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00:00:00.000 hi mike how are you doing great it's so good to be back on your show thanks for having me on you're

00:00:19.160 welcome so is seriously i know we have to pick a woman for some unknown reason is the sex change 1.00

00:00:25.360 out of the out of the realm of possibility with you well not in the next 72 hours that seems a

00:00:33.360 little hasty okay all right so mike i want to talk to you about the vacancy what's going on um

00:00:39.500 ted said that he has concerns of anybody that is nominated because we always screw this up

00:00:46.900 is there anybody on this short list that you feel is a real home run yeah look i i think it's going

00:00:55.120 to be amy coney barrett i i could be wrong i don't think i'm going to be i think it's going to be her

00:01:01.140 and i think uh she would be a fantastic supreme court justice i think she'll be a textualist

00:01:07.400 and originalist she'll be devoted to the cause of constitutionally limited government that's what 1.00

00:01:12.380 we need so who would you compare her to who do you think she's going to be more like she she will be 0.99

00:01:18.480 in the mold of her former boss justice scalia and in the mold of uh justice alito my former boss

00:01:25.700 and in the mold of justice thomas uh she'll be somewhere in that universe wait justice thomas

00:01:31.840 oh clarence thomas i was thinking roberts i thought you said roberts there for a second no no no that would

00:01:36.440 be a very different story it's gonna be uh somewhere between uh roberts and uh and scalia

00:01:42.120 she's right in the sweet spot where we would want her to be she's she's a scalia alito uh thomas 1.00

00:01:48.400 type of jurist and that's exactly what we want now the last time she was confirmed in front of the 1.00

00:01:54.460 senate they just raked her across the the coals for her religious beliefs she's a strong catholic 0.99

00:02:01.440 and uh i mean just really were i thought way out of line uh they were i i was horrified glenn as i

00:02:09.940 sat through there i was in the committee room i serve on the judiciary committee with uh and as we

00:02:14.540 were going through uh the process of confirming her a couple of my democratic colleagues started asking

00:02:20.120 her these questions and i couldn't believe what i was hearing at first one of my colleagues said uh

00:02:25.060 you know the dogma seems to live strong in you or or words right right another colleague asked her if

00:02:32.300 she would describe herself as an orthodox catholic both of those questions came off to me as though they

00:02:38.100 were saying well uh it's one thing if you're catholic but if you actually believe that stuff

00:02:43.200 then you're kind of crazy that really bothers me as a religious minority myself uh i find that very

00:02:49.520 offensive as an american i i find it appalling as a constitutional lawyer i find it unacceptable

00:02:55.760 imagine saying that to ruth bader ginsburg about her religion exactly i mean that's that's outrageous

00:03:01.820 absolutely outrageous um so tell me about what you're expecting uh the democrats to do i mean

00:03:12.540 they are talking about burning the place down if this if this passes tell me is that is that rhetoric

00:03:22.200 are they serious what what what's what's happening mike i i don't know it's 2020 and so i i don't know

00:03:28.880 whether to read anything um just figuratively or literally because it could easily be both

00:03:35.660 uh insofar as they're expressing outrage over this that's really quite absurd i mean look this is not

00:03:43.060 an historical aberration for us to be confirming in this context you know in 2016 which they like to

00:03:49.260 point out president obama nominated merrick garland and the senate gave its advice and consent on that

00:03:55.720 nominee by rejecting him this year president trump will nominate a replacement i think it's going to

00:04:01.060 be amy coney barrett for justice ginsburg and consistent with the constitution will again give

00:04:06.480 our advice and consent if we like the nominee we'll confirm her if we don't we won't it's it's that

00:04:11.840 simple you know there have been uh there have been supreme court vacancies in presidential election

00:04:18.520 years 29 times in the history of our republic in 10 of those cases the presidency was held by one

00:04:24.340 party in the senate by a different party in nine of those 10 instances uh the nominees were rejected

00:04:30.440 by the senate just like garland was on the other hand there have been 19 times when a supreme court

00:04:36.320 vacancy occurred in a presidential election year where both the presidency and the senate were controlled

00:04:41.580 by the same party only one of those 19 nominees abe fortis was rejected and he was rejected on a

00:04:48.260 bipartisan basis after an ethics scandal every other nominee 18 out of those 19 was confirmed in an

00:04:54.460 election year when the senate and the presidency were under the control of the same party there is

00:04:59.820 nothing unusual about us doing this there's no reason why they should threaten to burn the house

00:05:04.500 down whatever that means mike you know for the last few years we've been talking about we need to make

00:05:12.000 sure we're watching russia and any foreign actors on uh on our elections the what the democrats are doing

00:05:20.340 now with the mail-in ballots um and how bad our systems are in every state uh the soros owning the uh

00:05:32.100 many of the attorney generals or the uh district attorneys i i am really really really really concerned

00:05:40.720 that no one is going to believe the results of this election no matter which way it happens

00:05:46.960 it is certainly concerning uh and one of the many reasons why we need to resist

00:05:54.040 any effort ever to centralize all voting authority um because of the fact that it would make it

00:06:02.540 more subject to manipulation by nefarious actors either outside of their our country like like russia

00:06:08.460 or otherwise um by the way that's exactly what a proposal advanced and passed by the democratic

00:06:15.000 house of representatives in this congress hr1 would have done is centralize election authority

00:06:20.680 making it more vulnerable uh our system is far more vulnerable than i would like it to be

00:06:26.280 but much better than it would be if the reforms proposed by the democratic party were enacted into law

00:06:33.000 in the meantime people can do their part by making sure that they vote by looking out for irregularities

00:06:39.480 whenever they see them and uh and praying to almighty god with everything in them uh that he'll guide us

00:06:46.240 through this particularly difficult election cycle and we'll make it through mike are you concerned with

00:06:51.940 um uh the the lack of record for amy uh coney barrett um i mean all of them are short hers is

00:07:02.460 probably the best but are you concerned that we don't know enough about these guys i'm nearly

00:07:08.760 always concerned that we don't know enough i wish we we knew more with judge barrett we know more than

00:07:14.440 we know with most yeah we confirmed her about three years ago to the u.s court of appeals for the seventh

00:07:21.020 circuit and we also have her career long uh track record academically we know that she's been involved

00:07:30.400 in the federalist society we know that she's a textualist originalist we know that she clerked

00:07:35.300 for justice scalia so those are all good signs all the indications we have from her are positive and

00:07:40.660 that's why i'm confident about this choice scalia is this was his favorite uh uh assistant or what

00:07:48.760 what did you call it a clerk yeah his favorite clerk right yeah he he loved her and he was not overly

00:07:56.880 emotional or attached to clerks i i have a friend uh my friend uh john fee who is a law professor now

00:08:05.400 at byu clerked for justice scalia and i believe it was john fee who told me that on the last day of his

00:08:09.420 clerkship justice scalia said something to him along the lines of uh you know you guys are all fungible

00:08:14.060 to me right oh my gosh he he he he was sort of you know he he was yeah half joking in many joking in

00:08:21.360 many in most respects but his point was uh i i can't get emotionally attached to each law clerk but

00:08:27.800 he loved judge barrett and uh i think it speaks well of her and of of him that he felt that way um

00:08:35.260 just because donald trump loves a show uh and uh he likes these big surprises uh let me talk to you

00:08:44.880 about barbara lagoa a bit um i like her story uh born to uh cuban immigrants um you know and really

00:08:54.940 seems to understand america uh first cuban american woman selected for the court but she was also 0.77

00:09:01.900 nominated by jeb bush uh so do we what do we know about her okay so here's the thing i'm sure

00:09:11.180 she's a great person i voted to confirm her to the u.s court of appeals to the 11th circuit uh from

00:09:16.940 what i can tell she is a good judge there i would not be comfortable confirming her to the supreme court

00:09:23.240 of the united states the same way i would be with amy coney barrett for the simple reason that we don't

00:09:27.880 know that much about her history of commitment to textualism and originalism at least not you know

00:09:35.540 before just a few years ago uh one of the standards i employs i i like to go back 20 years i i like to

00:09:42.640 find out uh who someone was associating with who they were working with uh 20 years ago uh what were

00:09:49.060 they doing to promote understanding of the constitution of textualism of originalism you know

00:09:55.380 20 years ago amy coney barrett uh was was clerking or preparing to clerk for justice scalia i know that

00:10:02.520 she was involved heavily in the federalist society that entire time i don't know that about barbara 1.00

00:10:07.080 lagoa in fact i haven't been able to find anybody who can confirm that to me i could be wrong in having

00:10:12.780 that concern but because i don't know i did that that nominee would scare me i did uh simply because

00:10:20.020 i don't know enough about her wow okay um let me uh let me just switch topics and then i'll let you

00:10:26.360 go mike on the president came out with a ban on woke capital working with the u.s government um he has

00:10:34.500 tried to stop these woke um uh you know hypnotist programs that are that are going on right now in

00:10:42.580 critical race theory and we have several branches of the administration that are ignoring his his order

00:10:51.500 to not do any of these critical race training theory uh meetings cdc was the first they had uh i think a

00:10:59.720 12 or 13 week course uh another one's got a 21 week course that is going on they're just ignoring

00:11:06.320 aren't we should people be fired i talked to somebody at the uh omb yesterday and he said well

00:11:13.780 we really can't we can't fire people who are directly going against a presidential directive

00:11:19.760 that seems wrong to me and first of all i'm very grateful to to the office of management and budget for

00:11:26.880 putting out this memorandum last week i had russ vote the head of omb come and speak to the senate

00:11:32.300 republicans and uh explained the need for this memorandum look these people are hating america

00:11:38.940 on america's dime and it's time to cut off their allowance this is absolutely ridiculous

00:11:44.200 now look have we always lived up uh to the lofty ideals that we believe in no we're mortals we're

00:11:52.100 imperfect but more than any other society that i know anything about in recorded human history

00:11:56.840 we have the ideals we do embrace them and we gravitate over time toward them to shake america's

00:12:05.300 foundations to their core to suggest that we don't have those ideals is fundamentally un-american it's

00:12:12.260 not helpful it's not what they should be doing and in this case it violates an executive branch

00:12:17.000 directive so yeah these people shouldn't be having those courses by the way glenn who does a 13 week

00:12:22.220 course on anything within the government let alone a 21 i know these people if if we're doing that much

00:12:29.340 time in training on things that that have nothing to do with anyone's job in the federal government

00:12:34.500 why do they have a job to begin with i don't know but it's that expendable but if you if you don't fire

00:12:41.600 these people um you're going to teach everyone else you can get away with it they'll slap you on the

00:12:48.640 wrist they'll make you stop doing it but they're not going to fire you examples need to be made

00:12:54.340 that you respond to the duly elected president of the united states you're a part of his administration

00:13:01.400 that's exactly right the one thing that the founders had in mind when they designed the

00:13:08.320 executive branch of government is that the president of the united states would be the head of the

00:13:12.600 executive branch of government they didn't contemplate this byzantine labyrinth this impenetrable

00:13:18.180 fortress in which people once inside could never be taken out right uh there are civil service laws

00:13:24.060 need to be reformed such that the american people can have a say in who operates their government

00:13:29.480 the president needs discretion to take out people who aren't willing to execute and enforce the laws

00:13:36.660 according to his directives we need to overhaul our laws in that area going to washington seems like

00:13:43.000 hotel california you can check in but you can never leave thank you so much

00:13:46.860 the best of the glenn beck program

00:13:50.800 drew holton is uh with us he's from the resurgent uh and uh the author of the resurgent

00:14:02.320 welcome uh to the uh welcome to the program drew how are you thank you sir i'm doing well glenn how

00:14:08.720 you know uh you know i i would i would be better if we didn't have our country on fire on fire right

00:14:15.120 now uh and it's a reasonable thing to be concerned right and it seems to me drew and you're great at

00:14:20.280 pointing this out it seems to me they are willing to do anything they really i think they mean burn

00:14:27.180 the whole thing down yeah i mean you know senator schumer said the other day that all options are on the

00:14:32.900 table right and they've floated all of the bad ideas be it during the nominating process and since

00:14:38.980 and i i can't help but agree with you so you uh you do what you you do best you took everybody's words

00:14:46.380 uh now and then you want to give us some of the uh most stunning

00:14:50.960 sure yeah i mean i think up from the start president barack obama was saying just four

00:14:57.140 short years ago that it would be irresponsible for the republicans to not consider a nominee before

00:15:03.540 one is even announced he has since four years later called on congressional democrats and senate

00:15:08.600 democrats to do the exact same thing senator schumer uh another one of our greatest hits he was saying

00:15:15.060 the same thing he said you know what the senate has confirmed 17 scotus justices in presidential

00:15:20.380 election years the senate should do their job confirm a nominee back when it was a democratic

00:15:25.060 nominee right when merrick garland was going to be the one but this was all up and down the ticket i

00:15:29.100 mean potential you know the presidential nominee joe biden saying the same thing it would be a genuine

00:15:35.200 constitutional crisis to block a potential justice nominee on the court all of those thoughts all of

00:15:41.820 that all of that logic has gone entirely out the window uh in the span of four years so i have to tell

00:15:47.420 you drew uh stew and i are one of the only two that i know of i know there are more but the only two

00:15:52.740 that i know of that actually said give an up or down vote i mean we're consistent with garland even

00:15:58.900 though i don't think you need to be uh consistent on these two because there is a difference the senate

00:16:05.400 is it was not controlled by the democrats and that's usual for them not to you know honor the uh the the

00:16:14.520 nominee exactly and it's not a rubber stamp right i mean i think that's the thing that's kind of lost

00:16:19.880 on people is that the role of the senate isn't to vet a candidate and say yep okay here they go they're

00:16:24.840 fine we'll let them through it's to it's to vote up or vote down i i agree with you i was i think i was

00:16:29.880 saying the same thing back when and said hey you know what fine we don't like the guy vote him down get it

00:16:34.340 over with it vote down whoever you want but but have the vote and do it and again this is the old

00:16:38.480 this is in a lot of ways it's the old harry reed filibuster play it you think it's going to work for

00:16:43.480 you in the short term it makes a lot of sense but in the long term you look like you got a lot of egg

00:16:47.060 on your face so i find it interesting how the change in the left here in on tone hillary clinton

00:16:54.500 this is the tweet from abc news at the time calls for a full and fair hearing for merrick garland

00:17:00.900 in announcing judge merrick garland as his nominee president obama has met his responsibility now

00:17:05.940 it's up to the members of the senate to meet their own end quote it seems respectable listen to this

00:17:12.580 hillary clinton says senate democrats will have to use every single possible maneuver to prevent 0.88

00:17:19.880 senator mcconnell from enacting the greatest tragedy a travesty and monumental hypocrisy in attempting to

00:17:27.780 fill ruth bader ginsburg's supreme court uh seat i mean the words that the left is using now they are

00:17:35.360 just so extreme they they are and you know i think they would be extreme even if the merrick garland

00:17:44.220 situation hadn't happened right i think to his credit senator schumer pointed out 17 times we filled

00:17:50.620 a supreme court seat in an election year so the idea in general of calling this a monumental hypocrisy

00:17:57.480 the greatest travesty is just it's baldly ridiculous but when they were saying the exact opposite just

00:18:03.640 four years ago it really does i mean for anyone sitting at home who may still kind of think that

00:18:09.180 there are people on the left side of the aisle who are going in good faith to try and do things that

00:18:13.740 are in the best interest of the american people rather than politicians who are gunning for power i hope

00:18:18.180 this dashes that thinking and this is why drew it seems like you know there's a few conservatives out

00:18:22.900 there who have you know a lot of them i like who are kind of trying to propose this this idea that we

00:18:28.340 would maybe make a deal with the democrats and tell them well we don't pack the court and then if you

00:18:34.180 don't pack the court then we won't put up a nominee and i mean i you know i like i like the sentiment it

00:18:40.160 feels good i wish we had a country in which that was appropriate i still push for a nominee but i i wish

00:18:45.340 we had a country in which the democrats could be trusted in such a situation but quite clearly we

00:18:51.220 don't right yeah i mean you're you're spot on it's it's one of those things where i you know you talk

00:18:56.880 about the david french is the jonah goldbergs who are just kind of waiting and hoping that the dems

00:19:00.600 will act in good faith and particularly on something like the supreme court i don't know where they've

00:19:04.380 been for the last few years i don't know if maybe they haven't been paying attention but i don't know

00:19:08.000 how any conservative uh you know with with any electricity going on between the ears could look at the

00:19:12.880 kavanaugh situation and say yes i trust these same people to now act in good faith it's like it's a

00:19:19.300 schoolyard thing right like this is the sort of thing that you usually learn as a five six seven

00:19:23.820 year old when you ask someone not to do something and give something up for it and for some reason

00:19:27.960 that that message hasn't hit home for some of these folks it hasn't hit home though i think for a lot

00:19:32.920 of democrats too that are you know there's there's a difference between a marxist a progressive a

00:19:38.780 liberal and a democrat i've got a lot in common with democrats some things in common with uh liberals

00:19:44.400 but they're important things on you know we both agree with the bill of rights once you get into

00:19:49.780 progressive and marxist it's a different story but those are the people that are now in charge and it

00:19:57.640 it appears as though they just despise america and will destroy it if they have to and destroy it

00:20:09.260 because they want to at least the ones that they're listening to and empowering on the streets

00:20:13.820 yeah and i think part of it is you know they they feel entirely compelled to have some measure of power

00:20:22.060 and control and they're used to they're familiar with having a supreme court and having a justice

00:20:27.820 system that by and large is going to is willing to legislate from the bench is willing to carry

00:20:32.940 victories and willing to carry water when democrats lose elections or can't get legislation through or

00:20:38.020 whatever it is and i think what you're seeing right now this kind of collective freak out on the

00:20:41.980 streets is oh no what happens if we lose that what happens if that sort of power and authority goes out

00:20:47.060 the window uh and you're right i think there's a lot of people who are willing to truly burn down

00:20:51.600 anything um any any institution any value right you're hearing talk about packing the supreme court

00:20:57.680 abolishing the electoral college doing away with the filibuster it's anything that could be an

00:21:02.380 impediment to that vision of what they think of as a better america can go out the window incredibly

00:21:07.840 quickly uh as as soon as they they get threatened there's a great story on the blaze today mike

00:21:13.100 bloomberg helps pay court fines for 31,100 florida felons so they can vote but they're all handpicked

00:21:21.040 they're they're democrats that they're doing and they're they're uh uh hispanic or blacks they're 0.69

00:21:27.460 not doing it for whites how is michael bloomberg going to get away with this is he you know to be

00:21:34.680 honest with you i'm not confident he is i think if there were another universe in which and you know

00:21:39.680 i'm personally i'm i think i'm a pretty big fan of restoring voting rights to felons they've served

00:21:44.140 their time but the idea of going through and selecting only the ones who you can confidently

00:21:49.520 rely on to vote dem uh one yes i mean i'm sure there's an enormous number of legal challenges i'm

00:21:54.980 sure he'll get sued i would be relatively surprised i think if he were to get away with it one and two

00:22:00.020 like again it just shows how obviously in bad faith what he's doing is because if what he was really

00:22:04.900 concerned about was restoring the rights of felons there's been a lot of great work in florida done

00:22:08.800 pushing on that issue there's a lot of ways to do that rather than handpick throughout the voting

00:22:13.360 roles of people who you think are going to vote for your team so drew have you war game this out in

00:22:18.600 your head how does america come back together after this because we're seeing what the left is doing

00:22:27.200 to the voting roles and to uh you know mail out ballots and and things like this in florida we're

00:22:34.500 seeing it we know that they are going to be litigating everything um they keep claiming that

00:22:41.900 we're trying to throw the election and we're trying to cheat with i guess russia again i don't know what

00:22:46.880 it is um but they won't believe a a verdict of trump is president and i don't know unless it's a blowout i

00:22:58.160 would believe that this was a fair election how do we come together yeah you know i mean

00:23:05.620 my first thought glenn is i think what we need to do is have a really rock solid supreme court with

00:23:11.320 nine justices that we can count on whatever happens from the election we're going to need to have a

00:23:16.200 supreme court that is able to legislate the outcomes right we've got 50 separate state-based

00:23:21.200 elections all of which could end up at the supreme court so i think we need to have an institution that

00:23:25.440 people can trust and rely on that has probably as many justices as usually sit on it to be able to

00:23:30.380 make that decision one two i think what you're going to need to see and on both sides right i don't

00:23:35.720 think this is a uniquely democrat problem but what you're going to need to see is the more trusted

00:23:41.120 respected voices within the institution come back and say okay we have we have it we have things we

00:23:47.020 have norms we have institutions you're going to need if president trump wins re-election you're going

00:23:51.460 to need joe biden and barack obama and nancy pelosi and chuck schumer to get up and say we

00:23:56.440 are accepting the results of this election you see that concerns no i mean i think the problem is i

00:24:02.220 don't i could see it from maybe biden probably obama um but the idea of trusting someone like

00:24:07.720 nancy pelosi or hillary clinton who haven't accepted the results of the 2016 election to come out and say yes

00:24:13.280 i trust that this was fair when we have so many more variables at play um i guess the short answer is

00:24:18.840 yes i i've war gamed it out no i don't have a good i don't have a good answer for how we can walk

00:24:23.240 back from the the abyss we're staring all right thank you very much drew i really appreciate it

00:24:27.620 uh god bless it's mine sir you bet and you as well thank you thank you drew holden uh from the research

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00:24:40.980 long time no see i know it's been too long i know you're i mean you're trapped in california

00:24:53.680 you're gonna slide off into the sea at some point uh just in texas pardon me i was just in texas

00:25:01.100 actually doing that you know california thing of looking around and saying maybe i should get out

00:25:06.200 maybe maybe you haven't been convinced yet what is it now we're first getting out first of all you

00:25:14.640 are getting out yeah first of all before we get into uh your spectator which is an awesome column

00:25:22.040 uh what is it like right now in california you know it's uh it seems like i was gone for two weeks

00:25:31.360 and they i came back and it seems like it's uh settled down a little bit but it feels it's just

00:25:38.920 strange you know i went down to the third street promenade to do some shopping and it's just a

00:25:44.640 reminder of everything still boarded up lots of places are shut down it was weird to be in arizona

00:25:51.120 and texas where things are much more open uh you can just go into restaurants and eat with masks you

00:25:57.580 know everybody seemed to be respectful of wearing masks but they also were still just going about

00:26:03.360 their lives and coming back here it still feels very uh closed up and uh people it's more the

00:26:11.460 interactions with people that are upsetting i feel like everybody's become very suspicious of each other

00:26:18.840 and you know in the beginning of the pandemic there was there was that kind of solidarity we were all in

00:26:25.200 this together and it quickly shifted to you know crossing the street hurriedly and making sure that

00:26:31.220 you're you're it's just strange it's a strange not it doesn't feel hospitable and and the homelessness

00:26:38.320 is really just staggering that's really the thing that is the most noticeable it seems to just keep

00:26:46.100 getting worse so are californians getting it i mean are they starting to see wow wait these guys

00:26:55.140 maybe not maybe maybe this isn't the best way to uh run a government for a state i don't know you

00:27:03.220 know as i've become someone who pays more attention to these things there does seem to be a strange

00:27:10.680 lack of awareness between the people you're voting for and the policies that you're complaining about

00:27:18.300 there i feel and i think with california in particular you'll see people just leave california

00:27:24.760 and i always say to californians you know in my little youtube show on dumpster fire i did a whole

00:27:30.360 rant about this i was saying don't take your crappy policies thank you states where they don't have them

00:27:39.000 because it's not you know that's it's a weird disconnect that i don't fully understand so i'm curious to

00:27:45.920 see what happens in these states where they've received the california refugees

00:27:52.100 so you you write in your uh you write in your column almost every democrat who is voting for

00:27:58.640 trump has a personal story about being ostracized shamed or losing a close friend or family member

00:28:02.940 over politics i thought perhaps after hillary's lost uh the left would learn that bullying people 0.99

00:28:08.180 tone policing and punishing people for wrong think only turns people off how wrong i was

00:28:14.300 mm-hmm i was very wrong i you know it's what's evidence of me being very wrong is that i'm having

00:28:22.980 conversation with you about this and not jake tapper

00:28:26.520 you would think they would want to hear from me um being that i'm somebody who is of the left and

00:28:39.240 still lives in a very liberal place where people feel like because i'm so publicly open about my own

00:28:46.100 independent politics that they can confess their true feelings to me so i hear things just even on

00:28:52.980 the ground and from friends that they would never publicly admit to saying and i feel like every

00:28:59.500 single person who wrote me who's voting for trump who was a former democrat which was a surprising

00:29:07.200 number um it leaned by the way the emails probably i have a thousand at this point leaned much more

00:29:15.600 heavily in favor of trump obviously that could be self-selecting based on my audience i anecdotal is

00:29:22.560 is is what it is but it still seemed like a big pattern of people who independence independence i feel

00:29:31.820 like vote for more policy they seem to say well i can look aside from his character and i can look at

00:29:39.000 what he's doing on paper with the democrats it's it was personal almost every single person writing me

00:29:44.760 had a personal story of i mean people have gotten divorced over this over the politics and the fights

00:29:52.680 and parents have had fallings out with their children their kids aren't talking to them they're not

00:29:58.340 seeing their grandkids this is these were exciting things to read this isn't happened i don't think

00:30:05.660 since the civil war when you know the the split in the family would happen and it really divided the

00:30:12.840 families i mean we've had arguments for a long time with family members but we still got together

00:30:18.120 that's not happening we're we're getting lots of lots of people telling us can't go see my grandkids

00:30:24.780 anymore can't go see my son and daughter can't you know i mean it's nuts yeah it's upsetting that and i

00:30:32.460 see it from the left to the right perspective as well there there are a lot of uh people whose parents

00:30:39.640 have been kind of taken down uh the very far right conspiracy theories that are extremely you know

00:30:47.220 almost in the q anon territory where they're a little bit unreachable and then you see it on the left

00:30:54.140 where the where the you know trump derangement syndrome or whatever you might want to call it

00:30:59.260 um on the right i call it trump devotion syndrome on the left the trump derangement syndrome is is uh

00:31:06.100 very intense and they're they're unreachable so there's just people are truly losing themselves

00:31:14.600 into the tribal instincts and there isn't much because you know unless you're pretty self-aware

00:31:22.880 doing work there there isn't much to stop that process i think once it starts happening and in

00:31:28.520 fact our media and our society is very supportive of that divide and everywhere you're here you'll hear

00:31:35.300 on the left all the time you know breakup you'll see tweets like this all the time i i i stopped talking

00:31:41.040 to my parents i wrote them out i mean that i come from a big huge irish catholic family where everybody

00:31:47.700 was there were lots of different opinions all across the political spectrum there were 10 kids in my dad's

00:31:54.040 family and we it was drilled into us by my grandparents rest in peace they were amazing

00:31:59.940 you do not fight over money or politics blood comes before all of that you just you love each other and

00:32:07.840 have disagreements and yes people would get drunk and the cops would come sometimes but that's a

00:32:13.400 normal irish catholic family yeah right we we still all love each other and we would still make up and

00:32:21.400 we still all have great relationships even if our politics are you know i have i have a very far i have

00:32:29.400 a extremely conservative uncle and i have aunts and uncles who were in the portland protest

00:32:35.560 from protesting and we all still sit down and break bread and love each other that that is where i

00:32:41.360 come from and i i hate seeing this when people talk about the fabric of society starting to shred this is

00:32:49.120 where i'm seeing it the most yeah and it's just upsetting and i get i don't think people can understand

00:32:55.860 what happens also when people feel rejected that that feeling of rejection is um radical

00:33:05.360 it can be radicalizing to people if they suddenly feel ostracized or shamed you know they're just

00:33:11.420 little little stories about people at work being being outed or being it's very strange it's it's such

00:33:19.300 a strange i i don't understand that instinct but it's strange for people to be doing that to one

00:33:25.900 another as if that couldn't turn around and happen to them i gotta tell you it is it is so bizarre

00:33:33.360 um stew is there any doubt in your mind as conservative as this company is we've we've had

00:33:42.740 progressives we've had people work for if if we had somebody who was like a joe biden supporter

00:33:49.120 is there any doubt in your mind that we would all be cool with that person yeah i mean there's there's

00:33:54.920 i don't understand this outing stuff and the shame and the that's awful that's just an awful people

00:34:01.580 that's a group of awful people um let me go ahead go on oh i just i call it like micro cancellations 0.54

00:34:09.380 you know these are we talk a lot about cancel culture just in the discourse and then i think

00:34:15.100 this this evidence of micro cancellations that i'm viewing which is these little ones that are

00:34:20.720 happening all over america in friend groups and in families i don't think we can underestimate

00:34:26.600 that effect the people i hear from who are generally republican voting for biden almost across the

00:34:33.320 board it is a character trump's character that they have the biggest issue with and um some of the

00:34:42.200 corruption and some of the people surrounding him etc with the with the left voting for the right

00:34:47.760 almost every single person has it two things it's being kind of red-pilled by the mainstream media

00:34:56.120 between covid and riots and protests and now even with the saying that the left saying they're gonna

00:35:03.180 get rid of the filibuster and stack the courts and then personal experience of being quote-unquote

00:35:10.360 canceled all right i'm going to continue with bridges phetasy here in just a second i want to play

00:35:17.020 an audio clip and and ask you if you think people uh that vote for democrats actually believe this

00:35:26.580 stuff or if they're just tolerating it when he talks about like black lives matter 93 percent of the

00:35:32.760 protests are peaceful the vast overwhelming majority are peaceful and by the way the seven percent that

00:35:38.580 are not they have a very broad definition of what's not quote-unquote peaceful for example if you

00:35:42.640 block traffic or something like that or if you respond to police provocation and even then a big

00:35:48.560 percentage of that which we that wasn't peaceful is actually outside agitators extremist right-wing

00:35:55.120 agitators posing as protesters in order to make the protests look bad that's the first thing

00:36:00.580 bridget 0.99

00:36:02.200 i mean we're hearing this line just got me we're we're hearing this all the time from the media that

00:36:13.080 that it's a peaceful no the the protest when they started they were peaceful now they're generally a bunch

00:36:20.880 of white punks that are just destroying things because they can um so they're not peaceful and it's

00:36:27.600 certainly not right-wing uh agents coming in are people do people believe that or you just look at

00:36:35.580 it and roll your eyes i don't i i i don't know i i don't i think it depends on the individual really

00:36:43.320 what what you believe so i've been thinking a lot about this because because i'm hearing from so many

00:36:51.260 people who were behind the idea i think everybody was kind of on board of we need to really look at

00:36:58.760 police brutality and then right things everybody i wonder how didn't do we know what percentage of

00:37:04.960 people actually protested you know how many how many people in america because that means a lot of

00:37:11.420 other people were just observing this going down and still probably supporting but not necessarily

00:37:18.760 oh yeah uh i don't know do you know anybody when that when that first uh killing happened do you know

00:37:26.580 anybody that said no police are always right no no we were united we were united and then somehow or

00:37:34.840 another it was used to divide us yeah i i mean i just i i wonder too um what the biggest problem i'm

00:37:47.180 seeing i do think probably if you look statistically at how many protests there were even little ones

00:37:52.520 the majority of them probably were peaceful and they probably went off without a hitch for the most

00:37:57.840 part i i think i think everything that happened during the day probably was peaceful it was just

00:38:02.720 tonight is that a good metric though like so what if only seven percent were violent like that's not

00:38:08.980 acceptable like if you would spend only seven percent of your days murdering someone you'd still be

00:38:13.940 thought of generally as a murderer i don't think people would be like oh well that one day he went

00:38:18.100 and he helped at the soup kitchen no one cares but i don't think necessarily the seven percent are even

00:38:25.820 voting you know this is something where i do i do think that a lot of the people who are dead are

00:38:32.720 violent and this is where i feel the left has done a very bad job the democratic party in general

00:38:38.020 is that they have not divorced themselves from this extremism and in fact you know for all the talk

00:38:44.240 about carrying water and all this stuff i don't see them pushing back hard enough against that

00:38:50.200 violence and if they have started to it's only because they realize that it's pulling that that they

00:38:55.600 need to but for the most part they've they've accepted it and they've allowed it and

00:39:03.200 encouraged that on cnn encouraged it even if it's out of the side of their mouth even so do you do you

00:39:10.640 think the average person that doesn't pay attention to the news that they know that the democrats were

00:39:16.960 like crazy on this uh i i think the problem is that the average person who doesn't pay attention to

00:39:25.860 the news what little they're getting they can't separate the truth from fiction they can't separate

00:39:32.080 the well no they can't separate the seven percent from the 93 so they are going to look at the news

00:39:37.060 and say wow the left is crazy even even i mean to be fair they are but i don't i don't think the

00:39:47.920 majority i know lots of you know people who are kind of i would call biden liberals and my family who

00:39:55.040 are i was laughing about this the other day because i was on the phone with a family member who's

00:39:59.800 old school biden liberal voting for biden and he was like bridgette i'm very worried about you

00:40:06.520 uh in in the aftermath of the election if trump wins which i think he's going to i think you need

00:40:14.260 to get out of la and i was like so the party that you're voting for is gonna burn my city down if they

00:40:22.260 lose like how do i reconcile this it's logic what did he say did you say that to him

00:40:28.620 yeah of course and he he was kind of laughing but he was saying you know that same thing is that

00:40:34.680 those aren't those people aren't voting this is a pretty but he pays more attention to the news i

00:40:41.040 would say then because these antifa people aren't voting they're whoever it is that the agitate the

00:40:47.540 outside agitators no but you but you have the upper end of the democrats actually supporting this

00:40:53.780 stuff uh and it's it's it's really it's it's a frightening time

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The Glenn Beck Program - September 23, 2020

Best of The Program ｜ Guests： Sen. Mike Lee, Drew Holden, & Bridget Phetasy ｜ 9⧸23⧸20

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