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00:00:00.220 Welcome to the podcast. Today, we talk a little about, we got a bunch of stuff going on today.

00:00:05.380 Is it the end of the Me Too movement? They may have reached the logical conclusion here. 0.98

00:00:10.320 We have a guy talking about UFOs and this report that has just come out from the government,

00:00:16.780 Tucker Carlson, who is talking about being spied on about the NSA, by the NSA, excuse me.

00:00:24.520 We're going to go into his story and talk to someone, Cheryl Atkinson,

00:00:28.700 who's also dealt with a similar type of thing.

00:00:31.740 And we talk about Glenn's new escapade.

00:00:35.480 He's got a vacation coming up and he's doing a car show.

00:00:38.160 We will tell you where it is and we will make fun of his car,

00:00:40.660 which is actually really cool, but I don't want to tell him that.

00:00:43.120 So here's the podcast.

00:00:50.480 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:00:58.700 Man, the FBI and their race team racing into action.

00:01:05.600 My gosh, they are just solving crimes and protecting the American people like nobody's business.

00:01:12.700 Yes, they have finally tracked down the notorious Louise Lynn McNichol, or is it just Lois?

00:01:24.700 I think it may be Lois, Lois McNichol.

00:01:28.200 Oh, man.

00:01:29.140 When you hear the name Lois, don't you think just young activist, right?

00:01:35.200 Well, apparently Lois, the 69-year-old grandmother from Los Angeles, was arrested yesterday

00:01:41.800 and charged in connection to the January 6th breach of the U.S. Capitol.

00:01:47.520 Now, Lois, 69 years old, Lois and her gang Adeline, Myrtle, and Clara are just radical insurrectionists.

00:02:00.820 And Beatrice, don't even get me started on Beatrice. 0.93

00:02:04.580 You know what I'm saying?

00:02:06.220 These people are out of control.

00:02:08.520 You know what they did, right?

00:02:09.620 But she... 1.00

00:02:10.420 You know what they did?

00:02:11.700 What?

00:02:12.580 They...

00:02:13.060 Myrtle and the Glenn? 0.95

00:02:14.020 Yeah, Myrtle and Lois both entered the Capitol. 1.00

00:02:21.880 Yeah, but they did it, and Olive had the intent to walk around. 1.00

00:02:27.580 And when you've got Myrtle, Lois, Olive, Esther, Mabel...

00:02:34.720 Yeah.

00:02:35.340 Gertrude?

00:02:36.180 You know, Vera.

00:02:37.220 Gertrude said, wait, wait, maybe we shouldn't walk around.

00:02:40.700 But Myrtle said, no, we're walking around.

00:02:44.580 Yeah.

00:02:44.800 And we're going to do it for 10 minutes.

00:02:48.300 10 minutes.

00:02:48.560 But Olive was like, my hip hurts.

00:02:51.980 And Myrtle was saying to Adeline, Adeline, I know you just have all those gastronal intestinal problems, 1.00

00:03:01.460 but we got to walk.

00:03:03.520 We got to keep you walking.

00:03:04.960 And that says nothing about what Agnes was doing this entire time, by the way.

00:03:09.320 Well, and Agnes... 1.00

00:03:10.880 Let's not forget, Agnes battles with irritable bowel syndrome. 1.00

00:03:15.980 Right.

00:03:16.440 So she was in the bathroom for the entire time, but inside the Capitol.

00:03:20.180 But in the Capitol building.

00:03:21.400 Yeah.

00:03:22.200 Yeah.

00:03:22.760 Yeah.

00:03:23.200 That's right.

00:03:23.600 Well, Hazel was helping Myrtle because Myrtle has a touch of dementia. 1.00

00:03:30.800 And so Hazel is right there to say, but this is a dangerous gang.

00:03:39.880 This is the second grandmother in this FBI roundup to stop these dangerous insurrectionists.

00:03:48.940 And when I think of all of the revolutions around the world that were started by unarmed

00:03:55.220 grandmothers, if I started down naming them, I wouldn't be finished until after July 4th.

00:04:02.680 Right?

00:04:03.340 24-7, I could just name Myrtle Ethel. 0.86

00:04:07.740 It was Adeline that started, of course, the revolution in France.

00:04:14.660 Why do you think they call it Myrtle Beach?

00:04:16.720 How do you think it was taken over?

00:04:17.740 A man, brother.

00:04:20.620 A man.

00:04:21.200 A man.

00:04:23.420 A man.

00:04:23.980 A bunch of murders.

00:04:25.460 A storm of the beaches.

00:04:26.720 That's how that town started.

00:04:29.180 Not a lot of people know that.

00:04:30.800 Not a lot of people know that.

00:04:32.000 I couldn't sleep until last night after they put her away.

00:04:35.100 After they put Lois away.

00:04:36.820 Then I finally got my first good night's sleep since January 6th.

00:04:41.200 No.

00:04:41.860 She's out on the streets.

00:04:43.340 She is out on the streets.

00:04:45.020 No.

00:04:45.600 Yeah.

00:04:46.140 She posted Bond?

00:04:47.120 Let me.

00:04:48.140 Oh, my.

00:04:48.620 Yeah.

00:04:48.860 Let me.

00:04:49.400 No.

00:04:50.080 Listen.

00:04:50.540 It's worse than that.

00:04:51.980 Oh, no.

00:04:52.440 49-year-old, unarmed grandmother of five was presiding in Indiana.

00:04:58.820 I don't know where she was presiding. 0.99

00:05:01.420 But anyway, she was nailed for the breach, the insurrection in the U.S. Capitol.

00:05:11.560 And she was the second now to be sentenced.

00:05:15.800 Uh, and she, she could have faced time in prison, but she said that she was really sorry about what she did.

00:05:25.500 That she said, I, I didn't, I didn't know I was breaking the law.

00:05:29.040 And, gosh, I wouldn't want to be involved in.

00:05:31.820 Now, this is, this is what people like Clara say all the time.

00:05:35.860 Well, gosh, I, I certainly wouldn't have been in the Capitol doing something that I didn't think I was supposed to do.

00:05:42.240 Oh, these people make me sick.

00:05:45.700 So, uh, she said, quote, I would have never been there.

00:05:49.880 I had a clue that it was going to turn out the way it did because it was never my intent of being part of anything that's so disgraceful to the American people.

00:06:01.400 Wow.

00:06:02.960 Well, you would be, you would rest well like Stu and Pat if you didn't know that she's back on the streets today.

00:06:10.120 Um, the attorney, no, the attorney had her read books like bury my heart at wounded knee.

00:06:17.960 She also had to watch Netflix mud bound and documentaries, uh, slavery by another name and Tulsa burning the 1921 race massacre. 0.74

00:06:29.200 And, uh, and that was part of the deal that she could go free.

00:06:33.660 Hmm.

00:06:34.680 What is I hadn't read that part of it.

00:06:38.240 Is that true?

00:06:40.120 They had her watch the Tulsa riot thing. 0.91

00:06:44.020 Bury my, bury my heart at wounded knee.

00:06:46.400 Okay.

00:06:47.120 Uh, Netflix mud bound documentary slavery by another name and Tulsa burning the 1921 race massacre. 0.82

00:06:52.960 What are you talking about?

00:06:53.940 Why do with anything?

00:06:55.160 What did that have to do with the January 6th incident?

00:06:58.060 Oh my gosh, Stu.

00:06:59.460 I'm not going to be able to sleep at night knowing that Pat is free.

00:07:02.900 He's free to, to gather now with Olive.

00:07:08.060 Yeah.

00:07:08.680 And Hermina.

00:07:09.940 Oh my gosh.

00:07:11.120 Well, we only brought him on the air today knowing that in behind him, the forces are

00:07:15.840 gathering to put him in prison.

00:07:17.880 Uh, he's, he's not facing the door so they can kind of walk in as a giant squad and arrest

00:07:23.300 Pat and haul him off so that we can get good night's sleep because of his obvious support

00:07:28.460 of the January 6th incident.

00:07:29.600 By the way, Pat, how many grandchildren do you have now?

00:07:33.220 How are they doing?

00:07:34.440 I have 10.

00:07:35.060 How are they doing?

00:07:35.780 I have 10.

00:07:36.480 You have 10 grand, which, uh, 10 grandchildren.

00:07:38.700 Yeah.

00:07:39.180 Mm-hmm.

00:07:39.760 Makes him a danger already.

00:07:42.380 You, the day he gets a walker, look out America, look out.

00:07:47.320 Yeah.

00:07:47.760 Now, uh, I want to, I want to just share with you, um, uh, yesterday the secret service had

00:07:54.140 to arrest dozens of, of youth.

00:07:57.720 Uh, and they were, there's no problem.

00:07:59.860 Uh, these guys, uh, 500 people blockaded, uh, blocked, uh, every entrance to the white house.

00:08:06.660 Uh, they demanded a fully funded civilian climate core, uh, be put back into the infrastructure

00:08:14.020 bill.

00:08:14.940 Um, they, um, they marched to the white house, block the entrances, send a message to Biden

00:08:22.180 that no climate, no deal.

00:08:25.280 Uh, they want, they want that human infrastructure in there, the free college, free universal childcare

00:08:31.300 and, um, AOC was there.

00:08:34.500 Uh, she was among the attendees telling the crowd that politicians can't break this promise

00:08:39.760 to us anymore.

00:08:40.780 They're setting up a world where they, they don't have to live in it.

00:08:44.780 Uh, that's why this matters.

00:08:46.360 That's why we fight.

00:08:47.320 And as a result of your hard work, we have folks in the Senate, we have folks in the house,

00:08:51.560 not just me, not just like they say a tiny group of the squad.

00:08:55.560 We have critical mass of people saying no climate, no deal.

00:09:01.120 So, uh, they were arrested.

00:09:02.900 Some of those were arrested.

00:09:03.800 Um, but they were, uh, they were just given a glass of warm milk and sent home.

00:09:08.300 Uh, their parents were called and they said, Hey, we appreciate the activism, uh, that these

00:09:14.160 kids are learning in school and we're, we're proud of them.

00:09:17.760 Uh, so they'll probably be back.

00:09:19.660 Uh, and you know, it's weird.

00:09:21.220 This is a Soros group.

00:09:23.060 This is, this is the sunrise movement.

00:09:26.680 Uh, and the sunrise movement is a radical environmentalist group funded by George Soros.

00:09:33.800 Now, what did Ethel and Lois and Myrtle and Olive do, Pat?

00:09:40.440 Well, I mean, really, what did they do?

00:09:41.820 What was the worst thing that you remember from?

00:09:45.340 Um, I mean, besides, you know, people being shot, you know, the, not, not the people that

00:09:50.840 were, were protesting, uh, the, well, they were the ones shot, but the ones doing the

00:09:54.920 shooting where the Capitol police, one of the worst images that I, I saw was they took

00:10:01.100 over Nancy Pelosi's office, their feet up on the desk, right?

00:10:05.000 Right.

00:10:05.260 Okay.

00:10:05.780 Really disgraceful.

00:10:07.280 Um, not an insurrection, but really disgraceful.

00:10:11.200 Yes.

00:10:11.520 Uh, you know, it's weird.

00:10:13.080 Uh, the sunrise movement, uh, November 30th, 2018, uh, 51 people, uh, took her office and,

00:10:25.700 uh, camped out in her office and 51 people were arrested from the sunrise movement doing

00:10:31.760 the same thing, uh, which is weird, uh, that we haven't really heard of that.

00:10:40.040 Yeah.

00:10:40.420 That didn't seem like a day that almost ended our democracy.

00:10:44.740 Did it?

00:10:45.520 No.

00:10:46.360 Nobody's saying that, uh, was it November, November of 2018?

00:10:51.140 Our democracy nearly came to an end and we don't even talk about it because the exact same

00:10:57.220 thing happened, uh, on that day in Nancy Pelosi's office.

00:11:02.040 Of course, I don't know that anybody carried her podium out of the house.

00:11:07.720 We're exaggerating a little bit here.

00:11:10.000 I don't think any of the Lois's did the really bad things that happened in the Capitol.

00:11:14.280 I mean, look, there's video of people assaulting police officers and that is never going to

00:11:18.600 be okay.

00:11:19.580 Uh, but there are, there are a lot of people who, I mean, look, but why aren't they leading

00:11:23.920 with this?

00:11:24.700 Why are they arresting and harassing the grandmothers? 1.00

00:11:27.540 Right. 0.98

00:11:27.880 It's ridiculous. 0.94

00:11:29.160 Yeah.

00:11:29.560 Look, if they, if this is all they have, right, if at the end of the day, they're not arresting

00:11:34.140 the people and there were some, it was a minority of the crowd though.

00:11:37.240 And this is, that always gets left out.

00:11:38.780 It's a small minority of the crowd who did the really bad things there.

00:11:41.580 There were people who just sort of wandered in, should have known better probably.

00:11:46.380 Uh, but generally they were not insurrectionist. 0.95

00:11:50.280 It's the dumbest thing in the world to, to refer to the overwhelming majority of the people

00:11:55.760 who were there as insurrectionists. 0.99

00:11:57.740 It's insanity.

00:11:58.980 I mean, we, I think I talked to you, Glenn, about this.

00:12:01.160 It may have been off the air, but I listened to an interview with a socialist who, a socialist

00:12:06.420 writer.

00:12:07.100 And they were like, you know, guys, we should probably not call this an insurrection because,

00:12:13.580 you know, the next time we do it, they're going to call it an insurrection.

00:12:18.620 Like this was just a riot, uh, is what he said.

00:12:22.180 And I think that's a fair description of, as to what you saw.

00:12:25.080 It was a damaging riot.

00:12:26.180 It was bad.

00:12:27.060 You know, there are a lot of people who do deserve to be punished because of it.

00:12:30.400 But you know, there's also a bunch of grandmothers who wandered in there for four minutes and 1.00

00:12:34.800 you can't, it does seem like they're leading with those arrests.

00:12:38.340 Maybe they're the easy ones.

00:12:39.420 Maybe those are the people who are confessing.

00:12:41.260 I don't know.

00:12:42.100 But it does seem to be going about it backwards as far as priority should go.

00:12:47.100 Well, the judge said he didn't want to send the signal that everybody was going to get

00:12:51.560 probation, uh, just that Lois and the other grandmother, they came in and said, well, I

00:12:57.700 would have never had anything to do with it.

00:12:59.900 It was like that.

00:13:00.740 And read those books and watched the documentary.

00:13:03.160 So, uh, not everybody's going to get that soft treatment.

00:13:08.580 I'll tell you that right now.

00:13:09.260 I hate to do this again because we've already done this on the air, but are you really telling

00:13:13.140 me they asked her to watch a Netflix documentary?

00:13:16.080 Yeah.

00:13:16.300 Like that's a real part of the story.

00:13:17.820 You're not, that's not part of the joke.

00:13:18.620 You guys really don't believe me.

00:13:19.660 No, it's incredible.

00:13:20.660 Hang on.

00:13:21.240 Let me get this story.

00:13:22.600 One more time.

00:13:23.340 Has to be a joke.

00:13:23.600 This has to be a joke.

00:13:26.080 Nope.

00:13:26.860 Here it is.

00:13:28.320 The unarmed grandmother, uh, blah, blah, blah.

00:13:31.260 Capital building.

00:13:32.080 She was there for 10 minutes.

00:13:33.200 According to the court documents, um, she made an agreement, um, that, uh, that said that

00:13:42.740 she was wrong.

00:13:44.280 Uh, she was ashamed of the savage display of violence that day.

00:13:48.300 I would have never been there.

00:13:49.600 Blah, blah, blah.

00:13:50.080 Uh, the attorney bizarrely had her client read books like burn my heart at wounded knee and

00:13:57.500 watch Netflix mud bound and other documentaries slavery by another name and Tulsa burning the

00:14:03.840 1921 race massacre.

00:14:06.760 So, and you said content was referenced.

00:14:09.140 It, the, the, the content was referenced in her mea culpa to the court, which apparently

00:14:15.300 was vital in the agreement for probation.

00:14:18.740 So the attorney did this.

00:14:20.980 Now it wasn't a punishment necessarily from the, as part of the, as part of the plea.

00:14:25.380 So she is really super sorry.

00:14:28.020 In fact, she's watching these things.

00:14:31.120 Oh my gosh.

00:14:32.380 Wow.

00:14:32.680 Unreal.

00:14:33.360 Wow.

00:14:34.180 Wow.

00:14:35.060 Welcome to America.

00:14:39.140 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:14:45.880 So chief Cahill was the chief law enforcement officer on board the USS Princeton in 2004 during

00:14:54.680 the Nimitz strike group, TICTAC UAP encounters.

00:14:59.680 A UAP is something that, uh, means UFO.

00:15:03.820 Well, it's just the government's, um, uh, acronym for what we know to be UFOs.

00:15:09.980 There was a report that came out last week.

00:15:13.760 It was nine full pages.

00:15:16.580 My gosh, how long did it take them to put nine pages together?

00:15:22.880 Um, but they, they say things that I find very, very, um, puzzling.

00:15:28.560 If you read the report, don't worry, nine pages who would read it.

00:15:34.140 Um, it talks about if, if this is true, if these things, when we come down to it, they're

00:15:40.140 going to fall into, well, I think they said one of five categories, you know, it's going

00:15:45.160 to be weather balloons.

00:15:46.140 It's going to be some sort of natural occurrence.

00:15:49.220 Uh, it might be, you know, one of our planes or objects.

00:15:54.100 It might be a foreign military's objects, or it'll go into a other bucket.

00:16:00.460 Well, it's kind of the other bucket that I'm kind of interested in.

00:16:04.640 And, uh, maybe Sean can give us some, uh, insight on this nine page UAP, uh, report.

00:16:13.060 Welcome, welcome, uh, Chief Cahill.

00:16:16.180 How are you?

00:16:17.300 Good morning, Glenn.

00:16:18.160 It's good to be here.

00:16:20.660 Oh, you sound so serious.

00:16:22.640 Uh, gosh, uh, uh, I, uh, uh, we're going to, we're going to, uh, kind of go a little

00:16:30.640 bit.

00:16:30.900 We're, we're interested in UFOs and I like to talk to people who are not interested in UFOs.

00:16:38.560 And so you might be the perfect guy, um, because you talk to people who are UFO lovers, they

00:16:44.900 want it to be true.

00:16:46.420 I just want the truth.

00:16:48.440 So can you help us find that?

00:16:51.840 Well, I can say that for the people who are disappointed in the nine page UAPTF report,

00:16:57.080 I would ask them to change their perception a little bit.

00:17:00.220 The, the first aspect of that report was that it was to go to Congress.

00:17:03.820 So the nine pages, while I don't want to make it sound like a gift from Congress, I was quite

00:17:08.000 happy that they immediately turned around and gave us the unclassified portion of it.

00:17:12.640 Now I'm like a lot of people I'm most interested in what's in the classified annex.

00:17:17.200 And there have been a lot of rumors that are circulating, circulating around about it, but

00:17:21.780 there's a lot in that nine page report that we can immediately dig into.

00:17:25.380 And it harkens back to 2004 when I was on board Princeton and it speaks a great deal.

00:17:31.420 If we focused just on that tic-tac case where I was present today, we would show a perfect 0.93

00:17:36.660 example of why the UAPTF was formed and the kind of data that we're looking to deliver to

00:17:42.260 not only our, our leaders, but to the American people is the real.

00:17:46.600 So can you give us, can you take us back to when you were on the Princeton and, and tell

00:17:54.020 us what happened that, that whole experience?

00:17:59.420 Yes.

00:17:59.860 In 2004, when I was stationed on board Princeton as the chief law enforcement officer, what

00:18:03.380 we call the chief master at arms in the Navy, I helped coordinate ships movements over a

00:18:07.820 period of days with senior chief Kevin Day down in the combat information center.

00:18:11.800 He had been picking up anomalous contacts on the Aegis radar system that were coming in

00:18:16.380 at suborbital altitudes, then going down to 80,000 feet.

00:18:21.540 And then what was spectacular was they were immediately translating down to the sea level.

00:18:26.200 And then there were groups of them proceeding in a southerly, southerly direction against the

00:18:31.000 wind.

00:18:31.980 This was so strange and worrisome to Kevin that he began a series of diagnostics.

00:18:37.580 He and a radar tech named Kevin Voorhees both rebooted the system numerous times.

00:18:42.920 They, they double checked everything, triple checked.

00:18:46.400 And finally, Kevin went to our captain and said, sir, I'm pretty sure that we have real

00:18:50.540 contacts, that these are not ghosts in the system based on the upgrade.

00:18:53.940 And because we were the, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, let me

00:18:58.480 just make sure that I have this right.

00:19:00.560 So these objects were up almost to outer space, but in our atmosphere, they came down to 80,000

00:19:09.400 feet.

00:19:10.600 I guess that's unusual because I mean, how many things are up suborbital?

00:19:16.260 And then it went down to sea level.

00:19:19.000 This is highly unusual.

00:19:20.940 Well, it's highly unusual and it's frankly impossible for most of our vehicles that aren't

00:19:27.060 ballistic weapon systems because to deorbit a craft requires a certain specific set of

00:19:34.140 maneuvers to, to enter, reenter the atmosphere.

00:19:37.160 So not only were these appearing beyond where the Aegis radar system could pick them up, they

00:19:42.200 were in space.

00:19:43.240 They were then translating down to an altitude that even our best aircraft don't operate

00:19:48.840 very well at.

00:19:49.560 Okay.

00:19:51.240 So wait, wait, wait.

00:19:51.900 So when we enter, we have to, we have that blackout period where, you know, we're, we're,

00:19:58.740 we're really kind of on fire when we're coming back down in.

00:20:03.240 So they didn't enter the same way.

00:20:05.540 They didn't experience those things.

00:20:08.220 Well, at the time we didn't, we hadn't yet heard of what were called the five observables

00:20:13.200 that came out of a program called a tip that Luis Aligondo ran.

00:20:16.620 But what we did witness was what was called hypersonic velocity and instantaneous acceleration.

00:20:22.840 Those are two of the five observables.

00:20:24.980 And they're two means of, of action that we have, we have zero craft in our arsenal that

00:20:30.520 can do that.

00:20:31.140 So there was nothing about this that matched anything that we understood.

00:20:36.400 And then to have them immediately go to sea level and then kind of make a lazy flight

00:20:42.600 southward, um, almost as if they were a flock of balloons.

00:20:46.360 This is one of the things that gets the debunkers into it because they like to cherry pick and

00:20:50.100 say that there were 20 or 30 different things happening at once that conflated to confuse

00:20:54.720 the military, that there were UFOs, but that's not the case.

00:21:00.420 Kevin sent a sortie of F-18s out to the area where the radar was picking them up.

00:21:06.080 Uh, we were the air defense commander.

00:21:08.520 So our captain had that authority to order that and commander David Fravor and his wingman

00:21:12.700 pilot, Lieutenant commander Alex Dietrich made their way out to this area.

00:21:17.340 And they observed a area of water that was, they said it was roiling and it was approximately

00:21:23.520 the size of a 737 aircraft.

00:21:25.280 And around it were these tic-tac shaped objects that were matte white in color, approximately 30

00:21:31.140 feet long with no control surfaces, no means of propulsion, no markings whatsoever.

00:21:36.220 And they were darting around instantaneously like ping pong balls.

00:21:43.020 So wait, let me see if I understand this.

00:21:45.440 So there's some big object, the size of a 737 and these ping pong balls, these tic-tacs are

00:21:53.180 circling it.

00:21:54.680 And so are they, speculation here, part of propulsion or something, or are they separate

00:22:01.400 aircraft or whatever it is?

00:22:04.020 I had to say to speculate, but if I were to speculate immediately, I think one of the

00:22:08.100 feelings was that they were either observing this area of water or they were tending to

00:22:13.680 something that was in the water.

00:22:15.540 Um, I can say that I've, I've participated in follow on investigations with Lou Elizondo down

00:22:21.380 in Mexico and Ensenada and off the, off of Guadalupe Island, where the tic-tacs were witnessed

00:22:26.580 going into the water.

00:22:28.740 Um, and the, the folks we spoke to down there, see these all the time.

00:22:35.960 Um, it's a very interesting situation down there, but what we encountered that week was

00:22:41.580 unlike anything we had ever seen before.

00:22:44.160 Um, towards the end of the exercise, after the night that the pilots returned with the gun

00:22:48.820 camera footage before we had seen it on board Princeton, I was out on the port side bridge

00:22:53.340 wing with the, the port watch, or excuse me, you have a port watch, um, at approximately

00:22:59.040 45 degrees up in the sky at 2000 feet, 2000 feet off the port bow.

00:23:03.800 I saw five to seven lights in a completely clearing cloudless sky.

00:23:07.560 It was about 10 o'clock at night.

00:23:09.420 And these five to seven lights all moved towards the center of the circle of the center of their

00:23:14.940 formation that they were in and each instantaneously disappeared.

00:23:18.200 I say that they blinked out, but they didn't show any kind of movement or propulsion.

00:23:23.360 This action completely matched what we were seeing on radar and completely matched what

00:23:28.000 the pilots returned with, um, on the gun camera footage.

00:23:31.240 The next morning, when myself and the other chief petty officers and the chiefs and us witnessed

00:23:35.340 that, that video, we were astonished.

00:23:37.860 We knew that immediately what we were looking at, we had the chain of emails that came with

00:23:43.380 it where the operations officers on the ships were, were immediately debunking everything.

00:23:48.640 We know what birds look like at sea.

00:23:50.160 We know what, um, balloons look like.

00:23:52.840 We know what other aircraft look like.

00:23:54.420 We know what the lighting configurations are.

00:23:56.540 These things did, did stuff that we just can't do.

00:23:59.880 And we had the electrical optical data, the eyewitness testimony and the infrared data to, to tell

00:24:07.280 us about it, not to mention the radar.

00:24:10.340 The best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:24:18.040 So on Monday night, here's what Tucker Carlson said on his program.

00:24:22.300 But it's not just political protesters the government is spying on.

00:24:27.020 Yesterday, we heard from a whistleblower within the U.S. government who reached out to warn us

00:24:31.320 that the NSA, the National Security Agency, is monitoring our electronic communications

00:24:36.500 and is planning to leak them in an attempt to take this show off the air.

00:24:40.940 Now, that's a shocking claim, and ordinarily we'd be skeptical of it.

00:24:43.560 It's illegal for the NSA to spy on American citizens.

00:24:46.120 It's a crime.

00:24:47.060 It's not a third world country.

00:24:48.900 Things like that should not happen in America.

00:24:50.660 But unfortunately, they do happen.

00:24:52.920 And in this case, they did happen.

00:24:55.180 The whistleblower, who is in a position to know, repeated back to us information about

00:25:00.440 a story that we are working on that could have only come directly from my texts and emails.

00:25:07.000 There's no other possible source for that information, period.

00:25:11.300 The NSA captured that information without our knowledge and did it for political reasons.

00:25:16.120 The Biden administration is spying on us.

00:25:18.760 We have confirmed that.

00:25:21.400 This morning, we filed a FOIA request, a Freedom of Information Act request,

00:25:25.120 asking for all information that the NSA and other agencies have gathered about this show.

00:25:29.700 We did it mostly as a formality.

00:25:32.060 We've also contacted the press office at both NSA and the FBI.

00:25:35.660 We don't expect to hear much back.

00:25:37.720 That's the way that usually goes.

00:25:39.580 Only Congress can force transparency on the intelligence agencies, and they should do that immediately.

00:25:45.820 Spying on opposition journalists is incompatible with democracy.

00:25:51.040 If they are doing it to us, and again, they are definitely doing it to us, they are almost certainly doing it to others.

00:25:58.960 This is scary, and we need to stop it right away.

00:26:02.660 Now, the NSA has responded on June 28, 2021.

00:26:08.400 Tucker Carlson alleged the National Security Agency has been monitoring our electronic communication and is planning to leak them in an attempt to take this show off the air.

00:26:18.000 This allegation is untrue.

00:26:20.180 Now, listen to this.

00:26:20.860 Tucker Carlson has never been an intelligence target of the agency, and the NSA has never had any plans to try to take his program off the air.

00:26:32.040 NSA has a foreign intelligence mission.

00:26:34.660 We target foreign powers to generate insights on foreign activities that could harm the United States, with limited exceptions, e.g., an emergency.

00:26:45.180 NSA may not target a U.S. citizen without a court order that explicitly authorizes targeting.

00:26:53.020 Somebody who knows an awful lot about this is Cheryl Atkinson, who has been spied on herself by the United States government, investigative reporter, and host of Full Measure with Cheryl Atkinson, and also the author of Slanted.

00:27:09.480 Hi, Cheryl.

00:27:09.980 How are you?

00:27:11.360 Hey, Glenn.

00:27:11.860 How are you?

00:27:13.960 I'm good.

00:27:14.680 I'm good.

00:27:16.020 I don't know how people come to this leaning toward the NSA.

00:27:23.700 I mean, everything that has happened recently, and quite honestly, if you want to be a free people, you shouldn't give the benefit of the doubt right away to the government on something like this.

00:27:35.940 What do you think is happening?

00:27:37.800 Yeah, I've tracked the proven instances.

00:27:40.940 These are just the ones that have been reported publicly through documentation, you know, pre, actually for decades, but starting in the 2009 time period.

00:27:50.700 We know the government was proven to have spied on members of Congress, their staff, journalists.

00:27:57.320 We know that intelligence officials gave false information on these questions when they testified to Congress.

00:28:02.700 So again, like you say, the default position should be, we know this is being done and has been done.

00:28:08.040 And if they can prove otherwise or are upfront and forthright with their information, perhaps we could listen to that, but they never are.

00:28:15.460 We know that they have the ability to capture all communications in the United States.

00:28:27.940 We know that they do capture all communications, but they say it's just on the meta level.

00:28:35.220 However, if you're wanting to target somebody, it's not that hard to do it.

00:28:40.840 And the NSA says, unless it's an emergency.

00:28:43.800 Well, if the United States government is convinced that the largest insurrection ever to happen since the Civil War was January 6th, and that came from Trump supporters and Trump supporters watch and listen to me, Tucker Carlson, you.

00:29:00.240 Well, then doesn't that doesn't that qualify in some twisted way to a dirty government that, yeah, they have the right to spy or to read e-mails and texts?

00:29:15.060 Of course.

00:29:16.000 Excuse me, I'm sneezing.

00:29:17.300 Of course they do.

00:29:18.520 You know, they will find a way to justify whether they believe it or don't believe it.

00:29:22.600 They can find a way to put down on paper the necessity, at least make the argument that this is something that they must do.

00:29:29.640 And they're authorized to do for national security.

00:29:32.380 But because it's done in secret and through the FISA court, where we usually never know what the justification is that's presented and we're never meant to know, we can't say whether they did it properly.

00:29:45.500 We can't tell whether they manufactured information like they did against Carter Page, the Trump associate, to spy on him.

00:29:53.960 But I would say, Glenn, you know, I've been talking about this for years since I got the forensic proof that it happened to me without them ever being stopped and nobody being held accountable.

00:30:05.040 Of course, we can expect more of the same.

00:30:07.160 There's been no change, no deviation from the path of illegally and improperly spying on people.

00:30:12.660 And in my case, you know, I learned through courts, I still have a case pending, but through a lot of court action over the years, I learned that government officials enjoy a great deal of immunity from their crimes or acts that they commit or oversee while in office.

00:30:28.680 Congress would have to change the law to actually hold them accountable for some of these surveillance abuses.

00:30:33.060 And none of that's been done.

00:30:35.840 It is truly terrifying when you when you when you think and read, excuse me, what the president, the White House at WhiteHouse.gov has just put out on the way that they're going to attack domestic terror.

00:30:52.760 They openly say they're going to be working with high tech to find those people who are insurrectionists, extremists, but also all those that they may have infected or affected and who the leaders are.

00:31:11.880 Well, all you have to do is define things a little differently than the average American, which we're learning new definitions of everything right now.

00:31:23.420 So it's it's really more likely than possible when you see that and nobody is reacting.

00:31:33.240 How do we save freedom?

00:31:37.400 Well, it's a good question, and that's the problem with this crisis and confidence.

00:31:41.460 It's been created in our institutions and our law enforcement and our intelligence agencies.

00:31:46.320 So many people think there are double standards, political motivations that, you know, it would be one thing if a trusted agency announced they were legitimately looking at these things.

00:31:57.160 But we see through recent efforts in history and context that too often they are not and that they're violating laws and policies to do the things that they're doing.

00:32:07.100 So there's this great sense of this feeling of hopelessness and even chaos, I think, among those who would like to believe that there is a sense of law and fairness and that our intelligence community and law enforcement officials are going to be doing things fairly.

00:32:21.200 But I think a lot of people know that that's not been the case.

00:32:24.700 You have, you know, we've had Soros's people and everybody else.

00:32:34.200 I mean, I have people going through my garbage, et cetera, et cetera.

00:32:37.620 And they have done a good job of smearing me.

00:32:41.740 Can you describe to the American people the difference between what's happened to me and then what's happened to you or could happen to Tucker if the United States government is doing it?

00:32:54.880 Well, the United States government, as you know, has every tool at their disposal, every advanced form of technology, access through the telephone companies, which they have been requiring to cooperate with them since prior to 2001 on collecting different kinds of surveillance.

00:33:14.600 I did a story that surprised me at the time on the former head of Quest, which is a phone company back in the day that he said that they were all all these phone companies already had dark contracts prior to 2001 from our intelligence agency worth hundreds of millions of dollars to collect information.

00:33:32.240 And he said that in 2001, prior to the terrorist attacks, by the way, he was brought into a SCIF because they would have these meetings, a SCIF, a secure facility.

00:33:43.000 He would have meetings with intelligence officials.

00:33:45.160 And for the first time, they asked them to do something, he said, on U.S. soil, collecting customer information for them that he said was clearly unconstitutional and illegal.

00:33:54.280 This is, again, 2001, prior to the 9-11 attacks.

00:33:57.380 And when he refused to do it, the other phone companies, he said, went along.

00:34:01.800 Not only did they cancel their super valuable dark contracts with the company, suddenly he found himself charged by the federal government with insider trading, and he went to prison for a time.

00:34:13.460 So I think this is a really dangerous thing.

00:34:15.880 The government has these tools and this potential, I would call it, blackmail material at their disposal.

00:34:22.540 And then I would also point out to your listeners, Glenn, it's not just one operation, somebody that goes through an NSA database improperly or FBI agents that turn in false information for a wiretap.

00:34:35.980 There are many operations we now know about, including in my case, some of the spying that was done on me was done through a rogue team out of the Baltimore U.S. Attorney's Office under Rod Rosenstein.

00:34:47.540 And we know that from a former federal agent involved, as well as the forensics.

00:34:51.640 So there's all kinds of teams, dark groups, rogue operations that could be doing different aspects of this kind of spying, and all connected to the government.

00:35:02.900 Give me some hope.

00:35:04.680 What is being done to – I mean, I've had congressmen and senators come to me and say that they have been – they've received veiled threats from the intelligence community.

00:35:19.460 When they're in small groups, people have come in and said, we have some information that some of your colleagues, and you may be in this room, are working with foreign governments.

00:35:34.880 And we just want you to know, for your protection, we are monitoring things, but just know that we're on it.

00:35:45.140 And they received that as a threat.

00:35:48.240 One of them said, are you telling us you're monitoring all of our communications?

00:35:55.160 And the response was, I'm not at liberty to say one way or another.

00:36:01.160 And they took that as a threat, whether they're following through with that or not.

00:36:04.280 But there are members of Congress that truly believe that they are being watched and listened to.

00:36:12.660 And when you have that kind of a system against you, you have no chance of doing the right thing in Congress and standing for the people.

00:36:22.120 You don't stand a chance.

00:36:23.520 Well, let me tell you a couple of incidents that have been documented.

00:36:28.000 We know that in 2009 that the intel community, the NSA, secretly recorded and listened in on Democrat Congresswoman Jane Harmon because somebody ultimately leaked her name to the press as well as some recordings.

00:36:41.220 Same thing happened to Dennis Kucinich, a congressman, another Democrat.

00:36:44.920 This happens to both parties.

00:36:46.160 It's not something that's isolated to one over time.

00:36:49.220 I mean, it's a fact.

00:36:50.060 And then I was told some years back by a staffer for a top member of the Senate, kind of similar to what you're saying, that they were called in, these staffers, by intel officials and told, we're going to be looking at your phone records.

00:37:05.780 Again, this is something people kind of accept now in a way, I think, which they shouldn't.

00:37:09.920 This is stunning that our intelligence agencies would be listening in on members of Congress and their staff.

00:37:16.000 This is something that should never happen.

00:37:17.860 And the staffer told me they were just stunned to be told that this was going to happen.

00:37:22.880 And I said, well, did anybody in the meeting, any congressional staffers speak up and tell these intelligence people not to do it?

00:37:31.660 And he said, no.

00:37:32.820 And I said, why not?

00:37:33.840 He said, we were afraid we would look guilty of something if we did, because supposedly the intelligence officials were looking for leaks to the press or something.

00:37:42.740 So nobody wanted to say no for fear of looking guilty.

00:37:47.120 And this was years ago.

00:37:48.600 I think they've been doing that ever since.

00:37:50.020 And we're probably doing that prior to that and collecting all kinds of information that, yes, could conceivably be used against members of Congress and their staff.

00:37:57.920 Cheryl Atkinson, if you have not seen her investigative work recently, make sure you follow full measure.

00:38:08.940 It comes out once a week, and it is really good.

00:38:11.360 Also, her books are tremendous.

00:38:13.480 Her latest is slanted.

00:38:15.640 You can find her at CherylAtkinson.com.

00:38:19.380 That's CherylAtkinson.com.

00:38:21.280 Or you can follow her on Twitter at Cheryl Atkinson.

00:38:25.000 Thank you so much, Cheryl.

00:38:26.040 Appreciate it.

00:38:26.900 God bless.

00:38:27.360 Take care.

The Glenn Beck Program - June 30, 2021

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