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In this episode of the Glenn Beck Program, Glenn talks to Supreme Court Justice U.S. District Court Justice J.J. Jackson about the First Amendment and its impact on our system of government. He also talks about a woman who just wants to do what she can to do right by kids.
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hey on today's podcast we start with uh judge jackson because i just she asked i'm just looking
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for help here on trying to understand the first amendment and gosh can't the government you know
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override the first i've never heard this from a supreme court justice before but hey stranger
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things have happened it's another horse on the highway uh but we we uh have the uh the full
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breakdown on that and i wanted to share some of my knowledge on the constitution with her also we
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talk a little bit about how uh being prepared is now mainstream according to the mainstream media
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now that now that liberals are doing it too going wow this doesn't seem like it's safe
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yeah it's gone mainstream we want to talk to you a little deeper on preparing other things uh as our
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history is starting to disappear also we have eric schmidt on he's the guy who uh filed the original
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um what was it uh missouri against biden uh or biden v uh missouri that was the case that the
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supreme court heard yesterday we wanted to get his take on it uh as well as an amazing story of a woman
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who just wants to do right by kids she is a social worker a social health worker uh she was at one of
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the big hospitals in seattle she's got 12 years of experience six at that hospital she raised her hand
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and said hey i don't think this gender affirming care is really good i've been looking into what
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they're saying over in europe and they're starting to pull away from it uh she became a pariah was fired
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you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program well i don't know if you heard justice
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jackson uh yesterday but was she she's in tune with our system of government um here she is yesterday
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where free speech is on trial the government is making the claim that their free speech is being
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limited because they want to uh tell social media what to do and their first amendment rights are being
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trampled on just so you know the government doesn't have first amendment rights the first amendment
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right goes to the people and it says that the government can't tell you what you can say and
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what you can't say here is justice uh brown uh jackson yesterday justice jackson so my biggest concern is
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that your view has the first amendment hamstringing the government in significant ways in the most
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important important time periods um i mean what would what would you have the government do i've
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heard you say a couple times that the government can post its own speech but in my hypothetical
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um you know kids this is not safe don't do it um is not going to get it done and so i guess
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some might say that the government actually has a duty to take steps to protect the citizens of this
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country and you seem to be suggesting that that duty cannot manifest itself in the government
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encouraging or even pressuring uh platforms to take down harmful information so can you help me
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because i'm really i'm really worried about that um because you've got the first amendment operating
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sure in an environment of threatening circumstances from the government's perspective and you're saying
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that the government can't interact okay with the source of those problems i'd love to help you with
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that i'd love to help you with that let me let me help you um and i appreciate your you're asking
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for help um don't usually experience that you know cry for help on understanding any of the amendments
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let alone the first one from a supreme court justice but i appreciate your willingness to uh say
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i really don't have a clue as to what i'm doing here um see we have a bill of rights that was
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built our country is built unlike any other country in the world and our bill of rights came from a
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uh a founding era where they had been really living under the thumb of a tyrant and so they knew
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no tyranny firsthand and it made them very very skittish about governments and what they could do
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because when governments speak that's one thing the government can speak and say hey this is bad you
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shouldn't do this um but when governments coerce people especially businesses well they've got an awful
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lot of power and that can turn into tyranny quickly now the the bill of rights was written uh and
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especially the first amendment was was written for those bad times you know you i know you're worried
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about well i mean freedom of speech is great unless things are you know troubled well okay but that's why
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why they wrote this down our uh documents are a negative charter of liberties so it means that the
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bill of rights apply to the citizens but not to the governments the government cannot do anything to
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violate these rights and if you know it changes when there's trouble or when the government feels there's
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trouble well then you don't really have the right do you and you really don't have any shackles
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on the presidency the administration or the government what you have actually is another constitution
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written in 1936 it was really great uh it because of the way i mean it was way advanced um all voting
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restrictions were taken off universal direct suffrage the right to work the right guaranteed by the by the
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previous constitution in addition in 1936 and by the way i'm not talking about germany okay 1936 the
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constitution recognized the collective and social economic rights including the right to work the
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right to rest the right to leisure the health protection care in old age and in sickness and
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the right to housing and education and cultural benefits it was really a cutting-edge constitution
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because everybody wants that stuff right you have a universal right to it and all of the government
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bodies had to help provide those things because you the citizen have a right and they went right direct
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election of all government bodies and uh they really reorganized in 36 and they they just they they
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streamlined the government you know so there wasn't a lot of red tape so article 122 in the um
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in the constitution said that women are accorded equal rights with men now this is 1936 think about how
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advanced this is women have equal rights with men in all spheres of economic state cultural social and
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political life in fact they were really the first one to make sure that there was you know kindergartens
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and a universal right to kindergarten and maternity leave and pre-maternity and protection of the mom and
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her interest it was really really really good in article 122 and 123 that was the equal rights for
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all citizens uh it was it was equity for everybody irrespective of their nationality or their race
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in all spheres of life and uh and they wanted to make sure that there was racial inclusiveness
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uh and no hatred or contempt or restrictions of rights and privileges on account of nationality or race
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and uh if you did any of these hate crimes it was punishable by law so this is now the the soviet
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constitution um of 1936 and it was the longest running constitution of the soviet union and it was great
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article 124 guaranteed freedom of religion including the separation of church and state and school from
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church uh and 124 it ensured all citizens the freedom of conscience freedom of religious worship
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and freedom of any anti-religious propaganda recognized for all citizens which was nice and in 124
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stalin in the face of real stiff opposition there eventually said you know what maybe we should
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talk to the russian orthodox church maybe we should allow them you know to exist and he did uh kind of
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but uh it was all within the constitution because see this constitution is a is a constitution of positive
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liberties unlike ours negative liberties telling the government what it cannot do theirs is a positive
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liberty all the things the government must do and article 125 remember this is 1936 uh article 125 of
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the constitution guaranteed freedom of speech in the press and freedom of assembly then they you know
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they said you know look the the the communist party really needs to come together and we can have diversity
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in the communist party but it's only one party in the free elections so you could you could you could do
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that now this constitution was written in 1936 um and it was thoroughly democratic thoroughly democratic um
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i mean yeah once the writers of the constitution and and the organizers uh you know finished it they were
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imprisoned and or executed right after uh because they were counter-revolutionaries and you know you
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got to get rid of those people there were some people that were just too radical uh and they were the
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writers of the constitution but you know that's an old dusty document you know sure it was written last week
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but they didn't foresee everything so um uh they started the great uh the uh the great terror uh is what
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it's called i don't know what happened during the great terror but it coincided with the signing of the new
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constitution in the so but everybody was protected you could say whatever you want uh you know you could
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look at the great terror or the subcategory of the great purge uh and say hey you know what there's
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they're stepping on those rights there of those people but they're people that the state really
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doesn't you know the state really needs some authority to be sure you have a right to speak um
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you know you have the enjoyment of rights and freedoms of citizens
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citizens but i'm just quoting the constitution not to the detriment of the interests of society or the
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state so if you saw something you know like kajundi whatever name jackson brown jackson whatever her name
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is i love her and she is right when the state has an interest because the state knows best then we have to
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you know restrain people from saying things so let me just let me just quote article 39
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enjoyment of the rights and freedoms of citizens must not be to the detriment of the interests of
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society or the state amen that's what she's saying i mean they've been saying this since 1936 in the
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soviet union article 59 obliged citizens to obey all the laws and comply with the standards of the
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socialist society as determined by the party so if the party said you know let's just say
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we can mutilate your children you can speak out about that uh i mean you're gonna have to go to jail
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for it because it'll be a hate crime in fact hate crimes were even mentioned specifically in that night
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they were so far ahead they were just they were just way way way way way way way way ahead um
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because they were already on those hate crimes you know you don't have a you don't have a right to
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say you know you for instance here it is quote uh the constitution prohibits incitement of hatred
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or hostility or hostility on any religious ground so you couldn't just you know say to the bible the bible
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says this if it incited hatred so and the constitution you know gave you you have a freedom of conscience
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you can do that you can profess or not profess any religion uh and um and you can conduct religious worship
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or atheistic propaganda as long and i'm quoting as long as it's in the interest of the state
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you see because they know better they know better so katanji i just i'm trying to help you because you
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asked for help yesterday um which i find just so refreshing that a talk show host that's a
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a recovering alcoholic and former dj who is just completely self-educated
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you know knows this stuff better than a supreme court justice
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but i think that's great that you you know you're humble enough to say i don't know my ass from my elbow
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um i think that's great i really i really do i really do so let's just remember
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the government you know we have inalienable rights what do that what does that mean i don't know
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something about aliens from space maybe katanji no means no man can change those rights alter those
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rights or take away that's what inalienable means um and in the soviet union they didn't have that
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okay they didn't have inalienable rights you as a citizen can and i'm quoting enjoy rights when
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the exercise of these rights do not interfere with the interest of the state and the communist party
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of the soviet union they alone have the power and authority to determine policies for the government
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now back to the podcast this is the best of the glenbeck program this is the glenbeck program
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yesterday i witnessed something i didn't think i would ever witness in america a supreme court justice
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trying to i guess make the case that the government can override the first amendment you know i mean if
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it's a situation where kids are jumping out windows um wow i i've never heard that before
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but there was a case that was heard yesterday murphy versus missouri originally filed as missouri
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versus biden and it concerns whether the federal government officials had violated the first amendment
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by coercing or significantly encouraging social media companies to remove or demote particular content
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from their platforms this is on various topics but really covet 19 was the the big one uh and
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we have the guy who filed the original suit when he was uh ag of missouri he's now the senator from
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missouri eric schmidt in washington hello eric how are you how are you uh what did you think about
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what happened yesterday how do you think it went um well i think it's always difficult to gauge based
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on the questions asked by the justices i think that's a it's a it's a fair question and again and
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a question that's often asked it's just it's difficult to to really gauge where individual
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justices are at based on some of the questions because most of what they'll be considering as they move
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towards the decision probably sometime in june is there are the briefs and the record that had been submitted
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so sometimes those questions are meant to sort of fill in some gaps uh the question you're referring to
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i think was um was you know is isn't the first amendment a hindrance to the government in this instance
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or in the hypothetical and of course it is it's it that is like that's the point is that the first amendment is actually
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was was it is was put there by our founders because they knew exactly what the government might want
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to do and if the idea was protecting individual liberty and your ability to speak your mind and be
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a dissenter uh that ought to be a hindrance to the government so anyway but so that that question was
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somewhat revealing but i still feel good about it here's the the best news of all of this glenn is
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is early on in the litigation when we filed the case in may of 2022 we were able to get discovery
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before the preliminary injunction hearing which we won which was essentially affirmed by the fifth
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circuit court of appeals and now is in front of the court why is that important because the record is
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filled now with emails and text messages about how the federal government we should be partners with
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facebook and they want answers exclamation point they had regular meetings they had censorship
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meetings they had constant pestering they suggested new rules tell us what you're going to do literally
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20 plus thousand pages of this kind of evidence of how the government was coercing these social media
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companies uh to do their will and i think that hopefully will carry the day so the the problem here is is that
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coercion you don't have a partnership with the government um you might think you do but in the end the
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government wins because the government can do all kinds of things to you and you have nobody run to
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for help um and the government cannot be the final arbiter of truth it cannot be um our founders were
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really clear on this and then again later they hashed it out because of the sedition act and you know they
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made it very very clear that if the government is the one that decides what the truth is and is the
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final arbiter of truth truth will be lost and i think if the if the government hadn't been intended
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taken on the role of being the arbiter of truth and silencing people about the vaccines or whatever
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they just would have let it go science i don't think would have been discredited the way it was
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i don't think the vaccine you know anti-vaccine movement would have grown as much as it has they
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caused the problems by trying to shut people down people don't like that that's right and and i think
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that you know people often say power corrupts probably more appropriately uh describe power reveals
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and you had a situation during covid where uh it was a emergency or perceived emergency and people
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used it to aggregate accumulate and exercise power in ways that i don't think many of us really believed
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could happen in the united states of america i think it's important to put us back in that time
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and regardless of how the government feels about what you should be doing to your point individuals get
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to make these decisions that and that is what is was so dangerous about what was happening was you had
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the this wasn't just a one-off from some actor or two this was a leviathan of government agencies
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working in concert to quell dissent to shut down dissent whether it's on the lab leak theory the
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hunter biden laptop story origins of covid the efficacy of masks all of that the full force of the
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government was at play to silence people and if we believe in this country which we do i do you do
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that fundamental human expression is a right given to us by god and government's role is really there
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to protect that right to secure those rights certainly not to infringe so let me play that's
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why this case is so important let me let me play devil's advocate yes but we're at war there is a let
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me use a real one that i know they have already um war gamed and i think is the international uh bank
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or the world bank has come out with their recommendations if currencies begin to collapse
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if the world starts to go into a real slide that people who disagree with the actions of the central banks
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of the world must be silenced because even if they're right they will harm all of the safety
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uh mechanisms that the governments are trying to put into place so they'll do more harm uh even if
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they're right that's that's their point of view yeah and so that's gonna happen and and the government
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will will use any event to silence people and a lot of people like they did in covet will say
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well we have to protect everything how do you answer that yeah well you sort of heard yesterday
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this similar vein when it was referred to by the government's lawyer as a once in a lifetime event
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okay first of all your point this is a playbook in many ways because what you'll have now we're already
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hearing the language change on climate issues it went from you know global cooling to global warming
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to climate change now it's a climate emergency right so the language has shifted even on that particular
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issue and the example that you give the constitution what's important remember is the constitution
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doesn't have a pandemic exception it doesn't have a world bank emergency exception the constitution
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was created really for those most difficult times when government actors really really want to
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do something and they really really think they're right the point is that we get to make those
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decisions it's it's like what the vaccine mandate i actually had the case the ocean you know those
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cases that went to the supreme court on the vaccine mandate and we wanted the supreme court
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and my contention all along was on whether it was the vaccine or masks give everybody the information
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and let them make their own decisions but you saw the left really gravitate towards no no we don't really
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care about reasonable debate we don't care about anything that just you know take the shot put the
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damn mask on that was their point of view that's not going to change right when we have the next thing
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and so that's this why this case is so important because if the government actually thinks that they can
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pressure social media companies do their bidding they don't get to get around the first amendment by
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contracting that out to private parties and glenn one last point on this the reason why the coercion piece
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is so fits here in particular is these companies live and die by their section um 230 protections
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they're they're immune from lawsuits so if you don't think that was being wielded here as a threat or
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antitrust investigations or all those sorts of things that the government we've seen this administration
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do to catholics or to who pick pick the opponent they who am ever organized and weaponized government
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that was always at play here and so i think that whether it's you know the the um you know it's
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that standard or it's the you know sort of the the cooperative stand whatever you want to use the government
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was very intent here on silencing speech and they don't get to do it in around the constitution by
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by outsourcing that to big tech and they also endorsed speech during the same period by saying you can't protest
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outside about covid you can protest for blm uh and so they were endorsing speech as well and setting a
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precedence there um that that's the problem with the with the government having the lever of what speech
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is approved and what isn't you don't have a real free democracy or in our case a republic
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um if they can can do that and everyone knows if you're thinking about going and uh you know praying
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at a abortion clinic you now know the government has been weaponized against you if you're going to go
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into a store and you're going to just go steal all the makeup from a makeup counter you know you have
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a better chance of getting away with it because the government has laid off that kind of stuff
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so they're they're directing our society just by leaning one way or another and if you don't
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think that the i mean you cannot have i've never had calls from the fcc i've done this job for almost
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50 years i've never had a call from the fcc i know when our license is up for renewal and everybody at the
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radio station would get nervous about hey what did you say because we don't want any trouble we don't
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want any letters going to the fcc they know the power of that but they the fcc at least in my case
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has never exercised itself like that they've tried they've attempted but it never stood these guys
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were calling these social media companies daily and saying you know you got a nice company there
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i'd hate to have something happen to it that's the mob yep no that's right and i think what what
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is it's interesting you brought up the whole the protests uh in the summer of of um you know you
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saw that in 2020 and then covid um and then really when biden came in in 2021 he did all the things
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he said he wasn't he said he wasn't going to be a mandate um you know all these sorts of things
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uh that came in i think it just it like i said it just revealed and i think that the the modern
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democrat party which the energy and the money and everything is now squarely in on on the left here
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you look at what's happened with the border these are these are not things that that certainly even
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barack obama terrible of a president he was wasn't really advocating for an open borders policy that's
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where we're at now liberals i'm 48 i remember when liberals actually cared about free speech
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not anymore and so we've gotten to a place now where they have crossed the rubicon in in in really
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it's not about process or principles it is about results and power and control and i think
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that more people wake up to that you'll realize how important it is to stand up and say no you
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know i dissent i object i'm the guy in the the norman rockwell you know classic uh portrait where
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he stands up and you know and that's what we need more of in this country and um and so that always
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motivated me certainly didn't the filing of this lawsuit i only have 30 seconds for an answer here but
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is is this the closed door hopefully on any of the government you know speech control efforts you
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know the nina jankiewicz stuff yeah i mean that certainly the disinformation governance board i
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think but their their mistake there was they were probably pretty too open about it what we have to
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be on guard is yes we're loosely tied uh and it's not named something like the ministry of truth right
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so i think we have to be on guard right they're still not acting in concert yeah okay all right
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thank you so much this uh senator um eric schmidt from the great state of missouri who filed the original
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uh lawsuit as ag in missouri against the uh against the government and the government responded by saying
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they're violating my first amendment rights at the white house you don't have them
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tamara pitsky is uh with us now tamara how are you fine thank you so much for having me
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sure so can i ask you you're from i'm from seattle but i i moved away long before the madness set in
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yeah um the uh uh you went to the university of washington i'm i'm guessing we don't necessarily
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agree on a lot of policy things you seem like a really nice person who has just seen some injustice
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here and i guess kind of reluctantly stood up yeah i mean um i've not considered myself political in
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any sense and somehow i just kind of ended up in this position you know um and it's been incredibly
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difficult i just can't believe how so it but but what you stood up for it's it's not political is it
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well i didn't think so but i'm learning it in a lot of people's minds that it is
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you know i thought i was just trying to protect kids and now i'm realizing that people
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are so quick to say you know things about me that are political or that i'm transphobic or something
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yeah yeah um so so tell me what happened at multi-care sure so there was a mandated
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gender-affirming care training in september and when i found that out i started doing some research
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i was like i don't know that i feel this i think this might not be you know this is bad news and so i
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started doing some research went to the meeting asked some questions like hey why are we mandating
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this of our clinicians if countries in europe are pulling back and saying you know what i don't
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think that is the right way to handle gender distressed youth um and they were horrible to
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me they said leave politics out of this which is the first time i thought i was like what does that
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even mean like i had no idea that people thought this was a political issue um people said i was doing
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informed clients that i was transphobic um i started after that meeting i talked with my boss
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the leader of the meeting um and just tried to like air my concerns with them and see if maybe
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somebody would listen to me at no point did anyone ever say okay yeah let me see that article that
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you're reading let me look at that for you so that we can have a conversation they were just like
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completely shut me down um and then when i presented specific client issues um i was reported
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to risk management and i thought okay finally risk management and i can have a conversation we can look
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through these clients charts figure out like no this is not it's not good for this child to start
00:35:16.180
testosterone they've got so much else going on um and rather than have that conversation they
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decided that i was the risk not not the testosterone that i was the risk and that i they took my client
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for me so this had to seem like a movie that you were trapped in it was crazy making like i was like
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am i am i losing my mind yeah yeah yeah um so what were the things that you were pointing out i mean
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europe is usually ahead of us medically and much more um i don't mean this in a uh in a political way but
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much more progressive or or liberal on on medicines and uh them pulling out has especially when we're
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talking about sweden and you know norway when those countries start to pull out of something
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they're usually so progressive that it should make a huge statement it that didn't play a role in
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they didn't even talk about it with you no they didn't even address it at all and so that's how
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when i started to realize like okay we aren't actually protecting the kids here we're protecting
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an ideology like i'm trying to advocate for the kids and the other side here is like no i won't hear
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any of that we're just gonna go full steam ahead with this like ideology that we're holding holding to
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so rigidly you know um i'm not an expert in all the different areas of um this field of study but i know
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enough to know that 80 percent of gender distressed youth typically outgrow it by the time they're
00:36:50.100
adults but rather than letting them like progress through that and just kind of figure out who they
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are as any adolescent does we're medicalizing them if they come in at 13 and say i want to be a man
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then we're like okay sounds great like there's no there's nothing that we do to like determine are
00:37:09.300
you going to be of that 20 who's going to persist in this as an adult we don't have any way to
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determine that and so we're just letting these young people diagnose themselves and decide their
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own medical treatment and they just don't have the mental capacity to consent to that at 13 or even 20.
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what does this what does this lead to when when science becomes politicized and there's no longer
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reason reason um you know because you know you can disagree with with science but when it becomes
00:37:46.020
the science when it becomes the authority um and nothing can nothing can change its mind it's no longer
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science is it i don't think so i think people are just um like i said they're defending an ideology at this
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point and when i try to present studies and other um you know evidence to people like they just don't
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hear it they don't hear it at all so um yeah i don't know it's just so the other the other people
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of other people in your profession do they just not see it are they not as brave as you to come up and
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step forward what's happened to the profession i really think that it's like a cult mentality for
00:38:32.900
a lot of people they think that they're doing good i don't think everybody thinks that i think
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the higher up you go the more people are aware that this is a corrupted situation that we're in
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but i think a lot of my colleagues really think they're doing good and so then they're quick to
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villainize me like in that meeting there was 122 people and after that meeting four of them reached
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out to me and said thank you for saying something i'm too scared to but everyone else as far as i know
00:38:58.580
had just kind of like decided that i was the enemy you know
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so you then went to work someplace else and you were let go after two or three weeks
00:39:10.980
yep just mysteriously they're like we don't think you're a good fit for this position and
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so now i'm a single mom of three trying to live off of a go fund me or a give send go
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and can't get a job the state's coming after my license like it's just been craziness
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yeah i found out on friday they said because i wasn't being gender affirming so i didn't refer
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to the clients in the article by their chosen pronoun and suggested that gender dysphoria is a mental
00:39:43.300
illness have you thought about moving oh yes i've thought about moving if i could scoop up every
00:39:51.940
single person that i love and leave the state i would so quickly yeah it's not that easy you know
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i just i don't know it's madness to be like i know it is madness yeah to be like hey i'm worried
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that we're hurting kids and for them to not even for them to be like i don't think you should be a
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therapist like you're hateful and transphobic like that blows my mind like i'm just trying to make
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sure that we're not hurting kids like i don't understand how this is suddenly being turned on me
00:40:20.660
where i'm the enemy it's just i guess i'm just so naive in that way like i just didn't see that coming
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how's your uh family handling it fortunately my kids are young they have no idea that anything
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shifted um and i'm very grateful for that i will tell you that um you know when i started doing
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what i do now because i was never really political either and uh when i started doing this and
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especially when i went to fox from cnn i i said to my children at the time i said i'm going to be made
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into just a monster and the only thing that matters to me is that my family my kids know who i am
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and if you ever hear of something you bring it to me and we can talk about it and i'll admit my
00:41:08.740
mistakes and um and my kids uh are my biggest defenders not necessarily of everything i say
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but they know who i am and that's all that matters your kids are going to be very proud of you in the
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end you're doing the right thing thank you thank you that's my hope and it helps to hear that was your
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experience with your family as well yeah so you're working with or they're they're supporting you
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the lgbt courage coalition which i i love that i've never heard of these guys i think i love these
00:41:43.220
people um this is so great yeah um so if i if i understand what they do this is you know gay
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lesbian bisexual transgender and they are they're living their life but they're saying this is bad
00:42:01.460
medicine for kids and they're standing up for kids against their own community you want to talk about
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pariahs they've got to be massive pariahs in their community yeah i don't know what i i couldn't have
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navigated all of this without them they have been incredible and i think it's so important for other
00:42:19.700
people to that have concerns about stuff to know that this organization is there like they can help
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support you through it you know it's so important that that that they that it was founded
00:42:29.860
i want to do an interview with them i i didn't know they even existed and man i'm sure they would
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love this yeah they are they are amazing um and so they're they're raising money uh for you and you
00:42:45.860
are um they have a goal of eighty thousand dollars which is um you know uh money that you can live on
00:42:53.700
until you can find a job um and you go to give send go dot com slash whistleblower tamra t-a-m-a-r-a
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tamra uh give send go dot com slash whistleblower tamra and uh and give thank you so much for talking
00:43:13.540
to us and and boy if you ever get down just please call because uh i know a lot of people who have been
00:43:21.700
there i've kind of been there myself and uh it's really hard you feel alone but know that you're not
00:43:28.980
you're really not i really really appreciate that thank you thanks tamra bye-bye i just that is that
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is such a great story such a great story um oh well no i kind of think it's the opposite
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yeah it's a bad story but it's it's good to see not only she's standing up and it's fascinating to
00:43:54.180
me this is going to happen to so many people i i don't know when this became political that's going
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to happen to almost everybody who right now is just and they're going to step into something and
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they'll say no but this just made sense yeah the world changed overnight and you weren't paying
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attention um but for her to hold her ground and then for this lgbt group to come in man i have respect