Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Rob Collins & Riaz Patel ｜ 4⧸27⧸22
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On today's show, we talk about the border, the mess, and we talk to one of the attorney generals who filed suit against the stay in Mexico doctrine, also we talk a little bit about russia, and does it feel like maybe we are giving too much information to the press on how we are helping them blow things up? It seems like we are begging russia to start a war directly with us. Of course, more news on Elon Musk and Riaz Patal, an old friend of the program, and one of my favorite honest people.
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hello you sick twisted freak welcome to the program on today's show we talk about the border
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and the mess and we talked to one of the attorney generals who filed suit it was heard in the
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supreme court yesterday i don't know if it went real well but trying to get the stay in mexico
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doctrine reinstated also we talk a little bit about russia and you know does it feel like maybe
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we're giving too much information to the press on how we're helping ukraine blow things up
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it seems like we're begging russia to start a war directly with us it's what it seems like
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it kind of it kind of does of course more news on elon musk and riaz patal an old friend of the
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program one of the more honest people i know starting something to connect with people that
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you're listening to the best of the glenbeck program
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this is the glenbeck program welcome tonight on my wednesday night special a detailed look at the war
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on gender and the dark money network that's driving it what we're witnessing is um is something that
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was the seeds were planted a long time ago gender ideology uh and this is not spreading because of
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you know natural pollinization this is there this there are bees pollinizing uh giving pollen to
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everywhere they possibly can to make these things grow and uh those bees have been very very busy
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uh it's dangerous ideology combined with super wealthy progressives corporations are involved
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waking and making its way through the body of america dark money network the funding
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of the war on gender tonight only on blaze tv it's my special at 9 p.m we'll see you there 9 p.m blaze tv
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now i have been talking to you about a parallel economy and i want to bring to you different things
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that people are doing to help and we are playing a a nasty game of catch-up uh i talked about the tides
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foundation what 15 years ago the tides foundation this this network of money uh his just is astounding
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as you will see tonight on what the left is doing and it's all shady i don't want to be involved in
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anything shady but i do want to stop giving my money to places that are not helping there is a new credit
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card uh that is coming out and i i want to make sure i understand it uh the credit card it's a credit
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card for conservatives it's called coin c-o-i-g-n uh and rob collins is the guy who's launching this he's
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the founder rob how are you sir i'm good thanks for having me on this is a real honor long time
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listener so i really appreciate uh being on your show so people so they know who you are you founded
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the american action network you ran the national republican senatorial campaign in 2014 which was a
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good year you also were the confirmation sherpa uh for um neil gorsuch with donald trump okay so
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so you've been around you know the game that everybody is playing tell me what's happening here
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with coin well as you just described i spent a lot of time of my 20s 30s in politics and um you know
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um invested a lot of of that energy i had to to help win elections and i loved it and it was great but
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you know i just started to see that while while politics is critical and that's how we make our
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policies we got to start innovating in the private sector you know we got to start disrupting the
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model because it is so skewed against you know 40 50 million americans that if we don't innovate in
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the private sector we're never going to be able to catch up i mean the tide center tide foundation as
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you said you know the top 10 credit cards have given it over a million and a half dollars and uh let
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me assure you there is no analogous contribution for no i think no thanks think differently than
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the tide center and conservatives just have been left out and and our voices you know sometimes they
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rise up and we've seen that in the last week but generally it's just a dull murmur because we're
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spread throughout the credit system um you know we we talk about it we complain to one another
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but for the largest ideological group in america we're out of the public square you know we have to
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whisper even amongst ourselves about things that we don't like and this is just a way for folks who
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like to talk about it or folks who are just quiet but want to give back to know two things one uh with
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coin you're going to get a great credit card you're going to 1 cash back all the protections visa all the
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stuff you expect from every other credit card you're at but every time you swipe coin the company our
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company will take a piece of the merchant fee and contribute it to conservative charities
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and we're going to have a system where uh folks will be able to vote and feel like you know hey i
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actually i did something they asked me to do something i got my card i used it and then you
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know once a quarter that we're going to have four or five charities we'll put up for uh vote and and i
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voted for a charity and they got you know 40 50 000 to do good things that i really support and
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you know next time we'll have some different charities but you know our biggest thing is is trying to
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help people find that voice again and find that collective action that says hey um you know
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listen to us and also feel good that their commerce is investing in things that they believe in
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i i think that's really important i i'm very concerned about um the esg standards and the banking
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community and and this is still tied to the banking community right you're using mastercard and visa
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as your your backbone right well you know yes i mean just disrupting is hard you can't you know i
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know believe me i can't see yeah you can't see 50 years of control to the left and say we like it
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back please you know what they right you know i can tell you i mean we have true patriots who as
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investors uh who because we went to the respectable places we went to the venture funds and uh and they say
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you would start by saying hey we have a you know 40 of the american public that's looking for
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something we have the market research and they'd say great and we'd say conservative and they'd say
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not interested so i mean that's crazy yeah i mean these are you know conservatives longer tenure in
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their job own their own home own their own car married you know they're there they are the cream of
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the credit crop and yet we have we would we would get our doors the door slammed in our face because
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we'd say the c word so we so we we had to go uh to to really to to people who who understand the
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movement and are willing to invest in parallel economy right uh startups and if it wasn't for
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them i wouldn't be on your show today so that's just the reality of where we are what is the what is
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the main goal you see this in five years what what is your hope that this turns into
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um a we can we can donate tens of millions hundreds of millions of dollars to conservative
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charities now wait hang on just a second when you say conservative charities what kind of charities
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are you for i know it's going to be up for a vote but are you thinking uh for instance uh like first
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liberty ones that are defending things in the court or you know like uh you know something that is going
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to rescue people i i think there's two ways to look at it which is you know we'd love to have
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people suggest charities on our we launched yesterday and we've already had you know probably
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30 or 40 emails with people saying hey consider this one yeah um so we'd like to have a rotation
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and we'd like to have you know broad categories um you know you know we like i i heard earlier you
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were talking about uh tunnels to towers i mean we we'd love to partner with great veterans charities
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that aren't afraid of conservatives um education uh religious freedom um smaller smarter government
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uh conservation you know kind of offer folks because you know you know we want to have a
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broad spectrum but we want to rotate out the charities you know we'd love to find smaller charities
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that are starting up and give them a little boost but also support bigger ones you know i mean we're
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not you know we really the biggest thing for us is we want to make sure we're conservative
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and we want to make sure that if our folks you know coin money is going our customers might
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that they deliver they they're transparent you know uh the the that the charity rating firm said
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these are good charities and that they that they really that the roi for our folks is tangible
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that's really important to us so how do people get involved in with uh coin uh you can go to our
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website uh coign.com coin.com and uh like us on you know whatever social media you know facebook
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we're all over the place and just try to and then just tell your friends i mean instead of saying you
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know under uh you know buying closed doors isn't this so terrible like tell your friends join this and
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let's you know let's start let's have an open conversations and let's get back kind of where we've
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always been as a country which is a you can speak your mind but also you don't have you know the
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corporations funding causes that like it's not enough that they want they push their own world
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view they don't like us and they're trying to push us out yeah and and and you know indoctrinate our
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kids and tell us what to think and how to act when it should be you know what like you're a customer of
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ours and we respect you not you should respect us i know that we have um you know we have a sponsor
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patriot mobile and they've done the same thing they're on the same cell tower so they're they're
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renting space from these big guys so they could provide the coverage but i know i'm a member
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because i don't want to give the big cell companies any of my money i know i have to you know patriot
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mobile is paying them a little bit for the space on the tower but at this point that's the best option
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we have i want to stop giving these people money uh and this is a just like patriot mobile this is
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another way to do it uh with your credit card so if you have visa mastercard or anything uh you might
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want to consider today going to coin.com that's c o i g n any reason why you spelled it that way other
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than because you couldn't get coin.com you nailed it okay all right we we wanted it we wanted a short
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clean website we wanted a short clean name and we know we'll have a little little name building to do
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but uh uh just you know we like the alliteration yeah coin card for conservatives coin c o i g n.com
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coin.com rob thank you very much let us know how it's going we'd love it thank you appreciate it
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you bad bye-bye this is the best of the glenn beck program and we really want to thank you for
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uh diamond blount is uh somebody that was convicted of uh rape uh and uh diamond is like okay well
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you know that's that was before i became diamond you know that's when i was ramel
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blount okay now i'm diamond and so a judge in new york so your your entire criminal record should
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be wiped out right well maybe maybe i mean he she did go to prison for rape oh but because
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he was now identifying as a woman he was housed in the women's facility oh good this i you know this
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is one of those things we've always used as an example of the absurd possibilities if this were
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to continue and no it's good to know that it is actually happening in real life yeah so while he was
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a resident i love that a resident of the rose m singer center the section of the prison not a
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prisoner but a resident a resident it was a section of the prison uh maybe it had drapes and everything
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else and maybe sewing machines for the women you know the women folk they like kitchens like diamond
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you know like diamond sure um but apparently uh diamond also likes to violently rape women in a
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bathroom diamond does diamond are you talking about ramel no diamond because ramel did do that
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but you're not saying diamond did it as well diamond did it as well wow what are the odds
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what are the odds no i both they're both related i mean they're both named blunt i think they're i think
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they're both related um but uh what's the odds that both of them violently raped women i don't think
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the percentage chances of this occurring would be anything over a hundred percent well well i have
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to tell you i i would like to i'd like to side with you but i don't know the lesbian experience right
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you're you're not well versed in that no because you are not because i'm not a lesbian well i actually
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am a lesbian i am only attracted to women so i think maybe that no so that was rape okay next story uh
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that just doesn't seem to make sense to me cnn executives when they started their streaming
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platform that lasted a full four weeks i'd like to spend the time counting but it's just too one two
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three it's just too high of a number to spend that kind of time counting the weeks um they um
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the cnn executives thought that they could attract 30 million global subscriptions
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because they they broke this apparently there's a memo with this uh 29 million cnn super fans
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they're they believe there are 29 they believed believe hard d hard there's a hard stop on that one
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yeah uh they believed that 20 there were 29 million super fans now
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i don't know where they come up with that number uh but most of those super fans feel trapped at the
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airport uh just saying right they are in a very long delay to go to albuquerque yes and cnn happens
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to be on the television that does not make a super fan no it doesn't even make a person who wants to
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watch max right it isn't even in people who would what would be enticed to watch it for free no
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they're certainly not going to pay for it no no no and i if you had to make an honest guest a guess
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of the number legitimately the number of cnn super fans and you were in that meeting and they were
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saying this no joking around what would you place that number at 8300
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yeah i would say i would say super fans globally globally i would say less than 100 000
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much less than 100 000 you have to include the insane you have way more people the insane people
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don't i'm not saying trash about them no i'm not saying all insane i'm saying there's a subset
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of insane people there may the insane people of the world may be more likely to delve into the
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world of cnn plus but they are not exclusively right well the problem is all of those people
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subscribed they just they just did it in their imaginary world right so those super fans are
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still enjoying cnn plus the fact that they had a legitimate estimate or not a legitimate estimate
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but an estimate that someone provided them that they would have 30 million subscribers is crime
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you know i think they're blaming mckenzie for this the the consulting outfit which is one of the
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most you know world-renowned you know were they the ones that came up with 29 million i've heard them
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blamed for it i don't know for sure if it was them but that is who is at least getting the yeah well
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shade from uh inside sources sure well you can't blame any of the people working at cnn
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no you know they're above approach well as you know glenn we at this time do not have enough
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information to judge whether this was a success i heard that from the potato i heard that you heard
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a potato say i think it was a potato it was a potato in a suit an ill-fitting suit really yeah
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and he was like we can't really judge you know if this is a success or not how could one know how
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what information has been provided to make a determination 300 million dollars spent
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uh no real subscribers and other than this though and the fact that it's been shut down already what
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what what what information do we have as to judge whether it was other than those things we don't
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we don't have any so it's too early to know i think my that my thought is by the year 2318
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we will have a a beginning of the understanding as to whether cnn plus was a success or failure sure
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it's going to take that much time yeah this is just too important a project the most important
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thing cnn has done since its launch it's at least 75 years before we can get to that i mean they've got
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as much information as the cdc yeah and the fda it's we gotta wait never gonna um so uh hiko kondo
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from japan has just married hatsume miku which uh is lovely uh she's a fictional computer synthesizer
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pop singer um and uh he was very disappointed because he said no one in his family showed up for
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the wedding you're kidding me and i would just wow like to say that's one of the first things that's
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come out of japan that has made sense to me in uh quite quite a long time quite a long time i think
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i think that's the way we should be you know we should in america i'm i'm not so sure that would
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happen i think a lot of people would go you don't you don't want to hurt his feelings you don't you
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don't deny that that is a fictional character and just on his computer that's his love we gotta bet
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love wins always love wins see i think i would get if if that invitation came in the mail my wife would
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say oh we're not going to that and i would say are you kidding me i gotta see this i've got to be a
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part of this situation i would go with you under that guys i'd be like yeah oh oh she's there's
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material for weeks where are you guys where are you guys going on your honeymoon and they should he
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should have invited us yeah we would have come i would have flown to japan to watch that thing
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happen that would have been a fun ceremony well here's one uh a man with nine wives nine wives
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nine nine wives uh he has just been married uh crazily in a church in brazil um and uh he says that um
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he just has a sexual appetite that just can't be satiated uh with just one wife uh he sounds like
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a dream come true really um and so he tried to you know have sex by appointment but he said that was
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just too difficult because there were times that he was thinking about the other girl and then he
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wanted to be you know her and it would be easier you just kind of pick on demand right you do walk in
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that's what select it's like when you walk into uh you know uh 7-eleven they have a bunch of
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different flavors yeah of monster energy drinks you don't want to have just one that you would
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schedule in advance i don't always have cool ranch doritos right you might want nacho cheese you
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might want spicy nacho you might want that spicy chili which is spicy sweet chili which is delicious
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yeah it's really good sometimes i you know i i just want a candy bar you know
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and you should be able to have whatever you want whenever whenever whenever asterisk within the
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bounds of holy matrimony that is a really important thing i don't want it would be really a bad thing
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if people decided they could just have sex outside of marriage when this is going on instead marry as
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many people as you can and then just rotate through that's the that's the it's the godly way of doing
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it i think it's gonna last well now i should say he married uh-huh he married eight he's already
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lost one no yes he lost one yeah she on second thought you know when she sobered up uh she thought
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i might have had too much communion wine here oh really i yeah i don't i thought they were my
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bridesmaids uh and apparently no they were all his wife this is why you marry fictional characters
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yeah they always stick around yeah and they don't see you could delete them right yeah i mean they're gone
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i want to welcome back a very good friend of the program somebody if you're a long-time listener of
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this uh program uh you might remember riaz patal he is now the founder of connect effect he is a tv
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producer a two-time emmy nominee couldn't get it done huh martha stewart both times and she wasn't
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even there she wasn't there um but uh uh he's also a guy that i think we met in 2015 or 2016
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and um there was a shooting you're a muslim uh you're a gay man and there was a shooting and you
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were you know the media was telling you this is really this is what's happening and then trump came
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along and you're like okay i gotta know what's really going on yeah and you went up to alaska
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yeah uh and said i just want to meet these people because i can't live in a world if that's really
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what i'm surrounded by yes and you found out that's not not remotely not remotely that 50
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percent of the population are not the cliche that i was led to believe they're actually real human
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beings and we had such a great time getting together i still follow you on instagram we we
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chat from time to time but um the the thing that always strike uh struck me was how honest you always
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were you were really looking for information you weren't trying to prove anything you just wanted
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to know what the truth was and how different our understanding of the news was because you lived
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in your world yes and i lived in my world and i remember putting things up on the chalkboard and
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you said none of those things happen not none of those things i knew about yeah not at all big stories
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to conservatives it was weird never and it used to be the strangest thing when i would come here and
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visit you that i'd get on the plane and leave the la feeds and arrive here completely different news
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completely different stories and i'm like this is insane they're two different worlds so you've been
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trying to bridge the gap yeah uh for a long time uh and we talked about shows where you could
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actually talk things have only gotten worse yes absolutely and i think that was the big problem was
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the screen world and i call it the screen world all the edits that magically appear for us on our phone
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is the screen world is not the real world it's a very particular point of view and very highly edited
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and so to me for seven years what is the truth and every time i would bring people together
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seven people ten people fifty people in alaska or dallas or new york they were never the cliches
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that i was led to believe and i constantly was wondering how do they connect and why wouldn't they
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connect and really it came down to the power of the screen world is now the way we see the world
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not people can be standing in front of us and we cannot see them or their humanity because we see
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them through the edits that we think we know about it is really terrifying because that's you know
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we were talking off the air children's suicide and depression is off the charts i unbelievable
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unbelievable and uh i think it's because of this there's nothing real you don't really know people
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there's no re and covet only made it worse no real connections going on connect and that's the
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thing it's so funny everyone seems to be lacking true authentic connection and the thing that i
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realized over seven years is that true connection is not remotely information based even if we're all
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living in an information age that the words we exchange are seven percent of communication it's
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the body language it's the tone it's all of those things that create humanity none of those you get
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from a screen you just get the words which is why sequentially posting at each other gets us
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absolutely nowhere fast and so i kept trying to think what is a way to do this to hard reset
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actually physical people in a room so that they can see each other and not see the edits that they
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think they know about each other and that took seven years of testing and testing and testing how
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are you how are you going to do this so it's called connect effect and what it is it's an in-person
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it's an entertainment experience and it's designed that way because i reached out to a policy institute
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and they said everything we're doing about bridging and facilitated conversations not working
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people just show up with more information and they just keep exchanging it and no one actually
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listens and no one actually learns or is impacted so it was how can i get people in a physical room
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and we do 50 to 100 people at a time to really see each other the people in the room the real world
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and not the screen world not seeing each other through the screen world and it takes
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it's a hard reset of their humanity so how do you do that because you i would think that you would
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depending on where you are you would have a lot of conservatives show up and some very timid liberals
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or a lot of liberals show up and some very timid conservatives and you would fight an agenda yes
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you know what i mean so how do you how do you how are you getting that the thing is the actual connect
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effect what it is is this is that when you connect with someone in a meaningful in-person way in person
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human to human you'll talk openly and honestly it's how we met when we sat down opposite each other
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in 2016 and i came with my information we just looked at each other and we're like oh you're just a
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human being who wants to know yeah once you have that connection you'll talk openly and honestly
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when you talk openly and honestly you will understand and that understanding deepens the connection
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that's the connect effect right now people are talking without the connection and it's just this
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exchanging of information but so they don't talk first they sit back and from the moment the doors
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open there's music there's images on the screen two sides of stories that people have never seen
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whether it's edits they've seen in the news oh yeah that's what cnn ran that's what fox side by
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side and it constantly says which edit do you see which edit do you not see and we're constantly
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running through history here's an edit you do know an edit so before we even start the program
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they're seeing you're only that they're only seeing one edit and so it would i would imagine it's
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very important to let the audience know that you're not trying to change them politically not at all
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you're just trying to say you don't know the whole story you don't know the whole story and
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the whole story doesn't necessarily even matter when you are trying to fix things in your world
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you and i did a podcast special a while ago where we brought seven americans together to talk about
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guns and it was so great and they just spiraled and spiraled until the nra firearms instructor and the
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moms demand action woman spent time together made a joke and suddenly all the defenses were gone
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because they had connected and then they talked openly they understood and they realized that
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we're 90 there yeah but when they were all in a room guarded with their information before we started
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it we were both concerned this could be a nightmare absolutely and by the end i think the marxist
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professor was like this was great yeah yeah because they stopped seeing each other through the
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screens and the screens come at you all day every day and the way the screens work is for attention
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extraction is what they call it at google that's all they're doing and so whatever you like they'll
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send you more of it if you're angry about this they'll send you more because the real facts are
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that anger makes money the easiest shift to create in a human being is anger yeah what travels faster
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than any virus fear and so if the screens are constantly making you feel the world is burning
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constantly then you are never going to be able to connect but they make cha-ching cha-ching cha-ching more
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money the more you're watching and so we hard reset the shared humanity of the people in the room and
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it's very interesting because at some point they start realizing wait i was gonna say that but i only
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know that from a screen and so we sell data people talk about what you know did you work on the front
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line of covid great tell us about that if you didn't it's your time to sit back and listen because
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you received a screen edit that was designed to make you upset and angry to look at more to look at
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more to look at more to look at more ads and so i'm trying to get people the amazing thing is when
00:32:45.300
people meet in the real world they're constantly engaging each other with what they know from the
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screen which has little to no relevance to the person that they're talking to um you the first
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one is happening where in orange orange county this saturday april 30th um i'm working with an
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organization called civic genius and i really was i was relentless when i was finding a partner that
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they did not have a political affiliation because i cannot tell someone what the way they should think
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i don't live their life i haven't lived their lives thousands and thousands of days as them
00:33:13.460
that's not it's actually not the i shouldn't say that the problem is people who are trying to
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tell people what to think not how to think what to think you will believe this i don't care what
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side it's on you believe this and there's no compromise you must believe this or you are bad bad
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that it's that's what's killing us yeah that's what's killing and when you and i met years ago i came
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in with this perception of what i thought you were and when we sat the humanity clicked in and we were
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able to talk and all i want the whole point of this is i just want people to stop fighting in their
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families and stop fighting in their communities because if you can't sit down with the people in your
00:33:53.360
community to solve your problems no one wins so what age group are you this is mostly 18 and over
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but 18 to 80 it can be anyone and um uh and when you go um do you have to participate or can you just
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watch you can you can so everyone sits and it's everything is designed the way the seats are set
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up the way the screen works it's all highly highly highly produced so everyone sits in this very large
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you so there's no hiding in the back but how people like an aa meeting it's like you can't go
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anywhere you must stay but you not everyone speaks and who speaks is random it's actually done
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through a way inside their pouches some people have a chip and some people don't and the people
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have blue chips have to stand up and then they have a conversation it's a way but before you're not
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speaking to i mean you are speaking in front of the whole group but you're not speaking and having
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interaction with the whole group no the whole group is kind of channeling it through different
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conversations correct correct and a lot of them we say it's one story told between two worlds one is
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the real world all of us in the room and the other is all the media we have on the screen and so the
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screen plays a large part in it with edits and media coming at the audience showing them well what
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is true because if this is true on the screen it can't be true in the real world and we're constantly
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juxtaposing the two and it really ends up being this mind-blowing hard reset so do you have are you
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going to have video there okay can you return maybe and and show me some video and and give me the results
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of what this happened we can we actually have two tests on the website connect effect.us under
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testimonials okay one we took women and we said if women once connected could they solve each other's
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most deep challenging question so we took these total strangers didn't know each other connected
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them and they're reading these unbelievable vulnerable questions like why am i single my
00:35:37.860
whole life why do i draw men that would abuse me and the audience helps them find the answer it's
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unbelievable it's incredible because all that happens is we have a problem we go to an expert we have a
00:35:45.940
problem we go to an expert diagnosed medicated sometimes we just need opinions of other people and
00:35:50.700
social buffering and that doesn't exist anymore so that was one test the other was at a university
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because we had students at this university afraid of each other not just physically but ideologically
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oh yeah and so we thought could we take students once connected after 60 minutes would they be open
00:36:05.800
to the other side's ideology and you look at the video they were they saw the whole thing differently
00:36:10.540
and they realized that all these people in the real world in the room are not the enemies that
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they perceive coming through the edits so how do you get people to i mean are you just traveling
00:36:20.780
the country are you asking for places to host you we are we're looking for organizations we're
00:36:26.260
looking for churches synagogues anywhere where people have stopped talking which is pretty much
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everywhere everywhere we're looking and it's not just led by me it's a system that's replicated and
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designed to be done by many people the system is called epic forbes described it was a game changer a few
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years ago it's a different way of approaching people that you have to engage through equalization
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that's the e if i don't look at you as an equal what are the point are we talking about like why am
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i talking to you if i don't think you're an equal and then beyond that the p is personalization i don't
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care what you read because whatever you read i've got you've got stats i've got stats you've got
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articles i've got articles now we go nowhere what do you know what have you experienced of racism
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what have you experienced of suffering that's what i need to know but if you keep bringing i kept
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bridging these conversations and i have seven people in the room and 480 opinions and suddenly
00:37:11.920
nancy pelosi was there and mitch mccall and i'm like why are they in the room they're certainly
00:37:15.800
not going to be helping you fix your problem in your school and so it's personalization then
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information gathering the thing i tell people stop talking about what you know we know what you know
00:37:24.640
ask people what do i not know that is the i think that is one of the real keys to if people say i can't
00:37:33.980
talk to them um or i want to just i need to change their mind if you're approaching a conversation
00:37:40.500
that way you are saying to yourself they don't have anything of value to teach me yes and when you
00:37:47.440
both exchange that just the basic thing and i don't mean stats i mean you as a person yes how did you get
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there as soon as you get there things change i always ask people why are we not cyclopses why do we
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have two eyes that do the exact same thing not even an inch and a half apart because that's the
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only way to see depth and perspective so i tell people look at the world with your view you need
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the other view to see the world in more than two dimensions you have to know what you don't know
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constantly i would come to the blaze and you and i would sit down whether we were traveling on a
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project and i would learn so much about the world that i never knew and vice versa likewise and it was
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the only way that i saw things with depth it was no longer a two-dimensional edit in the screen world
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it was three-dimensional in the real world i've been thinking about this a lot lately here we got
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to wrap up um i've been thinking about this a lot lately the the scripture there must be opposition in
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all things all of it must be we we don't want to argue and you've got to agree to one side no there
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must be opposition in all for solutions yes yes and and to see depth yes so riaz thank you so much
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