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Glenn Beck is joined by Mike Lee and Garrett Ziegler and James Polis to talk about the impact of the Biden laptop on the Biden administration. Also, President Trump announces his support for a primary challenger in the Republican primary for Congress in Utah.
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Really great program today. We talk about everything, your money, the deficit, what's causing the CBO yesterday to come out and say,
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oh yeah, we're going to have to add another, you know, almost half a trillion dollars to this year's debt.
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The businesses that are going out, 25% faster rate than last year.
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But what's causing all of this? Inflation. What's causing that? We talk about it.
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Also, Mike Lee joins me to talk about the difference, the differences that we need to look for in our candidates, especially in the primaries.
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You know, are you going to be a radical and go with these radical Republicans or are you going to go with a rhino?
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We talk about that as well. And Garrett Ziegler joins us. He's from Marco Polo.
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He wrote the report on the Biden laptop, which is just the facts, ma'am.
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And he talks to us about what's coming in September, a huge trial that actually gets to the meat of the business of the Bidens.
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Also, in hour number three of today's, James Polis joins us.
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There is a new advancement in technology where we're running out of power for AI.
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Well, the good news is they're harvesting embryos for their stem cells to make organoids to power AI.
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You're not an expert in that field, so you should talk to somebody that you can trust, that you believe knows what they're doing, has the track record, knows best business practices that can advise you on you should do this and this and this.
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.
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Yesterday, I was called by a newspaper, and I was asked to comment on, you know, the split in the Republican Party.
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And I said, what split in the Republican Party?
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And, of course, there's splits during primaries.
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But they're trying to pit Republicans against Donald Trump and everything else.
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And I tried to make the point, nobody's against each other.
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But once the primaries decided, we're all on the same side.
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But President Trump has just announced his endorsement for a primary for a congressperson in Utah.
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I think she talks a good game on the Constitution.
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But she is somebody that was filling in for Chris Stewart after he had to leave.
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And now she's being asked to be elected full time.
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She voted for the first omnibus, the second omnibus, the NDAA.
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And I think it was Speaker Johnson that convinced Donald Trump to endorse her.
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There's no split between you or me and Donald Trump.
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And as you point out, people are going to back different candidates in elections.
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One of the things you've got to look at is their basis for information.
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In this situation, Donald Trump chose a different candidate.
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Now, look, not at all surprising that House Republican leadership, Speaker Mike Johnson, might want the incumbent to be reelected.
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That is almost as sure as the sun rising in the east.
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That House Republican leadership will try to back the incumbent.
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And based on the timing, it appears that Speaker Mike Johnson almost certainly influenced Trump's thinking on this.
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I think he was spotted at Mar-a-Lago within moments of when this endorsement announcement came out.
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But this is yet another example of why we need to look very carefully at who holds those leadership positions in Congress.
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In any effect, this doesn't change one iota about the fact that we need a conservative fighter.
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We need somebody who will stand up for the Constitution.
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We will need somebody who doesn't give a rip about what the GOP leaders in Congress, what I call the firm, the law firm of Schumer, McConnell, Johnson and Jeffries, says about how they should vote in Congress.
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We need Colby Jenkins, who is a true constitutional conservative.
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He is somebody who will push back against the firm, the swamp and the uniparty and stand for the Constitution.
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So in talking to this reporter, and I'm waiting to see the story.
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It was supposed to come out today, I thought, but it hasn't.
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I'm anxious to see how it is framed, because especially in Utah, I said, you know, in Maine, in Minnesota,
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I can understand that you have to go for a more, quote, moderate, which would mean another Mitt Romney.
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How is it extreme in Utah for a constitutional conservative?
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OK, just even I don't care if you're even liberal.
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All the liberals from Utah should be constitutionalist.
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That state, I mean, that state is one of the most red, white and blue states ever.
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And its its main faith for decades taught the Constitution and taught about the the importance of it and how we need to stand up for it.
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And when the Constitution is hanging by a thread, how could you possibly go for a rhino and call the guy or the the people that are trying to stand up and say,
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no, the answer is restoring our founding documents and restoring order to those founding documents.
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How could that be extreme in a conservative state?
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Well, it's it's it's extreme because people who call themselves moderates are improperly using that term.
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I don't think they understand what that term means.
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Glenn, what is extreme is a thirty five trillion dollar debt that people add to in Congress at a rate of two trillion dollars a year.
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What is extreme is a government that makes you work months out of every year just to pay your federal taxes and then requires you to comply with a Byzantine labyrinth of federal regulations enacted by men and women,
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not of their own choosing, not elected lawmakers contrary to the Constitution.
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What's extreme is a government that uses FISA 702 to engage in warrantless backdoor searches on the American people.
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Those things are extreme. So those people who call themselves moderates back up that system, back up the uniparty and the firm, and then they call themselves moderates.
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Shame on them. But this is why I support Colby Jenkins.
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Anyone within the sound of my voice who agrees ought to go to Colby for Utah dot com and support Colby Jenkins.
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Those living in Utah in the second congressional district should vote for Colby Jenkins.
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And this is nothing against Donald Trump or anything else.
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I have no problem with Donald Trump, Donald Trump.
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He doesn't know all of the he can't keep up with all the people running for Congress and everything else.
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And this one was brought on, I firmly believe, by our speaker,
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our speaker of the House, Mike Johnson, who is I don't know what he is.
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I don't know what he is, but he is not what he presented himself as by any stretch of the imagination.
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And he is the new Mitch McConnell just in the House.
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We have done the rhino thing over and over and over again.
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And it hasn't gotten us anywhere except into deeper debt and more problems.
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restoring the law and order that stems only from the Constitution of the United States,
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the Bill of Rights and Declaration of Independence.
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And everyone in a conservative state should know that.
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And whether they call themselves conservatives or not, if they believe in the U.S. Constitution,
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and if they believe that our federal laws need to be made only by men and women of our own choosing,
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that is those elected to Congress, not by unelected, unaccountable bureaucrats,
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if they believe they shouldn't be spied on without a warrant,
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if they believe that they shouldn't have to work months of every year to pay their federal taxes
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and still be $35 trillion in debt, then they should be behind the Constitution
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I don't fault Donald Trump one iota, one ounce of this.
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And unfortunately, the people who gave him that information made a critical error.
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This is why we need new leadership in Congress.
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And that starts by electing Colby Jenkins to the Utah 2nd Congressional District.
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And, you know, especially in conservative states, if, you know, there are constitutionalists running,
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do not allow them to paint those people as extremists.
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Since when has the Bill of Rights and the idea that we are a democratic republic,
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that democracy happens on voting day, and then the republic kicks in and represents us,
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Since when has being a republic been controversial?
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When did you just, when they say this, I'm sorry, my belief in the Bill of Rights and the Constitution
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Yeah, look, the most extreme thing about our government is that it is too big,
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it is too expensive, it is too intrusive, and it recognizes very few limits on its authority.
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Now, oddly enough, the people who love that nonsense, the people who love to make people subjects rather than citizens,
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are the ones using the E-word, and they should turn it right back on themselves.
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And if they won't, we'll do it for them, and we'll elect people like Colby Jenkins to Congress to get it done.
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We're in an era of not being able to even point out the fact that we have a commander-in-chief
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who can't even get through a sentence anymore, and then we're told that that's some kind of cheap fake or deep fake.
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How can we get it through to our friends and relatives that we see this guy disintegrating right before our very eyes,
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and the only thing we can expect are bad policies and bad candidates if we don't wake up and do something about this?
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I have never been for removing somebody just because I don't like them or anything else.
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This is different than impeachment for the crimes that I believe have been committed.
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This is the guy is not capable in emergency situations of processing things.
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Yesterday, he had a breakdown on stage that was terrifying.
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First of all, in response to Pat's question, we do have to rule out the possibility that he might have learned Greek
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or some other absurd language that we know nothing about.
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As for the phrases, he might just be receiving some sort of telecommunication that we can't understand.
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But if neither of those is the case, then we really are in 25th Amendment territory.
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And we're also in the territory where we've got a government where the people doing the maneuvering
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aren't the people elected to do that job, which is the same problem we've got in the legislative branch.
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We've delegated it all to the executive branch.
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And then the guy running the executive branch apparently can't find his way off of a stage.
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And that's why every vote you count, especially for federal office right now,
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because that's where the government is most broken, is in Washington, D.C.
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And that's why you've got to study these candidates carefully and look for the candidate that most
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faithfully scrutinizes each and every decision by government to make sure that it comports with
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He is the founder of Marco Polo and the chairman.
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In fact, you can find it at marcopolo501c3.org.
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And they have put together the report on the Biden laptop.
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This is something that, you know, I bought two copies of.
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In fact, I bought just another two copies just the other day.
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And one of those copies is for the vault, our history vault, because this is the truth
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But the important stuff is about the money, the money from oligarchs and the business,
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if you will, that Joe Biden certainly had nothing to do with.
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I'm honored that you'd say it was for a time capsule.
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I think there was one other book that I have I've purchased here recently in the last year
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that also I felt belonged in the time capsule or the vault.
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Historians will be able to look back on this and go, what the hell were they thinking?
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Well, that made Hunter's wife's flare up outside of the courtroom two weeks ago at me so much,
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It was it was a minor story that her his wife, his second wife, Melissa Cohen, who he married
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after six days, called me a Nazi outside of the courtroom.
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And it's funny because, you know, I was just a member of the of the public there.
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And the reason why it's so ridiculous is because, like you say, the report does not editorialize
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You know, what we are doing essentially is digital archaeology.
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What I mean by that is when we say Hunter solicited a prostitute, it's not enough for us just to say
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that we find a Venmo email notification and then corroborate that with a photo using the metadata embedded within that photo.
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And it's not that glamorous, but I find it fun.
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They sued you and said that you were illegally hacking into the laptop, which any truth?
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And even Hunter got Winston and Strawn, one of the most prominent law firms in America,
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to sign off on it, partly because they just want Kevin Morris' cash, although we're hearing
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But we were sued by both Hunter in September, but then also last May, his caveman-looking
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sugar brother, the guy with the deep pockets who's been funding all these legal misadventures,
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Of course, it was dismissed, but he's appealing that in the California appellate court.
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And I think they know in their souls they're just lashing out, but their goal is to try to
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It's a strategic lawsuit against public participation.
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And they even tried to get the IRS to stop allowing you to use a 5013C status, correct?
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I laughed just because they basically thrown the kitchen sink at us.
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Abby Lowell has now, going on 17 months, basically tried everything, went to the IRS, that failed.
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I was the witness for the mother of Hunter's child in Arkansas before that case was settled,
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about four months before the case was settled, when the litigation was still ongoing.
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She realized that this weird young guy, I'm referring to myself, went through the device
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and said, well, he knows more about Hunter's finances than anyone.
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And so she had me as a witness, and that made them blow a gasket.
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So they tried to get me removed from the case and that failed.
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But they think that I have this vendetta against Hunter, whereas I look at Hunter as a tragic,
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cheap, political harlot who sold his family's name.
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There was this ridiculous profile in the Washington Post about our group last September,
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I think that this story, like you said, is one of the most incredible of the 21st century
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because it shows the lengths that Joe went to collect cash.
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It is, yeah, it is, you know, someday, again, historians will look back on this evidence
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How did this, how was this not evident to everyone?
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And the cover-up is always worse than the actual information.
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And that's hard to say that the cover-up will be worse than the crime because this crime
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that I believe happened and is, you know, your book shows a lot of the evidence.
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It's hard to beat this crime, but the cover-up is just distorting everything in America
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I've never thought of it like that, but I think it's spot-on that usually the cover-up
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is worse, but you could say that the cover-up this time is commensurate with the severity
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You mentioned in the opening the Watergate scandal, and I agree with you completely.
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I think it was a third-rate burglary, but I was watching because I'm a one for punishment.
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I was watching this cheerleading interview they did with Bob Woodward and Carl Bernstein
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The way they gloat over this small third-rate burglary vis-a-vis the foreign oligarch connections
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I think that would be, as the kids say, one of the greatest black pills is that they have
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been milking this Watergate bonanza for 50 years, Carl Bernstein and Bob Woodward.
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I mean, by themselves, they're just standard reporters.
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There's nothing special about them, but because they toppled Nixon, they've been revered as
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And, you know, they were my age when they put the water—they were both 28 when they put
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But essentially, the way Jonathan Carl was talking about them, you'd think they were
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like bishops in the Catholic Church of journalism.
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And yet, like you said, it doesn't even compare.
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Well, I mean, it still was—I mean, I still think it was impeachable and everything else,
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but they've lost any platform they should have had because of that by now selectively not
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coming in and saying, well, no, this is no big deal.
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You know, you can't be a hero unless you take on your own side as well.
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You can't root out corruption if it's only halfway.
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Yes, and that's one of the ironies of them labeling us.
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Like, they want us to be labeled a, you know, a Trumpist organization.
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But we actually spend more time in this report talking about Republicans.
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For example, here's one tidbit that came out during our research.
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Of the 51 former spooks who signed the letter on October 19, 2020, there are more Republicans
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That list is a who's who of establishment Republicans that went all in for Joe.
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And there are so many instances within the laptop of influence peddling with Republicans.
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I mean, Hunter was good friends with Strom Thurmond's son-in-law, who's a big Republican lobbyist
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And, you know, that was Joey's brand for 36 years in the Senate.
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So the laptop is not just, oh, a Republican, you know, hitting stick.
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And all we tried to do was bring specificity to that.
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And, you know, I'm not sure if your listeners know this, but they can go and download and
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view all 128,000 emails from the device at BidenLaptopEmails.com for free.
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And that's one of the things driving Hunter and his attorneys up a wall is we've done all
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this sort of as a charity, as a, you know, as a for free, there's no barrier to entry.
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Anybody with an internet connection can go to BidenLaptopEmails.com and search my keyword.
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And so they can fact check you and I in real time as we talk about this.
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So when I talk about, you know, Venmo notifications for prostitute and drug purchases, you know,
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You can go to BidenLaptopEmails.com and I think that's one of the cool things we've done is
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now that Julian Assange is tragically in the pen for no good reason, they have, they hate
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that we're sort of a mini version of WikiLeaks for the laptop.
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That's really what they, what we're trying to do and they hate that.
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He is the Blaze Media Editor at Large and the Blaze TV host of Zero Hour.
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He is also the founder and editor or editorial director of Return, which is a new vertical
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We have several different things that we're working on and one of them is Return, just like
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He wrote a story that is one of the more disturbing dystopian stories.
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And we've done our homework on this to some degree enough to go, oh no, this is actually
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in practice and being used by the University of Michigan right now.
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Environmentalists are worried about how do we make enough power to be able to power AI?
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Well, that's better before I read your story on organoids.
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And it's been around for a little while, but it's really starting to kick into gear.
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As you said, you know, AI consumes a ton of electricity, a lot of energy.
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You know, environmentalists have always hated nuclear power for pretty perverse reasons,
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I think, and so they're so afraid of using nuclear power that what's in vogue now is turning
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Just take those stem cells out of embryos or out of the lab, sometimes even out of tumors,
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turn them into brain cells, basically, and use those as batteries to power what they're
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They say it'll use about a million times less power than a typical digital processor,
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You know, it's from the same folks who brought you the idea of going to carbon zero, net zero
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They look at human beings as a waste of space, a waste of energy, and they want to harness
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that to run AI that's supposed to be smarter than anyone can understand.
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So on FinalSpark's website, this is the company that's doing this, they link to a Daily Mail
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article that says, organoids are tiny, self-organized, three-dimensional tissue cultures made from
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Stanford's website says stem cells come from two sources, embryonic stem cells.
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And then, you know, that's unused embryos, and they are then donated to science, or adult
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stem cells, but those are really limited and can only generate certain types of cells.
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So they also say, FinalSpark's website says, these organoids live for about 100 days.
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So are we harvesting embryos, using them to power a supercomputer for 100 days, and then
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killing them and looking for more embryo stem cells?
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So, you know, if you're uncomfortable with IFV, this stuff is going to drive you nuts.
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There's an extra category of stem cells that they've created called induced pluripotent
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And basically what you do is you start the embryonic process, but you arrest it before it
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And then you harvest the stem cells out of this artificially induced embryonic organism,
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And then you create a fork, and you just grow those cells, you know, sort of in the way that
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You know, it's really akin to cancerous cells in the way that they grow.
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So this is something that, you know, it's not one and done.
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It's not like, well, maybe once upon a time there was an embryo who had to die for the
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Final Spark says the University of Michigan already using this neuro platform.
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And this is, this is because there's not enough energy and these, these organoids, um, use
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so much less energy that if we just harvest these embryos, um, we can then, um, AI can go
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on and live forever and we don't have energy problems.
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I mean, at a certain point, you got to ask, you know, if we were created in the image
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of God, how far can you stray from that before, uh, before something really horrible happens?
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I mean, Nikola Tesla, back when he was alive, that, uh, infamously said, you will live to
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see man-made horrors beyond your comprehension.
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You have, um, you now have scientists who don't, don't necessarily believe in God, think that
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they are creating a God in AI now harvesting God's creation to power their new God.
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And if you cross that Rubicon where you say, okay, we're going to turn these, uh, these,
00:34:22.740
these brain cells into cyborgs into Frankenstein cells, uh, then it's not very long before
00:34:28.760
you say like, well, gosh, why don't we just turn the whole human race into this kind of
00:34:33.420
You know, uh, the Terminator, at least the machines are stomping around looking to wipe
00:34:38.680
Uh, these machines are going to look at us more as the solution than the problem because
00:34:45.640
You know, I was reading a, um, a reading a book about energy and how all this is, is going
00:34:51.880
and, um, it will, I mean, if it's an entity that needs food, needs energy to live just like
00:35:00.980
us, you're trapped in the mountains, uh, you know, in a snowstorm and there's 20 of you
00:35:07.120
and you start dying, you're going to start eating each other.
00:35:19.880
Uh, I'd rather not train it to eat people or anything with to do with people.
00:35:26.660
Well, especially when you got nuclear power there and, you know, to their credit, there
00:35:29.960
are some tech guys out there who are working on, uh, advanced forms of nuclear power, clean
00:35:34.420
energy coming out of, uh, things that you can do splitting up, uh, atoms and the like.
00:35:38.480
Uh, yeah, there are risks there, but gosh, I mean, if we're going to go down this road
00:35:42.180
to any degree where we're going to need significantly more energy, uh, in order to, uh, you know,
00:35:47.180
whether it's stay ahead of China or whatever excuse you want to come up with, uh, or just,
00:35:51.840
you know, for, for the, for the sake of, uh, of, of more human flourishing, uh, imagine
00:35:56.340
that, uh, gosh, you gotta, you gotta take a look at nuclear before you start looking
00:36:01.800
at the guy sitting next to you as your source of energy.
00:36:05.200
I saw a story yesterday about, um, here in Idaho that they're shutting down the water
00:36:14.400
They're shutting down the water for, I don't even remember half a million acres or, or more
00:36:23.440
So all these farmers are going to lose their farmland, but coincidentally, what is also
00:36:28.720
happening at exactly the same time is they are opening up cobalt mines in Idaho and these
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cobalt mines need tons of water to keep the drills cool and everything else.
00:36:43.840
So it appears, uh, as if the state of Idaho shafted the farmers and said, forget about
00:36:53.500
the food, transfer the water to the cobalt mines so we can have batteries.
00:37:11.180
And you know, what else is crazy about Idaho, Glenn is right now there's some Bitcoin mining
00:37:15.780
Now, you know, a lot of people sort of don't understand how Bitcoin works.
00:37:18.580
They're skeptical, but this is something that is still a front first rate technology that
00:37:25.900
Uh, it takes, you know, maybe a minute or two to learn how to do it, but you can do it
00:37:29.180
when the Bitcoin miners take the energy that they need in order to do what they do.
00:37:38.080
So they're looking at, uh, curbing the ability of the miners to use electricity or even charging
00:37:45.740
Meanwhile, when Facebook comes to town in Idaho and they say, Hey, we're building a gigantic
00:37:53.480
The legislators say, well, if you're creating jobs, we'll actually give you a tax cut.
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This is how messed up our priorities are right now.
00:38:00.160
Um, I don't know if you saw, um, the godfather of AI, but, uh, Jeffrey Hinton, he's the guy
00:38:11.120
And he left, he left Google because he said they were going into some unethical things and
00:38:22.120
Um, and he said, uh, he had real fear at Google that the, that AI would fall into the hands
00:38:30.540
Um, he just did an interview, um, where, uh, he, he said that, um, uh, he was asked the
00:38:41.400
question here, if he was in favor of a super intelligent AI destroying humanity and replacing
00:38:48.440
it with something objectively better in terms of consciousness, he said, I'm actually for
00:38:54.220
it, but I think it'd be wiser for me to say that I'm against it.
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He was then pressed on and asked him, can you elaborate?
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He said, well, people don't like being replaced.
00:39:08.060
He said, it's not, it's, it's, it's not clear that we're the best form of intelligence that
00:39:14.780
Obviously from a person's perspective, everything relates to people, but it may be that there
00:39:21.200
comes a point when we see things like humanist as a racist term, we're dealing with people
00:39:28.580
who are very, very smart and very, very clever, but many of these people are anti-human and
00:39:37.140
they hide behind the environmentalist thing, um, to, uh, to get away with it.
00:39:46.380
I mean, you, if, if you're looking for a, an intelligence that's higher than human intelligence
00:39:50.520
that actually doesn't want to kill us, but in fact loves us with a love beyond human
00:39:54.640
comprehension, it's right there in the form of God, the creator.
00:39:59.360
Um, and if you reject the existence of God, then it's just really looking like these days,
00:40:04.660
only a matter of time before you reject the existence of human beings too.
00:40:08.980
I know there's some, some atheists out there who think that human beings are still good,
00:40:12.600
but it's looking like they're outnumbered and they're losing the battle for the soul of
00:40:18.980
I mean, these tech guys, some of them, they have really just, they, they do hate humanity
00:40:23.740
and they think that intelligence is, is more important than, than love.
00:40:28.040
They think the brain is more important than the heart.
00:40:30.800
And, uh, you know, it all sounds interesting when it's at the level of theory, but when you
00:40:34.560
ask them to develop it out into practice, it doesn't mean replacing humans.
00:40:41.180
So which, which movie do you think is more likely?
00:40:45.560
I mean, I never thought the matrix, but the matrix, you know, batteries, human batteries,
00:40:52.880
and it creating a utopia, uh, in people's minds.
00:40:58.960
I mean, remember the, the beginning of, uh, Skynet and the Terminator, the first line,
00:41:05.300
I think in that movie is the machines rose from the ashes in the nuclear fire.
00:41:11.920
It was AI that had been used by the Pentagon and the world's war machines.
00:41:17.360
Um, and then we blew, blew ourselves up and AI decided we were the problem and started to
00:41:23.660
Here we are talking about the absolute unthinkable world war three, which would end in nuclear
00:41:36.400
And we are giving the keys to much of our, uh, work.
00:41:40.600
We just had a Jack car on yesterday where he was talking about, you know, he said, I, nobody
00:41:46.480
would tell me exactly, but if I talk to enough people, they're putting it all together and
00:41:50.460
you can look at it and go, Oh, we're turning the keys over, uh, to our, uh, of our killing,
00:42:04.800
Which, which movie are we, are we going towards?
00:42:09.880
It's kind of like, you know, are we brave new world or 1984?
00:42:15.020
Are we headed more towards, uh, uh, the Terminator or the matrix?
00:42:22.840
Well, you know, we got lots of sci-fi movies to choose from.
00:42:26.380
Uh, I would, I would point toward, uh, you know, we've got sci-fi horror films that we
00:42:33.960
We got, uh, series like, uh, like Hellraiser where the bad guys are interdimensional demons
00:42:39.160
who, uh, get summoned by human beings and, and, uh, lead them into hell.
00:42:43.480
Uh, we've got, you know, David Cronenberg, uh, Videodrome.
00:42:47.440
He's got other films, you know, that really show you that, yeah, there is that side of
00:42:51.940
technology that makes you sort of fill you with childlike wonder and, and all these promises
00:43:00.000
And if we pretend the dark side isn't there, that's usually the, the way that, uh, we get
00:43:06.820
So is there anything that can be done, uh, going back to the first topic of using stem
00:43:13.320
cells from embryos for human brains, uh, into these organoids?
00:43:18.420
Is there, is there anything that we should be looking towards or pushing for or, or what?
00:43:26.680
Well, you know, I mean, I think number one, we got to ask ourselves some serious questions
00:43:31.020
about, uh, uh, uh, how enslaved we're going to be.
00:43:35.780
If we are always looking to China, if we look at China and say, uh, this, they're, they're
00:43:40.640
taking over, you know, we can't beat them unless we join them or we have to fight fire
00:43:45.160
If we are constantly comparing ourselves to what the Chinese are doing, we're going to lose
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And depending on how things shake out as human beings, that's point one.
00:43:58.100
You want, you want to, to innovate on energy, look to nuclear.
00:44:01.700
Um, this is, this is not some, some bizarre new technology.
00:44:07.040
Uh, some countries that, you know, the French, the Japanese, yeah, they had Fukushima, but they
00:44:14.920
Uh, there are ways of doing plentiful energy that don't involve turning human beings into
00:44:19.640
these sort of Frankenstein cyborgs and using them for energy.
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