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00:02:14.500 We have Senator Rand Paul on with us.

00:02:17.340 I've got to talk to him about a couple of things.

00:02:19.480 A, staying out of war in Syria.

00:02:22.540 Two, Anthony Fauci, is he going to be pardoned?

00:02:27.900 But let's start with Doge.

00:02:30.040 The Senate Republicans hopefully are ready to just slash government spending,

00:02:38.580 and hopefully we do it in the fashion that Calvin Coolidge did it back in the 1920s.

00:02:45.420 Senator Rand Paul, welcome to the program.

00:02:48.380 Hey, Glenn.

00:02:48.940 Thanks for having me.

00:02:49.700 You bet.

00:02:50.080 So, how serious do you think this Doge thing is?

00:02:55.520 You know, I think it's very helpful because, you know, the problem is not just Democrats in Washington.

00:03:00.220 It's big government Republicans.

00:03:02.280 And I think Elon and Vivek bringing attention to this, we've already offered up.

00:03:08.140 I've been for 10 years collecting and arguing that we should get rid of waste.

00:03:12.080 We sent them 2,000 pages worth of waste that could be addressed immediately.

00:03:16.440 Some can be done through executive action.

00:03:18.360 And I think you can let people go.

00:03:20.680 You can fire people.

00:03:21.900 You can fire people for cause.

00:03:23.860 You can also change the contracting.

00:03:25.580 You know, one of the things Elon did at SpaceX was he started bidding on things,

00:03:29.960 and they started doing it through competitive bidding as opposed to cost plus.

00:03:33.700 The big companies, Boeing and Lockheed, would get their contracts and say,

00:03:37.100 oh, we bid a billion dollars.

00:03:38.840 Oh, sorry, we came in at 2 billion.

00:03:40.840 Well, you get 10% of whatever you come in at.

00:03:43.220 So, in fact, here is an incentive to come in over budget.

00:03:46.260 So, there's a lot of things they can do, and I hope they will do.

00:03:49.360 On spending reductions, there's a special procedure where if we send a billion dollars

00:03:54.680 to the administration to build a ship, and they build it for 800 million,

00:03:59.420 they can send the 200 million back to us through a special procedure called rescission,

00:04:04.100 and it gets an immediate vote, a privileged vote, and it's a simple majority.

00:04:08.400 Most of the problems we have is getting to 60 votes to undo bad things the Democrats have done,

00:04:13.900 but with this case, rescission, reducing spending that is sent back to us by the president,

00:04:19.040 it's a simple majority.

00:04:20.840 However, we tried to do this in the first Trump administration with a really small bill,

00:04:25.900 $15 billion cut, and it failed because Republicans voted with the Democrats to keep the spending.

00:04:31.440 So, we have to do this.

00:04:33.120 We're going to have 53 in the Senate and only one or two majority in the House.

00:04:37.420 We've got to see if we can actually get the majority of Republicans to vote for spending cuts.

00:04:41.760 If they all do, we can cut significant spending.

00:04:44.580 Would you agree with me that Donald Trump's different than he was in 2020?

00:04:48.880 That if we would have had him in 2020, it would have been a different situation entirely?

00:04:54.160 I think he's much more focused now.

00:04:56.200 His picks for his cabinet, I think, are light years ahead of what was going on in 2016, for sure.

00:05:02.000 Yeah.

00:05:02.280 And he really wants to disrupt.

00:05:07.020 He is not going to allow the status quo.

00:05:08.900 He saw the status quo use the apparatus of government to come after him individually.

00:05:13.900 And he realizes that in 2016, but again through 2020,

00:05:18.700 that our intelligence agencies were being used against him.

00:05:22.020 Both retired and, I believe, active, went after the whole Hunter Biden thing to say it was Russian propaganda.

00:05:28.780 And it turned out the propaganda was actually U.S. propaganda, calling it Russian propaganda.

00:05:34.020 And the FBI needs to be cleaned house.

00:05:37.580 Kash Patel, I think, can do it.

00:05:39.540 D&I, Tulsi Gabbard, I think, can do it over there.

00:05:42.420 And he hasn't picked, you know, moderate Republicans.

00:05:48.440 He's picked strong people on the COVID front, picking Marty McCary, a doctor from Johns Hopkins,

00:05:54.240 and Jay Bhattacharya, a doctor from Stanford, who have been leading leaders and pointing out this nonsense.

00:06:00.140 These are people I would have picked.

00:06:01.880 So I'm over the moon with some of these picks.

00:06:05.900 So what do you think is going to happen?

00:06:07.180 I mean, it's, you know, the White House is saying that Fauci may be pardoned in advance of anything,

00:06:13.840 which doesn't seem like you could do that, but they'll try it anyway.

00:06:20.860 I mean, at least it has to be, everything just has to be dumped and exposed.

00:06:27.140 I've sent referrals, criminal referrals on Anthony Fauci twice to the Department of Justice without really a response.

00:06:34.780 Merrick Garland hasn't done his job.

00:06:36.380 He's probably been the most partisan attorney general we've ever had.

00:06:39.560 I will send those referrals again.

00:06:41.640 If they preemptively pardoned Anthony Fauci, it will seal his fate as the architect, author, and godfather of the pandemic.

00:06:50.620 He's the one that funded it.

00:06:52.200 He's the one that funded the research and moved on.

00:06:54.720 He's the one that allowed the research not to be screwed up.

00:06:58.820 People don't quite get this.

00:07:00.420 There was a safety committee that was supposed to scrutinize dangerous research.

00:07:04.480 It was set up because of fear of exactly this happening.

00:07:08.440 There have been scientists talking about this for 20 years, worried that this is going to happen.

00:07:13.480 Anthony Fauci sidestepped the safety committee and allowed this research to go on.

00:07:18.340 Then when it came forward that he had done it, he's like, oh, nothing to see here.

00:07:21.780 We didn't really do it.

00:07:22.620 Oh, well, we funded EcoHealth, and they funded Ruon, but oh, nothing to see here.

00:07:27.300 And then he had the gall to say it wasn't gain-of-function, and it wasn't dangerous.

00:07:31.300 That's a whole lie.

00:07:32.420 All that's come out.

00:07:33.760 And really, we have him in his own words.

00:07:35.800 We have him in private saying, oh, we know it's really dangerous there, and we know they do gain-of-function research.

00:07:41.160 So we've got him dead to rights.

00:07:43.200 If the president pardons him, I think he'll just cement his role in history as being the architect of gain-of-function surgery.

00:07:50.380 So, but will we release – this is the one thing I'm hoping Kash Patel does.

00:07:57.220 I hope he releases just the raw evidence that has been gathered, you know, kind of like the Twitter files,

00:08:06.020 where we can see all the stuff that has been classified that should be seen by the American people.

00:08:14.980 With regard to COVID, we voted unanimously to declassify all of it.

00:08:19.380 So this was over a year and a half ago.

00:08:22.540 The FBI did do their job.

00:08:25.560 They did a report, and they said that they thought COVID came from the lab, that the virus or the pandemic started with a lab leak.

00:08:32.080 But they haven't released their report.

00:08:34.260 They've been told to declassify it.

00:08:36.420 I truly believe Kash Patel will look at that.

00:08:39.280 And the way you declassify it is this.

00:08:40.780 If there's a name in there, you don't want somebody to know a name or a source, you take that out of the report.

00:08:45.660 In fact, even when I read and see classified things, I almost never have seen a name or a source, which I think is good.

00:08:51.880 You protect your sources.

00:08:53.340 But I should get to see all the information.

00:08:55.460 And really, in this case, the American public should see all of the information.

00:08:59.280 Anything to do with Russiagate, anything to do with the abuse of the FBI to go after Donald Trump,

00:09:03.620 all that has to be publicly released as well.

00:09:05.980 Well, on Friday, here in Fort Worth, Texas, there was a judge that ordered Pfizer to release and produce all of its emergency use authorization file

00:09:18.800 to a group of scientists that want to look through it.

00:09:22.240 And they've been saying, well, we can't do it.

00:09:23.840 We can't do it.

00:09:24.340 And the judge finally just said, do it now.

00:09:28.260 Yeah, we've never had someone like Donald Trump or like these appointees.

00:09:32.580 And that's why first line of battle is getting them through.

00:09:36.440 There are many establishment Republicans, you know who they are, who are weak-kneed or, frankly,

00:09:42.400 just no better than Democrats that are looking to destroy Donald Trump's picks.

00:09:47.700 And so I'm going to be working very hard for Robert Kennedy, for Tulsi Gabbard, for Cash Patel.

00:09:54.860 These are, you know, those three right at the tip of my mind are going to have a lot of establishment Republicans questioning.

00:10:01.560 And we've got to make sure we get them through, and we've got to make sure everybody, you know, listening to the radio,

00:10:07.780 everybody out there is calling their particularly Republican senators and saying Donald Trump needs his team.

00:10:14.480 How long do you think, I mean, do you think he's going to get these, what do you call them,

00:10:20.620 out-of-session appointments where, because it took him like two years to get all of his appointments.

00:10:29.080 He didn't even get all of them in two years.

00:10:30.660 He needs them right now.

00:10:32.380 But I hate the precedents that that would set.

00:10:34.780 The vast majority, the vast majority would be very quickly.

00:10:37.480 I can tell you, I am hopeful that I will be chairman of the Department of Homeland Security.

00:10:42.280 So Kristi Noem's nomination will come to my committee. 0.77

00:10:45.820 My plan is, if elected in the next couple of weeks in January, to be the chairman.

00:10:50.420 I will have a hearing for her before the inauguration.

00:10:54.460 As soon as he officially appoints her after the inauguration, I may be able to have a vote that day.

00:10:59.700 Sometimes we will vote that day.

00:11:01.420 So while some of it was slow in 2016, the Secretary of State, Homeland Security,

00:11:06.620 several of these important positions were filled pretty quickly.

00:11:10.420 We plan on doing that again.

00:11:11.880 I would be surprised in the first week if we don't have four or five cabinet-level people appointed, voted on in the first week.

00:11:20.080 Let me switch topics to Syria.

00:11:22.720 The president made it very clear that this is not our issue.

00:11:26.460 You know, I went back this weekend and looked at a story from 2016 where the CIA was supporting one side

00:11:33.500 and the Pentagon was supporting the other side in Syria, and they were fighting each other.

00:11:39.380 And now the president, the current president, whoever that is, you know, bombed Syria over the weekend.

00:11:46.420 And I just had this bad feeling that the military industrial complex wants to have a war somewhere.

00:11:55.420 And Donald Trump is coming out and saying it isn't any of our business.

00:11:58.800 I know where you stand on war.

00:12:01.800 What do you see coming?

00:12:02.920 I agree completely with Donald Trump on this.

00:12:06.720 And the people who took over, the rebels who won, their new name is a new name given to an old group called al-Nusra,

00:12:15.540 which were associated with al-Qaeda.

00:12:17.800 So they were Islamists, meaning that they were for a radical, fundamental sort of nature of Islam 0.93

00:12:23.800 that doesn't treat women well, doesn't treat Christians well, etc.

00:12:28.220 A very primitive form of Islam. 1.00

00:12:30.960 Well, they've been fighting there for a long time.

00:12:33.800 There's also another group called ISIS that is actually somewhat the same, fundamental Islamist.

00:12:39.600 And then there are also other groups there as well.

00:12:42.460 There have been the Russians there.

00:12:43.800 There have been Iranian proxies there.

00:12:45.860 There have been Assad there.

00:12:48.000 Caught in the mix are hundreds of thousands of Christians who have always had sanctuaries since the time of Christ, frankly, 1.00

00:12:54.500 and are at risk.

00:12:56.000 And so we have 900 soldiers.

00:12:59.380 900 soldiers isn't enough to organize a parade.

00:13:02.840 I mean, 900 soldiers is not who you go to war with.

00:13:05.840 You want to go to war in Syria, you put 5, 10, 100,000 troops in.

00:13:09.860 You don't put 900 troops in there.

00:13:11.880 They become targets, not a deterrent.

00:13:14.600 They're not deterring anything.

00:13:16.140 But if some of them are killed, and I hope this doesn't happen,

00:13:19.200 then all of a sudden maybe we are drugged into the middle of a civil war

00:13:22.080 where there are no good people on either side of it.

00:13:24.620 Let me ask you one final question about, you've got a bill coming out that's similar to the South Korean law,

00:13:32.080 which I don't even know what happened in South Korea.

00:13:34.500 I'm still confused by that, where the U.S. Senate would allow presidential emergencies

00:13:39.380 to continue only with a majority vote in Congress, which I 100% back.

00:13:45.880 What does this mean to all of the emergencies that we have dating way, way back that are still in effect?

00:13:56.800 They expire.

00:13:58.760 And currently, if a president has an emergency, the emergency can only be stopped by Congress

00:14:05.300 if Congress votes to stop it, but then the president would veto it.

00:14:10.420 So it really takes a two-thirds vote of Congress to stop an emergency.

00:14:14.360 My bill would actually change it, where it's a simple majority.

00:14:17.520 We don't have to vote to stop it.

00:14:19.060 It stops automatically by statute.

00:14:21.460 We had this in Kentucky in our state government.

00:14:24.640 Our governor shut down the hotels, made it illegal to travel, made it illegal to go to church during COVID.

00:14:30.280 And the legislature couldn't stop him because they weren't in session.

00:14:34.800 So when they finally came back in session, our Kentucky legislature said,

00:14:38.360 governor's emergencies last 30 days, then they expire, and less affirmed by a majority of the legislature.

00:14:44.800 So this reverses it.

00:14:46.120 Instead of needing two-thirds to stop a crazy governor or a crazy president,

00:14:50.880 it actually takes a simple, you have to have a simple majority to affirm it.

00:14:54.640 So it really completely flips this on its head, and it's what we have all wanted.

00:14:59.320 And some partisans will say, oh, this is against Donald Trump.

00:15:02.700 No.

00:15:03.320 I had this under Harris.

00:15:04.540 I had this under Biden.

00:15:05.960 I've had this under—I've had this bill for years.

00:15:08.940 And both Mike Lee and I have fought on this out of principle.

00:15:12.840 Nothing to do with who the president is.

00:15:14.420 I don't want any president to have this kind of power.

00:15:19.720 We have got to reduce the power of the president of the United States.

00:15:24.040 And if he goes in and does everything by executive order, we lose because the next guy will come in and do exactly what Biden did and just cancel it all.

00:15:35.960 We've got to get back to a debate, to reason, and to Congress and the Senate actually doing their job.

00:15:45.400 This is something that people need to realize that it's not new because people get caught up in the situation.

00:15:51.440 They think it's about one person or another.

00:15:53.540 The constitutional position of conservatives and limited government advocates has always been that, as Madison said,

00:16:01.840 we divided the powers, we separated the powers, and we wanted to pit ambition against ambition.

00:16:07.360 In other words, the ambition of people to try to take power would be pitted by the others trying to keep them from taking power.

00:16:14.200 But over the last hundred years since FDR, the power of the presidency has gradually expanded,

00:16:20.500 and what we need now is a stronger legislature and less power for the central authority to balance that power again.

00:16:28.420 This was sort of Montesquieu saying that when the executive legislates, when he has both the power to execute and legislate,

00:16:35.780 that's when liberty fails.

00:16:38.320 That's when tyranny arrives.

00:16:39.740 And so, I don't know, people just need to realize this has nothing to do with an individual, a new president, an old president.

00:16:46.960 It has all to do with constitutional principles that have always motivated those of us who believe in limited government.

00:16:52.760 I think there's a lot of people awake to exactly that message, and your time is right now, Rand.

00:16:59.040 Thank you so much.

00:16:59.800 Appreciate it.

00:17:00.300 Senator Rand Paul from the great state of Kentucky.

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00:18:14.240 This is the best of the Glenn Beck program, and we really want to thank you for listening.

00:18:19.860 Welcome to the program.

00:18:22.500 From Breitbart News, a Border Patrol retiree, Randy Clark, a guy who's really been following what's going on in the border, is on with us.

00:18:33.520 I wanted to talk to him about a couple of things.

00:18:38.340 First of all, Randy, welcome to the program.

00:18:40.320 Have you seen any difference in Mexico and on the border since Donald Trump, I think it was last week, talked to the president of Mexico and said, you know, things are going to change?

00:18:56.080 Is the military of Mexico, have they done anything different?

00:18:59.300 So we haven't seen a significant posture change.

00:19:04.180 They are still actively keeping a lot of migrants in southern Mexico, from Mexico City all the way to Tapachula.

00:19:11.560 There's been some loosening from my sources in Mexico on the highway checkpoints, but the train, that La Bestia train that we have seen thousands and thousands of migrants use to get to the border, it's basically void.

00:19:25.880 You know, they are still very strongly doing that.

00:19:29.000 So my sources unofficially have said the number has reduced for November apprehensions to less than 50,000, which is important because that's the threshold.

00:19:38.920 Remember the 2,500 threshold per day that President Biden said in his executive order to deny asylum?

00:19:45.160 We're well under that.

00:19:46.460 We're close to 1,200 a day nationwide.

00:19:48.980 So it's staying pretty slow along the border thus far.

00:19:52.700 Yeah, it needs to go even, the number needs to rise on the trip back.

00:19:58.060 Are you seeing any movement at all on people who are either on their way to the border turning around or people that are here getting out?

00:20:08.000 Do we have any indication of that?

00:20:10.480 No, we certainly don't.

00:20:12.860 What we know is we're seeing caravans assemble.

00:20:15.640 We're seeing the Mexican government allowing them to walk for a few days, get tired, and then dispersing them to cities around southern Mexico, urging them to wait for a CBP-1 appointment or to use the CHVN parole program right now.

00:20:31.480 But that's the complicating factor, Glenn, is that's definitely going to end as soon as the hand hits the Bible and President Trump is sworn in.

00:20:39.980 We're assured that that's going to end.

00:20:42.000 So that's 1,450 people allowed in daily through ports of entry along the southwest border and another 1,000 a day through the airport.

00:20:52.700 So you're looking at nearly a million people a year under those two programs alone.

00:20:57.520 They're going to shortly find out that they're not going to get any appointments scheduled after January the 20th.

00:21:04.120 So the question is, how is Mexico going to kind of keep a lid on that pressure cooker they're going to have in a few short days?

00:21:13.140 We are talking to a retiree of the Border Patrol and a great reporter for Brightport News who is really an expert on this, Randy Clark.

00:21:22.700 Randy, the drug cartels have made so much money.

00:21:28.960 They've doubled the price since Donald Trump got into office of getting across.

00:21:34.580 I personally think this is just my opinion, but I think that we're almost in bed with these drug cartels and almost in business with him in some ways.

00:21:46.180 Donald Trump has said he's going to take him take him on, and I think he will militarily.

00:21:54.360 What's going to happen to, let's say, the new president of Mexico if she has to start cracking down on these cartels? 1.00

00:22:01.780 People usually die in her position in Mexico.

00:22:04.720 And I think we're seeing, you know, not an acknowledgment that she's going to be somewhat different than the predecessor in Mexico who believed in the hugs and not bullets.

00:22:17.340 There are still some battles between the Mexican government and the Sinaloa cartel going on, although it's not highly publicized.

00:22:25.620 But the murder rate there is through the roof.

00:22:27.560 The murders continue in Mexico.

00:22:29.260 So if she doesn't cooperate with the United States, they're still sitting on top of a horrible death rate for Mexican citizens in every state, really, in their union. 0.65

00:22:40.120 So I think it behooves her to cooperate, but we must act.

00:22:44.140 When you look at how many children and young adults are dying from fentanyl, it's marketed poisoning of our youth.

00:22:51.940 So it's something that, you know, I take the president and his word, too.

00:22:54.980 My last year before I retired was under, you know, Donald Trump and the same folks he's nominating to run this Department of Homeland Security were involved in the policies and practices that saw us reach the lowest number of border crossings.

00:23:10.640 They've got this all on the drawing board already.

00:23:13.300 I think they're just going to enhance it and run it into high gear as soon as they get in January and be very creative about how we undo this mess we've seen over the last three years.

00:23:22.220 Yeah, Randy, I, too, know a few people that he has hand-selected that are no-nonsense people that are gearing for this.

00:23:31.620 What would the reaction of Mexico and the Mexican people be if we just started sending SEAL teams in to take these cartels out? 0.76

00:23:45.300 Well, you know, I think in some Mexican states they would probably welcome that because, you know, if you look to see what El Salvador is doing right now and you see the phenomenal impact Bukele's, you know, policies are having on crime there and the murder rate, that's the way we all want to live. 1.00

00:24:05.540 None of us want to live in a place where you can't enjoy your surroundings and move and your children aren't safe.

00:24:10.560 So I think you'd have some people in Mexico saying it's about time.

00:24:14.820 The question is, can we push them to do for themselves?

00:24:18.580 And I think we can.

00:24:19.580 And I think we've seen that since January.

00:24:22.180 Right now, border crossings here in Eagle Pass that everybody witnessed on the news are down 80 percent.

00:24:29.660 They were 250,000 in a month across the southwest border in December of last year.

00:24:36.380 They are about 46,000 a month right now.

00:24:39.160 So we can see what Mexico can do if you if you really put the pressure on and nobody better than President-elect Trump knows the leverage that he possesses and how to use it.

00:24:50.620 So I think we can get a lot out of them without having to do that military intervention directly by declaring them terrorist organizations, by seizing that money, by stopping remittances to Mexico that are to the tune of 60 billion dollars a year.

00:25:04.380 So there's a lot that that President Trump understands and his crew understands they can do to get a handle on a lot of these things.

00:25:12.220 And I think the government of Mexico is already preparing for that or they would have undone some of their enforcement efforts once they found out Kamala Harris lost.

00:25:20.940 You know, if you ask the average person who has deported more more people than any other president, maybe they would say Eisenhower.

00:25:29.980 They, of course, would probably say Donald Trump here soon.

00:25:32.960 But the one that is way over everybody else, everybody else is in the two, three million kind of number.

00:25:41.000 The one that is the highest at 11 million is Bill Clinton.

00:25:46.680 And, you know, nobody said anything about that.

00:25:49.680 I didn't even I was shocked when I read that.

00:25:52.240 And I don't remember anybody saying anything about deporting, but he did it the right way.

00:25:58.460 And he got 11, 11 million people out from actually physically deporting and making it so uncomfortable that they would self deport.

00:26:07.320 What do you think Trump's move in policy is going to be like to deport all of these people?

00:26:14.980 Well, I'm going to take him at his word.

00:26:17.180 I think we're looking at mass deportation because it has to be a big program.

00:26:21.160 I've stood on the Mexican side of the river and watched a single group of over 2,000 cross the border in one single group.

00:26:30.060 I had never seen that in 32 years, never in that same area.

00:26:34.400 It would have been a big deal five, six years before to see 20 people, 30 people in a group perhaps crossing.

00:26:40.940 It would have created cry to stir amongst the workplace.

00:26:43.660 Let's get over there and let's find these folks. 0.97

00:26:45.840 2,400, it's hard to deal with.

00:26:47.820 So if the removals are not going to be on a pace to match what we saw coming in, it would take decades to get this done.

00:26:56.040 But I think there's, you know, we own the parole that we have granted out.

00:27:00.560 We know it was for folks that were unvetted.

00:27:03.200 So there are a ton of people that are out of status right now that were released, some released with notices to report to ICE offices across the country that have disappeared.

00:27:13.040 So I think no one's going to be more creative than the staff in January on how to get this done.

00:27:18.900 I think they have a lot of tools.

00:27:20.640 I think they need to look at the enforcement of employer sanctions provisions because if you disrupt the economy, people will stop hiring undocumented workers.

00:27:29.460 So I think they know that.

00:27:31.600 Tom Holt knows that better than anybody else.

00:27:34.380 And if you were advising the president, what would your policy be?

00:27:37.400 What would you push for for the punishment of sanctuary cities?

00:27:42.600 Well, you know, I think if you look at the existing laws, you cannot harbor.

00:27:47.200 You can't harbor, aid, abet, whether it's in a building.

00:27:50.340 Anybody that you have reason to believe is in the United States in violation of law, right?

00:27:55.060 So when ICE gives these detainers to these sanctuary cities for someone accused of rape that we know has already been removed, they are harboring when they don't let the ICE agents in there to do their job and they release them on the street.

00:28:07.720 So they're not only endangering their communities.

00:28:10.020 I think clearly you could say that is aiding and abetting.

00:28:13.100 That's harboring.

00:28:14.040 When you say you can't come in this building because we don't want you to do your federal job.

00:28:18.300 So I think with a Congress installed, it's a Republican, my advice is to get everybody together and harden this and make it very clear, just like everybody has pushed for how many years to prosecute January 6th violators, take the same impetus and go against folks who fight this federal government to the letter of the law and say,

00:28:39.400 hey, if you're a sheriff and you don't allow them in your county jails, if you release folks that we have told you, ICE has told you, are in the country illegally, you have harbored, aided, and abetted.

00:28:49.000 And we've seen rogue police officers get put in jail for violating criminal statutes while on the job.

00:28:55.480 Well, that should pertain to everybody.

00:28:57.900 And then you've got the pocketbook.

00:28:59.680 All of these states like California receives over $160 billion in federal assistance.

00:29:05.240 Maybe not penalize students, but maybe you can turn around and say, hey, maybe some secondary education programs at the liberal universities aren't going to get money if you don't abide by federal law.

00:29:16.440 So it's quite simple.

00:29:17.780 I think they're going to be more creative than I am.

00:29:20.680 I hope so.

00:29:21.980 I hope so.

00:29:22.860 Randy, thank you so much.

00:29:23.880 I appreciate it.

00:29:24.420 And thanks for all your writing at Breitbart and everything you've done in your history there on the border.

00:29:29.840 God bless you.

00:29:30.440 Thank you, Glenn.

00:29:31.260 Y'all have a merry, merry Christmas.

00:29:33.120 You too.

00:29:33.440 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:29:41.660 Welcome to the program and welcome to Stupid.

00:29:45.040 Thank you, Glenn.

00:29:46.520 Welcome.

00:29:46.960 And Donald Trump went on Meet the Press this weekend.

00:29:50.160 Yes.

00:29:50.760 This is what you're supposed to do.

00:29:52.500 Is it?

00:29:53.260 Yeah, apparently so.

00:29:54.740 We're just supposed to reflexively go to NBC News whenever...

00:29:58.920 Those days are over.

00:29:59.720 Well, I thought they were too.

00:30:01.240 No, I mean, he has to do them, but...

00:30:03.600 Well, does he?

00:30:05.240 Does he have to do them?

00:30:06.680 Yeah, I think he should.

00:30:06.740 Yeah, I think he should do a little of everything.

00:30:09.980 You know what I mean?

00:30:10.440 I think you shouldn't just go to podcasts.

00:30:13.260 You know, that's what Barack Obama did, remember?

00:30:15.600 And he was like doing interviews with, you know, who was that woman in the bathtub?

00:30:19.920 And you're like, okay, this is ridiculous.

00:30:21.920 You don't have to do the bathtub one, but I think you should go on places where you know...

00:30:29.660 It's adversarial.

00:30:30.340 Yeah, it's adversarial.

00:30:31.380 You're not going to get a good interview.

00:30:33.340 I think that's required as president.

00:30:35.320 I agree with that.

00:30:39.040 As president, not necessarily as a...

00:30:41.380 Even as a candidate, I think it's something you should do.

00:30:43.780 I mean, I think Kamala Harris should have done an adversarial interview during the campaign at some point, which she did not do. 0.99

00:30:49.780 She didn't do interviews. 0.91

00:30:51.120 I mean, she wasn't doing anything for a very long time.

00:30:53.440 Then they switched strategies and it did not help.

00:30:56.520 In fact, it went the opposite direction.

00:30:58.560 They really...

00:30:59.020 I do wonder, there is an alternate world, what that election would have looked like if she just continued to do nothing. 1.00

00:31:06.200 I think it would have been closer.

00:31:08.240 I think if she never did an interview, it would have been closer.

00:31:11.880 I think you're right on that.

00:31:13.140 I think you're right.

00:31:14.180 The more she spoke, the more you were like, oh, dear God, no.

00:31:17.460 No, don't do that.

00:31:18.500 Because I think they correctly realized that there were a certain amount of people who were very worried about a candidate that couldn't do an interview, right?

00:31:32.100 And so they tried to solve that by doing interviews.

00:31:35.660 And what they should have done is just let those people go.

00:31:38.900 Like, realize they're not going to vote for you and hope.

00:31:40.820 Has anybody noticed, and I am biased because I've been talking to him off air and watching him talk to a lot of people, you know, without cameras around.

00:31:53.740 And his grasp on deep subjects has changed a great deal.

00:32:02.300 Have you noticed Donald Trump in interviews is not the same guy he was in 2020?

00:32:06.960 Yeah, I think that's true.

00:32:09.620 He certainly seems to be more focused and has a real plan as to what he's going to do.

00:32:14.720 As we know, it's directly Project 2025, which he commissioned.

00:32:18.340 We should remember, of course.

00:32:20.440 Now, yeah, no, it does seem like he, you made the description, I think it was last week, which has been sticking with me, which is after 2020, he just spent four years just like, this isn't going to happen to me again.

00:32:30.760 Like, I'm going to make sure these things, if I get a president, if I'm able to become president again, I'm not going to be hit by all of these.

00:32:40.080 I'm not going to be surprised ever again.

00:32:41.700 Yeah, right.

00:32:42.240 And it seems like he's coming in.

00:32:44.520 He's ready.

00:32:45.240 Ready for this.

00:32:45.980 Yeah, he's ready.

00:32:46.620 The other thing that happened to him that I think has cut down all of his slams and everything else.

00:32:53.060 I mean, he still does.

00:32:54.380 But you'll notice he's not as crazy on things.

00:32:58.300 And I think that's what we mean, look crazy on things like just not as like, you know, worried about like name calling.

00:33:04.920 OK, yeah.

00:33:05.800 You know what I mean?

00:33:06.900 He's not like that as much because I think he's.

00:33:11.540 You know, I think it really this is just my speculation.

00:33:15.100 Put yourself in his shoes in 2014.

00:33:20.860 Everybody on both sides loved him.

00:33:23.920 Right.

00:33:24.540 Maybe not as the president, but they loved him.

00:33:27.800 Like everybody celebrity and he was a great guy and he's a philanthropist and he's done so much.

00:33:33.380 And then he gets in and.

00:33:37.720 Everybody that were that were his friends that knew him and knew what he was like.

00:33:46.360 They all of a sudden turned on him.

00:33:47.940 And I think that just took him by absolute surprise.

00:33:52.360 And he just kept he had to keep punching and punching and punching and punching.

00:33:56.900 And I think now a couple of things have happened.

00:34:00.980 One, he just stopped caring because you do care no matter what anybody says.

00:34:07.100 You do care.

00:34:08.080 He stopped caring.

00:34:11.340 And then I think when he was shot.

00:34:13.660 I think he found his purpose.

00:34:17.120 And I also think in the following months, he kind of became cool.

00:34:22.140 He became the guy who could go on Saturday Night Live and make fun of himself.

00:34:27.300 You know what I mean?

00:34:28.360 And everybody would accept him.

00:34:30.000 He became kind of mainstream again.

00:34:32.180 And so I don't think he feels like he has to punch anymore.

00:34:37.180 That's interesting.

00:34:38.180 Yeah.

00:34:39.200 Yeah.

00:34:39.660 I have noticed a difference in him.

00:34:41.860 I mean, I think getting shot.

00:34:43.720 Oh, it was critical.

00:34:45.900 That was critical.

00:34:47.060 It was change.

00:34:48.260 Yeah.

00:34:48.660 I mean, it has to change you.

00:34:49.900 Right.

00:34:50.080 Yeah.

00:34:50.720 And so he's going into this with a real plan.

00:34:52.760 And one of his one part of his plan, this is going to be clip four, is his plan to end

00:34:57.900 birthright citizenship.

00:34:59.200 This is, you know, obviously highly controversial.

00:35:03.240 Many people on the left do not like it at all.

00:35:05.440 They asked him about it on Meet the Press with, was it Wexler?

00:35:08.840 Christine Wexler?

00:35:10.220 Yeah.

00:35:10.400 Somebody that nobody's ever heard of because everybody who have heard of has no credibility.

00:35:14.380 There you go.

00:35:15.960 You promised to end birthright citizenship on day one. 0.96

00:35:19.100 Is that still your plan?

00:35:20.200 Yeah, absolutely.

00:35:21.540 The 14th Amendment, though, says that, quote, all persons born in the United States are citizens.

00:35:26.500 Can you get around the 14th Amendment with an executive action?

00:35:28.980 Well, we're going to have to get a change.

00:35:30.020 We'll maybe have to go back to the people.

00:35:32.120 But we have to end it.

00:35:33.180 We're the only country that has it.

00:35:34.540 Through an executive action.

00:35:35.440 You know, we're the only country that has it.

00:35:37.620 You know, if somebody sets a foot, just a foot, one foot, you don't need to on our land.

00:35:43.260 Congratulations.

00:35:44.020 You are now a citizen of the United States of America.

00:35:46.880 Yes, we're going to end that because it's ridiculous.

00:35:49.440 Through executive action.

00:35:50.380 Well, if we can, through executive action.

00:35:53.560 I was going to do it through executive action, but then we had to fix COVID first, to be honest with you.

00:35:59.160 We have to end it.

00:36:00.760 Okay, so notice what happened here.

00:36:03.840 She comes to the 14th.

00:36:05.740 Stu, tell me why the 14th Amendment was first written.

00:36:09.520 What is that really about?

00:36:13.600 I mean, am I wrong to say slavery?

00:36:16.680 No, slavery.

00:36:17.500 Okay.

00:36:17.800 It was written.

00:36:18.520 You looked at me like I was going to.

00:36:19.500 No, no, no, no, no, no, no.

00:36:21.100 It was written for slavery. 0.95

00:36:22.660 It was written because all citizens could vote and, you know, you have certain rights, blah, blah, blah.

00:36:29.300 And so the Southerners, the Democrats, said, well, they're not citizens.

00:36:34.000 They're not citizens.

00:36:35.220 They're from Africa. 0.97

00:36:37.560 So they can't vote.

00:36:38.780 Yeah, so they can't vote.

00:36:39.840 Okay.

00:36:40.120 If you were born here, even if you were born a slave, you're a citizen.

00:36:45.960 That's what that was about.

00:36:47.320 That was not about illegal immigration, illegal immigration.

00:36:51.040 Come over here, get into a hospital, have a baby. 1.00

00:36:53.400 And now congratulations.

00:36:55.080 Everybody is a citizen that we are the only one that has it.

00:36:58.960 And the only reason we do have it is because of slavery.

00:37:02.960 It was a way to make sure the Democrats didn't just cut blacks out of the vote again.

00:37:10.820 That's what's so crazy.

00:37:12.300 And so notice she goes, he says, we may have to go back to the people.

00:37:16.880 Can you just change that?

00:37:18.640 Well, no, it's a constitutional amendment.

00:37:20.400 So we may have to go back to the people. 0.96

00:37:22.560 He says that first.

00:37:23.600 Her immediate response is through executive action.

00:37:28.060 No, I just, I just said we may have to go back to the people. 0.95

00:37:33.600 There are several parts in this interview where she doesn't, it doesn't seem like she's even listening to him.

00:37:37.700 She's got this idea of what Donald Trump says in this moment.

00:37:40.520 And she's like already acted it out with her producers multiple times.

00:37:44.840 So she's just not even listening.

00:37:46.420 Yes.

00:37:46.740 And I also, that's why they, that's why none of them have any credibility because there's not an honest exchange.

00:37:53.140 There is no honest questions.

00:37:55.780 He just said, we may have to go.

00:37:58.340 He volunteered.

00:37:59.940 We may have to go back to the American people for that. 0.95

00:38:03.580 So you're suggesting that maybe it would be a constitutional amendment.

00:38:07.420 Well, yeah, I think we would have to do it.

00:38:09.040 I might, I might, if I, if I get stuck, I might try to find a way to do it through executive action, but it is a constitutional amendment.

00:38:15.960 So yes, that's an honest conversation.

00:38:19.080 Right.

00:38:19.340 That's not what she did.

00:38:20.360 No.

00:38:21.040 Do we have this clip handy again to play it again?

00:38:23.080 I want to see if you, if you catch this one little bit in this, this is a clip four again.

00:38:27.740 Listen to her verbiage of the 14th amendment. 1.00

00:38:31.780 You promised to end birthright citizenship on day one. 0.96

00:38:34.900 Is that still your plan?

00:38:36.020 Yeah, absolutely.

00:38:36.860 The 14th amendment though says that quote, all persons born in the United States are citizens.

00:38:42.500 Can you get around the 14th?

00:38:43.780 Is that a quote?

00:38:47.240 All persons born in the United States are citizens.

00:38:50.580 That's what she said.

00:38:51.300 The 14th amendment says.

00:38:52.380 Now that you asked me, I doubt it is.

00:38:54.640 Right.

00:38:55.080 But I don't do, have you looked it up?

00:38:56.640 I have it.

00:38:57.160 Okay.

00:38:57.320 All persons born or naturalized in the United States.

00:39:01.100 So she leaves that out, but not necessarily important to the conversation.

00:39:04.280 But the next part is comma and subject to the jurisdiction thereof, comma, are citizens

00:39:12.880 of the United States and of the state where in they reside.

00:39:15.880 The whole 14th amendment argument, and you might disagree with this part of it, is that that

00:39:22.200 praise and subject to the jurisdiction thereof means that illegal immigrants are not included.

00:39:30.160 Now I, you know, well, they're not subject to that jurisdiction.

00:39:35.800 So in other words, the, well, if mom and baby would be right, if mom and baby were here,

00:39:42.380 then they would be subject to that jurisdiction, but the family would not be because there are

00:39:48.640 someplace else.

00:39:49.460 I think the, the argument, and again, I, I wouldn't say I'm an expert on the 14th amendment

00:39:54.440 argument here.

00:39:55.400 I, I, I'm going to tell you, but I absolutely am so far away from an expert.

00:40:01.320 Right, right, right.

00:40:01.800 Okay.

00:40:01.920 You might as well talk to a fisherman.

00:40:03.280 What I have heard is people make this argument before.

00:40:06.360 And the argument basically is to be subject to that jurisdiction does not mean that you

00:40:12.740 don't, you know, everyone of course has to follow the laws of a country that you, you

00:40:16.180 move into, but to be subject to that jurisdiction means that you have to have a basis in the

00:40:20.920 country.

00:40:22.040 So it's not like you just cross the border and Hey, I'm now, I'm now a subject of this

00:40:26.520 jurisdiction.

00:40:27.300 You're a visitor, right?

00:40:29.040 Like, or in this case, a criminal crossing the border.

00:40:32.380 Um, so you would not get necessarily those protections, um, of, of that 14th amendment.

00:40:39.200 May I just say the only thing I hate the founders for is their use of commas.

00:40:47.360 That's a good point.

00:40:48.660 Stop with the use of commas.

00:40:51.020 Could you please, for the love of Pete, uh, the right to keep and bear arms, comma, under

00:40:59.580 a regular, uh, a well-run regulated militia, comma, shall not be infringed.

00:41:04.740 Can you stop with the commas?

00:41:05.560 Right.

00:41:06.320 It makes it too complex now.

00:41:07.720 Stop with the commas.

00:41:09.160 It's very true.

00:41:10.040 But I mean, I think, I think for, regardless of what you think about the argument of, of

00:41:16.740 the 14th amendment and people who are, who believe illegal immigrants would not be, um,

00:41:22.620 uh, grandfathered into that.

00:41:26.580 If it's foundational to the argument, why would you skip it?

00:41:31.240 Right.

00:41:31.900 Right.

00:41:32.180 Like, right.

00:41:33.340 You have to bring that up.

00:41:35.240 Could you do me a favor?

00:41:36.600 Do you have chat CPT, uh, or something like a rock or something?

00:41:41.440 Yeah.

00:41:41.900 Type that in and ask what that means.

00:41:46.000 Sure.

00:41:46.580 We can see.

00:41:47.120 It'll take me a second, obviously.

00:41:48.280 Yeah.

00:41:48.420 Yeah.

00:41:48.820 All right.

00:41:49.360 Um, do you want to, do you want to go to onto the next clip or you want to stick?

00:41:52.140 Yeah, let's go to the next clip.

00:41:53.240 Okay.

00:41:53.520 Next one is, uh, on, uh, Ukraine and what needs to happen with Ukraine.

00:41:58.400 This is again, Trump on meet the press.

00:42:00.000 There are people being killed in that war at levels that nobody's ever seen before.

00:42:05.460 You have to go back to the second world war.

00:42:07.900 And even that, if you take a look at, and you know what it is, it's the soldiers largely.

00:42:13.820 The cities have been emptied out and demolished.

00:42:16.420 The country has been demolished.

00:42:19.540 If I won that election, which you know how I feel about it, I won't get into it because

00:42:24.220 we don't need to start that argument.

00:42:25.540 I think it's an easy argument.

00:42:26.680 It was really proven even more conclusively by the wind that I had on this one.

00:42:31.400 But, but you did.

00:42:32.140 Had I, well, that's your opinion, but I disagree with it.

00:42:35.280 Had I assumed, kept control, number one, Israel wouldn't have happened. 0.99

00:42:41.540 Number two, Ukraine would have never happened. 0.97

00:42:43.200 It would have never happened.

00:42:44.060 Ukraine, Russia.

00:42:44.720 But the number of people that are being killed, soldiers, young, beautiful soldiers, hundreds

00:42:52.000 of thousands of people are being killed.

00:42:55.520 And you know, it's very interesting.

00:42:56.800 It's level, totally level.

00:42:58.700 The battlefields, totally level.

00:43:00.520 You know what's happening?

00:43:01.520 The only thing that stops a bullet, you know what it is, is a body, a human body.

00:43:05.320 And the people that are being killed, hundreds of thousands on both sides.

00:43:10.840 Russia's lost probably 500,000.

00:43:13.860 Ukraine's lost higher than they say, probably 400,000.

00:43:17.960 You're talking about hundreds of thousands of bodies laying all over fields.

00:43:23.760 It's the stupidest thing I've ever seen, and it should have never been allowed to happen.

00:43:27.780 Biden should have been able to stop it.

00:43:29.560 Amen.

00:43:32.200 He's absolutely right.

00:43:34.780 And when this is over, and the body count is actually revealed, and when you see BlackRock

00:43:44.620 there rebuilding, when you see all of these friends of the Bidens rebuilding, when you

00:43:52.560 see BlackRock owning the farmland, then maybe you will start to have some idea of how grotesque

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