Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) joins Glenn Beck on the show to talk about the Save America Act and why the Senate should invoke the so-called Talking filibuster to force a vote on the bill.
00:00:20.960I don't know if that's going to make the cut,
00:00:22.600because I might have said some things that, you know, he wouldn't have said at the end,
00:00:26.620and it was about John Thune and the Save America Act.
00:00:30.000The true cost of looking the other way, all of the corruption, what does all of it mean, and why doesn't anybody seem to care?
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00:05:01.300It made people realize they were on the wrong side, the losing side of history, and they ended up negotiating some changes to the bill to save face, and they got the thing passed.
00:05:13.860We don't know who the other three other people are other than those initial three who have, you know, identified themselves as against the bill.
00:05:20.880I strongly disagree with them, but at least they've got the courage to say what they're doing.
00:05:26.300There are others who are under the cover of night for reasons I don't understand and not required to identify themselves instead, take pot shots from the cheap seats and say, we don't want to do it.
00:05:38.800But let's see, people feel differently and we ought to do this.
00:05:42.940The American people are with us on this, Glenn.
00:05:47.360These ships don't pass this way very often where we've got the House, we've got the Senate, we've got the White House, and we've got 85 percent of the American people on our side.
00:05:54.940only congressional democrats uh and a few miscellaneous others are against this so let's
00:06:00.580take advantage of it and don't let these people hide in silence in secrecy and not even identify
00:06:07.180themselves much less articulate their reasons for not wanting to do it this is absurd
00:06:11.580so um jonathan martin at politico uh came after me the other day and he said how can one spend
00:06:21.500decades in and around american politics and not understand the basic macro politics of midterm
00:06:26.940elections he was taking me on because i said it'll be the death of the republic and it might be the
00:06:31.940death of the republicans if if they don't take this up and pass it and my producer ricky you
00:06:38.880know tried to answer some of his questions uh uh you know because you know sometimes sometimes
00:06:45.940people care more about policy uh principles than politics um and he seemed to miss the
00:06:52.800point entirely when he he replied um he said midterms are historically difficult for the
00:06:58.940party in power there's nothing to do whether a voter id passes you know six months before the
00:07:04.220election stop with the apocalyptic nonsense and learn some basic history i'm not sure what history
00:07:09.540he's looking for other than yeah um midterms are tough for the party that's in but he seems to miss
00:07:16.240that i really believe the voters that go out and actually vote the base of your party that care
00:07:24.620um are tired of this back and forth political nonsense and they're saying here's a principle
00:07:34.460that you have the chance to actually pass that everybody in america is for mike tell me are you
00:07:41.260or is anybody in in the senate concerned that maybe by not doing these things you will lose
00:07:49.600your base and people are not going to go out and and fight and even fight the traffic to go out and
00:07:58.280vote vote for you people and i'm sorry to lump you in on that but the gop they're not going to
00:08:04.040go out and vote for you because you don't stand for anything this is the biggest clear victory
00:08:11.240i have ever seen and the gop is not going to take advantage of it and they won't tell us why and
00:08:19.180they don't even want to be on record on which ones vote for it which ones vote against something's
00:08:24.400terribly wrong here yeah no because we're addicted to comfort we're addicted to convenience
00:08:31.000we meeting the Senate as an institution. We've gotten so accustomed to predictability and ease
00:08:38.540and comfort and being able to plan ahead and saying, well, I want to be on this city on this
00:08:44.900day. I want to give a speech here on that day. Sometimes you have to do things in this job that
00:08:51.040are difficult. Sometimes you have to take a lot of votes. Sometimes you have to give a lot of
00:08:54.820speeches. Sometimes you have to devote a lot of time at inconvenient times in order to do things
00:08:59.960before you run out of time we're about to run out of time and yeah that that reporter is right
00:09:05.960things can be very difficult for the party that's got the majority in both houses of congress and
00:09:12.440the white house and that's all the more reason why we've got to do everything we can to make
00:09:16.620sure our elections are secure and do everything we can to make sure that our base shows up and
00:09:22.860they're not going to show up unless we fight their battles unless we make clear that we're with them
00:09:28.560this one should not be hard glenn there are things in this job that are hard that are really hard
00:09:34.240this isn't one of them and i i i literally do not understand this has been one of the more
00:09:41.260perplexing things in 15 years in the united states senate that i've seen i literally don't
00:09:47.640have a legitimate explanation for this uh i i mean i get it the radical left hates this bill
00:09:53.940to hit it with a white hot passion and we can all make an educated guess as to why they hate it
00:10:01.980but regardless that doesn't mean that the rest of us who are not part of the radical left have to go
00:10:06.640along with it and so i it just i i'm dumbfounded by the fact that we as senate republicans
00:10:11.540are resisting this now all that said uh look if we move forward and i i've i've spoken to uh
00:10:21.680senator thune the senate majority leader as recently as last night about this and we'll
00:10:27.340move to it and we'll debate it regardless of whether he wants to call it a talking filibuster
00:10:33.160i don't care what he calls it but we've got to get onto the bill and we've got to not move right
00:10:40.300ahead to filing cloture and going forward with the what would at this point be a failed cloture
00:10:46.120vote we've got to make them speak we've got to make them call the floor we've got to make them
00:10:50.800defend their indefensible position in front of the American people under the white hot lights
00:10:56.460of the Senate floor. And we got to make them do it for a significant amount of time. I don't know
00:11:02.240how much time it's going to take, but you subject them to that for enough time. And I'm very
00:11:08.840confident some of them are going to start to see the light on this. Some of them are going to start
00:11:14.940coming to the negotiating table on this because they don't want to have to defend the indefensible
00:11:19.980very long. So Thune says he'll bring it to a vote. But what does that mean? Does that mean
00:11:27.360the cloture thing? Well, if it means he's going to bring it up, we'll have a motion. See, that's
00:11:36.160the beauty of this bill, the procedural status of the bill. It's coming over from the House
00:11:42.940of Representatives in the form of a message. There are all these weird rules that relate to
00:11:47.620the interplay between the House rules and the Senate rules.
00:11:50.420The House sends us a bill in the form of a message.
00:11:53.900That means that we don't have to take a cloture vote at the front end to get
00:12:39.740When the bill arrived from the house of representatives in March of 1964,
00:12:43.520They spent 60 days debating it, and lo and behold, those people who were opposed to it, mostly Democrats, by the way, they started to negotiate after a few weeks of this, and they were eventually able to negotiate some changes that allowed them to save enough face that they were able to and willing to vote for cloture at the end of the process, and as a result, that bill passed.
00:13:07.840this is one of those moments that's what i don't want to compare the two bills they're different
00:13:12.540bills but this one should be way easier to pass on that one it's simpler oh my god more popular
00:13:17.480than that one and so we ought to get i have to tell you it it just pissed me off so much when
00:13:23.260when thune came out and said yeah well they still needed 60 votes yes they didn't have the 60 votes
00:13:28.640when they started 60 days later as you said the 34 votes suddenly were found i mean oh it just
00:13:37.580it's so agonizing. Donald Trump seems to be really clear on, uh, pushing and saying,
00:13:45.460get this done. They don't seem to care. Thune doesn't seem to care. McConnell,
00:13:50.320of course, doesn't Murkowski tell us they don't care. Has he done everything he can?
00:13:58.280Well, uh, look, uh, no, nobody's done everything that they can until they have gone through the
00:14:05.580steps that we've described and again i don't care what we want to call it if he doesn't like calling
00:14:10.100it a talking filibuster i really could not care less what i care about is getting this damn bill
00:14:14.820on the floor debating it and debating it for a long time i mean two weeks ought to be the bare
00:14:22.680minimum and then reassess at that point where we are and what we need to do to keep the momentum
00:14:28.820going and what we need to do to bring keep bringing about consensus but the one thing we cannot do
00:14:33.900is bring it to the floor and then say oh gee we're tired um we want to take a recess it's time for
00:14:42.080recess we we need to we need to um recess for a couple of weeks for easter and then you know some
00:14:49.020of us want to go to the bahamas or whatever ridiculous thing they've got planned um that
00:14:54.200will result in failure and so i i can't emphasize enough the importance of um continuing
00:15:03.420to talk about this continuing to encourage your senators regardless of where you think they may
00:15:09.520be on this whether you think they're staunchly against it or already for it i promise you
00:15:14.500they need encouragement they need to be told is you need to be in washington you need to not
00:15:20.940leave washington until this is done and the department of homeland security is funded
00:15:29.360Mike, is there anything, is there any procedure that allows J.D. Vance to take the leadership role?
00:15:38.740J.D. Vance can't come to the Senate anytime he wants and immediately assume the position in the presiding officer chair.
00:15:44.600There is, I've long believed, significant and underutilized authority that comes with sitting in that chair.
00:15:52.220Just the ability to call the shots from moment to moment to make procedural rulings upon receiving, but not necessarily always guided by the advice of the parliamentarian, the presiding officer, especially if the vice president can do what he wants.
00:16:11.220But I would certainly welcome the vice president coming to do that.
00:16:16.300And I would also welcome each and every Republican senator weighing in on this and encouraging Senate Republicans to do the right thing.
00:16:27.840Look, I I don't want to speak for anyone else. I want to don't want to put words into any senator's mouth.
00:16:35.020It is not my place to do that. But I will say this. I do think that Jonathan wants to win the November elections.
00:16:48.360I do think he wants to keep the both chambers of Congress in Republican hands.
00:16:54.520And based on my most recent conversations with him, including last night, I think he gets the fact that we can't get on this bill and immediately start heading to cloture.
00:17:04.000let's continue to encourage him to prolong debate on this as long as it takes to get it passed
00:17:11.080thanks mike i'm going to say something and mike didn't i think i think thune is a piece of garbage
00:17:17.260myself on this um and worthless and uh i would encourage the white house to encourage jd vance
00:17:24.840to go over and assume the role get this done if they're not going to do it encourage the vice
00:17:33.940president and the president to have the vice president walk in and say, Thune, sit down.
00:17:40.040Here's what we're going to do. If that is constitutionally, if he's able to do that
00:17:44.520constitutionally, it should be done. That did not come from Mike Lee. Mike, thank you so much. I
00:17:49.560appreciate it. You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:17:57.500i'm gonna start with some bad news i'm gonna give you some good news and then i'll give you
00:18:05.360that and then i probably will give you some good news uh but let me give you let me give you some
00:18:10.340bad news we're talking about the numbers of the uh debt um and our deficit we just released some
00:18:17.380more numbers that you know were made up numbers when i was a kid we have just run a trillion
00:18:23.160dollar deficit in the first five months of this fiscal year. Now here's the good news.
00:18:29.360That's better than it was last year. So we're making some progress, but buried inside of this
00:18:37.020report is another number that should wake us all up. And that is 79 billion in the first
00:18:42.240five months, 79 billion. That's what we paid in interest, not in the first five months.
00:18:50.380we paid that uh in february 79 billion we paid in interest on our debt that is now approaching
00:19:02.54039 trillion just interest that is you know that's that's more expensive than everything
00:19:11.320except three other categories social security income security programs and health care okay
00:19:16.460any civilization that is borrowing money just to pay interest on money it already borrowed at that
00:19:24.340debt is not going to survive so let me ask you we're 39 trillion dollars in the hole
00:19:30.600we just paid 79 billion last month for just service of the debt let me ask you those numbers
00:19:37.840are so huge is your life getting better do you feel like your life is getting better is your
00:19:44.220airport in your town brand new how about your roads and bridges for all those infrastructure
00:19:49.880projects that we've done are they better how about your hospital is it new is it expanded
00:19:54.720lots of extra room you know in the hospital are your children better educated
00:20:00.220in any way shape or form we've spent 39 trillion dollars can you tell me where that money has gone
00:20:09.740to make your life better because i don't i don't see the result of it i see it in the military and
00:20:15.540that's it that's it so where's the money actually going
00:20:20.640well let's step away from the spreadsheets uh here a bit let's go just looking around poking
00:20:28.120in cities like los angeles because the answer begins to emerge and it is far uglier than most
00:20:35.960americans are even prepared to admit maybe maybe or maybe they don't care i don't know but let me
00:20:42.520start with the hospice scandal that we talked about yesterday in los angeles county this is one
00:20:47.560county investigators and journalists have now uncovered what appears to be one of the largest
00:20:53.260hospice fraud schemes in modern american history notice we're hearing it's the largest hospice
00:21:00.400It's the largest, uh, uh, uh, you know, uh, autism scheme.
00:21:07.220What, what are all of these, what are all these schemes?
00:21:11.200The largest medical scheme, hospice care, you know, I'd feel a little guilty stealing
00:21:20.020from the hospice system, you know, final chapter of life, families scatter, gather pain is
00:21:26.240eased, dignity is preserved, and you're stealing from that? Wow. Medicare pays for that. No,
00:21:35.360let me rephrase it. You pay for that, your tax dollars, and you pay for that because you have
00:21:41.260compassion. But in Los Angeles County, hundreds of hospice companies suddenly appeared almost
00:21:49.000overnight and nobody noticed. Many of them are run out of small little offices and storefronts
00:21:55.500and residential homes, like 30, 30 of these companies in one little office. Really? And
00:22:02.900they were enrolling patients who are not dying. In fact, they existed, but they didn't know they
00:22:08.060were enrolling in this. They weren't terminal. People had no idea they had been signed up for
00:22:13.580hospice at all. Once somebody is falsely enrolled in hospice, the money then begins flowing from
00:22:20.040Medicare. To whom? Where? Tens of thousands of dollars per patient. Some patients allegedly
00:22:29.200cycled through multiple fraudulent hospital providers or hospice providers, like inventory.
00:22:36.400The dying turned into billing codes. The elderly turned into profit centers.
00:23:29.680Now, let's stay in Los Angeles just for a minute because the second story is just as revealing.
00:23:35.520City of Los Angeles, again, we went from the county now to the city.
00:23:40.300They have approved $106 million to a nonprofit organization that provides legal services to tenants facing eviction.
00:23:50.760So now on the surface, helping people who can't afford legal representation sounds compassionate, right?
00:23:57.480But let's take a look a little closer.
00:24:00.000The organization receiving the money is LAFLA, the Legal Aid Foundation of Los Angeles.
00:24:08.280Over the next three years, they will receive $106,572,543.69 from the taxpayer.
00:24:21.880Lawyers connected to the same organization have repeatedly filed lawsuits that prevent the city from clearing homeless encampments, encampments that are blocking sidewalks, encampments that create unsafe conditions for residents, encampments that make companies and storefronts that are actually paying tax dollars from being able to do business, entire neighborhoods in zones of disorder.
00:24:51.880The city can't enforce its own municipal codes because the lawyers are constantly suing the city and the city is paying for those lawyers.
00:25:02.720And those lawyers are billing $1,025 an hour, $1,025 per hour, taxpayer-funded, to obstruct the taxpayer.
00:27:20.600this is deeply unsettling it should be
00:27:25.120if if what we're seeing in places like los angeles reflects the broader system then 20 maybe one-third
00:27:35.420of the federal deficit every single year may simply be because of corruption, not policy
00:27:43.220disagreements, not things that they're funding that we all think are crazy, not defense spending,
00:27:47.520not social security, corruption. It is robbery from you, the taxpayer, the quiet siphoning of
00:27:58.100money from you through programs that are meant to be compassionate, noble, necessary, until you
00:28:06.200look closely enough and see the machinery underneath. And how many people were involved
00:28:11.060for this kind of corruption to happen? How many people turned a blind eye? How many people were
00:28:16.420told, sit down, shut up, or you'll lose your job? This is the mob. And it's the moral condition
00:28:24.260required for it to continue. Hospice is stealing from the dying. Legal rackets profit from
00:28:34.800homelessness. Cities paying organizations to obstruct the enforcement of basic law and order.
00:28:43.760And what's the reaction from the public? Meh. Shrug a headline another day. What are you going
00:28:52.780to do about it got news for you republic's not going to stand with that level of indifference
00:28:58.060it can't can't corruption doesn't begin with greedy officials it begins when a society decides
00:29:04.600we don't need to look that closely when voters stop demanding answers when outrage is selective
00:29:14.240when the most vulnerable people in society do you know how poorly history is going to judge us
00:29:21.400When you have elderly patients, the homeless who are struggling, when you're stealing from the dying and they become revenue streams instead of human beings, oh my gosh, that's the real bankruptcy.
00:29:48.760most of them run out of money because they ran out of virtue first rome had corruption
00:29:56.400late stage empires always do rome's real problem was eventually the citizens just didn't care
00:30:03.220enough to stop it they were fine with the circuses and the cakes are we fine with the
00:30:07.180circuses and cakes what are the circuses that are happening in your life right now
00:30:10.820what circuses are happening that the media is pushing what circuses are you seeing
00:30:16.360on social media every day because we're all watching a circus
00:30:26.720and we're learning to live with it and we're learning to accept it as the as our treasury
00:30:34.160is being your bank account is being robbed warning a the world's largest robbery is happening right
00:30:44.520Now, it is the warning flare so big it should be able to be seen from space.
00:30:52.040If hospice fraud can flourish in the shadows, if taxpayer money can fund legal warfare against you with your money, if billions can move through programs with no accountability, then the deficit we see on paper is only part of the story.
00:31:07.980The real deficit is something harder to repair, a deficit of courage, a deficit of attention, a deficit of moral clarity.
00:31:16.700And unless we rediscover those things really soon, gang, the most dangerous line in the federal budget will not be the interest payments.
00:31:26.000It will be that silent line item that's been growing for decades.
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00:31:40.880All right. So we are having a special next week. You do not want to miss it. It's happening a week
00:31:46.500from tonight. Write this down on your calendar. Make a note of it on your phone. Just don't miss
00:31:52.140it. It's a week from tonight on glenbeck.com slash torch. And it is the blueprints of the
00:32:00.780destruction of the west the islamic blueprints for the destruction of the west um and we take
00:32:07.440you through it and we have all kinds of experts we have done literally probably what three or four
00:32:11.460months worth of research just for this 90 minute special it's a live documentary um and uh we have
00:32:19.540really tried to up our game you know he was doing these weekly specials and then we could get them
00:32:24.900really good but we couldn't get them exactly right because we just never had the time because
00:32:30.340we were churning them out, you know, every week. And I wanted to take a deeper look so I could go
00:32:36.720what we call internally a deep dive on certain subjects. And so this first deep dive is on the
00:32:43.700blueprints of how Islam is planning on taking over. The Islamists are planning on Sharia law
00:32:50.460throughout the world. And America is a prime target. Remember, we're the great Satan.
00:32:55.480um let me you know let me hear let me give you this here is a chicago um islamist
00:33:02.280um he is a islamic scholar and he is explaining why islamists are coming to america cut seven
00:33:13.740this is chicago listen islam did not come to coexist and islam is raised high and nothing
00:33:20.920is raised above islam we can't think of islam that i came to live with these other religions
00:33:25.760in the sense that islam is a religion amongst those religions and they have a share with the
00:33:30.560truth and they have a share of justice islam came to correct all of that islam came to remove all
00:33:37.540those religions and it is the only truth and it is the only way to justice now let me ask you
00:33:44.360If this were being said by a political person that is engaged in advocacy, and he was Christian, and he said Christianity is here, it's above all other religions, and it will wipe out all other religions and replace all other religions, and that is why Christians are here in America, to destroy and correct all other religions.
00:34:12.960Do you think the media would be on it?
00:34:17.640Do you think the media would be on it?