58.880 Um, everybody else is like walking on eggshells.
00:18:01.960 Uh, I wish they would just open their arms and say, Hey, welcome back night.
00:18:05.920 And we could all just move on and, you know, focus on our football program.
00:18:09.580 But yeah, I haven't got that warm, fuzzy feeling yet.
00:18:13.080 And why do you think that is?
00:18:16.080 You know, I, I wish people could talk more often instead of just, you know, taking work
00:18:20.900 combat the superintendent and myself, we always said we were not going to take it personal.
00:18:26.240 Well, this is going to be something that was left up to the judges to figure out what our
00:18:30.400 constitutional rights are.
00:18:32.320 So him and I are great, but everybody else seemed to have just taken a sign and dig their
00:18:37.400 heels in and, and feel like they just lost something.
00:18:41.080 And I'm like, you just gained your, your first amendment rights.
00:18:45.100 You'd have more religious liberty.
00:18:46.860 You have more freedom of speech now more than ever in your lifetime.
00:18:51.560 So why aren't we all celebrating this?
00:18:54.200 It's really crazy when the people win against the King and the King is, uh, uh, celebrated,
00:19:03.060 uh, and not the individual it's, it is nuts.
00:19:06.720 It's an upside down world.
00:19:09.020 Absolutely.
00:19:09.540 Well, I'm glad you got your job back.
00:19:12.320 I just wanted to check in and just hear some good news, um, and, uh, and wish you all the
00:19:18.400 best of luck, but thanks for checking in with me, Joe.
00:19:21.520 Hey, I really appreciate it.
00:19:23.340 And, uh, hopefully I'll get you a book here real soon and, uh, have you sign it, buddy.
00:19:27.560 Oh yeah.
00:19:28.080 Anytime, anytime.
00:19:29.200 Hey, Joe, let me ask you, um, the, um, uh, if you had to do it all over again, would you
00:19:35.000 do it?
00:19:36.140 Was it worth it?
00:19:36.760 Oh, absolutely.
00:19:38.020 Yeah, absolutely.
00:19:39.220 You know, going through it sucked and, you know, I never want anybody or myself to go
00:19:43.260 through something like it, but, you know, fighting for the first amendment, some things are just
00:19:48.100 absolutely 100% worth fighting for.
00:19:51.000 And I will take shots all day long for years, the rest of my life, just to make sure freedom
00:19:56.200 is here in America.
00:19:57.740 Yeah.
00:19:58.160 What's crazy is getting to know you.
00:19:59.960 You're not like a guy who can quote the Bible and everything else.
00:20:03.740 So you're, I mean, you're, you're like a normal person that just wanted to pray and, uh, found
00:20:11.420 themselves in this hurricane.
00:20:12.640 It's crazy, but glad you came out the other side.
00:20:15.420 Absolutely crazy.
00:20:16.080 We're stronger because of you, Joey.
00:20:17.420 Appreciate it.
00:20:17.980 Thank you.
00:20:18.660 Thanks, man.
00:20:19.240 You bet.
00:20:19.760 Bye-bye.
00:20:20.880 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:20:23.600 Yesterday, uh, we had Missy Robinson on, uh, and she was talking about something that
00:20:31.320 she had, uh, experienced in Tennessee and she mentioned that Riley Gaines was there.
00:20:36.940 Uh, and this is the, um, this is the 12 time NCAA all American swimmer who's been speaking
00:20:44.960 out against, you know, guys competing as women in women's sports.
00:20:50.140 It's just, it's ridiculous what we're doing to women in the name of women.
00:20:56.600 We're letting guys swim.
00:20:58.800 It's just insanity anyway.
00:21:01.440 Um, and I was thinking about Riley and I don't know if we've ever had her on Riley.
00:21:04.920 Are you there?
00:21:06.040 I'm here.
00:21:06.860 How are you doing?
00:21:07.660 Very good.
00:21:08.460 Have I ever had you on?
00:21:10.300 No, you haven't actually.
00:21:11.980 Jeez.
00:21:12.260 I don't know why.
00:21:12.920 Um, I just wanted to, I just, I wanted some good news at the end of the week and some
00:21:17.820 people who are standing up and, uh, and you were brought up yesterday and I thought I wanted
00:21:23.240 to just say thank you to you, Riley.
00:21:26.520 Well, you know, what's actually so funny is it's, um, it's been one year exactly since
00:21:33.440 Leah Thomas competed against the women at our NCAA championships.
00:21:36.280 And so this week I'm actually at the NCAA championships watching, um, my teammates, my
00:21:41.460 old teammates and stuff.
00:21:42.480 And let me tell you, I have had so many female swimmers, parents, coaches come up to me and
00:21:50.120 say the exact same thing, which I think is really important because it shows how the true
00:21:55.740 majority of people, especially the ones who are directly impacted feel about this.
00:22:01.180 So I, I'm so grateful.
00:22:03.540 It's so crazy that it requires courage to speak up about this insanity, but I appreciate your
00:22:09.240 thanks.
00:22:10.060 Well, so let me ask you, um, where are these people?
00:22:14.460 Cause I am convinced every day that people know the truth.
00:22:20.040 They know they may not, you know, they, they may not be right on the truth, but pretty much
00:22:26.220 our common sense gut is pretty good.
00:22:29.040 And this stuff that's going on in almost all fronts, people are not for, but they won't
00:22:36.180 say anything.
00:22:38.120 Absolutely.
00:22:39.240 People are scared.
00:22:40.700 Um, coming from my experience and talking to other athletes again, who were directly impacted
00:22:46.320 their universities, the links, these universities are going to silence their voices.
00:22:52.740 It's actually really scary.
00:22:54.860 Um, how are they doing it?
00:22:56.020 Well, based off my conversations with Leah Thomas's teammates who dealt with this every
00:23:03.080 day, um, when they were concerned about sharing a locker room with someone who possessed and
00:23:09.480 was exposing male genitalia and they sent an email to their school, you know, expressing
00:23:13.760 their concern, their administration responded back with, if you feel uncomfortable seeing
00:23:18.120 male genitalia, here are some counseling resources that you should seek.
00:23:21.480 They were forced to go to mandatory LGBTQ meetings every week.
00:23:25.760 They were told that their school, that they were not allowed to, to use their voice because
00:23:29.540 their school has already taken their stance for them.
00:23:31.980 They were told that they were responsible if any harm comes towards Leah Thomas's way.
00:23:36.900 And so they're emotionally blackmailing and threatening and intimidating their swimmers.
00:23:42.820 Um, which is, which, like I said, it's terrifying.
00:23:47.040 Um, this is a country that thrives because we have so many freedoms, one of which being the
00:23:51.480 freedom of speech.
00:23:52.160 And we, I'm seeing that being taken away from these swimmers, from the parents, from people
00:23:57.840 within the administration, from medical professionals, even.
00:24:00.800 Oh, I know.
00:24:02.040 That's terrifying.
00:24:02.880 The medical professionals that are being silenced now, it's absolutely horrifying what is going
00:24:10.820 to happen.
00:24:11.320 That is, that is the way to get groupthink, uh, in your medical profession.
00:24:17.780 And when groupthink happens, we've seen it happen, uh, in the past before, and it never
00:24:23.960 leads to anything but nightmares.
00:24:26.760 No, you're a hundred percent right.
00:24:29.300 It's almost as if I feel like we're living in this George Orwell dystopian novel where
00:24:35.660 they're trying to make us say two plus two is five, but we know two plus two is not five,
00:24:41.500 but yet we have a sitting Supreme Court justice who can't even say what a woman is, um, because
00:24:47.640 she's not a biologist.
00:24:48.780 But guess what?
00:24:49.880 Neither am I, neither are you, but we still know what a woman is.
00:24:53.760 Yeah.
00:24:53.900 We know what womanhood entails.
00:24:55.620 We know the differences between men and women, and to deny that is denying science.
00:25:00.760 It's denying common sense and logic and all the things.
00:25:04.320 So how do you feel about, um, I think it wasn't at a Catholic school where, uh, they said they
00:25:12.580 didn't want to be in a, in a locker room with, uh, boys.
00:25:16.520 And so they, the game was canceled and now they're, they're not allowed to compete.
00:25:21.040 Right.
00:25:22.500 That right there shows you why more people aren't speaking up because this, this team,
00:25:28.640 they were very straightforward about how this goes against what they think the women's
00:25:34.860 sporting category was created for.
00:25:36.740 And now they're barred from other competition.
00:25:38.740 Um, there's another girl in Vermont actually who spoke out.
00:25:43.040 She's 14.
00:25:43.840 She's in high school.
00:25:45.680 Same thing.
00:25:46.500 She had a transgender individual on her volleyball team and she spoke out and she was immediately
00:25:50.420 suspended from her high school.
00:25:52.300 Her dad was immediately fired from his job.
00:25:55.400 Um, they tried to force her to write an apology to allow her back into school to which she refused
00:26:00.140 and then announced, of course, she's filing a lawsuit to which the school quickly let her
00:26:03.940 back in.
00:26:05.700 It's amazing.
00:26:06.520 I have to tell you, um, Riley, you, you don't know this, um, now, but you're young enough
00:26:13.640 to where you will live to the other side of this.
00:26:16.620 Um, you, you and people like you are going to be remembered as real heroes in this time.
00:26:24.280 Uh, depending on how it goes, um, how bad it has to get before we wake up, the, the bigger
00:26:32.320 of the statue they'll make of people like you, but it happens every time you, you hold to
00:26:38.880 your values while the country loses its mind and goes over a cliff.
00:26:44.320 It eventually comes back and it's usually not in, in that person's lifetime.
00:26:50.300 Um, but, uh, they are remembered as leaders and well, I think what you said is perfect.
00:26:59.440 A perfect analogy of what's happening is, is we've swung too far the pendulum.
00:27:04.000 We have far exceeded what is sane.
00:27:07.660 Um, and I believe we're in the process of hopefully restoring that pendulum to normalcy.
00:27:14.200 Um, but I get told all the time, you know, you will be on the wrong side of history because
00:27:18.920 you're not inclusive, you're not being kind, but guess what?
00:27:21.740 Affirming these people, um, these, these males who want to identify as women and infiltrate
00:27:27.000 into our one sex protected spaces, that is not kind.
00:27:31.020 And that is not inclusive.
00:27:32.740 Um, we are not helping these individuals.
00:27:35.080 We are harming them with women being the collateral damage in the process.
00:27:39.640 Big time.
00:27:40.780 So if you had advice to give to somebody to stand up, uh, cause I, you know, I, if I were
00:27:46.960 leading a, uh, uh, if I were a coach, I'd be a very bad coach, but if I, if I were a coach,
00:27:53.060 I would, um, I would make the case girls, this is much more important than any award we could
00:28:01.600 ever win.
00:28:02.920 Um, what, what is, what would you, what advice would you give to, uh, you know, anybody who
00:28:09.340 is in this situation and not speaking out?
00:28:12.220 Um, first and foremost, I think it's crucial that parents, coaches, the people who are
00:28:18.300 supposed to be protecting us, um, even me last year in the situation, I was 21 when all
00:28:24.120 this happened, I was adult, an adult, but I felt like someone was supposed to be protecting
00:28:28.960 us in which there were, you know, like I said, parents, coaches, people within the NCAA, these
00:28:34.220 are the people who need to use their voice.
00:28:37.100 Um, then of course it comes to the female athletes, just like you said, and it took me
00:28:41.980 a while to realize this, there is so much at stake when we're denying the sheer essence
00:28:49.520 of humanity, man and woman, we have got to be willing to stand firm and what that is and
00:28:56.140 what our differences are and how we deserve to be recognized and celebrated because when
00:29:02.060 we allow one man, one man into our spaces, this is a slippery slope.
00:29:08.140 It's only a matter of time before one male national champion becomes three and then five
00:29:14.000 and so on and so forth.
00:29:15.400 And people will take advantage of the system that we have in place.
00:29:18.380 It's happening in prisons.
00:29:20.180 Um, just in California in the recent weeks, there's been 1200 men applied to be in women's
00:29:25.160 prisons because of course you get to be housed with women.
00:29:28.200 And these women are, these men are convicted of heinous things like rape and child pornography
00:29:32.880 and kidnapping, but yet they're going to live with women because they say they are one.
00:29:38.180 We have to be bold.
00:29:39.620 We have to stand true.
00:29:40.760 We have to stay educated on the topic.
00:29:42.500 And I hate saying that because it makes me sound like some sort of advocate or activist.
00:29:47.720 Um, but it's important.
00:29:49.580 We have to know that this is happening to believe the narrative that this is a non-issue that cannot
00:29:54.620 be further from the truth.
00:29:56.280 If I could list off examples for the next hour of the radio show, but I don't want to,
00:30:00.040 I don't want to bore you guys.
00:30:02.380 Um, but it's important to stay educated and to use your voice, be bold, stand firm and your
00:30:07.700 values, because like I said previously, this is the majority who feels the exact way I'm
00:30:13.020 speaking.
00:30:14.680 Riley.
00:30:15.600 Um, I don't know if you know this, but I collect history and, um, uh, I've learned one
00:30:22.880 thing and that is there's been people in my life, uh, during, during my life that have
00:30:28.820 done remarkable things.
00:30:29.880 And I have missed the opportunity to record, uh, that, um, and, uh, I, I don't want to miss
00:30:37.980 those.
00:30:38.360 You are one of those people I think that are important to our history.
00:30:42.600 Um, I would love for you to, if you could just even a page, uh, just handwrite out your
00:30:49.440 thoughts of why you stood and what you were standing for.
00:30:53.080 Um, so I could, I could include it in our museum and I'd love to have you come down at
00:30:57.560 some point and do a, a podcast with me.
00:31:00.320 You're great.
00:31:00.900 Well, that sounds absolutely incredible.
00:31:02.820 And I would be up for that anytime.
00:31:04.700 And I, I really appreciate you having me on and just continuing to shed light on this
00:31:09.760 really important and detrimental issue.
00:31:13.200 Riley.
00:31:13.740 Thank you.
00:31:14.720 God bless.
00:31:15.980 Yes.
00:31:16.320 Thanks.
00:31:16.800 Amen.