The Glenn Beck Program - September 13, 2023


Best of the Program ｜ Guests： Sen. Mike Lee & Sara Gonzales ｜ 9⧸13⧸23


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Tonight at 9pm on Blaze TV, host Glenn Beck is joined by former White House Chief Strategist Steve Krakauer to discuss the latest in the ongoing saga of the impeachment of President Donald Trump and the ongoing investigation into his administration.

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00:00:00.700 Oh, your favorite part of the show today?
00:00:03.980 Um, all of the parts that I spoke.
00:00:07.460 Yeah, yours, I didn't like your parts.
00:00:09.620 Were your parts, do we have to keep, can we edit out Glenn's parts of the show today?
00:00:13.980 You know the favorite part of, part of the podcast for me?
00:00:17.620 What?
00:00:18.640 This part.
00:00:20.780 See, and then we started, and then people would be like, oh my gosh, he loved the whole podcast.
00:00:25.320 Oh yeah, have you not started the, start the podcast!
00:00:30.000 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:00:43.140 Tonight, at 9 o'clock, I'm going to show you the three biggest lies about Ukraine. 0.99
00:00:49.520 We begin talking about the impeachment.
00:00:52.620 So we'll give you the latest lay of the land on the impeachment and what that's all about,
00:00:57.400 which really is all about Ukraine.
00:01:00.000 When you understand what is happening, I believe, now I cannot prove this at this time,
00:01:08.140 but I believe it is probably there.
00:01:13.220 It is likely, or at least very feasible, that this is what's happening.
00:01:19.360 This is a payoff to Zelensky and all of the other cronies.
00:01:24.360 Keep your mouth shut.
00:01:26.320 We'll support you.
00:01:27.240 Why else would you send all this money over and not a single accountant to the most corrupt country in the world?
00:01:34.840 I'm going to show you the dirty laundry the mainstream media doesn't want to talk about.
00:01:41.480 The corruption that goes straight to the top to their hero, President Zelensky.
00:01:48.520 Don't miss this special tonight at 9 p.m., Blaze TV, and at 9.30 on your YouTube channel.
00:01:55.680 It's YouTube.com slash Glenn Beck.
00:01:58.520 It's debunked the three biggest lies about Ukraine.
00:02:02.080 I have been working on myself lately to become a better man than I have been,
00:02:17.940 and being able to figure out.
00:02:22.440 We have got to come together, and I don't know how to do it with people who, you know,
00:02:29.400 it's easier to come together when you agree on certain principles.
00:02:34.100 And I'm wondering if we agree on certain principles anymore, because we can argue about anything unless one side is trying to destroy you or others
00:02:46.400 and go against everything you stand for.
00:02:48.440 I can't sit down at a negotiating table with Vladimir Putin and say, hey, let's just all get along.
00:02:57.080 I don't know how to do that unless I just say, you know, we'll all get along.
00:03:04.520 You stay on your side.
00:03:05.500 We'll stay on our side.
00:03:06.600 Okay, but I can't do business.
00:03:09.820 I don't know how to negotiate with somebody who wants to burn our cities down to the ground.
00:03:14.380 I don't know how to negotiate with somebody who wants to thwart the Constitution.
00:03:18.180 I don't know how to have that conversation.
00:03:23.800 But we've got to learn.
00:03:26.860 I've been rereading Dale Carnegie's How to Win Friends and Influence People.
00:03:33.940 There's a lot in that book.
00:03:36.500 But as I've been listening to it, it was written in 1955 and then updated.
00:03:40.420 But as I'm listening to that book, I'm like, I don't know if those people exist anymore.
00:03:45.360 You know, where you can be friendly and and be honest and really pay attention to them.
00:03:56.100 And, you know, when you have a problem, you go to them and you you are a good, decent person and you appeal to their higher angels.
00:04:04.900 I don't know.
00:04:08.820 I mean, I meet them all the time.
00:04:13.140 But if you listen to the press, they don't exist.
00:04:16.040 And I don't know if that's true.
00:04:18.540 I don't know what is true.
00:04:21.940 Yesterday was 912.
00:04:23.320 And what was it?
00:04:26.380 13 years ago, we started something called the 912 Project.
00:04:31.460 And it is something that made Rupert Murdoch very, very nervous because he thought I was going to use this to control the world.
00:04:38.920 And I'm like, he's like, what are you doing?
00:04:41.520 I'll organize all these people.
00:04:42.600 I'm like, nothing.
00:04:43.920 I'm actually not organizing it.
00:04:45.680 They're organizing all these things.
00:04:47.440 Well, what are you going to do with all that?
00:04:48.600 I'm just trying to make the place a better place.
00:04:53.880 And here's an idea.
00:04:55.640 But I was going over the nine principles and the 12 values.
00:05:05.360 And they're still rock solid, I think.
00:05:09.480 The principles.
00:05:11.380 Do you believe America is good?
00:05:13.260 Now, I think now I have to separate my government from her people.
00:05:26.460 But I do believe America is good.
00:05:30.580 I believe in God and I believe he's the center of my life.
00:05:34.900 And he's what's given us all of this opportunity.
00:05:40.220 I still believe.
00:05:41.800 Third one.
00:05:42.240 I must always try to be a more honest man than I was yesterday.
00:05:46.440 I'm still working on that one.
00:05:48.800 Four.
00:05:49.060 The family is sacred.
00:05:50.660 My spouse and I are the ultimate authority, not the government.
00:05:54.420 Think of that.
00:05:54.820 That was written 13 years ago.
00:05:57.640 The family is sacred.
00:05:59.140 My spouse and I are the ultimate authority, not the government.
00:06:02.560 Five.
00:06:03.700 Still, we were just talking about this.
00:06:05.900 If you break the law, you must pay the penalty.
00:06:10.380 Justice is blind.
00:06:11.900 And no one is above it.
00:06:14.940 Six.
00:06:15.380 I have a right to life, liberty, and the pursuit of happiness.
00:06:18.740 But there is no guarantee of equal results.
00:06:23.320 Seven.
00:06:24.120 I work hard for what I have.
00:06:25.740 And I'll share it with who I want to.
00:06:28.040 Government cannot force me to be charitable.
00:06:31.500 Eight.
00:06:32.040 It's not un-American for me to disagree with authority or share my personal opinion.
00:06:37.680 Oh, it is now.
00:06:40.820 Nine.
00:06:41.420 The government works for me.
00:06:42.620 I don't answer to them.
00:06:43.620 They answer to me.
00:06:44.580 If we can just believe these things, can we still come together on those things?
00:06:55.780 Can you get your neighbor to agree to those things?
00:06:59.560 Can you bring the Bill of Rights over to your neighbor?
00:07:03.200 And no, not the first time, but just, you know, after you've, you know, become friends
00:07:08.340 or whatever, can you bring the Bill of Rights to them and say, hey, I'm just trying to think,
00:07:12.800 because everything is changing so fast.
00:07:16.600 Can we talk through these?
00:07:18.220 Because I, is there a right to press?
00:07:21.400 Is there something that the government should be able to stop?
00:07:25.680 Just have these conversations openly.
00:07:28.620 Don't teach.
00:07:29.860 Listen.
00:07:33.380 The values.
00:07:35.600 Honesty.
00:07:36.280 We have a real problem with that.
00:07:37.560 Reverence.
00:07:38.080 Is there anything?
00:07:39.720 I mean, I saw, what's his name?
00:07:42.340 Fetterman, come out yesterday from the Capitol in shorts and like a jogging shirt.
00:07:48.300 And I thought, good man, do you have any reverence for anything?
00:07:53.760 Anything?
00:07:57.180 Third, hope.
00:08:00.260 Boy.
00:08:04.420 America's running low on this.
00:08:07.160 And we lose everything if we lose hope.
00:08:10.040 And that's one of the things they're trying to get you to lose.
00:08:15.040 There's no way out.
00:08:16.320 No way out.
00:08:17.260 No way out.
00:08:17.940 There is no hope.
00:08:19.260 There is.
00:08:21.260 The fourth one is thrift, meaning that, you know, we should be thrifty in our government
00:08:28.680 and everything else.
00:08:29.680 But there was something that was missing on this list that I'd like to replace because
00:08:35.420 I think it's much more important, and that is grace.
00:08:40.140 Nobody understands grace anymore.
00:08:41.880 And you'll have the conversation.
00:08:49.020 Christians have always had this conversation.
00:08:50.840 You can't earn grace.
00:08:52.540 You can't do anything to earn the forgiveness you're so freely given, yada, yada.
00:08:57.220 And I agree with that.
00:08:58.340 There's no way to repay that.
00:09:00.000 However, that's the grace given to us.
00:09:07.200 Here's where I'm struggling right now.
00:09:10.700 I so desperately want to give grace to everyone else, especially those who are inflicting pain
00:09:25.180 and all kinds of unconstitutional rules on everybody else.
00:09:30.540 I want to give them grace.
00:09:31.880 That doesn't mean I excuse.
00:09:34.180 It doesn't mean I don't stand up.
00:09:37.460 It just means they don't have to earn that.
00:09:45.800 Can I at least give them the benefit of the doubt?
00:09:48.740 And we try on this program all the time.
00:09:50.860 I think we give people more benefit of the doubt than any other political show on radio
00:09:57.460 or television or newspaper or online.
00:10:04.100 But you can't earn grace.
00:10:07.620 Why do we not accept people for where they are, especially when they begin to turn?
00:10:16.360 Why do we have to say, see, I told you, see, that's not grace. 0.95
00:10:22.560 Grace is given freely to everybody equally and forget about the past.
00:10:27.820 Let's move on from here.
00:10:31.860 Humility is our biggest problem.
00:10:35.060 We're so arrogant.
00:10:36.300 We think this is going to be like this forever.
00:10:38.340 It's never been like this.
00:10:42.060 Charity.
00:10:42.580 You know, I haven't seen a stat that we are the most charitable people in the world.
00:10:47.020 I haven't seen that stat.
00:10:48.220 I don't know why I haven't seen it.
00:10:49.980 Can you look that up?
00:10:50.760 See if anybody has done that stat.
00:10:53.140 It used to come out all the time.
00:10:54.300 Americans are the most charitable in the world.
00:10:56.460 Are we still?
00:10:56.960 I think we are.
00:10:57.840 But are we still?
00:11:00.960 The seventh value is sincerity.
00:11:04.280 You can't have a conversation with anybody unless you're sincere.
00:11:07.420 Unless you're sincerely interested in them.
00:11:11.060 Unless you're sincerely.
00:11:12.320 You can't change anyone's mind.
00:11:16.500 Unless sincerity is there.
00:11:19.180 That I truly want to understand how you got there.
00:11:24.920 I'm really into this right now.
00:11:27.220 Just this one.
00:11:28.540 I really.
00:11:29.400 And maybe we can do this tomorrow.
00:11:31.440 Just clear out everything else.
00:11:33.040 And I just want to talk to people who disagree with me on things.
00:11:37.800 And I truly want to understand how you got there.
00:11:42.560 I don't know.
00:11:43.300 Maybe you changed my mind.
00:11:44.920 I don't think so.
00:11:46.240 But maybe.
00:11:51.440 Moderation.
00:11:52.460 Boy, we are not moderate in anything anymore.
00:11:54.540 Are we?
00:11:55.520 We're not moderate in our lifestyle.
00:11:58.140 I was listening to some music from the 80s.
00:12:05.000 And remember, you know, this is when Al and Tipper Gore came out and said, we've got to put a rating on all of these albums that are coming out.
00:12:13.820 They are so, so sexualized.
00:12:18.940 And this guy is riding with me and he's like, you know, back in the 70s and 80s, you guys had such great music.
00:12:24.940 And I'm like, right, I know.
00:12:27.680 But then we started talking about it.
00:12:29.200 I said, you know, just the lyrics alone.
00:12:32.620 They're not all about, you know, something happening in your butt.
00:12:40.940 All songs today are about that.
00:12:43.140 Pretty much.
00:12:44.200 The only thing that can.
00:12:45.080 It is pretty much something about your butt, what it's doing, what's being done to it.
00:12:51.200 Right.
00:12:51.660 Something.
00:12:52.380 Something.
00:12:52.680 The ninth is hard work.
00:12:56.340 Boy, think of that.
00:12:57.980 Did we not lose that much of our country?
00:13:01.660 Just lost that seemingly overnight.
00:13:07.380 Courage.
00:13:08.320 It's the only one I think on the on the rise.
00:13:12.440 I'm seeing courage on the rise every day.
00:13:16.520 In some places.
00:13:18.040 Overall, though, would you say that?
00:13:20.180 It's the only one that I see growing.
00:13:26.520 Personal responsibility.
00:13:30.480 And along with humility and hope, the one we don't make it if we don't have is gratitude.
00:13:37.220 Almost every single problem that we have right now is because we are so ungrateful.
00:13:46.840 I didn't get it.
00:13:47.960 I wanted it right now.
00:13:49.600 I can't have what they have.
00:13:52.700 You know, my life sucks because.
00:13:54.560 Because.
00:13:56.620 No.
00:13:57.900 It's really not.
00:13:59.340 Open your eyes.
00:14:00.280 See the the miracles.
00:14:03.860 Man made miracles that you experience every day.
00:14:08.680 The phone.
00:14:13.460 The phone.
00:14:14.460 The iPhone.
00:14:16.460 It's changed your life.
00:14:18.360 May have changed it for the worse.
00:14:19.520 May have changed it for the better.
00:14:20.800 If it changed it for the worse, then change that.
00:14:24.160 It gives you the ability to change that.
00:14:27.380 But if we can't be grateful for even our crosses.
00:14:38.660 We're missing out.
00:14:40.620 We're missing out.
00:14:42.680 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:14:45.720 Real true defenders of our Constitution and the rule of law.
00:14:51.000 are becoming more and more bold in what they will say, because they know that it is a rigged game.
00:14:59.380 And I'm guessing I've tried to fix it for a very long time and have no other options other than to just spill the beans.
00:15:07.440 Clearly.
00:15:08.900 Mike Lee is a good friend of mine.
00:15:10.940 He's also the senator from the state of Utah.
00:15:13.920 And he has been speaking out about the corruption in Washington and especially the spending for years.
00:15:24.840 He just did a tweet thread here that is remarkable.
00:15:29.760 Let me just give you a couple of them.
00:15:30.940 The formula has been quite consistent for years.
00:15:33.680 A tiny group of leaders, which I refer to as the law firm of Schumer, McConnell, McCarthy and Jeffries, privately negotiates a draft spending bill.
00:15:42.540 Some would say with more input from lobbyists than most members of Congress.
00:15:48.620 That bill is kept as if it were highly classified secret until days, sometimes hours before a spending deadline.
00:15:56.600 That is the moment the government will run out of money, resulting in a shutdown unless Congress passes another spending bill.
00:16:03.060 It's not unusual for some power, powerful lobbyists to know more about what is in the bill prior to its release than most members of Congress.
00:16:13.340 As soon as it's been released, allowing most members of Congress to see it for the first time, lawmakers in both chambers are told you've got to pass this right now without any changes in order to avoid a shutdown.
00:16:24.320 Lawmakers who want time to read and amend the bill and remove excessive and inappropriate items in the bill or add new items wrongly admitted from it are told that would be nice, but there just isn't any time for that.
00:16:37.320 Lawmakers are told, essentially, you've got two options here.
00:16:40.440 You can vote for the bill or you can vote against it.
00:16:43.320 Yes or no.
00:16:43.880 No amendments.
00:16:44.620 Your choice.
00:16:45.320 But know this.
00:16:45.980 If you oppose this bill, you're going to risk causing a shutdown and you'll be blamed if that happens.
00:16:52.140 Thus, many members quickly acquiesced to these intimidation tactics, uttering as if reciting a mantra, rehearsed phrases like this bill isn't perfect and the process was totally unfair.
00:17:04.840 But I voted for it anyway because I care about the troops and I hate shutdowns.
00:17:10.440 What a hero.
00:17:11.800 Never mind that the bill spends too much money.
00:17:13.800 Never mind it funds countless things like voting yes, that countless things those voting yes publicly oppose.
00:17:21.600 Never mind that for all, never mind that for all, most of Congress knows the bill might fund giant monuments to Benedict Arnold, King George III, and Milli Vanilli.
00:17:38.440 They're in.
00:17:40.620 Nobody wants a shutdown.
00:17:42.040 Literally no one.
00:17:44.460 And it's bad for the country and Mike Lee is here to tell us what to do about it.
00:17:48.420 Hello, Mike.
00:17:49.780 It's good to be with you.
00:17:51.140 And that was the most extensive quote tweeting at base Mike Lee has ever received.
00:17:56.400 Thank you for that.
00:17:57.400 You're welcome.
00:17:57.940 You're welcome.
00:17:58.780 Well, you are.
00:18:00.040 I mean, you're you're not one to name names.
00:18:05.300 Usually you you you're much more.
00:18:09.580 I don't know.
00:18:10.380 Kind than naming names and pointing fingers.
00:18:13.760 And you like to try to get along with everybody as much as you can while still standing for principles.
00:18:19.000 This you are you are exposing the whole game and naming names here.
00:18:24.120 Why?
00:18:24.640 I'm doing it because it's destroying our country and I've done everything I can internally.
00:18:31.280 Normally, the way I like to solve problems in any organization, including the United States Senate, is to work internally to persuade people.
00:18:39.180 I've done this for years and the process has continued the same.
00:18:43.040 And so it's important to make sure that people understand this and to make sure that the American people demand something better, something different from those.
00:18:55.420 They elect to make their laws and to spend their tax dollars.
00:18:59.560 This is unacceptable.
00:19:01.160 And it is.
00:19:02.060 Make no mistake.
00:19:02.740 This is what has landed us to the point where we're thirty three trillion dollars in debt.
00:19:07.380 This doesn't happen by accident.
00:19:08.900 It happens through this magic formula, which needs to end.
00:19:12.220 But here's the thing, Glenn.
00:19:13.560 All right.
00:19:13.780 What I point out in this thread is that this will continue because it works for those who engage in it.
00:19:20.080 It especially works for the the law firm, as I call it.
00:19:25.420 And the apparatus of appropriators surrounding the law firm.
00:19:30.140 It works for them.
00:19:31.180 They grow more powerful every time they do this.
00:19:34.940 But that power is accrued at the expense of the American people, especially the hardworking, poor, middle class Americans everywhere whose tax dollars are spent recklessly and whose own dollars spend have less buying power every single year because of that excessive spending.
00:19:55.420 It will continue until people no longer vote for crap like this.
00:20:00.060 And so that's that's why it's so important to talk about it, because people need to reach out to their senators and their congressmen and say, do not ever, ever vote for a spending bill that you haven't read, haven't had the opportunity to understand, have the opportunity to debate under the light of day and amend to improve the bill.
00:20:16.720 You know, it's it's really funny because that's what Barack Obama ran under.
00:20:21.220 He said, you're going to be able to read the bill.
00:20:22.980 You're going to be able to know what's in it.
00:20:24.600 Transparency, transparency, transparency.
00:20:26.300 And he's the guy who started this kind of spending and rushing these these bills through without any debate, without any amendments and just one lump sum.
00:20:40.260 Didn't the House?
00:20:42.060 I thought the House was supposed to pass like 12 different budgets or 12 different budgets for, you know, defense and one for Homeland Security, et cetera, et cetera.
00:20:52.600 Did they do any of that?
00:20:53.820 Yeah, so they were supposed to do that.
00:20:57.100 They promised to do that.
00:20:58.280 They should have done that.
00:20:59.260 And so far, they have passed only one.
00:21:01.780 The one that they've passed is called the MilCon VA bill.
00:21:05.460 It deals with veterans issues and military construction.
00:21:10.340 So what I'm advocating for is that since the House has passed that, that's the one that we should take up in the Senate.
00:21:16.480 We should take that up and debate it and discuss it over here.
00:21:19.440 And if the House passes more, we take those up and debate, discuss and pass whatever we can pass out of those.
00:21:27.560 We should do that as the House passes this.
00:21:29.840 If they need more time, we can perhaps give them some extensions of a few days or a few weeks at a time while they complete their work.
00:21:37.580 But we should never, ever return to this practice that I've seen played out over the last decade or so.
00:21:43.480 This is unacceptable.
00:21:45.140 So this is why we have the huge deficit.
00:21:48.200 This is why spending is out of control.
00:21:50.500 This is why the government has money to do all kinds of really bad things because nobody is it's just all lump sum stuff.
00:21:59.980 And it keeps growing every time we pass a bill every year, the same thing.
00:22:06.920 So what can be done here, Mike?
00:22:11.440 First of all, is there something that the House and the Senate can do to make sure that I don't care if you close down the government, you know, just make sure that people get the money, you know, the Social Security and our pay is going to our soldiers, etc., etc.
00:22:30.500 But the rest of government, I don't really give a flying crap if you close it or not.
00:22:35.740 I prefer you do.
00:22:37.300 Is there anything that we can do for essential spending, pay our bills?
00:22:42.320 Yes, there are things that we can do on that front.
00:22:45.820 And there's there are a number of legislative proposals that I've advocated for for years to deal with this kind of situation.
00:22:51.980 One that I really like is a bill called the Ending Government Shutdowns Act.
00:22:55.360 My friend and colleague Ron Johnson, the senator from Wisconsin, has been pushing this for a long time, and I stand with him in that it would do essentially, as you described, explaining that if we reach the end of a spending period and there isn't a new spending bill passed, that the bare essentials that you described would continue to be funded.
00:23:16.240 But that you'd start to see some cuts, a gradual ratcheting down of government spending over time, such that the default is not a full shutdown, but the default is you have gradual cuts that are imposed unless or until Congress can come up with other spending.
00:23:36.100 You see, it's these scare tactics.
00:23:38.500 It's the combination of the spending cliff, the expiration of the spending deadline, coupled with the fear of being blamed for a shutdown that causes people to be willing to vote for things they would never otherwise vote for.
00:23:51.520 And so we should pass reforms like that.
00:23:53.780 That would help a lot.
00:23:55.720 But look, I mean, just look at what has happened over the last decade.
00:23:59.880 We have increased our national debt substantially over the last by by 12 trillion dollars just over the last few years.
00:24:13.200 And this is crippling the American people.
00:24:15.860 The economic numbers out today reflect that the inflation numbers that come out on a regular basis show what happens when we have no no break on the spending, when we have no limit to what we spend because we just print more money.
00:24:28.580 Milton Friedman used to describe this as the true rate of taxation, because that's the true cost of government.
00:24:34.300 When you spend too much, it's just a backdoor invisible tax.
00:24:38.960 Mike, maybe I'm too cynical here, but I worry that McCarthy started this impeachment inquiry as a as a as a, I don't know, carrot and a stick for those who are standing, you know,
00:24:58.400 for the budget, because what he's going to say is, well, we're going to have shut down government, which will mean we're going to shut down this inquiry.
00:25:06.220 Am I being too pessimistic?
00:25:08.880 Yeah, cynical.
00:25:10.120 I do worry about that, too.
00:25:12.140 The reason I worry about that is that starting about two weeks ago, I started seeing members of Republican members of Congress going on TV,
00:25:20.960 saying things that sounded kind of like that, saying if we if we have a shutdown, it could shut down investigations into the Bidens and so on and so forth.
00:25:31.540 Now, look, again, be clear.
00:25:33.240 No one literally no one wants to shut down.
00:25:35.220 We should do everything we can to avoid a shutdown.
00:25:38.820 That is not the objective.
00:25:40.020 And it's something that we try to avoid.
00:25:41.740 But to use that as a scare tactic to say that we absolutely positively must pass any spending bill that the Democrats demand,
00:25:50.700 that's like walking into a car dealership and saying, I'm going to buy this car.
00:25:54.920 Darn it.
00:25:55.580 I don't care how much you charge me.
00:25:57.420 I will not leave without buying this car.
00:26:00.480 That's how you get taken to the cleaners. 0.99
00:26:02.340 That's how you end up walking away with like a hundred and fifty thousand dollar Toyota Tercel is when you do stuff like that.
00:26:10.480 And that's the way we do it here, especially as Republicans.
00:26:13.240 So we have no business saying that.
00:26:15.400 And we can walk and chew gum at the same time.
00:26:17.920 There's nothing that would stop Congress from continuing its inquiry into the Bidens.
00:26:24.680 Right.
00:26:25.280 If if the government tragically were to shut down.
00:26:29.140 And so, look, if we can get to a good deal, we should pass that deal and avoid a shutdown.
00:26:35.200 But there is absolutely no reason to use that as some kind of an excuse to not do our homework here because it simply isn't true.
00:26:45.800 OK, so, Mike, you said tell your elected lawmakers in Washington to oppose any spending bill that they have in the opportunity to read, comprehend, debate and amend.
00:26:55.360 Do you guys even listen to the phone calls that come in anymore?
00:26:58.180 Does that do anything?
00:26:59.900 Well, I do.
00:27:00.620 I don't I don't know.
00:27:01.380 I don't know who else does what.
00:27:02.940 But I regularly check in with my staff to find out what people are saying.
00:27:07.780 And I know I'm not alone in that in the House, not of the Senate, not among Republicans or Democrats.
00:27:13.600 If we call and say, do not pass a continuation bill, do not pass any of these bills unless you've read it and you've discussed it and you've not done this in a hurried way.
00:27:27.260 We don't want any of this.
00:27:30.260 We want you guys to do what you're supposed to do and actually write a spending bill or several of them and pass that.
00:27:39.420 And we don't care.
00:27:41.140 We're we're we'll stand behind you if if the as you call them, the law firm shuts down the government.
00:27:49.680 We will stand with you.
00:27:52.260 Right.
00:27:52.860 Exactly.
00:27:53.100 And that's and that's a great way of putting it.
00:27:54.860 I would add to that, at least in the Senate, look, each house is a little bit different.
00:27:58.380 But in the Senate, there's no excuse ever for people voting for a bill.
00:28:03.440 Not only if they haven't read and had the opportunity to debate in public, but also each member needs to have had an opportunity to offer amendments and to vote on amendments to improve the bill.
00:28:14.300 And there's no reason why they can't do that in the House, too, because that's the thing.
00:28:18.540 And part of what's so pernicious about this going on is they write this thing in secret with the help of lobbyists, to be sure.
00:28:25.260 But in secret, it's guarded as a state secret within Congress.
00:28:29.520 And then they roll it out as they in this hermetically sealed case and say, you can't touch it.
00:28:35.860 You can't penetrate.
00:28:36.700 You can't change anything about it.
00:28:38.020 You can't amend it or improve it.
00:28:39.680 You can't cut anything or add anything.
00:28:41.700 It's done.
00:28:43.120 That's wrong.
00:28:44.560 And if they do that to us, we should vote no.
00:28:47.000 Now, keep in mind, this is not too much to ask, nor is this even asking for a specific budget amount.
00:28:51.840 Hopefully, we will get to the point where we won't spend more than we have.
00:28:55.100 But this is the best first step toward getting to that point.
00:28:58.500 We will never get to the point where we stop spending too much unless or until members vote no without the adequate opportunity to read, understand, debate and amend each bill.
00:29:08.400 Mike, thank you.
00:29:09.680 Appreciate it.
00:29:10.200 Thank you.
00:29:10.500 Senator Mike Lee on the budget.
00:29:13.680 And this is going to be the battle for the next few weeks.
00:29:17.060 And, of course, you're an extremist if you think that we should actually.
00:29:20.780 You know, what they're doing is the same thing.
00:29:22.480 There's got a group of five people who are the elites, and they're telling everybody else what they have to do.
00:29:28.600 Take it or leave it.
00:29:30.140 You're an extremist if you don't.
00:29:32.440 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program.
00:29:34.840 I never thought in America I would have to do shows, and I have a feeling I have to do many, many, many, many shows on the rule of law.
00:29:44.740 I thought we all got it, but apparently not, because now people are being indicted.
00:29:50.780 People are being prosecuted.
00:29:52.400 People are going to jail for things that they shouldn't be necessarily going to jail while others are doing far worse, and they're just walking away.
00:29:59.700 I want all the bad guys who break the law to go to jail equally, equal and blind justice.
00:30:07.960 I will tell you right now, I am not a fan of impeachment.
00:30:12.300 I am a fan of this impeachment with Joe Biden.
00:30:15.320 I was not a fan of Donald Trump's impeachment.
00:30:18.280 Why?
00:30:18.900 Because they didn't have anything.
00:30:21.160 Remember, they kept saying, well, you wait until you hear.
00:30:23.800 Wait until you see the proof.
00:30:24.860 Okay, now let me be consistent.
00:30:28.140 I am also against the impeachment that the Republicans are doing in Texas.
00:30:33.720 They're taking on Ken Paxton, and if Ken Paxton did something illegal, then take him out.
00:30:39.620 But this is not it.
00:30:42.880 They're impeaching him with no evidence, and this, I believe, coming from the Bush people, but I could be wrong.
00:30:50.640 Somebody who's really been following this closely is Sarah Gonzalez, and she is the host of News and Why It Matters here on Blaze TV every day.
00:30:59.780 Hello.
00:31:00.320 How are you?
00:31:01.180 Good to see you.
00:31:01.600 Hi, I'm good.
00:31:02.320 So I was shocked when I started seeing the actual trial in the Senate.
00:31:10.480 Shocked at the fact that this seems like a Stalin show trial.
00:31:15.280 Yeah, and it was done very quickly, rushed through in a holiday weekend.
00:31:20.420 And in fact, I want to borrow a term that I heard used in this trial, which is there are no coincidences in Austin.
00:31:27.780 And there are a lot of things that make you go, hmm, during this whole entire process.
00:31:33.480 For starters, there was no Republican in the Texas House who called for Ken Paxton to be impeached until right after Ken Paxton called on Dade Phelan, Speaker of the House Dade Phelan, to resign after the video.
00:31:47.720 You recall the video that surfaced of him allegedly seemingly being severely intoxicated on the House floor.
00:31:54.620 That's what that was.
00:31:56.200 No Republican called for Ken Paxton's impeachment until Ken Paxton called out Dade Phelan.
00:32:03.200 Now, remember, this is the same Speaker of the House Republican.
00:32:07.000 I use the air quotes Republican Speaker of the House who assigns Democrats to committee heads, committee chairs of very powerful committees, yet refuses to act on school choice, refuses to act on banning Chinese ownership of Texas land, refusal to act on border security.
00:32:23.380 So that doesn't really sound like a conservative fighter to me.
00:32:26.300 No, does not at all.
00:32:28.020 So let me give you some more very curious timing.
00:32:31.500 Let's go back to where we were at the time that these accusations allegedly occurred.
00:32:35.440 So they're in 2020.
00:32:36.860 Right.
00:32:37.160 And the so-called whistleblowers are still employed at the OAG, but they had retained an attorney by the name of Johnny Sutton.
00:32:44.460 You may recall Johnny Sutton.
00:32:46.160 He has a very long and sordid history of, I would say, being very corrupt, siding with illegal aliens versus Border Patrol agents.
00:32:54.480 But he did work in multiple Bush administrations, very, very closely connected to the Bush family.
00:33:01.540 Now.
00:33:01.700 OK, well, that's no big deal.
00:33:03.040 No, of course not.
00:33:03.960 So, again, we're back in 2020.
00:33:05.920 And these OAG whistleblowers are forwarding information to their attorney, Johnny Sutton.
00:33:13.780 And curiously, the same day that they go to the FBI with these accusations, George P. Bush, who had let his law license expire for 10 years, renewed his law license.
00:33:26.400 And now, of course, we know the rest of the story, which is months later, he went on to announce that he would be running for attorney general of the state of Texas.
00:33:35.000 Now, I find this outrageous that you would infer that maybe because, I mean, they paid Sutton, right?
00:33:43.940 I mean, he's working for.
00:33:46.040 Oh, well, it's funny that you that you mentioned that, because there is a clip that I would like to play for you of an exchange between the defense and just one of the whistleblowers explaining some of that payment plan or lack thereof.
00:34:01.260 OK, from your office email, you forwarded grand jury subpoenas that were supposed to be secret to your counsel, Johnny Sutton, correct?
00:34:09.960 That's partially correct.
00:34:11.160 Yes.
00:34:11.940 And to be clear, you've never paid Johnny Sutton a dime, have you?
00:34:16.040 Not yet.
00:34:17.340 You have some type of pro bono deal with him?
00:34:19.400 No.
00:34:20.340 Who's paying for him?
00:34:22.760 We haven't agreed on a fee arrangement yet.
00:34:25.720 We've agreed to discuss that in the future.
00:34:27.960 Wait.
00:34:31.100 Let's let that sink in for a second.
00:34:33.420 This man who's a former assistant U.S. attorney, he's with the Ashcroft law firm, I believe.
00:34:39.160 It's in multiple states.
00:34:41.280 He's represented you for three years and you haven't agreed on a fee arrangement yet?
00:34:45.120 I want to make sure I understand.
00:34:46.720 That's right.
00:34:47.520 Haven't paid him anything?
00:34:48.740 Haven't paid him anything.
00:34:49.560 He's never sent you a bill?
00:34:50.900 No, sir.
00:34:51.440 Sounds like a great guy.
00:34:53.520 Can I tell you, even, I mean, I am what would be classified as an elite.
00:34:59.960 I had to hire an attorney, a very expensive attorney recently, and it was something I had to do.
00:35:09.420 But you know what my second question or my first question after, hey, would you represent this case?
00:35:16.040 You know what my first question was after that one?
00:35:18.240 How much do you charge?
00:35:22.840 You don't, three years?
00:35:25.440 That's insanity.
00:35:26.780 Well, and what attorney do you know who would be happy to just do all of this hard work on a case for three whole years without some form of payment being promised or even discussed?
00:35:36.560 What attorney do you know, let alone one of the top, you know, most expensive attorneys in the state of Texas?
00:35:42.140 So how is this going to end?
00:35:44.720 Well, Glenn, I don't have, obviously, my faith in the House, in the Texas House is lost, but I do have faith in the Senate.
00:35:52.280 We only need 10 to do the right thing.
00:35:55.340 And seven have already said.
00:35:57.340 Yeah, there were six, I believe, who voted in favor of dismissing certain charges, and there was eight at one point.
00:36:08.200 So I don't think it's too much to expect that once the senators actually saw the case, they'd see no evidence.
00:36:16.540 No, like literally.
00:36:18.320 Right.
00:36:18.480 Like, you know, that's what they're saying about the case with Joe Biden.
00:36:21.540 Well, they don't have any evidence.
00:36:22.640 I mean, literally no evidence.
00:36:26.640 None.
00:36:27.240 And I mean, do they even suggest what the crime was?
00:36:32.500 No, no.
00:36:33.640 I mean, it's a bunch of accusations that basically at the end of the day, the evidence that they show is this.
00:36:39.860 Ken Paxton was the boss of this office, asked his subordinates to investigate certain things that he found to be wrong that the FBI was doing.
00:36:49.520 Right.
00:36:49.820 Those subordinates didn't do it. 0.98
00:36:51.280 Right.
00:36:51.460 And they are they are saying, as if it's so bizarre, I can't believe that he believed that the FBI might be doing something wrong, that they somehow or another, he believes that they're not trustworthy.
00:37:07.460 Right.
00:37:08.040 Damn right.
00:37:09.120 Yes.
00:37:09.700 Yes.
00:37:09.980 And that tells you, really, to me, that tells you all you need to know about these whistleblowers.
00:37:16.180 They have do they have strong credentials?
00:37:18.620 Sure.
00:37:18.880 But at the end of the day, they are bureaucrats who have been in the bureaucracy for so long.
00:37:23.400 They refuse to question the integrity of an agency that we have seen weaponized against half the country.
00:37:27.980 And they think it's insane to suggest that the FBI could possibly be corrupt.
00:37:33.580 It's almost as if they've been asleep for the last four years and haven't paid attention to.
00:37:37.180 Oh, I don't know.
00:37:37.700 Operation Crossfire Hurricane.
00:37:38.840 Yeah, I don't think they have.
00:37:40.460 So Dave Phelan, he is the speaker of the Texas House.
00:37:45.000 This guy should be impeached himself for this because you don't give somebody this kind of power and have them abuse it in this way without some sort of some some sort of, you know, penalty.
00:38:03.060 And it should be he's either removed or the people remove him.
00:38:07.340 This is the House.
00:38:08.520 So it's every two years, right?
00:38:09.700 I believe so.
00:38:10.420 So they're all coming up for election.
00:38:12.740 Andrew Murr.
00:38:13.760 He's the House manager.
00:38:15.080 Is he kind of the leader of?
00:38:16.800 He is.
00:38:17.560 He is.
00:38:18.060 And he has a mustache that very much annoys me.
00:38:21.540 OK.
00:38:21.900 Well, not for the mustache reason, but he should be replaced.
00:38:27.420 Jeff Leach is also one of the managers.
00:38:31.160 We have Briscoe Kane is another one.
00:38:34.680 And what's Charlie's last name?
00:38:36.600 Charlie Guerin.
00:38:37.360 Yeah.
00:38:37.720 These guys, they're going to be up for reelection in very, very red parts of Texas.
00:38:44.400 There is no reason John Cornyn should go back to the Senate in a very red area of Texas.
00:38:51.600 There's no reason that these guys.
00:38:54.540 And I'm telling you, I mean, you have much more on this than I do.
00:38:59.380 I just have this feeling.
00:39:00.620 I was reading an article earlier this week and I'm reading about it and I'm like, this is Bush.
00:39:05.300 And there wasn't anything in the article that said that it just like felt it.
00:39:09.520 This is Bush.
00:39:10.880 These are the same guys like McConnell and they got to go.
00:39:15.860 Got to go.
00:39:17.380 Could I also add to that, Glenn?
00:39:19.380 It I can't stress how important this is to the country, because if they are successful at doing this, if they are successful, this will become the blueprint for the entire country.
00:39:29.300 So that the globalists and the establishment can remove duly elected officials that we, the people, put into office because we wanted them to fight for us.
00:39:39.140 And this will be the blueprint to remove them anyway.
00:39:42.260 Yeah, that's what they're doing to the House caucus right now, the Freedom Caucus.
00:39:45.560 They're saying they're extremists.
00:39:46.680 They're terrorists.
00:39:48.040 This line of Republicans have always hated the Tea Party and their values.
00:39:54.740 That's just the truth.
00:39:56.460 They are progressives.
00:39:58.340 They believe they know better than you.
00:40:01.980 And if this kind of stuff can go on, you know, you think you're just dealing with it with with Donald Trump.
00:40:08.040 You're not.
00:40:08.680 You're dealing with it with January 6th.
00:40:11.520 You're dealing with it with Donald Trump.
00:40:13.580 You're dealing with it here.
00:40:17.260 If we don't teach the lesson, don't you dare do this.
00:40:22.700 If somebody breaks the law and you have evidence, bring it.
00:40:28.340 But not this.
00:40:30.060 Not this.
00:40:32.000 Thank you so much.
00:40:33.040 Thank you so much.
00:40:33.680 I'd urge everyone in Texas.
00:40:35.300 Call your senators.
00:40:37.140 Tweet them.
00:40:38.040 Email them.
00:40:38.620 Let them know that this cannot stand.
00:40:40.920 You know, it's weird.
00:40:41.360 I called mine.
00:40:43.260 What?
00:40:44.000 Yesterday, was it?
00:40:44.980 Yeah.
00:40:45.280 Yeah.
00:40:45.560 Or yesterday or the day before.
00:40:47.480 And and this has never happened to me.
00:40:50.120 But I'm like, can I can I can I talk to the senator?
00:40:54.340 No, no.
00:40:55.960 He's really busy.
00:40:57.440 OK, can I leave a message?
00:40:59.440 Sure.
00:41:00.140 Left a message.
00:41:02.820 I'm not heard back from that.
00:41:04.460 I mean, you know, that's great.
00:41:06.380 I mean, you know, he's probably really busy, but I've never experienced that as one of the biggest talk show hosts in America.
00:41:14.880 I've never I've never experienced that.
00:41:16.920 So it's a new thing for me, which I I'm I'm grateful.
00:41:21.460 So, Sarah, thank you so much.
00:41:23.080 Thank you.
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