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00:00:30.000 All right, so we've got a great show for you today.

00:00:33.100 Oh, yeah?

00:00:33.560 Yeah.

00:00:34.080 Yeah, we do.

00:00:34.740 When do we start it?

00:00:36.200 Well, we just did it.

00:00:37.280 Oh, my God.

00:00:37.720 That was the great show?

00:00:38.920 Well.

00:00:39.300 Oh, wow.

00:00:39.880 We're going to frame it that way.

00:00:41.740 JD Vance was on.

00:00:43.200 That was pretty good.

00:00:44.300 Yeah.

00:00:44.980 Talking about his picks, Donald Trump's picks for vice president.

00:00:49.020 Well, we asked him about that.

00:00:50.040 That wasn't why he came on.

00:00:51.020 No, we talked about it, and then he came on and talked about something else that was important to him.

00:00:55.200 I don't know.

00:00:55.940 Something about spending the end of the republic.

00:00:58.620 I don't know.

00:00:58.840 Yeah, so, but we asked him about that.

00:01:01.640 His answer was surprising, didn't you think?

00:01:05.420 I don't know.

00:01:06.100 It was worded carefully.

00:01:07.620 It was?

00:01:08.080 It was worded in a way that might make you think that potentially some of his associates have had conversations, I thought.

00:01:15.700 He allowed for the idea that.

00:01:17.620 He allowed for the idea.

00:01:18.120 He said that he hadn't talked to Trump.

00:01:20.200 He personally.

00:01:21.240 Right.

00:01:21.420 Well, you'll have to decide for yourself.

00:01:23.260 A lot of great stuff on today's program.

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00:01:25.980 It begins in a minute.

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00:02:42.580 You're listening to the Best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:02:52.560 So I am, you know, I collect American history, and I collect it to preserve it, and I want to tell the whole story of American history, the good and the bad.

00:03:05.360 Probably the best example is we have a lot of stuff from Patton, and he was an amazing guy.

00:03:10.320 But we also have one letter from Patton where he is a monster, and I mean a monster, no better than the Nazis. 0.93

00:03:20.600 And, you know, we all have these conflicts in us, some bigger than other, and we wanted to make sure that we showed both sides of Patton.

00:03:33.620 That we don't make anybody into a hero without showing this is the heroic stuff they did, and this is the questionable or really bad stuff they did.

00:03:42.940 Jeffrey Epstein's black book is up for auction.

00:03:51.140 Now, this is not the book that he had when he died.

00:03:56.120 This is a book from around the year 2000 that he lost.

00:04:01.160 Somebody had it.

00:04:02.880 They found it in the street of New York.

00:04:05.220 It's been verified that it is his handwriting, and it is his book.

00:04:11.420 They picked it up and then just put it in a box and left it in a storage, you know, unit.

00:04:18.360 And ever since this Epstein thing has been going on, they're like, I got to find that book.

00:04:23.240 I got to find that book.

00:04:24.020 I know, but where did I put that book?

00:04:25.720 They went through their storage unit and found it.

00:04:28.420 Then they brought it to Alexander Historical Auctions, which is a really good auction house.

00:04:33.240 And they put it up with unredacted names and numbers.

00:04:40.060 You can't see it.

00:04:41.900 You can go and, you know, visit the book if you're interested in buying it and look through it.

00:04:46.600 You can't take pictures of it or anything else.

00:04:49.260 But the black book is for sale.

00:04:51.540 They're saying it's going to go between $100,000 and $200,000.

00:04:54.720 Now, my question is, is this just a passing big, but still like a passing blip?

00:05:06.180 Like, I'm really not interested in the Lindbergh trial.

00:05:10.520 Who cares?

00:05:11.500 Right.

00:05:11.700 You know what I mean?

00:05:13.320 It was a big thing at the time.

00:05:15.300 Is this a big thing just at the time?

00:05:17.900 And what would change that, I think, is was he or will we ever find out he was an operative for our government or other governments?

00:05:30.920 Hmm.

00:05:32.220 I don't know.

00:05:32.920 That's kind of the rumor right now, right?

00:05:34.460 Yeah, it is.

00:05:34.940 That he was CIA.

00:05:35.640 Yeah.

00:05:36.440 What's your first thought on Epstein's book, having it?

00:05:40.380 I mean, I'd love to have it just to read the names on the air.

00:05:43.780 Yeah.

00:05:44.300 You'd have to believe, though, if there was some, you know, if it was like George Soros, like we'd already know about it, right?

00:05:50.140 Yeah.

00:05:50.660 That page would be missing.

00:05:51.840 Right.

00:05:52.180 Yeah, exactly.

00:05:53.060 Shockingly, all the S's are missing and the G's. 1.00

00:05:55.660 Right.

00:05:56.700 So I kind of think that there's maybe not going to be a massive story in it, though it is an incredible.

00:06:02.400 Well, if we were considering really buying it, I would send somebody up to look through it and tell me, is there anything in it?

00:06:09.920 Right.

00:06:10.120 I mean, worth, you know, if it's like squeaky from. 0.99

00:06:13.040 I don't really care.

00:06:14.560 It would be.

00:06:15.080 I would care if squeaky from it on that.

00:06:16.960 That would be crazy.

00:06:18.320 Yeah. 0.98

00:06:18.460 Be nuts. 0.91

00:06:19.300 Yeah. 0.93

00:06:19.620 That's an interesting one.

00:06:20.660 I mean, because is it just here's a guy who did some really terrible thing like Jeffrey Dahmer merchandise.

00:06:26.380 You don't you're not buying that.

00:06:27.480 Yeah, I'm not buying that.

00:06:28.140 I'm not buying Michael Jackson stuff.

00:06:30.200 Right.

00:06:30.540 I don't really.

00:06:31.120 Would you buy OJ stuff?

00:06:34.100 Because that was pretty big.

00:06:35.380 Yeah.

00:06:35.880 Yeah.

00:06:36.140 If it was something really big.

00:06:38.540 Flash in the pan.

00:06:39.120 It was pretty big.

00:06:40.200 I have an OJ Simpson baseball card.

00:06:42.640 That's all I have a baseball card or not baseball.

00:06:45.680 That's incredible.

00:06:46.660 That is a huge story.

00:06:47.680 He played baseball football card.

00:06:50.360 Yes.

00:06:51.100 Yeah.

00:06:51.560 I mean, because I think OJ is on the level of Lindbergh.

00:06:55.120 Right.

00:06:55.960 Historically.

00:06:56.360 Yeah.

00:06:56.620 Historically.

00:06:56.840 Even to us right now, obviously, it's a lot bigger because it happened in the 90s.

00:07:00.520 Right.

00:07:01.220 But, you know, in 50 years, I don't know that it's.

00:07:02.920 The only thing that would be worth in that is somehow or another finding a way to capture the African-American response to OJ.

00:07:15.960 Setting him free because he was finally able to beat the man.

00:07:21.380 Right.

00:07:21.560 And by the way, jurors from the trial have said that's what they did.

00:07:25.800 It's just not Glenn making things up.

00:07:27.780 Right.

00:07:28.100 And so if you could capture that because we're having the opposite right now.

00:07:34.060 You know, people not looking at the facts of anything because they want somebody to win one way or another.

00:07:41.280 And so that is that is something to happen with jurors.

00:07:45.440 And so it would tell that story.

00:07:46.660 But I don't know how to capture that.

00:07:48.040 And remember, you know, the Epstein thing is tied into powerful people, even if you just, you know, Prince Andrew.

00:07:52.640 Right.

00:07:52.780 Like, I mean, there's certainly I don't know that he's in that book per se, but I will say that my instinct is, yes, you should bid on it.

00:08:00.680 Largely because I think one of the things you do at the museum and is part of your mission statement over there is to preserve history that will be erased.

00:08:10.320 And, man, the Epstein thing falls directly in that category.

00:08:14.500 Like, we know about it right now, kind of.

00:08:17.820 I don't think we know the whole story.

00:08:19.520 And the powers that be will do everything they can to make sure that goes down some memory hole that we don't remember it like the Lindbergh case.

00:08:26.840 Correct.

00:08:27.160 Right.

00:08:27.300 Like, they want that to go away.

00:08:28.680 So, actually, preserving some of that history, I think, is a good use of resources.

00:08:37.240 Of course, if there's nothing interesting in it, I suppose maybe that's not, you know, the case.

00:08:42.280 But, man, I don't know.

00:08:44.400 It seems like we still don't know the story on that one.

00:08:46.480 But they'll let you see the whole thing before you buy it.

00:08:48.760 Yes.

00:08:49.420 You can go up right now and make an appointment.

00:08:51.980 And you can go up.

00:08:53.760 I was thinking about sending Jason up there.

00:08:55.800 And you can go up and make an appointment and seeing it, see it, see what's in it.

00:09:02.980 You can't take a photograph of it and, you know, no copies of it.

00:09:08.360 But you can come back and then he could tell me this is what's in it.

00:09:12.880 These are the kinds of names that are in it that he could remember.

00:09:16.200 You need to send someone with a photographic memory.

00:09:20.140 I know.

00:09:20.680 Do we have a listener with a photographic memory?

00:09:22.320 That would be great.

00:09:23.300 I will say it seems like if they're showing it to people, right, and we don't have any leakages on the actual story.

00:09:31.900 Well, he just announced it yesterday, I think.

00:09:34.320 Okay.

00:09:34.700 Yeah.

00:09:35.100 So, at some point, you'd think that the story would leak out if there was something amazing in it.

00:09:39.260 Not necessarily.

00:09:39.500 Because if you are qualified to go see it, you know, you're signed up to bid, you're a buyer.

00:09:46.520 And if there's something great in it, you don't want anybody to know.

00:09:49.080 Until after you have it.

00:09:50.420 Correct.

00:09:50.560 Right.

00:09:51.100 That's a good one.

00:09:51.520 They each vary in length from only a few lines to over 10 or 15 lines or more each.

00:09:56.880 Each of the entries have several more names included.

00:09:59.640 Additionally, 94 names bear black hand applied check marks.

00:10:03.960 Five have been highlighted in yellow.

00:10:05.820 So, all five names, including that of President Donald Trump, interesting that that one is out, are well-recognized financial and industrial figures.

00:10:16.320 The significance of the checked and highlighted names is unknown.

00:10:19.420 The details included in the vast majority of the entries are most extensive.

00:10:24.460 Epstein not only includes the name, address, and telephone number of his contact, but in most cases also adds other residential addresses and numbers, contact information, family members, secretaries, immediate employees, associates, cell phone numbers, and at least one instant, a contact's girlfriend's number.

00:10:41.680 There's a good deal of information hinting at Epstein's sordid pass, including the very first entry, contact information for the front desk, and five apartment numbers corresponding with telephone numbers at 301 E66th Street.

00:10:56.700 This address was home for many young models, girlfriends, pilots, and lawyers associated with Jeffrey Epstein.

00:11:04.020 The book contains entries for former Ford models, CEO Kate Ford, as well as an entry for masseuse, which lists 24 women's names and numbers with pager numbers as well.

00:11:19.980 The history of this criminal relic is fascinating.

00:11:22.240 The mid-1990s musician living in Manhattan discovered the book lying on Fifth Avenue sidewalk in Midtown.

00:11:28.040 She eventually put it in storage, was not until 2020 while cleaning out her storage unit that she realized it belonged to Jeffrey Epstein.

00:11:34.820 She reached out to several media outlets, not this one, who failed to react.

00:11:39.060 Assuming that the book was a copy, she listed it on eBay, where it was purchased by a graduate...

00:11:44.000 How is that possible?

00:11:46.860 How is this possible?

00:11:48.540 So who was it purchased by?

00:11:50.040 A graduate student in the Northeast who has possessed it ever since.

00:11:53.440 For how much? Do we know how much?

00:11:54.620 Nope, don't know.

00:11:55.480 Wow.

00:11:55.860 A 2004 Epstein black book was discovered by the FBI and used in legal proceedings, but this copy, which came to light after Epstein's death, was not considered as evidentiary importance at the time of its discovery.

00:12:09.380 According to Business Insider, the 1731 names contained in the two volumes together do not appear in the 2004 book.

00:12:19.460 During its six-month investigation, Business Insider journalists had respected forensic document examiners, applied forensics, examined the book to determine its authenticity.

00:12:28.480 After a researcher looked at the binding and the data within, the examiners determined there are indications or evidences to suggest the Q1 address book predated the online version of the address book and was in existence in the late 1990s.

00:12:45.700 So a copy of that report is available.

00:12:48.040 So there's 1,700 names?

00:12:51.980 But we don't know why they're named.

00:12:53.940 Nope.

00:12:54.860 That's interesting.

00:12:56.200 What they released, and it's interesting again, they released Donald Trump and Alan Dershowitz as names in this.

00:13:04.720 Oh my gosh.

00:13:05.500 Of course.

00:13:06.100 Of course.

00:13:06.620 Of course.

00:13:06.980 Of course.

00:13:07.680 Donald Trump, Alan Dershowitz, Frederick Fekai.

00:13:11.540 Do you know who that is?

00:13:12.620 F-E-K-K-A-I?

00:13:14.740 No.

00:13:15.920 Christy Hefner and Edward Kennedy.

00:13:20.640 Huh.

00:13:21.720 Frederick Fekai, French hairstylist and entrepreneur.

00:13:25.080 Of course.

00:13:26.240 Well, who doesn't have a French hairstylist in their black book. 0.87

00:13:29.660 Makes a bunch of products, though.

00:13:30.880 It seems like a big, has a big company making the stuff, it appears.

00:13:35.560 So what is your first thought?

00:13:37.080 Wow.

00:13:37.220 Yes or no?

00:13:37.940 Should we?

00:13:38.240 I'd say yes.

00:13:39.420 Go look at it, or are you instead of buying it?

00:13:42.320 Yeah, I'd look at it, and then depending on the names.

00:13:45.120 What is its significance in history, long term?

00:13:49.260 What dirtbags we had in office, I guess. 1.00

00:13:53.580 I mean, you're going to find out some things about people, right?

00:13:57.120 Although, it doesn't say why, again, it doesn't say why they're in the book.

00:14:00.560 Right.

00:14:00.720 I mean, we know the Alan Dershowitz thing, like we already know the person who accused him came out and said, ah, maybe it wasn't him.

00:14:07.200 Yeah, he was in there because he's the attorney.

00:14:09.700 Right.

00:14:10.340 So it's not necessarily going to have, you don't know if it's going to give you some major story that's going to change history.

00:14:15.320 I will say, though, they're going to.

00:14:16.560 I'm sorry.

00:14:17.200 We do also know that Donald Trump threw him out, right, of Mar-a-Lago.

00:14:22.220 Yeah, they had him falling out a long time ago.

00:14:24.820 Because he was, you know, I guess trying to recruit some of the females.

00:14:28.760 And Donald Trump said, get out, don't come back.

00:14:32.020 Yeah, no, they had definitely, the Trump thing is, I don't know, I think that's a complete disconnect to the Epstein story from long, long ago.

00:14:39.500 But I will say that.

00:14:40.660 Otherwise, it would have made political hay out of that.

00:14:43.040 Yeah, the Clinton one is much more, I think, significant.

00:14:45.520 Yeah.

00:14:45.760 You know, and.

00:14:46.900 Yeah.

00:14:47.540 That one is.

00:14:49.400 And the Gates.

00:14:50.600 I think the Bill Gates one, too.

00:14:52.080 You have to, some of his comments have been really weird about that.

00:14:55.040 Really weird.

00:14:55.480 Really weird.

00:14:56.200 Or his wife's.

00:14:57.260 I think Bill Gates has flown under the radar as one of, you know, just a, you know, weird, quirky guy for so long.

00:15:05.520 I think he may end up being one of the true villains of our time.

00:15:10.280 I think that's quite possible.

00:15:11.720 A lot of people believe that.

00:15:12.640 Mm-hmm.

00:15:13.520 I mean, the things that he wants to do on population control.

00:15:17.040 Yeah.

00:15:17.520 His connections there.

00:15:19.780 His divorce from his wife, who was like, get away from Jeffrey Epstein.

00:15:23.840 We know who he is.

00:15:24.840 And he wouldn't get away from Jeffrey Epstein and they divorced.

00:15:29.380 That's kind of a big deal.

00:15:30.620 Mm-hmm.

00:15:30.900 Kind of a big deal.

00:15:31.680 Yeah.

00:15:31.800 When he's occasionally been pressed on that, it has not gone well for Gates.

00:15:34.940 I mean, we don't know what happened there, but something weird was going on.

00:15:38.960 Very.

00:15:39.480 Yeah.

00:15:39.840 And, you know.

00:15:41.020 He stole all the technology from Xerox in the first place.

00:15:43.660 Yeah.

00:15:44.120 So.

00:15:44.580 Minor issue.

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00:16:01.940 It's transitory.

00:16:03.400 Yeah.

00:16:03.720 And then it suddenly totally wasn't at all transitory.

00:16:07.780 Remember that?

00:16:08.880 Yeah.

00:16:09.380 Fun times.

00:16:10.120 Fun times.

00:16:10.760 I'm sure you're aware.

00:16:11.880 Not only is inflation still here, but it's going to get worse.

00:16:15.460 And the media refuses to use the word that we officially hit on Friday with the job numbers

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00:16:26.660 Oh, brings me back to the times of Jimmy Carter.

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00:17:08.820 Now back to the podcast.

00:17:11.120 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:17:12.980 And we really want to thank you for listening.

00:17:15.600 J.D. Vance is going to be joining us here in just a few minutes.

00:17:19.040 As soon as he jumps on the phone, I know he's got a very limited schedule, but we wanted

00:17:22.240 to talk to him about what was going on with the Trump trial.

00:17:25.100 Also want to hear, you know, about him possibly being vice president.

00:17:30.140 How, how is that, how are those conversations going?

00:17:33.040 Currently tied for the second, or he's the second favorite, right?

00:17:35.960 You have two people tied for first, which is Doug Burgum and Tim Scott.

00:17:39.120 I don't see either of those happening.

00:17:40.280 I don't see either of those happening.

00:17:40.900 I mean, that's just, I mean, again, we're just guessing here.

00:17:42.740 We don't have any inside info on this process.

00:17:44.600 I mean, Doug Bergman is, come on.

00:17:46.140 You can't even, you don't even know his name.

00:17:47.300 I mean, it's Bergum.

00:17:48.620 Now, Bergumentum is real.

00:17:49.880 It's turning into Bergamania at any moment.

00:17:52.420 The eyebrow guy is out.

00:17:53.760 I just don't see.

00:17:55.540 I know we're getting reporting on it.

00:17:57.980 I just don't believe it.

00:17:59.160 It's just my own vibe.

00:18:00.740 I don't know.

00:18:01.160 That's not, I.

00:18:02.440 And I don't think Tim Scott is strong enough yet.

00:18:05.420 He might be later, but he's not strong enough yet.

00:18:07.700 I just don't see it.

00:18:09.040 He's not strong enough in the defense.

00:18:11.080 And I still think he's not going to cross those loyalty lines that Trump likes.

00:18:15.740 I don't know.

00:18:16.200 I could be wrong on that.

00:18:16.840 I would love J.D. Vance to be vice president.

00:18:18.680 J.D. Vance is, I think, I think he's a real choice.

00:18:20.960 I mean, again, he doesn't, he does not check any of the intersectional identity politics boxes.

00:18:25.920 But again, we're told that Trump doesn't care about that.

00:18:28.100 I certainly don't care about it.

00:18:29.320 He didn't.

00:18:29.500 He picked Mike Pence last time.

00:18:30.660 He picked Mike Pence last time.

00:18:31.760 But he picked Mike Pence, I think, because of his Christian evangelical connection.

00:18:35.780 He saw that as a weakness.

00:18:36.560 I think that's revealing.

00:18:37.380 And I think that's personally why he will pick Tulsi Gabbard.

00:18:43.420 Because the weakness this time is with women. 1.00

00:18:45.940 Women and also abortion. 0.90

00:18:48.900 He believed, now look, I, this is not how I feel, but every piece of reporting from inside

00:18:54.540 the White House and Trump's public statements back up the idea that he thinks if he goes

00:18:59.000 too far on abortion, he's going to lose.

00:19:00.700 Yes.

00:19:01.120 That's what it sounds like.

00:19:02.400 And that's what all the reporting inside of the campaign indicates.

00:19:05.740 He's very much trying to walk this middle line.

00:19:09.460 He's not abandoning his, what he did with the judges, but he's, he does not want that

00:19:13.360 to be the number one thing.

00:19:14.400 And a guy like Mike Pence would point in that direction.

00:19:18.380 So you think the religious conservative angle, maybe not the one he goes to here.

00:19:22.160 Tulsi Gabbard, I hate to point out, was a Bernie Sanders campaign volunteer.

00:19:27.620 So think of this as Donald Trump.

00:19:29.880 I like her, but she's. 0.90

00:19:30.700 What I worry about is his pick is going to be the party after Donald Trump.

00:19:36.760 In four years, that's the setup for the party.

00:19:40.040 Who is it going to be?

00:19:41.140 J.D. Vance, I think, would be great.

00:19:42.480 Tulsi Gabbard is not the Republican Party, but if you look at this, she would tell you.

00:19:48.900 Right.

00:19:49.120 She's not.

00:19:49.860 But if you look at it from his perspective, he's got all this divide.

00:19:54.940 Everybody says he's a divider.

00:19:56.740 All right.

00:19:57.140 Here's somebody who I don't agree with on a lot.

00:19:59.240 But she agrees on certain principles that America is great.

00:20:02.460 America should come first. 0.80

00:20:03.620 We shouldn't be in all these foreign wars, et cetera, et cetera.

00:20:07.500 I could see her if not vice president.

00:20:10.520 I could see him.

00:20:11.320 This is not my hope, but this is what I could see him doing.

00:20:16.000 He would think I can appeal to the people who are women in the suburbs by saying, come on, she's more like you. 1.00

00:20:28.440 She works with me.

00:20:29.840 We're not what everybody says we are.

00:20:32.840 Right out of central casting, as Trump always says.

00:20:35.480 Right out of central casting.

00:20:36.020 Right out of central casting.

00:20:37.300 I do think it's possible.

00:20:39.160 Okay.

00:20:39.480 We have J.D. Vance on with us now.

00:20:41.660 Hello, J.D.

00:20:42.680 How are you?

00:20:43.400 Hey, Glenn.

00:20:44.140 Good.

00:20:44.360 How are you doing, man?

00:20:45.020 Great.

00:20:45.400 Great to talk to you.

00:20:46.260 First, I have to ask you, how are the talks to be vice president going, huh?

00:20:51.860 I'm just saying.

00:20:55.240 Well, you'll be the first to know, Glenn.

00:20:56.840 Of course, the media is very curious in this, but I've never yet had a conversation with Donald Trump about being his vice president.

00:21:03.460 Really?

00:21:04.060 Until I do, I will assume that this is a lot of media speculation.

00:21:07.940 Wow.

00:21:08.380 What you do about nothing.

00:21:09.580 Well, we're pulling for you, actually.

00:21:11.280 We're pulling for you.

00:21:12.200 So, let's talk a little bit about Trump and the trial.

00:21:17.000 This trial is more than just a kangaroo court.

00:21:21.680 This is, there is, there's nothing to this trial.

00:21:25.880 How do you think it's going?

00:21:26.820 Well, I think it's, I mean, the only thing that really matters, of course, is the court of public opinion, because it's such a sham trial.

00:21:34.700 I don't think that it's going to hold up on appeal.

00:21:37.060 You know, the basic argument here is that he falsified documents in order to commit a crime, but they can't even identify which crime he allegedly committed.

00:21:44.640 So, it's very hard to imagine anything like that can hold up on appeal.

00:21:48.860 Now, look, it is highlighting, I think, how corrupt the justice system has gotten in certain parts of our country, right?

00:21:55.500 So, you have the number three person at Biden's DOJ who jumps ship and goes and joins a local prosecutor office to participate in this.

00:22:03.380 By the way, he's also, it turns out, a DNC-paid consultant.

00:22:07.120 Then you have, of course, a Soros-funded prosecutor who brings the case.

00:22:10.340 It's being presided over by a literal campaign donor to Biden-Harris, who is preventing Donald Trump from even speaking on the merits of the case in the court of public opinion.

00:22:21.000 So, I think it's really helping Trump politically, which, again, I think is all that matters because most people who have any sense of fairness recognize that this is a sham trial.

00:22:33.280 And so long as it's helping Trump get elected, I think that's the thing that matters most.

00:22:36.780 I will tell you that I think the line of maybe the year, we're not finished yet, but I think the line maybe of the year is Donald Trump, when he came out, I think it was yesterday,

00:22:46.260 and said, the Constitution is well worth me going to jail for.

00:22:53.240 It's worth more than me trying to stay out of jail.

00:22:57.840 So, put me in jail.

00:22:59.040 And I thought, wow, I mean, that is a strong, strong stance.

00:23:05.800 That's a way of driving home mistakes, doesn't it?

00:23:07.960 Yes, it does.

00:23:08.840 This guy is literally trying to prevent him from speaking.

00:23:14.640 The Democrats have made this a major political issue.

00:23:16.960 The Democrats are fundraising off of it.

00:23:18.960 Biden-Harris campaign sending around fundraising emails.

00:23:22.680 Oh, isn't it funny that Donald Trump's in court today, sent us money.

00:23:25.820 And yet the judge is preventing Trump from participating in what is right now the most lively political debate of the country.

00:23:34.060 So, it really, I think, again, just drives home how much these guys have lost their minds.

00:23:40.420 And, you know, I've even seen polls here that Biden, people who plan to vote for Joe Biden recognize this is fundamentally a sham trial.

00:23:48.700 Now, here's the crazy thing about this, Glenn, is I do a lot of hostile media.

00:23:53.080 It's one of the things I like to do is sort of taking our case to the other side.

00:23:56.000 And I've sat in green rooms with people who months ago were angry at Alvin Bragg for bringing this case because it was such a weak case.

00:24:04.540 But now that it's the only case that's actually gone to trial because the rest of them have fallen apart, you see the media treating this as legitimate.

00:24:12.260 And I don't think anybody believes them, right?

00:24:14.480 There's just no credibility here.

00:24:16.280 And everything that further erodes their credibility is, in my view, a good thing.

00:24:19.860 So, let me ask you a couple of other questions.

00:24:22.260 I know we have limited time.

00:24:23.240 Let me first stop with the campus protest funding and Biden holding back aid bullets to Israel.

00:24:31.400 Isn't this exactly what Donald Trump was impeached for?

00:24:36.640 He held back congressionally approved javelins from Ukraine.

00:24:44.080 And now Biden is holding back ammunition from Israel.

00:24:49.740 What's the difference?

00:24:50.940 There isn't any difference, of course.

00:24:54.200 The only real difference is I think that Donald Trump actually was engaged in some diplomacy and was negotiating with the Ukrainians and also other folks in the region about how much aid they should be providing.

00:25:05.980 Of course, it shouldn't just be America, whether you support Ukraine or not.

00:25:08.840 What's different about this is I think you're taking one of the few truly bipartisan issues in this country that we should be supporting our allies, Israel, and you're allowing it to be dictated by the far left.

00:25:19.220 Now, I have a little bit of a different take on this, Glenn, because I think what Biden is doing is really killing two political birds with one stone here.

00:25:28.780 One, as I've been warning for months, we don't have enough ammunition to send to Ukraine and Israel simultaneously.

00:25:34.900 We have to pick one.

00:25:36.000 Well, the Biden administration, I think, has picked the corrupt Ukrainian regime over our long term ally, the Israelis. 0.90

00:25:42.140 I think it's disgraceful.

00:25:43.060 But simultaneously, he's going to his left flank and saying, the reason I'm doing this is because, you know, BB is bad and because we don't like the way that BB is prosecuting the war.

00:25:53.540 So he gets to tell his left flank what they want to hear while covering for the fundamental failure of his foreign policy.

00:26:00.700 It's one of the reasons, Glenn, it was such a bad idea for Republicans to give Biden this security supplemental.

00:26:07.360 It's such a big bill that it sort of allows Biden to hide his priorities and to have his cake and eat it, too.

00:26:15.280 The the other thing that I want to talk to you about is the health care that is now going to illegal migrants.

00:26:23.200 How does this president get away with so much executive power that there nobody gave him the authorization to do this?

00:26:33.820 Nobody gave him the authorization to spend all of this money.

00:26:37.500 Nobody gave him the authorization to relieve or to forgive, quote, all those loans and time to the back of the taxpayer.

00:26:45.620 This is a very important concept in our in our Constitution.

00:26:50.280 It's why congressmen have to be reelected every two years, because we want to them to answer for the money they just spent or allowed to be spent.

00:27:02.500 Well, you're right, Glenn. And I mean, look, we know that at this point, Biden is a tyrannical president who will violate the law and it is a violation of the law.

00:27:11.760 But I don't want to let us off the hook here, because we should know at this point that when we appropriate Joe Biden a big chunk of money,

00:27:19.540 he is sometimes going to violate the law in the way that he actually distributes it.

00:27:23.840 And this means that Congress actually has to take a little bit more assertive of a role, has to be willing to cut off certain appropriations, not write Biden these blank checks.

00:27:34.440 This is really important, Glenn. Congress increasingly, you know, again, with this massive security supplemental, when you write Joe Biden a check,

00:27:43.280 you can't go to the American people and say, well, you know, he's he's he's doing this illegally.

00:27:47.600 Well, that's true. But, you know, he's going to do it illegally. So you have to be a little bit more careful about how we give this guy authority in the first place.

00:27:55.220 And I have to say here, Glenn, this giving health care to illegal aliens is it should offend every single American. 1.00

00:28:03.820 Again, we have a social safety net in this country. Medicaid exists for impoverished people to help pay their medical bills.

00:28:11.540 If you allow folks who should not be in this country to begin with, who are here illegally to literally take from the mouths of American poor children so that we can fund their health care, then whose side are you really on? 0.97

00:28:24.120 And I think it's becoming increasingly clear that Biden doesn't like the people who currently make up the citizenry of this country.

00:28:31.340 And he's trying to change the way the country operates, the way that we distribute resources, the way that we vote.

00:28:37.820 And that's what his illegal immigration push is all about.

00:28:40.340 Well, I just cannot believe that, you know, those at the very bottom of the scale, the ones that the Republicans, the Democrats have said they care about the most forever.

00:28:50.160 The black families that are trapped in Chicago and are barely making ends meet.

00:28:57.080 How are they to view the government when they're not getting, you know, they're not being put up in a hotel someplace.

00:29:05.500 They're not getting all of these perks.

00:29:07.720 And yet we're doing it for people who just came here.

00:29:11.260 I mean, if I were on the receiving end or on the need end of this and I was a citizen, I'd be like, dude, what are you doing?

00:29:20.880 You never did this for me.

00:29:22.240 You never did this for, you know, my family as we were struggling.

00:29:27.260 Absolutely.

00:29:27.900 They just came here and a lot of them came here illegally. 0.99

00:29:30.120 Glenn, we have veterans who can't afford health care, who are sleeping on park benches. 0.83

00:29:34.040 At the same time, we're handing out free health care to people who violated the law to come to this country in the first place. 1.00

00:29:41.380 It's completely disgraceful.

00:29:43.320 And I think a lot of people should be looking around and saying, who does Joe Biden actually stand for?

00:29:48.540 Right. The Democrats say that they care about the little guy.

00:29:51.620 Let me tell you just a brief story.

00:29:53.140 Glenn, I have a dear friend of mine who's getting up there in years, who is now eligible for Social Security.

00:29:59.340 He basically found out that there were a number of illegal aliens who had used his Social Security number to get a whole host of benefits, including Social Security benefits.

00:30:09.080 When he went to the government and said, hey, I'd like to know who's using these things so I can report to the police.

00:30:14.060 They basically told him, no, we don't reveal people's personal information, even illegal aliens who are committing Social Security fraud.

00:30:21.360 This is the kind of country that Joe Biden has created, where the very things that we do as a country to help the least fortunate are being given away to illegal aliens instead of American citizens.

00:30:33.360 I cannot stand it.

00:30:35.800 J.D., thank you so much.

00:30:37.240 Senator J.D. Vance from Ohio.

00:30:39.580 Always good to have you on.

00:30:40.580 Thank you.

00:30:41.460 Thanks.

00:30:42.060 God bless you, Ben.

00:30:43.620 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:30:48.380 I want to welcome back to the program Ryan Morrow.

00:30:50.920 He is a counterterrorism expert, an investigative researcher for the Capital Research Center, where he monitors extremist groups in the U.S.

00:30:59.700 He is also an adjunct professor at Regent University.

00:31:04.220 Ryan, welcome back to the program.

00:31:05.520 How are you?

00:31:06.820 I'm doing well.

00:31:07.380 Thanks for having me back.

00:31:08.520 Thank you so much for doing all of this work.

00:31:11.020 It's crazy that when I read your work now, I'm brought back to 2008, and I see exactly the same names, the same circle of people all returning to do what they did during Occupy Wall Street.

00:31:27.980 That's exactly right.

00:31:30.980 It's the same model, except this is more successful for various reasons.

00:31:38.400 And I'm sorry to say it appears to be more militant and increasingly militant and revolutionary because we've been monitoring probably around 250, 300 different groups all at once, and we haven't fully investigated all of them.

00:31:54.900 And my expectation based on my past work that you're familiar with with the Muslim Brotherhood and Phil Haney and that type of thing was that this would be a coalition and people would be surprised by the proportion of which are Islamist extremists, but there'd be a wide cast of characters.

00:32:13.080 I've got to tell you, so far on my list, which is only a portion of what we have, I've come up with over 120 terrorism-tied organizations involved in these protests, almost all of which support Hamas and the October 7th attacks, and I can prove it because they all said it. 0.96

00:32:32.420 So there isn't much diversity here.

00:32:35.220 This was conjured up and is being implemented by a group of Hamas supporters, some of which have ties to Hamas more directly.

00:32:46.420 So I remember in 2010, I said, you will see an effort from Islamists, Marxists, anti-capitalists, communists.

00:32:57.500 They'll all come together to disrupt the order and try to collapse the West. 0.94

00:33:03.440 And I was made fun of because people said, like the Marxists and the Islamists have anything to do with each other.

00:33:10.220 And I said, they're not going to be calling each other up.

00:33:13.440 They just all see the opportunity to destroy more of America and destabilize us.

00:33:20.920 Do you think that's what's happening, any of that?

00:33:22.720 Yeah, well, you're being proven correct, and you're going to be increasingly proven correctly once we finish our huge expose, breaking down the entire makeup of this group and all the messaging that they're using.

00:33:35.000 And you're right, they don't call each other up, but they do communicate on social media and the telegram chants and the rest of it because their language, their way of talking is now so similar because it's so revolutionary.

00:33:46.680 And they've kind of combined their different causes into one thing, even if they disagree on what happens after their revolution succeeds.

00:33:54.440 They kind of put that off to the side, but yes, that coalition is coming together.

00:34:00.320 And I would say there's kind of like four concentric circles where on the outermost layer, you have the more typical Muslim Brotherhood style groups that are a bit cautious, but they imply their support for criminality. 1.00

00:34:11.840 We condemn terrorism, but if you know how they talk, you know what they're saying.

00:34:18.880 And then you have the next circle in where they're very similar, but they go a step further in passing around guides on how to do criminal acts of protest, so they're a little bit more militant.

00:34:28.820 And then you move further in, and those are the people that are saying, well, we need to escalate on the college campuses, let's fight the police, let's get a little bit more destructive.

00:34:37.740 And then there's this inner circle that I think can be accurately described as domestic terrorists, and I'm watching what they're saying to each other and what they're advocating,

00:34:46.260 and they're passing around descriptions and guides on how to do every conceivable violent and act of sabotage that you can think of.

00:34:54.420 And their debate and their argument, and they seem to be gaining ground, is that we're having so much success that, yes, of course we should escalate on the college campuses and the typical places we show up, the congressional offices, all that.

00:35:05.880 But we're really doing so well right now that we should broaden out our campaign and not make it about influencing opinion and policy, but imposing our will.

00:35:14.660 Let's dismantle the nationwide infrastructure that enables the U.S. and Israeli military alliance and capitalism and all of that to continue. 0.72

00:35:25.080 So it's no longer a debate.

00:35:27.160 We just make you follow our orders.

00:35:28.980 As somebody who, you know, researches, you know, is a researcher on terror, how likely is it that we're going to see a massive terror strike, even if it's not something like 9-11,

00:35:48.040 but it's several groups all around the country doing something around the same time to just really throw us off?

00:35:56.860 The impression I get is that they may not take the exceptional risk of trying to coordinate it down to the very second or the very same hour,

00:36:06.400 but they say generally, okay, now it's go time.

00:36:09.180 In fact, that's what they're saying in the communication of saying, a lot of them are saying it's go time,

00:36:12.960 but some are saying, yeah, maybe we should wait while we do the college campuses first.

00:36:16.240 It's in that kind of stage of discussion.

00:36:18.300 But they're all envisioning a large number of small attacks over a short period of time,

00:36:24.920 and they see that as the most likely way forward as opposed to this resource-intensive operation like a 9-11 that has a higher chance of failure.

00:36:34.720 Right, right.

00:36:35.960 Who is actually funding this?

00:36:38.120 Who are the big people that are funding?

00:36:40.340 Well, some of the names that you mentioned certainly are involved,

00:36:44.560 but I've got to say based on what little data is available,

00:36:47.460 and people will be shocked how little data is available and what you can get away with as a nonprofit

00:36:53.100 and these different schemes that they have in order to hide any type of transparency,

00:36:57.720 but of what little data we have, the names that you mentioned, the Soros's, the Tide Foundation,

00:37:03.380 and all of those are donating to these types of groups that are putting this together,

00:37:08.360 but that appears to be a tiny percentage of the overall spending and revenue that they have.

00:37:15.520 The rest seems to be coming through means unknown, maybe private donors or businesses

00:37:20.540 or these various schemes that they have, and that makes it much more frightening

00:37:25.300 because we don't have a clue in general.

00:37:28.520 How much money do you think we're talking about?

00:37:33.380 Well, with all these groups, I mean, if we've identified 120 terror-tied groups just on our own,

00:37:40.480 their operating budgets and everything else, I mean, you've got to be talking about altogether,

00:37:45.360 I mean, definitely millions, probably tens of millions.

00:37:48.100 Jeez.

00:37:52.380 So is there any lead, or is this just a collection of people that are kind of, you know, thinking alike,

00:38:01.280 or are they highly coordinated?

00:38:05.940 They're highly coordinated when it comes down to the cell level,

00:38:08.720 and as they're trying to assemble these types of insurgent and guerrilla networks on the local level,

00:38:14.440 that's much more organized.

00:38:16.120 And then in the broader scheme of things, in doing these types of protests,

00:38:20.180 there's less coordination because there just doesn't need to be.

00:38:22.620 Everyone's focused on the same thing.

00:38:24.180 Everyone kind of has the same objective.

00:38:25.720 So you don't need as much command and control.

00:38:28.560 But there's certainly organizations that are more powerful than others,

00:38:31.500 all sorts of coalitions with sub-coalitions.

00:38:35.400 And so you have groups like the U.S. Campaign for Palestinian Rights that alone has about 300 groups

00:38:40.300 in their network, and they present themselves as very moderate.

00:38:44.960 But then in the activist guides, the toolkits that they send around,

00:38:48.740 they'll have links to websites that talk about how to do illegal direct actions as part of the protests.

00:38:53.500 And, of course, they have links to Hamas overseas.

00:38:56.860 They send money to the Palestinian territories for the BDS campaign,

00:39:00.620 and like a specific structure that actually has Hamas in it.

00:39:03.600 So it's not even an indirect thing.

00:39:05.960 But, of course, they get mainstream credibility,

00:39:08.020 and they look just fine according to the people that talk about these issues.

00:39:12.240 So, you know, I'm looking at some of the things that you have dug up.

00:39:16.360 And now it looks like UCLA, Columbia, USC, and other college campus encampments were planned

00:39:23.160 pretty much right after October 7th, beginning in November 2023.

00:39:31.000 Yeah, that's definitely true.

00:39:32.720 As soon as one group starts doing it and starts getting chatty about it,

00:39:36.600 then other groups are going to start talking to them about it.

00:39:39.160 So that's a very easy thing to happen.

00:39:41.060 It started becoming a trend as soon as the effort began.

00:39:44.760 And, honestly, I think Hamas and their affiliates would have been crazy not to at least have some discussion

00:39:50.720 right before they did the October 7th attacks about,

00:39:53.400 all right, well, how are we going to operate politically in the United States and elsewhere

00:39:57.880 in dealing with the Israeli response?

00:40:01.020 Like, that conversation had to take place.

00:40:02.660 And you might have seen the fruits of it when immediately after the attack,

00:40:07.120 you had the Students for Justice in Palestine saying not just that you support the attacks,

00:40:11.440 which is how most of the media reported it.

00:40:13.460 Oh, they said that they support the attacks.

00:40:15.040 How outrageous.

00:40:15.680 No, what they actually said was, and this is an almost direct quote,

00:40:18.380 is we're not just saying we're in solidarity with the resistance movement that carried out the attack.

00:40:26.100 Obviously referring to Hamas, but they don't want to say Hamas.

00:40:28.960 We're part of it.

00:40:29.840 But they absorbed themselves into it, and so that they were acting in allegiance to them under their direction.

00:40:37.380 That crosses the line into material support for terrorism.

00:40:41.040 That's the provision of personnel and resources.

00:40:45.660 So that's a very different thing than how the media characterized,

00:40:47.780 and that's why Ron DeSantis was much more justified than how it was characterized

00:40:51.540 when he shut down two of the Students for Justice in Palestine chapters on college campuses in Florida.

00:40:57.040 That's amazing. Amazing that our government is really doing nothing on this.

00:41:01.960 What is the percentage of those that we see on television that are actual believers, 1.00

00:41:06.540 know what they're doing, compared to useful idiots? 1.00

00:41:09.440 The majority are going to be useful idiots, I think, that were enticed by, 1.00

00:41:15.200 aside from being at that age where you're eager to try to figure out your role in the world, 1.00

00:41:19.400 you feel like you're doing something positive.

00:41:21.160 I mean, it's just psychology at that age.

00:41:23.320 But the overall message of, hey, do you oppose genocide?

00:41:28.860 Do you oppose war?

00:41:30.360 Do you oppose the conditions of the Palestinians?

00:41:32.200 And, well, here's our argument for opposing Israel, 0.73

00:41:36.880 because that will result in peace, ceasefires, and improvement and liberation for the Palestinians.

00:41:41.840 And that, to a lot of the people, is now an intellectual, detailed argument.

00:41:46.840 And I've got to say, culturally, and, you know, I'm not that old, I'm not that young, I'm 37,

00:41:52.660 but I've seen a shift over the past, like, six or seven years where the unjustified arrogance of the youth

00:42:00.460 when it comes to political issues is just outrageous.

00:42:04.720 The degree of certainty that exists, and that's really weaponized by these groups.

00:42:08.740 Right.

00:42:08.980 For these to be the elite campuses, it just shows how bad our educational system is. 1.00

00:42:16.700 These people are morons, just morons. 1.00

00:42:19.300 But we're up against summer, and graduations are happening. 1.00

00:42:24.900 What happens in the summer?

00:42:26.380 Does this go away and then pick back up in the fall?

00:42:28.980 What is the plan, if you know?

00:42:33.600 I mean, the plan is definitely to continue, as it always is.

00:42:36.560 But I think, unlike the incidents with Black Lives Matter and other times in the past,

00:42:41.580 those are generated by specific incidents.

00:42:43.780 And over time, the memory of those incidents and the emotional backlash dissipate.

00:42:49.300 Whereas this is more of a permanent thing, because Israel is not going to stop the operations.

00:42:53.900 And Gaza against Hamas, that situation is not going to resolve itself.

00:42:57.520 And so it has much more longevity.

00:43:00.320 So it will continue into the summertime.

00:43:02.920 A lot of groups have put their credibility on the line into saying we're going to act over the summer and to the future.

00:43:08.020 And even just from a more selfish operational standpoint, a lot of these nonprofits seem to be raising a lot of money and getting a lot of members.

00:43:16.920 And so regardless of the cause, there's a real selfish motivation on each one of those parts to keep the chaos going.

00:43:24.200 A BLM?

00:43:25.200 Some people got very, very rich off of that.

00:43:29.380 Right.

00:43:30.100 Right.

00:43:30.520 Exactly.

00:43:31.280 Ryan, thank you so much for everything that you do.

00:43:33.300 When you have more information, please reach out, because I'd love to have you on again.

00:43:37.760 It's really important work that should be heard by everybody.

00:43:42.200 Thank you so much.

00:43:43.640 All right.

00:43:43.920 Thank you, Glenn.

00:43:44.400 You bet.

00:43:45.080 Na, na, na, na, na.

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The Glenn Beck Program - May 07, 2024

Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Sen. JD Vance & Ryan Mauro ｜ 5⧸7⧸24

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