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Socialism is actually working and is working exactly as it is designed to make people equally miserable, we talk about that, the Harvey Weinstein case, and the coronavirus update you don t want to miss. The choice between the free market and socialism is the fastest to affect the entire world, the choice between freedom and socialism.
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hey welcome to the podcast it's tuesday got a great show for you today uh socialism it is
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actually working it is working exactly as it is designed to make people equally miserable we talk
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about that also this crazy court case with uh harvey weinstein and and i mean should he have
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gone to jail we all think he's guilty but thinking and being able to prove it is something different
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in this case the facts are really hard to understand how they came up with a guilty verdict
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on that why do you hate women uh sarah carter is on with sarah carter i think she's a woman
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and i love her she's on today uh and she'll be talking about uh phil haney the death of an
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american patriot who apparently drove out on the middle of a highway then stopped his car got out
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and took a shotgun pointed it to his own chest and killed himself which is the way it always
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happens right how many times if i had a nickel for every time i heard of that story well i'd have a
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nickel because i've only heard it once also bernie sanders the radical that he is and the coronavirus
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update you don't want to miss and don't forget to subscribe to stew does america on youtube and
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new people discover that's what it's for so you're saying it doesn't make you feel good inside
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don't make me feel good inside but that's exactly what i said case closed
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you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program
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15 years ago i was on this broadcast and i told you the time is going to come where you won't
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recognize your country where everything is upside down everything you counted on everything you thought
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was solid would be liquid and liquid would be solid well we're here 10 years ago i was called a racist
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for pointing out that many in our government and those especially in the democratic party
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were marxists and socialists claiming to be progressives and i said that there would come
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they would they would actually come out and this was in 2009 and people said this is crazy
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they would come out because they wanted to tell you capitalism doesn't work and they would say yes
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i'm socialist because the free market doesn't work i warned that conservative voices would be in peril
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as the old line media empires would begin to burn themselves down i warned you that the european
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totalitarian right would rise again and trouble was on the horizon for europe it would destabilize
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and eventually the left and right would join forces they would begin marching in the streets
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that russia would run a propaganda campaign to split us apart that we would begin to hear the same
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progressive socialist talk of death for undesirables and celebration for the death of babies
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the same kind of stuff the world endured and had to conquer in the 20s and 30s because they just
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wouldn't pay attention i told you 15 years ago that more and more conspiracy theories would
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circulate and believed by a majority of people more and more people would buy into them because all of
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five years ago deep fakes would be introduced and would finish the concept of truth i warned you
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about these things now we have to prove to the world that the insanity can stop so how do we do it
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well it's easy if we return to the self-evident truths if we just remember who we are where we came
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from remember and admit that life in america doesn't suck as much as everybody seems to think it does
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we have to decide we're not going to commit suicide as a society as a nation as culture
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and there are decisions that we have to make right now destroying life abortion creating life ai
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and the fastest to affect the entire world the choice between the free market and socialism
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we are there and a lot of people in the media are pretending to believe that democratic socialism is
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just a new coat of paint on the same old fdr democratic policies but it's not true as i will point out in our
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special on uh wednesday tomorrow at 9 p.m eastern time
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the wednesday night special is on bernie sanders and the radicals the revolutionaries
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the islamists the anti-semites the marxists the communists that surround him
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we've told you just yesterday what was in salon magazine about their plan their actual plan they're
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they're printing it now online and mainstream if you can call it that mainstream publications
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telling people yeah we're going to destroy capitalism that's what we have to do
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well the only way to beat this is with information knowledge is power
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knowledge is power nobody can fool you if you have knowledge
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a couple of things on socialism uh i have a new book that is coming out
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is it next month stew in april i think it's the first week of april
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and i want you to order it online right now at amazon.com
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order it is called arguing with socialists it's over 400 pages we made it into something that's
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really easy to read it's in the format of arguing with idiots it comes out april 7th you can order it
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right now it has about a hundred i'm sorry about 80 pages i think of footnotes so everything that we
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say in it is footnoted so you know if you're doing a paper if you're trying to convince somebody
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if you're trying to show don't show them my work oh that's glenn beck of course he says that show
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it from the new york times everything is footnoted because we have to dismiss a couple of things first
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that capitalism doesn't work and the second thing
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now let me be the first to say that socialism does work it works perfectly every single time
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it's it is designed to do one thing and that is make everybody equal
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and if you look at it as just equally miserable
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socialists saying capitalism doesn't work look at all the fat rich people look at all the inequality
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doesn't work look at all the poor starving people all those dead bodies in front of the hospitals in
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in america first of all there are no dead bodies people are not starving to death in america
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but capitalism is doing exactly what it's supposed to do and that is create inequality
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the equality of outcomes is what socialists want the goal of socialism is equality and the two systems
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achieve the opposite results the goal of capitalism is in a way inequality
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that is the natural result of the free market capitalism is inequality
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of outcomes it encourages it acknowledges that people are different people have different work
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habits there are some people that you can't stop me from working i work all the time it's what
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i do i'm driven by it i actually love my job there are other people who don't they love their
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they love their knitting they love their art they love their family and only want to be with them
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they want to work in the home that's great but the guy who's working at running a corporation
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because he is affecting millions of lives he's going to make more money than the person who is still
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doing the noble work of just working with the family at home
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they they they have an equal chance of success just not monetary success
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but we only seem to look at the outcome of money
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you can't have merit without inequality and if you want to get rid of inequality you must get rid
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of merit it's why they started giving trophies to everybody in school there is no merit we're all
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equal we're not all equal we are born equal we have equal rights
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but we don't have equal outcomes if you want to be a singer and you want to go on television
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and embarrass yourself and you suck hey you can do it you can do it but simon isn't going to tell you
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it's why we study in school it's why we work hard for an a
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because with that good grade while others may have failed it gave you the promise of
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many of us get up to strive to create or to invent not just to better our world
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but also better ourselves and our station and those two are connected
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but everyone and everything is equally miserable unless you're at the very very top
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capitalism has lifted entire continents out of equal misery and poverty
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capitalism has made the world more unequal but they've lifted billions of people out of poverty
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poverty yes there still remain shrinking pockets of misery but because of the free market the rate
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of children dying before the age of five has dropped by over half since 1990 look at the difference
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between the coronavirus here and what's coming here and how we're going to deal with it and how it was
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dealt with and what came to china yeah well they're a free market no they're not no they're not
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death before the age of five has dropped by over half since 1990 yet 70 percent of the people believe
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health care and poverty has gotten worse and bernie sanders is leading that charge
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it hasn't but cable news will obsess about oh here's the latest scandal with donald trump
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but just that one life-saving improvement is the equivalent of averting 27 major client plane
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crashes full of children every single day every single day look at the gun problems we have
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but the lives saved due to just a few of the improvements made in medicine just over the
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last few years because of the free market system is the equivalent of erasing every gun-related
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murder for 630 years and yet we don't hear about it all we hear about is the inequality that is
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caused by capitalism fewer people are suffering and dying than ever before and there's still a lot to save
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while socialism is making everyone except the elites equally starving and desperate in venezuela
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in cuba i posted something last night look on my instagram feed i posted a picture
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of a ob-gyn office the leading office in havana so this is the leading clinic for ob-gyn
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in havana that's as bad that's as good as you get
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i showed you the uh rooftop where they actually hang all of the rubber latex gloves out to dry
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because after inserting them into one patient they wash them and then they hang them on a clothesline
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to dry because they don't have the money or the system to be able to afford the latex gloves
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they'll look for the picture and spend and send it to your friends
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i'm tired of the casting of shame on capitalism and it is time that we start to understand
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what's being done to us and what our choice really is more in one minute
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look there is no one no one that is coming over our border in the middle of the night there is no
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one on the other side of the world that is dreaming of america that they can't wait to get here because
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they're trying to escape the rich they're trying to escape the system that keeps them down
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they're trying to escape possibly the rich who has taken over the government
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the drug cartels we have a failed mark narco state on our border now in the south
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they are here escaping not the rich but the system that dooms them and their children to poverty
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they're coming here because they recognize that inequality is a fact of nature but through
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merit and equal justice you can change your status and create a better future for your children
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we should seek equality because it's more fair and just no it's not
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socialism is about equality but it's not about fairness
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capitalism isn't about equality of outcomes but fairness and justice is its objective
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when it comes to economics equality and fairness are not synonyms
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the stated goal of socialism is to achieve equality for all the true goal of capitalism
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is to achieve liberty and justice for all and that's why the leftists hate all of this stuff
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liberty and justice for all it is the american way
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we're all unique we're endowed by our creator with our own set of superpowers skills and talents
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and yes problems we have our own weaknesses and challenges and thank god for that otherwise
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everything would be the same but we are blessed to be born here this is a great country
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we've lifted ourselves out of misery first and now we can voluntarily help the rest of the world
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we don't need a government to take a dollar from us and give 40 cents to the poor
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why not allow americans to take their own daughter a dollar and cut out the middleman cut out the
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waste give the whole dollar to poor we've done it before and in fact nobody has ever done it like we have
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i want you to hear carefully because maybe this is the first time you've heard it but there is
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nothing wrong with your desire to achieve to work hard to compete to win there's nothing wrong with
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your expectation to be rewarded for your work and enjoy those rewards the way you see fit which of
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course includes taking care of the less fortunate should you choose but you're the only one that can write
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your story your destiny is your own journey to make i have nothing to do with it and your failure i have
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nothing to do with either we all stand on our own two feet
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they're trying to work on democratic democratic changes well slavery by majority vote is still
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slavery you are the only one that can take away your right for poor choices but even then you have
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the right of redemption to begin again to pull yourself up out of the mud into the light
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capitalism has its flaws it's lost its mooring the free market and justice should always be blindfolded
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but they're not they're not being black white rich poor should never condemn you nor save you
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but the world will change in the next 12 months one way or the other
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will either all be equally enslaved equally poor and eventually equally dead or we'll humble ourselves
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and we'll stand up for the bill of rights which grants us liberty we will stand up for the people
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we despise the things that they say we'll stand shoulder to shoulder with them because they have a right
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to do it we'll stand for the poor but we'll also stand for the rich those who've always been here those
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who came on the mayflower and those who come here legally today because they're our hope they're our success
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and it it will come as we stand for blind and equal justice and stand for the glorious natural inequality of all mankind
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hey it's glenn and you're listening to the glenn beck program if you like what you're hearing on this show
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sarah carter i'm looking at her resume formerly a los angeles news group washington times washington
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examiner wrote numerous exclusives for usa today u.s news world report uh she is also a reporter now
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investigative reporter at fox news and fox news contributor she runs her own website sarah carter.com
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sarah i don't see on your bio that you were with us at the blaze for a long time i was with you at the
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blaze it should be right there in my bio it's it's not darn it i loved working at the blaze i know i
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will make sure that no no no i'm just giving you a hard time updated bio i'm giving i loved i loved
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being at the blaze and i gotta tell you we did such incredible work at the really did during that
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it was during that time that i actually uh met philip hayney uh got to know him quite well and
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what a wonderful human being he was and hearing about his death was so tragic um it it really shook
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me to the core because i had actually spoken to phil i think maybe three months ago he had called me we
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were talking and you know i was so happy to hear from him um you know he had gone through a pretty rough
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patch after losing his wife last year uh and but he was doing great and he was getting you know he was
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surrounded by family and friends and everybody who loved him so hearing about his death was really
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quite shocking to me now he um i understand was getting married next month he was also in the
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middle of writing a new book did you get any indication at all that i mean you and i he advised
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us and was a deep throat if you will on many stories uh and that guy put himself on the line
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every day especially during the obama administration that guy was an amazing whistleblower
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um and he was driven by a higher purpose did you get any indication at all he might have committed
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suicide or was thinking that way or was so depressed no actually no there was no indication i mean
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particularly when i remember thinking back to my conversation with him that there was any issue
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whatsoever um that he was despondent or depressed i had spoken to a very close friend of his somebody
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who had actually and i don't want to mention the name just in case it's private but just for the idea
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i can talk about it uh right after um uh the news had broke a very close friend of his uh called me
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and said look i had just spoken to phil on wednesday we were talking he was in such good spirit
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uh not only did we get on the phone we were chatting back and forth um in text messages he was
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very excited about the future um he was uh excited to be married um he was really looking forward to the
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marriage and to his wedding uh so he was very distressed um he did contact this friend of phil
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haney's did contact the police uh there in northern california who were investigating
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uh what had happened to him and and spoke with them and said look i've been on the phone with him
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on wednesday i don't know what could have happened um he was very happy uh he had no indication
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whatsoever that he was going through any kind of depression now that doesn't mean that he didn't do
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it right i mean we're the police are still investigating this um i know that information came out and uh they
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they've said that this appears to be a suicide uh you know a lot of people that i spoke to i mean
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it's very difficult to believe it was if it was a shotgun i don't know if we have all the details yet
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uh putting you know putting shooting yourself in the chest is a very unusual way on the side of the
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road pulling your car off on the side of the road that i mean right and usually it's not the chest i
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mean with a shotgun i'm guessing with a shotgun it's heavier if it was a shotgun um but it's a very
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uh a difficult situation let's just say it's not something that's commonly done i you know but i but
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we don't know we don't know all the details all we do know is that philip haimey was an incredible
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patriot and human being who really put everything on the line to get the truth out to the american public
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about what was happening in the obama administration um and his long and illustrious career uh you know
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uh from i mean this is a man who studied arabic who understood you know the culture who uh worked
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at the dhs and was highly recognized given all kinds of awards for his work helped found the department
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of homeland security um and then everything that happened to him during the obama administration
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that was so distressing um and uh the the issues that he dealt with when it came to and i think
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you'll go into that glenn with me in this call but as far as exposing what was happening where he was
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asked to erase databases loads of information in 2009 um and uh and all the information that uh that
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that he was asked to remove from the databases that would have helped the dhs connect the dots
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uh particularly when it came to islamic extremists in the united states and he blamed the obama
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administration for that he blamed them for for not uh for trying to change the narrative uh for not
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telling the american people the truth and he came out uh in full force i do want to get into some of the
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stuff that you can talk about you know um he was involved in whistleblowing uh with me on several
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different things but i um he never um uh we we never discussed it on the air so i don't want to
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discuss it uh just for the estate or whatever i just don't want to cause any problems um and uh so can
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you talk about any of the things that he he did do and the impact that he he made well one of the things
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that he did talk openly about um much later in 2016 um he did write an op-ed uh for the hill
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uh where he talked about his career and talked a little bit um about not into the detail that i'm
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sure he went into with both you and i and others that he spoke to on uh capitol hill those being
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senior congressional members but he did talk in that op-ed on the hill about what happened to him
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and he talked about uh you know the fact that uh they asked him to delete and modify several hundred
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records in what the dhs is known as the um treasury enforcement enforcement communication systems
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database it's called text and that's how everyone knows it the acronym text so you know he was asked to
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go in there he was asked to alter documents he was asked to delete documents and mainly it was
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he believed to change this narrative and to take away this stigma um when everybody was struggling
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with what is extremism what does islamist mean what what are these uh you know particularly
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back in 2008 2009 2010 and even after the september 11th attacks what what are these extremist groups
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about who are they why are they so devout and he really felt that the obama administration
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was like look we don't want and this appears to be anti-muslim uh we don't want any of this type of
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narrative and what had happened was um i don't know if everybody remembers but i'll to to remind
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everyone um before there was a christmas day attack there was the the remember with the bomber uh on the
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airline they called him the underwear bomber and uh it didn't go off basically uh the the bomb did not
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detonate the passengers on this plane were able to stop it uh obama became very upset in the
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administration and said well why weren't we able to connect these dots how come we weren't able to
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get this you know to see this in advance and phil haney was like well because you guys deleted
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everything in the database that would have allowed people to connect the dots this is not the fault of
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anybody at the dhs or the intelligence community you've literally disabled us from being able to
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do this and phil wasn't the only one i mean phil came out publicly but there were a lot of people
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even after you know september 11 2001 whistleblowers uh within united states citizenship and immigration
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services people within the department of homeland security who were up in arms and i i think that's why
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when phil died it was such a shock to everyone because the people that knew him well knew that he
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was up against a behemoth right of uh because he was a whistleblower of people that did not want him
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speaking uh people that did not want him pointing out the failures that happened within the american
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system within our government within these agencies that we entrust and this has been a problem over and
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over again we've seen it from phil you know what phil's exposed people that were whistleblowers within
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united states citizenship and immigration services who said look we're just letting people into the
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country we're not vetting them uh particularly after 2001 when we thought everything was going to get
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better it didn't it went downhill in some cases in some of these agencies and we see that these
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bureaucracies were badly managed or either forced to step aside and allow you know this type of i would
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i would call it malfeasance to exist within these agencies you know because basically if you're asking
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people who are the best of the best which phil was phil haney was no matter what anyone says phil
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haney was awarded some of the top awards by the united states government for his work inside the dhs
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for what he was able to do you know and and for what he was able to point out prior to them having
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him and others erase these databases um which is what he claimed uh so it is a shock to the system it's
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like what happens to whistleblowers lives you know and you think about so many people that have come
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forward real whistleblowers i'm not talking you know people that want to pretend they're whistleblowers
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but people with firsthand knowledge right firsthand knowledge they were asked to do something that
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they believed was wrong and then they step up and they speak out despite everything that could happen
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to them despite the backlash i will tell you that i i was with uh philip a few days before he came out
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and announced some of the stuff he did and he was truly terrified he was he had been under uh
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you know uh a microscope for so long and they had been looking for him to destroy him for so long
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and he had no protection whatsoever uh and he spent a lot of his time very worried looking over his
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shoulder sarah the last question i know that um the last time i spoke to him he was looking into
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keith ellison and ilan omar etc etc then i lost track of him here in the last 18 months
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do you know what he was working on by any chance yes he was he was continuing to work on keith
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ellison and ilan omar and he was going to become a very active part of traveling throughout the country
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and speaking to the american people about you know not only his work at dhs but really trying to
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uh expose and shed light on what's happening in the united states and particularly the shift in
00:31:48.540
politics what's happened with the democratic party you know it's moved towards the left
00:31:53.760
this inability to speak the truth i think that was really important for phil phil was somebody who
00:31:59.920
respected everyone whether you were muslim or whether you were christian or whether you he
00:32:04.040
respected everyone the one thing that he was adamant about was speaking out against extremism and he
00:32:10.620
said you know he always spoke out against extremists and that's what he was focused on and he didn't
00:32:17.620
want people neither ilhan omar neither keith ellison or others you know and what he saw in the obama
00:32:24.000
administration trying to cover that up you know either for political correctness or because they
00:32:31.140
didn't want to expose what was actually happening within the administration he wanted to ensure and i hope
00:32:37.480
we can keep that memory alive and what he wanted alive glenn because he wanted to ensure that the
00:32:43.880
american people knew the truth they weren't afraid to face the truth and that the government would react
00:32:50.800
to the truth appropriately so we could save lives and so that we wouldn't allow another september 11th to
00:32:57.200
happen in this country or anywhere else in the world sarah carter that i think i think phil um and i do as
00:33:04.080
well sarah thank you so much you can follow sarah she's got her own podcast the sarah carter show
00:33:09.100
you can follow her at sarah carter um dot com or sarah carter dc her twitter handle you know a few years
00:33:17.540
ago i couldn't say this but look at the people who are actually doing real investigative work now
00:33:23.760
there's sarah there's cheryl atkinson there's laura logan and john solomon and i would ask that you
00:33:29.900
would support these people uh that you would listen to these people uh and that you would pray for
00:33:35.500
these people uh because they are doing really difficult work and many times they're doing it
00:33:50.300
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00:34:21.400
thanks justin haskins uh is a good friend of the free market a good friend of the constitution and a
00:34:29.800
good friend of mine he is also a guy who has really helped out uh on my next book uh called arguing with
00:34:38.560
socialists uh he is a researcher extraordinaire and and pretty much a geek uh when it comes to
00:34:45.620
you know staying at home and reading old documents welcome to the to the program justin how are
00:34:51.000
you i'm doing great well what what an introduction yeah i'm a geek yeah well i appreciate it but it's
00:34:56.980
true you know that i mean geeks of the world unite um you are uh you're a guy who found an old
00:35:06.260
article that nobody has exposed yet we just put it up on glennbeck.com uh your article called
00:35:13.280
revealing bernie's dark side one 1980s quote at a time you found who even knew there was such a
00:35:19.580
publication called the what was it the uh the militant that's what it is the militant what an
00:35:27.120
article do you want to take us through yeah yeah absolutely so uh what i've been spending my saturday
00:35:33.900
nights doing is looking through old communist newspapers in particular this communist newspaper
00:35:40.420
called the militants which is a publication of the socialist workers party and throughout the 1980s
00:35:47.000
these these publications have tons of interviews with bernie sanders who at the time was known as the
00:35:53.600
america's socialist mayor he was uh mayor of burlington vermont and uh they loved him as the socialist
00:36:00.920
workers party because bernie sanders it turns out was a big communist not just a socialist a communist
00:36:07.420
he supported communist presidential candidates in 1980 and 1984 uh he actively campaigned for them
00:36:14.620
he agreed to be a presidential elector for the socialist workers party and so they have all these
00:36:20.180
interviews with bernie sanders they quote him a lot and one of the interviews that i found that was
00:36:24.400
particularly disturbing was this interview right after he became mayor of burlington and they talk
00:36:30.240
about all sorts of different topics but the thing that really struck me the thing that i really i
00:36:34.320
haven't heard anywhere else this this reported i think this has been lost for decades is he's talking
00:36:39.680
about police support and to fully understand this this quote you have to you have to grasp that within
00:36:45.800
the communist movement and the socialist movement both today and in the 1980s they really don't like
00:36:51.020
police they hate police they talk about it all the time and so one of the criticisms of bernie
00:36:56.320
sanders believe it or not was that he got police support local police support so they're asking him
00:37:01.340
about this and they're saying hey it's controversial to some socialists that you've got this police
00:37:05.860
support what do you have to say and he provides this answer about cops and how they've there's some
00:37:11.480
good cops here and let me let me let me let me read it uh verbatim uh sanders added that he knows that
00:37:20.660
some police forces are dominated by fascists and nazis but on the other hand we have a police force
00:37:28.560
and we may may have our own bad eggs too but i don't consider these guys who are making ten thousand
00:37:34.300
dollars a year as my enemies as much as many offend certain people in the left-wing movement
00:37:40.060
we've got good cops here they're good trade unionists all regular trade union issues people who have a
00:37:48.980
concern for young people probably the major crime problem we have in the city is with young people
00:37:55.460
these police see the futility of arresting poor kids all of the time they want to get involved in
00:38:01.520
some of the projects that we're beginning to do um uh to uh dent this surface on so he's saying here
00:38:09.780
yeah i know cops are bad we all know cops are bad but our cops are trade unionists and so because
00:38:16.680
they're good members of the union they're actually good most police forces i mean i love this he knows that
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okay he says some police forces are dominated by fascists and nazis i'd like to know which ones
00:38:33.280
so what i i imagine he thinks it's actually more than just a few police forces it's it's important
00:38:42.560
to note that actually the writer is the one who said some police forces the direct quote from bernie
00:38:48.280
begins with are dominated by fascists and nazis and then there's a dot dot dot meaning we don't
00:38:54.400
know what he said immediately after that right right left out of the story so who knows what sort
00:39:00.320
of a rant he went on to add things to this to this mix but it just goes to show you bernie sanders is
00:39:05.980
not just this you know i love sweden and norway and denmark and i just want the world to be like that
00:39:11.280
no he is a radical marxist i believe trotskyite socialist uh who who wants to radically transform
00:39:19.520
the united states so tomorrow justin i'm doing a special on the people surrounding him and the
00:39:29.760
people that are in his campaign are terrifying truly terrifying because they are revolutionaries
00:39:35.760
he is a revolutionary are you shocked at uh the willingness for of apparently the average democrat
00:39:47.440
to just get on board the sanders train and ride that right into the the communist hell station
00:39:55.220
i i i am not for this reason i don't think i think this is so radical but he is so radical
00:40:05.020
so extreme that when you bring these things up when you talk about his support for for fidel castro
00:40:11.460
and cuba and the sandinistas and nicaragua and the soviet union all these things it sounds so crazy i
00:40:18.840
think most people don't believe it that's that's really where i think this is that i don't think
00:40:23.060
people believe it because it sounds almost like it's a vast right-wing conspiracy right it doesn't
00:40:29.040
i mean can't real wait a minute could you imagine anyone left or right anyone getting on the stage
00:40:35.160
and going of course i condemn the holocaust of course i condemn the brown shirts of course we all know
00:40:43.420
about hitler and i condemn all of that but let's talk about the volkswagen let's talk about his health
00:40:50.360
care let's talk about his his youth program let's talk about the super highway the autobahn that he he
00:40:57.840
did a lot of good things of course we condemn the holocaust can you imagine anyone of any party
00:41:04.500
getting away with that how the hell is he getting away with this when it comes to stalin china cuba
00:41:12.880
venezuela well i mean the the answer is really obvious it's that the mainstream press lets him get
00:41:20.400
away with it because they are in in many cases at the very least sympathetic to his views and they and
00:41:27.520
they are secretly rooting for him to win i mean that's that's the only explanation because if they
00:41:33.360
had even an ounce of honesty in them they would point out just how incredibly radical this man truly is
00:41:42.240
they would point out that he is actively sympathizing and has been actively sympathizing
00:41:48.120
for decades with radical communist and socialist groups again communist groups marxist groups for
00:41:56.600
decades and some people might look at it say well this is 1980 that was 40 years ago people say really
00:42:02.240
horrible you know sometimes stupid foolish things when they're young except bernie wasn't young
00:42:07.480
he was in his 40s yeah this is a middle-aged man and and he's not changing you know it's one thing if
00:42:15.800
he would be like you know i said those things about communism but then the wall came down and i saw what it
00:42:21.560
really was no he's saying today the same things he said back then there's nothing changed that's that's
00:42:30.200
exactly right and he visited those places he went to the soviet union he went to nicaragua he actually
00:42:37.960
saw these things with his own eyes he met with with the president of nicaragua daniel ortega i mean he
00:42:43.720
knew these people he saw what was going on he is just as radical as it seems he is it's just so hard to
00:42:52.160
believe that someone that radical that marxist that crazy could get this far and yet that's exactly where
00:42:58.900
we're at this man could very likely be in fact i think he will be one of two people who will be
00:43:05.100
chosen in november to be president of the united states that is horrifying so justin let's not do
00:43:11.920
because i find myself listening to people saying the same thing about bernie sanders that everybody
00:43:17.780
said about donald trump oh he's not gonna win these this is a you know he's crazy he's radical
00:43:23.660
or how is it that these people they must be bad they the voters must be bad they must be communists
00:43:30.700
they must they know this why won't they do anything about him he's a danger well that wasn't true about
00:43:36.560
our side so why do we why do we accept that about the left or i shouldn't say the left the democrats
00:43:42.340
what is happening in the lives of the democrats the average neighbor democrat not the crazy ones
00:43:50.320
but the average democrat what is happening in their life that is allowing them to say oh no you
00:43:57.080
know what i'll vote for bernie sanders i don't really care i want i want i want donald trump out
00:44:03.000
so badly that i'll vote for this guy and shut all reason off right i think that there's a couple of
00:44:11.400
really key important things that have happened number one is all of the main institutions are taken over
00:44:17.300
by leftists who have who have basically taught a whole generation really two generations of people
00:44:24.120
that these ideas really aren't that bad they don't teach them the history of what's happened in many
00:44:28.100
of these countries that have tried these ideas so a lot of people are just frankly ignorant about this
00:44:32.620
stuff that's a big part of it the other thing is there's been this very deliberate campaign
00:44:38.280
attempt by bernie sanders and other people alexandria ocasio-cortez lots of other socialists
00:44:42.980
to paint scandinavia as what they're looking for when in reality that's not what they're looking for
00:44:49.020
and those countries aren't socialist countries but they've done a very good job of convincing regular
00:44:54.300
people who don't pay attention to the issues very closely that these are the socialist countries that
00:44:59.180
they're trying to be like and nobody would look at sweden and say well that's a socialist hellhole
00:45:04.920
nobody does that so it's allowed them to point to finally have something that they can hold up and say
00:45:10.640
here's an example of something that works that's socialism that works and this is what we want and
00:45:15.620
it makes people feel comfortable with calling themselves a socialist and supporting a socialist
00:45:20.820
because they think that's what they're shooting for well in reality it's not what they're shooting
00:45:26.620
it is it's a remarkable to me and you will find it in this article now at glennbeck.com revealing
00:45:32.660
bernie's dark side one 1980s quote at a time he that's not what he's shooting for he may say that but
00:45:38.800
that's not what he's shooting for uh and if you look at his policies it's not sweden it's not
00:45:45.800
anything like what is happening in the scandinavian countries at all uh or even at the height of when
00:45:53.560
they were socialist in the 60s and 70s it's not what he is proposing i want to ask you one theory um
00:46:01.440
or listen to listen to a theory of mine about the difference between barack obama and bernie sanders
00:46:07.100
uh in one minute i get the answer again from justin haskins uh and justin again wrote that
00:46:13.540
great article you find it now share it with some friends uh at glennbeck.com so justin haskins is
00:46:21.360
with us justin let me ask you this a theory of mine on the difference between barack obama
00:46:25.820
we saw when barack obama came in we saw barack obama for what he was and what some of the people
00:46:32.000
that he put around him were they were marxist radicals but the the key to the failure for
00:46:39.880
marxism on barack obama was he surrounded himself with all of the clinton people and the clinton people
00:46:47.280
may have been about corruption or they may about they may have even been just about good you know
00:46:52.260
very very progressive policies but they weren't going to end capitalism and so barack obama came in
00:47:00.300
and he's promoting this change and he's you know this good soldier of jeremiah rights
00:47:06.120
and the left gets excited about it but when he gets in the clinton people kind of stop him from
00:47:12.900
doing anything too radical and so he loses all of his support i mean he still wins the second term but
00:47:19.700
he's not drawing big crowds and he's not this icon bernie sanders is not the guy to surround himself
00:47:26.580
with people from the clinton campaign or from the dnc he despises them he'll go in and he will use
00:47:36.200
every lever he has to fundamentally change in a four-year period you agree with that oh without
00:47:44.740
without question without question um i think i agree i agree with your your theory about barack obama i would
00:47:51.660
add that really the biggest obstacle standing in his way was the tea party movement yeah of 2010 it
00:47:58.240
completely crushed any hope that he had of of accomplishing further reforms uh and so and i
00:48:05.500
think that that that stunted a lot of what he was trying to achieve but you're absolutely right he was
00:48:09.860
a barack obama was as socialist as you could get while being in within the sort of framework
00:48:17.480
establishment democratic framework right he's totally bernie sanders is out and bernie sanders
00:48:23.720
will use every lever i mean he will use i think i think the uh net neutrality and the uh fairness
00:48:33.320
doctrine for broadcast rules i think those are picnics compared to what will happen to shut people like us
00:48:40.440
down and keep us quiet absolutely he's going to use every tool at his disposal to enact what he
00:48:48.820
believes are essential reforms to the system he wants to completely get rid of our current system
00:48:54.300
i think that one of the best tools he's going to use is modern monetary theory this idea that we can
00:48:59.680
just print an infinite amount of money to pay for whatever we want to pay for and then to control
00:49:04.000
society by controlling spending i believe he's going to do that and he may actually get a lot of
00:49:09.140
republicans on board with that because they don't seem to care about the debt anymore either
00:49:13.180
you're you're you're right um the executive look donald trump has done a lot of really really good
00:49:19.300
things but there's a there's a fatal flaw in the trump administration's tenure and that fatal flaw is
00:49:26.020
that most of it's been done through executive action much like barack obama's second term and that
00:49:30.960
stuff can all be wiped out anytime the next president wants and republicans in congress failed to actually
00:49:37.180
get things codified into law and so now all of these positive reforms can be wiped away with a
00:49:42.800
single pen stroke and that's exactly what bernie sanders will do and then he'll replace it with
00:49:46.260
socialist policies instead justin thank you very much make sure you get uh his article at glenbeck.com
00:49:52.220
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