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On today's show, Glenn and Stu talk about the latest in politics, immigration, the border crisis, and much, much more. Glenn also gives his take on the latest on the Democratic Debates, the town hall debate, and so much more!
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Well, hello, Stu. Got a little dicey today with the politics and everything that was happening yesterday.
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So many big stories in one day. What a weird 24 hours.
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Yeah, like all of these huge stories, including the prime minister of Poland,
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talking about how two politicians went to the presidential palace there and they were arrested.
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And the president had already pardoned them and everything else.
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And he said, for the first time since communism, we have political prisoners.
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And then in Canada, the reporter that was arrested on the street for, what was it, attacking a police officer?
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And the video is there. That's not what happened at all.
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The president also came out and he's going to have the Department of Labor put out the same thing that Gavin Newsom did for gig workers.
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It's working well for Gavin Newsom. They're in the middle of a budget emergency.
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So, I mean, why not replicate what they're doing out there?
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Maybe later we can go through some of this polling on the border, Glenn,
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because, you know, it's a huge vulnerability for Biden going into this election.
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When they're kicking people out of their schools.
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How does it feel that you can tell the kid that is a mom?
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I doubt this mom was, you know, a diehard voter one way or another.
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I mean, there's going to be a lot of, it might be, but.
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And their kids are being kept out of school and told they got to go someplace else because
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all of these migrants are coming in, not migrants, I'm sorry, illegal aliens coming in, and they're
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You don't know if these are criminals, are felons, are mass murderers, and they just moved into this
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And we can only make these things because of you and try to find the real story.
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And the real story on this has been missed by almost everybody.
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And we expose it because it was so, when you actually go down and you're trying to find
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the truth, it's not what you heard and it's not necessarily, you know, what the development
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But this does not, this is the fastest growing development in Texas.
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Aren't they selling like 200 lots a day or something ridiculous?
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It's going to be the biggest city in the southeast or southwest pretty soon.
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Oh, I mean, it is 30 minutes outside of Houston.
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They're just here to make a better life for themselves.
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Just a bunch of families coming in, wanting a better life.
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Well, that's the word that people agree with most now.
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And rather than a crisis, they're saying it's an invasion.
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The American people are starting to wake up to it.
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I don't know if they're awake enough to elect a new leader who's going to do something about this, but I sure hope so.
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Well, Mike Lee is on today because Mike Lee is saying no budget, no border, no budget, no border, no budget.
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You know, they torpedoed, 12 of them torpedoed the budget yesterday in the House.
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I mean, this charade we went through with throwing McCarthy out as if it was going to make some difference.
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A lot of the people who were responsible for that, I haven't heard word one from, by the way.
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And I don't think Johnson's the worst guy in the world or anything.
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They fail over and over again when they have power.
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Who's best equipped, do you think, after everything we've seen so far in this campaign, to do something substantial on the border?
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Right, but I don't know if he would have the muscle.
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He could be out on the road, be a bully pulpit.
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You've seen him with the press over the past few weeks, especially.
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You've mentioned this before, I know, Glenn, with Vavake as a potential Trump VP type of
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And it's like, you know, I mean, you could see it.
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He's certainly a different approach, let's say, a more well-spoken and sort of refined
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And like, what you might point out as issues with Vavake, if you're looking at him generally,
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like, you know, occasionally he does go down certain roads.
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He's had some odd comments on, you know, 9-11, for example, that might cause a normal candidate
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That's not going to cause Donald Trump any problems.
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That would be like, oh, yeah, whatever, whatever, yeah.
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But, you know, World Trade Center number seven collapsing later that day is really the conspiracy
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I don't, you know, I don't embrace any of them.
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But still, like, you know, I think if you talk to Vavake, he's not saying, well, it's
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He's saying like, okay, well, they lie to us about Saudi Arabia's involvement.
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He makes it sound like he's Alex Jones on the issue, and he's... I don't think he is.
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And then you might think that because he brings Alex Jones on his podcast and then goes on
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But, like, his vulnerabilities as a candidate, the places he's, you know, weak or questionable as a lead
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candidate are all issues that Donald Trump could roll through without even thinking about it on a
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Like, none of those problems that Vavake might present to a Nikki Haley, he doesn't present
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Donald Trump will be like, oh, yeah, well, actually, I think it was a conspiracy.
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So, like, you know, it's an interesting fit because, you know, Vavake would be able to go on all these
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shows and just constantly roll over media people attacking Trump.
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And if that's a job you'd think Trump would really like to have a bulldog, you know, Pence was a
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Pence was like, hey, a lot of, you know, evangelical people don't trust me right now in 2016.
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I need someone who will give me that credibility.
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And Pence filled that role and basically didn't, you know, never disagreed with him for four years.
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I mean, I know everyone talks about January 6th, but, like, before January 6th, Pence was very
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subservient to Donald Trump basically the entire time.
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Like, he literally said while running for president in a debate that Donald Trump was the best president
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And it's like, if you believe that, let him run again.
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But, you know, Vavake as a number two in that role, there is there's something to it.
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However, however, let's play the the game of you need all of the Republicans.
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That would lead me to believe if if Nikki Haley does well in in Iowa, if she comes in second
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in Iowa and, you know, you you leave DeSantis kind of in the dust, I think DeSantis could be
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It's a close third, you know, if it's like one or two points away.
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If it was him versus Nikki Haley, all polling of Republicans shows he would he would beat Nikki
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But the question is, when when given the Trump the three way choice here with Trump and Haley
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and DeSantis, the DeSantis people who like DeSantis are more likely to vote for Trump.
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If Trump isn't there, DeSantis may say, OK, well, I have a path forward.
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You know, I mean, again, we have to take these things seriously because, you know, the entire
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U.S. government seems to be aligned to try to destroy Donald Trump.
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So you have to think of what happens as a secondary choice here.
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And so DeSantis might see a path forward there.
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But in a traditional primary, if all he has spent all of his resources in Iowa, if he finishes
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third, there's a new poll today that shows him in third, by the way, if that is true
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But if that is true, he's got to be toast, right?
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If you spend all of this time, all of these resources on Iowa and you finish third behind
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Nikki Haley in a state that's like Iowa, that's catastrophic for this campaign.
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This is where that really cold, cold front could help DeSantis.
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Because his people are going to be hopefully motivated.
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If he's behind Nikki Haley, they'd be either they'll either give up or they'll be motivated
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to get out to the caucus and really caucus for him and be strong.
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He's got the best organization, I think, in the entire state.
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I talked to Steve Dace yesterday who kind of outlined that same idea.
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I've heard that he is killing it on the ground.
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I mean, look, the poll, that poll that I mentioned that has DeSantis in third place also has Trump
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The weather could definitely play a part in this, though.
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And if you're a Trump voter and you're thinking like he's up by 30, why am I really going to
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I wish Senate GOP leaders would admit that Biden already has the power to stop the border surge,
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And two, passing new laws, paying $106 billion as the price of admission won't change that.
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When this effort fails, Biden will blame the GOP for the surge.
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By not including Speaker Johnson in these border security negotiations to give him what he needs,
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Senate R's are setting up GOP to get blamed for the border.
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This gives Biden and the Democrats a massive win.
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Biden will never enforce the law, and Dem AGs will litigate it to death and ensure that none of it takes effect.
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Those advocating for this deal, including members of both parties, are setting Republicans up for failure.
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Nothing that's in this deal, which we still haven't seen, but it's been described to us in broad terms,
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would stop the current surge in the border, and some of its provisions might as well, might make the surge far worse.
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No one believes this can pass the House because it's got serious problems, so why are we setting up Republicans?
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Perhaps the firm has now ousted Speaker Johnson and renamed it as the law firm of Schumer, McConnell, and Jeffries.
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You give me a little bit of hope because I've been wondering about Speaker Johnson.
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You're saying now that he's cut out of this in the Senate, and that might mean that he's actually a good guy.
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Yeah, it appears to me that Speaker Johnson, who I met with this morning, has not been in the loop on this at all.
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It appears to me also that Speaker Johnson knows that this has no realistic hope of going anywhere in the House,
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and I believe Speaker Johnson also understands that President Biden has the authority to address the border crisis
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in a meaningful way to get the numbers down low the way they were before President Trump left office.
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And one of the dangerous things about this game is that by setting this up,
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we're almost taking accountability away from President Biden by buying into the narrative
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and implicitly furthering the narrative that says that this whole border crisis,
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the humanitarian crisis unfolding there, the rule of law chaos,
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the invasion of the United States of America by people from all over the world,
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including not just from Latin America, but from places like, oh, I don't know, Afghanistan and Syria.
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This is occurring for want of adequate legislation, for a lack of adequate federal law.
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Look, Glenn, the bottom line is this all started and all gets perpetuated through our asylum laws.
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And our asylum laws at the outset are discretionary.
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They're written in may language rather than shall language.
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They contemplate that when someone comes in, crosses our border without documentation,
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They're supposed to be incarcerated until their claim can be adjudicated.
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And if and only if they're deemed eligible for it, then they're admitted.
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But what these guys are doing, they're saying, well, we ran out of bed space.
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We don't have enough time or people and enough beds to process all of them and hold them.
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So what we're going to do is just release them into the interior of the country.
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In fact, we're going to buy them a plane ticket and they can board that plane without a driver's
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We'll just fly them into the country and we'll tell them, have fun.
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We'll probably contact you for your immigration hearing, which may be 10 or 12 years down the
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And within 180 days, we'll give you a work permit.
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What they could and should do is say that because there is no affirmative right to asylum by anybody
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coming into this country without documentation, there's no affirmative right that we have to
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The president and Secretary Mayorkas should say, once we're no longer able to process all of
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them, we're going to stop even considering asylum applications for people who cross our borders
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without documentation and thereafter seek asylum.
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This whole negotiation presupposes that this is, you know, somehow based on a lack of adequate
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Sure, some of our laws are messed up and need to be fine tuned.
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The problem is that President Biden defiantly refuses to enforce them.
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You say that this law, if passed, might even make things worse.
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Well, there are elements of it that might make things better, but there are elements of it
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that might turn up the electromagnetic pole for illegal migrants.
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For example, there are provisions that would eliminate the 180 day waiting period between
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the time someone is released from the initial screening into the interior of the country.
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They have to wait 180 days between that moment and the moment they get their work permit.
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They would get it immediately after their release from the initial screening period.
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Number two, while it would give a new Title 42-like authority to the president to shut down
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the border in ways that we can't yet ascertained because we haven't seen bill checks, they won't
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let us see it because they're still negotiating it.
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I don't know why that means we can't see it, but whatever.
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However, they're negotiating that, and that sounds great, that, you know, once we've achieved
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5,000 migrant encounters a day, and we're several times that right now, that the president
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would have authority in unspecified ways to sort of shut down the whole process of the
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border, the process by which people entering by land without documentation could be brought
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But then it says it can do that for only 14 consecutive days.
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And initially for a maximum of 275 days per year, ratcheting down over two or three years
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Well, just what that does, Glenn, that allows El Chapo's successors and interests and other
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like-minded international criminal cartels to game the system, to calendar around when they'll
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bring in these uncontrolled waves of illegal immigration.
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This will just guarantee that they will be able to have free reign because the president
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Okay, so Mike, you know, the budget thing, I have been watching you, and thank you for
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being one of the good guys, and no border, no budget.
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That should be a mantra all around the country.
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But the Republicans are going to shoot themselves.
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Again, they're going to say, oh my gosh, this is horrible.
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You know, we're going to shut down the government because of these extreme Republicans who everyone
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And I don't know why the GOP is acting the way they do.
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I don't know if they're in bed just for themselves or big business or whatever.
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But if you've got the Mitch McConnells and the machinery of the GOP not standing behind,
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no border, no budget, it's just going to be a nightmare again.
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The simple demand is secure the border or shut it down.
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Now, there's some flexibility in what the it is, whether that's the whole government
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or the Department of Homeland Security or the White House toilet paper budget.
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But regardless, there needs to be some consequence.
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Something, someone, somewhere needs to be defunded directly as a result of the refusal
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And it is willful and it is politically motivated.
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They need to face consequences from that by the Congress.
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Remember, you can't really pass any spending legislation without going through the Republican
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You can't even pass any spending legislation separate and apart from the Republican controlled
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House without getting at least nine votes from Republicans in the Senate in addition to
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So, if Republicans really wanted to hold them to this, we could impose some consequence,
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whether that's shutting down DHS for a while until they get their act together, until they
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I'm agnostic as to what exactly ought to be defunded during that period, but we've got to
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defund something because we can't pretend this is business as usual.
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We cannot, must not reward them for inviting an invasion and acting as if nothing has to change
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Mike, thanks for flying the flag and trying to keep the Republic safe.
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Can I ask you a quick question on the Donald Trump lawsuits?
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I mean, is the Supreme Court going to rule that this is unconstitutional?
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I mean, how can you keep somebody off a ballot quoting the Constitution if the guy has never
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Yeah, that seems really problematic to me, problematic on many levels, including and especially the fact
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that not one person, certainly not Donald Trump, has even been charged with, much less convicted
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Donald Trump hasn't been convicted of anything close to that.
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There are some other more technical, less intuitive reasons in there.
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Some of the language used in Section 3 of the 14th Amendment specifically references some
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offices, not the presidency, indicating that it does not apply to President Trump.
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But in any event, for three or four independent reasons, I will be shocked if the Supreme Court
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does anything other than overturn the Colorado Supreme Court, which acted lawlessly and in
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I will not be surprised at all if the decision is either unanimous or near unanimous.
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And they're going to have to act soon, because otherwise this is going to cause absolute chaos.
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And you may see this metastasize throughout the country.
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So the court likes to be deliberative, so this will require them to act more quickly than
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I suspect that within a few weeks of argument, you may see the opinion of the court released.
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Well, it's already too late in Denver or in Colorado.
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They've already printed the ballots, and his name is not on it.
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And there are states now saying, oh, you want to play that game?
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I mean, this is, we have constitutional crisis after constitutional crisis, and I don't hear
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I've issued and made some tweets about that one over the holidays on my Based Mike Lee
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account that explains some of the reasons why this thing is so out of control.
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Sheena Bellows, the Secretary of State in Maine, reached the same decision.
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This song, which I've released to no one, is called, it's to the tune of Sheena is a punk
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And it's something along the lines of, Sheena is a woke Marxist, but we'll leave that one
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He is the managing editor for Return for Blaze Media.
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He covers human stories in the digital age, from crypto to AI to transhumanism.
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Thank you so much for having me on today, Glenn.
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You just did something on virtual sex, one of the essays, and it was unbelievable and unbelievably
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Researching that story, it was tough talking to a lot of young men who were dealing with
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It was tough, but yeah, it's crazy what's happening in that space and where society is
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So, tell me, you're at the Consumer Electronics Show.
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What is the feeling there on what's new, exciting, spooky?
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Well, it's, I mean, you know, Consumer Electronics Show, it always is rolling out some of the
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You know, they've rolled out the VCR and home video game systems in the past.
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They're trying to integrate artificial intelligence, large language models with every conceivable
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Now, I mean, most of these things are, okay, do you need AI for your toilet?
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But I think we're definitely going to see some products that break through and are utilizing
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this technology in ways that will have transformative effects on society.
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You know, there's a lot of integrations coming of, you know, there's forward-facing consumer
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products like ChatGPT that people are using, and, you know, sometimes it's silly stuff like
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But I think there's a lot in the background of, like, you know, companies that are creating
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AI that could do a lot of contract work that a lot of lawyers do now.
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How far away are we from a personal assistant that is really good?
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There's some products here already that are utilizing AI to basically interact with your
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So instead of researching best flights, you know, if you're trying to go to New York City
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for vacation, you can just tell the AI to find the app and book your plane, and it just
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So I think it's very reasonable to think in within 18 months, we're going to see an
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assistant that's very competent and is taking away a lot of menial tasks away from a person.
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Yeah, so I wrote about this in a diary for Unreturned.
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And it was in the Amazon, like, home of the future.
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So, you know, it's got all kinds of creepy Amazon Alexa integrated tag where your bed is
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watching you at night, and you can talk, Alexa pumps its voice into your head through glasses.
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But then I got to the Moxie, and it's, I mean, you almost have to see it in person to really realize how creepy it is.
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But it's this small robot with this human-like face that's on a screen, but it's all integrated with chat GPT-4, and it's designed to talk to children.
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And, I mean, if you go on YouTube, there's a lot of clips of it asking kids very creepy, weird questions.
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Yeah, but good news is it'll go up to the cloud, and all of that information about your child will be there forever, which is...
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And the good thing is you don't have to, you know, you don't have to raise your kid anymore.
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You can just rely on this robot to do it for you.
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What is the, what's the talk about central bank digital currencies?
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And, you know, kind of the, we're going to make all of your problems disappear.
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You know, a lot of people, it's hard to get them on record.
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You know, they express fears and concerns even with, you know, they work at these tech companies, but obviously they don't want to go on record.
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You know, the CBD-C, I would encourage your listeners to do some research.
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There's a great, we have some articles on return kind of summarizing in their own words all the people who are advocating for this technology.
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Um, so it's kind of this, this sort of Damocles that's hanging over everything.
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But one thing I'll, I'll say that I was noticing is there's a ton of companies that are harvesting biometric data, your health, your health things.
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And then what they're doing with that technology or with that information, no one knows.
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There's a, there's a mirror, like a literal black mirror, um, called a beer.
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And when you wake up in the morning, it will use technology to read your mood and what you're kind of thinking almost, and then, you know, give you soothing music to make you feel better.
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Cause the mirror can tell that you're having a bad, uh, depression or a bad day.
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And then, you know, again, they're harvesting all of this data and what they're going to use it for and assuming that it's going to be tied in to digital health records and then into CBDCs to me is not a big leap.
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I think that that's, it's really right around the corner.
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I tell you the, the digital IDs are, are truly between that and CBDC.
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Um, I was just looking at the, um, the latest return.
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You can just search for it, just Google return blaze and you'll see it to the ultimate guide, uh, to escaping the surveillance state.
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It's very difficult, but there are, there are some steps, you know, within that piece.
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And other places online, there's things that you can start doing now to protect your digital identity, your privacy, and your sovereignty.
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Um, uh, X seeks to disclose FBI surveillance requests to users.
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Tech leaders building a city in California, not at all worried about, uh, public backlash or accusations of foreign ties.
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And your diary from CES day one, AI, everything.
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Um, are you generally optimistic as a human being, uh, seeing all of this stuff or not?
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In, I mean, I would say in, in general, I'm somebody who got into tech journalism because I actually generally love technology.
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And I think that there's some really cool and amazing things that we can create with this.
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I mean, I, I saw this company there were actually several companies are creating kind of like haptic feedback, uh, canes for blind children that will give them a signal.
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If there's someone in front of them, just by kind of buzzing, um, on their hand.
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And it's, they were saying it's like really revolutionizing and helping, you know, blind children.
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So the, you know, obviously there's a ton of technology that's beautiful and incredible and makes our lives better each day.
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But there are, there are really some trends that are very concerning about just technocratic monopolistic giant company control, government control over your life.
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And they're going to be wielding a lot of power with this information and this digital control.
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And I mean, you've talked about this in your books and on your show over the years.
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And it's, we really have to be on guard about what's coming and, you know, try to resist it as much as we can.
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I mean, we are at, I think we've already taken our first step over the threshold into a lot of this tech that quickly can, uh,
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enslave us in ways that you can't even imagine today.
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Oh, I was just, you know, I think the, you know, James Polo's founded Return.
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And, you know, our, our goal is to, to try and hold on to our humanity in the digital age.
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So, Peter, uh, Giedel, he is Blaze Media Managing Editor for Return, uh, the tech magazine put out by Blaze.
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You can get it if you're a Blaze TV Plus subscriber.
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If you Google it, you're, you're going to be able to find, uh, at least the, one of the later episodes, the latest episode, I think, today, or the latest edition of it.