The FBI has finally tracked down the notorious Louise Lynn McNichol, or is it just Lois? We talk about her and her gang, the January 6th breach of the U.S. Capitol, Tucker Carlson, and a woman who has dealt with similar situations.
00:05:45.700So, uh, she said, quote, I would have never been there.
00:05:49.880I had a clue that it was going to turn out the way it did because it was never my intent of being part of anything that's so disgraceful to the American people.
00:25:39.580Only Congress can force transparency on the intelligence agencies, and they should do that immediately.
00:25:45.820Spying on opposition journalists is incompatible with democracy.
00:25:51.040If they are doing it to us, and again, they are definitely doing it to us, they are almost certainly doing it to others.
00:25:58.960This is scary, and we need to stop it right away.
00:26:02.660Now, the NSA has responded on June 28, 2021.
00:26:08.400Tucker Carlson alleged the National Security Agency has been monitoring our electronic communication and is planning to leak them in an attempt to take this show off the air.
00:26:20.860Tucker Carlson has never been an intelligence target of the agency, and the NSA has never had any plans to try to take his program off the air.
00:26:32.040NSA has a foreign intelligence mission.
00:26:34.660We target foreign powers to generate insights on foreign activities that could harm the United States, with limited exceptions, e.g., an emergency.
00:26:45.180NSA may not target a U.S. citizen without a court order that explicitly authorizes targeting.
00:26:53.020Somebody who knows an awful lot about this is Cheryl Atkinson, who has been spied on herself by the United States government, investigative reporter, and host of Full Measure with Cheryl Atkinson, and also the author of Slanted.
00:27:16.020I don't know how people come to this leaning toward the NSA.
00:27:23.700I mean, everything that has happened recently, and quite honestly, if you want to be a free people, you shouldn't give the benefit of the doubt right away to the government on something like this.
00:27:37.800Yeah, I've tracked the proven instances.
00:27:40.940These are just the ones that have been reported publicly through documentation, you know, pre, actually for decades, but starting in the 2009 time period.
00:27:50.700We know the government was proven to have spied on members of Congress, their staff, journalists.
00:27:57.320We know that intelligence officials gave false information on these questions when they testified to Congress.
00:28:02.700So again, like you say, the default position should be, we know this is being done and has been done.
00:28:08.040And if they can prove otherwise or are upfront and forthright with their information, perhaps we could listen to that, but they never are.
00:28:15.460We know that they have the ability to capture all communications in the United States.
00:28:27.940We know that they do capture all communications, but they say it's just on the meta level.
00:28:35.220However, if you're wanting to target somebody, it's not that hard to do it.
00:28:40.840And the NSA says, unless it's an emergency.
00:28:43.800Well, if the United States government is convinced that the largest insurrection ever to happen since the Civil War was January 6th, and that came from Trump supporters and Trump supporters watch and listen to me, Tucker Carlson, you.
00:29:00.240Well, then doesn't that doesn't that qualify in some twisted way to a dirty government that, yeah, they have the right to spy or to read e-mails and texts?
00:29:18.520You know, they will find a way to justify whether they believe it or don't believe it.
00:29:22.600They can find a way to put down on paper the necessity, at least make the argument that this is something that they must do.
00:29:29.640And they're authorized to do for national security.
00:29:32.380But because it's done in secret and through the FISA court, where we usually never know what the justification is that's presented and we're never meant to know, we can't say whether they did it properly.
00:29:45.500We can't tell whether they manufactured information like they did against Carter Page, the Trump associate, to spy on him.
00:29:53.960But I would say, Glenn, you know, I've been talking about this for years since I got the forensic proof that it happened to me without them ever being stopped and nobody being held accountable.
00:30:05.040Of course, we can expect more of the same.
00:30:07.160There's been no change, no deviation from the path of illegally and improperly spying on people.
00:30:12.660And in my case, you know, I learned through courts, I still have a case pending, but through a lot of court action over the years, I learned that government officials enjoy a great deal of immunity from their crimes or acts that they commit or oversee while in office.
00:30:28.680Congress would have to change the law to actually hold them accountable for some of these surveillance abuses.
00:30:35.840It is truly terrifying when you when you when you think and read, excuse me, what the president, the White House at WhiteHouse.gov has just put out on the way that they're going to attack domestic terror.
00:30:52.760They openly say they're going to be working with high tech to find those people who are insurrectionists, extremists, but also all those that they may have infected or affected and who the leaders are.
00:31:11.880Well, all you have to do is define things a little differently than the average American, which we're learning new definitions of everything right now.
00:31:23.420So it's it's really more likely than possible when you see that and nobody is reacting.
00:31:37.400Well, it's a good question, and that's the problem with this crisis and confidence.
00:31:41.460It's been created in our institutions and our law enforcement and our intelligence agencies.
00:31:46.320So many people think there are double standards, political motivations that, you know, it would be one thing if a trusted agency announced they were legitimately looking at these things.
00:31:57.160But we see through recent efforts in history and context that too often they are not and that they're violating laws and policies to do the things that they're doing.
00:32:07.100So there's this great sense of this feeling of hopelessness and even chaos, I think, among those who would like to believe that there is a sense of law and fairness and that our intelligence community and law enforcement officials are going to be doing things fairly.
00:32:21.200But I think a lot of people know that that's not been the case.
00:32:24.700You have, you know, we've had Soros's people and everybody else.
00:32:34.200I mean, I have people going through my garbage, et cetera, et cetera.
00:32:37.620And they have done a good job of smearing me.
00:32:41.740Can you describe to the American people the difference between what's happened to me and then what's happened to you or could happen to Tucker if the United States government is doing it?
00:32:54.880Well, the United States government, as you know, has every tool at their disposal, every advanced form of technology, access through the telephone companies, which they have been requiring to cooperate with them since prior to 2001 on collecting different kinds of surveillance.
00:33:14.600I did a story that surprised me at the time on the former head of Quest, which is a phone company back in the day that he said that they were all all these phone companies already had dark contracts prior to 2001 from our intelligence agency worth hundreds of millions of dollars to collect information.
00:33:32.240And he said that in 2001, prior to the terrorist attacks, by the way, he was brought into a SCIF because they would have these meetings, a SCIF, a secure facility.
00:33:43.000He would have meetings with intelligence officials.
00:33:45.160And for the first time, they asked them to do something, he said, on U.S. soil, collecting customer information for them that he said was clearly unconstitutional and illegal.
00:33:54.280This is, again, 2001, prior to the 9-11 attacks.
00:33:57.380And when he refused to do it, the other phone companies, he said, went along.
00:34:01.800Not only did they cancel their super valuable dark contracts with the company, suddenly he found himself charged by the federal government with insider trading, and he went to prison for a time.
00:34:13.460So I think this is a really dangerous thing.
00:34:15.880The government has these tools and this potential, I would call it, blackmail material at their disposal.
00:34:22.540And then I would also point out to your listeners, Glenn, it's not just one operation, somebody that goes through an NSA database improperly or FBI agents that turn in false information for a wiretap.
00:34:35.980There are many operations we now know about, including in my case, some of the spying that was done on me was done through a rogue team out of the Baltimore U.S. Attorney's Office under Rod Rosenstein.
00:34:47.540And we know that from a former federal agent involved, as well as the forensics.
00:34:51.640So there's all kinds of teams, dark groups, rogue operations that could be doing different aspects of this kind of spying, and all connected to the government.
00:35:04.680What is being done to – I mean, I've had congressmen and senators come to me and say that they have been – they've received veiled threats from the intelligence community.
00:35:19.460When they're in small groups, people have come in and said, we have some information that some of your colleagues, and you may be in this room, are working with foreign governments.
00:35:34.880And we just want you to know, for your protection, we are monitoring things, but just know that we're on it.
00:36:23.520Well, let me tell you a couple of incidents that have been documented.
00:36:28.000We know that in 2009 that the intel community, the NSA, secretly recorded and listened in on Democrat Congresswoman Jane Harmon because somebody ultimately leaked her name to the press as well as some recordings.
00:36:41.220Same thing happened to Dennis Kucinich, a congressman, another Democrat.
00:36:50.060And then I was told some years back by a staffer for a top member of the Senate, kind of similar to what you're saying, that they were called in, these staffers, by intel officials and told, we're going to be looking at your phone records.
00:37:05.780Again, this is something people kind of accept now in a way, I think, which they shouldn't.
00:37:09.920This is stunning that our intelligence agencies would be listening in on members of Congress and their staff.
00:37:16.000This is something that should never happen.
00:37:17.860And the staffer told me they were just stunned to be told that this was going to happen.
00:37:22.880And I said, well, did anybody in the meeting, any congressional staffers speak up and tell these intelligence people not to do it?
00:37:33.840He said, we were afraid we would look guilty of something if we did, because supposedly the intelligence officials were looking for leaks to the press or something.
00:37:42.740So nobody wanted to say no for fear of looking guilty.
00:37:48.600I think they've been doing that ever since.
00:37:50.020And we're probably doing that prior to that and collecting all kinds of information that, yes, could conceivably be used against members of Congress and their staff.
00:37:57.920Cheryl Atkinson, if you have not seen her investigative work recently, make sure you follow full measure.
00:38:08.940It comes out once a week, and it is really good.