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Glenn and Stu are back at it again, and this time they have a special guest to talk about the budget and the Indy 500. They also talk about a woman in prison for wearing a woman's clothes, and a man who is serving a life sentence for selling nuclear waste.
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I wasn't feeling it yesterday, and that's why I said no, I will stand up for my rights
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But today, we're back here hardens, slaving over a hot computer for you.
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I've got a few things to say about, you know, the budget.
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You're listening to The Best of the Glenn Beck Program.
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Took my grandson to the Indy 500, and it's unbelievable.
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And Indianapolis is the greatest city, and possibly in America.
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And I spend a lot of my free time attending sporting events.
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But I was a little spooked, because the last time I went,
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tire came off the car and went over the audience.
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Anyway, let's continue our conversation about some of the things that are going on
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And they're spending all kinds of money to make sure that your kids get the message
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that you don't have to tell mom or dad that you're transgender.
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No, I didn't know I was funding that when I would shop at Target.
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Now, do you remember the Sisters of Perpetual Indulgence?
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And a bunch of men dressed as women go up there.
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And you'll never guess who was originally one of the nuns.
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You know, it's a person who we all know and love.
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A person who is very well dressed because they shop for the airport.
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And I guess that one actually may be coming soon.
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The mad nuclear man woman that likes to shop at the airport.
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That we were told finally that they were able to break the whatever ceiling there is against
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people who dress in women's clothes and are nuclear scientists.
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Or, you know, maybe if we had, you know, any kind of justice in this country.
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Do you remember they the nuns went and they were going to go for the Dodgers?
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They were invited for the Dodgers for a big transgender night.
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So anyway, people were like, um, I don't think so.
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And so the Dodgers were like, Hey, our fans are kind of pissed.
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Thank you public private partnerships for getting the average person out of the driver's seat.
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And so we now know that the California teachers union, um, called the Dodgers up and went, uh, I don't think so.
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And apparently the ones, because, you know, students lives are at stake.
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If you don't have the fake nuns doing stripteases on the cross with Jesus.
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So they caved and they agreed with the California teachers, uh, uh, union, uh, because, you know,
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and I think this, this might be a little unfair of the teachers union to say to them, but they said
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in their letter to the Dodgers, our students are watching what happens on and off the field.
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Now call me old school, but that sounds like a threat.
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I don't think, uh, uh, a teacher's union should be using our children as a threat, but maybe
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It's a great, we were just talking about this a little bit off the air, uh, in a situation,
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a hypothetical situation where you're out somewhere and, and the children come up to
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you and they give you the very sad eyes and they say, please may I have some, will you please
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buy my candy to support my little league tea or whatever?
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And of course, you know, you know, most of the time it's not real, but it's a kid's asking you
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I would rather, if it's a scam, look, I'm not going to give you 10 bucks for the candy,
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but I'll give you a buck because you're out working at least, you know what I mean?
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Look, sir, I could tell you about my soccer team, but it doesn't exist.
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Um, you know what, I respect your honesty and your thievery, but this is a, this is a
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version of that where I do not respect the honesty or thievery, uh, because they just
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use, oh, well, your kids are going to kill themselves.
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I mean, think of, I, every once in a while, I really do have a sympathy for these parents
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going through this because, I mean, if you think about it, we talk about this all the
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The truth is a boy's a boy, the girl's a girl, right?
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But when you're a parent, right, and you're, hold on just a second, for future tapes to
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be played in the court of law, I completely disagree with that.
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You're out of the, you're out of the gulag for another day.
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The, but if you're one of these parents, right, your, your kid is going through a, a very
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They are questioning everything about themselves.
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You try to get them help from a medical professional.
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And that medical professional tells you, if you don't go along with the crazy progressive
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treatments we want to throw at you, your, your son, your daughter will kill themselves.
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Yes, you might, you might have to deal with a daughter instead of a son, but that's much
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Like that is legitimately what they tell these parents and they're terrified by this.
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So, uh, listen, thank you, Bud Light for helping that community do that to us.
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Thank you for keeping all those secrets from the kids, from the parents, from the kids.
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We're going to shop for our school supplies there in Target, get all their school clothes.
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And with your money, Target, you're telling the, the teachers, you go ahead and keep all
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that really important information away from mom and dad.
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By the way, if you would like to, uh, you know, have your voice heard, uh, go to tell
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Uh, this is actually a petition that's going to be delivered to Chip and Joanna Gaines, who
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I really feel bad for because I love Chip and Joanna, love them, love them, love them.
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However, I also know that this has to be driving them nuts and people have to take a stand.
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And so this position is, um, is just asking them to be a voice within Target to help restore
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Um, also you'll get all the information where you can email target, uh, uh, target executives.
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He's calling for violence, telling them to stop normalizing transgenderism with our children
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and, uh, tweet to Chip and Joanna, tell them that we stand with them, but need their
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You can just tweet them, but go to tell target stop.com.
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I don't know how this would work, but if you were to get an indication that they were working
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on this behind the scenes, would that be satisfying to you?
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If I heard it from, from Joanna, I don't really trust.
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Wait, if Chip told you, you'd be like, I don't believe you, Chip.
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No, I mean, cause I, I, I am conflicted on that because part of it is speaking out publicly,
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but they probably do have a lot of internal, uh, influence.
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I was watching, um, the succession finale, which aired this, this weekend.
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And they have the little, um, the, you know, the lead up is like, Hey, you're here with
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all these shows that are coming up and you see Chip and Joanna's face.
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Again, they're not an outward conservative, like not like a conservative activist.
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As far as I know, they're not activists, but they're religious.
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They are outwardly religious, but not activists.
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But like the fact that an outwardly religious and maybe somewhat conservative couple is
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And on HBO at all is a real, I think a victory for conservative culture and, and religious
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Hey, they didn't kill the home improvement people.
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So I can, I mean, it's a tough balance for somebody like that.
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And I think, you know, you've been thoughtful on this when you've been talking about this
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I got some questions about my house, but bring some stuff from your bakery.
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Now, I want you to, if you're on the side of the road, pull over.
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Uh, and I want you to notice the man who, uh, the, uh, the tribune in his own state, a rag
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He is a, he's an extremist is coming on the air here in just a minute.
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And, uh, you're going to see him flaming angry.
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This is the extremist flaming angry version of Senator Mike Lee.
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And usually a flaming angry extremist starts with, Hey, Glenn.
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Um, anyway, uh, Mike, I know you are really upset and I am as well.
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I think, um, the GOP, I, I've told you this for a long time, you guys have to hit it out
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You know, look, the Republicans in the house got off to a really good start.
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And that was very complimentary of Speaker McCarthy when they passed the limit, save, grow
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Because it had a lot of really good reforms in it.
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Now, I, I don't think any of us, um, uh, had any certainty that it would end up becoming
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We knew it would have to go through, uh, set up negotiations and we would end up with something
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perhaps slightly less than what the limit, save, grow act proposed.
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That, that, that bill was something I was eager, willing, and ready to support.
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Uh, and, and could have supported even a little less than that.
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I just love this for anybody who ever says, Hey, he's an extremist.
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Sometimes people, sometimes I have to interpret people that when I say, uh, this could have
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been better for me, that means this is absolutely horrible.
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And, and a lot of my colleagues would be using words that begin with an F.
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Sometimes even heck that's been known to happen too, but look, this thing, um, the limit
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save grow act is passed by the house would have saved one point or would have raised the
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And it would have saved in year one alone, something in the neighborhood of about a trillion
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And if just the first year, depending on which accounting method you use, it was either a
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little under a little over a trillion saved in the first year alone.
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And would have saved, uh, about $5 trillion over the 10 year budget window, but the new
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deal just suspend the debt ceiling, uh, and, and pill January 1st of 2025.
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And many people are estimating that that means a $4 trillion debt ceiling increase.
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There are other people, uh, some on the house are now saying that it might actually be closer
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I would take this exact thing if you gave me the reins act.
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The exact same thing, even with as weak as the other protections are, if they're true in
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the reins act, I can probably go there, but they took out the reins act and substituted it
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for a regulatory pay as you go measure, uh, which sounds pretty nice at the outset and section
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263 of the bill until you get to section 265 of the bill that makes clear that the director
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of OMB in his own unlimited discretion, unreviewable discretion can waive it.
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It claims to have an automatic CR to cut spending by 1% if, uh, if, uh, spending bills aren't
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But when you read the fine print on that, as I've done, it doesn't do that.
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It gives Congress a three months, uh, waiting period in which to enact an omnibus to get
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So frankly, Glenn, I think there's, there's not a whole lot of give here.
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If this is a quid pro quo, as any negotiation between Republicans and Democrats should be,
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there's, there's a whole lot of quid and not much quo.
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Or have they just reversed the situation to where now the Democrats have the high ground
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and we again are trying to defend a Hill that is just going to get bloody and we'll just
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That's the thing is that we had to shoot a lot of high ground.
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A public opinion was starting to cut in our favor on this.
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And had he been able to hold out for just even a few more days, I think the negotiating
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And I think the big mistake here was moving forward with this without consulting actual
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conservatives who actually wanted to cut a lot of actual unnecessary spending and otherwise
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bring about pro growth policies and instead decided to just rely on the unit parties to
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do the work for them, which has become an all too easy and common tactic here.
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And perhaps he believed I, you know, look, I like McCarthy.
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And I've appreciated the fact that he is trying to keep me up to date on a lot of this stuff.
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I think he genuinely believes that this stuff will do more than it will.
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But I have this nasty habit, Glenn, of insisting on reading the operative language before I'm
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And I've read it and I don't think this does what he thinks it does.
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So so is there a is there a battle between the Republicans and can it I mean, I would assume
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the the Democrats are all going to vote for this.
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OK, so are they are the Democrats going to be united in this in the end and or is there
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a chance that the Democrats will split on this and the Republicans will split?
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Yeah, well, well, it's it's dangerous business to speak for any other member of Congress.
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I will predict right now that you'll end up seeing this uniting Democrats in a way that
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I think you may well you're likely to have more Democrats vote for this in both chambers
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But regardless, this is something that will have the support of a lot of Democrats.
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It will definitely have the support of more Democrats in the Senate than it has Republicans.
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Look, elections are supposed to have consequences and they should matter here.
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We're negotiating this almost as if we hadn't just taken control of one House of Congress.
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We had an almost as if there hadn't been a big debate specifically on this type of legislation,
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which which there was and which was supposed to lead to a better result.
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But the other thing, Glenn, is what frustrates me about this is he's acting as if we really
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are under the gun, as if we have to do we're not or Armageddon is going to ensue.
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But, you know, we're just we Secretary Yellen has now magically affirmed that the true
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She would and the president would have to say we're not paying and and prioritizing what
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And it's also true that there are a number of financial analysts and policy experts in this
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area who look at the daily receipts and outlays, budget information put out by the Treasury
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Department and say that we might well make it all the way to June 15th without actually
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And that if we did, the influx of cash that we get from the quarterly tax payments come
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in, coming in on June 15th would be more than enough to take us probably well into, if not
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Now, he's not saying we should wait till the end of the line to do this.
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I've been advocating that we start on this since January.
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Why is it all of a sudden now that they say this is imminent?
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So it's better to get this right than to get it done fast under this false pretense that
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And I know there's others in the Senate that are fighting against this.
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But I think you should make it very clear to all those who hate Donald Trump that you
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may have just handed him the nomination for the Republican Party because the people, you
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Not you, but I'm saying the Republicans blew their one shot.
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And if they don't pull this one way out of the fire, I would accept this exact deal,
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That's not good, but it's much better than this.
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And that only restores government to the way it was supposed to be in the first place.
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But at the end of the day, Glenn, this makes me very concerned.
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Look, I'll support whoever gets the nomination.
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I wish Donald Trump were still president today.
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I worry about our ability to elect anyone president of the United States as a Republican.
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Because when people look at this, they're right to ask.
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This is the unit party in action, and it's wrong.
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You didn't hear me say that you just made him president.
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Whether any Republican can win now with a bunch of people like this is beyond me.
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I don't know who's going to walk through a wall of fire.
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I don't know who's going to say, no, well, they're doing the right thing.
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The people at 62% were saying, enough of the spending.
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And you just gave them $4 to $6 trillion and no real ceiling?
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Now, we're going to go to somebody who's known to be a little more reserved.
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We'll see if we can get him ramped up a little bit.
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I think it's interesting he signaled he'd be open to maybe just doing that Reigns Act version of this instead.
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Basically, we know how these three-letter agencies come out and just be like, hey, we're changing a rule and it's going to affect our economy by hundreds of millions and billions of dollars.
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The Reigns Act, one of the main things it does, is basically makes it so Congress would have to pass it.
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If they're making a law that's big enough to change the economy by, I think it's over $100 million, it has to go through Congress.
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John Kerry was introducing this weekend what we have to do at the farm level.
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That you will have people who cannot find food all over the world.
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But thank you, Speaker McCarthy, for proving that I was wrong last week and absolutely right about you when you were running.
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I'm going to get right to Chip Roy because he's on a tight schedule here.
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And, yeah, I'm on a tight schedule because we've got to go fight to try to stop this thing.
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Yeah, so, you know, I really think that Speaker McCarthy has just given the nomination to Donald Trump or any of these, you know, weasels who are like, I don't want Donald Trump.
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You just gave him the nomination, in my opinion.
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Not that Florida, you know, Ron DeSantis is going to agree with this deal.
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But nobody's going to trust the Republicans after this.
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We gave you the benefit of the doubt, McCarthy.
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It's what, $4 trillion or is it $6 trillion that they can raise the debt ceiling up to in the next couple of years?
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I mean, look, you're right that this is, I think, a terrible quote-unquote deal.
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And for your listeners out there who are smarter than the average listener, what we get is a date certain for a debt ceiling increase.
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So what that means is you essentially have an uncapped increase in the debt ceiling to a date certain.
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That date certain happens to fall in the middle of a lame duck Congress, by the way, right?
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What do we get for that probably $4 trillion of additional debt or more, depending on what happens with it being uncapped and able to be potentially extended?
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We get, at best, in my opinion, if I'm being as generous as I can be to the people that negotiated this, is a two-year freeze in spending, a two-year freeze in spending, roughly.
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It might go up a little, might be down a little, but it's basically a freeze, truly.
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And for that, you know, you're going to see a slight bending of the post-COVID curve.
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You'll see in the Wall Street Journal, and you see all these people out there saying, hey, they're bending the curve.
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We heard all that same crap during COVID, by the way.
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This is just taking the post-COVID spending and freezing it for a couple of years while we continue to feed the beast, the federal bureaucracy, and we do nothing, nothing to end the IRA, subsidized unreliable energy.
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We basically increase the age for SNAP and TANF from 49 to 54 and call that a win while not touching Medicaid.
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We have no RAINS Act pulling back the regulatory state.
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We get something called administration pay-go to offset the cost of regulations, but they can waive it, which means it's nothing.
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We uphold the student loans and punt it to the courts to make the decisions about the $500 billion of picking winners and losers in student loans.
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The IRS stays expanded, minus basically $1.4 billion.
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And with all due respect to the leadership, they say it's historic.
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I'm trying to make it clear that I'm trying to give them the benefit of the doubt that this wasn't sinister, that they just slipped into their old ways and felt like, well, we've got to do a deal.
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And if you're a listener out there, make sure every one of your members of Congress know, get their voice.
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We can still kill this and start over and do the right thing.
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I mean, I'd take this if you had the Reigns Act, but you got nothing.
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You have no reins, if you will, on this horse that is just being whipped to death in spending.
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We got out of the deal that we did, limit, save, grow, for a $1.5 trillion debt ceiling increase into early next year.
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Now, look, I'm not saying whether I think we could have gotten every single piece of that.
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But you tell me you're going to go jack this out two years to almost $4 trillion, and you're going to get literally not one actual full thing on the list of stuff we put in the Limit Save Grow Act.
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Everything was like some fractional piece of something on the list so they could say they did something.
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$1.4 billion off of the $80 billion of the IRS.
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And then say, see, we did something for the IRS.
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No, you left $78.6 billion of expanded IRS in place over 10 years.
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And you're trying to sell that to me as a victory.
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Nothing is changing with the Republican Party because the leadership, they're all swamp monsters.
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And until those swamp monsters are put back out to pasture, you're not going to have anything change.
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You have a lot of good Republicans like you that have come up and they actually mean what they say and say what they mean.
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But until those swamp monsters are taken out and let them go to their nursing homes, nothing's going to change.
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I don't know why we should give them the benefit of the doubt that, oh, you know, we made a mistake.
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It's just these extremists being holding hostage the Republican Party.
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I personally think this was a complete and total sellout of everything that we accomplished in January, everything that we did in the first Limit Save and Grow Act and everything we accomplished with HR2.
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I think it is a I think it is a betrayal of the power sharing arrangement we put in place that would protect the Republican Party to make sure we could advance the ball forward.
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We are not blind to the fact that we have to figure out how to get 218 votes.
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That process was completely abandoned last week.
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And that was a betrayal of the agreement that we had reached in order to create something that we thought would work.
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If I cannot in the rules committee, when I go fight this in the rules committee, if I can't kill it, if we can't kill it on the floor tomorrow, then we're going to have to then regroup and figure out the whole leadership arrangement again.
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Again, I give the benefit of the doubt to the Republican and they just shiv me in the chest.
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This is the process that we started in January.
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We showed that you can govern conservatively and win.
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But again, I've got you, you know, you did not to quote Rumsfeld and old Bushian, but you go to war with the army.
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You got look, the bottom line is we were winning and we were demonstrating how to govern conservatively.
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We're going to have a press conference in 45 minutes.
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We are going to make our message be loud and clear.
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I'm going to make my message loud and clear in the rules committee.
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And then we will keep moving forward, trying to earn votes and try to build up where we need to head to do exactly what you just said.
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We got to make sure the American people are inspired.
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What I was trying to tell Republicans here is if we lose and we lose the vote because we get rolled, make it be the Dems and the squishes in our conference that roll us.
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Don't go and roll, you know, roll and cut a deal and then go try to sell me that it's not, you know, selling me out because that's what they're doing.
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They're trying to they're trying to snow me, trying to snow the American people and say, oh, this is a great deal.
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It is not, you know, that chart that's going around that I've put out on my Twitter account, social media, where I make very clear the side by side comparison of where we were and where we ended up.
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Anybody who still I mean, honestly, I don't know how many times you guys can say, call your congressman, because I mean, really, we have.
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Well, let me back up and just say for five months, we actually were winning.
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HR2 was, in fact, an historic position for Republicans to take on the border.
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The first Limits Save Grow Act, that was a pretty historic bill.
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Make sure every Republican knows this is a bad deal.
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We're going to fight up here, and then we're going to regroup and figure out what the next step is to hold the line and make sure we're going to get our leadership arrangement such that it's reflecting conservative principles again.
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I'd love to have you and anybody else in that 20 that would like to come in and talk tomorrow about the progress because we have 48 hours.
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I'd love to have you back tomorrow, Chip, and just give us an update.
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We do have people in there that are really fighting hard.
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For the first time, I think we have 20 people that will stand, but it's all these mamby-pamby, wishy-washy, look what the left has done to the country.
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Because they will sell out every principle they have.
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They don't care who they stand with, and they're standing with Marxists.
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Well, I think we should give them some more money.
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When did the Constitution, the longest-running Constitution in all of the history of man, the average Constitution, last 17 years?