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On today's episode of the Glenn Beck Program, Glenn talks about the fallout from the worst day in the stock market since the dinosaur, President Trump's zero-for-zero tariffs, and who will pay the price for the cover-up on Joe Biden's mental health?
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richer than you think okay it's the day after what was supposed to be the worst day in the stock
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market since the dinosaur okay um it didn't it wasn't that yesterday but let me let me show you
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how you can explain to your friends and family what president trump is aiming to do with all of
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the tariffs so they'll stop panicking stop panicking and understand it's a game reset it's a total
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it's almost like the great reset except in a good way also sage steel joins me and amy parnes to talk
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about the behind the scenes and who if anyone will pay the price for the cover-up on joe biden's mental
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us now let's get to work you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program all right so we
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survived yesterday thank goodness yesterday was kind of scary there for a while uh because when i
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first got in they were screaming on television 37 minutes before the stock market
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and they're like okay all right um and then it turns out to be like nothing i mean we lost one
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percent but really from in the morning this is gonna be the worst day in the history of all mankind
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you remember january 6 gonna be worse than that okay all right calm down so you know europe
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it went down six percent markets worldwide went down we went down one percent and uh that's because
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president trump who announced a zero for zero tariff scheme i love that word used all over in in
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mainstream media today trump's tariff scheme oh that sounds honest doesn't it uh would slap 20 duty on
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things like from the european union well european union came out yesterday uh led by their trade
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commissioner who i'm not even going to attempt uh to even pronounce the name because it has
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like little down arrows over four of the letters in the name so i don't even know what that means
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anyway uh they countered with their own uh zero for zero uh proposal yesterday and trump said
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now i'm not good enough they're like a zero for zero now why he said you gotta buy oil from us
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now in a sane world they would immediately go okay can we get a good deal on that if we're buying all
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of our oil from you can we get a good deal on that yes we'll give you a great deal buy your oil from us
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and everybody in nato would go hey that'll keep us off the teat of russia and china what do you say
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we buy oil and gas from the united states so it's a good thing because just like all of the nato
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conversations that they've been having with uh the eu if the united states has a national interest
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at stake you want to go in and march across europe wait a minute they are a major factor to our economy
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because they are buying our oil uh i don't think you're gonna do that are they this blind to not
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understand what is happening now we're no longer gonna fight the wars just to fight wars no unless it's
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in our national interest now it is in our national interest to have a strong west but not for free
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gang no so i told you last week that he named the tariffs liberation day and i think that is because
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after world war ii we had liberation day we had the day where everybody is free from the nazis and
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and and everything else um and the united states did something that no country has ever ever ever
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even considered doing first of all we became the broker to bring all of the art and everything else
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back that had been stolen we didn't take those spoils for ourselves we returned them to the original
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orders and we're still doing it it's incredible nobody has ever done that then we had the marshall plan
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that was 13 billion dollars but in today's money that's 135 billion between 1948 1952 why what was it
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we were rebuilding so they could have factories to open up for their people now an evil country company
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would or country would just say no you're gonna buy everything from us you will be our slaves now we
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rebuilt europe so they could have jobs and factories we helped them rebuild volkswagen and mercedes-benz
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hello okay we didn't have any obligation to do it but we saw it as morally right so we did it
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so we allowed the high tariffs on american goods while keeping ours low because it was good for them
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and we also shouldered the burden of their defense through nato we spent billions of dollars annually
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the the u.s defense spending accounts for 68 percent of nato's total budget roughly 560 billion dollars
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last year alone meanwhile europe was prospering now why aren't they now because they had sugar daddy that
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would be there for the old when you have a sugar daddy you tend to get lazy why are the american
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people so lazy now because we have the united states government being everybody's sugar daddy
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oh they'll just give it to me oh it doesn't matter if i make a mistake with trillions of dollars they'll
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just bail me out that doesn't work okay it didn't work for them it's not working for us
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so we we go down this road after liberation day the first time and we get to the 1970s and now we're
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getting fat and sassy and we're like you know what we control the whole world we can just make stuff up
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and so we decide to get off the gold standard because half of the politicians want to have big war
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and the other half wants to have you know big uh big welfare state well you can't do both and like
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any good parent our government said you can have both you know what you could have both yeah and so
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we got off the gold standard but we played a trick on everybody okay when we got off the gold standard
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everybody around the world went wait a minute wait a minute we hold your dollars because they're good
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as good as gold we can turn a dollar in to your federal reserve or your treasury and we can demand
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we get a dollar's worth of gold now you're saying you're not going to have that standard anymore so
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i can't take a dollar and buy a dollar's worth of gold no but you can trust us oh run from those people
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so we said we've made a special deal that's going to be super good for everybody we're gonna we're gonna
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have u.s dollars become a petrodollar you'll only be able to buy saudi arabia's oils oil and oil from
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opec by using a u.s dollar so it's as good as gold it's just black gold oh okay and then when that
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didn't do enough we also said to them by the way we're going to also just come in and we're gonna
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we're gonna buy all you know you bought maytag washing machines and everything else we're gonna move
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maytag to your countries so you can build it and we'll become your buyers now we'll become the
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buyer of the world okay you really that's not a good idea just to become the consumer of the world
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eat eat eat eat eat no you also have to do some other things and we do export a lot of things but
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we're not able to sustain ourselves every country should be able to sustain itself so we created the
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demand for german machinery from japanese tvs and everything else the petrodollar made it happen
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and then what happened our manufacturing jobs start dropping uh from 33 percent of the u.s employment
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in 1950 now manufacturing jobs only eight percent and i'm not saying that manufacturing is the place
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you ought to be but it's important to understand what else was happening at the same time because
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of manufacturing our system was reshaped and this is again why donald trump is saying this is liberation
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day our our our country was reshaped our society was shaped in subtler ways after world war one and
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world war two we started having the assembly line and everything else and we retooled our education
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now why why did we go from one of the world's best educators with the best educated in the world in
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the history of the world to a bunch of just morons have you met the american people lately uh we're just
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morons why because the giant corporations did not need thinkers they wanted just obedient workers
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this is why and i just i want you to hold on to this because it explains everything about our education
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system and you heard it a million times when you went to school boys and girls take out your pencils
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and your paper and write this down because this will be on the test
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what does that tell you that tells you the teacher is teaching to the test
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and is teaching you what to think not how to think okay why because if you're in the assembly line
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i don't need you to think just do it well but why why am i putting this and this together wouldn't it
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be better no just do it okay you're not a thinker those people went to college they have a degree
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that's why you couldn't get into business unless you had a college degree because you had to learn
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how to think if you were going to work in the office upstairs above the factory all right so this
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was all planned for this economy the way it was working now we spend more money per pupil
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fourteen thousand eight hundred and twenty five dollars per pupil in 2022 yet we're 36th in math
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13th in reading uh and uh we've created the most expensive and least effective educational system
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the world has ever seen is that working for us is the way we fight our wars working for us because
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we then also became the world's policemen after after world war ii we said you know what we'll take
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care of this since the cold wars end we we have been fighting the same way that we were fighting back
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in 1948 and 52 against the soviet union everything was geared for that big kind of war that's over
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now it's over the u.s military spent six trillion dollars on military operations in the middle east
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alone and what do we have to show for it strained alliances a new airport that china now has that
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we gave to them in afghanistan and a ballooning national debt of 34 trillion dollars so now this
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puts us into like the 1990s and we're seeing that this is going to start to come apart and this is
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in the 80s ron reagan started talking about saying there's a debt and we're gonna have to pay this
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someday and it's social security and everything else these things don't work the math doesn't work out
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and he said soon after the turn of the century you will see it will all start to fall apart and we
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will be out of good options we should fix it now and everybody said that but that's when they came
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up with we got a lockbox we got a little lockbox we're putting all the money from social security
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a little lockbox they don't have a lockbox okay that was a lie again but it was just to say we got
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a lockbox so you can have it all no no so now we have 34 trillion dollars in debt and instead of
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addressing the root causes what did our elites do this is the key to all of it you want to understand
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what donald trump is trying to do this is the key to all of it sometime i think during the clinton
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administration the elites understood that wait a minute this thing is not sustainable the way it's
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running it's not sustainable and a lot of them didn't believe in the united states they didn't
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believe in the freedom of the declaration of independence and our our bill of rights etc etc
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and so they thought you know there's a lot of stuff bad about america so is it that bad that it's
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going to pass away no but we don't want a revolution we don't want blood in the streets
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so let's just manage the decline okay and we can even help it along enter the modern climate change
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agenda which is not about saving the planet it is about helping the decline of the west
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killing our energy supply all this esg social government standards dei uh even blm all of this
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stuff is rooted in various social concerns but they're co-opted into a broader narrative decouple
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america from its history its entrepreneurial spirit its faith everything that empowers the individual
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and fosters self-reliance we've got to undermine it so this is the managed decline
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and that is in stark contrast to what made america america because what what made us was we had a country
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of stable laws we were unified not in our differences we were unified in the few principles
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that we had in common our bill of rights so we had stable laws rooted in the long longest running
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constitution in the world provided a predictable framework for business a stable government all of
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this stuff educated populace hard-working ethical people that were god-fearing and abundant cheap energy
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okay how much of that is true anymore you want to make america great you've got to fix those things
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so what is donald trump really doing why would he say no europe i got you i see you're zero zero but
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you're going to buy our oil as well his strategy is a radical departure from the post-war order
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it's high stakes do not get me wrong but it's to force the world to renegotiate on america's terms
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to shape the next chapter of the world when he rejected uh the zero for zero offer from europe he wasn't
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just playing hardball he's signaling a new era by our energy we're your friends in the west let's help
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each other this isn't a charity this is a partnership and when it's good for both sides then that's a great
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partnership most favored nation status should mean mutual benefit not one-sided sacrifice
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so his uh approach is really what they tried to do i guess with the american free trade agreement in 94
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but that had so many flaws in it and everything else but it's can we just bring people together
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that are friends and let's help each other all of us win now i want you to know agree or disagree
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it's it's a it's really a a bold plan a very bold plan uh and a little frightening at times it's like
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a roller coaster ride um but i kind of sit in the back seat and i'm like it's going to be interesting
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to see how this all works out you know that's the way you have to it's the way if you're going to
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survive you have to watch society be engaged at your level with your friends your family but you need
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to say going to be interesting to see how they work this out i i have no idea how this goes but
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this is a new dawn now and that's what you have to understand that's what he's shooting for a new dawn
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the great reset except it's a reset in reverse instead of managing decline trump is aiming to save
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the patient he believes and i believe you believe i think that our best days are not behind us they're
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ahead and when you want to win big you have to risk big you know europe wasn't built with with a lot
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of strings attached we did attach some strings um they're not rushing to our aid now nor should we
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expect them to we don't need any foreign strings we need to stand on our own you know elon musk said
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i hope the united states and europe can establish a very close partnership effectively creating a free
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trade zone between europe and north america that's worth fighting for it is and if you see the world
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i think the way the president sees it the way i see it right now this is a huge gamble to revitalize
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the glenn beck program did you see stew that uh gina carano has just uh won a lawsuit against disney
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yeah that's a big that doesn't normally happen does it no it really has some big lawyers no uh and
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there's a reason for that walt disney learned his uh lesson at about 19 i think 29 or 30 something
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he had oswald the rabbit and uh he leaves them he leaves universal and he's like don't worry and
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universal's like all right well go ahead and he's like we're not afraid because i got oswald the rabbit
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and they're like no actually we have oswald the rabbit and he had already quit he had already put
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the gears into motion and he had nothing oh he didn't realize he didn't own that he no he had no
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idea so he gets on a train and his brother is freaking out in the west coast he's like wait a minute
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what and he's like yeah well don't worry i got something else he had nothing he gets on the
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train and he starts doodling and on a napkin he draws a mickey mouse this is why you love him so
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much these stories oh yeah i love it yeah yeah he risked everything and he had actually nothing but
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then he made it up afterwards and it all worked out it worked out anyway what are you saying uh anyway
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uh uh so he's he he was bound and determined i will never be behind the eight ball ever again
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so he created the nastiest uh attorney firm in the history of the world i don't think there's any
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corporation that is more nasty than you know than than the disney corporation here we have two stories
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now we have gina carano and the last time i saw somebody win was sage steel yeah that's right that's
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two women that have beaten disney i think that's remarkable uh i wanted to call uh our good friend
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sage steel get her on sage how are you hello glenn i'm great thank you and i'm so happy for gina it's
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not over yet but this is a major battle right you won right she she actually now disney has to turn
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over information about how everybody is uh you know paid on the mandalorian and any other star wars shows
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um uh and they didn't want to do that but would you agree with me sage that that's just that's a
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remarkable win absolutely it's a huge win and also i mean disney's delay tactics have just been
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ongoing and they lost that too a couple of months ago when they were trying to get the lawsuit thrown
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out all together and judge said let's go quit procrastinating and so this is massive because when
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you look at how they paid other stars on these projects pedro pascal rosario dawson other people
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um basically this is about disney trying to hide what they've been paying those people this whole time
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um while allowing them to go off on social media and pedro pascal you know comparing donald trump to
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hitler one of those and that's fine to do on your social media but gina carano gets fired so now that
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they have to reveal these financial records this goes to show what gina would have made had they
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not wrongly terminated her and this is a major major victory what is it like when you realize
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oh good lord they're sending the mouse with the briefcase my way what is that like when you realize
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you're in a lawsuit against disney well first of all filing the lawsuit against disney is not fun
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right did everybody in the room when you said that would everybody go uh what did you just say
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you're gonna do yeah you idiot yeah i mean david versus goliath for sure i mean i had disney i had
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disney i had gina on my show last summer and i hadn't met her i of course had followed her story and
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when we met we just hugged and it was an emotional episode because we both understood in a very unique
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way that i hope many others don't have to understand the fear that comes with it but at some
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point you get pushed around enough and you say no this is wrong and if i stay silent then it's on me
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and then i know personally i couldn't have looked myself in the mirror and gina felt the same way and
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she has worked so hard and done so professionally you know to the nth degree for all those years um
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gina's the one thing i didn't have and my attorney is the best in the business brian friedman um who
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represented megan kelly who represents tucker carlson who's representing justin baldoni against
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crazy blake lively right now my attorney is the best and he is a dear friend of mine now too
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gina has elon musk on her side like financially she's in a little different situation than me because
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elon musk is putting the bill for her because he's standing up for what's right and the first amendment
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so you look at gina what do you think you have what what what was it that you bonded with
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on that episode that you did initially i think it was the obvious okay wow two people who stood up
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to disney two women like yeah what happened like who are we what happened to our lives and it was just
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that obvious bond because it was such a big deal and people going whoa um but more so it was the
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betrayal that we felt coming from what we once thought was the best company on earth um and such an honor
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to work with them and for them and then when you realize that you are just cast aside because you
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didn't believe what they wanted us to believe which goes against everything they preach diversity
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of thought and acceptance and inclusion and all of those things you realize that they were full of it
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um and people that you looked up to people that you worked alongside for years and years and years
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and what they said about you publicly and privately um certainly never to your face um there is just a
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real sense of loss for relationships um because gina is as tough as they get i have realized that
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i'm tougher than i thought never wanted to be but gina is as tough as they get and she was hurt um i think
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that's kind of and this is not like oh woe is me we we never gina doesn't want sympathy this is about
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what's right and calling these companies out and that's the other thing we bonded on is calling these
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companies out the biggest companies in the world because if we don't and expose it because we have
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the ability based on platforms that we've you know it's it's a blessings i've had these platforms right
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if we don't use them to expose and therefore hopefully maybe fingers crossed prevent other
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companies from doing the same bs to uh to these people women men anywhere doesn't matter black white
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green blue lgbt i don't care just treat us equally and not punishing us if we don't agree with what
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you say because by the way you're going to say this today and that tomorrow who can keep up right
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diversity of thought first amendment and so we bonded over so much and i just i i admire her and her
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courage to continue this because she completely threw her career away as well as people said i did but
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look she's standing up for what's right and glenn i told you when we we were together last month
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doing your show in texas the harder right versus the easier wrong gina is doing the harder right
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and that takes courage i'm so honored to know her you know and i tell you it doesn't i i think you grow
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from this you're you're seeing new success she's seeing new success and you have become bigger than
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what you were in many ways because um you're now a human success story you're not you now have
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experienced strife and trouble and come out the other side and realizing i didn't hurt so much i mean
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it hurt but it didn't hurt like i thought i was gonna hurt i thought i was gonna burn myself up
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uh and uh i didn't and so you become this the this additional success story that i think you know you
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look at you look at the what's the woman who's now playing snow white whatever her name is yeah
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um so you know they're not firing her which a must drive you nuts um they're not firing her and she
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tubed the crown jewel i mean next to mickey mouse it is snow white um and that's the that's the movie
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that built that company and uh for her to go in and destroy the story of snow white all of that money
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because you guys weren't bleeding money on on you and your your point of view or her point of view
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absolutely not right absolutely not i mean you figure no matter who's in office about half the
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country agrees with you right which means the other half disagrees it's usually right down the middle
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and they could have gotten out of that mess with rachel i think over a year ago when she first
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started to mouth off and maybe too much had been invested if nothing else why don't you at least
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have a chat okay fine don't fire her like you did us or and i didn't get fired i mean i i we settled my
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lawsuit and i chose to leave um gina was fired though rachel was allowed to stay much worse than i think
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gina ever said and i don't know who could disagree with that and you could show the direct damages you
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could show the damages look at the numbers exactly and they chose to stick with her and now look so
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you reap what you sow for sure but the double standard is the reason what must be what must
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be called out and they could have at least pulled rachel aside and said we need you to camp down a little
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bit this isn't good for business uh maybe they didn't she didn't listen if so okay that's a whole
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other story but to your point about like what you gain when you do stand up um you realize it's just a
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lot bigger than you yeah and that's and when people come up to gina and and and come up to me
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and i've had fathers come up to me because they've been afraid to stand up for their daughters in sports
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and why are boys competing against their daughter because they're afraid to go to the school board
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meeting and get fired the fear is real like we know that so i am so grateful um that i chose to stand
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up and i know gina is because the people that you are affecting just by doing that standing up in her
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case for freedom of true freedom of speech it is everything that's so much bigger than any career
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i could have dreamt of having and same with her disney is getting their comeuppance and they
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need to and they seem to it's so obvious they do this to themselves and that is why so many people
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were more than okay to see what's happening with the snow white debacle shame on them uh i may switch
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subject here for a second stew um i'm doing something with the diesel brothers uh here in
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a couple of months and i'm taking one of my my 1934 race car uh out uh and we're just going to open it
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up on a track and two other cars and uh you were you were leaving my studio and you were going to the
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airport and you were like i'll get an uber and i'm like no no i'll take you to the airport i'm going
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that way so i take you to the airport and you are the biggest car hound i have i mean i'd be broke if
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i were married to you because we would you'd let me buy all the cars my wife is like stop it stop
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i'd be like what are we buying this weekend i know listen the one the one thing i regret the biggest
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regret i have in life right now is that i didn't ask you for a selfie that day when glenn back drove me
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to the airport and what kind of car was that it was a continental gtc thank you yeah and it was
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forest green and it was stunning and the top was down and my wild hair was bigger than ever and i'm
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like no one's gonna believe this but i didn't want to be tacky and ask you you should have a selfie i
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know i want to make sure the world knows i want to make sure you're going to come out when we do the
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diesel brothers thing stew is going to be there i'm going to be there and i'd love to have you and
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you drive one of the cars okay is everybody listening you can play this back glenn said
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you drive one of the way how are you doing on accidents do you have many accidents
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but i can give me that stick shift let's go no no accidents not them but i do have a little bit
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of a lead foot but i mean what what a waste yeah i know you don't take those cars and open them up do
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you like do you like uh electric engines not even an engine driven it like twice i i don't know
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listen i i appreciate how you barely tap it and then it's like whiplash and you're gone like i
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appreciate that but i i guess i'm old school give me that clutch i know me do it that's the real
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strength and power you know come on yeah sage great talk to you we'll talk we'll talk again thanks for
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joining us thank you glenn thank you take care sage steel host of the sage steel show you can
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get that wherever you get your podcast and at sage steel.com you're listening to the best of the
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glenn beck program amy's with us amy pardons hill senior political correspondent author of fight
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inside the wildest battle for the white house amy how are you hi glenn good thanks for having me
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you bet uh so you know i can we play the uh can we play just that little collage of all the people
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that said this wasn't happening do we have that can we play that real quick joe biden has a vision
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he has knowledge he has a strategic thinker this is a very sharp president in terms of his public
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presentation if he makes a slip of the tongue here or there what's the deal you're asking me my
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personal opinion uh he is sharp uh he is on top of things he when we have uh meetings with him with
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his staff he's constantly pushing us getting trying to get more information i can tell you this was the
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day before that interview i can tell you he was sharper than anyone i've spoken to about a very
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this was happening all the time amy everyone was saying how sharp he is that is that was according
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your book just absolutely not true and everybody in the white house knew that how how go ahead
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yeah no it was uh it's something that we really dug into in reporting out this book um and we had
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questions about what interactions certain people had with the president we we detail how eric swalwell a
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congressman from california for example attended a congressional picnic with uh the president a year before the
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debate debacle a disaster and um and he had to almost remind then president biden who he was and this
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was someone who he competed against in the 2020 presidential election um he should know who he is um and
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there's detail after detail about that in this book you know that you in your book you talk about how
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there were bets being paid how they were looking you know shopping for judges on who was going to swear
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her in they thought he was going to die before the election um i mean did you did you get the sense
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from anyone while you're researching this book that anyone thought maybe this isn't really good for the
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constitution i mean that's why right now you're seeing a lot of errors um thrown in the direction
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excuse me of the the former president and his aides um people are really really upset about they think
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it's a cover-up they think that you know they should have been more candid even within their own party
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about the president's cognitive abilities um and you know glenn i i covered the president for a long time
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um and i tried to get us after the story and the white house was constantly i know my colleagues were as
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well it's not like any of us were asleep at the switch but the white house would batter us uh when we
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asked questions about his mental acuity and his age it was a constant constant battle but was there
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was there anybody that knew that should have spoken out i mean in the press or anything i mean it's one
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thing to it's one thing to speculate it's one thing to i hear rumors but and if you're you're shut off
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from it but you know in the white house it seems like there were quite a few people that knew this is a
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disaster yeah a who's who's running the country at that point who was the president this close set
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of advisors kept him really close and that's why i think you didn't see him as much right now president
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trump is out there talking to reporters every day i think the press corps wanted to see biden do some
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similar things and take a similar media approach and he did not um you know and and we we detail in
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the book you know there's there's a fundraiser where someone you know says that he he looks like he's
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going to die at the fundraiser there are other moments where um you know we we take you inside
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phil murphy's house and we detail how he's speaking to just a couple of a couple dozen fundraisers
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at a small house and he needs fluorescent tape on the floor to guide him from place to place he needs a
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teleprompter you know these aren't common things for at a house at a house yes um and you know makeup
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when he this is this was another revelation in our book whenever he traveled overseas he was met with a
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makeup artist that was his first order of business sometimes he met me he missed meetings because the
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makeup artist was there um to touch him up they were clearly concerned about the optics around his age
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and around his mental acuity you you write in one point that the makeup artist he goes in he sits
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down for the makeup and then he calls it a day and that was it yeah yeah and you know these are aides
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that were talking to us about this obviously they knew about it and they said at times he looked really
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frazzled he would get out of the limousine and you know would look around and would would know where
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he was um and so yeah it was it's very startling even to the people who uh were telling us these
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stories but you know it's one thing to be um it's one thing to go yeah that was really weird and i guess
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it's another to realize that is the man that has to make the decision um you know for the country god
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forbid were attacked or whatever um and he's not there there was was there anyone inside fighting
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and saying we have got to alert the american people we have to invoke the 25th amendment is 25th isn't it
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so um yeah we've got to invoke the 25th amendment this isn't right the people have in have put their
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power in this man he is no longer capable of making these decisions i think a lot of people would
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have had respect for that instead i walk away going was there no one that cared about the constitution
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and cared about what could have happened with this guy in charge no and and i think that's why
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you're seeing so much uh fire aimed at uh his close set of advisors right now because they could
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have been more candid and um you know democrats in general i think were confused as to his cognitive
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abilities i think the reason he wanted to do this debate and his advisors wanted to do this debate
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earlier the one this disastrous one in june last year is because they wanted they knew that he was
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losing the polls obviously they wanted to change the trajectory of this race and they thought that
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that was a moment that could help him um instead it brought out you know it showed it on display
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everything uh for the american public so i honestly thought for the longest time that they did that
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knowing somebody was like no let's put him on the stage and let's do it now before you know things
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get completely out of hand and he's going to be running for uh re-election i i really thought they put
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him on stage that early because i'd never seen that happen before in american politics put him on
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stage that early so he would be exposed and everybody would be like okay we can't run him
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or no and what's fascinating glenn is that we take you inside i mean we open the book inside nancy
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pelosi's living room and she's watching the debate alone she had warned president biden at the time she
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said oh you don't want to debate trump and she you know mentioned it under the guise of oh why would
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you belittle yourself and appear on stage with him but she knows and jim cliburn who's also watching
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the debate alone in his living room and we take you inside there he's having a drink and watching it
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they're all alone they're not at some debate watch party together because they almost know what is
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about to happen they're watching the train wreck unfold bit by bit and alone so what do we do
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to ensure this let me ask you before i ask you that again try again who was running the country
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that's that's a very good question i think you know his obviously his close set of advisors had a
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great big role in that um you see ron clain these days sort of trying to distance himself he was the
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former chief of staff trying to distance himself from the optics of uh what was happening um but
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it's not but it's really not optics it is the truth somebody was making decisions because the
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president could you know i've i was always fascinated in history by woodrow wilson edith wilson ran the
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white house for a while but it was his own party that came in because it was the same thing people like
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rumors and they're like i don't think he's really there uh and he wasn't seen for a long time and
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so the leadership of the party came finally forced the first lady uh and said because she was saying
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he's going to run for a third term and they said no no or we'll expose all of this right now he's not
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running for another term um uh you know but it seems to be the same thing i'm wondering how many
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presidents have we had that you know nobody seems to really care that the elected official
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isn't actually doing what that official is supposed to do they're just some unelected people just making
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the decisions yeah and the fact of the matter is glenn i mean you see the president the former
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president has all but disappeared from public view since leaving office and i think that also speaks
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volumes um about his state of mind was was kamala uh that in the note which i mean if if god forbid
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something would have happened yeah who would have grabbed the football who would have been the one
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it would have been kamala harris and that's sort of why i mean you teased this earlier but her
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communications director would carry around this spreadsheet of republican judges um because he felt
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almost that like she had to be validated in that moment and only a republican judge could really
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swear her in and um and have that validation um from republicans he thought that there was no way that
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um such a divisive country um you know and people would support her and so we detail how he came into
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that role with the spreadsheet he traveled with it the dnc had plans in case um something happened to the
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president um and we exposed all of this for the first time in this book hey can you find any because
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i'm i'm a i'm a self-taught you know historian but i'm pretty good at it i've never seen anything like
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this in american history have you it's pretty remarkable it's really unprecedented and it was
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really interesting to report out you know i think people have questions about the media and how we went
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about reporting this and it's it's almost like the president needed to leave office for people to
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actually admit what was happening and and tell us stories that's what's interesting i think you know
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when you cover a president they're always worried that the white house is going to come down hard on
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them um and so they're they're less prone to want to tell you things and then when they leave office
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this this is when the floodgates open up um is anybody going to be held accountable for this
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i mean i think right now the party that's why you're seeing the democratic party scrambling i think
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first of all they need to come out and and admit what had happened here and almost look themselves in
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the mirror and talk about joe biden the other day jake tapper asked tim walls about it and tim walls kind
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of just around the question i think they need to be very frank about what was happening and what
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they were witnessing and they they don't they don't want to do that right now you know it's
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interesting to me i just told this story on the air because people are kicking around donald trump
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wants to run for a third term no no that's against the constitution and that that that was put there for
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a very uh clear reason and it wasn't put in there by the republicans it was put in by the democrats
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fdr's own party when they saw what had happened to the presidency it just gained far too much power
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and it's not good for anybody when that happens um and you know here you have as soon as fdr died
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that's when all the democrats were like okay okay we got to make sure that doesn't happen again
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but they were for him when he was alive right it seems to be kind of the same thing here that
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everybody was like okay it's cool uh but is anybody going to step up now and say this cannot
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happen ever again i think that's what has to happen glenn someone has to take responsibility for it
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and um no one is and i'm curious to see how the democrats reckon with this
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um uh amy thank you very much i'm glad somebody uh finally told the story and and got the story it's
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it is if we don't fix this it's just going to happen again and it'll happen with the other
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party i mean it just it will i mean you give people in in power an inch they are going to take
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a mile and uh this cannot happen this just cannot happen again amy thank you so much thank you glenn
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you bet amy parnes fight inside the wildest battle for the white house
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claudia was leaving for her pickleball tournament i've been visualizing my match all week she was so
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focused on visualizing that she didn't see the column behind her car on her backhand side
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good thing claudia's with intact the insurer with the largest network of auto service centers in the
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country everything was taken care of under one roof and she was on her way in a rental car in no time
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i made it to my tournament and lost in the first round but you got there on time intact insurance