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00:00:00.000 Hey, today is a really great podcast.

00:00:02.180 I think you're going to have a lot of fun and also learn an awful lot.

00:00:05.580 We start with Tim Walls, or as they like to call him in Minnesota, Tampon Tim.

00:00:11.380 You'll find out why.

00:00:14.080 The guy is completely, completely a radical, and there's no reason to pick him unless you just think everybody's now a socialist.

00:00:25.260 Is this arrogance, or do they know something we don't know?

00:00:28.440 We talk about that.

00:00:29.360 Also, the head of the FEC is on with us to talk about the money from ActBlue and what is happening with the fundraising for Kamala Harris.

00:00:43.700 What's legal, what's not, and are they looking into these smurfs, if you will, at ActBlue?

00:00:53.760 There's something really dirty that appears to be happening with Democratic fundraising.

00:00:58.460 Will it be exposed?

00:01:01.020 That's the theme, actually, of our TV show tonight.

00:01:04.140 You don't want to miss that.

00:01:05.760 Also, Nigel Farage joins me.

00:01:08.140 And in talking to Nigel Farage over in England, they're on the verge of civil war.

00:01:12.860 We go into Jamie Raskin, who is also saying that a civil war is coming, and he knows what's going to cause it, Congress.

00:01:23.760 And then we talk to Nigel Farage.

00:01:26.380 And there's an interesting pattern that arrives.

00:01:29.120 It seems like we are all being ruled by the same people.

00:01:34.800 So, is our election about Democrats and Republicans, or is it about a global cabal against those who will stand against it?

00:01:44.180 All on today's podcast.

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00:03:10.280 You're listening to The Best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:03:14.560 Well, joining me today is Pat Gray from Pat Gray.

00:03:16.320 I'm a lady's panelist in your show today. 0.93

00:03:17.980 And Chewing the Fat with Jeffy, and you guys were on quite a roll with Tim Walls.

00:03:23.860 You like him about as much as I do.

00:03:26.200 Oh, man.

00:03:27.860 He's quickly risen to the top of my list of people that I dislike with a very intense disliking.

00:03:37.000 What do you mean you don't like?

00:03:38.880 Now I didn't get that impression from you earlier at all.

00:03:41.440 I was a little subtle.

00:03:43.040 Maybe I was too subtle.

00:03:44.100 Because I mentioned that I dislike him with all the intensity of a trillion white-hot burning suns.

00:03:52.620 Maybe that's not enough.

00:03:54.940 I don't know.

00:03:56.020 Yeah, I'm not sure what you were saying with that.

00:03:59.140 Now, could it be, could it be, because he says things like this, cut 11, please.

00:04:05.160 Here's Tim Walls.

00:04:06.980 And I think seeing a plan that's out there, talking about it with folks, knowing that he's not going to do anything.

00:04:14.760 You know, he talks about this wall.

00:04:16.400 I always say, let me know how high it is.

00:04:17.940 If it's 25 feet, then I'll invest in the 30-foot ladder factory.

00:04:20.800 That's not how you stop this.

00:04:22.300 Yeah, geez.

00:04:24.680 Is it because of stuff like that?

00:04:26.880 It's stuff like that.

00:04:28.120 Uh-huh.

00:04:28.600 And worse, actually.

00:04:30.360 Stuff like that.

00:04:31.000 Well, what could be worse?

00:04:32.020 Here, cut 10.

00:04:33.600 I mean, could it be this?

00:04:34.800 And what we want to say is we're there to protect children.

00:04:37.860 We're there to have you understand that in Minnesota you're going to be protected.

00:04:41.240 And I just want to be clear.

00:04:42.660 I will never understand what goes into the thinking of these folks to bully these children.

00:04:48.060 That is not impacting them in one bit and making it a living hell for children, for families, for adults, for folks who are just trying to bring themselves in.

00:04:58.460 So in Minnesota, we're making it very clear we're not going to cooperate with these folks.

00:05:02.400 We're not going to extradite people.

00:05:03.720 We're going to say that this is a place where you can come to make these decisions.

00:05:08.200 This is – the community, the trans community is as terrified as they've ever been.

00:05:15.540 We've seen attacks across the nation, even here in Minnesota.

00:05:18.560 And we're now saying we have to be much more proactive.

00:05:22.320 We have to be much more aggressive about making sure that folks are protected.

00:05:26.960 Yeah.

00:05:27.240 Folks are protected in getting their noodles cut off and that kind of thing. 0.99

00:05:32.480 Yes.

00:05:32.760 That kind of thing.

00:05:33.500 Children are protected.

00:05:34.480 Okay.

00:05:34.880 Children have a right to have their noodles cut off.

00:05:36.740 They do. 0.98

00:05:37.140 Or their breasts removed. 1.00

00:05:38.080 They do. 0.99

00:05:38.420 If they're six and they don't feel comfortable, cut off their noodle. 1.00

00:05:42.880 That's a really good – who am I?

00:05:45.040 I'm nobody.

00:05:45.460 Yeah.

00:05:45.760 Who are you? 0.99

00:05:46.640 What kind of monster have you become? 1.00

00:05:49.880 You know? 0.99

00:05:50.580 I mean, it's really, really bad.

00:05:53.140 Now, he's also – you know, he was big on COVID.

00:05:59.080 He was – well, when I say he was big on that, I mean he had more nursing home deaths in his state than they had in New York under Cuomo.

00:06:09.880 Yeah.

00:06:11.160 So – but he was – it wasn't that he was a total dictator.

00:06:15.240 It was just that he was a total authoritarian and locked everything down.

00:06:21.620 But he went the extra mile.

00:06:23.600 Here he is, cut 28 now.

00:06:26.080 Here he is on a new way to be neighborly.

00:06:33.060 Hello.

00:06:33.820 You have reached the Department of Public Safety stay-at-home hotline.

00:06:36.780 The information you leave is considered public information.

00:06:40.260 At the tone, please leave the following information.

00:06:43.220 Your name, your callback number, how the stay-at-home order is being violated, and where the stay-at-home order was violated.

00:06:52.140 Thank you.

00:06:53.460 Record your message at the tone.

00:06:55.300 When you are finished, hang up or press pound for more options.

00:07:01.560 And that's, of course –

00:07:03.320 Yeah, that's where you snitch on your neighbor. 0.99

00:07:05.320 Yeah.

00:07:05.500 Hey, I just saw my neighbor pull out of their driveway.

00:07:08.340 They're going somewhere.

00:07:10.060 I think you need to send a SWAT team right now, please, because –

00:07:14.380 Yeah, they left their house.

00:07:16.440 They left their house. 0.99

00:07:17.160 That's just being neighborly, damn it. 0.99

00:07:18.440 That's all that is. 0.98

00:07:19.320 That's all that is.

00:07:20.100 It's just being a good neighbor.

00:07:21.440 Here's cut 29.

00:07:23.500 But we can get out there.

00:07:24.840 Reach out.

00:07:25.540 Make the case.

00:07:26.360 And for one thing, don't ever shy away from our progressive values.

00:07:30.240 One person's socialism is another person's neighborliness.

00:07:34.020 Amen.

00:07:34.380 Amen.

00:07:35.560 Amen.

00:07:36.600 Amen.

00:07:37.560 Now, they just don't understand how the left wants freedom.

00:07:44.660 And the right is just trying to take rights away.

00:07:47.760 You know?

00:07:48.100 Like, they're not taking rights away when they want to take your guns.

00:07:50.880 They're not taking rights away when they lock you in your house until you can't go anywhere.

00:07:56.580 They're not taking any rights away when they say you have to inject this into your body.

00:08:01.860 They're not taking any rights away at all.

00:08:04.600 No.

00:08:04.760 In fact, it's just good neighborly stuff to be able to snitch on your neighbor.

00:08:09.780 That's so American.

00:08:11.200 So folksy.

00:08:12.360 It is.

00:08:12.900 So folksy.

00:08:13.800 And not weird.

00:08:14.600 I'll tell you that.

00:08:15.300 Not weird at all.

00:08:19.320 And when they tell you that you shouldn't be driving SUVs, that doesn't limit your choices on what you can drive.

00:08:26.240 Not at all.

00:08:26.660 He's not taking away your right at all.

00:08:29.620 No.

00:08:30.160 He is just saying that there will be no gasoline cars in the state of Minnesota by 2035.

00:08:37.700 That's all he's saying.

00:08:38.860 Is that a bad thing?

00:08:39.800 In 10 years, nobody's driving gasoline cars because he's also not taking your right away.

00:08:46.380 He's not.

00:08:47.680 He's definitely not when he says we're going to shut down the oil industry.

00:08:52.380 No.

00:08:52.980 He's giving you all kinds of choices.

00:08:54.840 You could have solar panels or you could have, you know, a wind-powered electricity.

00:09:01.800 There's two choices right there.

00:09:03.620 What do you want?

00:09:04.720 Two.

00:09:05.240 How many choices do you need?

00:09:07.700 You know what I mean?

00:09:08.740 Yeah.

00:09:09.400 Right.

00:09:09.960 Man.

00:09:10.200 Right.

00:09:10.560 It's just so crazy what people are saying about him.

00:09:13.960 Now, so he's, you know, I'd like to call him the name that people call him in the state occasionally, and that's Tampon Tim, which I think is very dignified.

00:09:24.740 And shows what he's for, and that is tampons in boys' restrooms. 0.55

00:09:29.460 You know?

00:09:30.080 He, you know, who are you to say you shouldn't have, you should use the restroom, you know, designated for the sex you were born with? 0.97

00:09:39.940 That is so bigoted. 0.97

00:09:41.200 So weird.

00:09:42.700 So weird.

00:09:44.380 This is folksy.

00:09:46.460 You know, you have your boy go in and shove a tampon up where he's bleeding.

00:09:52.820 That's normal.

00:09:54.320 Yeah.

00:09:54.640 Hello.

00:09:55.760 If that's not middle America, I don't know what is.

00:09:59.180 I don't.

00:10:00.540 No.

00:10:01.780 No.

00:10:02.420 It's, you know, and as he said, one man's socialism is another man's neighborliness.

00:10:07.820 And, you know, when I think of a good neighbor, I think of Stalin. 0.89

00:10:13.460 I think of Mao.

00:10:15.500 Yeah.

00:10:15.820 I think of the good neighbors that were turning Jews in, you know, in Germany. 1.00

00:10:21.120 I think of those neighbors.

00:10:22.240 They were neighbor.

00:10:23.520 Neighborly.

00:10:24.400 National Socialist Party.

00:10:27.060 Yeah.

00:10:27.420 In Germany.

00:10:29.000 So it is.

00:10:30.380 It is.

00:10:30.720 Some people would say that socialism, you know, where you rat on a neighbor, hey, there's

00:10:35.860 a Jew living next door.

00:10:38.940 And other people just think that that's just neighborly, you know.

00:10:43.560 It's not socialism.

00:10:44.980 It's just neighborly.

00:10:46.760 And I love that.

00:10:48.100 Now, he's also a man of truth.

00:10:50.680 If you look at cut 12 here, he was telling you the truth the whole time.

00:10:56.660 He was way ahead of the curve.

00:10:58.100 Listen.

00:10:58.780 I've spent a lot of time with the president, and he's great.

00:11:01.540 We're talking.

00:11:02.380 We're chatting and all this.

00:11:03.400 And I think, you know, we all get a little older.

00:11:05.720 That's what happens.

00:11:06.580 But you also gain that insight.

00:11:07.940 And I think when it comes to these issues, working across the aisle to get things done,

00:11:11.720 you see the president just doing this with dignity, doing it with class, getting up every

00:11:15.780 day, doing the work.

00:11:17.020 So I think he's just doing what he does.

00:11:19.140 And I think it's kind of incumbent upon all of us.

00:11:21.220 Look, my mom's 88, still living on the farm, drives herself.

00:11:24.620 Is she the president, though?

00:11:25.680 Folks are able to do this.

00:11:26.840 So I think this little bit of ageism that goes to this, if it's not, that would be something

00:11:30.900 else.

00:11:31.280 They attack all of us on something that's part of it.

00:11:33.460 That's right.

00:11:34.260 That's all.

00:11:34.840 Yeah.

00:11:35.600 Absolutely.

00:11:36.880 How folksy of him.

00:11:38.300 Yeah.

00:11:38.620 You know?

00:11:39.380 Yeah.

00:11:39.700 He's not lying there.

00:11:41.400 He's just being folksy.

00:11:42.680 He's just telling a story.

00:11:44.120 And it turns out that he was absolutely right.

00:11:48.400 He's totally just like his mom, able to drive his car.

00:11:51.060 You know, Tim, I want you, when you get to Washington, you're not going to need a car

00:11:55.840 because, you know, you'll have Secret Service driving you everywhere.

00:11:58.940 Why don't you just hand the keys over to Joe of your car and tell him just to, you know,

00:12:04.680 hey, Joe, why don't you just take it, you know, just park it in the garage around the

00:12:09.800 corner.

00:12:10.660 You're going to be fine.

00:12:12.040 Because I don't think, you know, his mom could drive a car.

00:12:16.220 Sure.

00:12:16.380 Oh, yeah.

00:12:17.140 She's 88.

00:12:18.280 That's older than Joe.

00:12:20.000 She's 88.

00:12:21.520 Now, she's not running the country, but I'm sure she has just as important a position. 0.98

00:12:27.520 And it doesn't mess her up at all, getting old.

00:12:31.700 Well, I will tell you that there was a couple of other things that I think are really, really,

00:12:35.980 really good.

00:12:37.140 Minnesota, there's room in the inn.

00:12:39.280 In fact, let me just play Tampon Tim here on Sanctuary Cities.

00:12:46.460 Cut 13, please.

00:12:48.740 Would you have done the schools any differently?

00:12:50.900 Because I think that's where a lot of parents are upset about what happened with the schools.

00:12:55.060 Do you think you could have made any other choice?

00:12:57.620 Well, I think, just to be clear, over 80% of our students missed less than 10 days of

00:13:01.660 in-class learning.

00:13:02.700 The vast majority of students were in.

00:13:04.820 It depended, again, on population density.

00:13:07.180 Many of these decisions were being made by local folks to be able to do what was necessary

00:13:12.280 to keep them there.

00:13:13.520 I think, again, in hindsight, if we could have known that we would get vaccinations out

00:13:19.440 as quickly as possible, we prioritized teachers and the staff in schools to get there.

00:13:24.240 We're doing it differently now.

00:13:26.220 And since May of 2021, almost every one of our students has been in the entire time and

00:13:32.520 been doing that.

00:13:33.160 So I think, with hindsight, as 2020, perhaps we could have tailored a little bit closer

00:13:39.100 to that.

00:13:39.760 But the fact of the matter is, making the case that we shouldn't have done anything is simply

00:13:43.960 wrong.

00:13:45.460 Yeah, simply wrong.

00:13:46.460 By the way, that was about him shutting down all of the schools, which apparently never

00:13:51.560 happened, Pat.

00:13:52.900 Never, never, never, never happened.

00:13:54.500 Let's go to Cut 13, please.

00:13:56.640 Should Minnesota be a sanctuary state?

00:13:58.160 If the definition of that is that the federal government enforces immigration law and local

00:14:03.920 law enforcement enforces local law, then yes.

00:14:07.160 Should cities be allowed to be sanctuary cities?

00:14:09.360 Yes.

00:14:09.820 Local control.

00:14:10.880 Mm.

00:14:11.780 Yes.

00:14:12.820 Mm.

00:14:13.140 Okay.

00:14:13.380 Local control.

00:14:14.540 Wow.

00:14:15.120 Local control.

00:14:16.580 I mean, he's not for local control on anything else.

00:14:19.280 But when it comes to sanctuary cities, you know, there's, as he said, there is, there

00:14:26.160 is room in the inn, you know, for more Somalis and, and, and everything else.

00:14:31.240 And he has taken, I'm going to give you just a little track record, you know, when we come

00:14:35.760 back here on, on Tim, because he has taken the state of Minnesota and just, I mean, it is

00:14:41.960 just taken off.

00:14:42.880 It's a, it's an entirely new state.

00:14:45.540 It's a rocket ride to the moon with Tim Walls.

00:14:48.380 You know, I, I think Pat, now you could disagree with me, but I think you put a team together

00:14:56.080 like Kamala Harris from California and bring in those California things right to America 1.00

00:15:04.620 and then tampon Tim's Minnesota, what he's done to that state.

00:15:10.460 Yeah.

00:15:10.940 My gosh.

00:15:11.620 Oh, I mean, America is fixed.

00:15:13.840 Imagine that kind of like my nationwide scale.

00:15:15.840 Yeah.

00:15:15.920 Like my dog is.

00:15:16.780 Yeah.

00:15:17.200 Yeah.

00:15:17.440 My dog is fixed as well, but it's going to be, it's going to be fantastic.

00:15:24.740 Preborn is here to remind you that every day, every day, and we have, you know, our young

00:15:30.880 women have been socially, um, uh, brainwashed. 1.00

00:15:36.020 They've been conditioned for decades to think that an abortion is not only a human right, but

00:15:42.340 it's actually a responsible decision that you have to make sometimes.

00:15:45.620 And you know, sometimes even just because you just don't want to, uh, they are isolated,

00:15:50.680 alone, and terrified.

00:15:52.820 They are terrified of the future as young mothers.

00:15:55.860 I mean, some people do it because they can't bring a child into a world world like this.

00:15:59.960 What are you doing?

00:16:00.680 Maybe your child is the one that fixes it.

00:16:03.860 The messaging sticks.

00:16:05.980 And so what do they do?

00:16:07.000 They make an appointment, go through with it, or they have abortion pills sent to them.

00:16:11.760 We have to change the culture and the messaging in this society.

00:16:16.780 Preborn is at the head of that.

00:16:18.940 They're leading the charge to end this kind of insanity.

00:16:22.620 Will you please help them?

00:16:24.780 Preborn.com slash Beck.

00:16:27.380 Preborn.com slash Beck.

00:16:29.400 Or just hit pound 250, keyword baby.

00:16:32.360 Now back to the podcast.

00:16:34.780 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:16:40.660 So Nigel Farage, he was a commodities trader for years.

00:16:45.080 He then started, became a founding member of UKIP in 1993.

00:16:49.820 And he was saying, we got to get out of the EU.

00:16:53.020 Nobody thought it could happen.

00:16:54.700 June 2016, he was the leading figure in the campaign to leave.

00:16:59.600 He was called Mr. Brexit by Donald Trump.

00:17:02.400 The Brexit party stormed a victory in six weeks.

00:17:05.700 And then Prime Minister Theresa May had to step down. 0.77

00:17:09.520 And then he kind of just fell back and he was off the front lines.

00:17:13.220 He started doing some television in 2023.

00:17:17.160 How does a conservative do this?

00:17:18.800 In 2023, he won News Presenter of the Year at the annual television and radio awards ceremony for his show on GB News, which is tremendous.

00:17:29.680 But, boy, the establishment doesn't like it.

00:17:32.000 He's been debanked by Nat West.

00:17:36.240 He fought against it.

00:17:37.800 They fired two CEOs.

00:17:40.580 And the government has promised to change things.

00:17:42.920 Then, this July 4th, on our Independence Day, he won a seat in the House of Commons as a member of Parliament.

00:17:50.280 The result was the biggest ever election swing in modern times.

00:17:55.300 He now leads the Reform UK party.

00:17:58.460 And he joins us now at a dark hour for England.

00:18:04.380 Good friend, Nigel Farage.

00:18:06.300 Welcome to the program, sir.

00:18:07.240 How are you?

00:18:08.460 Glenn, hello.

00:18:09.280 Well, yeah, I'm depressed, to be honest with you.

00:18:12.080 What has happened to my beautiful, very reserved, very quiet, very polite, very Christian, very nice country,

00:18:22.600 where everybody knew the Christian names of their neighbors, where we helped each other, we worked together,

00:18:28.220 we disagreed in elections, and we voted for different parties, and we accepted the result, and we lived our lives.

00:18:34.660 And now we find ourselves, and as I speak to you, there are thought to be 39 protests going to happen across the United Kingdom tonight alone.

00:18:47.400 And many of those will turn violent, and police will be attacked, and cars and buses will be set fire to.

00:18:54.780 So we are in the most terrible trouble.

00:19:00.440 This isn't, I mean, stuff like this hasn't happened.

00:19:04.340 You know, we know in America, V for Vendetta, and, you know, that is, that's kind of based on, you know, what happened in England.

00:19:13.120 I don't even know in the 1600s.

00:19:14.720 They've brought now, the new prime minister has brought the, the standing army back, which was, you know, what happened under Cromwell.

00:19:24.540 It's truly terrifying to watch it from this side of the ocean.

00:19:30.160 I can't imagine what it's like for the average, the average person.

00:19:33.500 Can you tell me what is really happening?

00:19:36.960 Because from over here, it seems as though you're having the same sort of two-tier justice system that we have here, except I think it's worse there.

00:19:46.760 It's, you're in full-fledged denial, the government and the media, that these things are happening that are very, very bad, and that you are losing your country to radicals.

00:20:00.500 And, I mean, I mean, look, Glenn, there is no excuse, there is no excuse for people going out committing acts of violence on either side of the divide.

00:20:12.060 We, you know, we do have, we do have some far-right sort of soccer supporter, yobs, who live out, who live outside the law and mostly have very large pupils, something to do with what they consume, I think. 1.00

00:20:27.300 So we do have some lawless people.

00:20:29.600 On the other side, we have some extreme radical Islamists who have now taken control of parts of our small towns and cities, particularly in the north of England, who now wish to implement Sharia law, who are deeply intolerant of anyone that doesn't bow to the way they want to live.

00:20:52.360 They are the two extremes of what is going on here.

00:20:55.720 And the problem is, threefold, number one, that the police, if you're white and British, they will police you in a very harsh manner.

00:21:07.120 And I'm not saying that's wrong, by the way.

00:21:09.540 You know, I do think lawlessness needs to be dealt with.

00:21:12.620 But my goodness me, my goodness me, we saw the other night in Birmingham, our Midlands capital, we saw the other night hundreds, and I mean hundreds, of young, masked Muslim men, some carrying knives, some carrying swords. 0.97

00:21:31.560 And they went outside a public house that sold alcohol, which, of course, these people believe should be completely banned, along with women having rights and homosexuals being allowed to exist and all those things.

00:21:44.780 And we saw a white man coming out of the pub, being beaten to a pulp, his liver being literally lacerated by these people.

00:21:54.540 We saw windows being broken.

00:21:56.280 And I've actually got the response here from the head of police from Birmingham, who, when he was asked, why did you not police this mob the way you would a bunch of white British people, he said, we had the opportunity to meet with community leaders prior to the event to understand the kind of policing we needed to deliver.

00:22:21.320 So, you know, he went to this group and said, what policing do we need?

00:22:25.280 They said, oh, nothing at all, governor.

00:22:27.380 It'll all be fine.

00:22:28.560 This is what we call two-tier policing, where we dare not, we dare not do stop and search for knives in areas where there's a black community, even though 80% of the murder victims are black for fear of being called racist. 0.79

00:22:45.040 We dare not intervene in Muslim areas for fear of being called Islamophobic. 0.83

00:22:52.540 And yet, if you're a white group going out to protest, you know, we really crack the whip.

00:22:58.820 So two-tier policing has led to deep resentment within the British community.

00:23:03.440 So, Nigel, you and I are on exactly the same page, and I fear for my country because the left has been poking and want violent reactions from the right.

00:23:16.100 And if one person goes out and gives them any excuse, they will crack down.

00:23:22.700 If violence, Martin Luther King and Gandhi were right, and any violence in your country or our country started by people who believe in our country and our rule of law, they're just going to get hammered, and they will lose our countries for that. 0.60

00:23:40.440 However, how do you separate those people who, you know, like they said on BLM, and I don't know if this is the case over in Great Britain, but are there, and they are protesting, and they are upset about what's happening to their country.

00:23:57.780 They see it.

00:23:59.180 The media is in complete denial of any of this stuff.

00:24:03.980 How do you – what is the goal or what is the approach to talk to the regular person that doesn't want to riot, that doesn't want to be violent, but wants somebody to do something where it's equal justice under the law?

00:24:20.980 Well, a couple of quick points there.

00:24:23.560 Within 24 hours of the murder of George Floyd in the Midwest of America, within 24 hours, we had a mob in central London who defaced the statue of Winston Churchill, defiled the cenotaph, which marked the deaths of one and a half million British boys in two world wars.

00:24:50.140 And do you know what our police did?

00:24:52.200 They knelt down in the street and took the knee.

00:24:54.980 They took the knee.

00:24:56.180 They took the knee.

00:24:57.460 They made a political gesture towards an organization because it had the word black in it.

00:25:03.360 I, at the time, said, because of all the years I've spent, all the time I've spent over the last 40 years in America, I know who these people are.

00:25:11.600 They're Marxist.

00:25:12.460 They're bad.

00:25:13.200 They wish to destroy the family, community, the country, Western capitalism, freedom, liberty.

00:25:19.060 And for my pains, I got sacked as a host of the biggest talk radio show in the country.

00:25:27.840 So this is where it started.

00:25:29.960 The BLM thing here is where we saw the very beginnings of two-tier policing.

00:25:34.560 Now, interestingly, you mentioned to me a moment ago, Glenn, Martin Luther King, right?

00:25:40.360 Let us remember, let us all remember what he said in that famous speech, which we know is the I have a dream speech, because this needs to be our guiding principle on both sides of the pond going on if we're to avert violence on a massive scale.

00:25:59.100 And I'm not, I promise you, I'm not over-exaggerating this and the importance of this.

00:26:04.760 Martin Luther King, in that speech, said, I have a dream that one day my four children will be judged not by the color of their skin.

00:26:14.880 I repeat, not by the color of their skin, but by the content of their character.

00:26:23.220 That is what the American civil rights movement in the 60s was all about.

00:26:28.240 It was about equity.

00:26:29.860 It was about equality.

00:26:31.420 It was about fairness.

00:26:33.100 And the march of the Marxist lefts through our institutions, through our public offices, through our education systems, through our universities, through much of our media, much of our political class, is now all about dividing us.

00:26:47.700 You are either gay, or straight, or bisexual, or pansexual, or black, or brown, or Asian, or white, or whatever. 0.55

00:26:57.120 We're being divided up into different groups.

00:27:00.320 And the object of all of this is not to bring us together and make society fairer.

00:27:05.260 It's to turn us against each other in order that a global revolution and a new Marxist regime may come.

00:27:13.860 We need to reaffirm the founding principles of America, the things that we learned here from Magna Carta onwards, the things that the Bible teaches us, that all men should be treated equal regardless of their color, sexual choice, or creed.

00:27:34.080 And if we can get that to be re-understood again, we might just be able to begin to mend the divisions in our society.

00:27:42.620 And if I say those things to you with huge passion, it's because I really am deeply fearful, not just for my country, my communities, what is going to happen tonight in just two or three hours' time, but the entirety of Western civilization.

00:27:58.980 I promise you, this really matters.

00:28:01.020 I tell you, never attend any street rally at night.

00:28:08.440 There is no reason to do it at night.

00:28:11.240 Nothing good happens at night.

00:28:14.200 You're listening to the best of Glenn Beck.

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00:28:21.340 Sean Cooksay is the Federal Election Commission chairperson.

00:28:24.920 I really appreciate you coming on, chairman, and helping us figure out exactly what is going on.

00:28:32.500 We want to start with this situation.

00:28:36.120 How do you transfer money from one person to another legally?

00:28:41.740 Can you do that?

00:28:44.140 Well, thanks for having me on, Glenn.

00:28:45.740 And you're right, what you said at the top, which is that it's a completely unprecedented situation.

00:28:50.840 I mean, we haven't had anything like this happen for at least 50 years to have a presidential nominee drop out just a few weeks before the convention, before he's been formally nominated, and hand over his entire campaign operation, including millions of dollars, cash on hand, to a different candidate, to his vice presidential nominee, although she hasn't been formally nominated yet.

00:29:12.540 But it's really no surprise that this raises a lot of legal questions.

00:29:16.480 It's, again, a completely novel situation.

00:29:19.380 Some experts have tried to argue that this is permissible, but a lot of electional experts have raised a lot of big questions about this.

00:29:26.440 Some have said it is unlawful, that you can't just switch the name on a committee and give it over to another person without that being an illegal transfer.

00:29:35.180 It's something that is going to have to go through an FEC process and maybe a court process, too, to get to the bottom of it.

00:29:40.480 So I know that for my charity, let's say, if I raise money and it is designated for, let's say, hurricanes, I can only use that money to help people recover from hurricane.

00:29:56.160 I cannot transfer it to another, and even if it's a bigger emergency, legally, I can't move that money to any other place.

00:30:05.500 It's the same kind of thing with this, isn't it?

00:30:07.800 I mean, it's a big question what these donors were told and what they thought they were given to.

00:30:14.160 To your point, all of these people were giving money, they thought, to reelect Joe Biden as president.

00:30:20.500 And now they're being told, no, actually, this money is going to a completely different candidate that you may or may not really approve of.

00:30:27.160 One of the big questions that happens under FEC guidance is whether donors in that kind of situation are entitled to a refund or to have the campaign be required to ask their permission to redesignate it.

00:30:42.020 I think one of the big problems, though, is really just the lack of time on the clock.

00:30:46.080 We're in a situation where the election is less than 13 weeks away at this point, and the wheels of government move so slow.

00:30:54.120 I'm concerned that really none of this is going to get resolved before Election Day.

00:30:58.540 And it won't really matter after Election Day, will it?

00:31:02.860 I mean, I think for all intents and purposes, right, any fine or any unwinding that happens after the fact is really not going to do anything to change the vote count on Election Day.

00:31:13.360 So the money she got from the Biden-Harris campaign, they transferred over.

00:31:20.580 But is that really – that's really not that important compared to what she's raising now.

00:31:27.820 I mean, she's raising money hand over fist like I've never seen before.

00:31:33.060 No, I think that's a fair point about maybe why at the end of the day this won't matter much.

00:31:39.400 I mean, reportedly, both the Harris Committee and the Trump Committee, right, are raising hundreds of millions of dollars every month.

00:31:46.440 They have to report that to the FEC every month on the 20th.

00:31:50.920 So, for example, in a little bit less than two weeks here, we'll get the hard numbers on what they raised in July.

00:31:57.820 Harris Committee, I believe, reported over $300 million raised.

00:32:01.740 So it may be the case that whatever cash was left over from the Biden Committee doesn't make a big difference at the end of the day.

00:32:09.060 We're talking to the Federal Election Commission chairperson.

00:32:13.500 He's the guy who is, you know, at the SEC that is – or the FEC that is making sure that all the money is on the up and up and everything is played by the rules.

00:32:23.740 His name is Sean Cooksey, and Sean, to be fair to them, you could make the case that when I gave money to Biden-Harris, a lot of people would say,

00:32:39.700 I was just giving it because I didn't want Donald Trump, and Harris was part of that team, and if Joe Biden would have died, wouldn't the money have gone to her anyway?

00:32:48.780 Well, I think the big problem with that possibility is the fact that this happened before the convention.

00:32:57.300 And so one of the big sort of open questions is what happens when she's on the paperwork?

00:33:03.740 It's called – you know, they call her the vice presidential nominee, but she really hasn't gone through the roll call vote.

00:33:08.760 She hasn't been nominated by the convention yet.

00:33:11.640 In that case, you know, it would also have been possible for Joe Biden to switch vice presidential nominees, and things would be very different.

00:33:18.260 And so I think, again, it's going to have to go through some kind of court process ultimately at the end of the day to get that settled,

00:33:25.240 and I don't think that's going to happen before the election, unfortunately.

00:33:29.440 So I don't know if this is your purview or you can comment on this, but this is the first time that I have seen in American history

00:33:36.780 where the democratic process didn't really happen.

00:33:44.580 I mean, it happened.

00:33:45.980 People went to vote, but they didn't vote for her to be president, and it was, you know, really funky.

00:33:54.640 I think a lot of people on the democratic side wanted a different candidate, but the DNC shut it down.

00:34:01.540 And then at the last minute, they say this was a grassroots movement, but it appeared to be, to me at least, a coup.

00:34:08.840 You know, he's not going to leave, he's not going to leave, he's not going to leave.

00:34:12.800 They give him a deadline of Sunday, deadline for what?

00:34:16.720 He's already made his decision.

00:34:18.520 And then Sunday, at the very last minute, he changes his mind.

00:34:21.780 And then Barack Obama comes out and says, we're just going to see how this democratic, you know, process works.

00:34:30.500 And there were no votes.

00:34:32.020 It was just going to the electors and the superdelegates.

00:34:38.720 And that's just the party.

00:34:42.460 I mean, is this totally funky?

00:34:46.420 Is this legal?

00:34:47.980 I mean, I think you're right that it is absolutely not a grassroots nomination process.

00:34:55.960 I think it's really the exact opposite of that, which is party leaders, party elders coming together to decide, you know, amongst a couple dozen of them who they want as their nominee.

00:35:08.660 And in fact, it's really sort of a throwback to the way parties used to nominate presidential candidates, right?

00:35:14.640 Sort of in the proverbial smoke-filled rooms where they would say, you know, primaries be damned.

00:35:21.160 We don't really care what the voters think.

00:35:22.760 We're going to just make a selection as the bosses of who's going to be up for president.

00:35:27.680 And I think that's really kind of a good summation of what happened here.

00:35:32.660 And is that still legal to do that?

00:35:34.940 I mean, the party's going to make their own rules, right?

00:35:37.100 Right.

00:35:38.300 At the end of the day, the parties make their own rules.

00:35:41.100 They chose, you know, several decades ago to really go to primary voting processes, but they don't have to do that.

00:35:48.420 Ultimately, the party decides how they want to select their nominees.

00:35:51.860 Okay, so tonight, we have been following this ActBlue and all of these organizations that are raising money for the Democrats.

00:36:04.280 And to me, and I'm not asking you to comment on this, nor am I putting words in your mouth.

00:36:09.700 This is me saying this.

00:36:10.940 I've done enough research on the Tides Foundation to know how this shell game works.

00:36:17.520 And they're raising all kinds of dark money through things like ActBlue.

00:36:22.380 And they're setting up all these different organizations.

00:36:26.520 And I guess you can do that.

00:36:27.700 That's fine.

00:36:28.280 But the one thing that is happening now is there are reports that they're doing something called smurfing.

00:36:36.620 It's been called smurfing.

00:36:37.820 And that is, if somebody makes a donation of, let's say, $100, all of a sudden, it'll show up on the books that they made an $18,000 donation.

00:36:47.540 And they did it in ways that aren't even humanly possible.

00:36:52.140 And we looked into this tonight.

00:36:55.800 I mean, when we show you this, America, I think you're going to be flabbergasted.

00:37:01.260 James O'Keefe did a recent report where he highlighted donations to a Cindy Noe, N-O-W-E, of Maryland.

00:37:09.680 She claimed to have not made the majority of the donations.

00:37:13.500 If you go to the FEC data page on Cindy Noe of Maryland, the donations through ActBlue do seem suspicious.

00:37:21.960 We're not saying that it's illegal.

00:37:24.520 We don't know yet.

00:37:25.380 Coincidentally, through an accident, as we were double-checking the work, one of our researchers typed in Cindy Rowe, R-O-W-E, of Massachusetts.

00:37:38.240 And you find the same exact donation pattern on a Cindy Rowe instead of a Cindy Noe.

00:37:45.780 So, yes, James O'Keefe was right about Cindy Noe. 0.99

00:37:49.460 But the same pattern is there with Cindy Rowe.

00:37:52.420 What makes it even more suspicious is that the names are nearly identical, only one difference.

00:38:00.340 Are you guys looking into these irregularities here or these strange instances?

00:38:08.780 Well, you know, as you said, as a matter of law and FEC policy, I can't comment on any investigation the FEC may or may not be doing.

00:38:16.680 But what I can say at a general level is that the FEC takes misreporting and straw donor schemes, which is, I think, another name for what you called smurfing.

00:38:26.260 We take those things extremely seriously.

00:38:28.820 Those are some of the most serious violations that we have at the FEC where you are misreporting your identity on campaign finance reports, where you are giving someone else money in order to make a political contribution for you.

00:38:41.180 Those are very serious violations.

00:38:43.500 Many people have gone to prison for those kinds of things.

00:38:46.480 And I know that this is an issue that reporters have been focused on.

00:38:51.160 I know it's one that other government agencies are looking into.

00:38:54.220 The Virginia Attorney General, I know, and the Committee on House Administration and Congress are looking into this.

00:39:00.020 I think it's worth watching their work on that issue and any results that come out of their investigations.

00:39:07.540 And is it because the FEC is, I mean, you may or may not be investigating it, but you're so slow.

00:39:14.400 Will it matter if the FEC picks it up?

00:39:17.960 Well, ultimately, we do move as fast as our resources allow on any enforcement matter.

00:39:25.280 And there are also opportunities for private parties to get involved if we move too slow under the statute, whether something can come out.

00:39:33.920 Wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, wait, what does that mean?

00:39:36.460 Private parties can get involved.

00:39:37.980 What does that mean?

00:39:38.460 Well, under the statute for the FEC, when you file a complaint with the FEC, any private person can file a complaint with the FEC alleging a violation of campaign finance law.

00:39:49.600 And under the statute, if the FEC doesn't act on that complaint, doesn't give an up or down vote on whether this is something we're going to look into or not, within 120 days,

00:40:00.940 the person who filed the complaint can then sue, saying that we are too slow, we are not acting on their complaint fast enough,

00:40:09.160 and then ultimately, if it's shown that we're not acting on that complaint fast enough, that person then can file a private lawsuit to enforce the law themselves.

00:40:18.980 Wow. Wow.

00:40:21.540 And like the Virginia Attorney General, I'm not sure if you can answer this or if you even know the answer,

00:40:29.420 but the Attorney Generals, they can only look at the potential fraud that's happening in their state.

00:40:38.560 So Cindy Rowe in Massachusetts would have to be the Massachusetts Attorney General? 1.00

00:40:44.840 I don't know the specific limits on their authority.

00:40:49.180 Certainly, Attorney Generals have really wide-ranging subpoena authority and investigatory authority to launch their own inquiries into these things,

00:40:57.700 to start demanding documents and witnesses and interviews, whether that could be limited to just their own states.

00:41:04.480 It might depend on the state.

00:41:05.520 It might depend on where ActBlue is operating and where their servers are and things like that, sort of as a jurisdictional question.

00:41:12.660 So I think the one thing that you do know, though, is that Congress has jurisdiction throughout the entire country,

00:41:18.540 and they wouldn't be limited in that kind of way.

00:41:20.700 One last question, and we've got to run because I have a network break.

00:41:24.860 But they'll say that this is just all politics.

00:41:29.540 This is just a smear campaign.

00:41:31.060 I don't want to be involved in any of that.

00:41:32.600 I want to look for real things.

00:41:34.680 Is there enough smoke here to believe that this is worth questioning?

00:41:39.480 It's no outcome, but it is a legitimate line of inquiry.

00:41:45.060 I mean, I think the actions sort of speak for themselves here when you have multiple agencies,

00:41:52.980 members of Congress, attorneys general who have been alerted and are interested enough to operationalize their offices,

00:42:00.760 to sort of get machinery moving to get the facts.

00:42:04.580 I think that really speaks for itself.

00:42:07.100 This is the Federal Election Commission, the FEC Chairman, Sean Cooksey.

00:42:13.500 Sean, thank you so much.

00:42:14.860 God bless.

00:42:15.420 Thank you so much, Glenn.

00:42:16.860 You want to find out everything we're talking about in great detail,

00:42:20.160 watch tonight's Wednesday night special on Blaze TV.

00:42:23.220 I think it'll open your eyes, and hopefully you'll get some friends to see it, too.

The Glenn Beck Program - August 07, 2024

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