The Glenn Beck Program - Best of The Program ｜ Guests： Russell Vought, Rebecca Friedrichs, & Matthew Bocci ｜ 9⧸9⧸20

00:00:00.000 hey welcome to wednesday we have a big special on blaze tv tonight that is about brainwashing

00:00:05.580 our kids this time it's part two it's about uh the new sex ed course that is just horrific we

00:00:12.040 talk about it in great detail and and also what is happening in washington with uh the critical

00:00:20.840 theory which is marx it's what's destroying our country right now it's it's black lives matter 1.00

00:00:26.000 it's what's happening in our schools it's the cancel culture that's all critical race theory

00:00:30.500 donald trump is standing against it we have the director of the omb from the administration to

00:00:36.840 talk about how they're going to cut all of these programs how they are going to uh find out exactly

00:00:42.500 what is going on because now we've found out that deep state israel and the government unbeknownst to

00:00:49.980 the president has been funding critical race theory of propaganda and lessons inside the government

00:00:57.560 trying to turn our own institutions against itself it's phenomenal then we find another document dump

00:01:06.320 that the teachers unions along with the board of education if you will uh it has funded a radical

00:01:16.600 group trying to teach teachers to overthrow the government of the united states we got a comment

00:01:24.180 from betsy devos who is of course against all this this has been in play now since we think at least

00:01:30.820 2004 if you didn't believe in the deep state in 2016 i get it if you don't believe in it now you're a moron 0.67

00:01:39.800 what do we do about it all that and an incredible story from a kid who is nine who lost his dad on 9-11

00:01:48.480 the first survivor story from a child of a 9-11 victim all on today's podcast and don't forget to

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00:02:01.420 new studios america and so much more at blaze tv

00:02:04.180 yesterday we found out that the white house has ordered an end of critical race theory training

00:02:23.960 now for government agencies that's a start we need to get it out of our schools as well

00:02:30.240 um we have um uh russ vote on with us he's the director of office of management and budget and

00:02:37.360 what that does in case you don't know this is the guy responsible for overseeing the implementation

00:02:42.540 of the policy from the president the management the regulatory agendas all across the executive branch

00:02:49.600 kind of a tough job uh when you got a guy uh that is uh doing so much to cut all of that stuff

00:02:56.940 russ how are you sir i'm doing fine thanks for having me on glenn you bet so uh first of all

00:03:03.160 what what what was it that was seen at the federal level that got the president's attention

00:03:08.780 and said we got to stop this right now well i think you've seen a lot of these kinds of reports

00:03:14.360 begin to percolate up uh in the news and we specifically mentioned that in in uh the memo that

00:03:20.920 we put out on friday uh but you know the president has seen some of the great work that's been

00:03:25.600 uh put out there by chris ruffo uh some of the investigative work that's being done uh as a

00:03:31.460 result of whistleblowers quite frankly as we get a handle on uh the many areas where the agencies are

00:03:38.080 often contracting out with third parties that have ideological bents that are are teaching content

00:03:46.280 that's inconsistent with uh our the the long history of our country but quite frankly uh the future of

00:03:53.520 our country because if you if you teach the the workers of the federal government uh to hate their

00:03:59.220 country uh where are we going to be down the road so uh we did some important work last week on the

00:04:05.800 behalf of the president and uh we're going to be working to make sure it actually gets implemented

00:04:10.420 and it's not just a policy prescription so how pervasive was it how many agencies were involved uh

00:04:17.620 it was any of it systematic or was it all coming from you know this blm movement

00:04:23.460 it's not new uh that's for sure uh but to be honest with you glenn we're just getting

00:04:30.360 this at the beginning of this process we want to do a full review we want to have extensive

00:04:36.300 implementation guidance we want to do a formal rack up of all the spending we don't want it to just be

00:04:42.520 anecdotal although we have quite a bit of anecdotes uh that we know of which is why we put out

00:04:49.340 essentially a cease and desist letter uh to get started in the meantime but this has been going

00:04:54.680 on for a number of years it seems like and is not just uh a result of the last several months of of

00:05:01.700 the blm movement um and the the unrest that it has caused across the country uh i think it you know 1.00

00:05:10.180 if i'm guessing a lot of it was uh ramped up in the last administration and it it has probably

00:05:16.100 ramped up in the last several months as as uh agencies trying to make sense of the moment that

00:05:22.500 we're in uh but unfortunately they got some bad guidance and uh some bad instincts on that front

00:05:28.040 so this is the kind of stuff that makes a deep state possible uh when you have one arm of the

00:05:36.260 federal government teaching that the federal government is racist and all of the anti-american

00:05:42.860 marxist kind of teachings uh that just go on without really anyone saying anything or or i mean at this

00:05:53.980 point can you even put a finger on when it started or where it started or who's responsible

00:05:59.440 not yet and we're hoping that our review can can help us uh draw some firm conclusions from that and

00:06:07.220 if we need uh larger policy solutions we'll do that as well uh the president has made that clear

00:06:12.900 um but i do think that uh it is a challenge when you have these big agencies uh often the the policy

00:06:21.940 officials that the president has put in charge that represent the american people based on the last

00:06:26.740 election uh don't have awareness uh of the types of professional development or workplace training

00:06:34.540 that goes along and they're they i'm sure they get whiffs uh of of emails that get sent around

00:06:40.300 uh to invite them to this or that uh another aspect of i think what the president was trying to do glenn is

00:06:46.140 is is provide cover for the hard decisions that agency heads can now make uh to root this stuff out

00:06:52.840 we had seen this before the memo from from secretary of energy dan briette the minute he was made aware

00:06:58.420 of some of the trainings that were going on in the national labs by sandia corporation uh he immediately

00:07:05.220 asked for a review um but that that takes uh courage quite frankly and the president uh has basically said

00:07:14.060 look we're gonna we're gonna do this government wide uh and so all of my policy officials uh can get

00:07:20.820 after the work uh and you know i'll wear the pressure on on on his shoulder so so can you can

00:07:26.900 you and you may not be the right person to ask um but can there's a lot of people that see critical

00:07:33.360 theory they don't know what it is when you connect it to marxism and communism they roll their eyes they

00:07:39.520 think that's nonsense can you can you explain what it is and why it's so destructive sure and i had this

00:07:48.080 conversation with a dear friend of mine last night who who had concerns about the memo or at least

00:07:52.780 wanted to have an awareness of the memo and and that is critical race theory is the view of our

00:07:59.000 institutions that the reason we see some forms of inequity uh is because our institutions are rotten

00:08:06.700 that they are systemically racist that the founding was flawed because of uh its racism and it is a

00:08:17.100 kind of the the critical aspect of it is the critique is that uh we're not headed towards we were not

00:08:24.180 the civil rights movement was not successful that we uh have not moved towards a colorblind society and

00:08:30.380 that one of the reasons is that our institutions are flawed and are leading to ongoing uh inequities

00:08:38.360 and so that's the critical aspect of it that leads people to kind of think through um if you if

00:08:45.480 something's fundamentally flawed to the core then you need to tear it down the institution needs to

00:08:50.000 be brought down and we look out over the last several months and we see critical race theory on

00:08:56.060 all of our tvs the wages of of putting this into the bloodstream as opposed to a different view which i

00:09:03.320 think is what the american founding was about uh and i've i've i've seen on your programs before glenn

00:09:09.360 which is um we are individuals made in the image of god uh as and as a result we are afforded dignity

00:09:17.500 as a result of that and the highest aspirations of our country were reflected in the declaration of

00:09:22.620 independence and our constitution and over time we've we also have been reforming out of our system

00:09:30.720 little by little individuals by individuals movement by movement an effort to eliminate where there is

00:09:37.720 is sin and where there is uh evil and dysfunction and and that gets that that gets reformed out but it

00:09:46.680 doesn't it doesn't say that the whole enterprise the whole project that the whole country needs to be

00:09:52.300 torn down because it's rotten to the core and really those are the two those are the two worldviews

00:09:56.900 that are are represented here and and you see it with the hope and optimism of uh the trump administration

00:10:05.280 saying look this is the greatest country the world has ever seen and we're going to make reforms as we

00:10:11.120 see it where we need to to uh weed this out or weed that out or make reforms but we're not going to

00:10:17.560 just toss out the entirety of our great country which has led the world uh in in freedom and opportunity for

00:10:25.080 all people well i will tell you i i hope that the president starts to encourage companies to do the

00:10:30.960 because there's a lot of companies that are are engaging these same people that have been engaged

00:10:35.760 by the federal government to teach this nonsense um that that america is inherently evil and that whites

00:10:43.340 are inherently uh racist and cannot be forgiven uh by it have to be the only the only way you can uh

00:10:52.600 have an end to racism is with reverse racism if you will it's it's craziness and very dangerous

00:10:59.200 can i ask you one unrelated uh question um there was a story that came out today that talked about

00:11:05.420 how people are now starting to see um they're starting to fatigue on this this whole coronavirus

00:11:11.380 and they're starting to see this more as a crisis of budget is the president considering anything like

00:11:17.960 uh uh you know special economic zones or or you know naming the entire country uh you know an economic

00:11:27.100 uh an economic zone to be able to relieve the average business person with some uh from some of this

00:11:34.120 regulation that will help them get back on their feet uh well we feel like we have uh over the last

00:11:41.860 several months is to treat the economic crisis in the same way that we treat a public health crisis

00:11:46.540 uh to the extent where any emergency uh authority that agencies had on the table we have tried to use

00:11:54.620 uh by our count we were over about 700 different regulatory or enforcement relaxing uh decisions

00:12:02.960 that uh were done on the basis of an emergency and quite frankly we're not trying to make many of

00:12:08.440 those permanent and we're going through a review of that right now uh so we haven't done anything uh as

00:12:13.900 uh simple uh to be able to say hey the whole country is an opportunity zone but but piecemeal we have

00:12:21.900 tried to take that approach and we think we have uh been very successful on that front and if people

00:12:26.340 have good ideas uh we're or we definitely have an open mind to where we can do more as a businessman

00:12:32.280 that has people coming through my business all the time i i worry about litigation it's only a matter of

00:12:38.500 time of litigation somebody gets sick somebody says you haven't done enough whatever is there any

00:12:43.160 relief or protection from litigation that is coming uh we hope so we hope that that is a part of

00:12:49.920 uh any eventual phase four uh deal uh the president does think we need more legislative uh initiatives

00:12:59.580 uh and so that's why he's tried to continue to stay at the table even if the democrats on the hill have

00:13:05.220 been uh in in the magnitude of their asks uh made it such that we could not reach an agreement but of the

00:13:13.020 things that we believe are still important uh is that uh certainty that comes from potential lawsuits

00:13:20.180 uh and i think that's certainly been something that we've heard from the hill as as being an important

00:13:25.680 least from republicans on the hill well i will tell you um we really appreciate the cuts that you guys

00:13:31.320 have made and uh the things that you have done to roll back a lot of this craziness uh from the last

00:13:37.680 uh 15 years i'd like to send you some golden scissors but maybe it'd be better to have an axe

00:13:42.520 uh as you continue your job thank you so much i appreciate it

00:13:47.040 this is the best of the glenbeck program

00:13:53.620 i want to bring on uh somebody who i just think is remarkable her name is rebecca friedrichs

00:14:07.820 uh she's the author of standing up to goliath uh she's the founder and president of kids for kids

00:14:13.580 and country.com for kids and country.com or.org uh and uh she was a teacher she saw what was

00:14:21.360 happening she stood up and she realized she might be able to do more good outside of the system

00:14:27.540 rebecca how are you i'm doing great great to be here so rebecca after the special that we had

00:14:34.600 um last what two weeks ago i got a ton of email from people who said i went in and they treated me

00:14:42.220 like a moron they pretty much laughed at me they wouldn't give me any information

00:14:46.840 i i am convinced that unless we stand together we're not going to make an impact

00:14:54.220 you are exactly right we have experienced the same thing even i'm in california so even when we go to

00:15:01.980 the state house we we've come together hundreds of us at the senate education committee and they treat

00:15:07.900 us like morons they uh talk down to us they um will not pass any uh bills that we bring forward

00:15:17.360 saying look we just want some transparency we just want you to let us know what's going on before you

00:15:21.940 do this to our kids and they shut us down every single time we absolutely have to stand together

00:15:28.520 teachers can't fight it alone parents can't fight it alone and we need our churches to step up too

00:15:34.420 we need faith leaders with us and uh we need to help people to realize how important it is to vote

00:15:41.360 and to vote their values not to vote because they want free stuff because um if we can can start

00:15:48.120 getting good godly people into office at every level starting down at school board all the way up

00:15:54.820 uh into the national level then we can end this nightmare so the teachers union taking on the teachers 0.88

00:16:01.300 union i mean you you took them on uh all the way to the supreme court the california teachers union

00:16:07.160 um and the national education association yeah and tell me what happened because you didn't win you

00:16:14.280 you were it was looking like you were going to win and then scalia died that's right our case was

00:16:20.780 heard in january 2016 we were arguing for freedom from forced unionism for every single government

00:16:28.260 employee in the united states of america we didn't think it was right that we were forced to fund a

00:16:33.600 union that stood against our values that claimed to represent us but did not we didn't even want to be

00:16:39.460 members we didn't want their representation but we were forced to pay for example my husband

00:16:44.040 was a professor at san diego state and he was forced to pay 1200 a year in fees as a non-member

00:16:52.860 of the union and then they would file grievances against him when he was a director so we didn't

00:16:58.820 have a voice at all so we wanted to end that we took it to the u.s supreme court case was heard january

00:17:04.700 2016 we were poised to win with a five to four decision because sadly there are four justices on

00:17:12.020 that court who do the bidding of the unions and uh anyway one month after our case was heard

00:17:18.460 justice scalia died and there's a rule in the court that the justices have to be present when

00:17:25.320 the decision comes down so we lost his vote we had a four to four tie but the good news is another case

00:17:31.120 was built upon our case and it was heard in 2018 and june 27th 2018 every government employee in the

00:17:40.160 united states of america was freed from forced unionism so they all might still be stuck in a union

00:17:45.860 but they no longer have to pay them okay so here is the thing because i i've been saying the last few

00:17:53.140 days because everybody looks at their teacher and they're like my teacher is good and they love my

00:17:57.880 kid and blah blah blah blah blah um however you you might feel really good about a teacher but if they

00:18:06.260 are if they are in the teachers union or they um they sing the praises of the nea um i don't trust them

00:18:18.380 with my child because they they must be part of it or they're so ignorant i don't want them teaching my

00:18:25.600 child is that fair i i think it's fair but i and i think the listeners need to know one more thing

00:18:32.780 there's three issues with teachers and first of all they're all trapped in a corrupt system so it

00:18:38.520 doesn't matter how sweet or wonderful or incredible your particular teacher is if that teacher is in a

00:18:46.160 unionized school or school district that teacher's trapped in a corrupt system so the three things

00:18:52.440 people need to know about teachers is number one they either have no idea that the union is the bad

00:18:59.720 guy they don't they know things are corrupt but the union keeps telling them we're your savior we're

00:19:05.220 here to take care of you it's the legislators it's the school board it's the this but these teachers

00:19:11.320 have no idea that it's the union that put those legislators in office and those people on the school

00:19:15.880 board so these teachers truly are ignorant to what their union is doing that's a problem second thing

00:19:21.300 a lot of them know but they're too terrified to stand up to their union like you your whole entry to

00:19:27.540 this interview you were talking about how people are too afraid to stand up afraid of losing their

00:19:31.420 jobs and their career afraid of all that that's exactly how teachers are and they've been that way

00:19:35.840 for about 50 years and so then the last thing is we do have teachers who agree with the unions those are

00:19:42.480 the scary ones those are the activists that the unions have been planting in our schools so i agree

00:19:48.000 with you glenn teachers have got to stand up but parents have to stand up with them teachers can't do

00:19:55.540 it alone stand together and those teachers that don't know what's going on we have something on

00:20:01.040 our website called adopt a teacher takes three minutes to read it adopt every teacher you know

00:20:07.780 and educate them on the truth and then stand with them and we can end this so i'm looking at your

00:20:13.880 website now which is for kids and country.org uh and you adopt a teacher and it's it has uh videos there

00:20:25.680 um but it talks about embracing educate enlighten empathize encourage and empower so this is not going

00:20:33.400 in hostile this is going in uh saying hey look i just you know can we go have a cup of coffee and let

00:20:42.180 me pay for it because i just want to honor great teachers precisely and then i wrote an entire book

00:20:48.920 called standing up to goliath and i wrote that book with teachers in mind and parents by the way

00:20:54.480 because parents don't realize that the teachers unions have corrupted the pta and everything going

00:20:59.260 on in our schools so parents are actually paying into this uh sex ed and all these evils as well and 0.99

00:21:04.940 don't know it so um yes i ask people to lovingly adopt teachers they know but teachers in their

00:21:12.140 church teachers in their neighborhood their family their child's teacher and to approach them with

00:21:17.580 grace not to approach them attacking because maybe the teacher doesn't know doesn't have any idea 1.00

00:21:22.400 educate them most people don't have any idea all the lies teachers have been told so they try to talk

00:21:29.220 to teachers and the teachers say but this but that but what about what about and people don't know

00:21:33.860 what to say that's why i wrote a whole book all they have to do is hand it to them you know walk

00:21:39.160 them through it read a couple chapters and they'll take you to coffee and let's talk about it and just

00:21:43.640 help them warm up to the idea that um they've been duped that they've been deceived that they're

00:21:50.180 funding evil so that these teachers will stand up and get out of the union rebecca thank you so much

00:21:56.400 um i appreciate all of your hard work i urge you to join the effort and just go to for kids and

00:22:04.300 country.org uh and look at the information that is there um you i i still recommend rebecca that you

00:22:14.520 you organize and you and you help people come together uh in their own towns because everybody feels alone

00:22:23.000 and they don't know who's involved and if there's a way to hook up with each other uh you you need to

00:22:30.740 you need to hook up with each other because we won't be able to do this by ourselves thank you

00:22:35.360 rebecca i appreciate it for kids and country dot org the best of the glenbeck program

00:22:41.820 i just wanted you to start with this somebody from the school district walks into your classroom

00:22:51.500 you don't know anything about it but it's about nine o'clock in the morning and what happens

00:22:56.960 yeah so they pulled me out of my classroom and i was met by my brother in the hallway and we were

00:23:04.120 informed that a plane hit my dad's building that my dad was safe and that they were evacuating the

00:23:09.100 tower as a nine-year-old kid i i kind of subconsciously thought something was odd in the sense that they

00:23:15.400 didn't allow us to really ask questions about what was going on um i still don't think too much of it

00:23:20.520 though and i tried to just go about the rest of the day as normally as possible um what perplexed me

00:23:27.000 the most was the fact that so many kids were getting pulled out of my school and and yet we were still

00:23:33.700 in school nick and i my brother that my mom kept us in school because she had spoken to my father and

00:23:39.660 and then started calling family who was coming over to the house to try to help her because i also had

00:23:45.580 two young brothers at the time there was just so much chaos and so much commotion at the house that

00:23:51.500 she wanted us to stay in school for as long as possible and so you were in school and i got and you

00:23:55.760 weren't watching it but the rest of the students they were watching what was happening what was

00:24:00.600 happening right they weren't no they weren't watching it um they were informed they pulled

00:24:06.700 us out of the classroom and then told the rest of the students what exactly happened okay um still

00:24:12.220 then i don't think that the students maybe my classmates knew maybe they didn't know but i

00:24:17.180 actually don't really know what they said to them okay um so we they kept us in another classroom for

00:24:23.700 a little while while they were informing the students on all the details that they had i guess

00:24:27.520 and ultimately um like i said like we we were like the only kids left in school and um and they

00:24:35.780 were all fucked out and at the end of the day when we got on the bus we were the only two kids on the 0.98

00:24:40.300 bus and just i remember getting back home and and just being like met immediately with all the chaos

00:24:47.660 that i had already described before um and it got worse once i got inside and um the tv was on and the

00:24:55.100 footage was on and people were upset and and calling uh my dad and calling hotlines and uh there was a

00:25:01.660 can of a sherald missing hotline too they were calling and hospitals etc it was one thing after

00:25:07.960 another um and ultimately my grandmother kind of ushered my brother and i out of the house to go play

00:25:13.740 with our friends because um she didn't want us to continue to witness sure uh the commotion at the

00:25:19.160 house now your dad two weeks before 9-11 woke up in the middle of the night screaming

00:25:25.080 he had a dream tell me about that well he insisted it wasn't a dream he insisted it was uh it was a

00:25:32.840 ghost and and that his late aunt who had died of als probably 20 years prior uh was standing at the

00:25:40.000 foot of his bed um in perfect health condition and holding his late sister who died as an infant

00:25:45.680 and for him that moment was life-changing except unfortunately he didn't act upon the feeling that

00:25:53.280 he was i guess uh instinctively feeling inside um he didn't he didn't uh follow through i guess too

00:25:59.900 you know he wanted to quit he then expressed that he was not happy he was telling my mom he thought he

00:26:06.560 was going to die young that he wanted to be cremated and this was all leading up to 9-11 and and my mom

00:26:11.900 just basically being like you're 38 years old you're healthy you're in like the best shape of your life

00:26:16.980 and you're talking about wanting to be cremated like it just it was incomprehensible for her and so

00:26:23.780 um that morning when he called my mom he called from his cell phone uh his desk phone was out the

00:26:30.680 line was out and he got through on his cell phone which surprised my mom because she thought that he

00:26:37.060 was gonna quit that weekend before he said he was gonna quit the final and so um and and essentially

00:26:44.180 what happened was he only would call her when he was leaving when he was out of the building or out

00:26:50.360 of the office from his cell phone all the other times he would call from his uh desk phone so for

00:26:56.380 her to receive the cell phone call to her she thought he was he actually walked out and and and my father

00:27:02.820 was a was a joker he liked to pull pranks on people and so when he told her a plane hit the building

00:27:07.880 she was blown away and excuse me initially she was thinking he was joking and then he told her to turn

00:27:13.840 the tv on and then she's she's blown away by what she's seeing and realize that this is not a joke

00:27:18.380 so um you for several days um you and your brothers um actually would call your dad's phone

00:27:31.960 and leave messages to your dad thinking that maybe he was still alive

00:27:37.800 there was the slightest possibility in my mind that perhaps he lost his cell phone maybe he called

00:27:47.920 his cell phone um like you know so uh my mom actually retrieved the the phone messages because

00:27:54.960 um she thought that he may have called his cell phone and lost it too she was holding on to that

00:28:00.040 belief as well but for me i was calling that phone and hoping that he'd pick up the other line

00:28:05.140 um and uh i left voicemails on his phone until his mailbox was full and couldn't receive any more

00:28:11.680 and um just basically begging him to come home and obviously he was you know naive but just not

00:28:17.960 really understanding it and um until they finally came and told us that they found him so you write in

00:28:25.920 your book that the house was full of family and friends and when you looked at the television you saw

00:28:32.360 people jumping uh from the towers and that stuck with you and it actually led you kind of down a

00:28:42.280 darker path if you will of of trying to what figure out what they were thinking and and trying to piece

00:28:51.580 maybe what your dad was thinking and feeling at that time tell me about the yeah that's go ahead

00:28:58.220 that's that's exactly right it was um i knew a few things regarding my dad's final moments i knew

00:29:06.020 that he had made phone calls to my mom the first one that i described before the second one was

00:29:11.840 shortly thereafter and he said goodbye the last call that i know of and that my family knows of

00:29:17.780 is that he spoke to his brother um and said goodbye so those phone calls happen within minutes of the

00:29:25.080 plane hitting which to me symbolizes that my father knew he was going to die and that he accepted

00:29:31.100 his fate and and and and faith that head-on and in a courageous manner and and what was so remarkable

00:29:36.720 to me looking back is the fact that he didn't sound scared on the phone and he didn't want my mom

00:29:41.820 to fear and he didn't want my uncle to fear and he and he tried to portray that to them um

00:29:46.760 and so that was just such a powerful thing for me and and that courageousness was was really

00:29:52.820 impactful for me um and it really resembles my father as a man too um but the question that

00:30:00.780 started to loom in my mind was the fact that the majority of jumpers from the north tower came from

00:30:06.160 canterford sherald so i thought maybe he was one of them and so i had seen the documentary that

00:30:12.700 showed family members identifying their loved ones through these photos of jumpers or people hanging

00:30:18.560 out of the windows and i reached out to photographers myself as a 13 14 year old kid asking them to meet

00:30:25.800 with me because they had met with widows and blown up photos for them so that they could see um if that

00:30:33.120 that in fact was their loved one these photographers never reached back out to me so i continued to do my

00:30:39.920 own research and ask family close to me if they thought he jumped uh everyone told me no and eventually

00:30:46.780 stopped engaging in those conversations and it then took one person to finally engage with me and

00:30:54.160 fully take on all that responsibility and answer those questions and i was an uncle through marriage

00:30:59.480 who exploited my vulnerabilities and sexually abused me and and told me my father jumped from the towers

00:31:05.580 but in reality that wasn't true this is where this story just goes uh in a direction you just don't see

00:31:12.140 coming uh we're talking to the first time i've ever talked to uh somebody who was a child of a parent

00:31:20.000 uh that who's lost the life was lost on 9-11 uh for the first memoir from a child of 9-11 uh called

00:31:28.720 sway his name is matthew bocce and the book is quite incredible so this is the part of the book uh where

00:31:36.840 you're 14 and you're using drugs and alcohol um right and what how old were you when this uncle by

00:31:46.840 marriage uh comes into your life and starts to it was yeah um so the period of grooming pretty much

00:31:56.440 began when i was like 12 years old um i stopped um well i i didn't really engage in in the same manner

00:32:05.280 that i did in the in the next couple years because um there was other family members who

00:32:09.720 would talk to me about 9-11 so unbeknownst to me he was already grooming me um obviously i know that

00:32:16.720 now but um the the abuse happened when i was 14 um and that's right around that time exactly when i

00:32:23.920 started uh drinking and drugging and yeah and in reality though my story is a story of progression

00:32:29.040 in terms of drugs and alcohol i was a recreational drinker weekends with my friends um pot was

00:32:35.800 you know later brought into the mix like later into high school and wasn't uh an addiction by any means

00:32:42.180 um but ultimately when i got to college um i started experimenting with other drugs uh painkillers

00:32:49.960 especially and other pills and that's when i started to feel some true relief um that i guess i

00:32:55.660 have been searching for for quite some time and once i felt that i i was going to chase that feeling

00:33:01.140 forever um or so i thought back then but uh it took a lot of struggle and determination to get to the

00:33:07.820 point i'm at today so your your mom told you at some point look for the signs from your dad

00:33:15.680 and um you had an odd spiritual moment will you go into that a bit absolutely yeah i i had been in

00:33:28.480 and out of treatment centers for two years prior to getting sober officially um i never tried really

00:33:35.660 going to meetings i never gave sobriety a true shot i tried just cutting out certain substances and

00:33:41.380 just maybe drinking alcohol and other things like that um and then never worked for me ultimately i

00:33:46.800 had been brought back and inevitably i would be back to the same stuff that i was doing in the past

00:33:51.780 so um my dad after he passed away um there was a sign from my father my mom was first told to look for

00:34:00.840 the signs and that sign that happened was a two about two days after 9-11 and a fly landed in her night

00:34:09.340 on her nightstand in her room and she took that instinctively as her sign that my dad was safe

00:34:14.160 and not coming home and that fly ended up staying in our house for six months after 9-11 and would be

00:34:19.420 um the sign that would be constant with me throughout my life into my adolescence and into my teenage or

00:34:27.500 late teenage and early 20s so um essentially i had been facing legal trouble but didn't really care

00:34:36.620 about that i was more so concerned with continuing to get high and so what i did was thinking that i

00:34:43.380 was going to be able to manipulate my way around a drug test gone in with uh a detox mouthwash that

00:34:49.900 would give me clean saliva i was under the impression it would be a mouth swab test i would

00:34:54.500 later realize that it was a urine a urine test which i did not have fake urine i had left it at my

00:35:01.200 house so i went back home after failing and i was given one last chance and so um i didn't know what

00:35:08.920 to do i knew that i could go back in a month use the fake urine continue to get high and continue to

00:35:14.760 live the life of shame and misery that i was living on a daily basis but i walked outside that day i was

00:35:21.880 home alone and i looked up in the sky and was just like mesmerized by a crystal clear blue sky day

00:35:28.900 that brought me right back 9 11 and initially i i just sat there and started crying and i was

00:35:36.360 hysterical and i asked my father i said dad please give me a sign i need help and i would say in an

00:35:42.740 instant a fly lands on the railing that i was leading against and it's this very particular fly

00:35:48.740 so it's not you know i say a fly for me and my family we know what it is and can point it out you

00:35:53.740 know but um it lands there and it would move around in a circle and look at me and stop move around in

00:36:00.120 a circle and stop and i filmed it on my phone and uh i was like i said hysterically crying and right

00:36:06.440 after i that fly flew away i said this is my this is it this is my sign and i called up a detox facility

00:36:12.320 and i said i need a bed as soon as possible and uh i went to treatment and i've been sober since

00:36:17.240 nananana

00:36:18.560 nananana

00:36:18.840 nananana

The Glenn Beck Program - September 09, 2020

Best of The Program ｜ Guests： Russell Vought, Rebecca Friedrichs, & Matthew Bocci ｜ 9⧸9⧸20

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