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On this episode of the Glenn Beck Program, host Glenn Beck is joined by the Gop candidate for the U.S. Senate primary in Ohio, Sherrod Brown, and former congressmen Mike Levengood and Mike Collins. They discuss why Sherrod brown won the primary and why he should win the primary.
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holy cow what a what a full full show we have the gop uh winner from last night in ohio he's going
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to be the uh gop candidate for senator uh bernie uh moreno and i really enjoyed talking to him
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today also mike lee joins us we have mike collins uh from congress who is talking about uh the lake
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and riley act that's going to the senate is the senate going to block it or not and if so why
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john andrasik joins us with uh something a little bit about uh israel and ken paxton the attorney
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general of uh the great state of texas who answered a question of mine in a way i have not heard
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ever on national radio or television uh from a man of his stature it felt like history uh and it was a
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you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program u.s senate candidate for the gop
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won the primary last night in ohio bernie moreno how are you sir
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i'm great glenn thank you for having me it was a uh pretty resounding victory let me give you some
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quick numbers three three in a three-way race almost 51 percent of the vote almost 18 point
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wow and we've won all 88 counties every single county we won holy cow that is great that is great
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now the democrats i mean i i love your enemies first of all the democrats spent about three million
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dollars uh on ads against you then you have uh then you have mitch mcconnell who i know who i know for
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a fact hates your ever-living guts both of those things speak highly of you well the democrats uh put
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an ad out there tying me to president trump as if that was a uh some sort of negative the reality is i wear
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my support of and for president trump with a badge of honor what will be interesting is to see if
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sherrod brown will wear with a badge of honor his 99 percent voting record with joe biden or whether
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he'll hide your cat whenever biden shows up in ohio right i mean they they always try to paint
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donald trump as an extremist i didn't see anything extreme that he did i i i was not a fan of donald trump
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the first time around because i thought he would be a little you know unhinged and most likely lean
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towards liberal i was wrong on that admitted that and i you look at his policies and you look at the
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history of what we went through it was pretty good it was pretty good and not extreme but you
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it is it is absolutely out of control i mean it's very this is basically a conversation between
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people who love america and believe in common sense and people who hate this country and are
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completely out of their minds because the policies really shouldn't even be controversial
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this is about legal immigration zero tolerance for illegal immigration energy dominance not depending on
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other countries for oil putting uh the parents and local communities in charge of their kids education
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having peace and stability around the world versus having uh potentially world war iii at every corner
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of the globe this isn't even close this is why last night it was a repudiation of the republican
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party of the past the party that thought that it was better to appease democrats than actually appease
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their voters so bernie um tell me about yourself why did you decide to do this you know how's your soul
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well i was a uh i i came to the u.s as a kid i moved to uh the united states when i was just about
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five years old from columbia south america became a citizen the first opportunity i could the greatest
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gift my parents gave me was bringing me to this country i was able to get to ohio about 20 years ago
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about a small tiny little business built it into a great business this country gave me all the
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opportunities on earth that i could ever have dreamed about and this is about making certain that we
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preserve that ability that ability to do whatever you set your mind out to no matter who you are
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or the circumstances of your birth the color of your skin whatever your background is you can do
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anything in america if you work hard enough that's what the left hates they want government
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dependency they want to tell us how to live our lives they they have this paternalistic view of
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governing and that's what we're going to repudiate and the american people are sick and tired of career
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politicians that care more about themselves and their career than actually helping this country
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so bernie i i i want to i don't know if you're a religious person at all but um you know i james lindsey
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uh i don't know if you know who he is um but he is a he's an atheist and uh i was talking to him
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last time we sat down together i guess maybe a year ago and i said i need your help james because i'm
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looking at what's happening in our country and i look at what's happening in washington and because it is
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preaching you can't do it there is no uh you know salvation it's all collective salvation they're beating
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people down they're separating us you know uh by color i can't think of another word other than
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evil and he said yeah i think that's the only word that um uh it could be applied at this scale
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are you have you ever encountered real evil because you're about to if you go to washington
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oh i i encountered it in my own primary uh you know the darkest forces in this country collude uh
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the cabal is real something i never would have thought of as a business person before i get into
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politics this group of far left extremists that control the democrat party with spineless republicans
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combined with a media that absolutely does their bidding to fight anybody who goes against their
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their vision of this country uh but to answer your original question glenn this country does not exist
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without god it does not there is this nation was founded on a principle that our rights come from
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somebody above government which is the almighty if we don't believe that then we have to believe
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that our rights come from some government official which is the whole cornerstone of what our democratic
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republic is all about so what are the things that compelled you to get in what are the what are the
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things and who are the people that you will uh partner with in in the senate that you think these
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guys get it i am on that team i look at jd vance great friend of mine i'm going to be a great partner
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with him we're going to have a great delegation here in ohio people like mike lee bill haggerty rand paul
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ted cruz uh marco rubio roger marshall tommy tomberville you you were the conservatives are
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going to band together in the united states senate come 2025 and we're going to do something novel
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glenn we're actually going to put in the agenda that every republican campaigns on every republican
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campaigns on the same issue sets it's just that some of them forget why they got to washington dc
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and who they're accountable to and we're going to change that next year by the time july 4th of
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2026 comes around glenn we're going to get we're going to have our country back we're going to
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celebrate the fact that this country's going to be better for our kids and grandkids because the
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best years of this country are ahead of us not behind us but it just takes all of us to lean in
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and and save this country which is what we're going to do so um when people say that um you know
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you're a conservative or you're as they say about you i think you're a mega mega fighter um they do
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everything they can christian nationalists to make us look like crazy people and you know some people i
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guess you know maybe are on the right or the left i i i know they exist but i am a constitutional
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conservative that is a christian i fight for the declaration of independence the constitution
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and the bill of rights and i will fight against anybody and i think i have a pretty clear record on
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this anyone left or right friend or foe if you start to uh violate the the bill of rights and and our
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constitution would you stand against just for the people that maybe are afraid of donald trump because
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he's such a crazy man would you stand against donald trump if he was trying to do things that
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were unconstitutional of course but he doesn't uh the person who tries to do things that are
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unconstitutional is the current occupant of the white house but you're exactly right the duty that
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every elected official has is to uphold the constitution as written there's a document that uh really
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was something that you put a time and place where these men were in one place one geography
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in a certain time and place and it's an amazing document you look at the declaration of independence
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it lays out the mission statement of the country i call the i was in the auto business i called the
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constitution the owner's manual we need to look at the owner's manual to understand how to operate
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the country but we're not doing that though we're not doing that we're doing the exact opposite i'll tell
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you a story real quick that you'll really appreciate i was down in miggs county one of
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the poorest counties in ohio a gentleman there happened to be a truck driver raised his hand at
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one of our sessions with me and my opponents and he said what does article one section one of the
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constitution say that's a question from a truck driver in miggs county ohio because what he knew was
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that we're not following that which is that all legislative powers are are to be held in a
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congress united states he knows that how many elected officials know that because we're not
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following that simple idea now i've heard from everybody who has gone to congress or the senate
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that i respect they all say every almost every politician here pays lip service to the constitution
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in the declaration but the only time that it is ever truly discussed or taken into consideration
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is when there's a voter around they'll talk a good game but they don't really care about it at all
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and you know it's funny that you said you know our mission is clearly stated in uh the declaration i call
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that i mean it's clear that's our mission statement and you're exactly right i call the constitution
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our our owner's manual that's our how-to book and of course men never read a manual so maybe we should
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you know maybe we should concentrate that on that a little bit because everything that is happening
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that is wrong with the country and putting us on the wrong track is the fact that we are violating
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not only the constitution on the way things are supposed to be done congress needs to take
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its power back but also an out of control administrative state uh and a violation of
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almost every single uh right in the bill of rights almost every day nobody's quartering horses or troops
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in my house yet but i you know i could make a case that google is no you're exactly right and it's
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it's fascinating to me to watch these career i call them job-seeking career politicians because i think
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that's also what my election showed is a repudiation of that i think our founders understood instinctively
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that government will eventually uh let without restraint have tyranny over its people just by its very
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nature and so they understood the way to fix that is you send people who've done something outside
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of government go there to serve and then most importantly come home that last part is critical come home this is not
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we were never intended in this country to have a political class we're intended to have a citizen-led
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legislature where the government is small we have decentralized power because the big the bigger the
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people we the people are the smaller government is but look at we've almost gotten to the point
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where government is in charge of our every aspect of our lives and we have to fight that back and i think
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i think there's a movement glenn in this country that really understands that and we're going to get our country back
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yeah bernie thank you great talking to congratulations again on a huge victory in ohio last night thank you
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well thank you thank you go ahead you bet bye-bye bernie moreno um from ohio the now official gop candidate
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for the senate unless you got a crystal ball you haven't told anybody about and call me if you have one
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now back to the podcast you're listening to the best of the glenn beck program
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senator mike lee welcome to the program sir thank you glenn be with you as always
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yeah um we've got a ton of topics to go through i want to see if we just go through some of these
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things as quickly as we can to get some understanding first of all can we start with texas i don't i'm not
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sure if you uh are up to speed on all of it but if the supreme court ruled how can a lower court
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reinstate the stay that the supreme court said was no good yeah look uh texas and the court system
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surrounding texas law as before uh really is contributing meaningfully to march madness uh we've
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got a lot of back and forth now the important thing to remember is that there there wasn't a
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ruling on the merits by the supreme court in this case correct what we saw yesterday was the court
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declining to issue an administrative state just declining to stop things it was the lower court
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right to stay on it as the case is being argued uh before the u.s court of appeals for the fifth
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circuit today now the fifth circuit includes the state of texas and they're hearing arguments on
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the merits of the case and so within i i don't know it could be uh as short as a few days likely
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it'll be a few weeks the fifth circuit will issue a ruling my understanding of the state that's in effect
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now put in place by the lower court is it that will remain in the in effect until they decide this
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or probably in a few weeks time well but i don't understand how a stay when you have something
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like this the country is hemorrhaging it's hemorrhaging our borders are wide open we're
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hemorrhaging you go to a doctor and he's like well before we put that tourniquet on let's hold on here
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and you would think that everybody would look at that doctor go um hemorrhaging i think while you make
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a decision maybe we should just stop the hemorrhaging first and then we can talk about it
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why isn't that the case i you know that that is uh a little baffling to me it seems like a bad choice
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now i haven't seen the the lower courts written ruling on this most recent action uh sometimes
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courts will do this in order to preserve the status quo while the litigation is being worked out but
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that seems uh troubling here to to put it mildly because they have an obligation they have a duty
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they certainly have authority under article one section 10 of the constitution to protect themselves
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against an invasion this texas law as before um it gives texas the uh authority to to detain the
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illegal immigrants take them to the border present them with two options leave the country or be
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prosecuted for illegal entry and face jail time now why you would want to maintain the status quo the
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status quo in which uh this uh bloodbath that joe biden has himself created through an open border
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resulted in the death of so many people is beyond my ability to understand okay so um let me ask you one
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other question if this if the state of texas wins the right to actually enforce the law which is insanity
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to me um does will that apply to other states as well or is it just texas well in any litigation glenn
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technically the only parties who are immediately governed by the ruling are the parties before the
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court so technically speaking that ruling would apply only to the state of texas that said the
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precedent that will be set there uh would would likely be uh controlling and um in the states in
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the u.s court of appeals for the fifth circuit uh in including not only texas uh but but uh other
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states including louisiana where the case is being argued today so it would certainly apply there and then
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that precedent would likely be looked to by other circuits uh in other states around the country
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as they handle similar cases if other states adopt similar laws well i just know that you know we all
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had to live by the arizona law um you know so when they lost that it kind of affected everybody else
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at the border as well um mike one one last question the president of mexico came out yesterday and said
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well you're not sending them back here as somebody who dealt with the state department and this
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government trying to get 18 000 people out of afghanistan and some of them our own special forces
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that were left behind i know that the state department can call ahead and say you know what
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we can't vouch for this plane don't let this plane land that's our recommendation and they all follow that
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can if we start deporting people can the state department get involved and do that i in this
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administration uh the for the very reasons you just described i remember talking to you uh at the time
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you were trying to get people out of faskanistan glenn and realizing the insane degree to which
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the state department was willing to make people's lives hell um so i wouldn't put it past them to try
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just the same i also wouldn't mess with texas or discount the ability of the state of texas to
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figure out workarounds there uh if if one route doesn't work they might try another one and i
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suspect they would succeed um i want to talk to you about the um uh about the freedom of speech thing
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you and i were talking the other day and you were a little afraid that this may not go the the way of
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the people um i know you're hoping for a different outcome but you you're also you know paid to think
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on the you know the other side as well do that do you think that we have a chance of really a real
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chance of losing the freedom of speech uh argument in front of the court where the government can just
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lean on companies and tell them who to silence and who to promote
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yeah i think there's a real chance of that glenn and it's devastating that would be unfortunate that
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is not the outcome i hope for uh there is nonetheless a possibility that the state of
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missouri will lose in this case uh i wasn't president of the courtroom yesterday but i've listened to the
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argument it's available online and uh it's a fascinating argument uh but look this case is really
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important it's important uh i i think for missouri to win here because if the government can violate
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your rights when there's trouble just because there's trouble you don't have rights that's not
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what the u.s constitution does it's it's not there as justice jackson seemed to suggest with one of
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her questions yesterday uh to make things easy for the government it is there uh uh literally to
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hamstring the government to make it more yes yes to do this uh but yeah there's a chance losing this
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year some of the questions yesterday many of them focused on this issue of standing who has standing to
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sue and there is some difficulty uh there's some risk to the plaintiffs in this case that they won't be
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able to sufficient to satisfy uh the court's exacting requirements on standing to show that any one of
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them was directly harmed by any particular government action taken in this case that's an important
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constitutional element that's a jurisdictional element so if if the court sounds find that way if the if
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the government is violating if the government is violating um people's first amendment rights all over
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the country why doesn't a state ag that represents the people have standing
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yeah either the state ag who represents some of these people or some of the individuals themselves
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because there is evidence that some of them were harmed and they were harmed by this government
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action that's why i hope the court doesn't get stuck on that argument because i think there is
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sufficient evidence upon which they could find article three constitutional standing there to establish
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that you've got to show that uh you suffered an injury in fact uh that that you you you were uh
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subjected to that injury as a result of someone else that that caused you the injury and that the court is
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capable of remedying that injury in fact it's fairly traceable to the conduct of the defendants i think there's
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more than enough evidence for at least some of these plaintiffs uh for the court to find standing and i i really hope
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that they handle this the right way but i think if they're going to lose that's probably the most likely
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ground on which they lose and that's worrisome you are listening to the best of glenn back to listen
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to the rest of this interview check out the full show podcast we have ken paxton on ken the attorney
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general from the great state of texas how are you sir i'm doing well pretty crazy stuff going on right now
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as usual i know um thank you for joining us i know you're you're you're getting ready for your
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argument uh with the appellate court uh today can you tell me what happened yesterday the supreme court
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said texas can begin arresting and then i get up this morning and the appellate court says no no no not
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so fast well this is one of the more confusing and maybe inexplicable things i've witnessed in the
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court so it started off in district court with the biden administration and a little group called
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the aclu sued us saying that as before was unconstitutional we didn't have the right to expel
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anybody from the country no matter how bad they were so we the judge and that they you know where
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they filed the lawsuit put an injunction on our law so it couldn't go into effect on march 4th
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the date it was supposed to go into effect we appealed that a three-judge panel ruled in our favor
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we got the uh the stay lifted but they put what's called an administrative stay on it to give the
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supreme court a chance to review it he goes up to the supreme court the supreme court says uh no fine
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six zero uh it can go into effect and so we're good we're happy within hours we are notified by a new
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panel of the supreme court uh priscilla owen is i think a bush appointee and then uh we have a liberal
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judge appointed by one of the democrats and we had andy olum who ruled in our favor so we lost two to
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one they put another stay back in but then they ordered us to have a uh a hearing within less than
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12 hours from finding out so actually my guy is arguing by zoom right now uh at the court in in
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new orleans the fifth circuit and that three judge panelist so it's a really odd argument because
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they removed the stay but then they said that's what the argument's about so it's it's almost like
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they've already decided but they still want us to argue the case i don't know i've never seen it like
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it i don't understand it it's bizarre yeah i was talking to mike lee today um and he said you know
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stays are usually to stay from harm what we have going on here is a whole lot of harm we have crime we
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have killers we have just a just an invasion of our border uh and and it should be that the the
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court should say no no let him arrest until we look at everything instead the harm that is is being
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perceived i guess by this court is to the illegal alien yes to the illegal alien and to the biden
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administration's partnership with cartels that's that's the harm we are harming the cartel
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relationship and that's i don't know how else to put it if the court defends this if they block us
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from enforcing legitimate past law by the legislature signed by the governor then they are saying we want
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to protect any harm that might come to the the illegal immigrants and to the biden administration's
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work with the cartels that's the reality where we're at now so what is your guy arguing i wish we
00:28:13.920
could listen in what he's arguing exactly what you're saying that there's no harm and let this
00:28:22.080
law stay in effect let us argue the merits of the case and you you let us have the opportunity to
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uphold and defend a you know purposely enacted law by the texas legislature the people so when is
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representatives when are they going to when when is this going to be decided uh i mean i know the
00:28:45.920
stay is for today the trial i guess they would announce something within a couple of days on the
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on the stay but i think what about the full case like fast i mean they've already removed the stay so
00:28:57.280
i mean the or the administrative stay of the stay so confusing uh because there was a you know a stay in
00:29:04.560
place and then they had an administrative administrative stay of the stay that's why it's
00:29:09.360
so hard to explain so what they would do is i i think they're going to rule very quickly because
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look how fast they went they the supreme court you know gave us the uh the victory yesterday afternoon
00:29:21.680
and by you know within an hour or two the fifth circuit priscilla and this other judge said no you
00:29:28.400
can't this law can't stay in effect we're going to let the stay go back into effect that the original
00:29:33.760
judge put in place and now you have to argue this tomorrow at 10 10 in the morning which i've
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never had an argument turn around that fast on something so significant but even on something
00:29:43.040
minor i mean it's just that's what's so strange about this that's part of it and it's also strange
00:29:47.440
that the fifth circuit would sort of step past the supreme court and say well we're gonna we're gonna
00:29:52.720
stop this from going in effect and it's despite the fact that exactly you said the harm is to texas
00:29:57.840
there is no harm to the i mean i will acknowledge harm to the cartels i will acknowledge that they are being
00:30:02.160
harmed and that they're supposed to get people in here it is true we are harming the cartels so
00:30:06.880
that's what we're trying harm to the drug industry harm to the fentanyl pushers harm to the drug
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traffickers the human traffickers yeah so yes yes i will acknowledge that in public in court anywhere we
00:30:20.720
are harming them yes um so that that was the other question and you just touched on it how does a lower
00:30:29.120
court usurp the supreme court so they basically the supreme court just put it back down to the fifth
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circuit and said we're not we're not gonna uh undo the administrative stay of the stay and so they
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they they left our our law in place but the fifth circuit still has control of the case right now because
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it's back down with them and they can they can rule however they want and they can protect you know if
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they want to protect the cartels they can protect the cartels it's it's within their power to do that
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another thing that happened overnight and this is the first thing i was worried worried about i saw
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this late last night um and then i saw oh well we don't have to worry about that as much as we do
00:31:18.160
maybe uh people inside our own country the president of mexico said texas isn't going to return anybody to
00:31:25.280
the border of mexico or fly them into mexico which made me think of the 18 000 people that we finally
00:31:33.120
got out of afghanistan we were thwarted by the uh department of state every day all the time several
00:31:42.720
times a day we had a plane with refugees in the air and uh we had a place to land another country had
00:31:50.640
already okayed it and the state department called and said uh we can't vouch for that plane so i
00:31:56.320
wouldn't allow it to land and they they stopped us from flying any place can the can the governments
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do that to texas i i it seems wrong to me i mean look we also have this case supreme court just
00:32:12.960
knocked out our um we had an injunction from the fifth circuit that stopped that's you know the the
00:32:19.040
30 000 people that they're flying in flying in from venezuela nicaragua cuba cuba and uh venezuela
00:32:26.960
so 30 000 a year a month are being flown in we're paying for it state the state the the country is
00:32:32.400
paying for this the biden administration is paying for it's completely illegal and we had an injunction
00:32:37.280
to stop it in the supreme court just literally like i think it was a week ago i got rid of our
00:32:42.240
injunction so now those 30 000 people don't even have to come to the border we're paying for them to
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come to the country illegally i can't make this stuff up it's i don't i don't yeah i don't know
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i'm trying to figure out the distinction between the injunction and a stay what the difference is
00:33:02.240
there but it's all i'm sorry it's all it's language that it that they use but no i know basically we had
00:33:08.960
an injunction stopping the biden administration from importing 30 000 people a month from those four
00:33:14.320
countries the the four i mentioned and the supreme court six to three said no the injunction goes away
00:33:21.760
go back and litigate this case so here we are we now have 30 000 people a month and we can't stop it
00:33:28.960
until we get through this case which is going to take us you know who knows how long so 30 every month
00:33:34.000
30 000 more we're paying for this are going all over the all over the country from those four countries
00:33:38.960
i mentioned and then on top of that now texas has an injunction stopping us from enforcing our own
00:33:44.640
laws uh protecting our state from illegal immigration so it it's very frustrating because
00:33:50.880
it seems like it's even when we get rulings that allow us to go back to court they're the rulings that
00:33:57.360
allow it to take years and so you know a year goes by and another 300 000 people fly across the border
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they don't even go to border patrol anymore they just fly in ken i i'm sure you know this because
00:34:12.160
you live in texas as well um you know there's an old saying don't mess with texas and um you know
00:34:20.080
fortunately or unfortunately whichever way you want to look at it um a lot of texans mean that and uh a
00:34:27.600
lot of texans are seeing this as an invasion and they're seeing this out of control government um
00:34:35.600
you know doing exactly what you just said and destroying us intentionally poisoning us and
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there's a lot of texans that i i think are you know kind of up to here how do we how do we diffuse this
00:34:50.960
um this back and forth how do we diffuse it so it just doesn't get to a boiling point
00:34:58.560
that you you can't turn down uh look i i mean all we can do i i have lawyers people all the time say
00:35:05.120
why don't you do more i'm like well the the legislature gives me lawyers i don't give me
00:35:09.680
tanks or anything else so i just go and fight where i can fight i think eventually if if you have such
00:35:15.600
disdain if the federal government has such disdain for the law and the constitution then eventually
00:35:20.800
the people have a right to to say no we're not putting up with this anymore and and the declaration
00:35:24.960
of independence is is clear on that these rights are inalienable they're from god they're not from
00:35:29.120
joe biden they're not from donald trump they are inalienable and we have a right to those rights and
00:35:35.200
eventually the people have to find a way to overcome that and what that is i don't know but
00:35:39.680
hopefully the next election will speak to that and those rights will start being honored as fundamental
00:35:45.280
rights to human beings that is um one of the most um amazing statements i think i've ever heard from
00:35:59.120
a government official um um i i hope we i hope the next election with you i hope the next election solves
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these things because we're in constitutional crisis after constitutional crisis we are on our way it's
00:36:15.920
got to stop we are not there if we're not there now we don't have a constitutional republic if if the
00:36:21.680
rule of law and the constitution can be put aside set aside and and flip to mean anything that you know
00:36:28.560
a few justices think it means and they can dishonor fundamental rights that were guaranteed in our
00:36:34.640
constitution then now we're back to the declaration of independence and that is a big place to be as
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you know yeah ken paxton god bless you thank you um we'll pray for your win today god bless thank you
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the attorney general of uh the great state of texas why do i feel like history we just lived history
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please pray for peace please pay for play pray for peace um just on your knees beg