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00:00:00.000 On today's podcast, the Argentinian prime minister, what he said at the UN yesterday,

00:00:05.320 it was amazing. Sounds something like, you know, what a founding father or a president

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00:01:56.400 You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck program. So Javier Belay got up yesterday to the

00:02:14.540 United Nations, and this is worth reading almost verbatim. Listen to this to the authorities of the

00:02:21.640 United Nations, to the representatives of the various countries that make up the United Nations and to all

00:02:26.140 the citizens of the world who are watching us. Good afternoon. For those who do not know,

00:02:31.720 I'm not a politician. I'm an economist, a libertarian liberal economist who has never had the ambition

00:02:38.460 to be a politician. I'm an economist, a liberal libertarian economist who's never had that, but I

00:02:44.720 was honored to be in the, uh, honored with the position of president of the Argentine Republic in the

00:02:51.400 face of resounding failure of more than a century of collective policies. This is my first speech in

00:02:58.380 front of the United Nations General Assembly. And I'd like to take this opportunity with humility to

00:03:04.080 alert the various nations of the world to the path that they have been treading for decades and the

00:03:10.220 danger of this organization's failure to fulfill its original mission. I do not come here to tell the

00:03:16.800 world what to do. I come here to tell the world on the one hand, what will happen if the United

00:03:23.040 Nations continues to promote collectivist policies, which they have been promoting under the mandate of

00:03:29.140 the 2030 agenda. And on the other hand, what are the values of the new Argentina that we defend?

00:03:37.620 I do want to begin giving credit where credit is due the United Nations and he goes into 70 years of

00:03:42.900 blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah. Then he says

00:03:47.800 the successful model of the United Nations, whose origins can be traced back to the ideas of

00:03:55.040 president Wilson. Oh yeah. It goes on to Wilson. Let me, I want to be clear on the position of the

00:04:01.320 Argentine agenda. The 2030 agenda, although well-intentioned in its goals is nothing more than a

00:04:08.680 supernatural government program, socialist in nature, which sees, which seeks to solve the

00:04:16.080 problems of modernity with solutions that violate the sovereignty of nation states and violates

00:04:22.220 people's right to life, liberty, and property. It is an agenda that pretends to solve poverty,

00:04:28.640 inequality, and discrimination with legislation that will only deepen those problems. Because world

00:04:35.380 history shows us the only way to guarantee prosperity is by limiting the power of the

00:04:40.640 monarch, guaranteeing equality before the law, and defending the right to life, liberty, and the

00:04:47.020 property of individuals. Does this sound like a founding father? It has been precisely the adoption

00:04:53.820 of this agenda, which obeys privileged interests, the abandonment of the principles outlined in the

00:05:00.620 universal declaration of human rights in the United Nations, that has distorted this role of this

00:05:06.560 institution and put it on the wrong path. Thus, we have seen how an organization born to defend the

00:05:12.420 rights of man has been one of the main proponents of the systematic violation of freedom, as for example,

00:05:19.340 with the global quarantines during the year 2020, which should be considered a crime against humanity.

00:05:26.520 In this same house that claims to defend human rights, they have allowed bloody dictatorships such

00:05:33.340 as Cuba and Venezuela to join the Human Rights Council without the slightest reproach. In this same

00:05:39.720 house that claims to defend women's rights, they allow countries that punish their women for showing 0.99

00:05:45.160 their skin to join the Committee on the Elimination of Discrimination Against Women. In this same house, 0.99

00:05:51.200 systematically, they have voted against the state of Israel, which is the only country in the

00:05:56.500 Middle East that defends liberal democracy while simultaneously demonstrating a total inability to 1.00

00:06:03.180 respond to the scourge of terrorism. In the economic sphere, collectivist policies have been promoted

00:06:09.140 that threaten economic growth, violate property rights, hinder the natural economic process, preventing

00:06:16.200 the most underprivileged countries in the world from freely enjoying their own resources in order to move

00:06:22.640 forward. Regulations and prohibitions promoted precisely by the countries that developed thanks to doing the

00:06:30.740 same thing they condemn today. Moreover, a toxic relationship has been promoted between global 0.94

00:06:36.460 governments, global governance policies and international lending agencies requiring the most neglected countries

00:06:45.020 to commit resources they do not have to programs they do not need, turning them into perpetual debtors to promote

00:06:54.700 the agenda of the global elites. Nor has the tutelage of the World Economic Forum helped, where the ridiculous

00:07:02.500 policies are promoted with Malthusian blinders on, such as zero-emission policies, which harm poor countries

00:07:11.220 in particular to policies linked to sexual and reproductive rights, when the birth rate in Western countries is

00:07:18.400 plummeting, heralding a bleak future for all. Nor has the organization satisfactorily fulfilled its mission of

00:07:25.440 defending the territorial sovereignty of its members, as we Argentines know firsthand in a relation with the

00:07:32.180 Maldivian islands. We now have even reached a situation in which the Security Council, which is the most important

00:07:39.240 organization of the U.S. Army, and the U.S. Army, and the U.S. Army, and the U.S. Army, because of the veto of its

00:07:43.780 permanent members, has begun to be used in defense of particular interests of some. Thus we are today, with an

00:07:52.460 organization that is powerless to provide solutions to the real global conflicts, such as the Russian invasion

00:08:00.620 of Ukraine, which has already cost the lives of more than 300,000 people, leaving a trail of more than 1 million

00:08:08.700 wounded in the process, an organization that instead of confronting these conflicts, invests

00:08:18.780 time and effort into imposing on poor countries what and how they should produce, with whom 0.99

00:08:24.100 they should associate, and what they should eat, what they should believe in, as the present

00:08:30.000 pact for the future intends to dictate.

00:08:32.240 This long list of errors and contradictions has not been gratuitous, but has resulted

00:08:38.620 in the loss of credibility of the United Nations in the eyes of the citizens of the free world

00:08:43.280 in the denaturalization of its functions.

00:08:47.660 I therefore would like to issue a warning.

00:08:52.260 Listen to this.

00:08:53.620 We are at the end of a cycle.

00:08:56.180 Well, collectivism and moral posturing of the woke agenda have collided with reality

00:09:03.300 and no longer have credible solutions to offer to the world's real problems.

00:09:09.000 In fact, they never had them.

00:09:11.720 If the 2030 agenda failed, as its own promoters acknowledge, the answer should be to ask ourselves

00:09:18.880 if it was not an ill-conceived program to begin with, accept that reality and change course.

00:09:26.180 We cannot pretend to persist in the mistake by redoubling on a bet on an agenda that has

00:09:31.980 failed.

00:09:33.060 The same thing always happens with ideas coming from the left.

00:09:37.180 They design a model according to what human beings should be, according to them, and when

00:09:42.880 individuals freely act otherwise, they have no better solution than to restrict, repress,

00:09:48.760 and restrict their freedom.

00:09:50.120 We in Argentina have already seen with our own eyes what lies at the end of this road of

00:09:56.340 envy and sad passions, poverty, brutalization, anarchy, and a fatal absence of freedom.

00:10:04.120 We still have time to turn away from this course.

00:10:08.560 I want to be clear about something so there are no misinterpretations.

00:10:12.240 Argentina, which is undergoing a profound process of change, has decided to embrace the ideas

00:10:18.540 of freedom, those ideas that say all citizens are born free and equal before the law, that

00:10:24.660 we have inalienable rights granted by the creator.

00:10:28.280 Among them are the right to life, liberty, and property.

00:10:31.620 Those principles which guide the process of change that we are carrying out in Argentina

00:10:36.460 are the principles that will guide our international conduct from now on.

00:10:41.860 We believe in the defense of life for all.

00:10:45.120 We believe in the defense of property for all.

00:10:48.360 We believe in freedom of speech for all.

00:10:51.060 We believe in the freedom of worship for all.

00:10:53.240 We believe in the freedom of commerce for all.

00:10:55.720 And we believe in limited governments, all of them.

00:11:00.440 And because in these times what happens in one country quickly impacts the others,

00:11:05.200 we believe all people should live free from tyranny and oppression, whether it takes the form

00:11:11.000 of political oppression, economic slavery, or religious fanaticism.

00:11:15.460 That fundamental idea must not remain mere words.

00:11:19.280 It must be supported in deeds diplomatically, economically, material, through the combined

00:11:24.780 strength of all countries, which stand for freedom.

00:11:28.680 This doctrine of the new Argentina is no more and no less than the true essence of the United

00:11:35.180 Nations organization.

00:11:36.180 That is, the cooperation of the United Nations in defense of freedom.

00:11:41.420 If the United Nations decides to retake the principles that gave it life and adapted again

00:11:48.260 to the role for which it was conceived, you can count on the unwavering support of Argentina

00:11:53.240 in the struggle for freedom.

00:11:54.440 You should also know that Argentina will not support any policy that implies the restriction

00:12:01.100 of individual freedoms of trade, the violation of natural rights of individuals, no matter

00:12:06.200 who promotes it or how much consensus that institution has.

00:12:11.160 For this reason, we wish to express officially our dissent on the Pact of the Future, signed on

00:12:18.520 Sunday, and we invite all of the nations of the free world to join us, not only in dissenting

00:12:24.860 from this Pact, but also in the creation of a new agenda for this noble institution, the

00:12:30.880 agenda of freedom.

00:12:32.880 From this day on, know that the Argentine Republic will abandon the position of historical neutrality

00:12:39.960 that characterized us and will be at the forefront of the struggle in the defense of freedom.

00:12:46.320 Because, as Thomas Paine said, those who wish to reap the blessings of freedom must, as

00:12:52.300 men, endure the fatigue of defending it.

00:12:56.860 May God bless the Argentines and the citizens of the world and the forces of heaven.

00:13:01.940 May they be with us.

00:13:04.200 Long live freedom. 1.00

00:13:06.360 Damn it. 1.00

00:13:06.980 How great is that? 1.00

00:13:12.160 I mean, this guy is quoting our Declaration of Independence and throwing it in our face.

00:13:19.200 The Declaration of Independence and Thomas Paine, all of our founding principles, and he is

00:13:25.300 saying, and look at Argentina, it is turning around.

00:13:29.260 And he's saying, this has to be done.

00:13:31.820 Because this Agenda 2030, this new Pact for the Future, which the United States passed, signed,

00:13:41.780 excited about, he said it is going to cripple the entire world.

00:13:48.720 And he's right.

00:13:53.340 You want second citizenship. 0.88

00:13:55.240 Maybe Argentina is the place to get second citizenship. 0.93

00:13:57.600 So how, the question is just how long he's going to be there.

00:14:01.520 That would be my only concern, because he seems to be promoting all of the right things

00:14:06.440 and abandoning a historical precedent of neutrality, historical neutrality.

00:14:12.980 That's a big, a big change.

00:14:15.380 Does he have enough people to support him?

00:14:19.520 And not only that, but also, can he grow that and teach that to so many others?

00:14:27.600 I mean, we had, you know, we had all of our founders in a row, and we started from scratch.

00:14:36.040 And it took about 20 years to really screw it up.

00:14:39.600 Part of the reason why I think it's possible is because he's loud.

00:14:42.180 Right?

00:14:43.840 Like, I think part, maybe one of the problems we've faced over the past, you know, 100 years

00:14:50.100 or so is like, hey, we're obviously the most successful country.

00:14:54.120 Everything's working really well.

00:14:55.800 We all know it's because of capitalism and freedom.

00:14:58.960 Everyone else should know it too.

00:15:00.720 And over time, you know, with exceptions, right?

00:15:03.980 Like, you know, certainly you'd say Reagan was an exception to this.

00:15:06.460 Yeah.

00:15:06.580 Someone who really loudly spoke for the benefits of these principles.

00:15:11.180 Donald Trump is loud defender of property and freedom and individual.

00:15:17.580 Yeah.

00:15:17.980 He's just more, he's still active.

00:15:20.340 So I'm thinking more of a historical context.

00:15:23.100 But like, I think as with Millay, if he becomes, if this, if he's able to set this country on

00:15:29.540 this path and make it obvious what is, why it's succeeding throughout.

00:15:34.800 And definitely another addition to this and still up for debate.

00:15:40.000 But if it succeeds, which so far it really is, but, you know, it's short term.

00:15:45.220 We don't, we don't know for sure.

00:15:46.440 If it succeeds long term, I think there could be a really major change in the world.

00:15:50.060 Yeah, there could be.

00:15:51.200 All you need is one spark.

00:15:53.760 You know, the one thing that stuck out to me in his, in his speech was one of the last

00:15:58.960 paragraphs.

00:16:00.180 As Thomas Paine said, those who wish to reap the blessings of freedom must, as men, endure

00:16:06.980 the fatigue of defending it.

00:16:09.480 How many people do we know say, I'm just tired.

00:16:12.920 I'm just worn out.

00:16:14.000 I just don't want to look at it anymore.

00:16:15.440 Remember that line.

00:16:17.980 Those who wish to reap the blessings of freedom must, as men, endure the fatigue of defending

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00:17:35.120 Vivek, my friend, it has been a while since we've had a chance to actually sit down and speak.

00:17:40.200 Welcome.

00:17:41.080 Good to reconnect.

00:17:41.980 How have you been, man?

00:17:42.740 I'm good.

00:17:43.760 How do you think things are going?

00:17:46.500 Look, I think the tide is changing in a favorable way.

00:17:49.860 For Trump, it's going really well.

00:17:51.360 I actually hosted a rally in Waukesha, in Wisconsin, yesterday.

00:17:55.840 I was at the University of Pittsburgh, an unconventional place for a Republican to go.

00:17:59.960 But in the key state of Pennsylvania last week, I was in Springfield, Ohio, near my hometown.

00:18:05.460 Here's my sixth sense of it.

00:18:07.180 OK, I think President Trump is actually doing well with great tailwinds.

00:18:11.020 I have greater concerns for the Senate candidates in some of these key states.

00:18:15.440 And so I think it is a distinct possibility we win the presidency without a majority in the Senate.

00:18:21.460 And I think that that would be just too bad because we can't actually fully govern.

00:18:26.220 And so one of the things I'm trying to do is to help a lot of those down-ballot Senate and other candidates as well.

00:18:31.480 Put President Trump across the finish line, of course.

00:18:34.160 But we have an agenda to implement.

00:18:35.780 And this is about not just the next four years, but the next 250 years as a country.

00:18:40.920 And that also is why I put the book out this week.

00:18:43.620 And I want us to be ambitious about thinking beyond just this election about what we want to actually achieve.

00:18:49.700 And that, in some ways, is the point of this book as well.

00:18:52.020 So you've said the book twice.

00:18:54.500 Let me just try to teach this to all the authors.

00:18:57.500 Make sure you always use the name of the book instead of calling it the book.

00:19:01.860 That's why I put Truth, the Future of America First out this week.

00:19:05.720 You're a lot better at that.

00:19:06.700 Yeah.

00:19:07.120 Well, just remember that.

00:19:08.600 Truth, the Future of America First.

00:19:10.080 I call it Truths for a reason.

00:19:11.900 We've got to speak hard truths to the left, but also to our own side, which we sometimes forget to do.

00:19:17.840 And I try to do both those things.

00:19:18.900 So give me some of those.

00:19:20.540 Give me one on each side.

00:19:23.020 Yeah, I'll give you one on each side.

00:19:24.080 Perfect.

00:19:24.480 So the hard truth to the left is, for example, the climate change agenda is a hoax.

00:19:31.460 And that is provocative to many on the left.

00:19:33.480 But what I try to do is offer hard facts.

00:19:36.060 I give them one concession.

00:19:37.180 Are global surface temperatures going up?

00:19:39.280 Yes, they are.

00:19:40.540 Well, that opens up their mind and then listen to what you have to say next, which is that that may not be a bad thing for humanity.

00:19:46.760 In fact, eight times as many people die of cold temperatures rather than warm ones.

00:19:52.480 And the truth is, they used to be concerned about an ice age rather than being concerned about global warming as recently as the 1970s.

00:19:59.080 So those are the kinds of hard truths on climate religion, on transgender religion, on racial ideology that I speak to the left.

00:20:07.760 However, to our own side, here's also a hard truth that I think we need to remember.

00:20:11.900 We don't want to replace the left wing nanny state with the right wing nanny state. 1.00

00:20:17.140 And the truth is, even if Kamala Harris is proposing price controls, we don't like to admit it, Glenn, but there are Republican U.S. senators and congressmen that have proposed price controls in other sectors as well.

00:20:28.180 And I don't like that either.

00:20:29.400 I hate it.

00:20:29.860 So my answer, the hard medicine for the right in this book is, we don't want to replace that left wing nanny state with the right wing nanny state.

00:20:36.820 We want to get in there and shut it down.

00:20:38.780 And that's also a court thesis of this book.

00:20:41.360 So did you see Javier Malay's speech at the U.N. yesterday, by any chance?

00:20:46.120 I did, actually.

00:20:47.100 Yeah.

00:20:48.140 He's talking about kind of the same kind of things.

00:20:50.480 I mean, you know, he's directly quoting our Constitution, our founding fathers, and the Declaration.

00:20:56.640 I mean, the world is at a crossroads right now.

00:21:01.460 And then what hope does the rest of the world have if America itself abandons our own founding principles?

00:21:09.000 You know, one of the chapters as well that I write about is actually about our own history.

00:21:12.780 We've forgotten that sense of history.

00:21:15.060 There's actually Malcolm X who famously said that a nation without history is like a tree without roots.

00:21:21.400 It's dead.

00:21:22.560 And in some ways, that's what I try to do also.

00:21:24.640 In truth, I talk a lot about parts of American history and our Constitution and our founding culture that I think we need to revive and that young people in particular, Glenn, are hungry for.

00:21:35.900 I told you I went to the University of Pittsburgh last week.

00:21:38.360 It's supposedly a left-of-center campus.

00:21:40.780 But what I actually see is a lot of young people who are just hungry for something new, to be part of something bigger.

00:21:47.160 And it's staring in the face.

00:21:48.660 It's our country.

00:21:49.400 It's America right here at home.

00:21:51.140 And I think that that's where it's given hope to people like Javier Malay in Argentina.

00:21:55.320 We've given him inspiration.

00:21:57.320 In turn, I think we need to bring Javier Malay-style governance on steroids. 0.99

00:22:00.640 I agree.

00:22:01.240 To the United States of America.

00:22:02.440 And that's something I'm intent on.

00:22:03.860 Speaking of things that are truths that are hard for our side, one of your chapters deals with the three branches of government, not four.

00:22:13.660 But we look at the third branch, the executive branch, as this all-powerful branch.

00:22:25.720 It cannot be.

00:22:27.680 It cannot be.

00:22:28.580 We have got to shut so much of that administration branch down, fire and close so much of this.

00:22:37.780 And you've got a lot of Republicans who are like, no, use it, use it, use it.

00:22:41.420 No, that's really dangerous.

00:22:42.860 Glenn, I'm glad you said that because this is the defining debate in the conservative movement right now.

00:22:49.140 And we ought to have it.

00:22:50.000 And there's good people on the other side of it who you and I respect, but nonetheless, who you and I also disagree with.

00:22:55.060 That is the most important chapter in this book.

00:22:57.740 Do you guys buy truths?

00:22:59.100 Read one chapter of it alone.

00:23:00.700 Let it be that branch, that chapter on the administrative state.

00:23:04.760 We don't want to use the left-wing regulatory state to achieve conservative goals.

00:23:09.200 We want to take agencies from the CFPB to the SEC to the FTC to the FDA and constrain their scope massively, shut down agencies like the U.S. Department of Education, countless others that should not exist, and return that to the states where it belongs.

00:23:28.140 So it's not just the concentration of executive power, Glenn, which I agree with you on, but it's the concentration of power in the federal government.

00:23:34.660 It wasn't supposed to actually reside in the first place, instead being returned to the states and to the people.

00:23:40.740 Now, the publisher and my advisors, I've got to tell you, my political advisors are the same way.

00:23:45.180 When I ran for president, they say, don't talk about the stuff that bores people.

00:23:48.640 So one of the things I try to do in this chapter in the book is, you know, it's the stuff that's the most boring that's often the most important.

00:23:54.480 But I went out of my way in this chapter to try to bring to life how that administrative state, how that bureaucratic deep state actually has an impact on the lives of everyday Americans on the left and on the right.

00:24:07.620 And the goal with this book is to equip everyday Americans who agree with you and I to be able to make these points at the dinner table to their friends on the left.

00:24:17.740 That was my favorite part of the campaign is, you know, we can dunk on the left, we can defeat the left.

00:24:22.840 I did that during the media interactions I had during my campaign.

00:24:26.560 But my favorite parts of the presidential campaign were where we were actually able to persuade people on the left and bring them along.

00:24:34.180 And I've gotten questions from a lot of Americans, how do I do that at home?

00:24:37.720 That's exactly what this book is, a toolkit to arm them to be able to achieve.

00:24:41.540 And that's what we need to save the country.

00:24:42.660 So give me that argument, you're sitting at, you know, the dinner table with a relative, and you, you know, somehow or another come across the deep state, which is the administrative state.

00:24:54.980 Make that case to me.

00:24:56.520 I'm a liberal.

00:24:58.340 So look, here's what I would say.

00:25:00.000 You and I may disagree on policy, but let's agree on this, is that the people we elect to run the government ought to be the ones who actually run the government.

00:25:09.860 And if it's your side that wins or your policies that win, I agree to abide by them.

00:25:14.260 If it's my policies that win, you agree to abide by them.

00:25:16.840 But today, 99% of the laws, they call them rules, but 99% of the effective laws in the country are not even passed by Congress.

00:25:25.840 They're passed by three-letter agencies.

00:25:27.500 And there's a story in the book of a fisherman who was put out of business by cumbersome regulations imposed by the EPA and other agencies and Fish and Wildlife Services that effectively required him to pay money that he didn't have in order to actually just be a fisherman in the country.

00:25:45.280 And you know what?

00:25:45.960 Congress never passed that law.

00:25:47.660 So ordinarily, if that's a bad rule and a fisherman is being put out of business, well, people could vote their congressmen out.

00:25:53.980 But this time, you could vote your congressmen out as many times as you want.

00:25:57.300 That would still be the law of the land because it was a bureaucrat who could not be fired who wrote that into law.

00:26:02.700 So we give countless examples of small business owners, everyday Americans who have been harmed, who have been put out of business by laws that were never passed by Congress.

00:26:11.840 And I think that's something that people on the left and the right can both jointly agree on.

00:26:15.920 And I've seen that many of our friends on the left, one of the things we can do better, I think, in making the arguments is let's ourselves state the best possible argument they can make.

00:26:25.940 Let's state it first and then pick it apart.

00:26:28.580 What's their best argument on that?

00:26:31.980 Their best argument on that is that, well, we the people sometimes can't be trusted.

00:26:36.920 They would say that if we're left to our own devices, we're going to burn the planet so hot that humanity would cease to exist.

00:26:44.160 And what I reveal in the book is you've got to study history.

00:26:47.220 That was actually the argument of the old world.

00:26:49.760 I mean, King George in England, it wasn't that he looked down on us or wanted what was bad for America.

00:26:54.400 He thought of you as the subjects.

00:26:56.420 It was his benevolence to say that you, the people, can't be trusted to self-govern.

00:27:00.640 I'm going to do it for you for your own good.

00:27:03.520 That's the premise behind the administrative stage.

00:27:05.960 And so the American bargain is that for better or for worse, and we've got to admit, sometimes we'll get it wrong, but for better or for worse, we the people just create a government that's accountable to us, not the other way around.

00:27:19.360 And that is the American way.

00:27:21.600 You know, Tim Walz likes to call Republicans weird.

00:27:24.040 Well, you know what?

00:27:25.060 There's one response to that is America in the course of human history is a little weird because most of human history did it the other way.

00:27:31.580 But we're proud of that, and that's what made America great the first time, and that's what makes America great again.

00:27:37.340 And that's one of the theses of that chapter of the book.

00:27:40.860 Of which book?

00:27:42.360 Of the book, Truth, the Future of America.

00:27:44.360 Thank you, thank you.

00:27:46.280 That's right.

00:27:47.100 It's actually top, it's number one on Amazon as of yesterday.

00:27:50.360 Which is?

00:27:50.900 What is?

00:27:51.980 What is?

00:27:52.440 Truth, the Future of America.

00:27:53.780 Yeah, good.

00:27:54.720 I hope everybody here reads it.

00:27:56.680 I appreciate it, Glenn.

00:27:57.320 All right, so make this case to those on the left, I'm sorry, on the right that say, you know, this was, we all know this country was made for immoral and religious people, and our founders said it's wholly inadequate for people who are not.

00:28:13.260 We're just not that way.

00:28:14.680 We need the big state to force people back into, you know, decency, et cetera, et cetera. 0.93

00:28:22.360 Yeah, so this is the temptation we face right now.

00:28:26.080 Now, first of all, the same shoe will then fit the other foot.

00:28:29.620 We've seen that time again that once you create the vectors for government control, we may believe today that we're using the levers of the bureaucracy to advance good conservative goals.

00:28:40.020 Well, there will be, like it or not, in the next 20 years, there's going to be another Democrat elected.

00:28:44.340 And once that precedent exists, that's how they use that to really advance religion.

00:28:49.040 Not the religions that you and I have in mind, Glenn.

00:28:50.900 Yeah, but we've.

00:28:51.940 But religions like wokeism and transgenderism and climatism. 0.63

00:28:54.700 We have to fight fire with fire, Vivek.

00:28:58.500 So I believe that water is more effective.

00:29:01.880 That's what I believe.

00:29:02.740 I've always found that you put out a fire much more effectively with water.

00:29:06.620 And there's a time.

00:29:07.560 You've got to be a fighter.

00:29:08.760 And you saw me during the presidential campaign.

00:29:10.520 I'm not afraid to be a fighter.

00:29:12.540 But you also have to be strong enough to protect the thing you're actually fighting for.

00:29:17.560 Otherwise, you know, this is how this is how a nation ends.

00:29:21.240 Elliot once said, right, not with a bang, but with a whimper.

00:29:24.400 And I think that I worry that if we adopt the methods of the left, we're not going to defeat the left.

00:29:30.560 We're going to become them.

00:29:32.000 Amen.

00:29:33.400 And that's what I favorite.

00:29:34.440 That's a wake up call to the conservative movement in the book.

00:29:37.020 That book is called Truths, the Future of America First.

00:29:39.920 Well, there's two directions for the future of America First.

00:29:42.860 One could be the direction of using the administrative state and the bureaucracy and the nanny state to achieve pro-conservative ends.

00:29:50.780 That's tempting.

00:29:51.980 Avoid that temptation and take the right road envisioned by our founders from day one.

00:29:57.420 Get in there and dismantle that nanny state. 1.00

00:30:00.020 Shut down that bureaucratic state so we the people actually govern our country again.

00:30:04.740 That's how we save a country for the long run, not just for tomorrow.

00:30:07.860 You're streaming the best of Glenn Beck.

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00:30:16.100 Let me go to Rand Paul.

00:30:18.020 Rand Paul, Senator, welcome, sir.

00:30:20.620 How are you?

00:30:22.080 Good morning, Glenn.

00:30:23.160 Thanks for having me.

00:30:23.980 You bet.

00:30:24.820 So tell me what is – are we ever going to get to – we were just talking about the justice system and how corrupt it is.

00:30:30.600 And, you know, this system of the Secret Service, we're not getting – I don't think we're getting any real answers.

00:30:40.680 And it doesn't seem like anybody really cares anymore in the media or, you know, those in the Secret Service.

00:30:48.620 Am I reading this right?

00:30:49.680 I would say, as far as Congress is concerned, there's been a remarkable amount of concern both on the Republican and the Democrat side.

00:30:58.180 Yeah, I have been surprised.

00:30:59.940 We rarely get the Democrats to do anything.

00:31:02.880 And they signed on to a report that basically condemned the first assassination attempt as a compilation of errors.

00:31:11.240 I mean, just Secret Service errors, one after another, inexcusable errors.

00:31:14.560 And we condemned those errors.

00:31:17.440 But lo and behold, not a whole lot's been done in the second assassination attempt.

00:31:22.820 And it's once again full of egregious errors, a guy waiting for 12 hours.

00:31:27.120 Nobody knows he's there.

00:31:28.580 Turns out he's been there on and off for 30 days.

00:31:31.840 So, yeah, these continue to be human errors.

00:31:34.240 Now, the only success I can tell you is that they have at least now finally acknowledged they're giving the same Secret Service detail to Biden, Harris, and to Trump.

00:31:43.500 So, that is a step forward.

00:31:45.160 It doesn't mean that we have good people running the place yet.

00:31:48.120 But I've told people I'm not going to rest until there's responsibility taken.

00:31:52.920 And whoever was in charge in Butler, and really whoever was in charge in Mar-a-Lago the other day, they are not showing the ability to be in charge, and they need to be replaced.

00:32:02.300 I saw a story today that just says they're overworked and stretched thin.

00:32:06.980 Since when have we had a problem with budget?

00:32:10.720 Yeah, here's the thing.

00:32:12.100 And even that's not true.

00:32:13.240 And really, when you have human error, you shouldn't give the humans more money.

00:32:18.780 And the thing is, if you look at their budget, their budget's gone up like in the last three or four years, gone up like a third.

00:32:27.540 Just last year, it went up 14.5%.

00:32:30.080 We spend over, I think it's $1.3 billion.

00:32:33.880 This is not a funding problem.

00:32:35.620 Every one of these things we looked at, and we've written an entire report, came out yesterday, has dozens of errors.

00:32:43.060 None of them include money.

00:32:44.840 No one was in charge.

00:32:45.940 No one takes responsibility.

00:32:47.360 No one admits it was their job to walk around the grounds and say, wow, look at this roof.

00:32:51.920 It's only 100 yards away, pointed right at the stage.

00:32:55.100 Why don't we put a counter-sniper up there?

00:32:57.320 We also know that the Trump campaign and the Trump Secret Service asked for months for counter-sniperes.

00:33:03.720 The first time they finally get counter-sniperes is at Butler.

00:33:07.560 And thank God the counter-sniperes were there, because if they had not taken the shooter out as quickly as they did, it obviously was a lot of errors. 0.74

00:33:14.740 But they still took out the shooter very quickly.

00:33:17.100 Had they not, it gets off another 10 rounds. 0.96

00:33:19.400 He could well have hit and killed Trump with a second shot, or more Secret Service and more spectators.

00:33:26.400 So we're lucky they finally did. 0.56

00:33:28.260 But we'd like to know why they were turned down for six months, you know, where they sent to protect the First Lady instead of Trump.

00:33:35.860 There's a lot of questions that are unanswered, and we're still trying to get to the bottom of it.

00:33:40.300 But this is the fight we have all the time with the executive branch.

00:33:43.220 You know, I've been trying to get information about the COVID cover-up for three years.

00:33:47.240 It's non-classified, and they still fight me on that.

00:33:49.860 So you can see it's fighting tooth and nail.

00:33:52.960 And really, the only way you get people to give you information is the opposite of what they do.

00:33:57.200 You withhold money.

00:33:58.420 If you withhold their money and say, you know, we're going to withhold your salaries, all of a sudden the documents start showing up.

00:34:04.400 So have we dismissed the supposed coded, I don't even know what they were, apps that he had between two other, you know, dark kind of countries?

00:34:24.300 I guess he...

00:34:24.920 The first shooter?

00:34:26.260 The first shooter.

00:34:26.720 You know what I'm talking about?

00:34:27.660 Yeah, I do.

00:34:29.300 He had several encoded apps where he was communicating with someone.

00:34:33.460 No one's dismissed him.

00:34:34.440 I think they just don't have the ability to crack them is what they're apparently telling us.

00:34:38.060 I think that everything about both the first and the second shooter look like independent shooters, not that sophisticated.

00:34:46.440 And that's what makes it more troubling is that an unsophisticated shooter two times in a row was able to get to the point where he could have killed former President Trump and realize there are also credible threats now from Iran saying that they will do it. 0.61

00:35:01.360 And Iran's a much more sophisticated enemy. 0.98

00:35:03.460 I mean, if nothing else, the Iranians are pretty good with missiles and with drones and with technology. 1.00

00:35:09.020 And, you know, we have to have the appropriate defensive wear in place.

00:35:15.600 And, you know, we just barely got counter snipers for Trump.

00:35:18.760 But I've been pushing and pushing to make sure we have the sophisticated defense equipment that's necessary to stop a state actor from assassinating.

00:35:26.020 I mean, this is absolutely insanity that we, you know, the leader of the world is grappling with technology and, you know, we got to get better technology.

00:35:39.480 We have this.

00:35:40.160 This is I mean, we're becoming a third world country quickly.

00:35:43.160 It feels like we're becoming the end of the Soviet Union.

00:35:46.580 Yeah, and the thing is, is, you know, there is no excuse for what happened.

00:35:52.440 It really wasn't a lack of money, lack of resources.

00:35:55.940 This was just common sense.

00:35:57.360 No one's in charge.

00:35:58.640 But really, in the first shooting, it's pretty dramatic.

00:36:01.340 The guy's on the ground for 90 minutes.

00:36:03.440 And your local police are pretty good at having suspicion.

00:36:06.260 Even regular people are pretty good with suspicion.

00:36:08.880 So they have suspicious, you know, suspicion of this man for a young man for 90 minutes.

00:36:14.400 Nobody really does anything.

00:36:15.580 They kind of start looking for him, but they don't find him.

00:36:18.180 But really, he had a backpack big enough to fold an AR-15 into.

00:36:22.720 He's using a range finder, and he looks suspicious.

00:36:25.820 Wouldn't you think that that's enough to remove former President Trump from the stage?

00:36:29.840 Yes.

00:36:30.320 They never did it.

00:36:31.600 They finally announced it all globally, and Secret Service hears about it with 27 minutes to go.

00:36:37.480 So this is still probably 10 minutes before Trump takes the stage.

00:36:41.240 They have 27 minutes until the shooting.

00:36:43.260 They still don't take him from the stage.

00:36:45.580 But then they have a last chance.

00:36:47.780 At 6.06, the shots are at 6.11 in a couple seconds.

00:36:51.920 At 6.06, people are shouting, man on a roof, man on a roof.

00:36:56.580 At 6.08, the police are shouting, man on a roof, man on a roof.

00:37:00.360 They're running towards the building with guns drawn.

00:37:03.620 The counter-sniper sees him running.

00:37:05.640 He points his gun over there.

00:37:07.160 Everybody's looking there, and yet no one says, take Trump off the stage.

00:37:12.040 Man on a roof is enough to take the former president from the stage, and they don't do it.

00:37:17.540 Between 6.08 and 6.10, it is radioed.

00:37:21.260 To the main tent, the security tent for the Secret Service and the local police, they're in one tent.

00:37:26.980 They do hear the message.

00:37:28.880 Does any of them say, take Trump off the stage?

00:37:31.080 They start making phone calls to do something about the man on the roof, but nobody takes him off.

00:37:35.400 So it's like, this seems like 101 in security, and I'm not an expert in security.

00:37:40.200 I would think the first thing you do is take the president off the stage.

00:37:43.220 Yeah, this sounds like the Keystone Cops.

00:37:46.440 I mean, you're that convinced that this is all just human error that there's, I mean, because that is, that's a lot.

00:37:56.360 It's the Keystone Cops all the way through.

00:37:58.420 Yeah.

00:37:58.940 I just have no evidence otherwise.

00:38:00.700 I will tell you the one thing that will be hard to prove, and no one's really ever going to know, is they denied counter-snipers for six months.

00:38:07.960 They denied extra security protection that was being recommended by the Trump Secret Service and the Trump campaign.

00:38:14.780 That was denied for six months.

00:38:16.500 I'm not going to be able to get inside the head of the denials and write down that they did it because of bias,

00:38:21.540 but I can tell you from meeting people throughout government, Department of Justice, CIA, FBI, people who are supposed to be unbiased

00:38:30.260 are so deranged by their head of Trump that they do bizarre things.

00:38:33.920 I mean, look at the whole Peter Strzok thing and his, you know, mistress.

00:38:38.160 All of that was hatred of Donald Trump, and they still worked with the FBI.

00:38:42.020 And what did the Department of Justice do in the end?

00:38:43.700 They gave them a million-dollar payout.

00:38:45.860 They said we were unfair to poor Peter Strzok, who was trying to, you know, make sure there was no chance Trump could be elected.

00:38:52.100 Jeez.

00:38:53.620 It's insane.

00:38:54.780 Is anyone going to be helped?

00:38:56.880 Wait, wait, wait.

00:38:57.360 Before I get there, one more thing on the shooter from the golf course.

00:39:03.660 He didn't go to jail.

00:39:05.860 He should have been all over everybody's radar.

00:39:09.300 He had to have been over the CIA's radar. 0.97

00:39:15.700 Do you think that that was all just people being inept?

00:39:21.060 I don't know any more about that than what I've seen.

00:39:23.000 All I've seen is stuff on the press.

00:39:24.760 We haven't done any interviews on that, and we would have to have interviews with, you know, CIA.

00:39:29.940 They barely talk to us.

00:39:31.240 You know, they don't believe in any oversight of the CIA or the FBI.

00:39:34.740 If I request a conference with them, it's like pulling teeth.

00:39:38.020 If I beg someone on the Intelligence Committee, I can sometimes get a meeting with the CIA or the FBI.

00:39:43.500 They're beyond oversight.

00:39:45.160 People need to realize this.

00:39:46.860 Not only is there a deep state, the deep state is not responsive to your elected officials.

00:39:51.500 They just basically thumb their nose at us.

00:39:54.020 So how is that going to change?

00:39:56.340 The only way it changes and the way historically it worked is we had the power of the purse.

00:40:01.340 You have to have people with guts who run the appropriations committees.

00:40:06.540 There are some that are favorable, but many people on the appropriations committee are there to be a rubber stamp for more money.

00:40:12.440 So they're more used to, in a crisis like the Secret Service, let's give them more money, whereas historically what you did is you withheld their money until they gave you all the documents.

00:40:22.120 But nobody really uses it.

00:40:23.200 The power of the purse is not used at all.

00:40:26.900 They don't seem to have the courage.

00:40:30.020 I mean, we had an opportunity to get the SAFE Act passed.

00:40:33.560 Nobody had the courage to do that.

00:40:35.740 We're coming back in, I think, December.

00:40:39.680 Are we going to hold up?

00:40:40.980 We have under two minutes.

00:40:42.200 We have like 90 seconds.

00:40:43.260 Yeah, you know, the thing is, is with the COVID cover-up, I've been trying to get non-classified documents.

00:40:48.740 We voted unanimously to declassify everything.

00:40:51.460 That's not even the problem.

00:40:52.540 I can't get non-classified documents.

00:40:54.540 But I would get them within a week if the appropriators, the spending folks on Republican and Democrat side would, you know, hold their feet to the fire and say no more money, but they haven't done it.

00:41:04.760 I'm still hoping with a new presidency I get those documents.

00:41:07.980 But with this, with the Secret Service, I can tell you this and tell your listeners this.

00:41:12.280 I'm not giving up on it.

00:41:13.940 I will stay on this until someone is held responsible.

00:41:17.260 And to my mind, that means someone has to lose their position.

00:41:20.900 Yeah, maybe multiple people lose their position.

00:41:23.780 And I hope, and I've been so heartened by your work on the COVID stuff that you're just not going to let that go.

00:41:32.620 Because COVID, this was, I mean, this, millions of people died around the world.

00:41:40.220 This is, somebody has to pay for that.

00:41:42.680 Somebody has to be held accountable.

00:41:44.820 Rand, thank you so much.

00:41:46.160 Thank you.

00:41:46.780 Appreciate it.

00:41:47.360 Senator Rand Paul, the senator from Kentucky.

The Glenn Beck Program - September 26, 2024

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