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00:01:37.700 You're listening to The Best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:01:52.660 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:01:54.620 Took my grandson to the Indy 500, and it's unbelievable.

00:01:59.980 And Indianapolis is the greatest city, and possibly in America.

00:02:03.600 And I spend a lot of my free time attending sporting events.

00:02:06.440 That's one I've never done.

00:02:07.700 It's great.

00:02:09.020 I love it.

00:02:09.840 I love it.

00:02:10.240 I haven't been there in 30-some years.

00:02:13.520 But I was a little spooked, because the last time I went,

00:02:17.980 it was the year where there was a crash,

00:02:19.800 and the tire clipped the head of somebody.

00:02:22.300 Oh, my gosh.

00:02:23.000 Yeah, I remember that.

00:02:24.020 And this year, right at the end of the race,

00:02:26.300 tire came off the car and went over the audience.

00:02:28.980 And I'm like, it's me, isn't it?

00:02:31.320 I cannot come to Indianapolis ever again.

00:02:34.120 But nobody was hurt, thank God, this time.

00:02:36.620 Anyway, let's continue our conversation about some of the things that are going on

00:02:42.900 that are just so great with Target.

00:02:46.220 Target, we told you now that they are all in.

00:02:52.500 All in.

00:02:53.100 And they're spending all kinds of money to make sure that your kids get the message

00:02:58.940 that you don't have to tell mom or dad that you're transgender.

00:03:02.520 And I want to thank Target for that.

00:03:04.780 No, I didn't know I was funding that when I would shop at Target.

00:03:09.200 But now I'm glad I know.

00:03:11.420 So I can support them.

00:03:13.620 Now, do you remember the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence?

00:03:17.980 I do.

00:03:21.000 Okay, all right.

00:03:21.740 Thank you, Stu.

00:03:22.300 I was waiting.

00:03:23.080 I thought it was sort of a hypothetical.

00:03:25.720 No, no.

00:03:26.160 I just really needed to know if you remember.

00:03:28.200 I do remember.

00:03:28.980 They're the Catholic, anti-Catholic group.

00:03:31.300 Yeah.

00:03:31.800 That does really nice dancing on the cross. 0.66

00:03:35.580 They use it as a stripper pole. 0.99

00:03:37.520 Yeah, that's great.

00:03:38.460 And a bunch of men dressed as women go up there.

00:03:41.180 And Jesus is on the cross.

00:03:43.440 Oh, yeah.

00:03:44.000 That's right.

00:03:44.520 And it's wonderful.

00:03:45.740 And you'll never guess who was originally one of the nuns.

00:03:50.480 I do have a guess on this one.

00:03:52.740 And I love the story.

00:03:54.480 You know, it's a person who we all know and love.

00:03:57.460 We love them.

00:03:58.580 A person who is very well dressed because they shop for the airport.

00:04:04.040 A discount, deep discount prices.

00:04:06.400 Zero dollars.

00:04:07.620 Only costs you prison time.

00:04:10.800 That's it.

00:04:11.440 And I guess that one actually may be coming soon.

00:04:14.180 Maybe.

00:04:14.520 My friend, Sam Brinton.

00:04:16.200 Yeah.

00:04:16.720 Yeah.

00:04:17.280 The mad nuclear man woman that likes to shop at the airport. 1.00

00:04:22.860 That we were told finally that they were able to break the whatever ceiling there is against

00:04:28.500 people who dress in women's clothes and are nuclear scientists.

00:04:32.700 Yeah.

00:04:33.180 Whatever window that is, ceiling that is.

00:04:36.180 Yeah.

00:04:36.480 He broke it.

00:04:36.940 They've broken it.

00:04:37.360 Yeah.

00:04:37.700 So he's now in prison anyway.

00:04:39.480 Or, you know, maybe if we had, you know, any kind of justice in this country.

00:04:44.780 Anyway, back to the nuns.

00:04:47.060 Do you remember they the nuns went and they were going to go for the Dodgers?

00:04:53.300 Right.

00:04:53.740 They were invited for the Dodgers for a big transgender night. 0.85

00:04:58.020 And not even just like a pride night.

00:04:59.940 Okay.

00:05:00.160 This group comes in.

00:05:01.120 They're offensive.

00:05:01.800 It was a hero of the community award.

00:05:05.640 Right.

00:05:06.920 Right.

00:05:07.460 For all of the things that they have done.

00:05:09.460 Um, okay.

00:05:12.500 So anyway, people were like, um, I don't think so.

00:05:17.640 And so the Dodgers were like, Hey, our fans are kind of pissed.

00:05:21.540 Right.

00:05:22.960 So they cancel.

00:05:24.380 But then thank you ESG.

00:05:28.000 Thank you Biden administration.

00:05:29.840 Thank you public private partnerships for getting the average person out of the driver's seat.

00:05:35.680 And so we now know that the California teachers union, um, called the Dodgers up and went, uh, I don't think so.

00:05:49.160 They were part of the pressure campaign.

00:05:51.840 And apparently the ones, because, you know, students lives are at stake.

00:05:56.260 LG.

00:05:56.800 And if you don't have the nuns.

00:05:58.500 If you don't have the fake nuns doing stripteases on the cross with Jesus. 1.00

00:06:03.240 Right. 0.63

00:06:03.660 The kids will die. 0.51

00:06:04.080 The kids will die. 0.88

00:06:07.180 Wow.

00:06:07.480 These are very vulnerable lives.

00:06:09.700 Very vulnerable lives.

00:06:11.180 Okay.

00:06:11.420 So they caved and they agreed with the California teachers, uh, uh, union, uh, because, you know,

00:06:19.660 and I think this, this might be a little unfair of the teachers union to say to them, but they said

00:06:27.700 in their letter to the Dodgers, our students are watching what happens on and off the field.

00:06:38.160 Now call me old school, but that sounds like a threat.

00:06:41.560 Call me old school.

00:06:42.720 I don't think, uh, uh, a teacher's union should be using our children as a threat, but maybe

00:06:55.540 that's just me.

00:06:57.520 It's a great, we were just talking about this a little bit off the air, uh, in a situation,

00:07:03.140 a hypothetical situation where you're out somewhere and, and the children come up to

00:07:07.640 you and they give you the very sad eyes and they say, please may I have some, will you please

00:07:12.740 buy my candy to support my little league tea or whatever?

00:07:16.400 And of course, you know, you know, most of the time it's not real, but it's a kid's asking you

00:07:23.280 for something.

00:07:23.820 And so you kind of feel obligated.

00:07:27.000 I would rather, if it's a scam, look, I'm not going to give you 10 bucks for the candy,

00:07:32.860 but I'll give you a buck because you're out working at least, you know what I mean?

00:07:36.980 Giving it a whirl.

00:07:37.600 Look, sir, I could tell you about my soccer team, but it doesn't exist.

00:07:41.360 This is actually just a sham.

00:07:43.380 Um, you know what, I respect your honesty and your thievery, but this is a, this is a

00:07:48.700 version of that where I do not respect the honesty or thievery, uh, because they just

00:07:54.320 use, oh, well, your kids are going to kill themselves. 0.99

00:07:57.960 I mean, think of, I, every once in a while, I really do have a sympathy for these parents

00:08:03.540 going through this because, I mean, if you think about it, we talk about this all the

00:08:07.300 time.

00:08:07.460 What's the truth, right?

00:08:08.620 The truth is a boy's a boy, the girl's a girl, right? 0.99

00:08:11.100 But when you're a parent, right, and you're, hold on just a second, for future tapes to

00:08:16.520 be played in the court of law, I completely disagree with that.

00:08:19.920 Okay, there you go.

00:08:20.440 All right, good.

00:08:20.880 Now go ahead.

00:08:21.380 You're out of the, you're out of the gulag for another day.

00:08:24.380 But, you know, we know what the truth is here.

00:08:27.880 The, but if you're one of these parents, right, your, your kid is going through a, a very

00:08:33.980 emotional, you know, trying time.

00:08:37.140 Um, they are incredibly sad.

00:08:39.320 They are questioning everything about themselves.

00:08:41.460 You try to get them help from a medical professional. 0.65

00:08:43.960 And that medical professional tells you, if you don't go along with the crazy progressive

00:08:50.140 treatments we want to throw at you, your, your son, your daughter will kill themselves. 1.00

00:08:55.340 Yes, you might, you might have to deal with a daughter instead of a son, but that's much 0.99

00:09:00.340 better than a dead son, right?

00:09:02.400 Like that is legitimately what they tell these parents and they're terrified by this.

00:09:07.220 I know.

00:09:07.880 And I, I, I, it is extortion.

00:09:11.560 It is.

00:09:12.520 It is.

00:09:13.400 And evil and evil.

00:09:15.580 So, uh, listen, thank you, Bud Light for helping that community do that to us.

00:09:21.900 I appreciate it.

00:09:22.640 Target.

00:09:23.360 Thank you.

00:09:24.680 Thank you for keeping all those secrets from the kids, from the parents, from the kids.

00:09:29.620 It's great.

00:09:30.440 You, it's right.

00:09:32.400 We're going to shop for our school supplies there in Target, get all their school clothes.

00:09:36.440 So then they can go to school.

00:09:38.460 And with your money, Target, you're telling the, the teachers, you go ahead and keep all

00:09:44.480 that really important information away from mom and dad.

00:09:47.660 So thank you for that.

00:09:48.840 By the way, if you would like to, uh, you know, have your voice heard, uh, go to tell

00:09:55.220 target stop.com tell target stop.com there.

00:10:01.680 Uh, this is actually a petition that's going to be delivered to Chip and Joanna Gaines, who

00:10:05.260 I really feel bad for because I love Chip and Joanna, love them, love them, love them.

00:10:09.480 I think they're really good people.

00:10:11.260 Uh, think Magnolia is wonderful.

00:10:14.360 They have changed an entire town.

00:10:17.240 Uh, and I just love them.

00:10:19.580 However, I also know that this has to be driving them nuts and people have to take a stand.

00:10:25.740 And so this position is, um, is just asking them to be a voice within Target to help restore

00:10:34.220 sanity here.

00:10:35.900 Um, also you'll get all the information where you can email target, uh, uh, target executives.

00:10:41.280 He used the word target.

00:10:42.500 Yes.

00:10:42.680 Cause I'm talking about target.

00:10:44.260 He's calling for violence, telling them to stop normalizing transgenderism with our children 1.00

00:10:49.400 and, uh, tweet to Chip and Joanna, tell them that we stand with them, but need their

00:10:54.200 help, uh, with target.

00:10:56.320 It's a chip and Joanna.

00:10:57.800 You can just tweet them, but go to tell target stop.com.

00:11:02.440 I don't know how this would work, but if you were to get an indication that they were working

00:11:06.900 on this behind the scenes, would that be satisfying to you?

00:11:11.540 Yeah.

00:11:12.020 If I heard it from, from Joanna, I don't really trust.

00:11:16.040 Not you, Chip.

00:11:17.100 Don't really.

00:11:17.860 Wait, if Chip told you, you'd be like, I don't believe you, Chip.

00:11:20.560 Let me talk to Joanna.

00:11:22.180 Man, I know who wears the pants in the family. 0.56

00:11:24.900 No, I mean, cause I, I, I am conflicted on that because part of it is speaking out publicly,

00:11:29.260 but they probably do have a lot of internal, uh, influence.

00:11:33.800 Oh my gosh.

00:11:34.400 Yes.

00:11:34.760 There.

00:11:35.200 They have to.

00:11:35.760 I don't even know how.

00:11:36.800 They have to.

00:11:37.600 I was watching, um, the succession finale, which aired this, this weekend.

00:11:42.160 And they have the little, um, the, you know, the lead up is like, Hey, you're here with

00:11:45.740 all these shows that are coming up and you see Chip and Joanna's face.

00:11:48.960 They've got some HBO show coming up.

00:11:51.120 Yeah.

00:11:51.260 Which may cause them to be silent.

00:11:53.080 How they, they have successfully.

00:11:56.120 Yeah.

00:11:56.600 They are.

00:11:57.060 Again, they're not an outward conservative, like not like a conservative activist.

00:12:01.360 As far as I know, they're not activists, but they're religious.

00:12:03.780 Yeah.

00:12:03.900 They are outwardly religious, but not activists.

00:12:06.320 But like the fact that an outwardly religious and maybe somewhat conservative couple is

00:12:11.480 able to be allowed in target at all.

00:12:14.400 And on HBO at all is a real, I think a victory for conservative culture and, and religious

00:12:21.700 values.

00:12:22.600 Yes.

00:12:23.160 It's not really a victory.

00:12:24.660 It's the way things should be.

00:12:26.980 A victory in 2023.

00:12:28.720 Yeah.

00:12:29.080 Okay.

00:12:29.560 Yeah.

00:12:29.920 In some dystopian blade runner sort of way.

00:12:33.020 Like 2018 would be like, of course, obviously.

00:12:35.100 Hey, they didn't kill the home improvement people. 0.88

00:12:38.320 So let's, let's mark that up as a, but it is.

00:12:42.220 So I can, I mean, it's a tough balance for somebody like that.

00:12:44.940 I do think.

00:12:45.460 And I think, you know, you've been thoughtful on this when you've been talking about this

00:12:49.080 because I think you really do.

00:12:50.640 I love them.

00:12:51.320 I love them.

00:12:51.960 I think they're great.

00:12:52.900 Don't know them.

00:12:54.660 Wouldn't mind.

00:12:55.580 You know, you want to stop by.

00:12:57.120 I got some questions about my house, but bring some stuff from your bakery.

00:13:00.720 Right.

00:13:01.140 Which is delicious.

00:13:02.060 Tell target stop.com.

00:13:03.720 Go there now.

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00:13:10.820 Welcome to the Glenn Beck program.

00:13:13.900 Now, I want you to, if you're on the side of the road, pull over.

00:13:18.260 Uh, and I want you to notice the man who, uh, the, uh, the tribune in his own state, a rag 1.00

00:13:27.720 of a newspaper says, he's just out of control.

00:13:30.840 He is a, he's an extremist is coming on the air here in just a minute.

00:13:35.980 And, uh, you're going to see him flaming angry.

00:13:40.560 This is the extremist flaming angry version of Senator Mike Lee.

00:13:48.600 Hello, Mike.

00:13:50.220 Hey, Glenn.

00:13:50.980 I'm just roaming at the mouth here.

00:13:52.360 Just getting ready.

00:13:53.080 You know, I've got to live up to the hype.

00:13:54.700 I know.

00:13:56.040 And usually a flaming angry extremist starts with, Hey, Glenn.

00:14:01.300 Um, anyway, uh, Mike, I know you are really upset and I am as well.

00:14:06.520 I think, um, the GOP, I, I've told you this for a long time, you guys have to hit it out

00:14:13.260 of the park before this next election.

00:14:15.520 Otherwise the Republicans are done.

00:14:17.880 I gave McCarthy the benefit of the doubt.

00:14:20.100 I thought he was playing it.

00:14:21.160 Well, what the hell happened, Mike?

00:14:23.820 What happened?

00:14:24.580 Yeah.

00:14:25.040 You know, look, the Republicans in the house got off to a really good start.

00:14:29.080 And that was very complimentary of Speaker McCarthy when they passed the limit, save, grow

00:14:33.180 act.

00:14:33.500 Because it had a lot of really good reforms in it.

00:14:37.640 Now, I, I don't think any of us, um, uh, had any certainty that it would end up becoming

00:14:44.880 law that way.

00:14:45.760 We knew it would have to go through, uh, set up negotiations and we would end up with something

00:14:51.180 perhaps slightly less than what the limit, save, grow act proposed.

00:14:56.800 Well, not perfect.

00:14:57.900 That, that, that bill was something I was eager, willing, and ready to support.

00:15:03.500 Uh, and, and could have supported even a little less than that.

00:15:06.800 Hold on, Mike.

00:15:07.440 Hold on, hold on.

00:15:08.340 Hold on just a second.

00:15:10.120 Take a breath.

00:15:11.260 Try to reel yourself back in.

00:15:15.580 I just love this for anybody who ever says, Hey, he's an extremist.

00:15:19.020 This is him.

00:15:21.120 Hot.

00:15:21.560 So go ahead.

00:15:24.100 So go ahead, Mike.

00:15:25.060 Sometimes people, sometimes I have to interpret people that when I say, uh, this could have

00:15:28.900 been better for me, that means this is absolutely horrible.

00:15:32.040 And, and a lot of my colleagues would be using words that begin with an F.

00:15:36.480 Right.

00:15:36.940 And, uh, uh, and you use really mad, right.

00:15:40.140 You use the H word as in horrible.

00:15:43.540 Horrible.

00:15:44.140 Yeah.

00:15:44.420 Sometimes even heck that's been known to happen too, but look, this thing, um, the limit

00:15:50.320 save grow act is passed by the house would have saved one point or would have raised the

00:15:56.260 debt ceiling by $1.5 trillion.

00:15:59.280 And it would have saved in year one alone, something in the neighborhood of about a trillion

00:16:04.160 dollars.

00:16:04.520 And if just the first year, depending on which accounting method you use, it was either a

00:16:10.000 little under a little over a trillion saved in the first year alone.

00:16:13.940 And would have saved, uh, about $5 trillion over the 10 year budget window, but the new

00:16:19.520 deal just suspend the debt ceiling, uh, and, and pill January 1st of 2025.

00:16:26.460 And many people are estimating that that means a $4 trillion debt ceiling increase.

00:16:30.860 There are other people, uh, some on the house are now saying that it might actually be closer

00:16:35.180 to 6 trillion.

00:16:35.960 Nobody knows for sure.

00:16:37.200 What the hell?

00:16:37.640 What happened? 0.85

00:16:38.460 What happened?

00:16:39.400 What happened?

00:16:40.060 I mean, no reins act.

00:16:41.320 I would take this exact thing if you gave me the reins act.

00:16:46.540 Yeah, I, I think I could go there as well.

00:16:49.480 The exact same thing, even with as weak as the other protections are, if they're true in

00:16:53.260 the reins act, I can probably go there, but they took out the reins act and substituted it

00:16:59.120 for a regulatory pay as you go measure, uh, which sounds pretty nice at the outset and section

00:17:06.660 263 of the bill until you get to section 265 of the bill that makes clear that the director

00:17:12.340 of OMB in his own unlimited discretion, unreviewable discretion can waive it.

00:17:18.220 So it doesn't, it doesn't really do anything.

00:17:20.920 It claims to have an automatic CR to cut spending by 1% if, uh, if, uh, spending bills aren't

00:17:27.880 agreed to.

00:17:28.480 But when you read the fine print on that, as I've done, it doesn't do that.

00:17:32.960 It gives Congress a three months, uh, waiting period in which to enact an omnibus to get

00:17:39.920 around the 1% cut altogether.

00:17:41.660 So frankly, Glenn, I think there's, there's not a whole lot of give here.

00:17:46.760 If this is a quid pro quo, as any negotiation between Republicans and Democrats should be,

00:17:52.140 there's, there's a whole lot of quid and not much quo.

00:17:54.900 And we got kind of screwed here.

00:17:57.380 So why, how is he defending this?

00:18:00.660 Why are others defending this?

00:18:02.840 I mean, what, what, what happens next, Mike?

00:18:05.520 Is it over?

00:18:06.180 Or have they just reversed the situation to where now the Democrats have the high ground

00:18:12.200 and we again are trying to defend a Hill that is just going to get bloody and we'll just

00:18:18.920 get smeared.

00:18:20.240 Yeah.

00:18:20.760 That's the thing is that we had to shoot a lot of high ground.

00:18:24.140 A public opinion was starting to cut in our favor on this.

00:18:27.940 And had he been able to hold out for just even a few more days, I think the negotiating

00:18:33.360 posture would have improved substantially.

00:18:37.280 And I think the big mistake here was moving forward with this without consulting actual

00:18:43.640 conservatives who actually wanted to cut a lot of actual unnecessary spending and otherwise

00:18:49.480 bring about pro growth policies and instead decided to just rely on the unit parties to

00:18:55.760 do the work for them, which has become an all too easy and common tactic here.

00:19:00.000 And perhaps he believed I, you know, look, I like McCarthy.

00:19:04.060 I really do.

00:19:04.600 And I've appreciated the fact that he is trying to keep me up to date on a lot of this stuff.

00:19:09.900 I think he genuinely believes that this stuff will do more than it will.

00:19:15.020 But I have this nasty habit, Glenn, of insisting on reading the operative language before I'm

00:19:20.740 asked to vote on it.

00:19:21.580 And I've read it and I don't think this does what he thinks it does.

00:19:25.840 Well, I'm glad to hear that.

00:19:31.020 So so is there a is there a battle between the Republicans and can it I mean, I would assume

00:19:37.300 the the Democrats are all going to vote for this.

00:19:40.060 They say they're angry, but they're not.

00:19:42.920 You know, they get unlimited spending.

00:19:45.480 They get they get whatever they want, really.

00:19:47.260 OK, so are they are the Democrats going to be united in this in the end and or is there

00:19:54.640 a chance that the Democrats will split on this and the Republicans will split?

00:19:59.460 And so there's nothing that happens.

00:20:02.440 Yeah, well, well, it's it's dangerous business to speak for any other member of Congress.

00:20:07.440 I will predict right now that you'll end up seeing this uniting Democrats in a way that

00:20:12.700 it will not unite Republicans, correct?

00:20:14.780 I think you may well you're likely to have more Democrats vote for this in both chambers

00:20:20.880 than Republicans.

00:20:23.260 But regardless, this is something that will have the support of a lot of Democrats.

00:20:28.940 It will definitely have the support of more Democrats in the Senate than it has Republicans.

00:20:34.920 And that should tell us something.

00:20:38.700 Look, elections are supposed to have consequences and they should matter here.

00:20:44.380 We're negotiating this almost as if we hadn't just taken control of one House of Congress.

00:20:51.140 We had an almost as if there hadn't been a big debate specifically on this type of legislation,

00:20:56.700 which which there was and which was supposed to lead to a better result.

00:21:01.300 But the other thing, Glenn, is what frustrates me about this is he's acting as if we really

00:21:07.080 are under the gun, as if we have to do we're not or Armageddon is going to ensue.

00:21:12.880 But, you know, we're just we Secretary Yellen has now magically affirmed that the true

00:21:22.200 ex-state and her judgment is now June 5th.

00:21:27.240 It was June 1st, just a few days ago.

00:21:29.940 Then she moved it to June.

00:21:30.900 And that's a lie, Mike.

00:21:32.740 She would and the president would have to say we're not paying and and prioritizing what

00:21:38.880 bills they would choose to default.

00:21:41.960 It wouldn't happen because of any negotiation.

00:21:45.420 They would have to choose to default.

00:21:48.380 Am I right or wrong?

00:21:49.820 You are right.

00:21:50.760 And it's also true that there are a number of financial analysts and policy experts in this

00:21:56.960 area who look at the daily receipts and outlays, budget information put out by the Treasury

00:22:04.660 Department and say that we might well make it all the way to June 15th without actually

00:22:11.600 running short on anything.

00:22:13.300 And that if we did, the influx of cash that we get from the quarterly tax payments come

00:22:18.860 in, coming in on June 15th would be more than enough to take us probably well into, if not

00:22:24.180 to the end of July.

00:22:25.620 Now, he's not saying we should wait till the end of the line to do this.

00:22:28.720 I've been advocating that we start on this since January.

00:22:31.760 But my point is, why now?

00:22:33.660 Why is it all of a sudden now that they say this is imminent?

00:22:36.900 It's immediate.

00:22:37.560 The whole world's going to blow up.

00:22:38.700 That's not true.

00:22:39.720 We're not going to default.

00:22:41.340 Default was never really on the table.

00:22:43.080 It still isn't.

00:22:44.340 So it's better to get this right than to get it done fast under this false pretense that

00:22:49.960 we have to do this immediately.

00:22:51.620 It's just not true.

00:22:52.540 Well, Mike, I thank you for fighting.

00:22:55.980 And I know there's others in the Senate that are fighting against this.

00:22:59.920 But I think you should make it very clear to all those who hate Donald Trump that you

00:23:08.440 may have just handed him the nomination for the Republican Party because the people, you

00:23:17.300 had one shot.

00:23:18.540 You had one shot.

00:23:19.700 And I think you blew your one shot.

00:23:21.380 Not you, but I'm saying the Republicans blew their one shot.

00:23:25.820 And if they don't pull this one way out of the fire, I would accept this exact deal,

00:23:32.460 except with the RAINS Act.

00:23:35.880 That's not good, but it's much better than this.

00:23:39.720 And that only restores government to the way it was supposed to be in the first place.

00:23:43.860 But anyway, I digress.

00:23:45.600 I'm not as calm as you are, Mike.

00:23:47.660 But at the end of the day, Glenn, this makes me very concerned.

00:23:50.500 Look, I'll support whoever gets the nomination.

00:23:53.460 Yeah.

00:23:54.240 I wish Donald Trump were still president today.

00:23:57.340 If he's the nominee, I'm happy to support him.

00:23:59.320 I'm happy to support someone else.

00:24:00.560 I worry about our ability to elect anyone president of the United States as a Republican.

00:24:05.560 Yep.

00:24:05.900 If we do stuff like this.

00:24:07.060 Because when people look at this, they're right to ask.

00:24:10.180 Republicans like these who need Democrats.

00:24:13.920 This is what Democrats do.

00:24:15.420 This is the unit party in action, and it's wrong.

00:24:17.720 You didn't hear me say that you just made him president.

00:24:21.940 I said you made him the nominee.

00:24:24.740 Whether any Republican can win now with a bunch of people like this is beyond me.

00:24:33.660 I don't know who's going to walk through a wall of fire.

00:24:36.480 I don't know who's going to say, no, well, they're doing the right thing.

00:24:40.020 The people at 62% were saying, enough of the spending.

00:24:45.180 Enough.

00:24:45.900 And you just gave them $4 to $6 trillion and no real ceiling?

00:24:53.360 This is good luck.

00:24:55.420 Good luck, Republicans.

00:24:56.940 Good luck.

00:24:59.100 Mike, thank you so much.

00:25:01.180 Thank you very much, Glenn.

00:25:02.140 Thanks for having me up.

00:25:03.180 You bet.

00:25:03.600 Senator Mike Lee.

00:25:04.720 Now, we're going to go to somebody who's known to be a little more reserved.

00:25:08.520 Chip Roy.

00:25:11.380 We'll see if we can get him ramped up a little bit.

00:25:15.620 Tried to hold Mike back as much as possible.

00:25:19.600 I think it's interesting he signaled he'd be open to maybe just doing that Reigns Act version of this instead.

00:25:27.660 In 30 seconds, explain the Reigns Act.

00:25:30.180 Basically, we know how these three-letter agencies come out and just be like, hey, we're changing a rule and it's going to affect our economy by hundreds of millions and billions of dollars.

00:25:43.920 And they just do that stuff.

00:25:45.440 The Reigns Act, one of the main things it does, is basically makes it so Congress would have to pass it.

00:25:50.620 If they're making a law that's big enough to change the economy by, I think it's over $100 million, it has to go through Congress.

00:25:57.080 Well, the latest is on food.

00:26:01.500 John Kerry was introducing this weekend what we have to do at the farm level.

00:26:06.520 And it is, it's going to cause starvation.

00:26:12.160 It will.

00:26:13.520 That you will have people who cannot find food all over the world.

00:26:18.680 And this one will hit us as well.

00:26:22.240 The Reigns Act would stop that.

00:26:24.580 But thank you, Speaker McCarthy, for proving that I was wrong last week and absolutely right about you when you were running.

00:26:36.920 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:26:39.280 Hello, America.

00:26:43.860 Welcome to the Glenn Beck Program.

00:26:45.800 I'm going to get right to Chip Roy because he's on a tight schedule here.

00:26:50.860 So let's go to Chip now.

00:26:52.620 Hello, Chip.

00:26:53.100 How are you?

00:26:54.840 Glenn, I'm doing great.

00:26:55.920 Great to be on.

00:26:57.380 And, yeah, I'm on a tight schedule because we've got to go fight to try to stop this thing.

00:27:01.300 But happy to be on the show.

00:27:02.820 Yeah, so, you know, I really think that Speaker McCarthy has just given the nomination to Donald Trump or any of these, you know, weasels who are like, I don't want Donald Trump.

00:27:18.100 He's an extremist.

00:27:19.640 You just gave him the nomination, in my opinion.

00:27:23.160 Not that Florida, you know, Ron DeSantis is going to agree with this deal.

00:27:28.760 But nobody's going to trust the Republicans after this.

00:27:31.520 We gave you the benefit of the doubt, McCarthy.

00:27:35.280 And this is what you return?

00:27:37.420 It's what, $4 trillion or is it $6 trillion that they can raise the debt ceiling up to in the next couple of years?

00:27:45.520 Well, let's just take it piece by piece.

00:27:47.720 I mean, look, you're right that this is, I think, a terrible quote-unquote deal.

00:27:52.340 And for your listeners out there who are smarter than the average listener, what we get is a date certain for a debt ceiling increase.

00:28:00.820 It's January 1st, 2025.

00:28:03.440 There is no actual dollar amount.

00:28:05.800 So what that means is you essentially have an uncapped increase in the debt ceiling to a date certain.

00:28:11.340 That date certain happens to fall in the middle of a lame duck Congress, by the way, right?

00:28:16.060 Or a lame duck presidency, if we're lucky.

00:28:17.920 What do we get for that probably $4 trillion of additional debt or more, depending on what happens with it being uncapped and able to be potentially extended?

00:28:28.100 We get, at best, in my opinion, if I'm being as generous as I can be to the people that negotiated this, is a two-year freeze in spending, a two-year freeze in spending, roughly.

00:28:41.640 It might go up a little, might be down a little, but it's basically a freeze, truly.

00:28:46.140 And that's only for two years of actual caps.

00:28:48.840 And for that, you know, you're going to see a slight bending of the post-COVID curve.

00:28:55.880 Now, what does that mean?

00:28:56.900 You'll see in the Wall Street Journal, and you see all these people out there saying, hey, they're bending the curve.

00:29:00.540 This is historic.

00:29:01.600 They're flattening it.

00:29:02.820 Yeah. 0.97

00:29:03.240 We heard all that same crap during COVID, by the way. 0.61

00:29:05.380 This is just taking the post-COVID spending and freezing it for a couple of years while we continue to feed the beast, the federal bureaucracy, and we do nothing, nothing to end the IRA, subsidized unreliable energy. 0.77

00:29:21.820 We have minor work requirements.

00:29:23.860 We basically increase the age for SNAP and TANF from 49 to 54 and call that a win while not touching Medicaid.

00:29:30.220 We have no RAINS Act pulling back the regulatory state.

00:29:33.280 We get something called administration pay-go to offset the cost of regulations, but they can waive it, which means it's nothing.

00:29:39.860 We uphold the student loans and punt it to the courts to make the decisions about the $500 billion of picking winners and losers in student loans.

00:29:48.980 The IRS stays expanded, minus basically $1.4 billion.

00:29:54.020 You really can't make this up.

00:29:56.140 And with all due respect to the leadership, they say it's historic.

00:29:59.580 They miscalculated.

00:30:00.680 They slipped into their old ways.

00:30:03.280 I am going to meet with them today.

00:30:05.020 I'm going to keep fighting.

00:30:06.440 I'm trying to make it clear that I'm trying to give them the benefit of the doubt that this wasn't sinister, that they just slipped into their old ways and felt like, well, we've got to do a deal.

00:30:14.840 Yeah, you can't do that.

00:30:16.920 The no votes are mounting.

00:30:18.820 And if you're a listener out there, make sure every one of your members of Congress know, get their voice.

00:30:24.720 Your voices need to be heard.

00:30:26.280 Vote no on this.

00:30:27.180 We can still kill this and start over and do the right thing.

00:30:29.560 I mean, I'd take this if you had the Reigns Act, but you got nothing.

00:30:35.420 You got nothing.

00:30:37.040 You have no reins, if you will, on this horse that is just being whipped to death in spending.

00:30:45.920 Correct.

00:30:46.720 I mean, that is 100% correct.

00:30:48.820 We got out of the deal that we did, limit, save, grow, for a $1.5 trillion debt ceiling increase into early next year.

00:30:56.680 We got a lot of really good things.

00:30:59.000 Now, look, I'm not saying whether I think we could have gotten every single piece of that.

00:31:03.720 I understand we've got to negotiate.

00:31:05.540 I think that was the right starting place.

00:31:08.020 But you tell me you're going to go jack this out two years to almost $4 trillion, and you're going to get literally not one actual full thing on the list of stuff we put in the Limit Save Grow Act.

00:31:20.740 Not one thing.

00:31:22.320 Everything was like some fractional piece of something on the list so they could say they did something.

00:31:28.600 Right?

00:31:29.180 $1.4 billion off of the $80 billion of the IRS.

00:31:32.320 And then say, see, we did something for the IRS.

00:31:34.040 No, you left $78.6 billion of expanded IRS in place over 10 years.

00:31:40.440 And you're trying to sell that to me as a victory.

00:31:42.900 That's just not correct.

00:31:45.260 This is old swamp thinking.

00:31:48.120 This is a course correct. 1.00

00:31:49.560 Let's just cut the crap. 1.00

00:31:53.920 Old swamp thinking. 1.00

00:31:54.940 Nothing is changing with the Republican Party because the leadership, they're all swamp monsters. 1.00

00:32:01.960 They're all swamp monsters. 0.99

00:32:03.080 And until those swamp monsters are put back out to pasture, you're not going to have anything change.

00:32:10.780 You're not.

00:32:11.320 You have a lot of good Republicans like you that have come up and they actually mean what they say and say what they mean.

00:32:18.920 But until those swamp monsters are taken out and let them go to their nursing homes, nothing's going to change.

00:32:30.580 I don't know why we should give them the benefit of the doubt that, oh, you know, we made a mistake.

00:32:36.820 What?

00:32:37.040 You had everything going for you.

00:32:40.140 Everything.

00:32:41.940 Now, now, now what's going to happen?

00:32:44.260 The president made a deal.

00:32:46.100 He compromised.

00:32:47.360 Now the Republicans are.

00:32:48.920 It's just these extremists being holding hostage the Republican Party.

00:32:53.140 It's the same thing over again.

00:32:56.200 Glenn, look, I agree with every word of it.

00:33:00.740 Just make sure I'm being very clear here.

00:33:03.320 I personally think this was a complete and total sellout of everything that we accomplished in January, everything that we did in the first Limit Save and Grow Act and everything we accomplished with HR2.

00:33:13.680 You're right.

00:33:14.060 I think it is a I think it is a betrayal of the power sharing arrangement we put in place that would protect the Republican Party to make sure we could advance the ball forward.

00:33:24.780 We are not blind to the fact that we have to figure out how to get 218 votes.

00:33:28.360 We understand that's hard.

00:33:30.060 We had a process that was working.

00:33:32.220 That process was completely abandoned last week.

00:33:35.720 The deal was cut.

00:33:36.800 And that was a betrayal of the agreement that we had reached in order to create something that we thought would work.

00:33:42.640 That's what I'm getting at.

00:33:43.660 So I'm going to try to fix that today.

00:33:46.480 If I cannot in the rules committee, when I go fight this in the rules committee, if I can't kill it, if we can't kill it on the floor tomorrow, then we're going to have to then regroup and figure out the whole leadership arrangement again.

00:33:59.320 Yeah, I was going to say, you got it.

00:34:02.140 McCarthy, I gave him the benefit of the doubt.

00:34:05.100 I wasn't for him. 0.93

00:34:06.220 I thought he was a swamp monster.

00:34:08.560 And just last week, I'm like, you know what?

00:34:10.780 I think I got to give him credit.

00:34:12.080 He's playing this very well.

00:34:14.200 Now, he's just betrayed me.

00:34:16.980 Again, I give the benefit of the doubt to the Republican and they just shiv me in the chest.

00:34:22.700 So I want to be as clear as I can be.

00:34:28.600 This is not the end of this.

00:34:31.160 This is the process that we started in January.

00:34:34.520 We showed that you can govern conservatively and win.

00:34:38.400 We did it.

00:34:39.440 We were doing it.

00:34:40.580 They abandoned it.

00:34:41.700 It is our job now to course correct.

00:34:43.520 But again, I've got you, you know, you did not to quote Rumsfeld and old Bushian, but you go to war with the army.

00:34:48.680 You got look, the bottom line is we were winning and we were demonstrating how to govern conservatively.

00:34:55.020 So we're going to go do that today.

00:34:57.100 We're going to have a press conference in 45 minutes.

00:34:59.240 The 20 are strong.

00:35:01.300 There are others that are with us.

00:35:03.060 We are going to make our message be loud and clear.

00:35:05.660 I'm going to make my message loud and clear in the rules committee.

00:35:08.960 And then we will keep moving forward, trying to earn votes and try to build up where we need to head to do exactly what you just said.

00:35:15.980 We got to make sure the American people are inspired.

00:35:18.220 What I was trying to tell Republicans here is if we lose and we lose the vote because we get rolled, make it be the Dems and the squishes in our conference that roll us.

00:35:28.880 Yes.

00:35:29.120 Don't go and roll, you know, roll and cut a deal and then go try to sell me that it's not, you know, selling me out because that's what they're doing.

00:35:38.540 They're trying to they're trying to snow me, trying to snow the American people and say, oh, this is a great deal.

00:35:43.700 It is not, you know, that chart that's going around that I've put out on my Twitter account, social media, where I make very clear the side by side comparison of where we were and where we ended up.

00:35:55.980 And it's not even close.

00:35:57.760 No.

00:35:57.860 I know you have to run.

00:36:00.320 So what do you want the American people to do?

00:36:02.400 Anybody who still I mean, honestly, I don't know how many times you guys can say, call your congressman, because I mean, really, we have.

00:36:10.540 Well, let me back up and just say for five months, we actually were winning.

00:36:15.880 HR2 was, in fact, an historic position for Republicans to take on the border.

00:36:20.200 The first Limits Save Grow Act, that was a pretty historic bill.

00:36:24.240 So now they abandoned us.

00:36:26.640 They failed.

00:36:27.140 They cut a bad deal.

00:36:28.620 It hasn't been passed yet.

00:36:30.800 Just get involved over the next 48 hours.

00:36:34.000 Make sure every Republican knows this is a bad deal.

00:36:37.760 Make your voice heard loudly.

00:36:39.740 Do it on social media.

00:36:41.080 Do it to their offices.

00:36:42.180 We're going to fight up here, and then we're going to regroup and figure out what the next step is to hold the line and make sure we're going to get our leadership arrangement such that it's reflecting conservative principles again.

00:36:54.100 I promise we're going to keep fighting.

00:36:55.420 The 20 aren't flinching, Glenn.

00:36:58.280 We're just starting.

00:36:59.760 Good.

00:37:00.060 I'd love to have you and anybody else in that 20 that would like to come in and talk tomorrow about the progress because we have 48 hours.

00:37:08.600 I'd love to have you back tomorrow, Chip, and just give us an update.

00:37:11.080 Okay.

00:37:11.460 Thank you.

00:37:11.880 Happy to do it.

00:37:12.280 Either I'll do it or someone else.

00:37:13.400 Thank you so much.

00:37:14.480 Bye-bye.

00:37:15.860 That is the problem.

00:37:16.980 We do have people in there that are really fighting hard.

00:37:21.040 For the first time, I think we have 20 people that will stand, but it's all these mamby-pamby, wishy-washy, look what the left has done to the country.

00:37:35.760 Why?

00:37:36.920 Because they will sell out every principle they have.

00:37:42.680 They don't care who they stand with, and they're standing with Marxists.

00:37:49.320 Marxists.

00:37:51.560 Well, I think we should give them some more money.

00:37:53.920 I mean, I don't think it's all.

00:37:55.040 I mean, I don't want to be an extremist.

00:37:56.800 You're being an extremist.

00:37:58.080 You're standing for the Constitution.

00:38:02.080 What is wrong with the American people?

00:38:06.260 When did the Constitution, the longest-running Constitution in all of the history of man, the average Constitution, last 17 years?

00:38:21.040 God wrong with the reason.

00:38:21.740 Oh, yeah.

00:38:22.500 I mean, I've left the Constitution.

00:38:23.780 I remember that.

00:38:24.880 I once

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