The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Rob Henderson, Bill O'Reilly & Charlie Kirk ｜ 10⧸17⧸19

00:00:00.000 Welcome to the podcast. Great, great podcast for you today.

00:00:03.780 I kind of start out with a little bit of an angry rant on the mainstream media and and and their coverage this week on several things.

00:00:15.380 Also, we talked about the cancel culture and what comes next.

00:00:19.700 We have Bill O'Reilly on with us.

00:00:21.780 He has some interesting things about Donald Trump and Rudy Giuliani and a great story about Beto.

00:00:27.700 You don't want to miss. Also, Charlie Kirk kind of made me scratch my head and think, you know what?

00:00:32.860 It might be Buddha Judge and what that means all on today's podcast.

00:00:43.440 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:00:51.960 Elijah Cummings has passed away.

00:00:54.300 Now, Elijah Cummings is is has never been a guy that I've agreed with politically, but I have had respect for Elijah Cummings and what he has accomplished in his life.

00:01:04.260 Let me just let me just give you a little bit here.

00:01:07.620 Democratic congressman from Maryland who gained national attention for his principled stands on politically charged issues in the House, his calming effect on anti-police riots in Baltimore.

00:01:16.360 He died Thursday morning at Gilchrist Hospital care, Johns Hopkins affiliate in Baltimore.

00:01:22.460 He was 68 after ongoing an unspecified medical procedure.

00:01:27.360 The Democratic leader did not return to his office this week, according to The Sun, a statement from his office as he passed away due to complications concerning a longstanding health challenge.

00:01:38.160 Mr. Cummings was the chairman of the House Oversight and Reform Committee and a leading figure in the Trump impeachment inquiry, born to a family and southern to southern sharecroppers and Baptist preachers.

00:01:50.780 He grew up in a racially fractured Baltimore in the 50s and 60s at 11 at 11.

00:01:57.340 He helped to integrate a local swimming pool while being attacked with bottles and rocks.

00:02:02.800 Perry Mason, the popular TV series about fictional defense lawyer, inspired him to enter the legal profession.

00:02:09.540 Many men in my neighborhood were going to do were going to reform school, though I didn't completely know what reform school was.

00:02:17.660 I knew that Perry Mason won a lot of cases. I also thought that these young men probably needed lawyers.

00:02:23.180 He became the youngest chairman of the Legislative Black Caucus, yada, yada, yada.

00:02:27.500 He has been a force for good much of his life.

00:02:31.200 He has also taken stands as a legislator that I disagree with.

00:02:37.300 But I just I just I think this is an insult from The Washington Post.

00:02:45.520 Washington Post.

00:02:46.600 Representative Elijah Cummings, Democratic leader, leader and regular Trump target, dies at 68.

00:03:00.280 You know, I was a target of the president.

00:03:04.860 He was a target of mine for a while.

00:03:06.860 Now, if I die today and somebody writes about that in the headline.

00:03:19.260 Really, that's what my life was worth.

00:03:21.080 My life was worth that.

00:03:25.340 I'm not 68.

00:03:26.700 He was 68.

00:03:27.780 He's done many, many things that I can't even come close to accomplishing.

00:03:33.700 And that's the way The Post honors him.

00:03:38.160 I think it's an insult.

00:03:42.540 Our condolences to his family.

00:03:44.420 And it is a loss to the country.

00:03:48.980 Now, let me talk about The Post and the mainstream media.

00:03:52.660 He was a regular Trump target?

00:03:58.740 What do you mean by that?

00:04:00.840 Are you saying the president was targeting him?

00:04:03.920 Did the president kill him?

00:04:05.820 It's an undisclosed problem.

00:04:08.460 Was he shot by the president?

00:04:10.640 Because I know we're not supposed to use the word target.

00:04:14.100 Oh, we learned our lesson, didn't we?

00:04:17.260 Mainstream media.

00:04:18.520 We don't ever use the word target as some way of saying,

00:04:23.320 Hey, we should look into this.

00:04:24.700 Or we should focus our energies here.

00:04:27.220 Or we're talking about this particular person.

00:04:30.220 No, no. 0.78

00:04:31.100 In the mainstream media, we all learned our lesson that targeting somebody only means killing them.

00:04:39.260 Now, I hope, Washington Post, that you understand by using the words target that Trump targeted him.

00:04:49.960 You are encouraging somebody out there to target him still.

00:04:55.960 I hope they have security on the gravestone because somebody might just shoot it up,

00:05:02.440 even though he's already dead because you use the word target. 0.92

00:05:09.260 Seems ridiculous, doesn't it, Washington Post? 0.88

00:05:13.920 I am so tired. 0.94

00:05:19.580 It's a waste of energy to talk about these people. 0.98

00:05:27.340 To talk about their hypocrisy. 0.96

00:05:31.520 I listened to the New York Times Daily this morning. 0.86

00:05:35.080 Blood was shooting out of my eye. 0.99

00:05:38.180 I want you to know, the only reason why I listen to it, the only reason why I read this crap, 0.98

00:05:43.840 is so you don't have to. 0.97

00:05:46.620 I want to know what the other side is saying.

00:05:49.840 I want to understand their argument.

00:05:52.220 I want to understand where they're coming from. 0.93

00:05:54.180 And they just can't see their own hypocrisy. 0.95

00:05:58.380 Go ahead. 0.99

00:05:58.980 Call me a hypocrite on anything. 0.96

00:06:00.920 Oh, Glenn Beck, he was against Donald Trump when he was running. 0.89

00:06:03.840 And now his business was falling apart.

00:06:06.440 And so he...

00:06:06.940 No, that wasn't it.

00:06:07.800 I told you during the campaign.

00:06:13.320 If the guy is doing these policies, I'll be the first to say it.

00:06:19.720 I don't sign on for everything on Donald Trump. 0.74

00:06:22.560 I think the guy is a really flawed human being.

00:06:24.920 You'll notice Donald Trump doesn't retweet anything that we've done.

00:06:30.340 He's not even mentioned the chalkboard, which is a great help to him.

00:06:36.560 You know why he doesn't?

00:06:37.920 Because he doesn't trust me.

00:06:40.800 I'm not in his pocket.

00:06:43.840 Hmm.

00:06:45.280 Isn't that a wonderful place to be?

00:06:48.960 Yes.

00:06:49.600 You know why the Washington Post doesn't like to do things?

00:06:55.400 You know why Google is changing the algorithm to keep things that I produce out of the mainstream?

00:07:05.500 Because they don't trust me.

00:07:08.160 They don't know if I'm an ally or an enemy.

00:07:11.220 What a wonderful place to be.

00:07:14.720 You know how you get there?

00:07:16.760 You call balls and strikes.

00:07:19.600 The hypocrisy this morning of the New York Times to talk about how we've been predicting this, all of the things.

00:07:34.740 I mean, honest to God, they sounded like they were all of a sudden into predictions.

00:07:40.460 We know they don't like predictions.

00:07:42.600 We know that that's conspiracy theories.

00:07:45.000 If you just take things and do math and take people at their word, you can't talk about those things.

00:07:53.140 Those are crazy ideas.

00:07:56.080 No, no, no.

00:07:57.280 Today they were talking about Syria and Turkey and how they predicted all of this.

00:08:02.020 This was so easy to see.

00:08:05.760 Really, was it?

00:08:07.540 Yeah, everybody on Earth, including the White House, saw this mess coming.

00:08:16.500 Everybody saw that.

00:08:18.880 What you'll forget is that many of us, a long time ago, in almost a dream world now, it's so far away I can't even remember it.

00:08:30.400 What was his name?

00:08:31.820 Did they even have sound and talkies in the movie theater when Barack Obama was in office?

00:08:39.160 Do you remember when some of us said, don't get into bed with these Kurds? 1.00

00:08:45.240 These Kurds are not the Kurds in Iran or, I mean, in Iraq. 0.99

00:08:51.880 These are bad Kurds. 1.00

00:08:53.880 These are communist Kurds. 1.00

00:08:56.260 These are terrorist Kurds. 1.00

00:08:58.560 And John McCain stood up and told all of us, oh, no, these are good guys.

00:09:04.620 I remember being on the air at the time saying, no, these aren't good guys. 0.92

00:09:09.500 These are bad guys, and we're going to do the same damn thing that we did in Afghanistan with Osama bin Laden. 0.98

00:09:15.720 We're going to teach them. 0.99

00:09:16.920 We're going to arm them, and they're going to turn against us. 0.96

00:09:20.740 Don't do it.

00:09:22.080 Bad.

00:09:22.980 Do you remember?

00:09:24.180 You know what?

00:09:26.100 Do you know what the New York Times actually said today?

00:09:30.120 What you have to understand is the Middle East doesn't like a vacuum.

00:09:35.860 If you destabilize, if you destabilize a region, well, somebody will grow to fill that.

00:09:45.580 Really?

00:09:46.960 Like in Egypt?

00:09:49.240 Like in Libya?

00:09:52.520 Like in Syria?

00:09:55.200 Like in Iraq and Afghanistan?

00:09:58.280 Yeah.

00:09:59.380 It only took us two countries to figure it out.

00:10:01.940 You on the left still haven't figured it out.

00:10:05.860 No, you do now.

00:10:08.080 You say you do now.

00:10:11.000 But you're only saying that because it's a way to go against Donald Trump.

00:10:16.640 If you want to go against Donald Trump, go against him on something real and something that is actually something you believe in.

00:10:24.120 Oh, we've got to stop.

00:10:25.640 We have to end these wars.

00:10:27.040 Barack Obama is so wonderful.

00:10:28.580 He wants to end these wars.

00:10:29.800 What do you mean pulling out of Iraq would cause all kinds of problems?

00:10:34.760 No, we have to.

00:10:35.780 He's just trying to bring the troops home.

00:10:38.600 Oh, and then there was problems.

00:10:40.700 Well, of course there's going to be problems, but we have to end these wars.

00:10:43.940 Here's a guy who actually is a dove.

00:10:48.780 Here's a guy his whole life.

00:10:50.800 There's two things I know Donald Trump believes.

00:10:53.100 Well, three.

00:10:54.100 Himself.

00:10:54.800 He believes in himself.

00:10:56.320 Got it.

00:10:57.640 Two.

00:10:58.500 He believes in trade wars.

00:11:00.660 Got it.

00:11:01.220 He's believed in his whole life.

00:11:03.660 Number three.

00:11:04.480 He doesn't believe in war.

00:11:06.480 His whole life he has been against almost every war we've ever seen in my lifetime.

00:11:13.660 And he's been on the record.

00:11:16.000 So he's your dove, left.

00:11:18.580 He's the one you've been looking for.

00:11:20.820 He's actually doing what Barack Obama promised he would do.

00:11:25.760 And now you don't like it?

00:11:28.860 Oh, yes, because the Middle East, you know, it doesn't like a vacuum.

00:11:35.020 Really?

00:11:35.420 Why don't you tell that to Hillary Clinton when she said, we came, we conquered, he died about Gadi, about Gadi.

00:11:44.580 What's his name in Libya?

00:11:46.860 Gaddafi.

00:11:48.300 Why don't you talk to her about that?

00:11:51.360 Why don't you talk to, why don't you talk to, what was her name, Samantha?

00:11:56.540 Samantha, she's the wife of the woman, the wife of the guy who wrote Nudge.

00:12:04.560 I haven't talked to her, talked about her for a while.

00:12:07.840 Samantha, somebody or other. 0.53

00:12:10.260 Cass Sunstein's wife.

00:12:12.300 She was the one who was pushing for the instability.

00:12:17.500 Don't talk to me about this, Google and Facebook.

00:12:20.140 You're the ones who intentionally lit the Middle East on fire. 1.00

00:12:25.380 And don't, don't say you didn't, because we know, because you were very, very proud of the role you played in the Arab Spring.

00:12:34.220 So don't, please, if you want to come to me and say, hey, we were part of this, like I will, I'll come to you.

00:12:40.560 Hey, I was actually for the war in Iraq because I know that the real danger there is Iran. 1.00

00:12:46.140 And I thought we were going to pop the head of the snake.

00:12:48.520 Well, it didn't turn out that way.

00:12:50.420 Boy, I was wrong.

00:12:51.440 Have you heard anybody in the media say that about the Arab Spring, about Libya, about Syria, about getting into bed and arming these people?

00:13:02.180 No, of course not. 0.77

00:13:03.960 Because they're all frauds.

00:13:08.380 I know why I'm listening to them.

00:13:11.020 I'm listening to them because that's part of my job.

00:13:15.140 I just don't know why other Americans still listen to them.

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00:13:40.180 On the turkey thing, can I just say this?

00:13:43.140 We all knew this was coming.

00:13:44.820 We knew this was coming. 0.99

00:13:45.700 We knew one way or another what was happening with us joining forces with really bad people would come and bite us in the ass. 1.00

00:13:54.640 Now it is biting us in the ass. 1.00

00:13:56.280 Okay. 1.00

00:13:56.940 We knew that for a decade.

00:13:59.760 So we can sit here and argue about whose fault it is.

00:14:02.660 I think it's Obama's fault and John McCain's fault for getting us there in the first place.

00:14:07.520 Others are saying, well, it's Donald Trump's fault for getting us out.

00:14:10.000 Okay, fine.

00:14:10.580 Whatever.

00:14:11.000 Whatever.

00:14:11.340 Let them argue about it.

00:14:12.580 May I suggest you just join me in doing something about it that matters.

00:14:18.920 Let's just go save these people that are in harm's way.

00:14:21.560 We have people on the ground right now.

00:14:24.340 Let's let them argue it out.

00:14:26.020 There's this.

00:14:26.740 It's like kindergarten. 1.00

00:14:29.000 Let's just do what we have to do and stop waiting around for the stupid government to do it. 1.00

00:14:35.320 You want to save these people? 1.00

00:14:38.020 We can do it.

00:14:39.240 Just join us.

00:14:40.920 Nazarenefund.org.

00:14:43.080 Read all about it.

00:14:44.060 Do your own homework.

00:14:44.820 100% of every single dollar raised goes to save these people.

00:14:49.500 We have people on the ground right now.

00:14:51.440 Was it yesterday?

00:14:52.420 We got the first, I think, 28 out.

00:14:54.660 We have people on the border.

00:14:55.840 We have people.

00:14:56.540 We've lost operatives trying to save these people.

00:14:59.660 Just help us.

00:15:02.280 Five bucks.

00:15:03.000 Five bucks a month.

00:15:05.320 Nazarenefund.org.

00:15:06.880 Just stop listening to all these arguments of it.

00:15:10.920 Let's just do something good.

00:15:13.140 All right.

00:15:13.880 We have Rob Henderson on.

00:15:15.460 He is a Gates Cambridge scholar.

00:15:17.440 And I know he's a Gates Cambridge scholar because I had to look up the second word in the headline of his story.

00:15:26.080 The atavism of cancel culture.

00:15:28.480 And I'm like, it's activism, dummy.

00:15:31.340 And then I realized that it's, no, that's actually, no, that's, it's, it's atavism.

00:15:36.540 And I had to look it up.

00:15:37.720 So he went to Yale.

00:15:39.520 I went to Yale.

00:15:40.600 He graduated.

00:15:41.800 I didn't.

00:15:42.700 I think that's the difference.

00:15:44.460 Welcome, Rob Henderson, to the program.

00:15:46.660 How are you?

00:15:48.420 Hi, Glenn.

00:15:48.980 Great.

00:15:49.360 Great to be here.

00:15:50.340 So you sound like you almost believe that, too.

00:15:53.560 Rob, the, the atavism of cancel, cancel culture.

00:15:58.940 What you're saying is, is this is something that is ancient inside of us.

00:16:03.800 It's tribal. 0.64

00:16:06.140 Right, right.

00:16:07.260 So the way I think about cancel culture is that it's rooted in some of these primitive human drives to obtain social status and in group solidarity with our peers, as well as to identify our friends and our foes.

00:16:20.720 And we generally go into tribes when we're afraid.

00:16:25.420 I mean, it is, it's human nature.

00:16:28.040 And so when we're afraid of something, we go into tribes.

00:16:31.840 And the deeper we go into the tribe, the, the more we don't listen anymore.

00:16:36.980 And, and we lose all sense of proportion and, and any sense of nuance, right?

00:16:44.960 Right.

00:16:45.720 Well, you know, tribalism is inherently human.

00:16:48.900 And so whether we're in danger or not, we do like to be around, you know, sort of, sort of our group, you know, people who we feel comfortable around.

00:16:56.440 Sure.

00:16:57.000 But when we are in danger, we are more likely to, to seek people who think like us, who behave like us, and to sort of denigrate people who we're afraid of or who don't agree with us.

00:17:08.500 So tell me what happened to you in 2016, while you were an undergrad at Yale.

00:17:13.600 Yeah, you know, Glenn, I've been concerned about cancel culture for a long time.

00:17:17.840 And, you know, I was actually in the military before I attended Yale for undergrad.

00:17:21.060 And, you know, I'd heard stories about, you know, extra sensitive college students and snowflakes and so on.

00:17:27.700 And I thought a lot of it was probably just the media maybe blowing things out of proportion.

00:17:32.400 But then literally within my first two months at Yale, so this was the fall semester of 2015, a faculty member named Erica Christakis wrote an email around Halloween telling students that they should communicate with each other more if they're offended by the costumes that they, you know, other students choose to wear.

00:17:50.900 Rather than relying on the university administration to give us guidelines of what costumes were allowed to wear or not.

00:17:57.860 And the student reaction to her was just pure outrage.

00:18:01.520 They targeted her.

00:18:02.760 They turned her into a pariah on campus for essentially defending freedom of expression. 1.00

00:18:07.340 And eventually she had to resign and basically said that the climate on campus was not conducive to free speech.

00:18:14.420 So she stepped down from her from her positions at the university.

00:18:17.580 And so, OK, so I thought that was weird.

00:18:19.540 I thought, OK, so, you know, maybe this is just a quirk of American universities and that this is just unique to schools in the United States.

00:18:28.240 But then I arrived to the University of Cambridge here in England last year.

00:18:34.080 And literally within a few first few months, Jordan Peterson, who's probably the most famous academic in the world, gets disinvited from the university because a bunch of student and faculty protesters said that, you know, him him being here would make them feel scared or unsafe or something.

00:18:48.860 And so, you know, there is this problem in academia, but then in culture more broadly about people getting canceled for, you know, things that they say.

00:18:59.020 Can I ask you this, Rob, what you know, the thing that happened at Yale?

00:19:04.960 Here's here's a woman who is saying, look, talk to each other, have personal responsibility. 1.00

00:19:11.260 Take this upon yourself to understand.

00:19:13.700 Don't go to don't go to the man.

00:19:16.620 Don't expect the the college to do this.

00:19:19.500 This is the exact opposite kind of thinking from the 60s or any kind of of real movement with the youth.

00:19:29.060 They are they are holding up these the government and the administration in that case and saying, yeah, we we should have them do everything for us.

00:19:42.240 And where does that come from?

00:19:46.100 Yeah, you know, it's funny you say that if I'm not mistaken, I think in an interview, Erica Christakis, the professor who got, you know, who stepped down at Yale, she actually kind of referred to herself as this kind of 60s liberal.

00:19:57.880 You know, this person who sort of marched with the students and believed in the whole freedom of speech cause.

00:20:03.460 So it's sort of ironic that she's getting targeted now for simply defending freedom of expression.

00:20:09.940 And I think a lot of people from that generation are sort of bewildered at what's happening, because oftentimes they're the ones being targeted now.

00:20:17.640 But don't you find it don't you find it additionally strange that in an era where your voice can be heard, you have the power to be heard and to be seen anywhere around the world, that you have the power to start your own business, unlike any other time in the world.

00:20:34.900 And you can become famous, unlike any other time in the world, that that generation is going back to like a 1950s kind of structure.

00:20:43.720 Well, I think what's happening here, Glenn, is that the ideology and power are afraid of free speech.

00:20:52.820 So, you know, in the 50s and the 60s, there was a sort of perhaps more conservative ideology that held power in the universities and in society and the group that considered themselves the underdogs.

00:21:03.680 Maybe the sort of progressives at the time were fighting for freedom of speech, whereas today those students who protested back then now have the power and they're afraid of sort of uprisings of people who are challenging that.

00:21:16.300 And so I'm not entirely sure that freedom of speech itself is, you know, this bedrock principle, but it's only used as a sort of as a weapon against the opposing ideology.

00:21:26.720 Exactly right. So then what happens, Robert? What do we what is our future hold and how do we get our arms around this?

00:21:34.880 Because as you point out in your article, you know, wait until it's you. You could be next.

00:21:41.780 You point out in the article, that's not enough. That's theoretical to too many people, even though we're seeing it happen in real time right now.

00:21:49.980 You know, it's still not enough. Right. I don't think that those words, you know, you could be next, which I see a lot on social media and in conversations about cancel culture.

00:22:00.680 I don't think it actually registers for most people simply because the social rewards of, you know, getting into a mob and trying to cancel someone.

00:22:08.780 You know, those rewards are too immediate and gratifying. And the dangers of cancel culture are pretty remote and abstract.

00:22:15.560 I mean, it just isn't a sort of salient threat for a lot of people.

00:22:22.320 So Kipling wrote in his poem, The Gods of the Copybook Headings, that all these things will happen until terror and slaughter return.

00:22:34.040 And what he was talking about was you're just going to go off the deep end, but it will take terror and slaughter to return to common sense.

00:22:45.220 And we've seen this time and time again. Are we at that point to where the only thing that's going to stop this is just I mean, people didn't understand it in the 1920s.

00:22:54.040 Hey, you could be next. But by 1939, pretty much everybody was clear, you know, even those in Germany, pretty clear. 0.61

00:23:01.800 Oh, wow. I could be next.

00:23:05.600 Are we at that point to where that's the only thing that's going to stop this stuff is the world going into total madness?

00:23:12.860 You know, I'm a little bit more optimistic than that.

00:23:17.800 I don't think that we're sort of, you know, physically in danger, but I do think there's a lot of reputational danger at stake here.

00:23:24.680 You know, people aren't necessarily fearing for their personal physical safety, despite what a lot of like social justice activist warriors will try to tell you.

00:23:32.560 You know, it's not physical safety. It's more a reputational safety.

00:23:35.260 You know, any one of our reputations could be destroyed in the blink of an eye for something that we might have said, you know, 10 years ago.

00:23:42.440 You know, you see a lot of people digging up old tweets or old Facebook posts that you might have written in like 2009.

00:23:48.700 So I think it's more of the reputational destruction that's the real risk here.

00:23:53.660 But I think that as we continue to talk more about this and bring these, you know, these issues to light, that people will slowly come to their senses.

00:24:02.360 But in the meantime, I don't really see cancel culture going away.

00:24:05.740 I think that it's going to get quite a bit worse before we start to see it get better.

00:24:11.180 Rob, thank you so much and really appreciate you speaking out and risking your own reputation.

00:24:18.060 I'm sure you've had pushback. Have you not?

00:24:22.200 Yeah, yeah. I mean, I've had a few critics here and there, but I just brushed them off.

00:24:26.160 Yeah. Good for you, Rob. Thank you so much.

00:24:27.960 Rob Henderson. You can find him at Rob K. Henderson.

00:24:31.740 Follow him on Twitter. Thank you so much, Rob. Appreciate it.

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00:25:14.260 We have the impeachment moving forward.

00:25:17.680 Mitch McConnell is starting to do private classes on what's going to happen if the impeachment moves over to the Senate.

00:25:24.220 They're saying now that it looks like it's going to be done by Christmas time.

00:25:27.980 I don't know if I buy that. Schiff pushed Volker yesterday.

00:25:32.980 There was a fight in the cabinet room.

00:25:36.360 This is nuts. Where do you want to begin, Bill?

00:25:40.680 Let's begin with the Yankees-Astros playing tonight and Gale Force wins.

00:25:48.140 Right.

00:25:49.080 Look back. All of this, you're taking it, you and Stu, too seriously.

00:25:54.020 You're taking it too seriously.

00:25:55.720 The fix is in.

00:25:57.740 And you want to know what's going to happen?

00:25:58.980 I'll tell you right now so that when you go on your vacation with your wife over the weekend,

00:26:03.780 you can have a lovely time without thinking about any of it.

00:26:06.460 Oh, I'm good.

00:26:07.200 Even if you tell me we're all going to be sucked into a black hole in a week,

00:26:11.380 I'm still not going to think about it this weekend.

00:26:13.660 All right, good.

00:26:14.400 So Nancy Pelosi now is in a corner and has to do some kind of vote on impeachment 1.00

00:26:23.100 because she can't just say, oh, never mind, we really don't have anything.

00:26:29.300 Can't do that.

00:26:30.800 She's not – it's going to squeak by.

00:26:33.840 There will be, I don't know, 20, 25 defections on the Democratic side,

00:26:37.740 even though they'll be threatened by Ms. Pelosi with a cutoff of all their campaign funding. 0.95

00:26:42.600 There will be.

00:26:44.020 And then McConnell knows that when it comes in, there's nothing there.

00:26:48.300 So he's already canvassed.

00:26:50.240 I don't think there's going to be any Republican senators voting for conviction. 0.94

00:26:54.680 Maybe the crazy woman up in Alaska, Murkowski. 0.98

00:26:58.080 Will they vote to hear it and do a trial? 0.75

00:27:02.100 What they'll try to probably do is McConnell,

00:27:04.640 he has all these arcane things that he learned from Martin Van Buren that we don't know anything about.

00:27:10.180 You mean when McConnell was about 40, learning at the knee of –

00:27:16.360 Yeah, you know, I mean, Millard Fillmore told him something, and we have no idea what that is.

00:27:22.200 Right, right.

00:27:22.700 So he'll have some parliamentary stuff go, well, you know, really don't need the trial, let's just take a vote.

00:27:29.840 He'll do something like that.

00:27:31.480 But why not – I mean, if there isn't anything there, why not just go through the trial?

00:27:36.520 I don't think that the Senate wants to dignify it,

00:27:42.260 and they know the media is going to use it every hour on the hour to try to damage Republicans.

00:27:48.220 So they think they want to get it out of there.

00:27:50.380 And, you know, what do they have, three or four months off for Christmas?

00:27:53.240 They don't want to delay that.

00:27:54.500 They want to just get it done and then come back and start the campaign in January.

00:27:58.500 Doesn't that give the left more fuel to say, look, they're just burying it.

00:28:05.940 We found evidence, and they buried it.

00:28:08.020 Why not just do the trial?

00:28:10.320 That's what the evidence is.

00:28:11.920 You've got to have something to show the American people.

00:28:14.460 What do you got now?

00:28:16.280 You've got – well, Rudy Giuliani may have gone over there and said something mean.

00:28:20.780 Okay.

00:28:23.020 If they have evidence, if there is –

00:28:26.620 I know, but that's why I would have the trial.

00:28:29.240 I would say, Your Honor and the American people, did you hear what their evidence was?

00:28:37.000 But you know how the media is going to spin it.

00:28:39.800 You know they're not going to report accurately what happens at the trial.

00:28:43.440 So why bother with it?

00:28:45.240 You know, we're living in a country now where you just can't get any reality-based reporting at all.

00:28:50.600 But that would be covered live.

00:28:52.300 That would be the most watched thing of the Trump administration.

00:28:57.060 But how many Americans are going to sit there and watch it live?

00:29:00.840 I mean, they're not.

00:29:02.040 They're dependent upon a summation at the end of the day.

00:29:05.200 And they're not going to get an accurate summation.

00:29:07.860 Anyway, I know McConnell.

00:29:09.840 I know how he works.

00:29:10.900 I know how he thinks.

00:29:11.760 He thinks that this is a waste of time, and he wants to get rid of it.

00:29:16.580 And that's what he'll do.

00:29:17.980 Okay.

00:29:18.600 Let me go to Rudy Giuliani.

00:29:21.260 Rudy Giuliani – now there are four people connected to Rudy Giuliani – have been arrested.

00:29:26.460 And it's almost as if the Southern District of New York is working for the impeachment committee.

00:29:36.380 Rudy Giuliani – do you have any doubt that Rudy Giuliani is clean here?

00:29:43.900 Or is there – are they just sending a message?

00:29:47.080 Hey, Rudy, we'll get to anybody in your life.

00:29:49.000 We're going to take you down.

00:29:50.560 What is happening with this?

00:29:52.200 Well, they don't like Rudy Giuliani in the federal office in Manhattan.

00:29:57.580 Rudy Giuliani ran a firm that hired itself out to foreign governments.

00:30:07.140 Always a problem.

00:30:08.740 But he made a lot of money.

00:30:11.760 And he would travel to places like Mexico and Ukraine and other countries.

00:30:17.200 And he would get involved, Rudy would, in their local political situation.

00:30:22.420 Another huge problem.

00:30:24.280 In doing so, he would deal with Vladimir and Jose and all these people who Rudy Giuliani had no blanken idea what they were up to.

00:30:33.780 Okay.

00:30:33.920 So hang on just a second.

00:30:35.200 Isn't that exactly what Greg Craig did as the private attorney for President Obama?

00:30:40.180 He was acquitted, Greg Craig, of his whatever.

00:30:45.880 But what I'm trying to tell you is there is nobody on the face of the earth that can get through this labyrinth and know exactly what Rudy Giuliani did or did not do.

00:30:56.340 This is all private conversations under the banner of I have a private company.

00:31:01.180 I'm making a ton of money.

00:31:02.640 These countries are paying me a lot of money.

00:31:06.600 And they want me to do X, Y, and Z.

00:31:08.620 And we don't know what X, Y, and Z is.

00:31:10.940 We don't know who we dealt with.

00:31:12.120 We don't know why these guys are arrested.

00:31:13.920 We don't know anything.

00:31:15.420 And the feds aren't real anxious to tell us.

00:31:18.260 So that's where we stand on that.

00:31:19.920 So at one point I was invited over to Italy to have a private meeting with the prime minister of Italy.

00:31:25.420 This is at the height of the Tea Party.

00:31:27.140 And it was Berlusconi.

00:31:28.700 And he wanted to start his own tea party.

00:31:31.820 And while I was flattered to be asked, I remember having the team meeting and going, this is insane.

00:31:38.180 First of all, you don't, as a government official, you don't start a tea party thing.

00:31:44.320 And I don't want to get involved.

00:31:47.080 And, you know, I worried how it would look and everything else.

00:31:51.000 Although I thought free trip to Italy and meet with the prime minister would be fun.

00:31:55.760 I didn't do it.

00:31:57.620 Shouldn't these people have better common sense?

00:32:03.240 Well, when you're going to make $5 million a year, common sense leaves the building.

00:32:10.000 Giuliani wanted to make money.

00:32:12.260 This is the way he could do it.

00:32:13.900 So he did it.

00:32:15.080 And I don't know whether he hired attorneys to say, well, you can do this, you can't do that.

00:32:19.480 Like, I've never been invited by a foreign head of state to do anything.

00:32:23.880 In fact, they don't want me in their country.

00:32:26.540 And they send me postcards saying, hey, Bill, don't come to Iceland, okay?

00:32:31.540 I've kind of had, that's more my experience now.

00:32:35.380 Yeah.

00:32:35.700 Yeah.

00:32:36.240 Well, since you linked up with me, I mean, we're both persona non grata, although we will

00:32:40.320 be in Israel.

00:32:41.440 And that'll be an event.

00:32:43.520 I can guarantee it.

00:32:44.960 That will be.

00:32:45.460 Let me ask you this, when they're talking now, well, I want to come back to Schiff and

00:32:51.860 Volcker yesterday, but they're talking now, and I've heard the rumors that John Bolton

00:32:58.860 was very upset.

00:33:00.940 He was on the phone call, and he was very upset.

00:33:03.640 And that's one of the reasons why he was let go by the Trump administration.

00:33:06.660 And he threw a tantrum after that phone call.

00:33:10.360 And now they're going to, they're going to call him.

00:33:12.620 And I saw the story today.

00:33:14.080 It's increasingly likely to get a subpoena to John Bolton for these secret hearings, which

00:33:22.240 are not secret.

00:33:23.540 Do you know anything about the John Bolton side of this story?

00:33:27.620 All I know is that the story had an anonymous source attached to it, right?

00:33:32.880 There's no so-and-so said Bolton did there, so-and-so was in the room.

00:33:38.340 None of that, right?

00:33:39.100 It's just sources close to the situation, say.

00:33:43.220 So I discount this stuff.

00:33:44.900 I throw it in the anonymous sources bucket, which is overflowing.

00:33:50.260 Yeah.

00:33:50.800 I don't think Bolton was real happy being canned as a national security advisor.

00:33:56.980 I don't think he was.

00:33:57.780 No, no, no.

00:33:58.100 But they said he was on the phone call, that he was one of the people.

00:34:01.500 If he was on a phone call, then he has to tell the truth about it, right?

00:34:04.500 Yep.

00:34:05.460 Yep.

00:34:05.660 Okay, so let's go.

00:34:07.300 Tee him up.

00:34:08.520 So do you have any problem?

00:34:09.620 I want to have the truth.

00:34:10.460 Do you have any problem?

00:34:11.760 I mean, I was talking to my team yesterday, and we were saying, look, I want you to follow

00:34:17.120 through all of the stuff on Rudy Giuliani and John Bolton and all of this stuff, follow

00:34:21.780 it, because if that's where the story is, I know that there is a story about corruption

00:34:27.200 in Ukraine, about the DNC.

00:34:28.860 So follow that, but also follow, because if it turns out both sides are dirty, I want both

00:34:34.380 sides exposed.

00:34:35.280 Yeah, let's know.

00:34:36.280 I mean, that's always been my philosophy, and that's why I'm incredibly successful, because

00:34:40.940 I mean, I want to know the truth.

00:34:43.500 And humble.

00:34:44.360 And humble.

00:34:45.200 I just want to point out.

00:34:46.140 Humble is through the eye of the beholder.

00:34:49.620 Some might say that demanding the truth is an act of humility, because you don't want

00:34:56.160 other people to be deceived.

00:34:58.140 Therefore, you're putting yourself in the arena on behalf of those other people, which

00:35:02.180 is awful.

00:35:02.360 Yeah, and as long as you're willing to look at the other side and say, hey, maybe I'm

00:35:06.560 wrong, let's explore it.

00:35:08.700 There is nothing more humble than that, because I don't have to be right.

00:35:12.180 I don't want to be right.

00:35:13.220 I want the truth to be exposed.

00:35:14.960 But that's a different kind of humility than the one I was talking about.

00:35:17.760 Bill, did you read the transcript of the secret interrogation between Schiff and Volker?

00:35:28.320 No.

00:35:29.200 Okay.

00:35:30.000 You need to read it.

00:35:31.060 I mean, first thing I want to know is, if it's a secret meeting and investigation, how

00:35:38.360 come I get the transcript?

00:35:39.780 It's not so secret, is it?

00:35:41.520 But in it, he's talking to Volker, who is the United States Special Representative to Ukraine,

00:35:49.820 and they were expecting him to say, oh, no, yeah, Ukraine was pressured into this by Donald

00:35:58.420 Trump, and they were really, oh my gosh, they were really afraid of what to do.

00:36:02.620 And they have him on the text messages going back and forth to the EU ambassador, who's

00:36:09.700 saying, I don't think we should be pressuring another country to do things like this.

00:36:13.620 And he's responding the whole time going, no, that's not what he was saying.

00:36:18.920 That didn't happen.

00:36:20.080 Nobody feels that except you, and that's not what's going on.

00:36:23.580 Schiff got him and tried to force him to say that Trump was intimidating Ukraine, and he

00:36:29.980 wouldn't fold.

00:36:32.320 Well, if that's the transcript, I think it should go right to the House Ethics Committee.

00:36:37.700 And, you know, this guy Schiff's in trouble, by the way.

00:36:40.720 His public opinion, public profile, I mean, there's nobody that doesn't hate Trump who

00:36:48.740 likes him and trusts him.

00:36:50.440 Nobody.

00:36:51.360 So I think he's destroyed his career, his credibility, and if indeed he tried to, you

00:36:57.800 know, browbeat a witness, the Ethics Committee should get that.

00:37:02.420 Let me go to the weird meeting in the cabinet room yesterday between Donald Trump and Nancy

00:37:09.860 Pelosi and Chuck Schumer.

00:37:13.060 All the cabinet room was full.

00:37:14.740 The president was sitting there. 0.94

00:37:16.140 They started accusing the president of just, you know, being a heartless murderer and killing 0.79

00:37:21.120 all these people, the defenseless Kurds. 1.00

00:37:23.620 He says, according to the president, he said, well, you know, these are communists.

00:37:31.200 These guys are all communists.

00:37:32.880 And maybe you guys don't mind that so much.

00:37:36.180 Nancy Pelosi, the picture show, stood up and started pointing her finger and yelling at 1.00

00:37:41.480 the president.

00:37:41.900 And they leave, storm out of the cabinet room, and then hold a press conference, her and

00:37:47.780 Chuck Schumer, where she says we have to have prayer for Trump's health because he had a

00:37:51.980 very serious meltdown.

00:37:54.200 What do you think happened here?

00:37:55.880 Well, let me ask you, is Stu still there?

00:37:57.900 Is he, or you have to slap him, wake him up?

00:37:59.760 I'm not here.

00:38:00.620 Hello?

00:38:01.280 Yes, what?

00:38:01.780 Hi, Bill?

00:38:02.280 Okay.

00:38:03.000 Testing.

00:38:04.220 Let me ask you two a question.

00:38:05.700 When you heard this story last night, did you believe that President Trump had a meltdown?

00:38:13.480 No.

00:38:14.040 They say he has a meltdown in every five minutes.

00:38:16.500 Okay.

00:38:17.080 Yeah, but I mean, Donald Trump is, I mean, he is a volatile guy. 0.75

00:38:21.540 So did he have a mental breakdown? 0.90

00:38:23.520 Is it, what they were trying to say is he was mentally unstable.

00:38:26.180 I don't believe that at all.

00:38:27.180 Right, right, right, right, right.

00:38:27.880 But the point of the matter is that the bigger point is this.

00:38:31.120 When I heard this story, I instantly said, bull.

00:38:35.720 That was my first reaction, bull.

00:38:37.640 All right, because the media lies every two seconds about Donald Trump, and so do Pelosi

00:38:43.280 and Schumer.

00:38:44.560 Now, then Trump says today, well, Nancy had a meltdown. 1.00

00:38:49.340 And I say, well, the Secret Service guys had a meltdown, and the guy cutting the lawn

00:38:54.100 had a meltdown.

00:38:54.440 Everybody melted down.

00:38:55.700 It's so absurd.

00:38:56.720 But my point is, you can't get any accuracy of it.

00:39:00.580 So let's just get real.

00:39:02.220 Number one, Nancy Pelosi hates Donald Trump. 1.00

00:39:05.360 Number two, Donald Trump hates Nancy Pelosi.

00:39:08.180 They're never going to get along.

00:39:09.780 They're barely civil.

00:39:11.140 And Trump probably insulted her.

00:39:13.160 All right?

00:39:14.040 I guarantee you, Trump said that.

00:39:16.080 Trump said that he did.

00:39:17.600 He probably said you're a third-rate politician or whatever.

00:39:20.220 Yes, yes.

00:39:20.420 Okay.

00:39:21.000 All right, that's number one.

00:39:22.060 Number two, Donald Trump, in my opinion, made a mistake.

00:39:26.720 In blowing this Kurd-Syria thing up. 1.00

00:39:30.240 All he had to do was tell the Pentagon, hey, if American troops are going to get caught up

00:39:38.180 in this thing between Turkey and the Kurds, get them out. 1.00

00:39:42.140 Move them somewhere else, back to a base 25 miles away.

00:39:48.240 He didn't have to do this.

00:39:49.880 This is another unforced error.

00:39:52.640 Because he had to know that any kind of troop withdrawal in those areas is going to make

00:39:58.600 somebody mad.

00:39:59.700 Okay, so the mainstream media today is saying, what did he get from Erdogan?

00:40:05.160 What did Trump personally benefit from?

00:40:07.240 He got a vacation.

00:40:09.780 Yeah, I know.

00:40:10.380 So why did he make this move, in your opinion?

00:40:19.560 Because he doesn't want any American forces on the ground in the Middle East.

00:40:28.180 He doesn't want it.

00:40:29.480 But he, at the same time, increased forces in Saudi Arabia, 2,000 extra troops there.

00:40:35.200 Well, he has to do some of that for economic reasons, primarily, and for the fight against

00:40:42.180 Iran.

00:40:43.520 He campaigned quite clearly.

00:40:45.980 And this is in the United States of Trump.

00:40:48.360 He campaigned quite clearly.

00:40:50.380 And we're tired of fighting everybody else's battles.

00:40:53.160 You know that.

00:40:54.200 We're tired of this.

00:40:56.240 We want NATO to pay its own way.

00:40:58.360 We want other people to help us out.

00:41:00.140 We've got to get out of there.

00:41:01.620 That's why he did it.

00:41:02.460 But the timing was terrible.

00:41:05.020 You know, you've got to calm it down, Mr. President.

00:41:07.980 Let's calm it down.

00:41:09.500 He has such an opportunity, and I hope we talk about this in our last segment, with these 0.96

00:41:13.860 crazy Democrats. 0.99

00:41:15.520 I mean, these people are insane. 1.00

00:41:18.040 What an opportunity he has.

00:41:20.440 And yet he gets caught up in the weeds of the Kurds versus the Turks. 0.64

00:41:24.840 I mean, it just doesn't make any sense to me.

00:41:27.460 You can do this stuff.

00:41:29.000 You don't have to blow it up into a major controversy.

00:41:31.600 All right.

00:41:31.840 Back with Bill O'Reilly in just a second.

00:41:33.780 The name of his book is The United States of Trump, and it really explains how Trump

00:41:37.620 sees the United States and the world.

00:41:39.240 You want to understand his decision-making.

00:41:41.240 You don't even have to agree with it.

00:41:43.360 But if you want to understand his decision-making, you should read this book by Bill O'Reilly.

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00:42:11.040 Charlie Kirk, the founder and executive director of Turning Point USA, a national student movement

00:42:16.320 dedicated to identifying, organizing, and empowering young people to promote the principles

00:42:21.160 of free markets and limited government.

00:42:23.420 Charlie, I was up in Chicago a couple of weeks ago, and I gave a speech, and I think there

00:42:28.200 was a table of maybe 15 or 20 of the people that are in Turning Point.

00:42:31.920 And I asked one of my guys, I said, go grab those guys and tell them we'll wait for a minute.

00:42:38.220 And after the program, I spent like 20 minutes with them.

00:42:41.480 They were really bright, really passionate, great representation of your group and what

00:42:50.920 you guys stand for.

00:42:51.740 I was really impressed with them.

00:42:53.760 Well, thank you so much, Glenn.

00:42:54.860 I really appreciate that.

00:42:56.040 And you gave a great speech from all accounts, and thank you.

00:42:59.000 You were speaking against socialism, which is something that we're fighting every single

00:43:02.620 day on high school and college campuses.

00:43:05.280 Yeah, but I found out now that really all you are is a front for white supremacy.

00:43:12.440 Which is such a, honestly, it's an insulting accusation.

00:43:17.480 So at Turning Point USA, we're on 1,400 high school and college campuses across the country.

00:43:22.140 And we recently did an event at University of Nevada, Reno, where the whole effort of the

00:43:28.680 radical students with the help of the administration was to try to paint me and our organization as

00:43:34.280 a white supremacist group.

00:43:35.660 So first of all, this cheapens real racism.

00:43:38.320 Every time I encounter any form of ethno-nationalism, I repudiate it, I reject it.

00:43:43.560 But secondly, it also just shows the misinformation.

00:43:45.680 Because if there's any organization that has done more than most conservative organizations

00:43:51.720 to try to diversify at the reach of the conservative movement, it would be Turning Point USA.

00:43:57.280 Yeah, well, I mean, let's not talk about your black leadership summit.

00:44:03.220 But other than that, what have you done?

00:44:07.060 Right.

00:44:07.320 Well, you know, the name Candace Owens might ring a bell for a lot of people.

00:44:11.680 She got her start kind of visibly politically through Turning Point USA a year and a half

00:44:17.140 ago.

00:44:17.380 Our current spokesman is a young man by the name of Rob Smith, who is an African-American

00:44:22.720 and black American.

00:44:24.120 But all those things, you know, put aside, and I really had these conversations with these

00:44:28.300 radical leftists on campus.

00:44:30.040 And I realized no matter how much I denounce or reject racism, that's not what they want.

00:44:35.020 They want me to stop being conservative.

00:44:37.700 That's what it's really all about.

00:44:39.260 Well, Charlie, I mean, I think you're making a decent point here, but you are 1K away from

00:44:45.280 being the Klan.

00:44:46.300 You have two Ks already in your last name.

00:44:49.140 You realize that, don't you?

00:44:50.680 Well, that would make me a Democrat.

00:44:52.540 Because the Democrats are already the KKK.

00:44:55.240 And interestingly enough, I tell people, you know, they try to misrepresent President Trump

00:44:59.940 and his movement as being, you know, one that is rooted in racism and hatred and bigotry.

00:45:05.660 However, it's the most fringe elements of the left that are the ones that are not being

00:45:10.980 expelled from mainstream, you know, the mainstream Democrat Party.

00:45:14.240 One thing that we as conservatives pride ourselves on is we expel the demons within our own ranks.

00:45:19.460 The left does no such thing.

00:45:21.020 In fact, they embrace them.

00:45:22.260 So Antifa does not get does not get excommunicated from the ranks of the Democrat Party or from

00:45:28.460 the left at all.

00:45:29.960 In fact, they get embraced and they get protected when Antifa goes and slams Trump supporters

00:45:35.220 outside of Minneapolis or in the streets of Portland when they attacked Andy Ngo, you

00:45:39.780 know, an Asian-American gay journalist.

00:45:41.780 No one gets arrested.

00:45:43.120 However, we as conservatives, we go out of our way to say what we believe in and why we

00:45:46.900 believe in it.

00:45:47.480 And we excommunicate anyone that might might dare to be on the fringes.

00:45:52.640 And it's disappointing that a sitting U.S.

00:45:54.800 senator and once a leading contender for the presidency, I don't think she's in the top 1.00

00:45:59.600 tier candidates any longer, but she's in the top five or six goes out of her way to attack 1.00

00:46:04.780 a conservative student organization that stands for the principles of the pluribus unum, which

00:46:10.440 of course is the Latin phrase out of many one free enterprise and liberty.

00:46:14.860 It also goes to show that we are making a significant difference on these campuses.

00:46:19.780 The left gets very troubled when we as conservatives actually play offense and we go to places

00:46:25.080 that they have always previously dominated.

00:46:28.040 So, Charlie, give me some good news on what's happening.

00:46:30.620 I you know, when I was talking to your guys in Chicago, one really struck me and I spent

00:46:35.680 a few minutes with him by himself afterwards.

00:46:38.400 He came up and he shook my hand afterwards and said, thank you.

00:46:42.760 You know, your support really means a lot.

00:46:44.920 And his eyes teared up and he said, I have been targeted by my school and I had to go into

00:46:52.920 a special class and I have been ostracized because I am a conservative.

00:46:59.940 And he said, no one is standing up, he said.

00:47:04.140 And he was really a kind guy.

00:47:05.960 And he said, I just really want to give up at times because it's just so hard.

00:47:11.960 I just am so alone.

00:47:14.740 Give me some good news on what's happening.

00:47:17.720 I will.

00:47:18.080 And so I find that the campus radicals are decreasing in size, but they're increasing in volume.

00:47:24.380 So they get a lot of attention and really an unwarranted amount of attention, such as

00:47:29.260 Senator Kamala Harris attacking our organization.

00:47:32.200 But they're not increasing their ranks.

00:47:34.100 And I have evidence for this, Glenn.

00:47:35.720 So the reason why Senator Harris is so upset at Turning Point USA is that she spoke at University

00:47:40.920 of Nevada Arena two weeks before we did at Turning Point USA.

00:47:44.340 She had a measly 300 students show up to her event. 0.82

00:47:47.160 We had standing room only well over a thousand students and we had to add more chairs in the

00:47:51.160 back of the room overflow crowd.

00:47:52.860 So a once leading contender for the United States presidency and sitting U.S. senator

00:47:59.060 from a neighboring state can only draw a couple hundred students at a very liberal campus.

00:48:03.920 And we're packing up auditoriums with overflows amongst the students.

00:48:07.780 I'll give you another piece of optimism is that students, I'm being met more with curiosity

00:48:12.220 than combativeness.

00:48:13.760 There is a growing trend on these campuses where students want at least to hear another

00:48:18.320 opinion.

00:48:18.740 Our biggest issue as conservatives is that we don't get enough people to hear the truth

00:48:23.860 that that we espouse.

00:48:25.580 It's not even a matter of it's not even a matter of that.

00:48:28.320 We need to do a better job of marketing or messaging.

00:48:30.640 At times, I believe we do.

00:48:31.940 I think actually, thanks to digital and social media, we're doing a better and better job

00:48:36.000 of that.

00:48:36.560 Glenn, I sent you a message of how terrific your Ukraine video was.

00:48:40.100 I can't tell you how many students sent that to me and complimented you and said, now I

00:48:45.600 have more clarity on this very complex issue.

00:48:48.440 And so we're getting better and better as a movement around that.

00:48:51.980 However, it's a matter of distribution.

00:48:54.300 It's a matter of reaching students because when we actually reach students, we find that

00:48:58.040 they get convicted and they get converted towards our side.

00:49:02.060 And so it's an issue that where students are much more curious than they are combative.

00:49:06.200 And that should be a call to action to all your listeners that we need to spread our

00:49:09.240 message, you know, to more campuses and more students all across the country.

00:49:13.380 So do you see any besides besides Bernie Sanders on campuses?

00:49:19.040 Do you see anybody that is really rallying around any of these candidates?

00:49:24.140 Is there a Barack Obama in the in the the mix here that we're missing because they all

00:49:31.500 just seem crazy radical that don't don't appear to be anybody that can connect with anyone?

00:49:38.420 Hard to disagree with that.

00:49:39.800 The two candidates that I that I've been talking about for months and people thought I was a

00:49:44.640 little a little on the fringe when I said this, but I said Senator Elizabeth Warren and

00:49:49.480 Pete Buttigieg.

00:49:50.220 I've been saying that since May and each each of them kind of cater to a different type of

00:49:54.900 college audience.

00:49:56.200 And Senator Warren, she's a college professor.

00:49:58.240 You know, she she is the Woodrow Wilson of this generation, who is, of course, a former

00:50:02.780 college president at Princeton University.

00:50:04.820 And she she wants to become the philosopher king of America. 0.98

00:50:08.220 I'm sorry, philosophy queen of America.

00:50:10.320 And I even wrote a piece about this where she she believes that if you give her enough

00:50:14.620 power, she can fix society's ills. 1.00

00:50:17.140 Just another committee, just another bureaucracy, just another couple pieces of legislation that

00:50:22.360 erode freedom and liberty.

00:50:23.860 Charlie, how old are you?

00:50:25.940 I just turned 26.

00:50:28.240 I want to thank you so much for knowing who Woodrow Wilson is.

00:50:31.300 Thank you.

00:50:31.980 Thank you.

00:50:32.480 I learned I learned about him from you and your great books.

00:50:35.700 Crazy.

00:50:36.340 My teenagers. 0.84

00:50:37.180 Yeah.

00:50:37.520 And then finally, of course, Pete Buttigieg, who is a little bit more of the students that

00:50:41.700 think that America is too divided.

00:50:44.060 Pete Buttigieg is a much more effective Alinskyite than Senator Warren.

00:50:47.960 Pete Buttigieg pretends to be something that he isn't.

00:50:50.340 You notice that he takes a stand against massive gun confiscation or attacking people's religious

00:50:56.260 liberties.

00:50:56.740 He is exactly the same philosophically as Senator Elizabeth Warren.

00:51:01.200 He just pretends to be someone he isn't a lot better because he's had to in the Rust

00:51:05.400 Belt of the country. 0.84

00:51:06.600 And I say that Senator Elizabeth Warren is very popular in the coffee room, the coffee

00:51:11.280 club in Harvard or the wine club in Beverly Hills or the whiskey bar in Washington, D.C.

00:51:17.120 But you have to be able to resonate at the deep, you know, the deep fryer, the deep chicken

00:51:20.820 fryer in Des Moines.

00:51:21.720 And I don't know if Senator Warren can do that as well as someone such as, you know, a Midwestern 1.00

00:51:28.580 candidate, Pete Buttigieg.

00:51:29.740 However, I think there is limitations on his appeal with older audiences.

00:51:33.020 So those are the two candidates that have a lot of appeal on campuses.

00:51:36.380 Senator Sanders has far less grassroots support this time around than he did last time.

00:51:41.100 And I do tell people, though, that if Senator Warren does become the nominee, do not discount

00:51:47.900 her at face value.

00:51:49.660 You know, there's far more socialists in this country than I think we realize.

00:51:53.320 We have to take her just as seriously as any other candidate.

00:51:56.120 And I actually find Glenn very quickly that people think it's going to be an automatic

00:52:00.780 victory if it's a Senator Elizabeth Warren in the conservative movement. 0.98

00:52:04.100 I do not agree with that.

00:52:05.380 And I think she'll actually be a lot more be a lot more difficult than people realize. 0.76

00:52:08.980 Charlie, you have Glenn coming down to a conference soon in Florida.

00:52:11.880 Is that right?

00:52:12.400 We do.

00:52:13.000 Yeah.

00:52:13.280 Thank you for mentioning that.

00:52:14.420 We're so excited to have Glenn come down to our largest and the largest conservative

00:52:18.980 student event ever in the history of the country.

00:52:22.000 So it's called our Student Action Summit.

00:52:24.000 Glenn, the website is tpusa.com slash sas.

00:52:28.500 It's in Palm Beach, December 19th through the 21st.

00:52:32.420 And Glenn is one of our keynotes.

00:52:34.680 And we're so excited.

00:52:35.460 We actually might bring out a chalkboard so that Glenn can explain how all this, you

00:52:39.680 know, left-wing indoctrination and propaganda began.

00:52:42.500 But these are the frontline student activists.

00:52:44.520 These are the high school and college kids that are taking a beating every day.

00:52:47.860 And you heard it firsthand, Glenn, of our grassroots warriors in Chicago.

00:52:52.280 I have a barn burner for you.

00:52:55.900 I have a barn burner for you that I think will really empower a lot of people that are

00:53:03.040 coming.

00:53:03.960 And Charlie, I think, you know, listening to Glenn say the term barn burner makes me wonder,

00:53:08.860 have you ever had anyone as old as Glenn at one of these conferences?

00:53:13.500 Are you concerned that they might not even?

00:53:17.060 Thank you.

00:53:17.760 Well, so we, Glenn is young in spirit, right?

00:53:22.180 Wow.

00:53:23.160 I'm starting to be talked about like this now.

00:53:25.840 Holy cow. 0.89

00:53:27.120 All right, Charlie, thank you so much.

00:53:29.520 And thank you for what you guys are doing.

00:53:31.880 And hats off sincerely.

00:53:33.940 I was kind of alone for a long time saying, don't disregard the millennials.

00:53:39.980 There are a lot of millennials that are not like the ones that are getting these bad names.

00:53:45.620 And you are showing them.

00:53:47.580 And I love watching your videos because I see these giant crowds that you are talking

00:53:55.360 to and people that your organization is talking to.

00:53:58.840 And you're reaching people.

00:54:00.380 And that is critical if we're going to keep a republic.

00:54:03.340 Thank you so much, Charlie.

00:54:04.620 Thank you, Glenn.

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