The Glenn Beck Program - Best of The Program ｜ Guests： Sen. Josh Hawley, Lt. Gov. Mark Robinson, & Ami Horowitz ｜ 5⧸6⧸21

00:00:00.000 Hey, great podcast today. You don't want to miss a second of this podcast. We talk about critical

00:00:06.060 race theory with people who are actually doing something about it. Senator Josh Hawley is on

00:00:10.940 to talk about high tech and its tyranny and so much more on today's podcast.

00:00:22.800 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:00:30.000 Last night on Blaze TV, I did a Wednesday night special based on the three biggest lies

00:00:38.720 of race in America. Where we're going is just phenomenally bad. I mean, it's historically 1.00

00:00:48.260 bad. You can find the examples of what we're doing at the beginning of every, every genocidal

00:00:56.180 movement in the world. Now, it doesn't have to end that way, but this is the way they

00:01:01.780 started. So we were talking about race and in education, et cetera, et cetera. And Mark

00:01:09.360 Robinson is a guy who, you know, I think you've heard before. Let me play a clip of where you

00:01:16.380 might know him from. This is a YouTube clip. He's standing in front of, I think it was his

00:01:21.300 city council. Listen. What I really came down here for is this. I've heard a whole lot of

00:01:27.000 people in here talking tonight about this group and that group and domestic violence and blacks,

00:01:31.900 these minorities and that minority. What I want to know is when are you all going to start 0.99

00:01:36.580 standing up for the majority? And here's who the majority is. I'm the majority. I'm a law

00:01:42.740 Biden citizen who's never shot anybody, never committed a serious crime, never committed a

00:01:47.560 felony. I've never done anything like that, but it seems like every time we have one of these

00:01:54.240 shootings, nobody wants to blame, put the blame where it goes, which is at the shooter's feet.

00:01:59.740 You want to put it at my feet. You want to turn around and restrict my right,

00:02:05.720 constitutional right that's spelled out in black and white. You want to restrict my right to buy a

00:02:11.480 firearm and protect myself from some of the very people you're talking about in here tonight. 0.98

00:02:16.200 It's ridiculous. I don't think Rod Serling could come up with a better script. 0.89

00:02:21.380 It does not make any sense. The law abiding citizens of this community and many communities

00:02:26.720 around this country, we're the first ones taxed and the last ones considered and the first ones

00:02:33.240 punished when things like this happens, because our rights are the ones that are being taken away.

00:02:37.920 That's the reason why this was an amazing viral video. Mark, in case you lost track of him, as I

00:02:47.180 did, has now become the lieutenant governor of North Carolina. He was a factory worker when he gave

00:02:54.200 that speech a couple of years ago. He's now the lieutenant governor of North Carolina. Mark,

00:02:59.320 welcome to the program. How are you, sir?

00:03:02.180 Hey, Glenn, thank you for having me again. It's a pleasure.

00:03:04.620 You bet. I am so impressed with you, but let me just pretend I don't know and see if you could

00:03:14.940 explain to those listeners who don't know what a lieutenant governor actually does. Could you tell

00:03:21.660 me the responsibilities? I am. Actually, I'm the president of the Senate. That's my number one

00:03:27.740 responsibility. I preside over the Senate in his daily duties. I sit on the state school board. I'm

00:03:35.880 a voting member of the state school board. I sit on the Energy Commission. I also sit on the State

00:03:42.160 Economic Commission, as well as the Board of Governors for the community colleges. Other than

00:03:48.700 that, we kind of do sort of what we want to do here. We have a huge bully pulpit, and we are using

00:03:55.000 that to our advantage here to push some agenda that we think definitely need to be pushed here in

00:03:59.900 North Carolina. Man, I don't know if you're a religious guy, but divine providence, I think,

00:04:05.180 played a role in finding you. So let's talk about what you're doing in the schools as, you know,

00:04:12.280 a voting member of the school board. You are addressing indoctrination, which is happening

00:04:17.980 all across the country. And parents, some parents, I am really concerned about this. And we don't

00:04:27.540 really know what to do, because sometimes we had in our own community here, right down the street,

00:04:33.880 we had two council members and, you know, directors of the school board arrested because they were

00:04:43.780 hiding the information on critical race. What are you doing in North Carolina that we should know

00:04:50.180 about? Well, you know, indoctrination in schools is something that I've known about for years.

00:04:58.440 My children experienced it when they were in high school. I've experienced it and seen it firsthand

00:05:05.060 at the university level. I attended the university for the most part as an adult,

00:05:09.380 and I saw it a great deal when I was attending the university. And so we know it's a problem.

00:05:18.140 And all throughout our campaign, we heard about it from parents and teachers all across the state.

00:05:22.960 And so the one thing that folks always push back against us and say, well, where's your proof that

00:05:28.180 this exists? Well, we are in the process now of proving that. We started a task force here in North

00:05:33.480 Carolina in our office called a FACT. In fact, stands for fairness and accountability in the 0.86

00:05:39.560 classroom for teachers and students. And what is, what it's aimed at doing is giving people who have

00:05:46.140 been a victim of indoctrination in the classroom or at schools, no matter what their position may be,

00:05:51.860 whether they be a principal, whether they be a teacher, whether they be a student, whether they

00:05:55.240 be a parent, a place where they can come and lodge, lodge their complaints. We're going to look at those

00:06:00.360 complaints, disseminate them, and then we're going to make sure that we deliver these things to the

00:06:05.680 public and finally start the process of doing something about this issue. This is not just a

00:06:13.800 North Carolina issue. This is a national issue. And for my money, it has become a national crisis

00:06:19.940 because we are no longer teaching our children what they need to learn in the classroom to be

00:06:25.540 successful outside of the classroom. We have got to get education back into the business of education

00:06:30.900 and out of the indoctrination. And so this is the first step in doing that. We're only teaching them

00:06:37.520 how to be activists. We're not teaching them to be productive members of society, just activists.

00:06:43.080 That's it. Absolutely. So you have, who's on this board, this FACS board? And, and how, I mean,

00:06:52.220 because people are afraid to come out and say anything. I know several parents that don't want

00:06:57.620 to say anything because they're afraid their students are going to get hassled, you know,

00:07:02.120 by the teacher or in grades or whatever. Um, that happens in college all the time. Students are afraid

00:07:08.020 to disagree because there is no real freedom of speech and thought in the place where it's supposed

00:07:14.200 to happen. Most definitely it's important that it happens in education. Absolutely. That is,

00:07:22.500 that is one of the most concerning things about this issue is there are people that are afraid to

00:07:26.540 speak out. But we have 12 people on our board, 12, uh, very capable people on our board who have,

00:07:33.360 who are willing to fight this thing and have been fighting it. Some of them for a number of years.

00:07:37.480 But what I like to try to remind people about being afraid is this. If you do not speak up

00:07:43.200 against this tyranny now, it's not going to do you any good in the future. You're still going to

00:07:48.860 have to suffer the dreadful effects of this tyranny at some point. And I can guarantee you, if we allow

00:07:54.600 this tyranny to continue to exist, the price we will have to pay in the longterm is going to be much

00:08:00.780 steeper than the price we'll have to pay in the short term for standing up and bringing it to an end.

00:08:05.540 So I'm encouraging people to speak up because there's going to be a price to pay either way.

00:08:10.280 But again, that longterm price is going to be much more dreadful than the short term price.

00:08:15.880 I would encourage anybody who's in state government or even local government to look at facts from North

00:08:22.960 Carolina, uh, and, uh, just go to, uh, ltgov.nc.gov. And I'm sure you'll find it there. Um, but I urge

00:08:32.260 you to, uh, consider putting something together like this for your, um, community. And you do have

00:08:39.900 people from both sides and all sides that on this committee that understand the problem. So it's not

00:08:46.740 just a, a right wing thing, right? Absolutely. There are people, uh, from all across the community

00:08:53.740 who are absolutely tired of our schools, uh, being used, uh, for political purposes. We need to,

00:08:59.940 again, we need to get back to the business of teaching our children what they need to know in

00:09:04.200 order to be successful outside of the classroom, to build businesses, to, to go into being doctors

00:09:09.320 and lawyers, to be, to be plumbers and all the great things that we need in our society. And classroom

00:09:14.920 is not the place to push your views on people. The classroom is a place where you teach people how to

00:09:20.240 build their own views. And, uh, we need to, we need to make sure that that's happening.

00:09:24.580 Have you found a way or, or by listening to people on the left, uh, I shouldn't say on the left,

00:09:31.180 but, but think differently, um, how to talk to them about critical race theory. Cause I know

00:09:38.180 lots of people, uh, are afraid of sitting down with somebody who they know, you know, voted for Biden

00:09:45.760 is in with a lot of this stuff, uh, to talk about critical race theory, because it'll go right to

00:09:51.180 racists. You know, it goes right there. How do they, how are they approaching this? How do they

00:09:57.960 view critical race theory in schools? A lot of, well, critical race theory is being pushed in our

00:10:03.760 schools, sadly, but the thing that we have to understand, and again, this goes back to education

00:10:08.700 itself. We have to go back and look at history and look at other ideologies that were pushed,

00:10:14.060 that were detrimental to our society. If you go back and look at the racist ideologies that were

00:10:19.140 pushed in our, in, in, in societies that had separate, but equal as Jim Crow, many of them are 0.83

00:10:25.300 the absolute, they're absolutely just like the idea, the ideology we see in critical race theory,

00:10:31.880 except instead of it being, uh, white people who were racist, it were black, it was black people

00:10:37.860 being demonized. And so this ideology that we have to demonize someone else in order, 0.60

00:10:44.060 to, uh, raise, uh, uh, to raise the mobility of someone else is a fallacy. We do not do that in

00:10:51.840 this nation. Equality is the key and critical race theory flies in the face of equality because

00:10:58.360 it tells white people, you are automatically left than because you are white. That's not what we're

00:11:03.340 supposed to be doing anymore than we're supposed to be telling black people that they're left than 0.97

00:11:06.880 because they're black. We need to be teaching all of our students that you have equal worth and an 0.87

00:11:11.360 equal say in this nation. And that this racist idea that because your ancestors did something

00:11:17.780 terrible to someone else, that it's now your fault. It's just, it's patently wrong. Uh, you know,

00:11:23.800 I like to say it like this. They love to say that our systems are racist. Our systems are not racist.

00:11:28.820 It's not the systems that are racist. It are some of the people who are in the system who are racist.

00:11:34.960 We need to make sure that we're taking care of the people and we need to make sure we allow the

00:11:39.200 system to work like it should. Critical race theory doesn't allow us to do that. And therefore we

00:11:43.360 need to make sure that it's not a part of what we teach in our schools. The Lieutenant Governor

00:11:49.340 from North Carolina, um, talking about facts, uh, the facts program for school indoctrination or

00:11:56.160 against school indoctrination. You can find more information at the website, uh, ltgov.nc.gov.

00:12:03.740 You can follow him at Mark Robbins, uh, Mark Robbins, uh, NC, Mark Robinson. Thank you so much.

00:12:13.900 God bless you.

00:12:14.900 Yes, sir. Thank you very much for having me again, Glenn. It's a pleasure.

00:12:18.340 You bet. Uh, by the way, uh, there are other groups that, for instance, they're partnering with

00:12:25.360 Parents Defending Education and they are just trying to connect parents and teachers, um,

00:12:30.740 um, while taking aggressive legal measures to resist indoctrinations, uh, in our school. So

00:12:37.060 you, you do have tools and I urge you to get involved. Parents Defending Education or, um, you

00:12:45.700 know, you can look up Mark Robinson, uh, if you're in North Carolina or in another state and you

00:12:50.740 actually have an ability to start something in your state like this. Do it now.

00:12:56.100 So we have been talking about the loss of property rights, patent rights. Uh, let's talk about the

00:13:18.300 loss of your right to speak freely, uh, to gather, uh, with people that you, um, you know,

00:13:25.540 agree with to petition the government. All of these things are going away. And a lot of them

00:13:32.380 are going away because of what Senator Josh Hawley calls the tyranny of big tech. We welcome the,

00:13:39.520 uh, Senator, uh, from Missouri to the program. Hello, Senator Hawley. How are you, sir?

00:13:45.040 I'm doing great. Thanks for having me.

00:13:46.960 You bet. Um, you know, the news of the last couple of days has been how Facebook, Twitter,

00:13:53.320 they're, they're just going to continue to ban Donald Trump. Uh, and they're saying, because

00:13:58.480 he was part of that giant insurrection, the worst attack on our Republic since the civil war.

00:14:08.040 Yeah. You know, I don't think that's why they're banning him. Go ahead.

00:14:12.420 Yeah. No, it's why they're banning him is they don't like his speech and they're banning him and

00:14:17.280 can get by with it. Glenn, cause they're monopolies and all of their customers and consumers have

00:14:21.480 nowhere else to go because there's no competition. So you think about, well, my gosh, I don't like

00:14:25.640 what Facebook's doing. Where would I go? What platform would I go to that would be different

00:14:30.300 than Facebook and have different rules? The answer is nowhere because Facebook is in monopoly and they

00:14:35.080 are actively buying up competition and suppressing new entrance in the market. Ditto with Twitter.

00:14:39.800 We saw a parlor, a competitor to Twitter, try to try to get off the ground earlier this year. And

00:14:44.940 what happened back in January? Well, Twitter and Amazon and Apple and Google got together and

00:14:51.220 canceled parlor within the space of like 48 hours. So these are monopoly companies with monopoly power

00:14:57.380 over speech. And we've got to do something about it. So one of the things you've written a new book,

00:15:04.460 um, called the tyranny of big tech. And I think this is the one thing I'm glad you're dealing with it.

00:15:10.420 I mean, there's a lot of big talk in the Senate, but I don't see anybody actually going for the

00:15:15.500 throat of people, um, and doing anything, proposing anything that actually will change and release the

00:15:23.920 chokehold they have. Uh, part of it I think is because of money, but I think also part of it is

00:15:29.160 they are so incredibly powerful because of the information that they have. Uh, why is it we can't

00:15:36.920 get our government to move on them? Well, I think part of that is because big tech has purchased so

00:15:42.760 much influence in Washington and on Capitol Hill. They have spent a decade or more purchasing

00:15:48.720 lobbyist influence and think tank influence and academic influence and, and, uh, influence on

00:15:54.740 congressional staffs in terms of staffers that they recruit to come join them. You know, it's really,

00:15:59.120 it's really, really extraordinary. And you see how they really doubled down on this last election,

00:16:03.360 dumping money into the Biden Harris campaign. I mean, you talk about trying to buy access to the

00:16:08.140 white house. These companies have done it. And that's one of the reasons why the Democrats right

00:16:13.480 now are delighted with the power of big tech. They love, they secretly love the monopoly status

00:16:19.280 because these companies will censor in a way the government couldn't. And the Democrats want them

00:16:24.100 to do that. And they want them to do more of it.

00:16:26.000 They, they politic all the time for them to do more of it. Uh, it, and it is, it is terribly

00:16:33.560 frightening. I think they don't want Donald Trump, uh, back online because they know he can draw a

00:16:39.560 crowd and you, you don't want anyone who can unite the other side. They're too busy dividing. You can't

00:16:47.880 have somebody that can unite and bring a coalition that can actually stand against, uh, this, this

00:16:55.020 movement, uh, from the left.

00:16:58.200 No, that's, that's exactly right. It's an effort to silence a big tech part, an effort to silence

00:17:03.320 voices of opposition with whom they disagree and who represent a contrary view. You say that you saw

00:17:09.080 them do it back in the fall when they tried to suppress reporting on Hunter Biden and Joe Biden,

00:17:14.040 locking the New York posts out of their account on Twitter, Facebook, not allowing the story to be

00:17:18.980 circulated and distributed. I mean, talk about a brazen intervention in a presidential election. I mean,

00:17:24.440 trying to influence and stop the news during a presidential election. And then even more so in

00:17:29.520 January, of course, where they de-platformed the former president, where they kicked bunches of

00:17:33.600 conservatives off of, off of Twitter and Facebook and these platforms and where they canceled Parler.

00:17:38.880 I mean, so this is real power, Glenn, this is monopoly power. And to your point about what we're going to

00:17:43.680 do about it, we've got to break these companies up. We cannot try and go along to get along. You've got to

00:17:49.740 break these companies up. And you've also got to give American citizens the right to go to court

00:17:55.360 and to sue these companies if they take action against them based on political viewpoint. That's

00:18:00.560 my view. Give Americans the power to go to court, break up these companies. 0.95

00:18:04.560 I'd like one more thing. They're making all this money because of all the information they're gathering

00:18:09.020 on us. Who I am, what I do belongs to me, not to them. Just because they have given me a device that

00:18:16.760 allows them to follow me. I really don't like the power that they have of following me, monitoring me,

00:18:24.420 analyzing me, predicting me. No, thank you. I'd like to opt out on that. And if you want to sell my

00:18:32.180 information as I opt in, you can do that and you'll get a slice of it. But so will I.

00:18:39.740 That's right. And you know, these companies, their business model is built on taking our data

00:18:43.860 and our personal information without our consent, to your point, Glenn, and then selling it or

00:18:49.600 monetizing it without our permission and without any say from us of any kind. And I agree with you

00:18:54.820 100%. Individuals ought to be able to control their own information. It is private property. It's our

00:19:01.000 private property. In the same way, families, parents ought to be able to control their kids'

00:19:06.220 information. These companies track your kids around. They build dossiers in your kid. I say

00:19:10.060 this as a parent of three small children. You know, this is crazy, creepy stuff that they currently get

00:19:15.680 by with. And we've got to stop it. We've got to give people control again over their own property,

00:19:20.740 over their own data. So I'm very libertarian in my views of business. And I have really wrestled

00:19:29.260 with two things. In the past, I have wrestled with the, quote, robber barons. Many of those guys

00:19:35.660 were not robber barons. Some of them were. And I've always wondered, when you amass so much wealth

00:19:43.180 and power, how do you stop that from affecting everyone or infecting everything? And the only way

00:19:56.960 that I can come up with that I'm comfortable with is you cannot lobby laws. The law and the government

00:20:05.100 must be completely separate and blind from corporations. But I don't think that's possible.

00:20:12.660 How do you stop the, because these, I think you would agree with me, the people like Zuckerberg

00:20:17.780 will be remembered as really bad robber barons, taking from people, getting rich, and then doing

00:20:27.140 what they want, and many times against the interest of the people.

00:20:30.700 That's certainly how they're behaving. Now, Glenn, there's no doubt about it. And I think

00:20:35.540 when you look at American history, where we draw the line, those of us especially who believe in

00:20:40.140 free markets, who believe in free competition, and who believe in capitalism, where we draw the line

00:20:45.000 is to say, you know, we want people to be successful. You bet. We want businesses to be

00:20:49.580 successful. Yes, we do. What we do not want to see, though, is a business amass a bunch of market power

00:20:55.340 and then use it to suppress competition and use it to suppress innovation and use it to try and

00:21:01.020 control the political process, which is what we're seeing from these tech companies. That's,

00:21:05.640 I think, where we need to draw the line. I mean, my view is, is that breaking up monopolies

00:21:10.260 reinforces the market because it introduces new competition. So I'd like to see more competition.

00:21:16.120 I'd like to see more businesses. I'd like to see more choice for consumers out there. And if we had

00:21:22.160 more competition, these guys would have less power. But right now, the amount of power they have

00:21:26.620 is frightening. I will tell you that in your book, you talk about the Apple App Store. And you're

00:21:32.280 absolutely right. I remember the first time I wanted to put an app on there and I realized

00:21:36.260 they take, I can't even remember what it is, some obscene amount of money, like 30% of everything.

00:21:41.540 And you're like, what? And there's no negotiation. They tell you exactly how the app has to run.

00:21:48.700 They tell you everything about your own business. And I thought, wow, that's, that's a company that's

00:21:54.900 completely out of control. And look how much money they're getting, because they're the only option.

00:22:00.580 They're the only option.

00:22:03.000 Is the Apple tax, the infamous Apple tax that you just referenced. You're right. And what they also

00:22:07.880 usually do is, you know, with your, let's say your app, for instance, Glenn, then they take all of

00:22:12.060 your data about your customers. Yes. So Apple says, give us everything, you know,

00:22:16.500 all of the info. It's crazy. It's really bad. So you, the name of the book, we're talking to

00:22:23.200 Senator Josh Hawley about his new book, uh, the, uh, tyranny of big tech. Um, it's my understanding

00:22:30.780 that Simon and Schuster actually had this book and we can talk for hours about Simon and Schuster. I

00:22:38.740 just ended my 10 year prison sentence with these people. Um, uh, uh, because they had a hostile

00:22:45.960 takeover and they just, just eliminated any conservative in that company. Um, but you had

00:22:52.340 a contract with them on this book. What happened? Well, they canceled it. I mean, this is the book

00:22:58.460 is all about how big tech is trying to control our politics and trying to control free speech. And

00:23:02.800 then big tech, uh, teamed up with these corporate publisher to try to cancel this very book. I mean,

00:23:07.800 you talk about irony, but Simon and Schuster originally commissioned the book. And then in

00:23:11.480 January, uh, following a January 6th, uh, Simon and Schuster turned around and said, Oh, we're

00:23:16.440 going to, we're going to try to deplatform Holly. We're going to cancel this book. They accused me of 0.97

00:23:20.700 helping incite a riot at the United States Capitol, which is totally and 100% false. And by the way,

00:23:26.540 they know it's false, but what they did is bow down to the, the big tech, a Twitter mob. You had a big,

00:23:32.120 a Twitter, a petition that started that said, deplatform Holly, cancel his book contract,

00:23:37.000 take this away, silence him. And Simon and Schuster got right in there with them. You know,

00:23:41.460 I'm grateful that there's still independent businesses and independent publishers in this

00:23:46.200 company. So my book, it was not canceled. It's available now. And I just said, Glenn,

00:23:50.940 my view is this with this cancel culture, you've got to go out and take a stand and refuse to be

00:23:55.100 canceled. And that's what I said at the time. I am not going to go along with this. I refuse to be

00:24:00.860 cowed. I refuse to be silenced. I refuse to be canceled. I'm going to keep speaking whatever

00:24:05.780 forum I can. And I'm glad that the book found its way to print. Yeah. Good for you. Again,

00:24:11.400 the name of the book is, um, the, uh, the tyranny of big tech. One last question. I can't leave out

00:24:17.740 you. I love you for this. You tie Woodrow Wilson into, uh, big tech and really kind of point to him as

00:24:29.060 kind of the guy of the modern oligarchy. Uh, and I think that's really what we're headed for

00:24:35.240 is a, is an oligarchy where these guys are in bed with the government, the government's in bed with

00:24:41.140 the big businesses and they're controlling everything. And we just go along. Um, and it,

00:24:48.760 it is really difficult because at the time it seemed as though it was a socialist movement,

00:24:55.280 a communist movement, progressives said, we're going to take it step by step because we don't

00:25:00.260 believe in the bloody revolution of 1917, but it's not, it is really an oligarchy. And I think

00:25:06.880 that's becoming very, very clear to people now on both the left and the right.

00:25:13.260 Yeah. Wilson, I think really begins this, begins this trend of, of embracing corporate power and

00:25:18.760 monopoly power. He's also our first globalist president in many ways. Uh, someone who wanted,

00:25:24.420 uh, wanted the United States to become a liberal empire, uh, uh, worldwide and, and wanted the

00:25:30.740 United States to, to be, to enmesh its economy with the global economy. And so there's, you know,

00:25:35.680 globalists tend to love Wilson and there's a real reason for that. And Wilson, I think begins

00:25:40.700 this, this trend in American politics. He ushers in a new era in American politics where, you know,

00:25:45.860 it's, it's really sort of form corporatism where you see these big, huge corporate behemoths and

00:25:50.020 the government says, well, look, you know, here's how we'll deal with them. We'll get big government

00:25:53.000 and the big corporations together and together we'll kind of run things, you know, big mistake,

00:25:59.520 big, big mistake. And this gets back to the Republican party conservatives, our roots in,

00:26:04.400 in free markets, in competition, in the rights of individuals and families. And that's what we've got

00:26:10.420 to recover. And we've got to get back to a place where individuals have power over their own

00:26:15.340 property, individuals have a say and control over their own government and not these mass,

00:26:20.380 not these oligarchs in Washington, DC or Silicon Valley. I'd love to talk to you more about this

00:26:25.920 because you also put Teddy Roosevelt, who I love and hate at the same time in his proper place on

00:26:32.600 this. And that is the disease that permeated the GOP and had the GOP kind of really pretty much going

00:26:39.140 on the same line as the progressive Democrat. Senator Josh Hawley, the author of the book,

00:26:46.020 The Tyranny of Big Tech, an important book, small book, and easy to read, The Tyranny of Big Tech.

00:26:52.940 Josh Hawley, thank you so much. Appreciate it. Thanks for having me.

00:26:55.860 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program. And we really want to thank you for listening.

00:27:09.520 We have a dear friend joining us now, really talented filmmaker, a guy who everybody says,

00:27:15.420 you got to get into culture. He's actually doing it and making a big impact. He has changed Swedish

00:27:22.280 immigration policy, U.S. trade policy, education policy here in the country. He has been on ships,

00:27:30.160 you know, tracking down jihadist pirates. I think he's a lunatic, but he's actually really, 0.97

00:27:37.760 really smart and on our side. And he's just put a new video out. I'm going to play about a minute of 0.97

00:27:45.140 it, but this is I'll tell you where to get it here in a second. This is worth watching and reposting

00:27:51.080 and spreading in your network. It is Ami Horowitz on the streets of New York talking about

00:27:57.600 the rich paying their fair share.

00:28:00.160 So do you think that the poor pay a higher percentage of their income? Yes. Or the rich?

00:28:05.840 They do pay a higher percentage of their income. Yeah, they do. Yeah. Oh, the lower class, 1.00

00:28:09.680 definitely. Pay more. Yeah. Lower income people.

00:28:13.240 Lower people. The 1% earn about 25% of all the income in America. So there you go. If we're talking

00:28:20.480 about fair share, then, you know, if you're bringing in 25% of the income, 25% of the taxes

00:28:27.000 should also... That would be fair. Yeah, I would think so. Yeah. And would you be surprised

00:28:31.600 if I told you that the top 1% pay 40% of all taxes? I would be surprised. Yeah. Would it

00:28:36.240 surprise you if I said the rich, the 1%, pay 40% of all taxes in America? Interesting. Would

00:28:42.040 surprise me. Yeah. Do they? Yeah. Interesting. So a little more fair than you might have thought.

00:28:46.480 Yeah. What percent of income do you think the top 1% pay? I think they're paying like ficking

00:28:53.600 2% of them. They're paying 27%. What? 27%.

00:29:00.160 Ami Horowitz, welcome to the program. Amazing. How are you? It's a pleasure. And by the way,

00:29:03.520 such a wonderful pleasure to be in a town where I don't have to wear a mask and get people yelling

00:29:10.000 at me and screaming at me and mask shaming me. That is awesome. Yeah. Texas

00:29:16.320 is a pretty awesome place to live. I can't imagine what it's like in New York. I was up in Connecticut

00:29:22.160 a few weeks ago. We had a death in the family and had to go up to Connecticut. And it was

00:29:26.480 like a... It was like... I thought Elon Musk had drugged me, put me into a spaceship, and he had

00:29:35.200 already populated Mars and it looked like Connecticut, but it was completely Martian.

00:29:42.640 I... The people there, it's a mental illness now. It really is a mental illness. 1.00

00:29:47.440 It's absolutely become a mental illness. There's no question about it. No, I mean, 0.95

00:29:50.000 look, most of these people are vaccinated, but they will wear... You will see them running in the

00:29:55.120 park wearing masks. I saw a guy running a horse wearing a mask.

00:30:01.120 Okay. I'm surprised he didn't put a mask on the horse. That's... I would just like to point out,

00:30:10.480 I've seen a lot of things in New York, but the exception of a cop, I've never seen anybody

00:30:16.640 riding a horse in New York. No, there are horses in Central Park. Yes, you can ride a horse. You can

00:30:23.920 walk... You can ride a horse in Central Park. It's true. You can ride a horse in Central... I mean,

00:30:27.520 you rent it there, or do you have to bring your own horse? They used to have these stables

00:30:32.000 right off of Central Park. They've now kind of changed them, but they still have horses that

00:30:35.440 you could rent out. They don't really run. They're just walking. Yeah, because they're

00:30:42.160 probably beaten at that. They're like, I can't live in this city one more day. I just can't do it.

00:30:46.720 I can't do it. Where's the glue factory, man? Right. So you were on the streets of New York,

00:30:51.600 York. And I mean, one of the guys that you were talking to was full-fledged Marxist.

00:30:56.080 Oh, yeah. And what was shocking about this was how certain all of them were about facts that were

00:31:05.840 completely untrue and then surprised, but not like embarrassed that they had it so wrong.

00:31:14.480 You know, I actually, a lot of my videos are, look, they're important, but they're dark because

00:31:20.960 they're just, I'm showing the underbelly of the left, right? And what they actually believe.

00:31:26.480 This video is a little more hopeful because as certain as they were about faulty facts about taxes,

00:31:35.440 which by the way, this is, if you ask anybody on the left, right? They would say the same thing

00:31:41.440 that these people on the video saw. Of course, the rich pay more. Of course, the rich don't pay,

00:31:44.960 I mean, the poor pay more and the rich don't pay their fair share. But the hopeful part of this video

00:31:49.920 was when they were confronted with the facts, with the actual reality of what tax policy is,

00:31:56.240 they reversed themselves. And they said, that actually does sound fair, right? And this is,

00:32:00.320 and it's a hopeful video in the sense that we are right on the facts, okay? We are right on the facts.

00:32:06.320 And if we're able to get that out there, we could win this argument. Because let me tell you,

00:32:11.840 easily, the class warfare issue is going to be the battle. It's not gonna be the race issue.

00:32:19.680 And the race issue was really, when I spent a lot of time with BLM protesters, I start

00:32:23.920 scratching the surface and presenting them with the facts, right? About how many people were actually

00:32:27.880 killed unarmed by black people by white police officers. They will accept that and poo-poo it, 1.00

00:32:33.040 and then it'll switch to a class issue. Because ultimately, what is critical race theory?

00:32:38.320 Critical race theory is simply a slight deviation from class theory of Marx.

00:32:44.320 You have something, or you don't have something, because this other class that happens to be white 1.00

00:32:50.480 has it. Right. And the real battle is not going to be race. It's going to be class. And there is,

00:32:55.440 you know, the studies have showed over and over again that a significant portion of youth in this

00:33:00.080 country want communism. Not social democrat, not to be social democrats like the Europeans. 0.76

00:33:05.520 I'm talking about straight up Marxism, communism, the destruction of the free market.

00:33:10.880 It is not quite a majority or a polarity, but it's getting there. It's over 20%, 25%.

00:33:16.400 I'll tell you this, Ami. You can see it. You can see people being able to rationalize it at some point

00:33:25.280 as well, because the government has been so corrupt. They have done so much with, you know,

00:33:32.000 in the last year, we've spent 19 trillion dollars. Where's that money? That's not going to the average

00:33:36.960 person that is going to giant corporations. It's going to graph. I mean, it's no one is actually

00:33:44.160 feeling the impact of that. And when you start to see real inflation, you will look at the bank and go,

00:33:52.320 you got all of that money from 2008. I got nothing. I got nothing. And you're going to start

00:34:00.160 looking at these companies that are now lecturing us Coca-Cola on how we have to live our life,

00:34:06.080 et cetera, et cetera, and what's good and what's bad. And you're just going to look at all of these

00:34:10.720 people and say, you are my enemy. You are my enemy. And you'll put all people in that category,

00:34:19.760 just like we do now. If you're a conservative, you're evil. If you're a liberal, you're a Marxist. 0.98

00:34:27.040 That's not true, but that's the way human nature does it. And Marxism encourages it.

00:34:33.100 Yeah. Look, there's a, there's no question. I think that the, the, the lack of understanding,

00:34:38.940 you know, and I guess Joe Biden must've gotten a tour of the treasury building and he goes,

00:34:43.620 wait a second, we own the printing press. I can just print as much money as I want.

00:34:48.980 What? I mean, that's what it must've been like, right? What are we at? $10 trillion in new spending?

00:34:54.900 Trillion, $10 trillion. And that's your point. The point is no regular person is going to feel that

00:35:00.100 because our economy is too big. The country is too big. And even those kinds of numbers don't

00:35:04.500 really have an impact. And yes. And most of that money end up going through fraud and waste. And

00:35:09.680 they're going to say, well, what happened? What happened to this money that we said? And then

00:35:14.440 of course, when the bill comes due and inflation hits, right? And then they're really going to feel

00:35:18.720 it. And that's where they're going to say, what happened here? It is the, the biggest, uh, theft

00:35:26.880 ever. And we've gone through somewhat, we've gone through some of this before, not, you know, um,

00:35:35.400 Marx believed that capitalism was evil and twisted and, and was exactly what it is now

00:35:42.000 become. And he, so his idea of people rising up against the upper class is accurate. If you

00:35:53.080 are like the upper class appears to be a, not all upper class. I mean, the institutionalized

00:35:59.760 upper class is they are getting benefits that no one else is seeing. Uh, and we've gone through

00:36:09.860 it before. I was with Jay Leno at his garage few years ago, and he has this beautiful Bugatti.

00:36:16.320 It's this big old 1929 Bugatti. And my son ran up to it. He was little. And I think he had peanut

00:36:23.460 butter on his hands and I'm like, don't do it. And, uh, Jay was like, no, go on, sit in. That's what

00:36:30.180 it's for. I mean, it was really crazy. Um, but as he was in touching everything and leaving jam

00:36:36.240 prints over this Bugatti, I said to, uh, I said to Jay, uh, what a beautiful car. And he said, better

00:36:44.740 story behind it than it is beautiful. He said that car was purchased in 1929 in New York by a guy who

00:36:52.800 was head of an industry. He said, um, he never drew it, uh, never drove it by the time he got it.

00:37:00.120 It was too dangerous for him to be seen in the Bugatti. He said that car ended up, uh, they took

00:37:08.180 it apart and they used it as a truck. They just completely took this amazing car away and used it

00:37:15.600 as a truck because every time that car would be seen, it was class warfare. And you're a bad guy

00:37:22.660 because you have that car. And by the way, today you're, that's scary. Today you're dressed like

00:37:26.400 Jay as well. There's a lot of denim going on. You're right. But yeah, there is a lot of denim

00:37:30.920 going on and the white hair. That's right. Nothing scares me more than class warfare. Look,

00:37:35.160 when you go to Europe, one of the, one of the, one of the many differences between Europeans and us

00:37:40.780 is that the Europeans are jealous of people in the upper class. If you have a, if you have a beautiful

00:37:45.920 car in London or in, or, or in Paris, oftentimes friends of mine who have those kinds of cars,

00:37:50.920 they get keyed because people are so disgusted that they have that kind of wealth. And I don't,

00:37:56.360 and here, this country was so beautiful about is we're aspirational. We look at people with

00:38:01.280 beautiful cars and you're thinking is not, I need that. Why does he have that car? Not me. You think

00:38:06.100 I want that car. I'm going to do what it takes to get that car or that house or wherever it is.

00:38:11.380 And we are losing that beautiful aspirational part of our country because the left has engaged us in

00:38:18.960 this damaging class warfare, which like, I can't repeat enough. It will be the battle for the next

00:38:24.860 10 years for the soul of this country, more than any other issue that we're facing. It's the class 0.99

00:38:29.620 warfare issue that will, will either sink us or will take us ahead for the next hundred years.

00:38:35.860 So let's, let's talk a little bit about, uh, uh, the whole idea of there will be an America that we

00:38:46.880 all recognize in 10 years. Yeah, there will be in 10 years for sure. A hundred percent. Uh, there's so

00:38:53.560 much gas in the tank from over the past few decades of success that they'll, they'll carry us for a

00:38:59.980 decade or two. Having said that it's the next 10 years, which will decide the fate for the next

00:39:06.360 hundred years. We'll know the answer in 10 years. We'll know the direction the country is going in

00:39:11.180 in 10 years of that. I have no doubt in which direction we will go. It is up in the air and

00:39:16.360 is up to us to fight for us to win that ideological battle. We know which direction the, the Biden

00:39:25.420 administration is going to take us. Um, and that is into a whole new, um, uh, kind of, I mean,

00:39:32.640 they're, they're talking about resetting and doing, you know, getting rid of capitalism and into

00:39:38.020 stakeholder capitalism, which is not capitalism. It's an oligarchy. So we know that they are on

00:39:44.080 this path right now. And that, I mean, I think they've got a short time period to pull that off.

00:39:49.620 They've got about two years unless they, they completely destroyed the election process by

00:39:55.160 then. Yeah. One of the most, um, insidious parts of the left is their changing of the language,

00:40:02.460 right? Uh, they're, they're, they're, they're denuding of power from words, like racism is a

00:40:07.980 meaningless word now. Right. Um, and, and one of the things they've done, and if you've noticed it,

00:40:13.280 that what the word that the left use most often was equality, right? That was the buzzword of,

00:40:20.880 and what did they change it to? You're so right. Equity, equity, equity. And what does that mean?

00:40:26.040 There's a very specific meaning to their version of the word equity, which means ownership. And what

00:40:32.540 it means is we have to get equal outcomes, right? What was equality, equal opportunity. That is a

00:40:40.200 disgusting notion to them now. Now they want equal outcome. And that's what equity gives them.

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