Glenn and Stu are joined by Fred McCostrop from the Democratic National Committee to discuss Beto O'Rourke's campaign. They also talk about a woman who is facing up to a year in jail for her part in a bar heist.
00:06:47.740Beto's nickname came not from his El Paso upbringing.
00:06:55.060The nickname came from a country club servant.
00:06:57.260And this country club servant could not say Robert because he was one of these people from wherever those regions are down there below that border fence that we need.
00:08:17.920Some have criticized the use of a calming feeling.
00:08:20.360You have said that it was taken out of context.
00:08:22.620I want to give you a chance to provide some context.
00:08:24.440Yeah, and, you know, for folks that don't know, I mean, my grandmother, my living grandmother, my mom's mom, lives in the West Bank and occupy territories in Palestine.
00:08:32.740And what's incredibly, you know, the tragedy of the Holocaust, I mean, the reason why Israel was created was to create a safe haven for Jews around the world.
00:08:40.600And there is something, like, in many ways, beautiful about that my ancestors, many had died or had to give up their livelihood, their human dignity,
00:08:49.680to provide a safe haven for Jews in our world.
00:08:52.680And that is something I wanted to recognize and kind of honor in some sort of way.
00:08:57.160But I also think it's important because I want Palestinian people also to find some sort of, you know, light in this kind of what's happening.
00:09:04.300But also, you know, in the end, I said, I want all of us to feel safe.
00:09:09.440All of us deserve human dignity, no matter our backgrounds, no matter our ethnicity, no matter even our political opinions.
00:09:15.800We all deserve that kind of equality and justice.
00:09:18.780And, you know, for me, I wanted to uplift that and bring that to light.
00:09:23.640You know, I got a text message from a friend who's like, hey, next time, you know, really clarify.
00:09:28.100Maybe talk like a fourth grader because maybe the racist idiots would understand you better.
00:09:32.280So it's just, you know, it's everyone else's fault again.
00:09:40.280This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:09:52.440I have got to speak my mind on this as Stu did yesterday.
00:09:57.700This is grave injustice as I see this.
00:10:01.000We wanted to get Lindsay Glass's attorney, Scott Palmer, on to see if he could explain what the heck is happening with with Lindsay Glass and why she's possibly going to go to jail for a year for something that the even the police say you saved lives.
00:10:36.420Some cases should be prosecuted and some are just plain should never be.
00:10:40.720The idea that this case should be the legacy of this horrible tragedy.
00:10:45.520This is what we're talking about now rather than the mental health and the domestic abuse and the fact that this is a premeditated, heinous crime that was going to happen regardless of where this man was drinking or not drinking.
00:10:59.460It just is an insult to the actual memories of the seven people that were killed.
00:11:04.280A couple of things that I wanted to make sure that we're clear on.
00:11:54.140And that's why, I mean, the law is, and I heard your intro in the dram shop area where you serve, over serve somebody and they get in a wreck, an accident.
00:12:03.020And then there's, there's liability under the civil law, but, and, and, and the bar was sued by the lawyers that represented the, uh, the families.
00:12:11.440And I do those types of cases as well.
00:12:13.300And I got to be honest with you, if they came to me with the theory that the bar is responsible for the death of these people,
00:12:19.720when you've got a massive proximate cause issue, big, I mean, you got an intentional act that was planned, premeditated for probably weeks.
00:12:29.080He had a, an armory in his, in his apartment of thousands and thousands of rounds and guns.
00:12:34.360And he had been plotting this apparently for a while, but to put liability on the bar or the bartender for what he did is just, I can see why you're angry and why you're doing the story.
00:12:45.940And that's why the, the world has been attracted to the story.
00:12:49.380It doesn't make any sense to prosecute her.
00:13:23.440And apparently he's a master manipulator, according to his ex-mother-in-law.
00:13:27.220And he's a very adept drunk, which means he is able to mask his intoxication and people into serving him, which is exactly what happened here.
00:13:35.920So she just got a bad vibe from him and he ends up believing.
00:24:13.460We don't have introspective access to all of our brains and all of our preferences.
00:24:18.540And so a very large part, I think, of consumer capitalism is a process of experimentation and selection, a kind of Darwinian thing.
00:24:26.900And I think, I mean, one example I find fascinating is that Google, now let's be absolutely honest here, Google is a very good search engine.
00:24:35.020I'm not claiming that it's anything other than that.
00:24:38.380It, however, did a very clever psychological trick in the sense that at the time everybody else was trying to be a portal.
00:24:44.360They put sports scores, they put weather information, they put breaking news, and Google just had a search bar and two buttons.
00:24:51.540Now, actually, psychologically, that's very astute, because there's a known thing in psychology called the jack-of-all-trades heuristic,
00:25:00.860which is that we tend to think that something that only does one thing is going to be better at it than something that does multiple things.
00:25:07.540You know, I've often thought, Rory, that that page also lends Google credibility because you're not associating it with anything other than information that you're looking for.
00:25:21.060So, I never see an ad for something that I like or don't like.
00:25:25.380I never see a news story that I like or don't like.
00:25:28.740It seems neutral, even though it's not.
00:25:33.920I think the very simplicity of the thing is psychologically brilliant.
00:25:37.420However, I think the reason for its simplicity isn't intentional.
00:25:42.640It was simply that Larry Page at the time wasn't very good at coding HTML, and it was kind of the best he could do.
00:25:48.880So, quite often, I think what happens, Dyson is an interesting case in terms of the vacuum cleaner.
00:25:56.880I think there that in terms of what makes a successful innovation, we probably pay too much credit to technology and too little to psychology.
00:26:06.820In the case of Dyson, I think the magic comes from the fact that the thing is transparent, and you can actually see the dirt that you're removing from your floor.
00:26:14.460In the case of Uber, I think the brilliant psychological insight is simply that waiting for a cab, waiting for a taxi, is inordinately less frustrating if you can see where it is.
00:26:26.120And, you know, I had no idea that this came from a James Bond film or somebody watching it.
00:26:32.120Can you explain the story of how this came about?
00:26:33.900No, so one of the co-founders of Uber, who I think was Canadian, one afternoon was watching Goldfinger.
00:26:41.380And in Goldfinger, if you remember it, there's this fascinating moment where Bond, I think, is tracking him through the Swiss Alps.
00:26:50.960Goldfinger is in a Rolls-Royce, which is made of gold, in fact, which is how he's smuggling gold out of the country.
00:26:56.300And Bond has to track him, and there's a little map, a moving map, in the face here of his Aston Martin DB6.
00:27:05.420And on the map is a dot, which enables him to follow Goldfinger's car while remaining out of sight.
00:27:11.500And the fascinating thing there is that this Canadian guy watching this, something like 10 years ago, looked at that and said,
00:27:18.100that's how it should work when you order a taxi.
00:27:20.240Wow, that's brilliant. A multi-billion dollar decision there.
00:28:48.540And so, I also cite Nespresso as an example of this.
00:28:53.740It's quite an expensive coffee if you compare it to ground coffee.
00:28:57.180It's a cheap coffee if you compare it to Starbucks.
00:28:59.520So, Rory, I was against Donald Trump during the election, and I'm a conservative in radio here and television in America.
00:29:13.780But I was against him, and I could not understand how my audience was flocking to him until after the election,
00:29:23.500and I started asking the question that I would have asked any of my friends who were acting, you know, erratically and saying,
00:29:33.460I believe in this, but then I'm going to go vote for this.
00:29:37.260And I started asking the question, what's happening in your life?
00:29:43.820Then I began to understand how people felt.
00:29:48.500And I know facts don't care about feelings, but feelings, especially now in politics, are playing the critical role.
00:29:58.720It's how, because people on both sides, and I think all over Europe and in England with Brexit, there are those people in Brexit that are racist,
00:30:10.260but there are also those who feel like they've been left behind, not listened to, they're losing their culture,
00:30:18.420and they don't agree with what's going on, but nobody's listening to them.
00:30:24.460And I don't care what side you're on, but that is a big motivator, I think, all around the world right now,
00:30:32.480are these people who feel nobody's listening to me.
00:36:39.260They knew that he was piggish, but they just wanted somebody that would break up this system, and they thought he could do it, and he was a wise enough businessman that he wouldn't destroy the country.
00:37:57.780If you're selling me mutual funds, I would still contend – because I think this is why conservatives lose the battle – I contend that the fastest way to a person's brain is through their heart.
00:38:10.880And so you paint a picture of what people want to be, what they want to do, what they want their life to be like, and then show them the facts that back up, this is how we do it.
00:38:26.580I mean, all that you're saying is that you could never either have a strictly cognitive appeal, marketing appeal, or a strictly affective appeal.
00:38:34.360And I certainly would concede that point.
00:38:36.060And I think that's true, I mean, all the way to brain surgery.
00:38:38.920I mean, my daughter is – we're looking at having brain surgery for her, and she's been having testing, you know, like crazy over the last year.
00:38:48.740And while I want a doctor to be able to explain it and really be precise on exactly what he's going to do,
00:38:59.340and I need the facts on exactly what's happening, I also want to feel from him that he is compassionate and understands this is my daughter.
00:39:14.800But speaking of physicians, now in Quebec, they are thinking of changing the medical school curriculum to no longer include grading,
00:39:25.980because too many of the students are getting high stress.
00:39:30.500So I really want a physician who is handling life or death decisions to be sufficiently weak that they can't handle an A or a B grade.
00:39:42.080I mean, imagine how much you're infantilizing people when even physicians now or physicians-to-be can no longer handle the indignity of being graded.
00:40:53.460And I truly wonder when it is that most academics are going to have the testicular fortitude to wake up and start speaking out against this.
00:41:01.700Well, I will tell you, I think you guys in Canada are way ahead of us.
00:41:06.040I mean, I don't, I don't, honestly, I don't know what it is in Canada.
00:41:09.700Maybe it's because you guys have to fight every step of the way.
00:41:12.940And we have this, you know, strange belief that our Constitution will protect us and our Bill of Rights.
00:41:19.420But it's not going to protect us because we're not standing up for it.
00:41:22.700But Canada, the academics in Canada seem to be being very vocal.
00:41:30.740Well, certainly the few Canadian academics who are at the forefront of it, yes, you're right.
00:41:36.240But what I would love to see is the silent majority, right?
00:41:39.580I mean, as I've often recounted, I get innumerable emails from fellow professors, not just Canadians, from all over the world saying,
00:41:48.140hey, I support you, I really support you, thank you for being, you know, an academic hero.
00:41:51.940But please, please don't share publicly that I support you.
00:41:55.180Well, therein lies the problem, right?
00:44:21.440Ninety-eight percent of people polled in my home country of Lebanon hate the Jews.
00:44:28.540What a surprise that we had to leave Lebanon in 1975.
00:44:31.280So when you have somebody like Rashida Tlaib come out and say that her grandmother lost her land and many Palestinians lost their lives so the Jews could have a homeland.
00:46:14.540But she's incapable of being truthful because she always has to create the narrative of the Palestinians are the victims and the evil Jews are the oppressors.
00:46:33.720Now, I don't think that one needs to couch the language of, you know, the existence of evil in a theological construct.
00:46:44.440People are born with the random combination of genes that constitute originally their parents.
00:46:50.680And sometimes people are born tall or short or with a blue dot on their face or without a blue dot on their face.
00:46:56.260And similarly, through random mutations, some people are born, for example, serial killers are born without the capacity to feel empathy.
00:47:05.260That's not rooted in a theological construct.
00:47:07.680It's just the reality of the random combination of genes.
00:47:11.280So is that there's I believe there is a force of evil and, you know, I don't have to take it to Satan or anything like that.
00:47:20.480I can just take it to, you know, you had these really sick people like Hitler and Goebbels and everybody else.
00:47:28.580They were really disturbed and they their force of will became in infectious and it it spread and that evil force that they had within them caught a lot of people up into it that that weren't necessarily evil.
00:47:51.400They just kind of were swept up in it.
00:48:10.400Well, that came as a result of many of the, you know, foot soldiers, the Nazi foot soldiers simply saying, hey, I'm not an evil guy.
00:48:17.560I was just kind of I was caught up in the moment.
00:48:19.740And so what Milgram wanted to do was test whether, you know, there was there was truth to that, whether I can take completely normal people, put them in a condition where I forced them to conform and then they would do some truly horrifying things.
00:48:33.820And as he found out, he could get people without them knowing that this was a, you know, a made up thing.
00:48:40.140He could get people to administer voltage to fellow students that would kill them simply through his authority.
00:48:47.480Hey, you agreed to participate in this experiment.
00:49:06.400The the book about the soldiers in Poland that were some of the best policemen in Poland, not evil, and how the Germans turned them into just a massive killing machine.
00:49:26.100And right and and and how and how you do that.
00:49:29.300And I'm I have to tell you, with with the anti-Semitism that's going on with this new poll that we've talked about earlier this week, where about 40 percent of the population looks at the other side as not human.
00:49:45.62020 percent of the Democrats and 13 percent of the Republicans say that we'd be better off if there was some sort of a mass killing of the other side.
00:50:00.360We're headed towards some really frightening stuff.