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Glenn and Stu talk about Joe Biden, AOC's new accent, the Supreme Court, and why the media won't talk about socialism in the Venezuela story, and much, much more! Glenn on the border: 1:00:00 - Joe Biden: Handy-feeling? 2:30 - AOC: She's become Hillary Clinton? 3:20 - What are the people in the center of the country who vote Democrat?
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Hey, welcome to Monday's podcast. Really great one for you today as we get ready for a really
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good show on Thursday on television. We're going to expose Joe Biden and probably expose Joe Biden
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is probably the wrong thing to say about him. It actually has nothing to do with him being hands on
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or touchy feely. It has to do with things that other people have gone to jail for,
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including the things they were looking that they expected to find with Donald Trump. In fact,
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we tell you on today's show that the Ukraine is saying, why don't you want any of this
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information? We gave it to about the Republicans. Why don't you want it about the Democrats? Now
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that's a different approach than bidenbracket.com is taking, which is absolutely talking about how
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handsy he is and trying to find the creepiest photo of Joe Biden. You don't have to register
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anything. Just go there and vote bidenbracket.com. Help us choose the winner. Also, we talk a little
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bit about AOC because AOC became a different person this weekend and she became Hillary Clinton and it is
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so insulting. Also, Selena Zito on what is what is at the heart of the average Democrat, not the
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Democratic Party, not the ones who are in control and the leadership. But what are the people in the
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center of the country who vote Democrat? What are they attracted to? Also, we talk about the Supreme
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Court and the new bromance between Kavanaugh and our Supreme Court justice, John Roberts, which is not
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pretty, and Eric Stecklebeck on Israel and the election that happens tomorrow. All that and more.
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
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it. Home title lock dot com. AOC. I don't know if you saw AOC this weekend, but AOC all of a sudden
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had a new accent. Really? Oh, you didn't see it? Oh, this is exciting. Oh, this is good stuff,
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Stu. You're going to love this. She's become Hillary Clinton. So we have that coming up in
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just a second. Also, let's talk. Let's start here on the border. Things on the border are getting worse
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and worse and worse. And the media is in full fledged denial. Did you see the story today about
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how and we'll get to it later, how the New York Times, CNN, NPR, they are all refusing to say
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anything about socialism in any of their stories in regards to Venezuela? They won't use the word
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socialism, specifically the New York Times. I know the Washington Post did a really good story
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we highlighted here that was went in depth and talked about socialism. It's a it's it's pretty
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amazing what they will do to not talk about the real story. Now, how many of them are talking about
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the humanitarian crisis that is on the border? We said one was coming. The president said one was
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coming. It was easy to see. It's so easy to just take people at their word, see what's going on,
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see who's involved and be able to predict the future. When when people say they're going to
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disrupt you, when people say they're going to kill you, when people say they're you got my stuff,
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I'm coming for it. You should pay attention to that person, especially if they have the means or
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people are helping them with the means. They will do it. So now we have this humanitarian crisis and
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what's her name? Kirsten Nielsen was let go over the weekend by the president.
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It's kind of sad. I feel kind of bad for her. I mean, in some ways, she was going for a meeting
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and had no idea she was going to be let go. Yeah, she was going in to present a plan as to how to
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you know, to return to normalcy at least and read, you know, go back to the old numbers because
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these are all new numbers. I mean, looking back at the last few years, even you see that, you know,
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the typical average month for border apprehensions is, you know, 30 or 40,000. It is crept up above
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that a couple of times. For example, if you look at 2014, we talked a lot about this is when you went to
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the border, Glenn. Remember that big crisis, even the 60,000, I think even the media, uh, admitted
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that was a huge crisis and that was a 60,000 per month for a couple of months. Well, last month was
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70,000. And so that was a very high, you know, anything above anything we've seen for five or six
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years. Uh, this next month, which the official numbers get released this week is going to be over
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100,000. So we're talking about potentially double the worst months of the past decade and will be a
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record. And this is what we know of. This is what we just, yeah, this is just apprehensions. Yeah.
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This is what we know of. We're well into a million people a year, well into maybe we may be, uh, you
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know, a million and a half to 1.8 million people a year coming into our country. Yeah. They basically
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treat apprehensions as a proxy for how many people are actually crossing. So the more people they
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catch, they assume more people are getting in that aren't being caught. And that certainly makes
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logical sense. But as that number goes up, uh, you know, you're getting too huge, huge. I mean,
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cause you got to believe we all know that it's not exactly difficult to get across the border right
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now. That's the problem. So the fact that they're catching a hundred thousand people means you're
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right. Maybe it is, you know, two and 300,000 every month that are getting in, uh, without being
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caught. Not to mention the people who are coming here other ways, as far as overstaying visas and,
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and coming through different ports of entry. So it is a, I mean, it is a, if it's, this is not a
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crisis, these, these things don't exist. And the, the, the system itself is being completely overrun.
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Uh, the Republicans and Trump tried to put together a proposal to say, Hey, let's expand all this,
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give us more detention centers. So we don't have to stick people under bridges, give us more judges so we
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can actually process these things. And they, you know, the left rejected it. So now this crisis that
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could have at least had a plan to be solved has no, uh, no real solution in the future that anyone can
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see because the Democrats essentially shoot down every single idea to try to solve it.
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It is crazy what's going on. Now they're saying that, um, uh, Nielsen is going to be
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hounded at her next job that they're going to, that the left is, she was so bad for the border.
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Really? Really? She was that bad for the border. I mean, I think she was bad on the border because
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we have this situation, but I don't really blame anybody. I don't blame, I don't blame the president.
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I don't blame the administration on this. I blame Congress. I blame the Republicans and the
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Democrats on this. Yeah. I mean, Nielsen, it's, she's in a tough spot here because she was,
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very, very loyal to the president, tried to execute everything that he did, all, all reporting,
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all reporting points that direction. The issue, she's very, she's trying to do as much as she
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could via the rules and you know, the, the rules are restrictive. So, you know, Trump wants to get
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somebody who's more aggressive on that. Whether anyone could have stopped this, I don't know.
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I feel bad for her, but you know, here's, here's what we've, we've moved into a new age.
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She's now going to be threatened at her next job. The left is already targeting anybody who hires her
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is going to pay for it. How horrible is that? Here's somebody who goes and serves our country,
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plays by the rules, does everything right. And you want to destroy them. I mean, it is, we are turning
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into Nazi Germany. We are clearly turning into Nazi Germany. I mean, we, we are. Nazi Germany had other
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determining factors, as you know. I know, but it didn't, it wasn't Nazi Germany overnight. No,
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the little baby steps. It's little baby steps. And we keep taking these baby steps. We're devaluing
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life. We're saying infanticide. The Congress has changed, has turned down a bill to vote against
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infanticide 25 times, 25 times since they, since they took over Congress, 25 times they've turned it
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down. Just the 25 though. We're, you know, sometimes you're just not sure. Do we want to kill the
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babies? Do we not? You now have, you now have the government, uh, and mainly the Democrats going
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after Google and everyone else and saying, Hey, work with us, work with us. You now have, uh, uh, uh,
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what's his name? Zuckerberg saying, I want more government interference. I want more government
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regulation. You're starting to see that, that system of information merged now with the United
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States government. That's another step. You, you have, you have the targeting of innocent
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people. She, she didn't do anything wrong. What has she done wrong? If you go against it,
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they'll destroy you. That's another step. We just keep marching. I mean, soon we're going
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to be showing up in black uniforms with black boots and everybody's going to be like, Oh, those
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are really nice. Do you go boss? Make those. I mean, we are just marching toward it. And
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I, you could also make the point that, uh, socialism was a nice part of the, uh, no, no, no, no.
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Hitler wasn't a socialist. Oh, he wasn't. No. I know Vox said that last week, uh, which I
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was fascinated to understand because this is their, their thing is like, you know, and you
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point out, okay, well, uh, you know, that's the, you know, it's the national socialist party
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and indicates that potentially they had some thought. However, that is of course a much
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larger conversation. I mean, Hitler said a lot of things that he was not, and you could
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go into really investigate that. So he decided, you know, maybe it's time to actually put this
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down in one place that, you know, what is Hitler really a socialist? Well, uh, yes. It started
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out as a two page thing and I think it ended at like about 20. Yeah. It's on the blaze.com
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by the way. Uh, if you want to go check it out and we're going to, we're going to go through
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it, uh, today a bit. I can't take this argument. I can't, I just, how, how are you missing
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the national socialist? The only difference between the communists and the national socialists
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are the communists were international socialists and the Nazis were national socialists. Yeah.
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And if you know anything at all about history, you know, well, and most people don't, you know
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that, uh, Benito Mussolini is the guy who said, you know, I'm fighting in, and in World War
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One and nobody's fighting for the international workers. They were fighting for their friends.
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They were fighting for their country. They were fighting for the, the workers of their
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country. They weren't fighting for an international purpose. When it comes down to it, you're fighting
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for you and your nation and we should do socialism. We just shouldn't do it internationally.
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That's how fascism was born. Right. I mean, the, the, you know, Goebbels said the difference
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between communism and the Hitler faith was quote, very slight. I mean, they, they, they did
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this, they said, you know, uh, I mean, oh, the Nazi flag is surrounded. The Nazi symbol is
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surrounded by red because Hitler said, we want to show that the, the reds, the communists, that
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we have most things in common. They were friendly. They voted the same way for years and years
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and years before. I mean, it's, it's blatantly obvious that it's true. However, there's this
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sort of revisionist idea that to save socialism, they have to make a case that he's not. And
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there was infighting. I mean, this is very well documented that, you know, Goebbels was
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more of a socialist than Hitler was. And he prioritized socialism over, um, nationalism.
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I mean, and, and, you know, Hitler, I think it's fair to say, number one, a lot of his
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priorities went down the train because he's number one thing was killing lots of Jews.
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So he sacrificed a lot of the things that he believed in for that, including things like
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environmentalism. I mean, Hitler, the Nazi party was one of the biggest, really the first
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environmentalist parties. Um, now when they were environmental, big, I mean, big animal
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lovers, animal rights to this day, modern environmentalists look back at what they did
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in Germany and say, it said, it was actually eco, ecologically beneficial to Germany. Now,
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once they started getting in wars, they started rolling tanks over lots of trees and they let
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a lot of those environmentalist principles go. Some of that happened with socialism and they
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didn't follow the doctrine of the day all the way through the regime, but that was absolutely
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part of their plan. The biggest argument is that he just took over. He wasn't democratically elected.
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Right. Yeah. Yeah. Well, that's the way it always ends. Sure. That's the way it always ends. At
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some point, I mean, look at Chavez, Chavez laid the groundwork, socialism. Then the next guy was
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elected. Then it started, they started having trouble. And so they were like, we got to take
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over. And so they just either rig the elections or they suspend the elections. That's what happens
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every single time. This, this democratic bull crap is just that it's, it's enough to get the
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socialist elected. And then when there's trouble, they suspend them or, or fix them. Yeah. And eventually
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there becomes inter-party squabbles. And then that happened with the Nazis where some, the people
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who are super pro-socialist, well, it was, if it, it was someone else with a power base other than
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Hitler, he killed them all. Right. Like eventually you get to that point. That doesn't mean that Hitler
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didn't like socialism. The best of the Glenn Beck program.
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anybody who wants to understand politics and what's really going on in America today. And she wrote an
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article in the New York post, how, uh, Pete, is it booted, booted edge, booted edge, how do you say
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it? It's like saying it's twice. Okay. Booted edge, booted edge. I can't say it. He can't be president.
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Okay. So Pete, so mayor Pete, uh, he, um, uh, you wrote how he could hurt Trump in the rust belt.
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First of all, explain who this guy is for most people who, who may not know him.
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So mayor Pete, uh, has been the mayor of South Bend, Indiana since 2011. Youngest elected mayor
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at 29. Uh, he has, uh, served our country. Um, he, uh, is a Harvard grad. He, what else speaks eight
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languages. Oh my gosh. Uh, and yeah, I know you feel really dumb when you say, no, I can't,
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I can't even pronounce his last name. The guy speaks eight languages. He's, he's deeply faithful.
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He's what does that mean? Wait, wait, what does that mean? Deeply faithful?
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Yeah. He takes his faith incredibly seriously. He's a devout Episcopalian. Uh, it's a very much
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part of his life and, um, and, um, how, how his worldview is held. Now, now remember though,
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Episcopalians tend to be much, there's a portion of the Episcopalians that are incredibly liberal. So
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I also think that's an important component to understand about his faith.
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Yeah. That's a social justice religion, uh, many times.
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Yes, yes, yes, yes. Um, and, and so he's, he's, he's very accomplished and he made the decision that
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a lot of millennials make and they come back, not a lot, but a sizeable portion of millennials do
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come and they come back to their hometown and try to be part of, of fixing of the problem. Uh,
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and so is he liked, is he liked in town in town? He's definitely liked, but see, he's never had to
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run on any national issues. He runs as you should always run when you're running for local office,
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fixing the roads and the bridges and making sure that the garbage is picked up. And does he do a
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good job at that? Does he do a good job of that? Yeah, absolutely. Um, is, is there a good job of
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it? Has there been corruption, um, in his town and has he cleaned it up? He has been working on that
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within his own administration. Uh, no, uh, you know, so, um, yeah, he, uh, in terms of being a good
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city manager, he does a good job of that. And in my interview, when I interviewed him, I also
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interviewed the guy who's at the opposite end who has to work with him on things. And they don't
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always agree, uh, on, on issues. His name was Jeff Ray. He was a Republican mayor from a neighboring
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town who now runs the chamber. So they have to work together a lot. Uh, so, um, I thought that was an
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interesting component to put in there because you have to understand how he works with opposing
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views. Okay. So I saw, I read an article and I have to apologize, uh, for the last hour I've been,
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I've been misrepresenting his position because I just heard the actual audio and that's not what I,
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it's not what I read, um, uh, this morning. He is, is he a socialist or a capitalist?
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Um, well, um, I think he's, he, I think he tries to work, um, walk both lines. So if you,
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if in my interview with him, well, the thing, here's what he has going for him, Glenn. He doesn't
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talk down to people. He'll eat a Chick-fil-A and he doesn't have a problem with that. And he's able
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to talk about faith in an authentic way. Full stop. What he does not have going for him is he's
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pretty far left. In our interview, he says that, um, he supports a woman's right to have an abortion
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in the third trimester. He believes that we need to look at raising taxes. He's, um, before a lot of
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these sort of freebies in terms of, of, um, like healthcare and childhood preschool education. Uh,
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how about college energy? He's, he also likes to have it both ways on that. He's not very defined on
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that. And on, in all honesty, in my interview with him, we didn't get in there, but we, we did get in
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there. And I think this is a really important component, um, is that on energy, he's a solar
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and a, uh, a wind guy. And I, I, I said to him, I said, look, we had 30% capacity last year.
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We have all these shale jobs and we have the ability to nuclear capabilities. He was not having
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anything of, of that. He wants to go full solar and, and, and full wind and be able to develop a
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battery so that we are able to do that. You would have, you would have a, you would have a solar wind
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farm, the size of California. Where does he want to put that? I didn't say. Okay. Right in South
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Bend, I'm sure. Right. Right in South Bend. But here's, here's what's really important here in
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Western Pennsylvania, Eastern Ohio, um, and, and, and other parts of the Midwest and energy jobs are
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crushing it. I mean, not only are, are, I mean, if you look at my story today in the Washington
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Examiner, I interviewed the, um, the, the head of the labor council board in the, in the region.
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Um, and he's the guy who got Connor Lamb elected in my district. And he's the guy who got Pam Iovino
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elected in that special election last, last week. Why? Because he ran moderate Democrats who are fully
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supportive of these, um, of these energy jobs. We've got kids that walk out of certain high schools,
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um, who provide these technical, uh, classes, uh, that are able to walk out and start making $70,000
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a year in, in, in the Paris of Appalachia, where I live in Pittsburgh, that's a lot of money. And that
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also strengthens communities. And he, his name is Darren Kelly. And he tells me, look, is, is there,
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if they come here talking about the new green deal, my guys are not going to vote for him.
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End of story. End of story. And I think that that is the challenge that I wrote, we wrote about
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in the great revolt, um, in terms of a 2020 election. So Democrats go full left, they had a
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problem. So here's the thing that, um, that, uh, I see, uh, about him that, um, I think is appealing
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if America still is at all the America that I have always thought she was. Um, because I don't think
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that the democratic voters are haters. I don't think that Republican voters are haters and I think
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they're really sick and tired of being called names of being taught to hate. They just, they don't want
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anything to do with it. And when I see this guy, uh, who is gay, um, a, that's a, that's a huge,
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that's a huge plus. If he becomes the nominee, that would be, you know, the first gay president and,
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you know, it would be historic and blah, blah, blah. It would carry its own numbers with it.
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Um, at the same time, he he's gay, but he's not, he doesn't hate Chick-fil-A, which I, which I think
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is so refreshing. He's still talking about faith. It plays a role with him and it seems genuine. Um,
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and I think that's where Americans are. They may not, they may not agree with religion here and there,
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but they don't hate God and they don't hate church. Um, you know, he's, uh, he's a guy that
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doesn't seem to hate America, seems to like America. And he seems genuine where, where you've
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got Cory Booker and all the rest of them, even AOC is, you know, with her speech this weekend,
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I think she's becoming a phony. He seems genuine and he's not going to, he's not a puncher. And a
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lot of people would say that that's a bad thing going against Donald Trump, but I don't think you're
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going to punch Donald Trump out. You're going to have to, you have to go the opposite way. And I
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think so far, this is the only guy that I've seen that might be able to do that.
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Right. I mean, Americans love aspiration. They will love to be part of something bigger than
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themselves. And that's the thing that mayor Pete has going for him. He served his country in
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Afghanistan. He, so he doesn't, like you said, he doesn't hate his country. He, he respects people
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of faith. He doesn't, he's not condescending. He's like, you know, he lives in South Bend, Indiana,
00:24:49.400
the same exact town that Hillary Clinton has to go to for an event at Notre Dame university.
00:24:56.820
Because why? I don't need to win over white Catholics. I got this. And he, he doesn't take,
00:25:04.320
you know, these voters for granted. So he has all that in his favor. Conversely, what he doesn't have
00:25:11.520
in his favor are his policies. And we'll see how he navigates that through a primary. And,
00:25:18.980
and if he's able to strike a balance on a lot of these things going left, he could be a formidable
00:25:26.940
force against the president. But his challenge is going through the primaries.
00:25:32.100
I think Selene, it's going to be interesting to see because he's never faced any pushback. I mean,
00:25:35.980
he kind of has come out of nowhere the last couple of weeks and so far has not seen the wrath of 20
00:25:42.100
other Democratic candidates who also want to win this nomination. I mean, do they have places to go?
00:25:47.680
Because they can't beat him up on he's socialist. They are, they're all socialist too, or at least
00:25:51.920
believe in many of the same policies. What, where are they going to attack him?
00:25:55.740
Well, I think they might attack him on being white. It might actually come down to that. A white
00:26:03.940
male. That's a real sort of problem with the, with the woke crowd. If you saw the slate story about
00:26:13.360
the last week, you saw the first sort of nibbles at that. Um, and which, which they, which they said
00:26:20.780
gay, isn't, uh, intersectional enough. Just being gay doesn't make him a guy that understands the
00:26:29.180
plight. Right. Yeah. I don't know anybody that talks like that. Can I just say that? I don't know.
00:26:37.160
I don't know him either. I have interviewed, you know, hundreds of Democrats and just in the past
00:26:44.920
few weeks. And when I say the word intersectional, they're like, wait, what? Okay. So, so, you know,
00:26:50.960
so, so Selena, let me take a quick break. Come back in a minute. I want to ask you about that. I want to
00:26:55.480
ask you what do you think is really going on? What the heart of the democratic party is when it comes
00:27:05.640
to the people who are actually voting in the center of the country, what are they thinking? And what are
00:27:10.960
they feeling? We'll come to Selena Zito, uh, here in just a second. She, she's the one that got it
00:27:16.000
right on Donald Trump. And I mean, really right on Trump way early because she talks to people.
00:27:22.500
She's not one of these reporters that just flies in. She actually drives the country and talks to
00:27:26.840
people. Selena, as you're looking at, uh, the American people and you're looking at the Democrats,
00:27:35.280
they are going further and further left. They're talking about the, the end of the free market
00:27:41.000
system and end to capitalism. Uh, they are going for infanticide now, not just third term,
00:27:49.260
but also infanticide. It seems to me they are overplaying their hand every step of the way,
00:27:56.300
but I don't see the reaction from the Democrats who are in the country who, you know, for instance,
00:28:04.140
you look over to England and, and the people who have been members of the labor party for a long
00:28:09.560
time are like, look, we're becoming antisemitic and crazy. And I want nothing to do with any of this,
00:28:15.000
but I haven't seen people walk away from it yet. What's happening.
00:28:19.820
So it's really, it's really incredibly interesting dynamic, Glenn. So take a look at AOC's, um,
00:28:27.000
election in 2018. She won the primary vote, um, which is essentially where the election is held
00:28:35.340
because it's a democratic district. And she ran, she ran, she won that, um, election, but look who she
00:28:42.920
won. If you look at the exits, she won white intellectuals. She did not win minorities. She
00:28:50.220
did not win the working class. So if the democratic party has become, uh, the, the, the party of white
00:28:59.340
intellectuals that is carried by the press, many of whom live in those same zip codes or share those
00:29:08.740
values, but it's in great contrast with working class Democrats, um, and suburban Democrats, suburban
00:29:16.340
Democrats who, uh, um, who, or don't share those same values. What's important to them? Jobs, job
00:29:25.320
creation, their, the, the, the health and welfare of their community, which means infrastructure,
00:29:30.300
uh, and, um, and, and just sort of a sense of, um, peace and prosperity in the country. Those are the
00:29:40.180
important values among working class Democrats and suburban Democrats. When it doesn't, it's not
00:29:46.420
divided by color. You have to remember that a lot of working class blacks and suburban blacks,
00:29:53.800
uh, uh, in the Democrat within the democratic party are also incredibly pro-life. So you do not
00:30:01.860
see them being supportive of the third, uh, trimester abortion and you don't, and, and suburban
00:30:10.500
Democrats who do think they all want medic, which is essentially Medicaid for all, right? Let's be,
00:30:17.420
let's be really honest. It's not Medicare for all. It's Medicaid for all. You know, that impacts
00:30:22.340
their, um, their bottom line, you know, that impacts, they don't want to give their healthcare
00:30:27.620
up to, for everyone to have the same healthcare and for everyone to, and for them to, um, pay
00:30:34.140
for everybody to have the same healthcare. Is, is this just mass delusion on the, on the part
00:30:40.660
of the democratic leadership? They are appealing to what they perceive is the ascending, um,
00:30:50.640
uh, uh, electorate's, um, um, point of view. They believe that this is what women and young
00:30:58.740
people, this is, this is what, what, um, the Democrat is appealing to. No. Okay. I, I, I didn't
00:31:07.660
think so, but I mean, I just don't, I don't know any of, I don't know anybody that, that believes
00:31:14.680
in these things. Uh, and, and yet I don't see, I don't see Democrats standing up and saying,
00:31:23.460
what the hell is wrong with you people? Well, because look what happens when you stand up
00:31:29.380
and say that you get destroyed. You say that on social media, you say it in a story, you
00:31:35.820
know, I interview people and they'll be like, you know, if I say my name, I'm, this is my life's
00:31:41.080
going to become hell. You know, people are very, very reluctant to say this, but I think
00:31:48.180
when we look at the first results coming out of these primary contests, we're going to understand
00:31:55.620
much better how people feel. Remember this, and this was in our, in the book, the great
00:32:01.200
revolt, 34% of people who voted for Donald Trump didn't count anybody, not their wife,
00:32:06.880
not their kids, not their, their coworkers, anybody. And I think you find the same sort of
00:32:12.560
dynamic with Democrats, not that they're going to support Trump, but that they're, they're afraid
00:32:19.320
to come out and say, um, I'm not 16 year old voting. Uh, I'm not for destroying the electoral
00:32:26.040
college. Appreciate it, Selena. This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:32:36.880
Eric Stecklebeck is, uh, with us now. Eric is the director of Christians United for Israel,
00:32:52.160
the Watchman project and the host of the Watchman. Uh, Eric, welcome to the program. Good to talk
00:32:58.460
to you. Glenn, good to be with you. Uh, so, so I want to talk to you about the, uh, the Washington
00:33:04.940
summit that, uh, is coming up in, in July. And I'm such a big supporter of, uh, um, of, uh, all of
00:33:13.020
the work that, um, Christians United for Israel does, um, and you in particular. But first, let me
00:33:19.860
start with any thoughts on what the president just said about the Iranian Republic, Republican
00:33:27.140
Guard being a, an official terrorist organization. Yeah, Glenn, this is a major announcement. First
00:33:34.040
of all, second of all, it's long overdue. Look, I think the best parallel with the Iranian
00:33:39.080
Revolutionary Guards, IRGC for short, Glenn, I compare them to the Nazi SS. They answered just
00:33:45.880
like the SS to answer directly to Hitler. The Revolutionary Guards answered directly to Iran's
00:33:52.140
supreme leader, Ayatollah Khamenei. And just like the SS, the Revolutionary Guards have their own,
00:33:58.240
I guess you would say, economic or financial stakes all throughout Iran. They have, uh, made
00:34:03.900
themselves into a big business where they control shares in the Iranian economy, uh, Iran's oil
00:34:09.440
sector and the Iranian nuclear weapons program. All of this, Glenn, was spearheaded and controlled by
00:34:14.960
the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps. Not only that. Oh, go ahead, Glenn. No, go ahead. Go ahead. Not
00:34:19.340
only that. Yeah. In terms of the terrorism designation that we made today, that the State
00:34:24.060
Department made today, look, the main thing, the IRGC, the Revolutionary Guards, they are in control
00:34:30.440
of Iran's external operations throughout the world. That means, Glenn, they are in control,
00:34:36.080
complete control of Iran's terror apparatus, whether that's in Lebanon, Iraq, Syria, Yemen, or yes,
00:34:42.980
right here in the Western Hemisphere, where we've seen Iran and Hezbollah strike over the past few
00:34:48.040
decades. So the, the Iranian Revolutionary Guards Corps are the power brokers in that regime and the
00:34:55.060
terror masters in Iran. Why'd the president do this today?
00:34:59.720
You know, I think it's long overdue. Number one, if it was the right thing to do, just as a Jerusalem
00:35:04.320
embassy, the Golan declaration, the right thing to do. Look, a lot of people would say the elections
00:35:10.140
tomorrow, obviously, of the Israeli election, Benjamin Netanyahu, uh, looking for reelection.
00:35:14.820
He's probably, I'm sure, uh, in support of the IRGC being designated as a terrorist entity, but, uh,
00:35:21.940
no matter the timing, it's a good thing, Glenn, and it's long overdue because if we're serious about
00:35:26.360
confronting this Iranian regime and their, their terror tentacles throughout the world,
00:35:31.540
the Revolutionary Guards is the place to start. They are the head of the snake when it comes to
00:35:36.380
Iran's, uh, terror apparatus. And by the way, the State Department, Glenn, over the past few decades
00:35:41.080
has recognized Iran as the world's number one state sponsor of terror. That's both Democrat
00:35:45.980
and Republican administrations, but this is the first administration to actually act on it in this
00:35:50.800
way. We have such a turning of the tide, uh, with, uh, Israel internally. You have the president,
00:35:58.940
um, you know, moving the embassy, the Golan Heights, which is, if anybody's ever been there,
00:36:04.800
you stand at the Golan Heights and you're like, there's no way that Israel could ever let this go.
00:36:09.620
They're dead. If they let that go, it's strategic land. You have to have, it's literal high ground.
00:36:15.360
Um, then Benjamin Netanyahu said the quote occupied territories are not occupied territories. And he
00:36:22.380
said, he's going to give control of, uh, of those, uh, to the Jewish settlements. What does that mean?
00:36:29.660
Well, I think number one with the Golan Glenn, uh, you're absolutely right. Strategic, strategic,
00:36:35.800
strategic. Look, that is the high ground. Whoever controls that controls the high ground in past
00:36:41.280
days before 1967, when Israel seized control of the Golan in a defensive war, by the way,
00:36:47.260
against Syria and Egypt, Syria controlled the Golan. That meant Glenn, they could rain missiles down
00:36:52.440
on the Galilee below. It's a non-starter for Israel to give that up. Common sense. Number two,
00:36:57.560
I think with the territories, he's talking about Judea and Samaria, uh, the West Bank, Judea and
00:37:03.320
Samaria from an Israeli perspective, number one is absolutely essential from a security sense until
00:37:09.080
there's a Palestinian authority under Mahmoud Abbas that shows that it's serious about peace,
00:37:15.880
that's serious about recognizing Israel's right to exist. It seems like a, a no brainer for Israel to
00:37:21.800
hang on to that territory, just from a security perspective. In the past, when Israel disengaged
00:37:26.680
from Gaza, pulled out of Southern Lebanon, unfortunately, Glenn, they were greeted with rockets
00:37:31.240
and missiles. There's also the, the, the important factor. Look at Judea and Samaria is the biblical
00:37:36.840
heartland of Israel. The Jewish people were living there 3,500 years ago. So that's also a strong
00:37:42.440
factor in that decision by Prime Minister Netanyahu. So Eric, we have, uh, uh, we have the election
00:37:48.120
tomorrow. Is he going to win Netanyahu? It's tight. I'll tell you, Glenn, I was talking to some folks,
00:37:54.680
contacts on the ground in Israel, just, just over the weekend, and it's close for sure. I, I'm not,
00:38:01.000
I'm not a prognosticator with it. I would say that Prime Minister Netanyahu has the inside track,
00:38:05.800
uh, what does it mean if he loses? It's going to be very good. What does it mean if he loses?
00:38:11.560
Going to be interesting. I mean, he obviously has had a great relationship with President Trump,
00:38:15.480
number one. Uh, number two, he's been very friendly to evangelicals. From a security perspective,
00:38:20.600
it's unclear. Benny Gantz, who's the main competitor, Glenn, look, the blue and white party in Israel,
00:38:25.800
which is the main competitor going against Prime Minister Netanyahu, three of their top four men
00:38:30.520
are former generals. Benny Gantz, Moshe alone, and Gabi Ashkenazi, you would think they would have
00:38:36.920
a pretty strong stance on security. Uh, I've interviewed Benny Gantz. He's an impressive guy
00:38:42.280
when it comes to security issues. He was the chief of staff for the Israel Defense Forces,
00:38:47.000
just to give people a little bit more background on him. So he's got definitely security credentials.
00:38:51.880
Uh, so unclear how things change from a security perspective. Will he be less aggressive,
00:38:56.920
more aggressive, taking on Iran, for instance? What about Gaza? Gaza continues to flare up. It
00:39:02.680
seems like every few weeks, Glenn, with Hamas, that's a persistent problem. Then we have Southern
00:39:07.320
Lebanon, where Hezbollah, that Iranian proxy, has some 150,000 rockets and missiles aimed at every inch
00:39:14.760
of Israel. So whoever the next prime minister is, has a tall order for sure. But at the same time,
00:39:19.640
Israel's making great strides internationally, Glenn, and new relationships in India, in Africa,
00:39:25.400
in Latin America. So the security, the security challenges remain, but some exciting things
00:39:29.640
happening, positive things as well. The blue and white party, how are they, are they, are they more
00:39:35.400
socialists, less social? Are they friendly to the West as, as Benjamin Netanyahu and the Christians?
00:39:43.960
What, what do they stand for? Do you know? Yeah, I think middle of the road, Glenn, uh, truly,
00:39:49.320
I would say a moderate party, uh, from an Israeli perspective, definitely not on the socialist
00:39:53.880
left end of the spectrum. That would be the labor party in Israel, which is really
00:39:57.560
struggling right now. Uh, but I would say middle of the road, when it comes to more social, uh,
00:40:02.520
culturally, you would think they'd be more hawkish from a security perspective. Since again,
00:40:07.160
they do have three generals among their top, uh, three members there. Um, in terms of the West,
00:40:12.920
absolutely. They'll be friendly. I've interviewed, uh, Moshe alone and Benny Gantz, who are two,
00:40:18.120
Benny Gantz is obviously the top guy. Uh, Moshe alone's kind of second or third in that blue and white
00:40:22.920
party, both very friendly to America, to the West, uh, friendly to Christians in my experience,
00:40:29.080
for sure. Uh, Prime Minister Netanyahu has had a uniquely, uh, close relationship with the
00:40:34.120
evangelical community in the United States, but look, Gantz and Yalon in my experience have been
00:40:38.680
friendly as well. So, um, I, you know, I think Netanyahu has the inside track. I might be wrong,
00:40:44.840
but it seems like he's got the inside track right now, but at the end of the day, it is going to be
00:40:49.000
very, very close. This might be a Prime Minister Netanyahu. Look, he's been in power since February,
00:40:53.800
2009. This will probably be his closest election yet, I would say, because Gantz is a formidable
00:41:01.320
opponent with that, with that military background. Uh, we're talking to Eric Stackelbeck, um,
00:41:06.600
from ericstackelbeck.com. He is a good friend of the program. He is a, a guy who has been watching
00:41:13.480
this for, for decades now. Um, that's weird to say that, isn't it, Eric? Uh, and, uh, you go way
00:41:20.840
back. I know. And you're with Christians United for, uh, Israel's Watchmen project. You're the host
00:41:26.200
of the Watchmen, which is, uh, seen Friday nights at 10 30 Eastern on TBN. Um, uh, tell me about the,
00:41:32.600
uh, the, uh, CUFI, uh, summit that's happening in July. Yeah, Glenn, you've spoken at the summit
00:41:39.080
before. This is the big one for, for, uh, uh, and we loved having you, you know, it's, uh, it's the
00:41:44.280
big one from a pro-Israel perspective, uh, some 5,500, maybe 6,000, uh, pro-Israel Christians and
00:41:52.200
Jews will pack the Washington Convention Center in DC, in the heart of the nation's capital, uh, and
00:41:57.640
advocate for a strong U.S.-Israel relationship. Uh, we've had in the past two years, Vice President
00:42:05.160
Pence in 2017. Last year, Ambassador Nikki Haley were the keynotes. This year, Ambassador David
00:42:11.000
Friedman, who's our first ambassador at the U.S. Embassy in Jerusalem. Wow. He'll be speaking. Dennis
00:42:16.040
Prager will be there. Of course, CUFI's founder and chairman. The one and only Pastor John Hagee will
00:42:21.240
be speaking. And some, some very special guests for sure. Uh, Prime Minister Netanyahu, or whoever the
00:42:26.440
Prime Minister is, uh, will deliver a satellite address, uh, to the summit. We'll have some special
00:42:32.040
guests from the Trump administration as well. We can't announce them yet, but, uh, they're coming.
00:42:36.120
So it's going to be big. And I think the key thing, Glenn, is not only will we get together
00:42:39.800
and we'll voice our support for Israel and the strong U.S.-Israel relationship, but a key thing
00:42:45.560
about it is we lobby on Capitol Hill. You have thousands of pro-Israel Christians will fan out
00:42:52.840
on the Tuesday of the summit. By the way, the date's July 7th, 8th, and 9th, uh, coming up in just three
00:42:58.200
months. But look, we will go to every member, all, all 50 states, and we will lobby them, uh,
00:43:04.760
in support of a strong U.S.-Israel relationship and, and legislation, Glenn, that benefits U.S.,
00:43:10.360
the U.S. and Israel from a security perspective. Look, the tail, we've lobbied in the past on moving
00:43:15.400
the embassy to Jerusalem. Also, the Taylor Force Act, real quick, it passed into law last year.
00:43:21.080
Basically, that holds the Palestinian Authority accountable for support of terrorism. I don't know,
00:43:26.600
listeners might not know, they might know, that when someone is killed, when a Jew or an American,
00:43:32.040
Taylor Force was an American, when they're killed by a Palestinian terrorist, that terrorist and his
00:43:37.400
family receive a lifetime stipend from the Palestinian Authority. We call it pay to slay. And by the way,
00:43:45.400
in years past, U.S. taxpayer dollars were going to the Palestinian Authority and going into the
00:43:50.680
pockets of these folks. That's all finished now, but we lobbied for that. So a lot of exciting things
00:43:55.720
going on during the summit. Uh, we encourage everyone to come go to CUFI, that's CUFI.org,
00:44:17.560
I want to share with you one of the more disturbing stories I've read in USA Today in quite some time.
00:44:22.920
Conservatives' takeover of the Supreme Court stalled by John Roberts' Brett Kavanaugh bromance is the headline.
00:44:32.440
The conservative takeover of the Supreme Court that was anticipated following Donald Trump's two
00:44:37.800
selections has been stalled by a budding bromance between the senior and junior justices.
00:44:44.040
Chief Justice John Roberts and the court's newest member, Brett Kavanaugh, have voted in tandem on
00:44:52.200
nearly every case that's come before them since Kavanaugh's joined the court in October.
00:44:57.720
They've been more likely to side with the court's liberal justices than other conservatives.
00:45:03.640
The two justices, both alumni of the same District of Columbia-based federal appeals court,
00:45:08.920
have split publicly only once in 25 official decisions.
00:45:13.960
Their partnership has extended, though less reliably, to orders the courts have issued on
00:45:19.240
abortion funding, immigration, the death penalty, in the six months of Kavanaugh's bitter
00:45:25.080
Senate confirmation battle that ended in a 50-48 split.
00:45:29.160
Roberts and Kavanaugh have obvious reasons for their reluctance to join the court's three
00:45:37.720
The chief justice's voice concerned about the court being viewed as just another political
00:45:43.800
Oh, so the answer to that is to play politics and try to, you know, show some sort of future,
00:45:50.840
you know, history can look back at us and say, we did the right thing.
00:45:58.680
That sort of posturing, not at all part of the job description of a Supreme Court justice,
00:46:06.440
Kavanaugh, a former top White House official under George W. Bush, who was accused of a
00:46:11.160
sexual assault in 1980s during his confirmation, may be just laying low.
00:46:15.160
Justice Kavanaugh seems to share some of the chief justice's institutional concerns.
00:46:20.280
But I also think he cares about his own perception as an even-handed judge.
00:46:38.280
The initial list that Donald Trump put out had 21 Supreme Court justice possibilities
00:46:44.920
When he was elected, and a big portion of him getting elected was because of this list.
00:46:50.440
We heard people call in droves saying, this is the reason I'm voting for Donald Trump.
00:46:55.000
This was all approved by the Federalist Society.
00:46:59.160
He got elected, and they picked Neil Gorsuch, one of the best justices on the list, I thought.
00:47:06.180
And then, after that, with very little fanfare, they added five names to the list.
00:47:15.720
And I have no evidence to think that she would be bad, per se.
00:47:21.160
But another one of those was Amy Coney Barrett.
00:47:23.600
And the idea that we now have to pick off of this list, there's still 20 names on the
00:47:29.100
original list that are not Supreme Court justices.
00:47:31.400
Why we can't pick one of them when we have new Supreme Court justices, I don't know.
00:47:35.860
But that's another thing that makes me nervous about Barrett, despite she also doesn't have
00:47:44.360
I mean, we were not excited about Kavanaugh as a pick.
00:47:47.360
I was very defensive of him as being falsely accused or having his life run over by,
00:47:57.500
And the initial indications are not positive on Kavanaugh.
00:48:08.520
Despite their decade apart in age, Robert, 64, is an earnest and soft-spoken, but pointed
00:48:14.220
in his questions to both sides during oral arguments.
00:48:17.460
Kavanaugh, 54, is more demonstrative, but he tempers that with an inquisitive, open-minded
00:48:25.180
Whatever their reasons, the Chief Justice and the newest Justice together have provided
00:48:32.520
Following Kavanaugh's replacement of retired Justice Anthony Kennedy, Roberts has become
00:48:37.840
the court's swing vote, and Kavanaugh often appears to be his wingman.
00:48:42.180
Example include the court's action last October, giving those challenging citizenship question
00:48:49.320
in the 2020 census, additional information about the plan, its refusal in December to
00:48:54.200
consider Republican-led states' efforts to defund Planned Parenthood.
00:48:58.540
It's ruling in February that Texas cannot execute a prisoner who claims to have an intellectual
00:49:03.900
In all three of those actions, Associates Clarence Thomas and Neil Gorsuch dissented.
00:49:08.660
Associate Justice Samuel Alito made known his opposition in two of them.
00:49:14.300
Roberts and Kavanaugh appear to have voted with the court's liberals, though the breakdown
00:49:19.760
Their differences have been rare, but noteworthy.
00:49:23.020
In addition to one public vote to a criminal procedure case, Roberts sided with the liberals
00:49:27.940
intemporarily blocking a Louisiana abortion restriction, while Kavanaugh would have let them
00:49:35.360
And while they refused to hear New Jersey County's effort to include churches in a historic preservation
00:49:40.740
program in a Washington State high school coach's plea to conduct prayers on a football field,
00:49:46.360
Kavanaugh warned of the need to protect religious liberty.
00:49:49.720
Kavanaugh, perhaps is seeking a low profile, has voted with the majority in almost every case
00:49:55.760
so far, unless he is the author, which usually means just signing on to the opposition or the
00:50:01.220
opinion, but often writes separately to explain his vote, a habit he picked up at the U.S.
00:50:07.740
Kavanaugh has always had more of a moderate streak, even on the D.C.
00:50:11.620
circuit, says Josh Blackman, South Texas College Law Associate Professor who follows
00:50:18.260
He feels the need to explain himself, that he's not that right wing.
00:50:22.740
Oh, because this is, you know, as a Supreme Court justice, you'd hope that the unfair treatment
00:50:27.760
Kavanaugh received in his hearing would not change him at all.
00:50:33.620
But as a human being, we all know that going through an experience like that will probably
00:50:39.720
Number one, if you want to assign this to Clarence Thomas, the Clarence Thomas way, which
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is you get falsely accused of something, you get beat up in the press for a million years,
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You are never going, you are going to go and never, ever try to please the media, try to
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You are going to keep your, you're going to go with the Constitution 100% of the time,
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even if you're the only vote and it looks super mean.
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That's the Clarence Thomas way, if you want to summarize it that way.
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The other way is this sort of John Roberts way, where you are now to show that you swear
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you're not super mega right wing like he were portrayed, you start, you know, siding with
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the left a little bit more often, and you start going that way.
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Early indications, I will say they're somewhat mixed.
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As you pointed out, the case on abortion in Louisiana was a good ruling by Kavanaugh, but
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I wonder if what we wind up with here is someone who's constantly trying to please the future
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Good news, next term beginning in October may include major cases on abortion, immigration,
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Also, the third debate in the court over Obamacare.
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And for justices in their 50s and 60s with lifetime appointments, there will be many, many
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years, perhaps even decades, in which to evolve or stand firm.
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And this is another thing where you hear this from the media all the time.
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Remember the fear when Kavanaugh was going through?
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It had nothing to do with whether Kavanaugh was touching women in high school.
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It was about, hey, what is this guy going to do if it's a right wing court?
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They're going to overturn, you know, Roe versus Wade and all of these other things and
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make it seem as if it's going to be the most conservative Supreme Court ever.
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And we kept pointing out, have you watched John Roberts for 10 seconds?
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There is no chance that John Roberts, given the opportunity, would come down on the right
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So what you do if you get Kavanaugh to be on the right side of something like that is
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There is no way Roberts is going to take a stand against a big, you know, sort of cultural
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issue where he believes he will be on the wrong side of history on it later on.
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I mean, the chances of that happening are so minuscule and neither one of them have shown
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So the idea that this is really in doubt is such a far fetched sort of like fever dream
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It's like they're just like, well, this is the handmaid's tale.
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John Roberts is essentially one of you on controversial issues.
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He continues to try to please the media and historians.
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You know, the new book shows that he changed his vote on Obamacare because he knew how important
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The hell does that have to do with the Constitution?
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Your job is to get in there and rule on what is constitutional and what is not.
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To think things through, to noodle things through on what's best for society.
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Their only job is to find out if it is constitutional or not.
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It's like going into McDonald's and, you know, the guy won't give you the burger, but he will
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give you all kinds of advice on how to fix your car.
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Look, dude, I'm not going to serve you until you fix your car this way.
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That's what we need to start to say to the Supreme Court.
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We want to know, is this constitutional or not?
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Roberts wanted to side with the left wing, but didn't want to give up all this ground.
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So he actually got two liberal justices to come over and rule against the Medicaid part
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So that's why it was a seven to two ruling and why two liberals oddly voted for the conservative
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Roberts said, I won't overturn it if you come over to me with Medicaid.
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I mean, that is not the way this is supposed to work.
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And for some reason, we have lost and we have now just gained another legislative branch.
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And you know, the worst thing, and there's a lot of bad things that FDR did.
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This is how little the Supreme Court meant to the country for decades.
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When they built the Capitol, they realized, oh, crap, we didn't think about the Supreme
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Oh, well, you know that place down by the boiler?
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Just open that up a little bit and give them a room in the basement.
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It's like where Milton from office space was hid.
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And they gave them this big, huge building and made them so important.
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And when the guys who were used to being in the basement, when I'm not buying into this,
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I mean, we've lost touch of what the Supreme Court is supposed to be, and it is certainly