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00:00:30.000 On today's podcast, Chip Roy dives into the GOP's crypto legislation, which might create a backdoor for a central bank digital currency.

00:00:38.140 It's a really important conversation.

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00:03:32.960 Welcome to The Glenn Beck Program.

00:03:37.080 There's a lot going on today, and it's our job to keep you informed and help you understand what's happening in the world.

00:03:45.240 You know, the Federal Reserve, we've just been talking about that, what's really going on there, what's going on with cutting.

00:03:52.460 There were some great things that happened in the Senate yesterday.

00:03:55.080 We'll talk about that with one of the senators who passed it through and got it to the president's desk, rescissions, big, about $9 billion of rescissions, which were promised, Doge rescissions, which is very, very good.

00:04:11.020 And then there's something else that's happening in the Senate that is called the Genius Act.

00:04:17.140 The Genius Act seems really good in some ways.

00:04:22.360 It is, it's all about digital currency and stable coins.

00:04:32.280 Now, the problem is, is this going to lead us to a CBDC, which is a Federal Reserve digital currency?

00:04:44.900 And what's in the Genius Act, as far as what I read, what's in the Genius Act, what the law says, is not a problem.

00:04:53.820 I mean, I think there needs to be some things added to it, but the problem is what it normalizes, identity-linked money, federal-approved issuers, and a financial system that rewards obedience and flags dissent.

00:05:09.020 And once these pipes are built, the fear is, my fear is, at least, it doesn't take that much for a central bank digital currency to flow right through those pipes.

00:05:19.040 It's normalizing things, and in some ways, we have to have some rules on these things.

00:05:27.240 But I would really like to see that, you know, you have a very clear right to hold your money in your own wallet, offline and untouchable.

00:05:39.000 And a line in the sand in this that says, no CBDCs, not now, not ever.

00:05:45.680 And a guarantee that says, private money, earned and saved, remains private and unprogrammed.

00:05:53.800 That has to be in this bill.

00:05:57.260 Now, some people stood up and argued those very points.

00:06:03.480 Chip Roy, I think, is one of them.

00:06:04.940 And all of them were called to the White House yesterday, where the president said he made real progress with everybody.

00:06:10.820 Chip, I assume you were part of that calling to the White House.

00:06:16.080 Well, Glenn, thanks for having me on, and thank you for that great summary, because a lot of people don't understand what's happening,

00:06:21.360 because, as you point out, so many things were happening at once.

00:06:25.140 The Senate, as you noted, just passed their rescissions package, which we thought they were going to water down more than they did.

00:06:32.680 And we're blessed that they didn't, and that's great, $9 billion, including public broadcasting.

00:06:37.500 That's step one of 1,000 that we need to take on rescission.

00:06:40.260 Really good.

00:06:40.680 And that is at the president's desk now, right?

00:06:44.220 They made a slight change to it, so we'll have to come back to us.

00:06:48.160 Oh, jeez.

00:06:48.600 But we will take it up, pass it, and send it to the president.

00:06:52.120 Okay.

00:06:52.460 We agree.

00:06:53.120 We already passed it.

00:06:54.100 They watered it down a little bit, but it's close.

00:06:56.220 Right, and it was kind of on the AIDS thing, which I think is understandable why they, I mean, you have to read the bill to know what that was actually about,

00:07:06.480 but it's such an easy target, it's probably worth, you know, losing that $400 million.

00:07:12.580 Correct.

00:07:13.300 That's the right summary.

00:07:14.360 Now, to this point, we told the leadership over the weekend that while we appreciated what they were doing with Stablecoin and the Genius Act,

00:07:23.540 and while we would prefer to see us move our house bill, which is a market framework, a broader bill, that's sort of the second piece to this,

00:07:33.340 and then thirdly, that we wanted to see, as you point out, a complete and total ban on a central bank digital currency or anything like it.

00:07:42.220 You explained it better.

00:07:44.360 So we told the leadership, don't put this on the floor in a rule, right, which is how we operate in the House, without fixing this, making these amendments in order,

00:07:55.820 but unfortunately, they didn't listen to us, I say with all due respect.

00:08:00.320 And so some of us objected.

00:08:03.040 Now, to be clear, I was not in the meeting at the White House because I was on the House floor running speeches for the people that were affected by the floods in my district.

00:08:13.040 So I was, though, in constant contact with my friends who were at the White House, and I certainly let the White House know that a few of those good guys, like Scott Perry and others, had my proxy.

00:08:25.420 But here's another important point, because we're not going to talk about Epstein this morning, but I don't think, unless you want to.

00:08:30.720 No, I don't.

00:08:31.120 But on Monday night, there was a vote in the committee, in the rules committee.

00:08:36.320 I was not present.

00:08:37.280 I got in late because of flights, because of the floods, and then the rain's coming into D.C.

00:08:41.680 So I wasn't there.

00:08:42.980 So I didn't vote on this Epstein matter.

00:08:45.280 We can talk about that separately, but there's a lot of information flying around.

00:08:48.100 Yeah, that's fine.

00:08:48.680 Let's move on.

00:08:50.120 This is really important.

00:08:52.500 Yeah.

00:08:52.840 Bottom line is, here's the deal.

00:08:55.300 We need to do what needs to be done on crypto, okay?

00:08:58.940 We need to deal with stable coin.

00:09:00.340 We need to deal with the market framework.

00:09:02.000 But we believe a line in the sand is that we've got to have an emphatic statement from the government of the United States that the government is not going to be tracking your money to prevent you from being able to buy guns, to prevent you from being able to buy gasoline if they want to go to all EVs, to prevent you from being able to live your life freely and be able to monitor your transactions like the Chinese Communist Party.

00:09:28.300 We don't do that here.

00:09:29.400 This is a country that's supposed to embrace freedom.

00:09:32.160 That's the point.

00:09:33.200 And at the core of it is a currency that is stable.

00:09:36.660 Modern technology is raising different ways for us to achieve that.

00:09:41.220 And, you know, I wish we'd not gotten off the gold standard.

00:09:43.720 We did.

00:09:44.860 We've allowed the Fed to become unwieldy and print all manners of money, and that's part of the problem.

00:09:49.500 But here we are, and we've got the ability maybe through the markets to create something good to kind of reclaim autonomy with a stable currency that isn't being messed up by federal bureaucrats.

00:10:02.680 But it needs to be done right, and we do not want to, you know, inadvertently or purposely empower these bureaucrats by allowing them to track and use this.

00:10:12.120 That's the whole point.

00:10:12.980 So we drew a line in the sand that we need to achieve this.

00:10:16.140 As usual, we're given lots of excuses.

00:10:18.560 Well, we've got to get this one done first.

00:10:20.500 Trust us.

00:10:21.080 We'll do it later.

00:10:22.180 I've got a lot of faith in the Trump administration, so I give a lot.

00:10:25.820 But I don't trust the Senate, so we have to keep forcing the hand.

00:10:29.660 So because the president would say, look, I've already done an executive order on this, no CBDC, but an executive order is not the same as legislation.

00:10:38.780 I appreciate his executive order, but someday he's going to be gone, and we need it in the law.

00:10:46.680 And, you know, I look, I read the Genius Act and trying to understand it, and I think a lot of it, what they're asking for is good.

00:10:54.920 They're saying, look, you know, we want one for one.

00:10:57.120 You've got to be able to cash this in, you know, so we just don't have all these fake, you know, coins out there.

00:11:03.280 So it's tied one to one to the dollar.

00:11:05.460 You need to be able to know that this is not terrorist, et cetera, et cetera.

00:11:11.640 And so there's some things that the banks already have to do, but this is more than what the banks have to do, it seems.

00:11:20.360 And I don't mind that, you know, transactions, I do, actually, I do mind, but I can tolerate transactions over $10,000, you know, spiking up.

00:11:30.360 But I don't want to see my money being able to be tracked everywhere, and I'm not doing anything wrong with it.

00:11:37.720 I just know how it can be used if the federal government, and I don't want this pipeline ever to be built.

00:11:44.020 Right, and there are other aspects to the bill that we're looking at as well that's not just the central bank digital currency, but this notion of self-custody.

00:11:54.040 Right.

00:11:54.460 That self-custody means the ability to send crypto without the use of an intermediary.

00:11:58.520 Right, and Warren Davidson had an amendment and had language he wanted to improve the Genius Act.

00:12:05.060 This is stuff he was already working on in the Clarity Act in the House and trying to make sure that we're minding the store, if you will, through the process of creating these frameworks.

00:12:16.720 Look, I want all this to move forward, but if the crypto bros want to be able to do all this stuff, they need to back us up to defend freedom, and they should want to.

00:12:24.640 That's our point.

00:12:25.920 I mean, this is what the whole thing with crypto was all about, was freedom, and I want the freedom.

00:12:31.840 I mean, the custody clause is really important.

00:12:35.020 Is there any custody clause in it now?

00:12:38.380 There is language in there, and that's a result of all of our efforts, but it's not where it needs to be, so that's one of the things we're working on is trying to amend it to make it better, and then we're trying to get a guarantee on the central bank digital currency.

00:12:51.900 Those are our two top things.

00:12:53.240 There's a few other small things, but those are the two top things we're trying to do.

00:12:57.480 And what self-custody means, I make my money, I can pull it out of the bank, and I can put it in my wallet or a digital wallet, and it's mine.

00:13:07.680 And nobody else has access to it.

00:13:09.720 Nobody else can, and I can spend it the way I want to spend it because it's mine.

00:13:13.920 If you don't have the self-custody clause in there, it means it's not really yours, because if somebody in the government says, nah, you can't use that to buy an SUV.

00:13:26.740 You can't use that to buy fossil fuels.

00:13:30.100 We don't really, you know, inflation is getting so bad in this particular area, you're not essential in this area, so we're not going to let your money buy this.

00:13:40.260 Because once you have that system, you have total control.

00:13:45.700 Am I explaining that right, Chip?

00:13:48.340 You're explaining it better than I could, and I think your listeners just need to understand, because everything gets real complex.

00:13:54.260 When you have an administration that's doing so many great things, and I mean, truly, just extraordinary things in the face of so much resistance,

00:14:03.360 then you want to give them the benefit of the doubt, and we do, to your point about the executive order.

00:14:09.140 There are people in leadership who want to protect our freedom and advance this economy and build prosperity,

00:14:14.340 but we have to protect against the power of government that has been used to want to do freedom and undermine it,

00:14:20.460 whether Republicans or Democrats, we're in charge.

00:14:22.360 So, you're right, that's why we're fighting to improve the bill.

00:14:28.200 Wherever you are, stop moving, because we're losing you.

00:14:33.140 And I do want to ask you, in one minute, your thoughts on Epstein.

00:14:38.600 Now that we've gotten through the important stuff, your thoughts quickly on Epstein.

00:14:42.920 Look, the American people deserve to know more information than they're getting.

00:14:47.300 I also trust the Trump administration to work through this.

00:14:49.820 As a former federal prosecutor, what I would tell you is, the one thing we've got to be mindful of,

00:14:54.480 when you say, quote, release the files, remember that there are victims, okay?

00:14:59.020 And you've got to be careful about that.

00:15:01.180 Remember that there are also individuals who might have been in some book or some list that never got on a flight,

00:15:07.640 that never had anything to do with this creep, you know, or at least directly, or certainly didn't go to the island.

00:15:12.980 So, you've got to be careful about that.

00:15:14.420 I think what we need is the autopsy released, the full details that's surrounding the suicide,

00:15:20.440 and I think we need the flight logs, which are traditionally public.

00:15:24.260 I think we should start with that, get that out there, so people can understand those facts.

00:15:29.920 And I think then the Department of Justice owes us sort of an explanation for what are they doing,

00:15:36.040 in light of the prosecution of Epstein, in light of the prosecution of Ghislaine Maxwell,

00:15:41.240 what is it, are they protecting anyone, who are the people, who else should be prosecuted, and why aren't they being?

00:15:48.360 And I think those, I think that methodical approach is the way the Trump administration ought to approach it.

00:15:52.760 I think they owe us more information on that front.

00:15:55.080 I think we should push for that, but I don't think we should be blind, okay?

00:15:59.180 We've got to be careful, right?

00:16:00.400 Grand juries operate in secrecy for a reason.

00:16:03.160 Yes.

00:16:03.440 So, let's just, let's be smart about this.

00:16:05.440 We believe in freedom.

00:16:06.440 We believe in due process.

00:16:07.820 We don't believe in just throwing things to the wind.

00:16:09.740 Now, by the way, I'm not, you know, if you read Alan Dershowitz's op-ed in the journal this morning,

00:16:14.800 he walked through a bunch of this stuff, and he represented Epstein.

00:16:18.040 And there are judges who currently have a clampdown on being able to talk about some of the information.

00:16:23.520 Yes.

00:16:23.880 So, we need to work through that.

00:16:25.280 Like, there's a lot of variables in this that everybody needs to understand.

00:16:26.940 So, I think, Chip, that is totally reasonable.

00:16:29.440 And I think there wouldn't have been any blowback had that been the response.

00:16:33.600 But what the response was, you know, was, it's sitting on my desk.

00:16:38.620 Then it wasn't sitting on my desk because the FBI is holding it from me in FBI headquarters.

00:16:45.000 But I've got to go through everything because there's so many names and so much information there.

00:16:48.760 And we're still going over the videotapes, too.

00:16:50.920 There's nothing.

00:16:52.320 Wait, what?

00:16:53.800 What?

00:16:54.300 That just didn't make sense. 1.00

00:16:55.580 And then it was, shut up and sit down. 0.94

00:16:57.700 I think the American people want to believe. 0.62

00:17:01.360 I mean, I would rather have this be the truth, that there wasn't a big deal.

00:17:05.540 There were some people, but it wasn't as big as we thought.

00:17:08.080 I'd love to believe that.

00:17:09.600 But you need to take the American people through it because we have a lack of trust.

00:17:15.820 Big time.

00:17:16.560 And by the way, the best process for them to go through is they need to go take some scalps.

00:17:21.800 Right?

00:17:22.140 And they need to demonstrate that they're serious about it.

00:17:24.420 If they have a list of mobsters and a whole big old binder full of people affiliated with

00:17:29.700 a mob, but they go nail 10 hides to the wall and say, we're doing our job, then we're going

00:17:34.660 to give them the benefit of the doubt that they're not protecting somebody who shouldn't

00:17:37.360 be protected.

00:17:38.240 Yes.

00:17:38.620 But right now, we're getting a whole lot of whatever and a whole lot of shrugging.

00:17:43.560 And after the big presentation with the binder on the desk, we need more than just shrugging.

00:17:48.000 Good for you.

00:17:48.640 Chip, thank you very much.

00:17:49.680 Appreciate it.

00:17:50.220 God bless.

00:17:50.600 Uh, and, and anything we can do for anything we can do for your district, anything, you

00:17:56.080 know, mercury one is if I can just, if I can just say the, um, community foundation of

00:18:01.420 the hill country is a low overhead entity that is distributing cash directly to people

00:18:06.980 who need it.

00:18:07.580 It's not a big political bureaucracy.

00:18:09.780 It's a local entity.

00:18:11.280 So any dollars are going straight to firefighters, straight to people, straight to small businesses.

00:18:15.360 And you can find that on my Twitter, chiproy TX, C-H-I-P-R-O-Y-T-X. 1.00

00:18:20.360 I will, uh, I will direct, uh, mercury one to look at it.

00:18:23.660 And if we can help through them, we will absolutely help you.

00:18:26.640 Thank you.

00:18:27.500 God bless.

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00:19:50.040 Senator Eric Schmidt is with us.

00:19:51.920 He's from Missouri.

00:19:52.660 He was the AG in Missouri and one of the best in the country, now continuing to be one of

00:19:58.020 the best senators in the country.

00:20:00.100 Senator, how are you, sir?

00:20:02.180 I'm good, Glenn.

00:20:03.100 I got to get to see you in person.

00:20:05.020 I don't know.

00:20:05.420 It's been a while since I've been able to do a show with you in person.

00:20:09.060 We got to figure that out here soon.

00:20:10.680 And I also, I still think of that time.

00:20:14.320 Remember when you came, when I was AG, you came with a lot of the historical artifacts

00:20:19.380 that you collect.

00:20:20.440 And I still think of that Washington, you know, what Washington had in his pocket as a surveyor.

00:20:25.500 Yeah.

00:20:25.700 I got to touch that.

00:20:26.700 Yeah.

00:20:26.920 Yeah.

00:20:27.100 That compass.

00:20:27.800 And it's just, it was obviously, it means a lot like when you're making sure you're

00:20:33.360 always headed in the right direction.

00:20:34.760 That was, was very meaningful for me.

00:20:37.260 So anyway.

00:20:37.800 Thank you.

00:20:38.140 Well, I hope to see you soon.

00:20:39.220 So Eric, what happened last night?

00:20:43.020 Is this going to go?

00:20:44.580 It's going back to the house.

00:20:45.500 Is it going to pass?

00:20:46.980 What does it mean?

00:20:48.880 Well, we're not done yet.

00:20:50.380 So last night there were two procedural votes, one to pull the rescissions package out of

00:20:55.280 the, out of the committee, appropriations committee, and then the motion to proceed.

00:20:59.060 So we're now on the bill today.

00:21:01.060 So I'm the sponsor of the rescissions package, President Trump's package, $9 billion.

00:21:05.920 $1.1 billion is Corporation for Public Broadcasting.

00:21:09.060 That's NPR.

00:21:09.920 That's PBS.

00:21:11.440 And then also you've got all that crazy USAID stuff like Guatemalan sex changes and DEI 0.84

00:21:17.140 in Burma and voter ID in Haiti, all that nonsense. 0.58

00:21:20.380 It's all in this package.

00:21:21.420 So what happens today is we'll have a voterama.

00:21:24.480 The Democrats will offer a bunch of amendments.

00:21:26.600 We've got to beat that back.

00:21:27.600 We've got to hold the 50 votes that we had last night.

00:21:30.680 And J.D. Vance will probably have to come in to break the final tie.

00:21:33.580 So that'll happen today.

00:21:34.780 So we're not done yet.

00:21:35.800 We're not done yet.

00:21:36.720 But I think we're going to get there.

00:21:37.800 I think we'll get there.

00:21:39.260 I'm losing hope on Eric.

00:21:41.080 It's always like, it's always like, okay, we got it.

00:21:43.480 We got it.

00:21:43.860 We don't have it.

00:21:44.460 We don't have that.

00:21:45.240 No.

00:21:45.640 Hey, we're going to put them in jail. 1.00

00:21:46.800 They're going to jail.

00:21:47.680 No, they're not going to jail. 0.86

00:21:48.680 I think this is like, first of all, if we can't do this, everybody ought to hang their

00:21:56.520 head in shame.

00:21:58.360 But I think this is one of those steps of restoring a little bit of confidence that we can actually

00:22:04.460 find wasteful spending and do something about it.

00:22:06.780 And this is the worst of the worst. 0.92

00:22:08.100 And NPR, look, it's being run by someone who called President Trump a fascist and hate. 0.61

00:22:13.500 I mean, these are people who call Americans bigots every day over the airwaves.

00:22:18.600 And there's just no reason they should get federal dollars.

00:22:20.560 And we've talked about this for a long time as conservatives.

00:22:23.240 And now's the time to actually turn off the federal spigot.

00:22:26.880 I mean, I have to tell you, NPR and PBS, they don't need the money.

00:22:30.940 They don't need the money.

00:22:32.920 They can raise it just the way all the rest of us have to raise it.

00:22:36.780 Why they have to have all this money coming from my taxes when there is a private sector

00:22:45.780 and there is a way that you can do that.

00:22:47.420 You want to have that opinion.

00:22:48.420 You want to do it.

00:22:49.220 Good.

00:22:49.920 Then do that.

00:22:50.780 And you can do it, especially now, with just the same high quality without all of the government

00:22:57.400 expense and the waste that goes with it.

00:22:59.220 And I got to tell you, I don't know what kind of mansion Big Bird needs to live in, but

00:23:03.880 they've been selling plush toys for a very long time.

00:23:07.820 I think they can afford to produce their own show.

00:23:11.200 Well, you got to have high ceilings, Glenn.

00:23:13.440 And that's not cheap.

00:23:15.460 Right.

00:23:16.360 Right.

00:23:17.000 I mean, not every apartment can have Big Bird in it.

00:23:21.340 No.

00:23:22.160 Okay.

00:23:23.120 Exclusive neighborhoods, yeah.

00:23:24.560 But you're confident this is going to pass?

00:23:28.280 I am.

00:23:29.520 Yes.

00:23:30.100 But again, these things are closer than they should be.

00:23:32.560 It's 50 votes.

00:23:33.460 I mean, we lose three Republicans, so we got to hold everybody we had last night.

00:23:36.680 But I think that vote last night was an indicator of where we're really at.

00:23:40.760 And then we'll have this voterama today, which will be, you know, the Democrats will want 0.95

00:23:44.980 to save some stupid program, and then we'll have to vote it down, and then we'll get to 0.88

00:23:48.480 final passage hopefully tonight. 0.99

00:23:50.080 It will go to the House because it's got to be done by Friday.

00:23:52.160 There's a 45-day window for this rescissions package, and it's got to be done by Friday.

00:23:56.840 And we're on track.

00:23:57.900 Why does it have to be done by Friday?

00:23:59.220 Because under the statute enacted in the 70s, the president can basically, through a previously

00:24:08.120 appropriated fund, send a rescission's message to the Congress, and then Congress has 45

00:24:12.700 days to act on it.

00:24:13.780 That 45 days runs on Friday.

00:24:16.280 Has anybody in Congress or the Senate ever thought, you know what, why don't we just

00:24:20.820 get this one done the day it comes in?

00:24:22.500 Why don't we do that?

00:24:23.400 Why are we always at the, we've got 10 minutes left to pass this?

00:24:27.940 Why?

00:24:28.480 As a bill sponsor, I would have loved to.

00:24:30.700 I mean, honestly, so much oxygen was taken up through the big, beautiful bill in the reconciliation

00:24:35.360 package that this was the next thing.

00:24:37.820 And the good news is, these are very, you know, one of the few things we get to do with

00:24:41.600 51 votes, right?

00:24:42.780 With Republican votes.

00:24:44.220 And so these are things you got to do.

00:24:45.600 Yeah.

00:24:45.780 All right.

00:24:46.160 Okay.

00:24:46.460 Um, you have a, um, book coming out when it, when is the book out?

00:24:51.200 Cause I know I want to have you on when the book comes out.

00:24:54.300 Yeah, it's available for, for pre-order now it's August 19th.

00:24:57.900 It comes out.

00:24:58.480 It's the last line of defense, how to beat the left in court.

00:25:01.320 And, um, it is a lot of the stuff that you and I have talked about over the years, Glenn,

00:25:05.700 it just, it's the inside story.

00:25:08.420 And I don't think, and I'm a little biased, but I don't think a book's been written like

00:25:11.260 this before where he takes you kind of inside the legal battles.

00:25:14.500 Like you got to remember when I was aging in Missouri, we brought the vaccine mandate

00:25:18.580 case to the Supreme court and we won.

00:25:20.960 We sued 65 school districts in Missouri over mass mandates and we won.

00:25:25.080 We brought the Missouri versus Biden censorship lawsuit, right?

00:25:28.340 And uncovered this vast censorship enterprise before Elon Musk bought Twitter.

00:25:32.100 And we exposed all of that.

00:25:33.440 We took, we took Fauci's deposition.

00:25:35.660 There's a chapter about that.

00:25:37.000 We took Elvis Chan's deposition, the FBI agent that was in charge of the pre-bunking the

00:25:41.680 Hunter Biden laptop story.

00:25:42.760 We kind of go behind the scenes there.

00:25:44.140 We had the student loan debt scam lawsuit because Missouri had Mohila. 1.00

00:25:48.600 We took that to the Supreme court and we won.

00:25:50.580 So it's really lessons learned on how conservatives, we have a new playbook.

00:25:55.260 Now we got to be tough.

00:25:56.940 We got to go to court and we got to win.

00:25:58.820 And so those lessons from, you know, the Biden years and the COVID years can now play out in

00:26:03.140 the Trump administration to defend these policies.

00:26:05.340 There's a few guys in the States that were doing that.

00:26:08.160 Why is it we can't seem to get our own DOJ to fight like this?

00:26:13.380 I wish, I mean, I'm glad you're a Senator, but I wish you would have been the AG.

00:26:17.720 I mean, why can't, why can't we get our DOJ to start moving?

00:26:22.340 There's a lot of, listen, there's a lot of winning.

00:26:24.260 I will say this.

00:26:24.920 Actually, my solicitor general, John Sauer, is the solicitor general of the United States

00:26:30.780 now.

00:26:31.140 So John is in the Supreme court now, you know, taking those lessons in Missouri.

00:26:36.100 And, you know, there's some big wins that have happened in court on immigration so far.

00:26:40.560 I get it.

00:26:41.220 Listen, there is a big desire to make sure that that weaponization that we saw under the

00:26:48.820 Biden administration that never happens again, right?

00:26:51.000 You can't have political opponents being thrown in prison for the rest of their life.

00:26:55.900 But there's a lot of reckoning that still needs to happen.

00:26:57.820 There's a lot of things that happened that people need to be held to account for.

00:27:01.540 I mean, Jack Smith, what these guys were doing to jail a political opponent, there has to

00:27:06.520 be, I think, some repercussions for that.

00:27:09.020 And so I'm confident that we're going to see more of that.

00:27:11.920 But right now, the good news is on these big fights, whether it's on being able to fire

00:27:15.920 people in these government agencies or being able to enforce our immigration laws and

00:27:20.040 mass deportations, by and large, we're winning those fights.

00:27:24.540 And I think that's a good thing.

00:27:26.760 Okay.

00:27:28.420 I got to ask.

00:27:29.360 But Glenn, you know, people got to go and go to Amazon right now in the last line of

00:27:34.540 the fence.

00:27:35.060 And these are the lessons that have been learned.

00:27:37.500 And I think it's a playbook for people that come next, right?

00:27:42.280 So look at you, look at you learning how to sell books.

00:27:45.500 God bless you.

00:27:46.120 You know, I saw you talk about this Tapper thing.

00:27:48.180 And you're like, Tapper needs to come on here.

00:27:51.440 You're the master.

00:27:52.860 Yeah.

00:27:53.420 Okay.

00:27:55.920 I had one more question for you.

00:27:58.000 The Epstein thing.

00:28:01.740 Are you comfortable with what we've seen?

00:28:04.220 Um, I get, listen, I am, as a movement conservative, I certainly understand the frustration, right?

00:28:12.160 Because people feel like the government's lied to them at every turn.

00:28:14.720 I mean, part of what was going on in COVID was felt like every, you know, we were being

00:28:18.000 lied to every day and even go back to the JFK stuff, things have been hidden.

00:28:21.840 So I understand that it's just hard, um, for me as a prosecutor to, I don't know what they're

00:28:27.100 looking at.

00:28:27.700 You know what I mean?

00:28:28.340 I just don't know when you make a chart, I don't know what evidence is in front of them.

00:28:32.220 So to the extent, uh, information can be given, right.

00:28:36.080 Um, I'd love to see it for sure.

00:28:37.800 But, uh, I just don't know, you know, I just don't know what they're looking at.

00:28:41.060 So God's honest answer, uh, your, uh, book comes out on the 19th.

00:28:46.360 We'll have you on.

00:28:46.920 Maybe, maybe if you don't mind traveling, I'll, I'll have you up at the ranch.

00:28:50.040 Cause I'm going to be up at the ranch around the time that book comes out.

00:28:53.000 Um, the last line of defense, how to beat the, uh, left in court, the hardcover comes

00:28:58.460 out.

00:28:58.660 You can order it now.

00:28:59.760 Last line of defense.

00:29:01.620 Thank you so much.

00:29:02.960 Talk to you again.

00:29:03.820 All right, brother.

00:29:04.300 Take care.

00:29:04.720 Bye-bye.

00:29:05.700 Uh, Senator from, uh, from Missouri, uh, Eric Schmidt.

00:29:09.800 Okay.

00:29:10.080 Back in just a second.

00:29:11.880 You're streaming the best of the Glenn Beck program, and you can find full episodes wherever

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00:29:19.780 Steve Robinson.

00:29:20.940 He is a filmmaker and investigative journalist whose work focuses on his home state in Maine.

00:29:26.220 He is the editor in chief of the main wire.com host of the Robinson report, a newsletter and

00:29:32.060 podcast on Substack.

00:29:33.540 Uh, and he's also done a documentary high crimes, the Chinese mafia's takeover of rural America.

00:29:39.440 Uh, and it is a really important, uh, documentary that's with Tucker Carlson.

00:29:44.400 Is it not Steve?

00:29:45.960 Uh, yes, that is.

00:29:47.420 In fact, uh, it's at, uh, it's available at Tucker Carlson.com.

00:29:50.380 Um, and, uh, Tucker actually saw, uh, the importance of the, the work that we were doing and offered

00:29:56.000 to partner with us on the documentary after I taped an episode with him, but I have to

00:29:59.520 give kudos to you as well, because you were one of the first in the national media, uh,

00:30:03.240 to invite me on to talk about our, you know, ongoing investigative work on this topic.

00:30:07.100 I think it was more than a, more than a year ago.

00:30:09.040 Uh, you had me on to talk about that and, uh, things that things are trending maybe in

00:30:13.120 a better direction, I'll say, uh, but still not quite contained.

00:30:16.140 Well, that is good.

00:30:17.060 Um, what do you know about the Trump administration, you know, saying no more farm buying for China?

00:30:24.100 Well, I think that it's seriously important in states where there's much more, uh, military

00:30:30.100 properties where there are large vital bases because you're seeing huge amounts of farmland

00:30:34.680 purchased around these. But I think that the far, the focus on farmland doesn't quite capture

00:30:39.400 the full scope of the problem because here in Maine, what we see is residential houses are being

00:30:44.360 purchased and sometimes they're through LLCs. Sometimes they're through, um, uh, you know,

00:30:49.920 natural born citizens or naturalized citizens who just happen to have be of Asian descent

00:30:55.080 or Taiwanese descent or Malay descent. So I don't see very clearly how you can enforce these

00:31:02.080 kind of, uh, you know, capital controls and, uh, prohibitions on property buying by individuals

00:31:07.080 tied to the people's Republic of China, because what we've seen in Maine is they're very clever

00:31:12.020 about how they launder money, about how they move, uh, illicit marijuana around the United

00:31:17.040 States, uh, and how they acquire property and how they organize these businesses. Um, so I think

00:31:21.940 it's, it's not as simple as just saying, you know, we hereby declare that you can't do bad

00:31:26.180 things anymore with our farmland. You're going to have to, you know, you're going to have to

00:31:29.700 have a response that is as sophisticated as the criminal networks that are looking to exploit

00:31:34.440 American weakness. So, uh, I agree with you that, I mean, I think what he was thinking, 0.88

00:31:38.460 especially, uh, important is the, uh, the farmland all around our bases. I mean, you saw what happened

00:31:44.500 with Russia, you know, you put, uh, you have a barn, you have, you know, a thousand drones in it,

00:31:49.740 you unleash it. I mean, you take out that base quickly and, you know, that's really dangerous to

00:31:54.680 have them right up next to our bases. Um, explain for anybody who doesn't understand what we're

00:31:59.620 really talking about, how big the problem is in Maine, explain the problem. So in the, in, uh,

00:32:06.480 2023, the department of Homeland security had a memo that ended up getting leaked that said that

00:32:12.740 there were 270 residential properties in Maine that had been purchased by Chinese drug cartels.

00:32:18.460 Uh, they were being used to grow marijuana, uh, illegally. And that marijuana was being

00:32:23.920 trafficked out of the state, uh, to be sold at, uh, you know, various other locations on black and

00:32:29.300 gray markets. And these organizations were also involved in, uh, narcotics trafficking and human

00:32:34.440 trafficking. Um, since that time, I've gone out and attempted to document the full scope of the

00:32:40.060 problem. And I would say, you know, uh, earlier this year, if you'd asked me, I'd say, well, we're

00:32:44.680 probably looking at more like 400 or 500 properties. Uh, but since the publicity, uh, from

00:32:50.960 releasing our documentary, I've had so many conversations with, um, very well connected

00:32:55.680 people in the real estate industry, connected people in law enforcement. And I'd say we're

00:33:00.100 probably looking at just in Maine, 700 to a thousand resident residential commercial and

00:33:05.860 multifamily properties that have been purchased by Chinese criminal organizations, uh, for the

00:33:12.000 purposes of exploiting traffic, human labor to grow cannabis and sell to Americans. Uh, and the,

00:33:19.000 the scope of the problem I think is it's localized in Maine because of the property buying and where

00:33:25.400 the growing is occurring, but it's, it's national and even international because, uh, you know,

00:33:29.260 foreign countries are complaining about American weed grown illegally, uh, in many cases by Chinese 0.99

00:33:35.460 cartels being exported, uh, into their jurisdictions. Uh, but it's happening in every state, even

00:33:41.140 states, um, you know, Midwest states, good conservative states where they think, uh, you know, well,

00:33:45.620 we haven't legalized marijuana, so it's not a problem for us. Well, go look at your local tobacco

00:33:49.940 shop and go look at your local hemp shop. Are they selling THCA? Uh, they, they could be selling

00:33:55.500 some, uh, Chinese grown marijuana from Maine under false pretenses, but the buyer and the seller,

00:34:01.420 they know what's going on. It's just law enforcement and lawmakers who don't really know what's going

00:34:06.100 on. And the risk of that is the lack of regulation, but also the Chinese toxins that are being found on

00:34:12.760 these products in Northern California and Massachusetts and in Maine, they're, uh, crazy

00:34:17.860 toxins that were only identified when some California officials brought in the weapons of mass destruction

00:34:24.160 lab from the national guard to test these substances that they kept finding at Chinese pot grows.

00:34:29.540 What are they? Uh, you County, they are totally unregistered nerve agents that, uh, have no

00:34:37.100 approved agricultural use in the United States. In some cases they're even banned in China, but they're

00:34:43.260 importing them here under false pretenses and they use them like fumigants in their hoop houses or in 1.00

00:34:48.840 residential properties. So they're like mad scientist concoctions of these nerve agents that the indentured

00:34:55.540 servants who are using them really don't know what they are, except for it says, you know, bug poison

00:35:00.080 on the front and Chinese and how to use it. And they'll burn it. Uh, and the smoke fills the house

00:35:06.680 or the hoop house and just coats everything with this toxin. But the, the fact that they're unregistered

00:35:12.500 and they're made in China means that testing labs, the cannabis testing labs aren't equipped to

00:35:17.880 determine if weed has been contaminated with them. So you could have some Chinese grown weed that has been,

00:35:24.020 uh, exposed to these toxins and bring it to a lab and say, Hey, is this safe to smoke? Is this safe

00:35:29.100 to consume? And they'll give you a thumbs up. Yeah. We didn't detect any pesticide or fungicide on it.

00:35:33.640 You're good to go. Uh, and this product is being exported across the United States, uh, being sold

00:35:39.560 on black and gray markets, being sold at hemp shops, uh, tobacco shops. And we don't even know,

00:35:44.640 we haven't even begun to wrap our arms around the scope of the health crisis that could be caused.

00:35:49.840 And, you know, you're, I know that you're familiar with the book unrestricted warfare. Like if you

00:35:54.460 were trying to wage chemical warfare against the United States, how would it look any different

00:35:59.520 than convincing the American public to pay you to poison them?

00:36:06.180 So, so, you know, I've been saying for a while now that the, the marijuana, but, but mainly fentanyl,

00:36:15.760 this is the opium drug war in just in reverse, you know, England knew that, you know, they could, 0.60

00:36:24.120 uh, send opium in to China and drug the people and collapse them from the inside. And that's exactly 0.99

00:36:32.420 what they did. And China eventually just had to give, um, you know, because it, it was enslaving all 0.93

00:36:39.700 their people. That, that is exactly what they're doing to us right now. Cause they don't need the

00:36:44.260 money. They're not doing it for the money. And what is happening to the money is the money then

00:36:48.900 going to support other things here in America. Is it all being set, sent back to China? What's

00:36:54.620 happening? Well, I mean, that's the question that could, that keeps me up at night and that should

00:37:00.000 concern every American, uh, it's at the state level to the extent that this product is being sold at a

00:37:06.120 dispensary in Massachusetts or Maine. It's still an all cash business due to federal law. Yeah,

00:37:12.980 exactly. No bank is going to take a swipe of a credit card to buy, you know, your baggie of weed

00:37:17.580 at the dispensary, even if it's legal at the state level. So it's an all cash business. Well,

00:37:21.820 what a brilliant way to stockpile untraceable cash behind enemy lines. If you're a Chinese criminal 1.00

00:37:27.780 organization and what might you do with that cash? Uh, well, you know, if there's, uh, you know,

00:37:32.260 some of, some of your Iranian friends with shoulder fired rockets that you want to smuggle over the 1.00

00:37:37.080 border and take care of them, well, that cash might come in handy. Uh, last week we saw an indictment

00:37:42.300 handed down in the district of Massachusetts that, uh, there were seven Chinese nationals or people

00:37:47.180 with historical ties to China who were indicted and they, uh, were ringleaders of a one kind of

00:37:54.240 tiny corner of the Chinese drug situation in new England here. And they had Porsches, a $1.5 million

00:38:00.780 house, $75,000 Rolexes. One of these guys had $600,000 in rubber bands hidden in his Porsche. Um,

00:38:08.640 so they're not, they're not stockpiling this cash so that they can wear, you know, Louis Vuitton

00:38:13.180 necessarily, but, uh, there's a little bit of that happening, but more, I think we have to worry

00:38:18.060 about the other malign intentions of these actors, given that we know that they're affiliated with the

00:38:25.160 Chinese communist party. I mean, we can, we can prove this. Uh, Philip Lenzicki from the Daily Caller

00:38:29.520 News Foundation has expanded on some of the reporting that we've done at the main wire and connected an

00:38:35.280 individual who was arrested at a grow house in central Maine, outside of Bangor with a front

00:38:40.500 group linked to the New York consulate, the Chinese consulate in New York. And this guy has been out

00:38:45.820 on bail after being arrested. And he's back in China being quoted in state run media saying,

00:38:51.540 Hey, I'm going to go back to America and bring home some investment. This is gonna be really good

00:38:54.660 for you guys. And for some reason, this guy's allowed to travel back and forth to China. And he's

00:38:58.860 a known agent of the Chinese consulate in New York. And one of these benevolent associations,

00:39:03.580 which are just front groups for the CCP. So we know, we know that the CCP have their fingers

00:39:09.260 into the Chinese drug cartels that are ravaging New England right now. And we haven't developed 0.99

00:39:14.500 a response. We're beginning to, but we really haven't developed a sophisticated response.

00:39:19.320 Uh, who's on our side helping?

00:39:22.480 Yeah. Well, the Trump administration, I think is on our side. Uh, you know, this is one of the rare

00:39:26.920 issues where Senator Susan Collins and, uh, president Trump agree and support each other in the

00:39:33.100 response. Uh, Senator Collins, Senator, I know it's, it's gotta be a, it's gotta be a big threat

00:39:38.320 if it brings together to make a common cause. But I'll say Senator Collins has been on this,

00:39:44.080 uh, since even before I was, um, she's been paying attention to this and every, uh, intelligence

00:39:49.040 official, whether it's the Biden administration or the Trump administration, she asks them what

00:39:53.460 they're doing and what can be done, uh, to combat Chinese drug cartels in New England.

00:39:58.220 And, uh, I think she was very complimentary of the Trump justice department for moving forward

00:40:04.020 with an indictment in the district of Massachusetts, uh, last week. And I think if you have, uh,

00:40:09.440 Senator Collins and president Trump in agreement on something, then, uh, you know, this is a rare

00:40:15.460 area where maybe the federal government can move fast, but it's going to depend again on having

00:40:20.480 the political will to do it. We still don't have a U S attorney in Maine. Uh, we're going to need a U S

00:40:25.440 attorney to pick up, uh, some of the balls that were dropped under president Biden. Uh, and we have

00:40:31.020 a democratic governor here in Janet mills, who is more interested in going to war with president 1.00

00:40:36.700 Trump over boys and girls sports than in the Chinese drug cartels that have taken over the state.

00:40:42.560 She still has yet to utter a single word about this criminal conspiracy in her state. And we proved

00:40:49.980 that her brother, Paul mills was actually doing business with, uh, the Chinese cartels has,

00:40:56.460 has served as a real estate attorney to transfer a property that was an illicit marijuana grow to

00:41:02.360 the ownership of a Chinese national living in China. And no one will report on it in Maine. You've

00:41:08.100 already given more attention to that story just by having me on than anyone here in Maine.

00:41:11.880 It is, it's remarkable how well our enemies have surrounded us. Um, and they're inside of the

00:41:24.740 house now and most people are not paying attention. Uh, and quite honestly, you know, this is the one

00:41:31.420 place that I agree with, uh, president Trump. I want the answers to the Epstein files, but these things

00:41:38.300 are going to kill us a lot faster than that. That has to be solved. But, uh, things like this

00:41:44.560 must be solved today. Um, and you know, the Senate, you, you not having a, uh, uh, uh, U S attorney

00:41:53.660 in the state of Maine. Now that's because of the Senate, they're just, uh, they're just dragging their

00:41:59.440 feet on all of the attorneys. They've got to, uh, uh, pass, uh, and, uh, confirm all of the U S

00:42:08.140 attorneys, get them out there. Pam Bondi, we can scream all we want about Pam Bondi. She can't do 1.00

00:42:12.560 anything without a U S attorney. Yeah. Well, I'll say in Maine, we need a Trump needs to make a

00:42:17.300 nomination first. Uh, there hasn't even been a nomination. And so I, I think that there's some

00:42:22.660 wrangling going on, but I mean, I would agree, you know, on two fronts, one, the Senate needs to

00:42:26.900 start speeding along these nominations so that the Trump administration can walk and chew gum at the

00:42:32.200 same time. Uh, you know, I think that there, we, we certainly should have the power and the

00:42:36.000 intelligence to handle the Epstein disclosures. At the same time, we're fighting the infiltration

00:42:40.960 of Chinese drug cartels who are working as agents of the Chinese communist party, because they have

00:42:45.740 no, they have no good intentions whatsoever for the people of the United States. And, you know,

00:42:51.340 just to, to think about the callousness, uh, and, and just absolutely, you know, a vile,

00:42:56.860 amoral quality of these people, they're enslaving their own kind. Like they're, they're trafficking, 0.91

00:43:01.680 uh, poor peasants from China here through Mexico, taking their passports and locking them up at 0.99

00:43:08.900 grow houses in rural Maine until they've worked off their snakehead debt. Uh, you know, these are

00:43:14.300 people who are profiting from literal human slavery. Um, so if you think that there's any kind of, uh,

00:43:21.080 anti-American activity or anti-Western activity that is beyond, uh, consideration for them, you're wrong.

00:43:28.160 We're dealing with a, a, a real evil here, real evil.

The Glenn Beck Program - July 16, 2025

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