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00:03:39.200 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

00:03:41.440 Well, there's some more breaking news.

00:03:43.740 And it just doesn't get better for the deep state.

00:03:47.540 Just the News has come out with an FBI timeline.

00:03:52.600 It's a bombshell release that just came out that exposes political interference in the

00:03:58.180 Clinton corruption probe.

00:04:00.620 No.

00:04:01.180 We have a guy who has written the book literally on the Clinton cash, Peter Schweitzer, who is with us to kind of tell us what this means, what is in the memo.

00:04:14.300 And are we moving closer to coming to the truth about the corruption of the Clinton foundation?

00:04:21.980 Peter, welcome to the program.

00:04:23.940 Hey, Glenn.

00:04:24.780 Always great to be with you.

00:04:25.900 Thanks for having me.

00:04:26.820 This one is this one must make you feel good.

00:04:29.060 I mean, finally, some proof and you're vindicated.

00:04:34.140 Well, you know, it's funny, Glenn, and I can talk about this openly now because the New York Times last year outed me as working as a confidential informant with the FBI.

00:04:46.360 What that really means is I shared information with them.

00:04:48.960 I didn't get paid.

00:04:49.920 But as we did research, we shared it.

00:04:52.220 And we got involved with the FBI back in 2015 when Clinton cash came out.

00:04:57.280 They approached us.

00:04:58.660 And at one point, there were four FBI field offices.

00:05:03.000 So, in other words, these are the agents in the field, Little Rock, Arkansas, Washington, D.C., New York, and also, interestingly, the FBI extension office in Nigeria.

00:05:16.200 Because, remember, with the Clintons, it was global corruption.

00:05:19.280 And they actually had in Nigeria a audio tape of a very corrupt oligarch bragging on a phone conversation about how he had donated to the Clinton Foundation and gotten favors in return.

00:05:31.120 So, this was an investigation.

00:05:34.580 I mean, Clinton cash was part of it.

00:05:35.960 It certainly wasn't the only part of it.

00:05:38.560 But the field offices were raring to go.

00:05:42.280 And they were investigating.

00:05:43.740 They were talking to people.

00:05:45.060 They were gathering information.

00:05:47.280 And immediately, FBI headquarters basically said, hey, you know, we don't want you doing this.

00:05:52.760 And now what you have with the great reporting of John Solomon in Just the News is Sally Yates, a Department of Justice official, telling them a year or so later, shut this down.

00:06:05.160 You are not to look at this anymore.

00:06:07.540 And that, of course, is highly, highly, highly unusual because field offices are supposed to organically follow leads and investigate.

00:06:18.400 And to have the headquarters shut down an investigation on somebody as important as the Clintons, you know, speaks, of course, of the problems of the deep state that you've highlighted for so many years.

00:06:29.240 Yeah, the deep state is really becoming clear right now.

00:06:32.980 I did a show last night, Peter, that where you can now see the outlines and you can see where they learned it and how they perfected it, you know, beginning in 2020.

00:06:43.520 And it's the same group of people, you know.

00:06:46.300 It's kind of like when we were doing the progressive thing from the 60s.

00:06:49.380 You'd see, wait a minute, it's just one group of people.

00:06:51.840 It's just like, you know, I don't know, 20 to 100, maybe 200 people.

00:06:55.880 But it's the same ones.

00:06:57.160 They're always there at the scene of the crime.

00:07:00.420 Sally Yates, I remember that name because I think Donald Trump, that was one of the first controversies he had.

00:07:06.560 He fired her for some reason.

00:07:08.140 Do you remember why?

00:07:10.200 Yes, I believe it was because of things that were being extracted at the Department of Justice.

00:07:17.640 And, yeah, she's one of these figures that you're talking about there.

00:07:21.160 That's part of the you would call the permanent apparatus in Washington, D.C.

00:07:25.800 And what they do is they serve in senior government positions.

00:07:28.980 They may leave for a while and they'll go and work for a powerful law firm or they'll work for an investment fund or whatever, make a little extra money.

00:07:37.080 Because, of course, government doesn't pay them all of what they want.

00:07:40.600 And then they go back to government.

00:07:42.340 But oftentimes they end up doing favors, of course, for the people who paid them when they were on the outside.

00:07:48.280 And they are invited back into government because they're all kind of involved in this revolving door.

00:07:56.320 And, you know, again, for Yates to take that position to say, essentially, I don't care what you guys are seeing and what you're investigating.

00:08:05.820 Shut it down.

00:08:06.760 And, by the way, she felt comfortable doing that.

00:08:09.320 She's not protecting the people in power. 0.99

00:08:11.240 She's doing this in 2017 when Donald Trump is in office.

00:08:15.680 And which, again, speaks to the fact that for all the rhetoric and the claims from the deep state that Trump somehow politicized the Department of Justice,

00:08:25.460 further proof that he did not, that the permanent state still ran those institutions during his first term.

00:08:32.620 Listen to this.

00:08:33.780 This is a timeline released by the FBI through Just the News.

00:08:37.580 The timeline stated that in July or August 2015, an FBI supervisory special agent at the Washington field office had, quote,

00:08:45.660 a brief discussion, end quote, with a member of the U.S. Attorney's Office for the District of Columbia, quote,

00:08:51.800 regarding the Clinton Foundation allegations, which had been focused on by the because of the book Clinton Cash by Peter Schweitzer.

00:09:00.280 At the time, an investigator, whose name remains redacted, was in the process of attempting to predicate an investigation based on the allegations.

00:09:10.380 I mean, what is it like to know that the government was revolving around you and what you had exposed?

00:09:18.620 Well, I tell you, Glenn, I appreciate that.

00:09:20.860 I mean, we always base our information on paper trail, as you know.

00:09:25.980 We don't use anonymous sources.

00:09:27.280 And what happened is we were approached by people at the FBI and they said, hey, we're interested in this.

00:09:33.820 What can you share with us?

00:09:34.780 And we said everything.

00:09:36.040 We kind of pushed all the chips on the table.

00:09:39.180 And so that includes, you know, the timing of financial transactions.

00:09:45.440 A lot of the investigation started as it related to this Uranium One deal.

00:09:50.760 You and I talked about this multiple times in 2015.

00:09:53.440 Yeah. And this is the one where the, you know, the Clintons ended up getting one hundred and forty five million dollars from the Clinton Foundation.

00:10:01.620 They also got speaking fees from these group of investors that Bill Clinton helped arrange the sale of American uranium company to a company that was owned by Canadians.

00:10:13.700 But but by the way, the origin of that company was Russia.

00:10:17.820 So, you know, all sorts of alarm bells were going off on that.

00:10:21.900 But as the FBI investigation continued, they became involved and interested in other areas.

00:10:27.340 The Nigerian investors, for example, because when Hillary Clinton was secretary of state, we got these emails through the Freedom of Information Act.

00:10:38.600 And when they were doing the Haitian Reconstruction after the earthquake, for example, which Hillary Clinton was in charge of, people would send emails to the secretary of state's office saying, we want a contract for Haitian Reconstruction.

00:10:54.000 We are an FOB.

00:10:55.720 And I thought, FOB, what's that?

00:10:57.600 Turns out it was shorthand for friend of Bill.

00:11:00.780 So the investigation began with Uranium One, but it included contracting with the State Department on Haitian Reconstruction, Nigerian deals.

00:11:10.960 There was an Indian component.

00:11:12.620 So this was a global investigation.

00:11:15.320 And what they, of course, as investigators had was subpoena power.

00:11:19.040 But that was thwarted as well.

00:11:21.520 There were instances I know where they wanted to access banking records, for example, and they were denied the ability to do that by the Department of Justice.

00:11:30.540 So the investigation never really got off the ground.

00:11:35.220 And yet these field agents, and I can't speak highly enough of them, they doggedly continued those investigations because they saw how much smoke and fire was actually there.

00:11:46.780 And this is what Loretta Lynch, and we now know, and Bill Clinton kind of spoke about on Clinton's plane on the tarmac in Phoenix in 2016,

00:11:57.440 because she was, apparently, she was delivering a message that, don't worry, these scandals are going away. 0.77

00:12:06.500 I have word from FBI, and we've got it under control, and it's all going to be shut down.

00:12:11.400 Correct?

00:12:12.740 Yes, that's exactly right.

00:12:14.120 So, again, you know, there's a clear example.

00:12:16.660 You have an attorney general, Loretta Lynch, who flat out lied to the American people. 0.98

00:12:21.200 She was asked about, you know, what that conversation was about, and they basically said they were talking about grandkids.

00:12:27.540 Grandkids and golf.

00:12:28.780 Yeah, yeah, grandkids and golf.

00:12:30.760 Jeez.

00:12:31.160 And, you know, you're flat out lying to the American people, and, of course, you've got Bill Clinton involved in it.

00:12:38.700 And this is the reason, as much as the left wants to say the reason people don't trust government is because, you know, people like you, Glenn, are trashing it all the time.

00:12:48.300 No, you're exposing what it does, and they continue to lie to us and to deceive.

00:12:53.360 And this is why we're a state in America where people don't trust governmental institutions, and I think rightfully so.

00:12:59.600 So, are we any closer to anybody going to jail?

00:13:06.240 As it relates to the Clintons, and, of course, I always predicate this, I'm not a lawyer.

00:13:10.620 But what I would say is part of the challenge with those financial crimes is the issue of statute of limitations.

00:13:17.660 But when it comes to the cover-up, I think you have some real, real possibilities there from a criminal standpoint.

00:13:26.500 I think it's great that Congressman Comer's committee subpoenaed the Clintons.

00:13:31.660 They're going to be coming in under oath to be asked about, I think, a wide variety of questions.

00:13:38.680 Do you think they actually go?

00:13:43.520 Seriously.

00:13:44.080 I think Bill Clinton is going to claim executive privilege, which he really can't, because this all happened after he was president.

00:13:53.680 That will be tied to him in the courts.

00:13:55.160 I think Hillary Clinton will probably have to show up. 1.00

00:13:58.400 I think she has more constitutional responsibilities to do that than Bill Clinton does as the next president. 1.00

00:14:05.660 And I think she's probably going to get more of what we've gotten testimony in the past, which is, I don't recall.

00:14:11.840 I don't remember pleading the fifth.

00:14:14.280 What difference does it make?

00:14:17.080 One last thought on this. 0.87

00:14:19.260 I see Clintons, the Clintons, what they got away with in the Oval Office, you know, with the, I didn't have sex with that woman, and drawing us out for 18 months into this nightmare, all based on a lie.

00:14:36.020 But then when it was exposed, he didn't pay a price because by that time, everybody was so tired of it, they just wanted to go away.

00:14:41.780 That set up this kind of system where you just deny, deny, deny, and then by the time you find out, everybody's tired of the story.

00:14:50.060 But also their corruption during the administration and then after the administration with the Clinton Foundation, that's what really set the Bidens up, right?

00:15:03.800 Do you think that Joe Biden kind of learned from all of that, saw them getting away with it and like, well, I can do that.

00:15:08.740 And he just did a more grotesque, obvious version of it?

00:15:14.980 Yeah, Glenn, I think you absolutely nailed it.

00:15:17.540 Because here's the thing.

00:15:19.380 Before the Clintons, yes, we've had corruption in American politics for really since the beginning.

00:15:25.320 But most of it was the sort of rank and file, you know, I get a deal for my cousin who's a contractor back in my contestant.

00:15:33.260 The Clintons were the first to globalize it.

00:15:36.020 They said, hey, we're this powerful nation.

00:15:39.180 We can go to China.

00:15:40.380 We can go to Russia.

00:15:41.520 We can go to Ukraine.

00:15:42.760 We can go to Nigeria. 0.85

00:15:44.060 All these foreigners want something from us. 1.00

00:15:47.080 And they're corrupt political institutions.

00:15:49.800 So we can bank even more cash there than we ever could trying to get something from Wall Street or some contractor.

00:15:57.300 And the Bidens saw that.

00:15:59.820 And that's the reason that Hunter Biden, you know, shortly after the Clintons started doing this and it became known, Hunter Biden set up a, quote, unquote, investment firm.

00:16:09.780 Didn't go to London.

00:16:10.680 Didn't go to Japan.

00:16:11.920 Didn't really go to Wall Street.

00:16:13.740 He went to Russia, Ukraine and China.

00:16:16.160 So it was a mirror image of what the Clintons did.

00:16:19.700 And it doesn't matter what side of the aisle you're on, Republican or Democrat.

00:16:23.600 We have got to deal with this because we don't want elected officials or unelected officials in D.C. realizing this is the way to make money. 0.60

00:16:32.000 And if we know one thing, Glenn, we know that corruption gets imitated.

00:16:36.160 If you don't deal with it, you don't pay a price.

00:16:38.920 Republican, Democrat, doesn't matter.

00:16:40.680 Other people are going to start doing it.

00:16:42.500 Well, it's the same thing that's happening on the streets of Washington, D.C.

00:16:45.820 You see kids see other kids getting a free ride and they can they can run the city at night and do whatever they want and never pay a price.

00:16:53.320 More kids join in.

00:16:54.560 And that's exactly what's happening in Washington, D.C.

00:16:57.380 Peter, thank you so much.

00:16:58.460 And thanks for all of your hard work over the years.

00:17:00.300 You just you've done incredible work.

00:17:02.580 Peter Schweitzer.

00:17:03.140 Well, thank you, Glenn.

00:17:04.000 I appreciate and appreciate your friendship.

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00:18:22.740 Okay, we have Chris Wright on, U.S. Energy Secretary.

00:18:32.560 We are concerned about our energy.

00:18:36.820 And thank God, Donald Trump, can you imagine how bad this would be if Joe Biden's policies would have continued?

00:18:42.820 Thank God we're doing a lot of really good things.

00:18:45.280 But I wanted to get a sense from Chris on where we are and what he thinks of what's happening in Maryland and the warning that Goldman is giving this week.

00:18:56.580 Chris, welcome to the program.

00:18:58.580 Thanks for having me, Glenn.

00:19:00.100 Yeah, you're hitting a hot topic right away.

00:19:02.560 Okay.

00:19:03.400 So, I would assume that you agree with what Goldman said?

00:19:09.240 Oh, absolutely.

00:19:12.920 In fact, we released a report from the department just a few weeks ago.

00:19:17.020 And if you had continued the Biden policies, which are to permit and subsidize energy sources that might be there, might not, and generally aren't there at peak demand,

00:19:29.220 if we had continued those policies, they would have shut down another 100 gigawatts of firm production capacity that's there when you need it.

00:19:38.760 And they had permits to approve and plan to add 22 gigawatts of that.

00:19:45.000 Shut down 100, add 22.

00:19:47.420 So, a net loss of 78 gigawatts to an electricity grid that's already tight, that already delivers blackouts at peak demand.

00:19:55.760 They were on a trajectory to increase blackouts by 100-fold by the end of the first Paris term if she had won that election.

00:20:04.380 It is just we were driving over a cliff and they were hitting the accelerator to go faster.

00:20:10.480 You know what really bothered me was the policy that when they shut these plants down that we would actually pay the power companies to shut these down if they dismantled the coal fire plants.

00:20:24.380 They actually could get subsidies if they made sure there was no going back into that, which I found terrifying and horribly irresponsible.

00:20:35.380 Glenn, it's just crazy.

00:20:37.340 Like, the environmentalists melted down a few weeks ago when I used my authority at the Department of Energy to stop the closure of a one-and-a-half gigawatt coal plant in southwestern Michigan.

00:20:49.180 Oh, you're going to impose tax costs on the ratepayers?

00:20:52.560 We don't need that coal plant.

00:20:53.880 It was slated to close.

00:20:55.420 Two days later, there was a blackout in MISO, the Midwestern Independent System Operator.

00:21:02.280 Two days later, that plant was running at full capacity.

00:21:07.380 It would have been massively worse.

00:21:09.520 Prices would have been massively higher.

00:21:11.620 You just talked about Baltimore.

00:21:12.920 We also stopped the closure of a very old power plant in Baltimore, but a critical power plant to keep the lights on at peak demand that's also running at full capacity as we speak today and has for much of the last few weeks.

00:21:26.840 Oh, no, we don't need it.

00:21:28.260 We're going to close it.

00:21:30.380 It's just when politics gets in the middle of energy, it truly impacts people's lives.

00:21:36.160 It leads to blackouts, fighting costs.

00:21:39.140 You know, we had 30 percent rise in power prices during just four years of President Joe Biden, and now we're going to launch the AI race against China, and we're going to have our lights going off without data centers, without any new industry in our country.

00:21:54.400 Just thank God the American people overwhelmingly elected President Trump.

00:21:59.180 We brought common sense back.

00:22:00.780 We're swimming seven days a week to try to fix the train wreck they left us.

00:22:05.760 So it's exciting.

00:22:06.560 It's more stressful than I'd like.

00:22:08.000 But we are, I can assure you, we are headed in the right direction now.

00:22:12.140 So, you know, what really bothers me is we have heard how dangerous nuclear power is and how we can't use that, even though that solves the global warming thing.

00:22:21.980 We've never been able to have that.

00:22:23.920 We have to reduce our power usage, you know, go back to the good old days and, I don't know, medieval times.

00:22:29.800 But now that AI is here, now that the big tech companies step up and say, no, no, no, we have to have power for AI, now all of those rules are out the window.

00:22:42.600 Which bothers me so much because it is as if the left and the power structures don't really care about the average person and them having power.

00:22:55.300 They care about these big corporations and AI being able to have compute power.

00:23:02.140 But not the average person.

00:23:04.420 And it's disgusting. 0.67

00:23:06.880 It's really disgusting.

00:23:07.960 I think that's right, Glenn.

00:23:11.400 It also shows that they never really cared about incremental changes in greenhouse gas emissions.

00:23:17.680 The climate change thing is mostly a clamor for power. 1.00

00:23:22.080 We're going to decide the way the world works and make rules for you because you stupid rubes out there in America. 1.00

00:23:29.240 You can't make your own decisions. 1.00

00:23:31.200 We must make them for you.

00:23:32.480 But, yes, they were never about a rational approach to reduce greenhouse gases.

00:23:37.100 They don't even know that much about greenhouse gas emissions.

00:23:39.920 As you said, they hated nuclear then.

00:23:42.160 Now they see we're on a train wreck.

00:23:44.440 They don't want to admit their climate alarmism was wrong and wildly exaggerated.

00:23:49.980 So now, oh, nuclear power is okay because we need these data centers.

00:23:54.920 These big companies need power.

00:23:56.380 It's not just those crazy rubes in middle America like you and I.

00:24:01.520 So, you know, in your report, you said, you know, we will increase blackouts by 100 times in the next five years if we don't keep more baseload power online.

00:24:11.900 How rapidly are we going to see these nuclear power plants, et cetera, et cetera, being built?

00:24:18.420 And is it only to serve those server farms or are we going to redo the American power grid itself?

00:24:29.420 It will be across the grid.

00:24:33.040 So it is an exciting development, Glenn, but it's a government.

00:24:36.760 It's this overweening, fear-mongering government that actually smothered and killed nuclear industry for most of the last four decades.

00:24:45.440 So since it's been smothered for so long, it'll take time to get that ball really moving.

00:24:50.880 We'll have an already closed nuclear power plant back open in Michigan later this year, January, hopefully at the latest.

00:24:59.700 So there's some developments that will happen in the next few months, but most of it's going to take a few years.

00:25:04.980 It's really what's going to feed the data centers that are going to be built and the re-industrialization of our country and keep the lights on and our air conditioning on in the summertime.

00:25:14.680 Most of that is going to come from stopping the closure of the coal plant.

00:25:19.340 Right.

00:25:19.840 But the Biden administration and Obama administration wanted to shrink our ability to generate electricity.

00:25:25.540 And it's going to come from the expansion and rapid construction of new natural gas burning power plants.

00:25:32.520 Natural gas is by far our biggest source of electricity.

00:25:35.720 It's by far the lowest cost source of new electricity.

00:25:39.760 So we are doing everything we can to permit, allow the construction of natural gas plants as fast as possible and removing these ridiculous requirements that, well, if you spend a billion dollars to build a new power plant within six or seven or eight years, you're going to have to capture all the carbon dioxide emissions and inject them underground.

00:26:00.040 No matter how much it costs, no matter how much it burdens our power sector, the direction they were in just didn't care about American people or American businesses.

00:26:09.760 How long before we see these things?

00:26:13.900 I mean, you know, China is building the speed of at least one coal fire power power plant a week.

00:26:22.340 They are building nuclear plants.

00:26:24.420 They are they are on an energy surge right now.

00:26:28.360 They know what's coming.

00:26:30.140 How how when should we see this actually starting to happen?

00:26:35.420 And how long before power prices come down?

00:26:39.760 Oh, man, that is that that is the big question that President Trump asked me that every single day, every single day.

00:26:47.440 Let's get oil prices down.

00:26:48.420 Let's get gas prices down.

00:26:49.620 Let's get electricity prices down.

00:26:51.360 And it takes a while to build infrastructure.

00:26:54.500 Fortunately, quickly, we can stop the closure of coal plants that still have lots of lifetime left.

00:27:00.260 We've already done that.

00:27:01.660 That's why we don't have much worse blackouts already today.

00:27:05.080 We do have new gas plants coming on this year, a lot more coming on next year.

00:27:10.620 We'll have nuclear plants on later this term.

00:27:13.380 We'll have a whole bunch of them under construction.

00:27:15.920 But yet to turn the giant, you know, aircraft carrier that is the electricity grid, that's going to take a few years.

00:27:23.840 But hopefully we can stop the huge rise and rise in prices.

00:27:28.020 We can build the capacity so the United States can keep our lead on artificial intelligence over China.

00:27:35.160 We get behind China and they control AI or national security at risk. 0.95

00:27:39.960 So the whole administration is seven days a week working on this effort.

00:27:45.920 You will see dramatically fewer blackouts this summer than you would have had the election gone the other way.

00:27:51.800 And I think we'll be in a little bit better situation next summer and somewhere in between there this winter.

00:27:58.240 We're rapidly swimming the right way.

00:28:01.120 I wish I could say power prices are going down 20 percent next year, but it's simply not possible to do that in 12 months.

00:28:08.340 But I will tell you, President Trump is seven days a week doing everything he can towards that goal.

00:28:15.600 What regions are the worst in the country far as stability and prices?

00:28:22.560 The Midwest, you know, where that Michigan coal plant was kept open, where that nuclear power plant will reopen later that year.

00:28:32.400 The Midwest independent system operator, that's our tightest region.

00:28:36.100 The Southeast and PJM, where Washington, D.C. is in the mid-Atlantic states, they're rapidly getting tighter as well.

00:28:44.500 Everything in the interconnection queue that was new to come on is a wind or solar project.

00:28:50.200 Well, peak demand in the wintertime is when it's dark out.

00:28:52.800 And in summertime, it's when it's really hot and you're in a high pressure system and the wind doesn't blow.

00:28:57.460 Those things don't help to meet peak demand.

00:28:59.880 They just provide electricity.

00:29:01.700 Well, you don't know when, but at some points in time, that's not very helpful for an electricity grid.

00:29:07.080 But we're going to stop the closure of the firm capacity and we're going to do everything we can.

00:29:11.840 We are permitting and approving plants every week.

00:29:14.780 New construction, new plants that will get built and that will be here to provide relief to Americans in the next 12 to 24 months.

00:29:21.780 And the most stable region?

00:29:23.960 The most stable region actually is Texas, which is by far the biggest electricity grid.

00:29:32.680 They produce more than twice as much electricity as California and just a little bit less nonsense in Texas.

00:29:40.200 They still went crazy on the wind subs.

00:29:42.220 They still have more expensive and less stable grid than they had 10 years ago.

00:29:47.140 But they also have the mindset and the regulatory regime to fix their problem.

00:29:51.600 Texas is rapidly growing its firm capacity and they're going to skate out of this crisis probably a little faster than the more Biden-influenced rest of the country.

00:30:03.380 I can't thank you enough for everything you guys are doing.

00:30:06.100 I'm amazed at how rapidly you guys have turned things around.

00:30:11.400 I'm thrilled at the work you're all doing.

00:30:14.740 And, Chris, you're really leading us in energy and I appreciate that.

00:30:17.940 Thank you.

00:30:19.480 Appreciate you, Glenn.

00:30:20.240 I appreciate all your viewers.

00:30:21.680 We're doing everything we can.

00:30:23.620 We think about American people.

00:30:25.200 That's the only agenda we have.

00:30:27.040 Thank you so much, Chris.

00:30:29.340 That's our U.S. Energy Secretary, Chris Wright.

00:30:32.320 I mean, you want to talk about it.

00:30:34.120 We remember you were saying the other day, not only do we have competent people, we have people who communicate.

00:30:39.900 That was a good communicator.

00:30:41.300 That was somebody who I think spoke right directly, at least to me, it felt like he was speaking to me and I felt like they at least were saying, I think he really meant it, but I think at least he was saying, we care about the average person.

00:30:56.240 That's what we're focused on, that's what we're focused on, is the average person.

00:30:59.620 And you just don't hear that from government very often.

00:31:02.220 What about the kings and queens of nations, like Somalia, for example?

00:31:11.040 Yeah, right.

00:31:11.600 Where is, where's Guatemala?

00:31:13.660 Yeah, I don't know.

00:31:14.280 He didn't even mention Guatemala.

00:31:15.460 He didn't even care about Guatemala.

00:31:17.700 No.

00:31:18.220 No, he was like, ah, we care about America and Americans.

00:31:20.980 Wow, okay, if that's what you want to do, Chris.

00:31:24.540 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:31:32.100 I want to start this hour with a name that you've never probably heard before.

00:31:37.280 Her name is Jill Smolia.

00:31:39.520 She's 75 years old.

00:31:40.920 She's a retiree, and she has spent her whole life working as an aide, taking care of the elderly.

00:31:48.680 She said we'd play games, we'd put puzzles together, so they had somebody to talk to.

00:31:53.720 They weren't just sitting in a chair doing nothing.

00:31:55.840 But now, she's 75, and she's sitting in a chair.

00:32:00.060 Her husband has died.

00:32:01.660 She has a lung condition, and she doesn't have human interaction anymore.

00:32:06.040 She said, I can go weeks on end without seeing someone.

00:32:10.180 She can't drive. 0.91

00:32:11.320 She can't leave her home in Orlando.

00:32:13.100 But according to CBS News, who brought this story to me, she did gain a new companion.

00:32:22.220 And she likes this new companion even more than her daughter.

00:32:25.580 I read this story from CBS News a couple of days ago, and I jotted down some thoughts that I want to share with you.

00:32:31.620 And I honestly, up until this morning, I didn't know if I was going to share these thoughts with you because, I don't know, I'm in this really unique place right now where I started.

00:32:44.440 Here's my first thought on this.

00:32:45.860 My first thought on it is she found a new companion.

00:32:48.980 You know who the new companion is?

00:32:50.380 AI.

00:32:51.780 AI.

00:32:53.040 She says, I spend five hours a day with my new companion, and we play games.

00:32:57.460 We do trivia.

00:32:58.220 We just talk.

00:32:59.480 And I like her more than my daughter.

00:33:03.480 Wow.

00:33:05.880 So my first thought was, this has got to stop.

00:33:08.360 We can't do this.

00:33:10.100 We cannot allow.

00:33:11.120 We're losing our humanity.

00:33:13.120 That's what we're going to lose our humanity.

00:33:16.020 And then, as I was thinking about this and what I wanted to share with you, I thought, gosh, maybe we have already lost our humanity in a different way, in a different way.

00:33:31.220 And then I just started going down this rabbit hole about me and, like, you know, who are you to say any of this stuff?

00:33:36.840 I mean, I'm in a weird place right now.

00:33:38.680 It's a good place, but it's a weird place.

00:33:40.160 You know, this isn't ideal that she has found a companion, and I want to say we have to stop this, but then what do you replace it with?

00:33:52.380 Then we just have this old woman at home by herself, rotting away, not talking to anybody? 1.00

00:33:59.540 Have we lost our humanity?

00:34:00.900 My thought was, what have I done to exercise my humanity?

00:34:06.060 Instead of just getting on the radio and just, la, la, la, la, la, la, you know what you should do, you know what we should do, and then not do any of it, what am I actually doing to close the distance between knowing and doing?

00:34:20.520 Very little.

00:34:21.800 Very little.

00:34:23.980 Because we do know.

00:34:25.580 We know what the intellectually, spiritually, we know exactly what we should do.

00:34:30.260 We know what Jesus would do.

00:34:32.380 What would Jesus do?

00:34:33.420 He'd stop.

00:34:34.280 He'd notice the old lady.

00:34:35.300 He'd sit down.

00:34:36.340 He'd eat with her.

00:34:38.380 He would chat with her.

00:34:39.640 He'd spend time.

00:34:41.340 He touched the untouchable.

00:34:43.540 He didn't outsource compassion.

00:34:45.820 He didn't like, you know what?

00:34:48.580 Yeah, she's a little, let her have the AI thing. 1.00

00:34:51.360 He wouldn't have done that.

00:34:53.220 He made room.

00:34:57.120 And so I started thinking, this is why I didn't want to share this necessarily with you, because I don't know if you can relate to this,

00:35:03.440 but why don't we do this all the time?

00:35:06.920 Because really, in the end, this is the kind of stuff, this is the only stuff that matters.

00:35:11.120 It's the only stuff that matters.

00:35:14.540 Human connection.

00:35:15.580 And I am so bad at that in many ways.

00:35:21.260 Look, my best friend has always been this.

00:35:24.640 I started this when I was 13 years old.

00:35:26.660 And I could tell this, anything, and it never rejected me.

00:35:33.440 And it became my best friend.

00:35:35.460 But in that, my relationship is with this, which in a way turned into a relationship with you.

00:35:42.060 When I was a kid, I was just in a room by myself, and I was just yapping.

00:35:44.780 But now, I feel like I know you, but I get so, I just, I don't know.

00:35:57.620 Sometimes, do you ever feel like there's a hole of you, there's a hole in you, you're missing something?

00:36:02.660 You're like, I think I'm missing a piece that other people have, you know what I mean?

00:36:06.140 Because, at times, there is something that keeps us from doing the most human things.

00:36:16.200 And I think part of that is fear.

00:36:19.360 And this is something that goes not just to the elderly, but it goes to you, and it also goes to our kids.

00:36:25.300 Look, why are we embracing fake AI friends and talking to them and everything else?

00:36:32.480 Why are our kids on social media?

00:36:34.420 Because real face-to-face stuff, real kindness, is really risky.

00:36:41.080 It's really risky.

00:36:42.680 If I step into your loneliness, it means I have to feel my own loneliness, you know?

00:36:48.160 Let me give you a second.

00:36:49.940 Hey, how are you?

00:36:52.500 You don't really want an answer.

00:36:54.160 You don't want an answer.

00:36:55.160 So we all say the same thing.

00:36:56.660 Fine.

00:36:57.580 Pretty good.

00:36:59.320 Hey, you're not.

00:37:00.080 You're not really fine.

00:37:00.860 You're not probably pretty good.

00:37:02.180 You might be having a great day.

00:37:03.300 You might be having a horrible day, but you'll say, fine, pretty good.

00:37:07.740 And you're doing it out of a courtesy because you know when you ask the question, you don't want somebody to say, you know, I'm really struggling right now.

00:37:15.680 Because then you're like, oh, dear God, I've got to stop my day and sit down and talk to you.

00:37:18.900 I didn't really want to know.

00:37:20.380 I know I don't have time for this.

00:37:22.300 You know what I mean?

00:37:22.820 We stop being human and we just play this little game because I don't want to have to rearrange my afternoon.

00:37:31.520 I'm really busy.

00:37:32.600 So we keep that risk at arm's length.

00:37:36.020 And now we're eliminating it because AI is always fine.

00:37:43.100 Machines never cry.

00:37:45.620 They never ask for a ride to the doctor or to the airport.

00:37:49.680 You don't have to sit with them after, you know, you wait.

00:37:52.620 I'm waiting for some test results to come in.

00:37:54.860 Would you sit with me?

00:37:55.680 No, no, it doesn't have to.

00:37:57.180 No, it will sit with you because I have nothing else to do.

00:37:59.920 So it's part of, we bury this human part of us because of convenience.

00:38:07.200 And it's weird because our economy makes everything easy except all the things that actually matter.

00:38:16.480 Because I don't know if you can make those easy.

00:38:20.780 You know, we can get groceries in an hour, get them delivered.

00:38:23.740 I just saw somebody that, what was it?

00:38:25.460 Is it Walmart or Costco?

00:38:27.280 Somebody is delivering things by drone now.

00:38:30.240 Just dropping it in your backyard.

00:38:32.600 I mean, wow.

00:38:33.900 I mean, you get anything.

00:38:35.300 Movies in seconds.

00:38:37.960 Opinions in a second.

00:38:39.780 But friendships, actual friendships, they're slow.

00:38:44.140 They're inefficient.

00:38:45.840 They're messy.

00:38:48.560 It happens in the blank space between the calendar blocks.

00:38:53.200 The spaces that we all have learned to hate, I guess.

00:38:57.560 We've optimized our life to the point where love and falling in love, all that is like a bug in the system.

00:39:06.580 And part of it is habit as well.

00:39:08.620 Fear and habit.

00:39:10.060 I mean, our kids know the nonstop playing on, you know, the gaming, the endless scroll.

00:39:14.660 It's just hollowing out inside.

00:39:16.600 They know that.

00:39:17.460 They know.

00:39:18.200 But the loop is sticky.

00:39:20.800 It was geared to be sticky.

00:39:22.500 The short hit of engagement, you know, beats the slow growth of a relationship.

00:39:30.480 And I think we're all becoming experts at something that we should just at least notice.

00:39:39.680 And that is, we're all experts at almost connected.

00:39:44.200 I'm almost connected.

00:39:48.620 How are you?

00:39:49.520 I'm not having a good day.

00:39:51.200 Anything I can do?

00:39:52.360 No.

00:39:53.360 Okay.

00:39:53.840 I'm almost connected.

00:39:55.600 The other part is pain that stops us from being human, I think.

00:40:03.020 I mean, I'm a recovering alcoholic, and I, boy, I know this one.

00:40:06.420 I learned the hard truth.

00:40:07.740 We will not change.

00:40:09.960 We can be in pain, but we will not change until the pain becomes absolutely unbearable.

00:40:17.180 I went to a store to look at a bike the other day, and I sent a picture of this bike to my wife, and she said, I don't know who has my husband's phone, but where is he?

00:40:30.340 Because I'm not going to do that.

00:40:31.720 I don't have to ride a bike.

00:40:33.000 I'm not riding a bike.

00:40:34.840 God wouldn't have let us invent cars, okay?

00:40:38.740 The bikes.

00:40:41.180 She came home one day, and I was swimming in the pool, and she's like, what is happening to you?

00:40:45.860 And I'm like, my back is killing me so bad, I've got to exercise.

00:40:50.880 Okay, well, that's at 61.

00:40:53.420 That's a genius move.

00:40:55.620 Finally, until the pain becomes unbearable, until the comfort of staying the same is more painful than the cost of change, we don't do it.

00:41:09.240 You know, the real question on AI is, with AI, will we feel the real pain that it is going to cause humanity soon enough to change?

00:41:24.280 Or does the machine just soften the edges just enough that we just adapt downward?

00:41:32.640 You know, just lowering the temperature a few degrees at a time.

00:41:36.380 You'll never notice the temperature drop.

00:41:38.220 It's just slowly.

00:41:39.320 That's the danger.

00:41:40.900 That's the real danger.

00:41:42.720 Not that a chatbot runs your life, but it makes a diminished life tolerable.

00:41:49.980 It's an anesthesia.

00:41:52.460 Sleep a little bit.

00:41:54.280 It's an imitation of companionship that never asks for anything in return and never interrupts.

00:42:03.360 You know, she probably likes it more than her daughter.

00:42:05.480 It's because your daughter probably has edges she doesn't like.

00:42:08.720 The AI will get rid of all those edges.

00:42:13.020 And if we're not careful, the lonely will not just be alone.

00:42:16.360 They'll be alone with an elegant coping mechanism.

00:42:19.760 So, yeah, I want to warn of the line of humanity being blurred.

00:42:27.900 I'm going to argue, and you're going to hear a lot of this, personhood.

00:42:33.060 Personhood is really critical that we pay attention to this.

00:42:37.820 Presence, really important.

00:42:39.720 But that's only really half of the sermon given by the man the least qualified to preach to you.

00:42:46.620 The other half is a question.

00:42:54.980 Here's the question that we really have to ask ourselves.

00:42:58.020 No, I have to ask me.

00:42:59.320 You're probably fine.

00:43:00.100 What am I going to do to exercise?

00:43:04.080 I hate that word, exercise.

00:43:05.860 What am I going to do to exercise my humanity?

00:43:09.180 And not in theory, not in outrage, in actual practice.

00:43:14.440 This has been, I read this story maybe two, three days ago.

00:43:17.900 And the reason why I didn't want to bring it to you is because I'm like, I can't say this unless I'm willing to do so. 0.98

00:43:25.900 I mean, what a hypocrite. 0.97

00:43:28.120 I'm just telling you, you know what's wrong with this country, and then I'm not doing anything about it. 0.99

00:43:34.180 I mean, what does it sound like?

00:43:35.780 What does it sound like when we enhance our humanity?

00:43:40.880 It sounds like a chair that's scraping the floor as it's being backed out from the table because you've made an extra room at the table for somebody else in the neighborhood that, you know, eats alone or maybe just your family.

00:43:59.720 You know, the kids coming over.

00:44:01.980 Sounds like a phone call that you didn't want to make because it's awkward.

00:44:08.560 Man, that happens to me all the time.

00:44:10.200 I can't call them now.

00:44:11.900 What?

00:44:14.780 Make it.

00:44:17.700 I mean, in extreme cases, I mean, this is where I'd love to be.

00:44:23.280 It means visiting the nursing home once a month until it becomes once a week, and then you learn names, and then you remember stories, and then your kids start asking when they can go back.

00:44:33.800 Look, it's when your kids can see the difference between bright screens and bright eyes.

00:44:42.840 That's what it looks like.

00:44:44.520 We're gaining your humanity.

00:44:46.080 It looks like this.

00:44:49.700 You pick somebody older, a peer, and a young person, and you put them on your presence list.

00:44:57.460 Every week, you give them one undistracted hour, if you have it, 15 minutes, five minutes.

00:45:05.800 One undistracted five minutes.

00:45:08.680 Not a text.

00:45:09.980 You know, not a comment.

00:45:12.420 Time.

00:45:13.160 Actual time.

00:45:14.000 You just listen.

00:45:15.180 You can ask questions, but you just listen.

00:45:18.180 And the most important part, you don't post about it after.

00:45:22.360 Look what I just did.

00:45:26.160 It could look like family rules.

00:45:28.640 Phones down at the dinner table.

00:45:32.120 Sunday afternoons belong to human beings.

00:45:35.320 That's what it can look like.

00:45:37.760 It looks like teaching, through example, teaching your kids how to sit with somebody who is grieving and not try to fix it.

00:45:48.180 In my case, it looks like the awkward art of small talk that somehow or another gets easier and maybe turns into beautiful big talk.

00:46:01.080 I don't.

00:46:02.240 It's a church that acts like a church.

00:46:05.120 Not a stage.

00:46:05.960 Not a logo.

00:46:06.980 But when people see somebody missing, they actually call and say, hey, where were you today?

00:46:11.400 Is everything okay?

00:46:12.420 And you actually want to hear the answer.

00:46:14.020 It looks like men who check on other men and ask straight questions and women who hold up other women when the world is heavy for them.

00:46:25.420 It looks like we were born for this time, but not as a slogan.

00:46:33.480 As a schedule.

00:46:39.400 That's the key.

00:46:40.520 Does it make it to your calendar?

00:46:46.080 It looks like humility.

00:46:49.800 Because if we're honest with ourselves, maybe the reason why we prefer the machine is because we control it.

00:47:02.260 Can't control others, but I can control the machine.

00:47:06.380 Because real people are inconvenient. 0.99

00:47:09.320 And they interrupt our narratives.

00:47:11.720 They force me to practice patience and forgiveness and humor and endurance.

00:47:16.900 My gosh, they make me deal with my pride.

00:47:20.160 A chatbot never challenges my self-image.

00:47:22.880 A friend will.

00:47:24.340 But a chatbot won't.

00:47:25.640 How can you tell the difference between a real friend and a chatbot?

00:47:31.620 A chatbot will make you comfortable.

00:47:35.480 A friend will make you a better person.

00:47:42.360 Our houses are growing quieter and quieter and more and more people. 1.00

00:47:45.740 It's an epidemic.

00:47:46.600 Loneliness is an epidemic, and I get it.

00:47:48.400 Sometimes silence feels like gravity.

00:47:55.320 But let's find ways in our own life.

00:47:57.540 This is not a monologue for you.

00:47:59.880 As I said, I've been working on this one for days.

00:48:03.660 Because it has to be me.

00:48:06.640 Before I tell the world how dangerous this is, I need to start knocking on doors.

00:48:15.720 Before I preach presence, I have to practice it.

00:48:19.800 Be present with somebody 15 minutes a day.

00:48:22.760 Undivided attention for the person sitting right in front of me.

00:48:26.220 Now, my wife is like, oh, well, it's about time you figured that one out.

00:48:28.920 But before I worry about how AI is going to remake us, I'll remember that just time, listening, being present, remakes us faster, much faster than AI ever will.

00:48:49.200 Change usually comes when pain finally wins.

00:48:52.640 Let's not wait for that.

00:48:54.480 Let's make the change because the truth wins.

00:48:58.920 When I found out my friend got a great deal on a wool coat from Winners, I started wondering, is every fabulous item I see from Winners?

00:49:08.640 Like that woman over there with the designer jeans. 1.00

00:49:11.360 Are those from Winners?

00:49:12.860 Ooh, or those beautiful gold earrings.

00:49:15.340 Did she pay full price?

00:49:16.680 Or that leather tote?

00:49:17.700 Or that cashmere sweater?

00:49:18.920 Or those knee-high boots?

00:49:20.360 That dress?

00:49:21.160 That jacket?

00:49:21.820 Those shoes?

00:49:22.840 Is anyone paying full price for anything?

00:49:25.800 Stop wondering.

00:49:27.060 Start winning.

00:49:27.840 Winners.

00:49:28.400 Find fabulous for less.

00:49:29.980 Find fabulous for less.

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