In this episode, we talk about the importance of being a friend to all, but not a softy, and why we should be critical of the candidates we hear on CNN and other conservative media outlets. We also talk about why we don't need to be softies, and what we should do instead.
00:05:24.580Do you and members of the Intelligence Committee have any idea what's going on?
00:05:31.940Well, we know some things are going on.
00:05:35.880We know certain things are happening, but there's a whole lot we don't know.
00:05:39.440And in particular, there's a whole lot we don't know about the so-called objects brought down by fighter jets firing missiles over the weekend.
00:05:49.020And that was the focus of yesterday's classified briefing.
00:06:31.700So, first of all, we don't really know what they are.
00:06:34.560I don't know how they claim now to know what their nature is, whether they're commercial, military or from some other origin, because they haven't found them.
00:06:47.640I suspect at this point that they're theorizing on what it might be.
00:06:53.080That was what was so frustrating yesterday is they held this classified briefing to tell us about what happened.
00:06:58.780And they showed up and basically said, we don't know what happened.
00:07:02.200And we had all hoped and expected, based on public statements, that they had covered what was left of these objects and that they were studying them.
00:07:12.420They haven't found them, at least as of yesterday when they briefed us.
00:07:58.660But I still can't fathom why it made sense to scramble fighter jets, shoot missiles at them, bring them down when we have no idea what they are.
00:08:34.560There are things in there that I probably shouldn't repeat from what I know.
00:08:39.700But it's safe to say that we did know before this thing hit the United States that it was in the air.
00:08:47.400We were aware of it and we knew what was happening.
00:08:52.080And so, at that moment, they really should have brought the thing down.
00:08:55.620And at whatever moment they realized that it was coming on in the United States and that it had the ability to collect data, they should have brought it down.
00:09:08.920We kept hearing last week about the fact that, well, you know, it wouldn't have been safe to bring it down over the United States.
00:09:22.380And so, if you puncture the balloon, it's going to head straight down.
00:09:26.760Now, yes, there's a debris field, but there is a lot of space between Alaska, off the coast of Alaska, to be clear, and the rest of the United States, where there are miles and miles around, where there are no people.
00:11:09.760There is another possibility here that they are using this, whatever it is, that they are using this to get people off of the Nord Stream pipeline story from Seymour Hersh.
00:11:23.320And I don't know how much you can talk about it or what, what you know, but Mike, I find this extraordinarily concerning because there's only a few countries that could do it.
00:11:39.000None of them really had the incentive or they would have let us know.
00:11:43.240If it was another country, would you have gotten a briefing on that?
00:11:48.440Do you think if they would have told us?
00:11:54.080We don't necessarily get those briefings just because they feel like it.
00:11:59.060Usually it's because a member is asking or because there's been national news about something and they decide they need to brief all members.
00:12:07.280I'll tell you, I haven't gotten a briefing on this.
00:12:10.100All of this, of course, goes back to this report published by journalist Seymour Hersh last week, indicating that, according to his story, there were specialized U.S. Navy teams that planted explosives there and that the United States was responsible.
00:12:33.540I'm trying to ascertain whether it's true.
00:12:35.300But I will say this, we need to approach a near-peer nuclear-armed geopolitical adversary with extreme caution.
00:12:45.980And so I would like to think that if we were going to do something like this, there would be some sort of clear authorization from Congress.
00:12:52.760You see the chief executive, the president of the United States, commander-in-chief and all, doesn't have the ability to take us to war.
00:12:58.340I don't think it's a stretch to say that doing this, not just to Russia, a nuclear-armed near-peer geopolitical adversary, but it's also an attack on France and on Germany that affects a lot of Europe.
00:13:12.860I would like to think they'd get congressional authorization of some sort before doing that.
00:13:16.820Well, he said that there was a way around that because, obviously, they should have done that if we were involved.
00:13:25.640I just don't believe that all of the allies, with all of our technology and everything else, we can't figure out, okay, it looks like it's probably these people.
00:13:37.140I personally, because they're so zipped up about it, it's got to come from the West, and the only ones that can do it, really, are France or us, or Great Britain, and those guys wouldn't do it.
00:13:48.780But, you know, you look at this, Mike, and even if that's not true, can we find out if anything in that report is true, far as that there is a secret to SEAL teams that can be trained off the books so Congress doesn't know about it?
00:14:09.020Yeah, look, I think there are a lot of details, or at least enough details, in the Seymour Hersh piece that this should be fairly amenable to being proven or disproven, because either certain things match up or they don't.
00:14:28.780It may be easier to disprove than to prove, but I think that can get us a lot of the way there.
00:14:35.000And, yeah, there are others who could have done it.
00:14:36.900I mean, in theory, it could have been China.
00:14:38.820Perhaps China wanted to make sure that it had access to more of Russia's natural gas and that it could get it at a lower price.
00:14:59.760I'm not familiar with any of the facts alleged in his report, but there are a couple of things that worry me.
00:15:06.900Number one, on February 9th, 2022, President Biden, during a press conference, said that if Russia attacks Ukraine, there will no longer be a Nord Stream 2.
00:15:21.160The journalist who had asked him the question about what he meant was doing her job and followed up and said, what do you mean by that?
00:15:28.760That pipeline's under, you know, not under our control.
00:15:32.640And he reassured her, believe me, we have the means to do it.
00:15:41.480And so, when you couple that, with the fact that in this country we have for a long time seen overreaches by the executive to the point where a lot of people just accept now that in the name of a clandestine operation,
00:15:56.480the United States can effectively wage war without an act of Congress authorizing it.
00:18:29.860Is very much a mixed bag, because as you alluded to before the break, the answer to this question, if it turns out that the United States was responsible, has very dire consequences.
00:18:44.120And I'm not even talking yet about what happens within our government, what the consequences there might be.
00:18:52.260Does this rise to more than an impeachable offense?
00:19:02.040Because if you go to such great lengths to engage in an attack, a provocative, offensive attack on a near-peer nuclear-armed geopolitical adversary, and you do so in a manner that violates our Constitution, because that's, as I see it anyway, it seems to me like an act of war.
00:19:26.480So, last I checked, war can't be just declared, just decided by a president.
00:19:32.760And sure, I know clandestine operations happen.
00:19:35.820Discrete military strikes are something different than something provocative on this scale that inevitably lead to, and in fact are, war.
00:19:44.860So, if we would find out that this is even a real possibility, what happens?
00:20:35.000And I do think it's important that we get answers on this.
00:20:38.620I would like to know, and whether we end up finding out or not, whether this thing is buried so far, so deep, by the military-intelligence-industrial complex in Washington that we can't get to it.
00:20:53.520Whether we find out or not, whether we did it or not, I think it's very important for us to have this national conversation.
00:21:00.260Because for decades, we've seen this gradual accretion of power within the executive branch when it comes to the war powers.
00:21:07.400And increasingly, Glenn, the way wars are fought these days, you don't typically have soldiers lined up on a battlefield in corresponding parallel columns.
00:21:26.080And so we need to have a national conversation about the fact that today, as at the time of the founding, we need our Congress, the people's representatives, to make the decision about going to war.
00:21:40.200And clandestine operations need to be reined in to something truly discreet.
00:21:47.460Mike Lee, thank you so much for everything you're doing, and we pray for you, and we'll keep you in our prayers for your safety as you continue to go down this road.
00:22:20.740Well, you've never been on this show, where we don't tend to have an optimistic look at what's coming our way.
00:22:30.680But I was listening to you, I think it was on the Rogan show, and I was listening to you, and you actually made me feel better.
00:22:39.100And I'd just like you to tell us your view of what's coming, the end of globalization, but also the end of China, because you say that's imminent.
00:22:55.640Well, that's a whole batch of things that pushes together into a small chunk, but let me do my best.
00:23:01.140There's two things that have dominated and created our world.
00:23:04.620And step one is, in 1945, the Americans found themselves facing down Stalin in Europe, and were like, oh, we do not want to tangle with this guy alone.
00:23:15.240We need allies to stand between us and the Soviet forces.
00:23:19.840But World War II had been the most destructive conflict in human history, and the only allies were countries that had barely survived it.
00:23:27.620So we needed to provide something to induce them to not cut a separate deal with the Soviets.
00:23:35.600Before globalization, everyone was kind of left to their own in terms of development.
00:23:41.600And if you had iron ore and coal and food and oil, you could industrialize.
00:23:47.660But if you didn't have all those things, you were probably a colony.
00:23:50.560Well, with globalization, you now only needed one, and you could trade for the others.
00:23:54.500And so we all started to develop and industrialize and urbanize together.
00:23:58.120After 75 years, that has brought us the global system we now know, global finance and global energy and global supply chains and global infrastructure and global agriculture.
00:24:09.380And so we have a population of 9 billion people, 8 billion people, excuse me, living more wealthy than any other period in human history.
00:25:12.120So the security underpinnings that allowed trade to happen are mostly gone.
00:25:16.980And the consumption that is done by young people is almost gone.
00:25:21.600And this was always going to be the decade that both of these trends broke at the same time.
00:25:27.020Now, China specifically is the perfect manifestation of what sort of glory
00:25:33.060demographic change and globalized security can bring to a country.
00:25:39.180Because for the first time in their history, they weren't preyed upon by the outsiders.
00:25:43.520They were able to consolidate internally.
00:25:45.560And they were able to use their large population to create economies of scale to take advantage of the global environment.
00:25:52.260That had never happened to them before.
00:25:53.900You fast forward that to today, however, and the Americans have lost interest in maintaining the trade.
00:26:00.760We're turning a little bit more nationalist on the Chinese specifically.
00:26:03.360And their demographic transition was the fastest in human history.
00:26:08.700And according to the newest data we have, not only did they overcount their population by about 100 million people,
00:26:16.280they now have more people in their 60s than their 50s than their 40s than their 30s than their 20s.
00:26:20.700And so we are looking at abject demographic collapse in the Chinese space this decade.
00:26:28.040And that assumes that none of the Chinese dependencies on the American Navy to import and export become a problem.
00:26:36.420So we're really looking at a simultaneous crisis here in China that is demographic, that is political, that is cultural, that is agricultural,
00:26:45.140that is in trade, that is in finance, all at the same time.
00:26:48.440And there is no way they walk away from this.
00:26:52.960So you believe that, I mean, what is all the positioning now with the, you know, the balloons and the tough talk?
00:26:59.760What's happening there with President Xi?
00:27:02.800Because on the surface, he looks, you know, rock solid, in control.
00:27:08.940You know, I think you would say to the average person, you know, who is the next leader of the world?
00:27:37.640Yes, China, using air quotes here on China, has existed in some form for 3,000 years, but it's only been unified in roughly the shape we recognize today for a total of 300 of those years.
00:27:50.700Half of that's under the Mongol occupation, and the remainder, most of that is under the American-led globalized system, where we basically said colonization is no longer kosher.
00:32:38.920Okay, so you say that China doesn't have an awful lot of time, doesn't have six months to wait.
00:32:59.140If your theory is correct, what stops them from being even more dangerous right now?
00:33:05.300Well, one of the things to keep in mind, well, I think it's great to compare what's going on in the Russian space to what's going on in the Chinese space.
00:33:13.500So from the Russian point of view, their population is dying out as well for a mix of reasons, some of which overlap.
00:33:19.660And they feel that if they don't militarily act to get what they see as a more defensible perimeter now,
00:33:26.680that they will not have the military capacity to try it five, ten years down the line, and they're right.
00:33:32.260So there is a scenario where if Russia wins this war and a couple wars beyond it,
00:33:37.900they actually are in a better position strategically.
00:33:41.380China doesn't have anything like that.
00:33:43.740There is no country or series of countries within reach that they could conquer.
00:33:48.540There is no war they could launch that would help.
00:33:50.460This is a country that, unlike Russia, is based on the import of raw materials and the export of finished goods.
00:33:56.720This is a country that imports almost all of the technology it needs and many of the intermediate parts.
00:34:01.920Really, it's best to think of China not as a manufacturing center, but as an assembly center.
00:34:07.100And I don't say that to denigrate them.
00:34:09.120It's just it's a different sort of economic model.
00:34:11.560And that means you have to have different support structures internationally in order to make it work.
00:34:15.420And for China, it's all about the movement and its movement they can't control.
00:34:20.960The U.S. Navy may only have half as many ships as the Chinese, but our fleet is fully blue water.
00:34:26.800Only 10 percent of the Chinese fleet in combat operations could sail more than 400 miles from the coast.
00:34:33.620That's not enough to support a global mercantile empire.
00:34:38.520We do that for them as part of globalization.
00:34:41.060So even if they were to capture Taiwan without firing a shot, it really wouldn't solve anything because they import 75 percent of their energy and 80 percent of the materials that allow them to grow their own food.
00:34:55.680So in any war scenario, you put a couple of destroyers in the Indian Ocean Basin, doesn't matter who you are, and you've destroyed the Chinese system.
00:35:05.100And it'll die within six to 12 months and you'll trigger a famine that will ultimately kill hundreds of millions of people.
00:35:15.080Now, that doesn't mean it's risk free.
00:35:17.940That doesn't mean I'm belittling what you're suggesting here.
00:35:20.720There is a chance that it could happen, even though I don't think it's a very high one.
00:35:23.920If the Chinese admit to themselves that they're facing demographic, economic, agriculture, and trade crisis all at once that will tear their system down, and I think they do realize that, then there's something to be said for picking the time and the place of a war, even if you know you're going to lose, because it lets you write the narrative, even if it's one of national failure.
00:35:49.220And if you're facing a deindustrialization collapse, that might, might allow the CCP to persist as a political ruler of the system into whatever's next.
00:36:03.380And so if you can guarantee your personal power for the low, low cost of 300 to 500 million dead Chinese from famine, that might be worth the cost.
00:36:14.520So make no mistake, this is not a war of expansion.
00:36:16.840So I kind of feel like what everything you're saying about, you know, China could be said about us as well.
00:36:24.320I feel, you know, you talk about the de-globalization, but that is the opposite of where, you know, build back better and all of that stuff is going.
00:36:34.780There are these globalists that are still trying to cobble into an even bigger system, you know, of the West against the East that I don't, I mean, they're not going down to the little local communities and saying, hey, let's all make sure that we're solid as local communities.
00:36:54.880I'm really not worried about the United States.
00:36:58.440So number one, we have the best demography in the advanced world and a better demography than most of the developing world.
00:37:05.320At current rates of aging, we will be younger on average than the Mexicans, the Indians, the Indonesians, and the Brazilians at some point in the early 2050s.
00:37:14.920We became younger on average than the Chinese over a decade ago.
00:37:20.020In addition, the United States created global trade.
00:37:23.080And one of the conditions in order to induce countries to join our security network was that we wouldn't take advantage of that.
00:37:31.360So as a percent of GDP, we are the least involved with the major economies in the world.
00:37:35.980And most of our economic integration is with Mexico and Canada.
00:37:56.140Our weakness in also we're the world's largest producer of oil and the world's largest producer and exporter of foodstuffs.
00:38:02.880Our biggest weakness is an electronics manufacturer.
00:38:06.040And if China were to disappear tomorrow, yeah, that's going to be a pain in the ass.
00:38:09.620We're going to have to rebuild that from scratch.
00:38:11.740We're going to have to double the size of the industrial plant over the course of the next five years.
00:38:16.180And if you think we have an inflation problem now, just wait till we lose access to Chinese goods and we have to build out our own system.
00:38:23.760But that will generate the fastest economic growth in the history of our country.
00:38:31.160And when it is done, we will have more reliable partners closer to home with shorter supply chains that use less energy and use workers that are local and sell to consumers that are local.
00:38:50.200I've only got a couple of a couple of minutes left, and I just want to make sure that I push back a bit.
00:38:55.280There are several critics of yours that say, you know, you've been saying this since 2005, that they were going to collapse, et cetera, et cetera.
00:39:17.020What I've described for China is an extreme case, but it's happening everywhere.
00:39:21.120So N equals zero historically for points of comparison.
00:39:24.780The reason why this is the decade that I think it's really going to go down is this is the decade where not just China, but a lot of other countries literally age into mass retirement.
00:39:34.200And there are no longer enough people under 30 to even theoretically repopulate.
00:39:38.560This is pretty much what happened to Japan, right?
00:39:40.940I mean, in the 80s, everybody thought Japan was going to take over the world.
00:39:43.600And then all of a sudden, just Japan just fell off the map.
00:39:53.800But the two big differences between the Japanese and the Chinese, Japan saw this coming 30 years ago and took steps to boost their birth rate and relocate industrial plant to better locations like the United States.
00:41:30.560There was really two sets of Nuremberg trials after World War II, Glenn.
00:41:35.020And the more famous one, of course, is dealing with Nazi officials on the political and military end and their atrocities.
00:41:41.620But there were a separate set of trials that were held for what was categorized as kind of the biomedical fascist state that essentially the entire health care sector was given over to the state as a means of procuring experiments and carrying them out on the people.
00:41:57.920And out of those trials came what's known as the Nuremberg code.
00:42:04.660You know, Google it any time that you want.
00:42:06.260And what you'll get to find, you'll read it in about 10 or 15 minutes, what you'll find is that basically every consonant, vowel, and syllable of the Nuremberg code, which was designed to prevent something like what happened in Germany in the 30s and 40s from ever happening again, it stood up for about 75 years.
00:42:23.940And then every syllable, consonant, and vowel of that code, Glenn, was thrown out the window and trashed from March 16th of 2020 when the lockdowns began.
00:42:32.920And really, even up until now, you know, we have incredible data from the Bureau of Labor Statistics about a gigantic rise in disability claims beginning in 2021, starting in the fourth quarter.
00:42:46.000You see that this stat is pretty stable going back to 2008, and then all of a sudden, the fourth quarter, it goes off the chain.
00:42:52.140Gee, what happened at the fourth quarter of 2021?
00:42:55.240I mean, it couldn't possibly be a jab mandate to force you to take a jab in order to work.
00:42:59.680And then a bunch of disabilities kicked in after that.
00:43:05.680There was a Michigan State study that came out that found just through 2021, it estimated well over 200,000 COVID deaths in the country from the jab.
00:43:20.340If you prorate that worldwide, it's something like 7.5 million deaths worldwide.
00:43:25.960And so whether it is the jabs, whether it's the virus themselves with the gain-of-function research, many of the same elements that pushed this toxic jab on people are the same ones that were involved in committing or creating this chimeric concoction in Wuhan.
00:43:41.120And so they're kind of guilty and culpable on both ends of this spectrum.
00:43:44.660And then the lockdowns and the masks and everything else, we get into all of this in the book.
00:43:50.340And I think where this book really, you know, with me and Daniel, you're going to get a lot of data.
00:43:54.240You're going to get a lot of policy specifics.
00:43:56.560But where this book, I think, goes next level, Glenn, is the meat of it in the middle.
00:44:01.060The personal testimonies, whistleblowers from the Department of Defense, from the health care sector, victims, people whose children were, you know, maimed, injured by the jab and can't get any relief.
00:44:12.240People whose loved ones died in the hospital because they wouldn't give them effective treatments.
00:44:16.600They were essentially medically kidnapped.
00:44:18.600Those testimonies in the middle, if you think this title is too provocative, and believe me, we did not utilize it lightly, okay?
00:44:26.340But if you think the Nuremberg trials, you didn't take Nuremberg trials lightly, huh?
00:44:37.280If you read and listen to these people and their suffering and the suffering that they witnessed inflicted on others, you read these testimonies, you will see that we not only didn't oversell what has happened here, if anything, we've undersold it.
00:44:52.840Okay, so help me out because the Nuremberg rules are very, very clear, as you said.
00:45:00.080And Washington Post has come out and said, this is not a violation of the Nuremberg Code, because these studies were done before they were released on the public.
00:45:19.860But one of the, really at the heart of the Nuremberg Code is the idea of informed consent, the idea of transparency, the idea that you don't force people into a medical experiment.
00:45:46.860On August 6th of 2021, Rochelle Walensky went on with Wolf Blitz and admitted that with the advent of the Delta variant, the vaccines no longer stymie the transmission of the virus.
00:46:01.880They're no longer a traditional inoculation definition of a vaccine.
00:46:06.000She went on to say that even the vaccinated now could get COVID and then spread the virus.
00:46:12.720So right away, whatever medical, before we get to the constitutional question, whatever medical necessity emergency that would have you contemplate the ethics of imposing this experimental substance on billions of people across the globe is already out the window.
00:46:28.740It won't even stop the spread of what we claim to be afraid of.
00:46:32.000She admitted this almost one month later to the very day she admitted that is when Joe Biden issued his anti-constitutional detestable executive order on the COVID jab, which he said for the entire year he had no power to do.
00:46:47.100And then out of nowhere, almost exactly one month later, after his CDC admitted the jab doesn't work, that's when he actually said you can't go to work unless you take the jab.
00:46:58.060That is a clear violation of the Nuremberg Code and proves once again, which isn't hard to do, that the Washington Post doesn't know what the Sam Hill they're talking about or they're just lying.
00:47:08.560So tell me, do you draw any conclusions on what the motivation would be?
00:47:44.680Every time they pulled back, Glenn, it's because the people either resisted to the point it wasn't enforceable or the courts made them do it.
00:47:55.720We had to sue to get Pfizer's documentation.
00:47:58.140They wanted those hidden for over for about 75 years.
00:48:00.920They never showed any empathy, any transparency or any humility at all unless it was forced on them,
00:48:07.500which shows you there aren't any benign and innocent explanations.
00:48:10.480And the best we could come up with, and it won't necessarily give you the warm fuzzy, is that this is just good old-fashioned greed, mind-numbing greed.
00:48:19.900If that's the best we're hoping for, then all the other ones are a little bit further down the rabbit hole, my friend.
00:48:25.360So do you have, we're talking to Steve Dace, he's Blaze TV show host of the Steve Dace show, follows this program every day on Blaze TV.
00:48:33.640He's also the co-writer, the co-author of The Rise of the Fourth Reich.
00:48:39.520Steve, when you're looking at all of this evidence, is there any real, tangible hope that anybody's going to be held responsible?
00:48:52.400I think the biggest difficulty with this is really not in the political system.
00:49:22.760And Ron said, you know, when you have less than 15 percent of American adults didn't take any of this gene juice, a lot of people are like, man, I don't want to believe I am a ticking time bomb.
00:49:32.200I don't want to believe I'm the next collapse suddenly.
00:49:34.220I don't want to believe I'm the next died suddenly.
00:49:36.440I mean, we have one of our colleagues here at Blaze TV on his show saying he thinks he's vaccine injured.
00:49:41.000OK, I don't want to be the next one who finds out a year later, six months later, that it's me.
00:49:46.480Let's pretend like this never happened and get on with real life.
00:49:49.100I think that, Glenn, there's so many people that were betrayed into buying into this that I think it's the masses of the people that really don't want to come to grips yet with the full scope of what happened here.
00:50:01.340Well, the book went on sale yesterday.