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00:00:51.220If all you see on the Internet now is that Catholics were not allowed to go in and, you know, access the Church of the Holy Sepulchre in Jerusalem because, you know, Jews, I guess, hate people who are Christian, then you then you don't have all of the facts.
00:01:09.140and the story might resonate with you a bit, I guess, but what you may not know and is really
00:01:16.020important to know is that Israel closed all of the holy sites, not just the Christian holy sites.
00:01:23.840You know, and they're doing it because Iran is intentionally targeting the holy sites with
00:01:28.760their missiles, and Israel wants to protect them. That is their job, to protect all of the holy
00:01:35.400sites. You didn't hear about that online, did you? Did you hear about the Iranian missile fragment
00:01:40.580that nearly hit the Church of the Holy Sepulcher recently? Where were all of the public condemnations
00:01:46.380then? Did you see any major figures coming out to condemn Iran as quickly as they came out to ban
00:01:54.940and to spread this online like crazy about Israel? Closing major sites at times, you know, that,
00:02:04.400you know, Iran knows that there could be people to target and kill them is not unreasonable.
00:02:10.860And it's also not unprecedented in wartime. I mean, I hate to say how much, how much did those
00:02:16.080Londoners hate Christians when they closed the, you know, St. Paul's Cathedral in World War II?
00:02:23.520You know, by the way, how much did Catholics hate Catholics when they closed COVID,
00:02:28.300you know, close, close the Vatican for COVID? Did they hate Catholics? No. Are they anti-Christian?
00:02:33.760No, of course not. It's called safety. Israel is treating the Christian sites no differently
00:02:40.460than their own Jewish ones. Why do the Israelis hate Jews so much? Jews still cannot openly pray
00:02:47.640at the Western Wall, okay? Can't do it. Christians now can go into the Holy Sepulcher.
00:02:58.260It's a lose-lose for Israel. No matter what they do, it's always a lose-lose.
00:03:02.160If they let the cardinals in, they were targeted by Iran, it would be Israel's fault.
00:03:07.540If they don't let them in, it's still their fault.
00:03:09.460Either way, Israel is villainized, and they know that.
00:03:12.540But I will tell you, they protect all of the holy sites.
00:03:15.320And quite honestly, I don't think that the Iranians are targeting the Christian sites or the Jewish sites.
00:03:22.580I think they are targeting the mosque because they know that will wash the world in blood.
00:03:29.020and this is just another story used to outrage and divide us the pope said in his palm sunday
00:03:37.140message uh he was preaching against israel saying god doesn't listen to the prayers who wage war
00:03:42.860you know i'm really glad the pope's not infallible really glad because that's not true at all it's
00:03:47.940not true at all bible is full of prayers from warriors about war full of it full of it i don't
00:03:55.840know if you caught that one what really bothered me was that instead of focusing on cleaning up
00:04:01.780the messes quite honestly in our own churches i'll make that broad here's a guy using palm
00:04:08.380sunday to stoke division to point the finger and tell us who to hate now you know and still
00:04:13.940israel has promised to work with them to ensure that they can safely access the holy sites
00:04:18.360during a war but i don't know about you i'm tired of all the message and telling who to hate i'm
00:04:26.500going to show you something i've never showed these before this is a medallion i wear it every
00:04:34.580day this is a medallion uh from world war ii and it's a christian medallion and it's all of the
00:04:41.120Christian faith, most Protestant, okay? Christian medallion. This one is a Catholic medallion. It's
00:04:48.980Our Lady of Guadalupe. I grew up Catholic. This was a special meaning to my mother,
00:04:54.700et cetera, et cetera. I wear both of those. And this weekend, I attended a bar mitzvah.
00:05:00.560I don't hate anybody's religion. I don't know why we have to hate each other. I don't understand
00:05:06.820why our churches must divide each other. And don't get me wrong. It's not all churches. It's
00:05:12.780just some people doing some things at churches and everybody gets on board and they get up there,
00:05:18.240you know, stop it. Stop it. You know, I really think some point we're going to realize that
00:05:24.100Jesus is coming home. And when he comes and gets here, if we're all arguing amongst ourselves,
00:05:29.380do you remember what it was like when mom and dad got home and all the kids were arguing and
00:05:33.560bickering and dividing themselves. Remember what they used to say to us? I think daddy's going to
00:05:38.120say that to us too when he gets home. Stop your bickering. I don't care who started it. Stop it
00:05:45.500right now. All hands on deck. I'm tired of whose church I have to hate. I'm tired of what podcaster
00:05:52.440I have to hate today. You know, I'm tired of having to hate the Jews every day, no matter
00:05:57.600who's saying what. There is a dark spiritual effort to tear Christians and Jews apart,
00:06:04.120to tear Christians apart from other Christians, to take conservatives and terrorists apart.
00:06:11.540It's happening everywhere. Every coalition is splintering into smaller and smaller groups.
00:06:17.840And meanwhile, the enemies of Judeo-Christianity, they're all growing. Radical Islam watching this
00:06:23.600fight like a vulture waiting to swoop in and eat the remains after we kill each other.
00:06:30.980You don't have to be a victim through all of this. You can see through it.
00:06:34.320You can see through all the narratives that are designed to make you angry, to put you in a silo
00:06:38.880of lonely outrage where you're totally alone and useless. Once you feel like you're alone,
00:06:46.100you are open to some very dark alliances. Look what happened to the left. They were convinced that
00:06:53.140every little group was for themselves and suddenly we see the marxists and the islamists working
00:06:58.380together because they agreed on one thing people they hate if we're not careful that's exactly
00:07:04.820what's going to happen to us and if the whole conservative movement turns on itself who wins
00:07:08.980who wins if christianity turns on itself now when the lord needs all of us to prepare the way all of
00:07:16.620us. What do you think is going to happen? If we let Jews and Christians be split apart,
00:07:25.120then what alliance comes next to take its place? Don't let anybody manipulate you into anger.
00:07:31.740It may feel good to fight, but it might feel good to be right, but he who lives by the sword
00:07:38.760dies by the sword, and I'd prefer not to die that way. The hate we create,
00:07:43.580the hate we create for one another will consume us right after it's consumed our enemy
00:07:51.300i'm going to go to liz wheeler uh a catholic who i'm supposed to hate today i guess
00:07:58.360hi liz how are you hi glenn do you hate me i don't start with that i know i don't hate you
00:08:06.060i can't okay good liz i can't take this i mean i don't agree with what the pope said by any
00:08:11.840stretch and it it's kind of it's disappointing but what am i supposed to hate the catholics now
00:08:20.400no i i think two things are true i think the internet is addicted to drama and that the
00:08:27.120internet doesn't always reflect the reality of what normal people think and i think that's
00:08:33.600probably the case with what happened in jerusalem yesterday on palm sunday when um cardinal pizza
00:08:40.640Zabala, was denied access by Israeli police, and the internet went nuts about this, acting as if
00:08:46.380the state of Israel, the Jews in Israel, hate Christians. I see no evidence of that. I agree
00:08:52.300with what you said about security. Obviously, Israel has not only significant security concerns,
00:08:57.720they have a responsibility to keep these holy sites safe. I do think it's totally fine, and I
00:09:04.020was one of the ones that spoke up. I do think it's fine for people around the world. Christians of
00:09:08.520all denominations should all rally together to do this. Whenever there is an instance of religious
00:09:13.680persecution or infringement of the right of worship, we should speak up and make sure that
00:09:19.800that's justified, especially after what we suffered here in the United States during COVID. I wasn't
00:09:25.780allowed to go to mass because, you know, Gavin Newsom in California told me I wasn't. That's not
00:09:31.060just, that's a violation of my religious liberty. And we did not, in the name of safety, no less,
00:09:35.940by the way. And we did not, as a society, collectively ask whether we were balancing
00:09:41.820the safety risks with the fundamental God-given right to worship. So I think it's totally fine
00:09:48.600to ask why this happened, but it doesn't seem to me to be evidence of Israel being
00:09:54.020discriminatory towards Catholics. It seems more evidence of just sort of government incompetence.
00:09:59.560You know, I have to tell you, first of all, this should tell you everything.
00:10:03.180how many posts were there um for two weeks leading up to this for two weeks there was
00:10:11.820shrapnel that hit the church of the holy sepulcher okay um 9100 posts on it within eight hours there
00:10:20.360was over a quarter of a million posts about how the jews hated christians because they they kept
00:10:26.960him out of the church they kept cardinal uh pizzabala out of the the church of the holy
00:10:31.120sepulcher same church nobody cared about when it was when it was hit uh but but apparently somebody
00:10:38.980really cared about the other i mean it's not it's it's just not possible it's just not possible
00:10:45.760this is this is manufactured pure and simple it is manufactured and it is pushed by the left uh
00:10:54.220and by quite honestly probably iran and and their allies to get everybody to separate themselves and
00:11:00.480and hate each other i think those things can be true i mean there was obviously an element of
00:11:07.380manipulation or propaganda that was happening i mean you see that on x every day and like i said
00:11:12.100i think you can separate that from good faith christians being like hey we don't think this
00:11:15.700is right i think by the way that this all could have been avoided had um had cardinal pizabala
00:11:21.300and the israeli officials just communicated about this ahead of time israel would have been like oh
00:11:25.500sure you're not trying to have a large gathering you know this is incredibly important on palm
00:11:30.240sunday for you to go to the site where jesus's body was laid after he died on the cross i mean
00:11:35.440obviously that's going to resonate with people a little bit more deeply i have to say than
00:11:40.380shrapnel hitting the church on a random day there is something deep inside of us that is moved by
00:11:45.240that but they could have probably communicated about it just like they resolved it in about
00:11:49.200two minutes after all this outrage they probably should have communicated this and avoided it which
00:11:53.460is why i'm calling it an unforced error because there are people who are in our own country who
00:11:59.040are obviously very divided on Israel. You know, Israel good, Israel ally, Israel bad, Israel
00:12:04.280villain. And it's exhausting and a lot of it's fake. And they try to take any incident, if
00:12:12.540there's even a grain of truth, and the grain of truth in this is Israel and Pete Zavala should
00:12:16.480have worked this out and this could have been avoided. That's all true. They take anything
00:12:21.140with an element of truth and they try to turn it into this war between the Jews and the Christians.
00:12:25.380And that's the part that's a shame. It's not recognizing that this incident between the cardinal and the Israeli government shouldn't have happened.
00:12:34.460Right. And like you said, that is a very small group that went to lay palms.
00:12:41.280This is not this was not, you know, a huge procession or they're not filling it up for church or anything else.
00:12:47.980very small number of people um you know they closed the churches the cathedral of uh saint
00:12:55.780paul's in london during the war for the same reason under attack you don't want to be there
00:13:02.440get out they didn't close it the whole time they closed it and opened it closed it and opened it
00:13:07.460i mean that is reasonable to do when you're trying to protect people and buildings that's i mean
00:13:15.120you know who's gonna if that's blown up if that if the church of the holy
00:13:19.840sepulcher was blown up who do you think is going to get the blame
00:13:22.820iran that's that's why you said in your monologue it's a lose-lose situation for israel because
00:13:29.240yeah they're going to be blamed if they don't properly secure it but there is a matter of
00:13:32.940balancing i mean we we know there is that always during covid it was we were told that this was
00:13:38.060for safety and for security and all of our religious rights were violated and that was not
00:13:42.140The government had no authority to do that. They aren't the ones that get to extend to us a privilege of worshiping God and attending mass and, you know, receiving the Holy Eucharist and everything that goes into, you know, Catholic worship.
00:13:57.080And it is a balance between securing a population and not violating fundamental inherent God-given human rights.
00:14:02.680And yeah, they messed up a little bit and they rectified it. And people online don't want to see any kind of nuance whatsoever.
00:14:09.140if you don't mind going back to what the pope said i found that to be very interesting because
00:14:13.980as you know i am catholic i'm a practicing catholic i'm a very devout catholic and when
00:14:19.260the pope makes questionable comments which is how i would define his comment about god not listening
00:14:24.780you're being so charitable you're so that's like a very diplomatic word that i've workshopped all
00:14:29.900weekend please be happy yeah yeah when he makes questionable comments it actually makes me very
00:14:36.140grateful to be Catholic, as funny as that sounds. And the reason why is because the Pope, and this
00:14:41.500is sometimes hard, I think, for non-Catholics to understand because it is a little bit different
00:14:46.300in the Protestant world or the Catholic world, but the Pope himself has no authority to unilaterally
00:14:51.080change Catholic beliefs, Catholic dogma, just with his pastoral comments. The Pope has the ability
00:14:56.380to speak in two ways, pastorally and very rarely infallibly. It's called ex cathedra, but that
00:15:02.380requires a very certain set of circumstances. And it's not the Pope inventing any doctrine. It's
00:15:06.800him acknowledging a doctrine or acknowledging a doctrinal interpretation. And that infallibility
00:15:12.420almost never happened. That distinction, though, is very important over the weekend because his
00:15:17.060comments about the war were in his pastoral capacity. He wasn't speaking ex-cathedral. So
00:15:21.580Catholics, such as myself, are not required to agree with his political opinions. And don't get
00:15:26.900me wrong. I find it very annoying, for sure. I wish the Pope was a wiser leader on matters of
00:15:33.480politics. But it also makes me so grateful to be Catholic, because if he were the leader of
00:15:39.000a Protestant church, he could actually change the doctrine of what his faithful were to believe
00:15:43.500based on a faulty opinion. And that's not the case with Catholicism. So as much as I find it
00:15:50.100very annoying, it doesn't push me away from Catholicism. It draws me closer, because I'm
00:15:54.280very grateful to God for his church that remains as it always was and always will be despite
00:15:59.860turmoil in the world or the sins of man. You're listening to the best of the Glenn
00:16:04.540Beck podcast. Hear more of this interview and others with the full show podcast available
00:16:09.480wherever you get podcasts. So there's a couple of things I want to talk to you about here that
00:16:15.840are a little disturbing. There is a bill that is moving through now in Oklahoma that will legalize
00:16:22.900what was, until very recently, absolutely unthinkable, the conversion of human remains
00:16:32.420into fertilizer. So let's make sure we have this right. The body of your dead father, wife, husband,
00:16:42.500child, whatever, is going to be placed into a container with wood chips and straw where it's
00:16:49.020broken down and processed, and then used for compost.
00:20:29.860It's not, you know, it's not like one of those irritating CD cases where you were trying to get, you know, or God forbid you go into a CVS now.
00:20:38.020You try to buy a razor blade and you can't ever get it out of that stupid packaging.
00:23:19.160You know, once a society decides, oh, that's just material that we can process.
00:23:27.840Can we make, if one of my children dies, could I make them into a plastic sippy cup?
00:23:36.140No. Why is that offensive to you? Because it was a human life.
00:23:49.340Is there nothing sacred? You start blurring the lines between dignity and utility.
00:23:57.480You do it first in death, then eventually you do it in life.
00:24:00.840Every regime that has treated human beings as raw material, whether it was for labor or experimentation or disposal, began that same quiet shift into darkness.
00:24:14.880You know, a person becomes secondary, system becomes primary.
00:39:39.660of the of the no kings planning webinar hosted by Ezra and Leah and listen to what takes center
00:39:48.160stage for their preparations again this was not meant for you to hear okay this is them talking
00:39:54.720about you know the color revolution and they're not hiding anymore listen to this what's getting
00:39:59.980organic pickup that we can start to pull out and and capitalize on right and so thinking about
00:40:05.800things that uh we're seeing pop on the internet things that we're seeing start to like take off
00:40:10.960in places like reddit um the color yellow yellow and black have come up a lot which is obviously
00:40:16.100very like you know kind of people taking pieces of the no kings logo and running with it as a color
00:40:21.740scheme oh okay so we're coloring we're into color schemes now okay that's great now that brings us
00:40:30.720to the first name i want you to know in the first book in another planning webinar for no kings
00:40:35.900ezra and leah featured a q a with a harvard affiliated woman named erica chenoweth
00:40:42.040listen to what she had to say there's some interesting stuff happening there's a good list
00:40:48.620um that's easy to find if you went to like gene sharp's list of 198 non-violent methods is like
00:40:55.240They're just one of those low hanging, easy access resources. And there's under economic non-cooperation, there's like a really long list. And then there's other kinds. There's social and political non-cooperation as well.
00:41:10.020okay so i don't know what her pronouns are i'm just gonna i'm gonna assume it's revolutionary
00:41:17.400um so it was her study of color revolutions that found the 3.5 percent number she calls it the 3.5
00:41:26.580rule how a small minority can change the world okay you want to know what's what's happening
00:41:34.000this is just the setup okay this is this is what it's going to look like now all the way through
00:41:40.320the election she's got a book out um uh why civil resistance works her work looks like it was
00:41:49.540heavily influenced by another color revolution intellectual uh that i want you to listen to
00:41:55.560um in part of this q a with the indivisible co-founders where she mentions the resources
00:42:01.540people can look up to further the cause listen to this what's getting organic pickup that we can
00:42:08.900start to pull out and and capitalize on right and so thinking about things that uh we're seeing pop
00:42:15.440on the internet things that we're seeing start to like take off in places like reddit um the color
00:42:20.100yellow yellow and black have come up a lot which is obviously very like you know kind of people
00:42:24.900taking pieces of the no kings logo and running with it as a color scheme
00:42:29.180okay which takes me to a second name and i want to give you that second name here in just a second
00:42:36.060all of this can be found now at the torch you want you need to educate yourself on what is
00:42:40.580actually happening these are not organic by any stretch of the imagination they are not organic
00:42:45.900and their plan is a color revolution the toppling of the united states of america don't listen to
00:42:52.800anything else you can listen to the planners and the people who have put all of this together
00:42:58.840Don't listen to the people on the streets.