The Glenn Beck Program - Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Sen. Mike Lee & AG Ken Paxton ｜ 1⧸29⧸24

00:00:00.000 I think we hashed out a lot today.

00:00:01.300 I think we fixed the world's problems.

00:00:04.040 Yeah, and we do that every day, but then they keep popping up.

00:00:06.720 Like, new ones keep popping up in between.

00:00:08.320 It is really annoying.

00:00:09.580 We are here to fix it and stop screwing it up, okay?

00:00:13.940 Just stop touching our stuff.

00:00:15.200 Yeah.

00:00:15.580 You know?

00:00:15.920 Right.

00:00:16.140 And by our stuff, I mean, okay.

00:00:19.600 So, yes, we sound a little like the people in Davos, but we're smarter than they are.

00:00:24.460 So, we'll not only control you, but also them.

00:00:27.760 We wouldn't have a problem, Stu, and I think you agree with me.

00:00:30.500 We wouldn't have a problem with all these people, right?

00:00:32.520 If there weren't any people.

00:00:33.940 Right.

00:00:34.400 I mean, just us?

00:00:35.780 That's good.

00:00:36.300 Yeah, we can run this thing.

00:00:37.640 You get the Southern Hemisphere, I'll get the Northern Hemisphere.

00:00:40.400 Or vice versa.

00:00:41.700 And then we'll go to war about the equator.

00:00:44.660 Right?

00:00:45.120 Like, you know, the Galapagos Islands.

00:00:47.060 We're going to have troops all over that thing. 0.99

00:00:48.680 I'm like, six months.

00:00:49.680 It'll be great.

00:00:50.120 Absolutely.

00:00:50.440 But it'll be your fault, because I'll have found out that your half of the world has been 0.87

00:00:55.680 sending money to the turtles on the island.

00:00:57.860 That's right.

00:00:58.500 You know?

00:00:58.900 And then it starts.

00:00:59.640 Six billion dollars.

00:01:01.000 See, you just couldn't do it.

00:01:02.500 You couldn't stop yourself, could you?

00:01:05.000 So, we talk a little bit about the border, about war.

00:01:08.740 What else is on there, Stu?

00:01:10.000 We talk a little bit about the games.

00:01:11.620 Yeah.

00:01:12.020 That happened over the weekend.

00:01:13.480 Oh, the NFL games.

00:01:14.480 Oh, my gosh.

00:01:15.100 And Karen Jean-Pierre.

00:01:17.800 Some more brilliance from her.

00:01:19.560 No, she is great.

00:01:21.220 She is really smart.

00:01:22.360 She does a good job.

00:01:23.340 Yeah.

00:01:23.700 We have Mike Lee on with us as well today, so you don't want to miss a second of today's

00:01:29.340 broadcast.

00:01:30.520 And it begins in just a second.

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00:03:07.320 From CNN.

00:03:08.680 President Joe Biden is embracing tougher border measures, including shutting down the U.S.-Mexico

00:03:17.140 border, marking a stark shift from his early days in office as he tries to fend off former

00:03:23.440 President Donald Trump's attacks on immigration policy.

00:03:27.760 Hours after Speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, warned on Friday that the emerging border deal

00:03:34.420 in the Senate was dead on arrival, Biden offered this message to House Republicans.

00:03:40.900 CNN translates, securing the border through these negotiations is a win for America.

00:03:49.640 For everyone who is demanding tougher border control, this is the way to do it.

00:03:56.700 If you are serious about the border crisis, pass a bipartisan bill and I will sign it.

00:04:03.240 Now, CNN goes on to explain over the course of his administration, Biden has leaned on more

00:04:12.540 restrictive measures to try to stem the flow of migration.

00:04:17.340 Which administration is this?

00:04:18.400 I'm sorry.

00:04:18.860 What is he?

00:04:19.560 What?

00:04:20.360 But Friday's statement revealed a tougher stance as the president tries to control the issue

00:04:25.160 that's dogged him.

00:04:26.420 Is he too tough on the border?

00:04:28.640 He's almost too tough.

00:04:29.200 I think he might be too tough.

00:04:30.660 Well, I have worked all weekend long on a bipartisan bill.

00:04:35.280 Okay?

00:04:35.500 Okay.

00:04:35.980 Now, I'm going to do something that the politicians won't.

00:04:39.300 I'm going to show it to America and then we could debate and discuss it.

00:04:43.480 Not sure about that tactic.

00:04:44.720 Seems erratic.

00:04:45.840 So, here it is.

00:04:46.660 Now, listen carefully.

00:04:48.860 I've written it down and I'm waiting for the president's signature.

00:04:53.400 It just says, we will enforce all federal laws at all borders at all times.

00:05:03.380 And then he just puts the signature there.

00:05:06.140 Wow.

00:05:06.740 Yeah.

00:05:07.520 So, we can debate.

00:05:08.880 We can debate.

00:05:09.520 Is it too much?

00:05:11.000 Is it too little?

00:05:12.080 Is there any pork in there that you see?

00:05:14.880 Right.

00:05:15.140 Well, what if we just don't do it on the southern border?

00:05:17.760 You said all borders.

00:05:18.440 No, it says all borders at all times.

00:05:19.540 I know, but I'm trying to negotiate with you here, Glenn.

00:05:21.860 What about some of the times?

00:05:24.680 No, I think...

00:05:25.280 Or how about none of the times?

00:05:26.700 How about that?

00:05:27.020 No, I think he should sign this one.

00:05:29.240 How about we won't enforce all federal laws at all borders?

00:05:32.420 No, it says we will enforce right here.

00:05:34.280 I'm just trying to help you get this through.

00:05:37.060 Are you a member of the administration?

00:05:38.540 Because that's what they'll do.

00:05:39.540 After he signs it.

00:05:40.240 I'm the gang of eight.

00:05:40.940 Yeah, you're the gang of eight.

00:05:41.880 I'm the gang of eight.

00:05:42.380 I look like eight people combined and I'm the gang of eight.

00:05:44.760 Well, there it is.

00:05:45.860 So, it's now...

00:05:47.180 There has been some talk in committee.

00:05:50.920 Oh, yeah.

00:05:51.880 The committee that lives inside your head?

00:05:53.640 Yep.

00:05:54.160 There's lots of us in here.

00:05:56.820 And Bill was saying,

00:05:58.980 Well, I don't know, Mr. Beck, because...

00:06:02.400 What year is it in your head?

00:06:04.340 It's like 1824.

00:06:07.060 And I'm just looking at this and I see it signed by President Joe Biden.

00:06:12.080 And I said, Yes, sir.

00:06:13.400 And he said, But he tends not to enforce the laws.

00:06:17.740 And I said, I know that's why this is a pinky promise that says he will enforce the laws.

00:06:25.200 Right.

00:06:25.380 Okay.

00:06:25.860 I'd like to make an amendment.

00:06:27.480 So, I have an amendment I would like to offer from one of the voices in my head.

00:06:35.060 And so, he signs this one that says, you know, I'll enforce the federal laws at all borders at all times.

00:06:42.740 And then he signs this one into law.

00:06:45.500 I will actually enforce the law I just signed by Joe Biden.

00:06:51.620 I feel like we might get into a little bit of a Russian doll situation here. 0.99

00:06:55.700 Bill after bill after bill.

00:07:00.160 Right.

00:07:00.360 I think it would improve the situation.

00:07:02.140 You do.

00:07:02.740 You do.

00:07:03.080 Yeah.

00:07:03.300 So, I just don't think that, you know, that we need any of those special emergency powers, you know.

00:07:13.940 You know, NBC made me feel better.

00:07:16.300 These are just akin to the ones that were introduced during COVID.

00:07:20.940 Oh.

00:07:23.040 Oh, okay.

00:07:25.180 Oh, yeah.

00:07:26.780 Wait.

00:07:27.000 So, first of all, the laws like COVID, you mean the ones that the Biden administration fought so hard to overturn?

00:07:32.700 Why?

00:07:35.700 Because I remember Trump did put in a bunch of restrictions.

00:07:38.620 Right.

00:07:38.900 And the entire debate of the early administration was how fast he could get them removed.

00:07:44.060 Right.

00:07:44.500 And then how...

00:07:45.700 No, this is just giving them the emergency power to put those or any other kind of things that they might think of in.

00:07:54.040 And, of course, that doesn't affect people who are saying they're persecuted.

00:07:59.400 No.

00:07:59.960 No, no, no, no.

00:08:00.540 Those people can still come in.

00:08:01.300 No, they can come in.

00:08:02.040 Come on, guys.

00:08:02.240 And if you come in the front door, we just don't want you climbing through the windows.

00:08:04.860 Right.

00:08:05.300 Yeah.

00:08:05.620 So, you can come in.

00:08:06.940 By the way, you know, some would think, hey, this sounds really bad.

00:08:12.460 Some, including you-know-who, this sounds to me like a Mexican standoff.

00:08:19.320 And I was in my head going, hey, stop that language. 0.99

00:08:22.940 This is not a Mexican. 1.00

00:08:24.480 What year are you from?

00:08:26.540 I will say I want to see the animated film, Inside Out, about your head and all the different personalities in there having these arguments.

00:08:34.000 That would be good.

00:08:34.380 That would be a great sequel.

00:08:35.300 That would be good.

00:08:35.320 It would be good.

00:08:36.180 Anyway, you know, we are at a place now where the federal government, you know, at any time could say, hey, we don't appreciate it, Texas, and do more than, oh, I can't even say that.

00:08:52.940 That is so wrong of me.

00:08:53.940 My gosh, I have grown so callous that I would even suspect that Friday, the president coming out and saying, we're stopping all natural gas exportation from the United States of America for the next year, not only really pissed off our allies because they need it, but I was just about to go down this very callous road.

00:09:22.760 And I apologize in advance for thinking that that may have happened on Friday because the two states that would be punished would be Texas and Florida.

00:09:33.920 Now, to assume the president would do something like that is just to have him say, CNN would translate, I want to make things better for the people in Texas.

00:09:48.660 That's why I'm going to shut down 30% of all of America's supply just coming out of Texas.

00:09:56.500 I think I could have felt targeted by the president, but I don't think that's what he's doing at all.

00:10:03.140 Always looking out for the best for all of us.

00:10:06.820 Thank you.

00:10:07.260 That's the Joe Biden way.

00:10:08.900 I think people believe that.

00:10:10.900 So, you know, he's got border patrol that he commands.

00:10:14.900 He commands.

00:10:15.820 And then we have Greg Abbott, who he commands the National Guard.

00:10:21.000 And then we have the president says, no, I'm the leader of the National Guard.

00:10:26.860 And so he said, I'm going to federalize him.

00:10:30.000 And if he federalizes them, then, and this is a really great place.

00:10:35.300 Soldiers love this when they're like, um, okay, I'm kind of in the middle of this.

00:10:43.660 And I kind of agree with this guy.

00:10:48.740 Doesn't matter which guy.

00:10:50.160 I kind of agree with this guy.

00:10:52.420 So I think I'm not going to do what the other guy tells me to do.

00:10:58.400 Soldiers love ambiguity.

00:11:01.020 They love it.

00:11:02.100 It's very important for a military.

00:11:03.360 It really is great.

00:11:04.520 You got to make sure you have different orders from different people and letting them decide individually.

00:11:09.300 And then, well, they can't decide, you know.

00:11:11.740 If they decide, well, then they should be tried.

00:11:15.580 You know, and it's like the Border Patrol.

00:11:17.460 You know, the Border Patrol.

00:11:19.100 Are you going to shoot the Texas National Guard or the Texas law enforcement?

00:11:26.480 Especially since you guys really agree. 0.67

00:11:28.320 In fact, they came out.

00:11:29.620 Rank and file Border Patrol agents are not going to start arresting Texas National Guard members for following their lawful orders.

00:11:37.720 That's fake news.

00:11:38.740 Texas National Guard and rank and file BP agents work together and respect each other's jobs, period.

00:11:45.600 The Texas National Guard members have lawful orders, and they have to carry out those orders.

00:11:50.620 So the rank and file of the Border Patrol is kind of on the side of Texas.

00:11:56.080 Hmm.

00:11:56.580 Uh-oh.

00:11:57.080 So this is where that crazy ambiguity thing happens.

00:12:00.300 It's so fun.

00:12:01.380 It's so fun.

00:12:01.960 Well, you know, if you wanted direct orders, you know, and you wanted this to be so much better for yourself, all you have to do is stop whipping migrants on horseback. 0.66

00:12:11.920 And, you know, that's such a huge problem.

00:12:14.180 And you know what?

00:12:14.680 The Texas Border Patrol, they appreciated that.

00:12:17.800 They appreciated when the president came out and said, hey, God, now, horse, you're slim like slavery.

00:12:24.240 What I like, too, is how they, after it was proven without a shadow of a doubt that it didn't happen, they didn't bother correcting it.

00:12:30.220 No.

00:12:30.320 And I think that's important for a military's morale.

00:12:32.960 No.

00:12:33.140 I didn't want to MAGA, MAGA, MAGA.

00:12:36.900 MAGA extremists? 0.53

00:12:37.740 Is that what you said, Mr. President?

00:12:38.620 MAGA extremists? 0.53

00:12:40.080 Oh, sorry.

00:12:40.980 Ultra MAGA extremists.

00:12:42.940 I'm sorry.

00:12:43.480 It's like the marketing isn't working on new MAGA.

00:12:48.480 Right.

00:12:49.000 Ultra MAGA.

00:12:50.460 Super, super huge, scary MAGA.

00:12:53.140 Yeah.

00:12:53.560 Like, it didn't work when just saying they were MAGA, and then it didn't work when they said it was MAGA extremists.

00:12:57.660 Now it's ultra MAGA extremists.

00:12:59.520 And then it's going to be-

00:13:00.140 Ultra MAGA extremists.

00:13:01.540 Now with ESG.

00:13:04.840 Yeah.

00:13:05.360 Is that like MSG?

00:13:06.800 Kind of.

00:13:07.700 Not quite.

00:13:08.200 We're going to go to ultra MAGA mega Doppler extremists.

00:13:13.480 Very soon.

00:13:14.340 It's great.

00:13:14.560 And then we just keep upping it from there.

00:13:16.260 Extra spicy MAGA.

00:13:17.920 It's like what they do with global warming, right?

00:13:19.720 Like, they come out and they say, well, in 50 years, this could happen.

00:13:22.820 And then when people are like, okay, tell me, get in touch with me in 49 years.

00:13:28.120 And they're like, oh, it's actually happening right now.

00:13:29.820 It's worse than ever.

00:13:31.600 Do you believe that?

00:13:33.340 No.

00:13:34.620 Oh, my God.

00:13:35.080 It happened last week.

00:13:37.220 Time to go.

00:13:37.880 Now, this is the best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:13:48.480 Attorney General Ken Paxton joins us now.

00:13:50.900 Hello, Ken.

00:13:51.600 How are you?

00:13:52.160 Thank you.

00:13:52.840 I'm well.

00:13:53.420 Good morning.

00:13:53.980 Good morning.

00:13:54.340 So, I just have to say, I read your letter to the General Counsel of the U.S. Department

00:14:05.540 of Homeland Security, and I thoroughly enjoyed it.

00:14:10.180 This particular paragraph, I would like to quote, you are talking to a man who the Department

00:14:19.740 of Homeland Security and the federal government has said, we have government land, and you're

00:14:24.940 not letting us use and access our government land so we can get down to the river.

00:14:30.340 You said, second, you say the United States acquired a perpetual easement from the city of

00:14:35.760 Eagle Pass in 2018.

00:14:37.020 What I said last week about the 2015 MOA, I'll say again now about your latest claim.

00:14:43.420 Quote, Texas never approved that transaction as required by Article 4, Section 10 of the

00:14:49.100 Texas Constitution.

00:14:50.940 Your federal agency cannot have something that it was not the city's right to give.

00:14:57.580 You are invited to read that document here, and you hyperlink to the Constitution.

00:15:02.480 But even if the 2015 MOA were somehow valid, you're not seeking access consistent with its

00:15:09.740 terms.

00:15:10.780 The non-exclusive easement from 2018 is attached for your convenience.

00:15:17.220 Its express purpose is to allow maintenance of a road along the river, including the right

00:15:22.400 to trim trees or other obstacles within the roadway.

00:15:26.540 Elsewhere, the 2018 easement prohibits the United States from making any permanent improvements

00:15:31.760 other than roadway without written city approval.

00:15:35.720 If your federal agency wishes to help municipal officials with tree trimming and road maintenance

00:15:41.900 stores, I suspect they would appreciate the help.

00:15:45.520 The 2018 easement, however, nowhere contemplates allowing the federal government to deploy infrastructure

00:15:52.160 that President Biden will use to wave thousands of illegal aliens into a park that will continue 0.90

00:15:58.140 to be and used and enjoyed for recreational events.

00:16:03.320 I, I, I found your clarity enjoyable.

00:16:09.620 Me too.

00:16:10.680 Yeah.

00:16:11.060 Yeah.

00:16:11.720 I mean, it's just, it's not complicated and they keep misstating what actually is true.

00:16:18.120 And you know that about the border and then about this particular case, because the law

00:16:23.080 and the facts do not back them up.

00:16:26.280 And so they make unfounded claims about how it's their property and how they have an agreement

00:16:30.860 with a city that's obviously not based in, in any fact.

00:16:35.960 So anyway, it's, it's, it's the way they operate and how they've operated for three and

00:16:40.020 a half years.

00:16:40.400 And we're going to hope that the electorate gets it and realizes how bad this is.

00:16:45.100 So, um, there's been people that saying that, um, none of this constitutional stuff was argued

00:16:54.400 with the last case that was in front of the Supreme court.

00:16:57.060 And if I'm not mistaken, that's true.

00:16:59.620 You're, you're arguing an invasion backed up by eight different letters given to the president.

00:17:05.920 He ignored all eight of them.

00:17:07.360 Um, this is, this is an attempt, I think, to get them into the Supreme court.

00:17:14.860 Is it not?

00:17:16.660 Yes.

00:17:17.160 So, you know, it was what, 10, 12 years ago that Obama sued Arizona over their law, which

00:17:24.460 tried to protect Arizona and Roberts and Kennedy.

00:17:27.480 And the three liberal judges came in and said, that's, you know, it's preempted by federal

00:17:31.740 law, but it is true also that we've seen a very different border than we've ever seen.

00:17:36.560 And the consequences of that decision has had a dramatically negative impact on the country.

00:17:41.640 I don't even know if you can measure it both socially and economically, but it's also true

00:17:45.600 that it wasn't argued that there was an invasion.

00:17:48.320 So this is a different argument in front of a very different court.

00:17:51.820 And we're hopeful that we can get at least the five justices that are not Roberts and

00:17:56.880 maybe even Roberts, if he starts realizing how bad that decision was.

00:18:02.160 So the, I mean, you have a, the only case that I think that they could make, uh, that

00:18:08.300 the American people would understand is, well, this is not an invasion.

00:18:11.700 That's not what the constitution meant by invasion.

00:18:15.360 And we could argue that point all day long and win a thousand times.

00:18:19.380 Um, however, you're not the only one saying it now you have 25, uh, uh, governors saying

00:18:26.280 it and the state of Mexico is now saying that they fear there's an invasion of their company

00:18:34.680 or country coming in from the Southern border, their Southern border.

00:18:39.280 Well, you're right.

00:18:40.140 There's more people saying more recognizing as becoming common knowledge and common

00:18:44.360 understanding.

00:18:44.960 It's also true.

00:18:46.220 I don't think that any of these, uh, states would have joined the confederation or they

00:18:51.060 were signed under the constitution.

00:18:52.740 And I don't think Texas surely at that time would have signed on if they, if they believed

00:18:58.140 that the federal government could pass laws about people coming across the border and then

00:19:04.440 somehow not enforce those laws.

00:19:05.980 And then the state would be prohibited from defending their borders and they would have

00:19:10.900 to allow all kinds of crime and who knows who can coming across the border, including

00:19:16.500 terrorists. 0.53

00:19:17.240 I cannot believe that was the understanding of the time.

00:19:19.840 So it's, it's, it's difficult for me to believe that's what the founders meant.

00:19:24.080 And that's what really matters is what did the founders envision?

00:19:27.120 So I want to go back to this because Ken Cuccinelli and others have said Paxton and Abbott are not

00:19:34.780 asserting the invasion clause in the border fence case.

00:19:37.920 They did in the Bowie case, but not this one.

00:19:41.740 This is separate, correct?

00:19:45.240 Yes.

00:19:45.520 There's separate cases.

00:19:46.940 The one, we were sued by the federal government.

00:19:49.480 The other, we sued the federal government.

00:19:51.860 So we had different arguments for different cases.

00:19:54.800 We've made the invasion argument.

00:19:56.840 The governor has declared an invasion.

00:19:59.360 You can quibble over how we use it, when we use it.

00:20:02.140 I guess if Ken wanted to write the briefs, he could come in and try to help us.

00:20:06.100 But the reality is, you know, we've got a pretty good team that's been pretty successful

00:20:09.980 in spite of administration.

00:20:11.020 So I guess you can always say, well, they're not perfect.

00:20:12.760 They don't get a hundred percent of the wins, but guess what?

00:20:15.160 We don't get, we don't decide the cases either.

00:20:17.040 So I don't necessarily think that, you know, if Ken had the pen on every case that he'd get

00:20:22.480 it all right either, or that we'd necessarily agree with him on every particular point.

00:20:27.040 And it does, but it's my, and excuse me, I'm, I'm way, way out of my league on this one.

00:20:35.100 But it seems to me that this is something entirely new.

00:20:40.260 What happened last week after the decision that this is entirely new and you're trying

00:20:46.980 to either get the government to sue you or you in a place where you have to sue the government.

00:20:53.220 So this is entirely separate, is it not?

00:20:56.440 That's correct.

00:20:57.160 And we also have another law going into effect.

00:20:59.700 So we get the Buies case, we get the concertina wire case, which is still going despite the

00:21:03.920 fact that the Supreme court stopped the injunction.

00:21:07.040 We still have that case going in the fifth circuit.

00:21:09.280 We also have, we're going to have, we've already been sued by the federal government and the ACLU

00:21:13.360 over a law that was passed, that goes into effect, passed by the legislature, state legislature

00:21:17.980 goes into effect, I think March 5th.

00:21:20.620 And it says that Texas can start deporting on its own.

00:21:24.320 So that all of the, all of these cases are going to be opportunities for us to make the

00:21:28.600 argument, Hey, we're being invaded.

00:21:30.500 Hey, this decision that you made in the past cannot be right.

00:21:34.620 Given the consequences to our state, the federal government shouldn't be able to pass laws,

00:21:38.300 then not enforce them and not, not, not enforce them.

00:21:41.220 They're, they're actually aiding and abetting the cartels.

00:21:43.620 They can't be allowed to help the cartels.

00:21:45.960 And then we have to sit on the sideline and suffer the terrible consequences of that decision.

00:21:51.180 Ken, what happens if the president says, uh, I'm going to federalize the national guard.

00:22:00.380 So he, he has the right to do it.

00:22:02.360 There's a, obviously I think that's a bad decision.

00:22:05.680 I think it's also a bad decision for his election chances because his numbers on the immigration

00:22:11.700 issue have, are not good.

00:22:14.240 And he, if he takes over our national guard and makes it even harder for us to protect

00:22:19.800 the border, then I think that hurts, it hurts him in the upcoming election.

00:22:24.620 So he's got to make a choice here.

00:22:26.480 Uh, does he want to continue to damage his reputation and his, uh, standing on the immigration

00:22:31.600 issue or is he going to go forward with this policy that he has for the last three and

00:22:36.100 a half years, which is dismantle every law that we have in place and help the cartels

00:22:40.720 accomplish their goals of getting as many people here as possible and, um, building their network

00:22:46.400 in our country.

00:22:47.540 And he would probably have to nationalize the national guard for 25 different states because

00:22:54.680 they're sending their national guard, right?

00:22:56.980 Yeah.

00:22:57.200 So every state that sends a national guard, I would assume, I mean, that he would have

00:23:01.140 to take them too.

00:23:02.060 So it's going to be very confrontational.

00:23:04.580 It's going to be very directed at the states and it's going to be very directed at helping

00:23:09.440 the cartels continue their operations on the border.

00:23:11.620 Do you think the LNG decision that came out, uh, this, uh, this weekend about, uh, natural

00:23:18.560 gas sales being curbed for overseas for the next year, do you think that was directed to Texas?

00:23:24.280 Oh, I have no doubt that there was at least a side, uh, side part of it.

00:23:29.540 They, you know, obviously they don't like any fossil fuels, even if they are clean burning

00:23:33.800 fossil fuels, they have, uh, they've enriched many people doing all this alternative stuff

00:23:38.940 that doesn't, it doesn't work yet.

00:23:40.500 At least not, it's not, it's not affordable for most, most Americans.

00:23:44.720 So, but there's no doubt in my mind, they were like probably enjoying the fact that it would

00:23:48.940 hurt the Texas, Texas economy.

00:23:50.480 But I also think that's what the border is about.

00:23:52.160 They want to, not only is it about voting, that's the long, long term thing, but the

00:23:55.600 other part of what they're doing is they're bringing people into our state so that we have 0.98

00:24:00.560 higher costs.

00:24:02.120 We have law enforcement costs, healthcare costs, we have education costs, and they know that

00:24:07.720 and they know that the Republican states have been successful versus the Democratic states.

00:24:11.600 And that's proven by people voting with their feet.

00:24:14.360 And I think they've, they're doing their best to damage and harm in any way possible, even

00:24:19.360 if it means higher crime, the Republican states.

00:24:22.920 So can, this is crazy conversation we're having.

00:24:27.040 It is.

00:24:27.760 It's hard to believe I'm saying this.

00:24:29.420 It sounds so conspiratorial, but I don't have to, I can see what they're doing.

00:24:33.640 It's not like a secret.

00:24:34.920 It's all out in the open.

00:24:36.080 So for me to say that, I'm just commenting on nothing secret.

00:24:40.380 I'm commenting on what I see.

00:24:42.460 And it's pretty obvious this hurts our state.

00:24:44.940 It's pretty obvious they're, they're bringing these people in because they want them to vote

00:24:48.320 and they want to be able to use them in their congressional drawing.

00:24:50.500 And it's pretty obvious that they know this will, that they'll bring these people to Republican

00:24:54.800 states and they'll hurt the Republican states. 0.99

00:24:56.600 So Friday, there was this moment when the president said, you have 24 hours, uh, that it sounded

00:25:04.600 like, wait, 24 hours for what?

00:25:07.700 Um, and giving people the, I mean, we were entering times, if things go awry and like, God help

00:25:16.420 us, I don't want this.

00:25:18.260 But if things go awry, you're going to have the ambiguity of, wait, do I answer that law

00:25:24.580 or this law?

00:25:26.080 And it's, I mean, this is what a constitutional crisis looks like.

00:25:30.820 Um, do you, have you guys talked about that being a real possibility that he does something 0.69

00:25:38.320 really foolish that causes real trouble? 0.62

00:25:44.420 Yeah. 0.98

00:25:45.020 I mean, we've certainly talked about it.

00:25:46.680 We certainly thought about it.

00:25:47.780 It's, it's hard to imagine that he would somehow try to create some armed violent conflict.

00:25:54.800 That certainly doesn't make a lot of sense.

00:25:57.140 If you, and if you think about it, people on the board, the border patrol agents, they're

00:26:00.840 on our side.

00:26:01.540 They don't, they don't like what Biden's doing.

00:26:03.500 None of those people, they're all, they're all working together.

00:26:05.700 They're all friends.

00:26:06.380 They know each other, whether they're national guard, state police, border patrol, they all

00:26:10.960 have the same goal.

00:26:11.900 They're just being forced by Mayorkas and Biden to not just ignore the law, but to, as I said,

00:26:18.940 it's not, it's more than ignoring the law.

00:26:20.580 It is actually dismantling it and telling the cartels, we'll help you.

00:26:25.900 Don't worry about hiding people anymore.

00:26:27.960 That's the way, you know, they used to try to sneak across. 0.52

00:26:29.820 Now it's like, we just bring as many people as you can.

00:26:32.260 We'll make it very efficient for you.

00:26:33.880 So, you know, they're making 10 to $12,000 a person.

00:26:36.560 So it's very helpful to the cartels now, the Biden administration doing this.

00:26:39.620 And they know that.

00:26:40.280 And that's why they're incentivized to get it, to get as many people here as possible.

00:26:44.100 What do you think of the, uh, the trucker convoy?

00:26:47.940 Is that helpful?

00:26:50.120 Oh, I'd love to see the border shut down.

00:26:52.320 I mean, the reality is anything that makes Biden blink and stop doing this and economic

00:26:58.500 consequences when things are not being shipped back and forth have an economic consequence.

00:27:03.840 And I mean, that's why we do economic sanctions.

00:27:05.760 And if this is the only way we can stop the terribleness, I don't have a problem with anything

00:27:09.740 like that, that affects commerce and sends a message by the administration.

00:27:13.520 It's like a strike, but, um, it sends a message.

00:27:16.360 I, I, I, I worry only because, uh, you know, up in Canada, look what they tried to do to

00:27:23.860 those truckers and did, but this is in Canada.

00:27:27.500 Um, and as long as there's no infiltrators there, um, they'll be fine.

00:27:32.860 But again, this is in Canada.

00:27:34.780 The law enforcement will not be looking to pick a fight with the truckers.

00:27:40.860 They will actually, I think, be more in line with, if there is somebody out of line, they'll

00:27:46.480 arrest them quickly, but not necessarily blame it on the truckers unless the truckers were

00:27:50.660 doing it.

00:27:51.340 But I doubt that.

00:27:52.500 Right.

00:27:52.820 No, I agree with you.

00:27:53.500 I don't think we have the same mentality as the Canadians. 0.99

00:27:56.140 And, you know, I might say we, I'm sure the Biden administration does.

00:28:00.100 They're, they're in line with the Canadian government.

00:28:02.540 There's no doubt about that.

00:28:03.220 But I'm saying in general, law enforcement is not sympathetic to federal law being violated

00:28:08.340 and the cartels being enriched and helped.

00:28:12.980 What are you, um, what are you saying to the other 25 states?

00:28:16.600 And is there a chance any of the others, like Denver just said, we, we, we, we're out.

00:28:22.240 We, we have nothing.

00:28:23.100 We can't, you got to get out of our homeless shelters because we can't afford to keep this.

00:28:27.880 Are, are any of the other states possible on joining?

00:28:33.000 Yeah.

00:28:33.580 Look, I think this is going past Republican Democrat.

00:28:36.620 You can see, you know, these sanctuary cities were created during the Trump administration

00:28:39.820 to complain about Trump's, uh, immigration, enforcing immigration law.

00:28:44.800 Then when Biden came in, all suddenly they get, they started getting a trickle.

00:28:49.080 I say trickle compared to what we have to deal with.

00:28:51.280 And suddenly they're realizing, wow, this is really expensive and it has high costs, both

00:28:55.420 economically and socially.

00:28:56.480 And they realize this is not a good thing for our city.

00:29:00.660 And I think you're going to see more and more cities because they, they literally just not

00:29:04.100 enough money to pay for the entire cost of millions and millions of people moving into

00:29:11.200 our country.

00:29:11.700 And we're all going to be suffering for this for a long time.

00:29:14.400 And I think this hurts Biden in the upcoming election.

00:29:17.560 It hurts the country for obviously much longer than that.

00:29:20.220 I know you don't have any of the details.

00:29:21.780 Nobody does.

00:29:22.480 That's always a special surprise in these things, but the bipartisan, uh,

00:29:26.460 bill that Biden is trying to get through any thoughts on that.

00:29:31.640 I'm very suspicious.

00:29:33.100 I don't want to give in and start allowing people in, in violation of our current laws.

00:29:37.220 That doesn't solve the problem.

00:29:38.720 It just supposedly you get a deal for something that actually hurts the country.

00:29:43.040 So I'm not for, I'm not, I'm not against immigration, but let's make sure that it makes 1.00

00:29:48.020 sense.

00:29:48.360 And we're not caving because the Biden administration has violated the laws for the last three and

00:29:52.760 a half years.

00:29:53.260 And we're going to say, well, because he's letting in, you know, millions a year, we're

00:29:58.280 going to just say, can only let in a million.

00:29:59.920 Well, that's not the way to answer this.

00:30:01.700 They should follow federal law.

00:30:03.180 And if they want to change the law, make it something that's good for America.

00:30:07.100 Make it something that's, that makes the system more efficient.

00:30:10.440 Ken Paxton, the Texas attorney general on Texas constitutional right to protect its border.

00:30:17.520 Ken, Godspeed.

00:30:19.420 Stay safe.

00:30:19.960 Thank you.

00:30:21.280 Thank you.

00:30:21.880 Have a great day.

00:30:22.400 All right.

00:30:23.720 The best of the Glenn Beck program.

00:30:28.320 Now we've asked Mike Lee to tone it down just a little bit to come on the program and

00:30:32.660 had to remind him that he is on an FCC regulated broadcast.

00:30:36.840 Senator Mike Lee, how are you, sir?

00:30:39.240 I'm doing great.

00:30:40.360 And I'm a party animal.

00:30:42.980 Describe me to your guests.

00:30:44.260 Yeah, absolutely.

00:30:45.360 Yeah.

00:30:45.660 It's almost uncomfortable when you say that.

00:30:48.120 So I'd request that you don't say party animal again.

00:30:51.440 I'll be careful.

00:30:52.440 I'll be careful.

00:30:53.440 So, Mike, I wanted to get you on because nobody knows what's in this, this deal for the border.

00:31:01.620 And I'd like to start there.

00:31:05.020 Isn't that a problem?

00:31:06.400 Well, yeah, it's especially a problem because we're already being told that Republican senators

00:31:13.180 who dislike it are just opposing it to score cheap political points at the expense of national

00:31:19.440 security.

00:31:20.300 We're told that this is a huge win for us by such, you know, Republican allies as the Washington

00:31:27.620 Post were being told all across the spectrum, you know, from Chris Murphy to Kyrsten Sinema

00:31:36.200 that this really is a clarion call for border security.

00:31:42.280 Now, if Chris Murphy had ever been on the cutting edge of those clamoring for border security

00:31:48.660 over the years, perhaps this would be easier to take it seriously.

00:31:51.800 Really?

00:31:52.680 I haven't seen it.

00:31:54.320 I haven't seen them doing that.

00:31:55.860 But more importantly, Glenn, as you point out, I haven't seen the bill.

00:31:59.500 This is one of the most frustrating things in Washington.

00:32:02.360 But I cannot emphasize enough.

00:32:04.560 Now, I know you often.

00:32:06.660 I know you like.

00:32:07.680 It's an idea.

00:32:08.320 I know you like old timey America as much as I do.

00:32:12.220 But do you remember seeing those kineoscope reels where there were debates on the floor

00:32:18.640 of the House and the Senate?

00:32:20.200 When did we stop doing those?

00:32:23.280 Was that 1940 or 1804?

00:32:25.800 When did we stop that?

00:32:27.800 Well, we stopped doing kineoscopes when we developed videotape, but that's a different

00:32:31.840 story.

00:32:32.720 But yeah, look, as far as telling the truth through the news media and the entertainment

00:32:37.740 media about what happens in Washington and trying to have a degree of objectivity, it's

00:32:43.960 hard to find these days.

00:32:46.100 Because it seems like so often those who are wanting to tell the story are wanting to tell

00:32:50.980 it from one angle and not necessarily give the whole picture and not necessarily give

00:32:55.820 a lot of detail in general.

00:32:58.780 And so that's kind of concerning.

00:33:01.660 And then it gets more concerning.

00:33:03.140 The more complex the bill gets, this one that they're talking about is pretty darn complicated.

00:33:08.000 Now, why would it be?

00:33:09.320 I wrote one earlier today that you could please introduce.

00:33:14.040 It just says, we will enforce all federal laws at all borders at all times.

00:33:19.200 And then just he could just sign that.

00:33:20.960 It doesn't seem like it has to be very complex and include, quote, emergency powers.

00:33:28.980 Yeah, I'm a little skeptical of giving emergency powers.

00:33:35.720 Yeah.

00:33:36.440 So if they were to pass the bill that you just wrote, they would add air quotes or real quotes

00:33:43.160 to all border and force emergency and powers.

00:33:49.600 And then that would leave it up to the executive branch to decide what exactly those things meant

00:33:53.760 on that particular day.

00:33:55.460 The emergency powers one is especially concerning.

00:33:57.960 Anytime you grant emergency powers to exempt out or add to the powers that you are giving

00:34:05.580 to the president, you run into a lot of problems, which is why Congress needs to start passing

00:34:10.200 real legislation rather than just sort of platitudes.

00:34:13.160 Um, then go ahead.

00:34:16.200 Well, look, this is, this is part and parcel of the problem with this bill.

00:34:20.860 It's been written in secret by two or three, maybe four people.

00:34:25.500 Nobody has seen it.

00:34:27.100 And yet, it seems like half the country or at least close to half the Senate is now saying,

00:34:33.180 yes, I want to pass it.

00:34:34.520 And these are the people who haven't read it.

00:34:36.560 That's really scary, Glenn.

00:34:38.400 It doesn't make any sense at all.

00:34:40.720 There might be some good stuff in here.

00:34:42.620 Uh, they've only told us a few minor details about it, things they've told us about, you

00:34:47.720 know, some of them seem like they could do some good, but they're offset by the fact

00:34:51.520 that they, they don't, they also contain language, um, uh, other provisions that could be abused.

00:34:59.140 And we could confirm or refute how disturbing these things are if they'd give us the bill,

00:35:04.540 but they won't give it to us.

00:35:05.880 So what happens is they give it to us at the last minute and say, you got to pass it.

00:35:09.740 Yeah.

00:35:10.240 And a lot of members fall for that.

00:35:11.960 Don't.

00:35:12.200 Uh, does this also supposedly, um, contain extra money for Ukraine?

00:35:18.700 Oh yeah.

00:35:19.700 I mean, that's the whole point of it, Glenn.

00:35:21.100 The whole point of this bill, it's a supplemental appropriations bill.

00:35:24.200 First and foremost, it's there to appropriate or spend money contains $106 billion that we're

00:35:31.260 going to spend and of that $106 billion, most of that is going to go to Ukraine.

00:35:37.000 Now, didn't Ukraine just this weekend announced that they're missing $40 billion that we gave

00:35:44.460 them.

00:35:44.760 It all went to corruption in, uh, the military and the government.

00:35:50.380 40 million, 40 billion.

00:35:52.360 Who's watching Glenn?

00:35:53.720 You know, this is where you, you channel a Vida.

00:35:56.600 The critics will claim a little of the cash has gone astray, but that's not the point.

00:36:01.080 My friend, Andrew Lloyd Webber had that, right?

00:36:03.740 Just don't worry about the details.

00:36:05.740 Don't sweat it.

00:36:06.620 Okay.

00:36:07.060 Um, yeah, this is a problem.

00:36:09.780 And also included in that Ukraine money is $11.75 billion.

00:36:16.040 It goes just to supporting the Ukrainian government.

00:36:19.800 Most of it to pay the salaries of the Ukrainian government, civil servants, and also pensions.

00:36:27.900 So this is just backfilling the, probably what is the most significant cost of their

00:36:33.380 government for an entire year.

00:36:36.680 Why does that make sense?

00:36:37.700 Now, I've asked some of my colleagues, why would we want to include that?

00:36:40.760 Still haven't seen text on this, by the way, but we're told that it's in there.

00:36:43.680 And my colleagues, to my astonishment, said, well, Mike, it's expensive to be at war.

00:36:50.600 These guys are having a tough time.

00:36:51.980 Well, yeah, no doubt.

00:36:53.660 I have no doubt about that.

00:36:55.460 But why is that our responsibility?

00:36:58.880 Look, we've given more military aid to Ukraine than any other country on Earth.

00:37:03.600 In fact, we've given more military aid to Ukraine through this conflict than every other nation

00:37:08.420 on planet Earth combined.

00:37:09.680 Why is all of this our responsibility?

00:37:13.860 Well, it is ours when we make it ours.

00:37:16.600 Yes.

00:37:16.740 And when we print the money to do so, and others don't feel like doing it.

00:37:19.640 It's that simple.

00:37:21.080 Okay.

00:37:22.100 I assume there's a lot like you that will, if this bill comes out and contains all that stuff,

00:37:29.980 that you will stand against it.

00:37:33.080 Yes, absolutely.

00:37:34.420 Okay.

00:37:34.820 The question is how money we'll have.

00:37:36.100 And one of the things that I've been saying is that it's important for Republicans to remember

00:37:41.900 that the Republican Party, the Republican Party in the Senate, we've got 49 of us.

00:37:48.240 Any subset of 41 of us could decide to hold this thing back and to make sure that it doesn't get any votes at all,

00:37:56.900 at least until such time that we're promised we'll be given enough time to read it

00:38:01.560 and enough time to amend it and vote on amendments.

00:38:04.300 We owe ourselves, each other, and the American people nothing less than that.

00:38:09.800 So let me switch gears.

00:38:12.300 We've had a nice, nice run here for a while with Iran after we gave them billions of dollars,

00:38:20.580 said that they weren't really a threat.

00:38:22.780 They helped orchestrate.

00:38:24.660 We find out now with the help of the UN, the October 7th massacre.

00:38:30.340 And now because they have been lobbing missiles or they've been using drones like this weekend,

00:38:37.120 killed three of our people, injured another 25.

00:38:39.840 Now all the hawks are saying, we got to go in.

00:38:43.740 I, I, you know, Mike, you know, me, I'm, I'm fine with using military power when we can or should use military power. 0.78

00:38:54.020 I think it's ridiculous. 0.98

00:38:55.940 Not if somebody punches the United States in the face, I'm going to punch back and break your nose. 1.00

00:39:02.380 Don't do it again. 0.97

00:39:03.520 Um, but this is not that kind of an administration.

00:39:08.680 Uh, we seem to be eager for war of some sort.

00:39:12.300 I don't think we're even choosy at this point.

00:39:14.520 Are we going to war?

00:39:15.960 There are certainly those in Washington clamoring for it and a case could be made for that.

00:39:23.020 But let me tell you what is the biggest, most troubling thing to me right now.

00:39:27.600 You've got a lot of people in at least two different branches of the federal government who are saying, go hit them now, bomb attack.

00:39:37.300 Um, my copy of the constitution says that Congress has to declare war.

00:39:42.940 The president can't just take us there on his own.

00:39:45.960 No, no, I know.

00:39:47.100 I know it's, it's, it's true.

00:39:48.900 Uh, president's commander in chief of the armed forces, uh, under article two of the constitution.

00:39:53.560 That's great.

00:39:54.660 And that's clear, but the minute we're going to undertake attack, undertake any kind of sustained

00:40:01.760 attacks, uh, on, on foreign soil, as opposed to a discreet action at one moment in order to

00:40:09.000 repel an attack on us, on our people, on our personnel, for example, it, the minute,

00:40:15.960 it goes, it goes beyond that where you're repelling immediately responding to an attack in motion.

00:40:22.540 But again, it's, it's really do need an authorization for the use of military force from Congress.

00:40:27.300 Right.

00:40:27.520 And the people who should be making that case are the ones for calling for the president

00:40:31.400 to do something.

00:40:32.240 I mean, it, it's amazing.

00:40:34.560 Um, you know, September, uh, sorry, December 7th, 1941, the very next morning, the president

00:40:42.700 was at the Capitol making the speech, December 7th, 1941, a day who shall live in infamy.

00:40:48.740 He gave that speech to a joint session so they could go back into their chambers, debate and

00:40:55.720 vote for war. 0.54

00:40:57.080 Yes or no.

00:40:58.580 I mean, that's right.

00:41:00.500 That's right.

00:41:01.500 And you didn't have members of Congress out there saying, uh, attack, attack, attack with

00:41:07.460 silence by the president.

00:41:08.560 In some ways we've got the worst of all worlds.

00:41:10.360 Uh, you know, it, it, it, it'd be helpful to have, uh, the president saying to come.

00:41:18.660 They finally did it.

00:41:20.040 They finally got him.

00:41:21.760 They took him out.

00:41:24.880 Finally silenced.

00:41:26.340 Oh yeah.

00:41:26.940 You know, who did it?

00:41:27.840 I know who did it.

00:41:28.580 You know, who did it?

00:41:29.940 Oh, those people that control the world, you know, just buying the curtain.

00:41:32.860 Yeah.

00:41:34.120 You're thinking what I'm thinking.

00:41:36.100 Well, enough party time anyway with Mike.

00:41:38.880 He is, he gets obnoxious at times.

00:41:41.160 It's like, oh, is he back on?

00:41:43.000 We have more party time with Mike.

00:41:45.860 Mike.

00:41:46.460 Hey.

00:41:47.140 Yeah.

00:41:47.440 Yeah.

00:41:47.740 So we lost you.

00:41:49.640 I think the NSA didn't like what I was saying.

00:41:52.100 Yeah.

00:41:52.240 I have a feeling.

00:41:52.860 Understandable.

00:41:53.560 So you were just saying we have the worst of both worlds now.

00:41:57.400 And I would go back.

00:42:00.040 You know, the temperature in the rooms more than I do.

00:42:03.640 Are we going to war?

00:42:04.860 I think there is a possibility of that, but it is very difficult to predict how Congress

00:42:13.660 will react when the question is finally put before Congress.

00:42:17.420 And Congress actually has to have the debates.

00:42:22.300 We typically will bring in experts from the Pentagon, the CIA, from the State Department,

00:42:29.280 other places where people study these things and give us analyses about what the war would

00:42:34.140 look like, what the strategy would be, what the cost would be in terms of both blood and

00:42:40.160 treasure and other considerations.

00:42:43.540 And at that point, we make a decision.

00:42:45.500 But, you know, there was a time back in 2013, I believe, when President Obama decided at the

00:42:54.080 time, oh, I think we should go to war in Syria. 1.00

00:42:56.980 And to his credit, he did the right thing.

00:42:59.440 And he said, I think Congress should come back and Congress should consider the matter.

00:43:03.740 And if it agrees with me, then we should have an AUMF on Syria. 1.00

00:43:08.840 Um, we came back to Washington, uh, because we're in recess and we were in recess at the

00:43:14.760 time and we studied the, the, the matter quite thoroughly.

00:43:18.480 At the end of that, um, it was, um, quite a consensus among and between members of Congress

00:43:25.260 that this was not our war.

00:43:27.880 This is not a time for us to go to war.

00:43:30.540 And so that's why I'm cautious in predicting where it's going to go.

00:43:33.500 If we do this the right way, it's very difficult to predict because war ought to be a steadied,

00:43:39.620 careful analysis.

00:43:40.940 Correct.

00:43:41.220 I understand what happened in 1941 and that made sense for them to do it as quickly as

00:43:46.400 they did that, uh, given, uh, what was at stake there, given the fact that Pearl Harbor

00:43:51.520 had been an attack, uh, on a U S territory, a very, very big one, no less.

00:43:57.660 And I don't mean to, to minimize the taxes that have been sustained on U S forces in recent

00:44:02.860 weeks, but you've got to consider every circumstance differently.

00:44:07.400 And, uh, I, I think there is a possibility of war here, but if we're going to do it, we've 0.98

00:44:12.020 got to do it the right way.

00:44:13.400 Mike Lee, as always.

00:44:14.560 Thank you, sir.

00:44:15.380 God bless you.

00:44:16.260 Appreciate it.

00:44:17.000 Thank you.

00:44:17.540 You bet.

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