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00:01:38.020 this is the glenbeck program i'm gonna read two things to you first the new york times

00:01:48.700 the new york times wrote two days before a mob of trump supporters invaded the united states

00:01:55.420 capital upending the nation's peaceful transition of power and leaving at least five people dead the

00:02:01.280 right-wing radio star glenbeck delivered a message to his flock of 10.5 million listeners

00:02:07.100 it's time to fight it's time to rip and claw and rake mr beck said on his january 4th broadcast

00:02:14.580 it's time for you to go to war as the left went to war four years ago now they updated that even

00:02:21.440 though we gave them all of this information a week before the story aired two days after publication

00:02:29.640 they updated it with this mr beck did not lobby for his listeners to invade the capital and a day later

00:02:36.680 he urged marchers in washington to channel your inner martin luther king adding violence is not

00:02:42.920 who we've ever been but the language he used on his january 4th show was typical of the aggressive

00:02:50.040 rhetoric that permeated conservative talk radio okay i mean again you specifically said not to go i know

00:02:59.540 so couldn't that why would they use you as an example it makes no sense here is the latest story

00:03:05.720 today chicago mayor laurie lightfoot set social media ablaze monday evening with a call to arms that's a

00:03:13.660 quote quote to my friends in the lgbtq plus community the supreme court is coming for us next

00:03:20.320 this moment has to be a call to arms we will not surrender our rights without a fight we will fight

00:03:27.860 a fight to victory hmm i wonder if the new york times is going to say the same about her she's calling

00:03:37.420 to arms i don't know what that means except call to guns isn't that what arms imply

00:03:47.040 but there's a double standard here the president won't will not disavow those who are

00:03:57.240 now marching in front of the supreme court justices homes which is my understanding it is clearly

00:04:06.400 illegal to do if you are trying to um intimidate or change the verdict uh of a supreme court justice

00:04:16.220 mike lee is joining us now uh from uh washington dc hello mike how are you hello great well it's good to

00:04:25.440 be with you good and you know what they did to you at the times that sounds like reckless disregard

00:04:29.800 for the truth to me actionable defamation oh really huh absolutely all right you you you told

00:04:38.860 them what you had actually said they ran the story anyway not reflecting that uh that is does it matter

00:04:45.620 that they corrected it two days later no because they still defamed you in the meantime nobody reads

00:04:51.780 the corrections like they read the original story yeah this is part of what's disgraceful is that they

00:04:56.860 get away with this so um let's talk a little bit about first of all what is happening to the supreme court

00:05:03.940 uh justices in front of their homes uh mike that's clearly illegal is it not yes it is it violates a

00:05:14.320 virginia statue it also quite arguably violates a federal statue uh 18 usc section 1503 i think it is

00:05:24.540 uh that uh would seem to suggest that this is unlawful but more than anything glenn this is just

00:05:32.080 really creepy it carries with it an implicit threat of violence because it says to the occupants of the home

00:05:40.920 where they're protesting we know where you sleep correct the only purpose it serves and if that has

00:05:47.780 no place in society you know i i actually dealt with it first time i ever dealt with this i was 11

00:05:51.800 years old uh my my father who was serving as president reagan's solicitor general at the time

00:05:56.900 uh filed a brief in a case and it dealt with an issue related to abortion related to grow versus weight

00:06:04.820 the uh abortion rights movement didn't like it so they protested in front of our home

00:06:09.680 i was the only one home at the time actually my older sister wendy was was there but she was

00:06:14.280 asleep the entire time she slept long so i went out to talk to them you know the movie home alone

00:06:19.460 hadn't come out yet it wouldn't come out for another 20 years but when i saw that movie many

00:06:23.940 years later i thought i know how that kid feels i started thinking what do i do do i break out the

00:06:29.960 illegal fireworks stash that i had from where my cousins bought on the indian reservation the summer

00:06:34.720 before do i turn on the sprinklers and it occurred to me if i did any of those things news crews would

00:06:39.720 show up that would be bad so i just went out and talked to them instead and the very first thing

00:06:45.040 the lady said to me there's a lady who appeared to be in charge of all of them we'll call her karen

00:06:49.060 and uh karen said to me well hello little boy we're not here to hurt you that's creepy and it's creepy

00:06:56.060 anytime you protest in front of the home of a public official right that's what's wrong with it and i'm

00:07:00.720 wondering if that would even be said today a lot of these protesters i mean the it's vile what's going

00:07:08.920 on just as it was vile on january 6 that that was a that was a mob uh and not everybody but the ones

00:07:17.800 that really kind of broke down the door etc etc those people were in a mob mentality and just vile

00:07:25.740 so mike yesterday without anybody condemning these people and saying it has to stop the senate voted to

00:07:34.340 pass a bill to provide security services to the supreme court justices and their families uh and it was

00:07:41.160 a unanimous vote um yes how can somebody on the left say that this isn't violent and yet vote unanimously

00:07:50.980 to provide security well if uh one of them were on the show with us and i'm sure all the lefties

00:08:00.340 come on your show constantly all the time so you can probably provide the answer i'm sure they would

00:08:05.320 say look um the potential is there we want to make sure they have safety when they need it but look

00:08:11.160 there's no reason for them to not condemn this no reason for them to not call it off it is

00:08:16.360 inappropriate i have i have yet to have this conversation with any of my colleagues republican

00:08:21.020 democrat otherwise uh who in in which they will disagree with the suggestion it's inappropriate

00:08:28.600 to show up to someone's home to protest it's not appropriate i don't know why it is they can't find

00:08:35.920 the moral courage to express publicly what i think all of them believe privately which is that that is

00:08:40.780 unacceptable that was the problem with january 6th for many of us we were like where is donald

00:08:46.340 why isn't he stepping up to the plate right now and saying this is horrible stop it right now

00:08:53.460 um let me ask you there's a bill now um going through and and at the senate and it's to codify

00:09:01.920 roe can you explain what's going on here yeah the bill moving through the senate and they want to

00:09:11.160 codify roe but it's roe on steroids it's worse than roe far worse it basically says that no state

00:09:19.980 can have any law restricting abortion in any way and guarantees abortion right up until the moment

00:09:26.720 of birth without any restriction by any other law and so this is a this is a very radical proposal

00:09:35.300 this is substantially farther to the left than what you'll see from uh any ordinary american

00:09:43.380 uh americans understand that regardless of how they feel about abortion more broadly

00:09:49.740 they understand that the closer you get to birth the closer you get to the point where a baby

00:09:56.620 could clearly survive outside the womb uh nearly all americans support some restrictions on abortion

00:10:03.180 but they want to get rid of even those this act is intended to protect all people with the capacity

00:10:09.420 for pregnancy cisgender women transgender men non-binary individuals those who identify with

00:10:16.180 a different gender and others who are unjustly harmed by restrictions on abortion services

00:10:21.780 mike i gotta believe if i were running for the senate and i was kind of in a purple state

00:10:28.320 i would be really upset at the democratic leadership if i'm running as a democrat

00:10:35.000 yeah and why wouldn't you be but look they're trying to impress a certain radical french element

00:10:43.120 of their own base and this is where they're going to do it the next step they're going to do is they're

00:10:48.140 going to try to pack the supreme court or hashtag expand the court as many of my liberal colleagues

00:10:53.600 are now using that hashtag they want to add justices to the supreme court of the united states

00:10:57.660 which is itself a huge mistake all these things are designed to delegitimize and denigrate and isolate

00:11:03.120 those supreme court justices inclined to vote for justice alito's masterfully written majority opinion

00:11:08.940 mike you were part of the crew that uh you were a leader in the crew to find these supreme court justices

00:11:17.080 um they're saying now that it looks like this is going to be the filing rule uh ruling do you believe

00:11:23.840 that yes i i do believe that and i also believe that the reason these people are freaking out so much

00:11:31.260 is that they're um uh they're afraid of the same thing and so that's why i think if this does in fact

00:11:39.460 happen the pivot will happen very very quickly and they'll move on to saying this is an illegitimate

00:11:44.860 court so we're gonna have to change it we haven't seen this since 1937 uh it's why i started seeing

00:11:50.360 this coming about a year and a half ago that's why i started writing the book that comes out june 7th

00:11:54.920 available for pre-order now called saving nine saving nine explains what happened last time they did this

00:11:59.560 how we stop it and why it's such a horrible idea it's a um it is a book that is right on time

00:12:06.480 called saving nine and very good um mike the um the the bill that they are trying to pass let's just

00:12:16.600 live in fantasy land say we say that it passes okay isn't that still what the supreme court was saying

00:12:25.400 shouldn't be done that it should go to the states it's not a federal issue

00:12:30.340 uh yes so the supreme court draft majority opinion written by justice alito said that these are the

00:12:39.780 sorts of decisions that ought to be made by the people's elected lawmakers uh and not by nine

00:12:46.980 lawyers wearing robes on the supreme court of the united states for the simple reason that

00:12:51.400 there's nothing in the constitution that makes this something that the courts decide nothing in

00:12:57.380 the constitution that even makes this federal rather than state now there are some places for

00:13:02.140 federal law to weigh in on most areas but most laws most of the time that affect most of your day-to-day

00:13:07.400 life are state laws not federal laws so it follows logically but given that there's nothing in the

00:13:13.760 constitution making abortion distinctly a federal issue most laws dealing with abortion should be

00:13:18.700 handled at the state level does that include if new york or california includes you know partial birth

00:13:26.800 abortion or after birth abortion uh which is now strangely being talked about in those states

00:13:33.280 does the federal government have a role in stopping any of that depending on how far congress wanted to

00:13:41.000 push the envelope congress could try to assert more authority in that area my personal view is that

00:13:46.200 uh this is one of those areas that really is perfect for the constitution for the constitutional

00:13:54.140 principle of federalism because look there there isn't a lot of national unity national consensus

00:14:00.220 on this issue right people in utah would decide this very differently than the people

00:14:05.700 of new york and people in mississippi very differently than those in the state of oregon

00:14:12.240 and you know sometimes that that is part of the constitutional compromise that's part of who we are that

00:14:18.840 is the compromise right is that we allow people to govern themselves differently according to local

00:14:24.560 preferences well mike i want to thank you for all the uh work that you did with uh donald trump and

00:14:31.900 and ted cruz to get these uh guys on the supreme court and and uh and women as well um it's because of

00:14:40.380 i think your work that we have these these people and i am hoping that when we get a republican in uh office

00:14:47.960 uh that you are appointed to the supreme court because i think you would make a tremendous

00:14:52.960 supreme court justice thank you so much mike thank you very much glenn you bet uh by the way if you

00:15:00.000 want to support mike in his uh race for senate you can do that uh by i don't know checking out i don't

00:15:07.580 know mike lee for senate or whatever the hell i don't know the the best uh the best way to point

00:15:14.120 people to his site but yes you should go look at his site and and this is an important week i think

00:15:18.500 by the way to consider that if you are a person who looks at the ruling from uh from alito and

00:15:29.100 looks at that in a positive light and say and maybe have dreamt of the day that roe versus wade would be

00:15:35.740 overturned your entire life for example it's important to highlight as you did right there at the end the

00:15:42.060 really vital role that mike lee has in this ruling he was the guy basically that's why they're coming

00:15:49.800 after him so hard right he was the guy who put together the list along with the federalist society

00:15:54.740 a couple of other people that you mentioned um but he was really the driving force to get that list

00:16:00.060 in front of donald trump that he wound up selecting from these three justices and in the office with him

00:16:06.200 campaigning for these people really trying to educate donald trump on who they were and getting

00:16:11.780 them to be the the candidate without mike lee you don't have the situation that we're looking at

00:16:17.020 this week that's how that's how crucial he's been to this process and if you care about this issue at

00:16:21.620 all you should remember that as you look at who you're voting for here in utah over the next well

00:16:29.100 you have edwin mcbuffin who's running against him who is pro-choice and so that's you know that's

00:16:33.780 one thing you'd have going for you is he pro-choice i don't even know that i guess he's pro-choice

00:16:38.080 either regardless i mean it's one of these things even if you had somebody else you were considering

00:16:42.660 like this is such a vital issue and he was so vital to it and i tell you that uh the left knows it

00:16:47.700 too bad the right doesn't know it but the left knows exactly what he's done

00:16:51.180 this is the best of the glenbeck program

00:16:57.960 so there is an opinion in the washington post and i was listening to a podcast the other day

00:17:12.520 featuring uh two hard left americans in their late 30s i won't name names but you know the type

00:17:17.880 socialist intellectuals who use terms like dissident to describe themselves the conversation mainly

00:17:24.340 centered around a few themes the kids today are too self-righteous and judgmental the democratic

00:17:29.820 democratic party is corrupt and uninspiring donald trump wasn't nearly as bad as everyone said

00:17:36.240 and i miss the good old days this uh op-ed is so worth the read today in the washington post

00:17:43.760 uh again are millennial leftists aging into right wingers uh yeah and i think there is a real pushback

00:17:52.540 and hopefully there is a pushback not to the uninspiring republican party which everybody says

00:17:59.760 the only thing we have well that's the only thing we have because nobody's doing anything about it

00:18:05.740 except for the freedom caucus freedom caucus is inside the democratic party just like the progressive

00:18:13.940 caucus was inside the democratic party and this is the antidote to the progressive uh

00:18:22.500 disease and um and i and i just hope that it is spreading all over the country because we need

00:18:30.720 people that will stand together in the shade of the constitution andrew roth is the president of the

00:18:38.960 state freedom caucus network he is trying to create more freedom caucuses all around the country and he is

00:18:46.660 with us now hi andrew how are you hey thanks for having me glenn you bet you just started one in

00:18:52.820 nevada and south carolina right uh and just last week in illinois we've got five total um georgia

00:19:00.200 mississippi south carolina nevada and illinois our plan is to launch another five to seven this year so we can

00:19:08.260 have maybe 10 to 12 uh total going into the the new year okay so what um what does the freedom caucus

00:19:16.460 so for people that don't know what does it stand for uh and what are you looking for well hopefully

00:19:24.940 your listeners know about the house freedom caucus and we are operating uh under their blessing and under

00:19:30.620 their auspices and they believe in limited government um more freedom both economic freedom and cultural

00:19:37.700 freedom from the the woke left um and they have made great strides in the halls of congress but

00:19:45.940 if we're going to take back this country they recognized as do a lot of people that the fight

00:19:51.700 is at the state level now there are all these big issues that need to be won at the state level whether

00:19:57.800 it's election integrity school choice crt the list goes on right uh so so we need to organize at the

00:20:05.840 state level and um i'll confess like a lot of people don't know who their state senator is or their

00:20:12.540 state rep and there is a lot of mischief and a lot of corruption happening at the state level but the

00:20:18.720 good news is is that there are a few conservatives in each legislature who we can help organize by

00:20:26.100 bringing them resources and and expertise that we have to create these state freedom caucuses so that's

00:20:32.620 what we're doing and i'll tell you what it's it's an exciting project and and we're going to change

00:20:37.820 things around as quickly as we can i will tell you the what i've seen traveling around and talking to

00:20:43.340 the different state legislatures there seems when without the freedom caucus there seems to be a group of

00:20:51.080 people that uh are uh angry and can't work within the system uh and you understand it because in some of

00:21:01.520 those states the system is so corrupt on both sides um but there's got to be an organizing factor that

00:21:08.920 can get things done uh and i think that's what you guys are doing in in washington and you're to me

00:21:16.520 this is the answer the answer is coming right now from the freedom caucus which is don't play the game

00:21:25.300 on either side just let's return the power to the people that's exactly right and these state lawmakers

00:21:34.220 i mean just think about it everything is working against them um first of all they're they're citizen

00:21:39.820 lawmakers you know they've all got full-time jobs or at least most of them do so they're either busy

00:21:45.540 you know harvesting the crops or or you know doing their nine-to-five job and they're taking time out

00:21:51.500 of their busy life to go to the capitol and be a representative which means they don't have a lot

00:21:57.580 of time uh to read the bills to understand how things work so the establishment already has them

00:22:04.080 under their thumb plus they don't have staff and if they do have staff it's usually provided to them

00:22:11.340 by leadership which means they have an actual spy in their office so anytime a conservative in any state

00:22:17.880 legislator wants to do something proactive to limit the size of government uh there are a lot of forces

00:22:25.040 working against them but we can change that and and that's what we're trying to do we're going to bring

00:22:29.940 them resources staffing all sorts of things so that they can um strategize they can meet um and they can

00:22:37.800 they can figure out which bills to kill and which bills to to push up and here's the best part is that we

00:22:44.600 can build a coalition of supporters behind them you know as i mentioned before a lot of people don't

00:22:49.780 know who their state rep or their state senator is but but we plan on changing that we want to turn

00:22:54.360 these people into heroes because if they see that fighting for limited government um and liberty is

00:23:01.560 something that people will respond to they're going to do more of it and so their colleagues are going

00:23:06.260 to follow them as well so so are you going made a lot of are you going into the um into the state

00:23:14.460 houses or you're talking to the reps that you look at and say this these these are the kind of people

00:23:19.460 that we want and you're talking to them one-on-one this is both the um grassroots but does the politician

00:23:27.740 come first to make sure you have somebody that you can support right away and then gather the support

00:23:33.840 for that person oh definitely we have a pretty uh rigorous vetting process uh we reach out to

00:23:40.900 uh the grassroots and we basically ask them who's the most conservative member in the legislature

00:23:45.940 and they usually land on one or two people and then we start talking to them and then we give them

00:23:52.760 uh bylaws like a template uh which they can take to their colleagues and it's a basically an

00:23:58.680 accountability document uh basically uh it tells them who they can invite into the freedom caucus

00:24:04.420 how they can kick people out um when a freedom caucus takes a position it's expected that all members

00:24:10.200 follow that position and if they don't they need to submit a letter basically explaining why they

00:24:16.260 can't um and if you rack up too many of those letters then it's time for you to go uh so the the bylaws

00:24:23.220 are an important part and then after that we tried to identify somebody uh in state who knows

00:24:29.920 how things work who can help that freedom caucus operate kind of the person behind the curtain

00:24:35.500 who can help read the bills make vote recommendations build coalitions none of this is happening right now

00:24:42.840 um and this is what we're going to change and i i gotta tell you it's working i mean we're just in

00:24:49.800 five states right now but it's working uh we've had some major successes a couple of chairmen of

00:24:54.900 these state freedom caucuses have been on your show and have explained uh the success that they're

00:25:00.200 having so i i think uh the the best is yet to come well i i hope that you're right because uh a lot of

00:25:08.860 these people who i happen to believe in all over the country um they are they're beating their heads

00:25:15.500 against the wall they're so outnumbered uh and they see what the problem is but it's it's so dirty i

00:25:22.640 mean i i am i you know because i'm fighting against esg the money uh that is uh being pushed around by

00:25:31.800 the big banks and the lobbyists is just insanity and people don't have the time to do their own

00:25:38.820 homework on it it's a problem yeah and that's why we just need to bring more resources on our side

00:25:46.680 to level the playing field um in south carolina in fact today uh there's going to be a big big bill

00:25:54.460 decided on certificate of need and i know a lot of people don't know what that is but basically if

00:26:00.700 you want to build a hospital in some area you literally have to get you literally have to get the

00:26:05.820 permission of the incumbent hospitals right it's a it's a it's a racket that the government has set

00:26:12.180 up yep and in south south carolina right now uh the senate wants to repeal certificate of need in the

00:26:18.460 entire state and the majority leader in the house a republican promised to repeal it but then when he

00:26:25.760 realized that there were enough votes to actually do that he killed the bill well the south carolina

00:26:32.120 freedom caucus is not taking no for an answer so they're going to uh attach an amendment to a new

00:26:38.080 bill that will repeal it and we're going to find out today if that's successful or not wow uh but but i

00:26:44.660 hope it is i know here in texas my my local area wanted to build a hotel a hospital and uh had to get

00:26:52.360 you know the certificate of need and the the entire thing was was just a scam i mean it's people don't

00:27:00.480 understand how many things and how many big businesses have um colluded with your state

00:27:07.520 government to get special things that you don't even know about you just don't know yeah it's it's

00:27:15.060 i i would call it a soft form of corruption but maybe it's a hard form because it's happening

00:27:20.540 every day yeah without people knowing about it but that's what we're trying to change so

00:27:26.260 if we're able to repeal it today i think it's going to be a huge victory and you know uh everybody's

00:27:33.060 favorite state florida doesn't have certificate of need and everything's doing just fine down there

00:27:38.500 yeah so any excuse that that we need it for the health of uh for public health reasons is just

00:27:45.660 nonsense so we're really excited about it okay so how do people get involved if they are if they want

00:27:51.200 to get involved at all and help what do they do so uh our website is state freedom caucus dot org

00:27:58.580 and there you can go and see which state freedom caucuses we have up uh we also urge people to

00:28:04.720 uh recommend uh state reps in their state we're having conversations with state lawmakers all across

00:28:10.860 the country we're not quite to vermont and hawaii yet we're getting there yeah um and and i'll tell

00:28:17.980 you what there are actual patriots in states like that oh i'm sure sometimes i think the the liberal

00:28:23.920 states are the are our best opportunities of course because the democrats have been in charge for so

00:28:29.340 long that they've gotten lazy yeah i mean it's uh you know you're uh you know it's one thing to be a

00:28:35.260 catholic in rome and another thing to be a catholic in china you know when you're not surrounded by it

00:28:41.640 you have to work for it uh and uh i i was a i think i was much sharper when i had to be in new york

00:28:49.920 every single day you know battling it out every day even in the streets and at dinner and everything

00:28:56.040 else you can you can get a little loose if you're in if you're in a very conservative area

00:29:00.680 yeah you're in the lion's den yes so i i really do have a lot of uh hope for states like that in fact

00:29:07.820 like i mentioned we just launched the illinois freedom caucus and those guys are going to fight

00:29:11.880 for right to work lower taxes they're going to take on the corrupt pension system there they've

00:29:17.880 got a lot of work yeah they've got a lot there's a lot there's a lot of conservatives in illinois who

00:29:23.140 need a voice yeah they get behind andrew thank you very much this is andrew roth he is um uh running

00:29:30.240 the state freedom caucus you can find it state freedom caucus.org state freedom caucus.org you want to

00:29:36.960 sweep up and clean up your state and get it back to where it should be this is a very good start

00:29:42.340 state freedom caucus.org this is the best of the glenn beck program

00:29:49.420 bethany mandel she's a contributing writer for the deseret news editor of heroes of liberty book series

00:30:05.600 and the latest target last night of a man once known as keith oberman um i i mean he's i sure

00:30:16.000 that's his still his name but most people don't know his name anymore uh we'll get into that here

00:30:21.080 in a second bethany welcome thank you so much for having me you bet you bet so we were talking about

00:30:26.420 this yesterday in a meeting and i don't understand it uh the baby formula shortage i i don't know why

00:30:34.700 nobody is doing anything about it and i don't i really this bothers me that we're living in a

00:30:42.360 country that is now just expected to you know get over it you know if you know and that that's not

00:30:50.660 america so what's no it's not so what's happening with this take us from the problem to possible

00:30:58.260 solutions sure so i mean everyone is having supply chain issues across the board from you know

00:31:05.260 everything from lumber to you know the car chips yeah so i mean it turns out that there are consequences

00:31:12.940 to shutting down your economy for a year and a half shocking yeah shocking probably to all your

00:31:18.420 listeners but there are unintended consequences to such an action and this is one of those

00:31:22.760 unintended consequences almost 50 of the baby formula uh that our babies in america use is made

00:31:29.280 in china and um you know shanghai is currently locked down and you can't get things on and off both to and

00:31:35.420 from china um so there's a lot of that going on um there's a lot of sort of staffing issues across the

00:31:42.420 board um that are leading you know to to drug stores and all these department stores having a hard

00:31:48.320 time getting things on the shelves but the sort of major precipitating factor was a massive

00:31:53.660 recall at one of the biggest uh formula companies called abbott and they found um that there was a

00:32:01.140 bacteria that had made its way into the formula can that was extremely dangerous to babies and two babies

00:32:06.600 died so it wasn't a super duper overreaction on their part but they decided to in my personal

00:32:14.540 opinion um do a recall that was maybe a little bit too broad um and they pulled a lot of formula

00:32:21.620 off the shelf and there was no real plan for what do we how do we replace it um in the marketplace and

00:32:28.820 so um there's also not really been a plan to test the formula that they pulled off the shelf to see if

00:32:34.180 it was in fact safe and it wasn't hang on just a second but it wasn't it wasn't that they just pulled

00:32:39.220 this all off they also shut the factory down and the factory's still not operating yeah because they

00:32:46.480 had to clean it there was a bacterial infection so severe that it killed two babies and hospitalized

00:32:51.240 i think six um so i mean it was it was a really serious thing and parents have to know that you

00:32:56.740 know what they're feeding their baby is safe but this is sort of the the lack of urgency that we see

00:33:01.120 on the part of the government in so many ways that we've really gotten a window into in the last two

00:33:06.940 years a total lack of urgency to treat this as as a as an emergency one of my sort of favorite stories

00:33:15.540 about this is during covid um we learned that the vaccine was somewhat dangerous to to teenage boys

00:33:23.600 that it was causing heart issues and they the sda scheduled a meeting three weeks away on juneteenth

00:33:30.460 and then when juneteenth became a national holiday they were like you know we're going to honor that

00:33:35.980 holiday we're just going to push it back another few weeks and so like we were administering a

00:33:41.200 vaccine to teenage boys that was potentially you know life-threatening to their hearts and sda pushed

00:33:46.680 it off for five weeks and that that sort of lack of urgency and government bureaucracy that we saw

00:33:50.960 with you know hearts of teenage boys we're seeing the same thing with formula right now so you know it's

00:33:56.300 crazy this is why you know a centralized planning never works it just never works because the people

00:34:04.080 in charge of all of it that have to give the go-aheads and everything else they're government

00:34:09.640 workers and not necessarily you know uh the fastest or understand the concerns down the down the line

00:34:17.780 competent let's be honest what'd you say we're the most competent let's be honest yeah all of us have

00:34:24.200 sat in the dmv before and those those are the people right now who are sitting on the manufacturers

00:34:29.460 so like ability to get food out what is the company waiting for from the government

00:34:36.580 i mean they have to get the okay that everything is safe and that everything is sanitary and that they

00:34:42.220 can you know release everything that they've pulled off the shelves so have they so they have completed

00:34:47.720 the company has completed everything it was supposed to we're just waiting for inspectors

00:34:52.300 basically yeah oh my gosh oh my gosh so i mean they they are ramping up they say i mean the issue

00:35:02.040 is also you know they they are ramping up um production but um they're afraid to sort of pour

00:35:09.220 more money into it because then it's going to increase the cost of formula which has already gone

00:35:13.000 up significantly with inflation and so you know this is something the biden administration can do they

00:35:17.520 can say we will pay the difference we will get more people in so that you're running 24 7 and

00:35:24.040 the we will foot the bill we just we need a formula affordable formula produced right now today and we

00:35:31.980 will do whatever it takes to make that happen because this is a priority and babies are our most precious

00:35:37.180 natural resource and you're not hearing that from the biden administration and you would be yeah i'm

00:35:42.500 quite surprised because that sounds like a public-private partnership and they love those

00:35:47.620 yeah okay so what is it that parents can do because i'm seeing all these warnings no don't don't do

00:35:55.180 anything what i'm not gonna let my baby starve and i'm pretty sure that i mean i was probably getting

00:36:02.980 a little whiskey in uh my nipple when i was you know growing up with a bottle um uh you know they had to

00:36:10.860 have done a lot pardon me it does explain a lot um but there had to be things that you know we were

00:36:17.440 feeding our kids back in the day before formula that we can do again not for every child the special

00:36:23.580 needs children but for the regular baby so i'm gonna push back a little bit on you with that so

00:36:30.460 most regular babies who don't have special needs there's enough switching that you can do that you can

00:36:37.260 find an alternative if like you know the cvs brand is an in stock you could get like the target brand

00:36:43.320 like there there's some wiggle room okay so it's not a shortage baby oh it's not a shortage for average

00:36:49.560 babies as well so it is but not nearly to the extent that it is for babies who are on special formula

00:36:55.980 the special formula shortage is particularly acute um and those are the majority of the parents that i'm

00:37:02.640 hearing really panicked like the the parents with the average baby no health needs just can take

00:37:08.280 formula um they can they can sort of run around to different stores and usually find something in

00:37:13.640 stock not saying that that's right and that you know whatever but yeah but it's not a panic situation

00:37:18.180 right right and and i and i think that that's if i were that parent that is what i would do um

00:37:24.700 the the formulation of formula is really specific and there are a lot of different uh minerals and

00:37:33.080 nutrients that are in there that you can't just do at home or you you might not get precise i spoke to

00:37:39.320 a pediatrician actually in texas his name is whitney morgan and um and she told me you know i i've seen

00:37:44.980 babies come into my office and i've seen babies die when i was working in a hospital their parents tried

00:37:49.940 to stretch a formula can and put more water in and it messes up their electrolytes very quickly

00:37:55.700 and it can lead to hospitalization and death um more easily than than i think any people anyone wants

00:38:02.360 to consider um but also one of the sort of scary things is you know all of these recipes and i sent

00:38:08.400 her one of those recipes and i said what do you think about this sort of break break down the recipe

00:38:13.320 and she said it is lacking in um a couple nutrients that you know in the short term will absolutely keep

00:38:19.520 the baby alive but in five months we're going to notice some cognitive issues that um are now you

00:38:26.540 know permanently in place because this baby was not getting the brain food that they needed basically

00:38:31.320 um so you know a lot of a lot of people you know grew up on this homemade formula but a lot of people

00:38:37.800 didn't grow up um there's there there's a lot of room for error and we saw that room for error with

00:38:44.580 what happened in the abbott formula company that you know they they were they had the best safety

00:38:50.180 protocols in the world and two babies died of the bacterial infection um so i i would really really

00:38:55.680 caution parents against um diy formula because it can go really wrong really fast um and i think it's

00:39:02.600 more dangerous than than the shortage that's not an answer i wanted sorry but i'm glad you told me the

00:39:12.160 truth i i just i mean we don't understand how blessed we have been uh as we are losing things nobody thinks

00:39:20.860 a baby formula as i mean this this is you know you if if this would become acute uh for a long period of

00:39:30.860 time it would change uh our society a lot of babies would die or i mean it's you don't even think of that

00:39:40.440 because we're so used to having it yeah no absolutely one of the first things that i i i

00:39:45.400 have five kids and i i mostly breastfeed but i also understand that like life happens and one of

00:39:51.020 the first things i did when covid started was buy a couple of cans of formula just in case because

00:39:55.480 we saw things flying off the shelves and i was like you know what i'm just gonna have a couple cans

00:40:00.060 i'm breastfeeding my baby right now but life happens things can change and um this is one thing that

00:40:05.420 i'm scared of um i'm scared of flying off the shelves okay um let me switch topics uh you were

00:40:14.880 can you give me the the the tweet here still uh from keith oberman i don't know i mean i guess he's

00:40:22.680 just sad in his nursing home tweeting things out but he he came after you yesterday because you were

00:40:29.380 homeschooling actually mother's on mother's day perfect yeah that's good uh after bethany had

00:40:34.700 responded to steve steve schmidt tweet he uh keith oberman said i imagine putting homeschool mom in

00:40:40.700 your bio and not understanding you've just ruined the lives of five innocent children

00:40:46.400 is the worst that's incredible yeah i mean he's like a really sad human being honestly like

00:40:54.940 we have this sort of saying in yiddish like nebach like oh it's like poor soul and that's honestly

00:41:01.300 how i feel about him like he i don't know if you remember he went after mitt romney um at christmas

00:41:06.500 time last year um romney posted a picture of his like beautiful enormous family that's like perfect

00:41:12.840 in every way right and he treated something like this is like my worst nightmare or something and it's

00:41:16.900 like that really says a lot about you that's sad that's really sad and anybody who can't see that

00:41:23.440 homeschooling i mean just what we've learned about the teachers unions and and crt and and sel all of

00:41:32.680 these things how do you not see that putting your your kids in the wrong school is much much worse

00:41:42.500 much worse yeah yeah i mean i live in montgomery county maryland and the test scores that have been

00:41:49.320 released about what happened over the last two years are mind-blowing like oh i know the the

00:41:55.980 abilities of children in middle school to do math went from like they were testing at like 60 70 percent

00:42:04.080 um to about five percent on on level i will tell you across the board oh i know i'll tell you i'm having

00:42:10.680 a hard time with my kids in high school because they're just they're they just it it's like they

00:42:17.620 just lost i don't know well they did they lost two years and it they're just just struggling so hard

00:42:26.680 to get anything back we've just destroyed a generation yeah no we absolutely have thank you

00:42:33.220 so much i appreciate it bethany god bless thank you so much you bet uh you can uh find her at her

00:42:38.720 website heroes of liberty.com heroes of liberty.com or follow her uh at uh bethany shondark

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