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00:01:37.100 i've been writing the numbers on this and and uh you can play with the percentages of vote and see

00:01:46.380 who's you know if trump has to do better than he did last time to win with the changes in demographics

00:01:53.000 if everything plays out the same same turnout for each uh group and each group has the same vote

00:01:59.880 share trump will lose the election so he has to do better than he did so let's let's let's roll some

00:02:06.040 numbers can we roll numbers and okay so let's roll some numbers let's say trump what did trump have

00:02:10.820 with uh african-americans last time yeah so here's yeah well african-americans he had nine uh eight

00:02:15.980 percent of the vote of african-americans let's bring that up to 15 of the vote okay i think that's

00:02:21.320 reasonable maybe not yeah i mean that's not candace owens says he's gonna get 30 i don't know about

00:02:27.700 that no but if he goes eight if he goes eight percent to 15 of the african-american vote he would

00:02:32.560 then win the election however as you point out still lose the popular vote by about three million

00:02:37.520 okay let's go hispanics up four percent think that's possible including the uh are we changing

00:02:45.100 african-americans back to their no no leave that okay uh okay so four percent so yeah do i think

00:02:50.760 it's possible yes i mean he's okay 28 in 2016 give him 30 so 30 okay uh white uh male or white uh

00:03:03.620 voters that are on or have no college education so it's broken up into white non-college graduates

00:03:09.220 and white college graduates so go very differently yeah go give uh give uh white no college what did

00:03:15.660 he have he had 69 of the vote last time 70 okay take him up to 70 here and uh the graduates what is

00:03:23.060 that one uh he won 46 of white college graduates 42 so he's going down yes okay there's more college

00:03:34.140 graduates that are a little older now okay and then anything else you want to change uh asian

00:03:39.120 others the other category we haven't moved at all no i don't i don't know okay so that would give

00:03:43.960 uh a result of joe biden 308 electoral votes donald trump 230 wow and leave his leave his numbers

00:03:53.460 alone trump's numbers alone on white college educated okay so we'll move him back to 62 there

00:03:59.300 whatever he had 46 excuse me yeah whatever he had last time just the same number okay that would be

00:04:05.280 donald trump 306 joe biden 232 that's how tight this is these things move by one and two percent and

00:04:12.240 they move the entire election um again in that scenario however donald trump loses the popular vote

00:04:18.260 again now they've already been coming after the electoral college for the past few years they will

00:04:23.220 of course ramp that up even higher if this happens to get him it's interesting to try to find a way

00:04:27.820 let's say we give 15 of the african-american vote that's up from eight we go uh from 68 to seven or

00:04:35.560 excuse me 28 to 30 percent of the hispanic vote um we'll keep all that the same and we go from let's

00:04:42.860 say 72 percent of white non-college graduates then we start getting into basically a tie in the popular

00:04:48.480 vote so is it possible for donald trump to go from 68 to 72 percent of white non-college graduates

00:04:53.840 very possible um and now that has him losing no uh white college graduates though and that's the

00:05:01.660 part where i think he's struggling the most you know it's you're talking it's you know you look at

00:05:06.420 this again it's suburban moms it's it's that type of uh group that seems to be uh the issue here for trump

00:05:14.020 um now you can also play with the turnout so if even if he stays around um let's say 70 percent a

00:05:22.840 little bit less but you start cranking that turn up up he you know instead of 50 i think the turnout

00:05:27.380 for white non-college graduates was 55 percent the the turnout for white college graduates was 72

00:05:34.220 so white college graduates turn out much much higher numbers than whites that do not did not

00:05:40.760 and i think that number is going to go higher uh turnout for white non-college graduates uh college

00:05:46.540 graduates higher than 72 yeah and i think it could go higher could go higher uh for non-college

00:05:54.840 so let's say let's let's crank those up a little a couple of points each how about uh black turnout

00:05:59.780 up or down up what do you think i think up yeah um hispanic uh turnout maybe down or flat because

00:06:13.140 because it was the wall last time yeah right um yeah okay that is uh so playing with that a little

00:06:20.540 bit we now have donald trump at 310 electoral votes joe biden 228 however once again biden still wins

00:06:29.420 the popular vote i mean it you know as long as he has a couple of states ahead in the electoral college

00:06:38.480 as long as he wins yeah you know two states or three if it's one we're screwed uh because they

00:06:45.300 will just dismantle it they'll find a way but if he can lose at least one state to their meddling

00:06:51.620 you know what i mean then i think you're okay you know look if you win 310 electoral votes there

00:06:58.700 might be an argument to change the electoral college that the left will make right we can expect that

00:07:03.040 there's not an argument that the election was fraudulent now the democrats as i pointed out

00:07:09.260 before in every election of my adult life that they have lost they have said it was a fraud and

00:07:14.360 it was stolen every single one of them so they will say that again in almost any circumstance right

00:07:20.980 i mean they're almost no matter what happens they're going to say it was stolen from them

00:07:24.500 but is it going to be credible with the american people now like there was you could argue that for

00:07:29.620 a good chunk of the american people the bush gore thing was credibly stolen now it's not true all the

00:07:35.920 media recounts show the opposite the george w bush won the election fair and square but remember the

00:07:42.160 days when you could trust the media at least that much where you could say after the recap they were

00:07:47.540 in the bag for uh al gore yep but eventually they came out and said no we've done all the recounts no

00:07:53.840 matter how we recount it george bush wins yeah unless you came up with some fraudulent standard some crazy

00:07:58.560 standard that anytime we you know any any it was a ridiculous thing they had to do to get to any

00:08:03.300 other conclusion the the the ones that were counted by the media that came back with the standards that

00:08:08.740 were accepted were all in the favor of bush and look bush won the election but there's probably 35 40

00:08:15.320 percent of america that sits back and says that was actually al gore's right um for that to happen i think

00:08:21.660 you have to have your right coming down to one state that's very close maybe two states that are very

00:08:27.060 close i mean if you look back at the clinton election with trump you know we they were in

00:08:32.300 if about 40 000 people changed their mind and switched their votes appropriately spaced over

00:08:37.660 four states uh the the election swings to clinton so that was a very close election when it comes down

00:08:45.040 to the number of votes that would have needed to be switched i mean that can give you maybe some

00:08:48.840 confidence uh that that uh it's very difficult to steal an election that was a stealable election it was

00:08:56.120 and i think they learned that i think that might if they could suppress i think their their goal is

00:09:01.740 they learned from remember they were meeting to figure out how to win this election or take this

00:09:07.240 election or shut him down um on inauguration day they all met on inauguration day and laid these things

00:09:15.380 out so they've been looking for ways to make sure that that never happens again and if it was stealable

00:09:22.960 then it will be stealable this time i think too part of the situation last time is they were very

00:09:27.580 confident right they thought they were going to win without the need to pull any shenanigans this time

00:09:33.180 is look this is the craziest election we're ever probably going to see uh so you say they're not

00:09:38.480 confident you say they're not confident i don't think i think they're terrified about what happened

00:09:43.680 last time right and i think they are i think that they are terrified but really really confident uh

00:09:53.340 in some regards because of how many tools they have on the table you know what i mean they have so many

00:09:59.920 ways to rig this switch this it just takes a little it takes just a few of those things to go a little

00:10:08.640 right none of them have to go entirely right just a few things going a little right and they can turn

00:10:14.860 the tables and i think they are i think they're arrogant i mean why would the democrats suddenly side

00:10:23.620 with violence in the streets uh with you know repealing your guns they're they're not they're they're not

00:10:31.680 moderating at all no they're going the opposite they're going the opposite joe biden is outwardly

00:10:36.420 running a more leftist campaign than he ran in the primary and there's only two reasons for that

00:10:40.940 you know something that we don't know and so you don't care anymore or you're so misguided that that's

00:10:47.380 who you think america is and yeah there's no indication of that's who america is i think that's

00:10:54.560 who the democrats are they are a far left you know group of crazy people and i think they believe

00:11:01.320 things like the the coronavirus plus the george floyd stuff plus all the stuff that's been

00:11:08.840 happening is allowing them to go further than they normally would in an election i think they see this

00:11:13.940 as an opportunity to push farther than they ever would i mean this is progressivism 101 right you take

00:11:19.160 what you can get and they think they can get more and look there's nothing signaling to them that

00:11:25.000 they're losing this race we can all sit here oh no i keep hearing so many people on the right

00:11:30.240 so confident that trump is going to win because he quote unquote won last time and the polls had

00:11:35.160 clinton favored well again set your set your expectations here a little bit the polls are

00:11:41.220 better for joe biden now than they were for hillary clinton and it is and in joe biden is not hated and

00:11:49.080 joke right and that was the secret weapon of hated that was the secret weapon of donald trump in 2016

00:11:54.320 yes everyone including the people voting for her hated hillary clinton they don't feel that way

00:11:59.680 against biden correct they think he's they're worried about him being um losing it a little bit

00:12:04.600 that's all true but they don't despise him right they also i've heard this from several people who

00:12:10.420 vote for or were going to vote for joe biden i just he's not a radical right he's not a radical

00:12:16.360 so he can surround himself with radicals but he'll he'll overpower they will think that they will think

00:12:22.940 that well he's going to be in charge and then you follow it up with does he seem in charge well i

00:12:28.920 don't know i mean he's not going to run if he's you know if he's if he's in dementia that's why

00:12:35.920 tonight is so important he has to be seen as placating the radicals he has to be seen as a

00:12:43.240 you know doddering old guy you know like you know like our all of our grandfathers get eventually

00:12:49.320 you know he's got to seem like that if he can pull off that he's not that he's strong he's alert

00:12:55.300 he's got it you know he makes the typical joe biden gaffes but he just holds it together this is

00:13:02.120 going to be a very good night for joe biden i will tell you if i were joe biden i would i would try

00:13:07.800 to approach this with the eye of having a moment you know the sister soldier moment everyone always

00:13:13.520 talks about from the bill clinton campaign a moment where you say i'm not gonna pack the court

00:13:19.140 yeah i'm not gonna i'm not we're not defunding the police none of this is on the table for me

00:13:23.820 i don't want any of it all this crazy i don't want to add states and and and all that stuff that that

00:13:30.460 you keep hearing suggested that donald trump keeps saying i'm doing i'm not doing any of that i don't

00:13:34.420 want any of that i love this country the way it is yeah if he has that sort of moment which i don't

00:13:39.180 know that he's capable of i think his whole party would would revolt all right make sure you're

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00:14:08.440 ted cruz senator from the great state of texas and author of a new book that comes out i think

00:14:17.780 today one vote away how a single supreme court seat can change history a great book where he explains

00:14:25.560 how it already has and uh and let you noodle on what it means for the future ted cruz how are you sir

00:14:33.140 glenn i'm doing terrific how are you doing today i'm good i'm good uh i want to

00:14:38.420 get to your book here in a second first any thoughts about the debate

00:14:42.280 well i i think the debate uh it ought to be interesting i think there'll be some fireworks

00:14:50.140 my assumption is biden will take a couple of shots at trump and i think trump will take several shots

00:14:56.700 at biden uh what i hope happens is that we see a real contrast of ideas and a contrast of visions

00:15:03.900 i i think we win if we contrast free enterprise with socialism i think we win if we contrast

00:15:11.080 the rule of law and the constitution and bill of rights with chaos and anarchy and riots in the street

00:15:18.360 i i think joe biden wants to make it just a personality contest on whether or not you happen

00:15:25.020 to like donald j trump they think they win that i don't know if they do or not but i know and i'm

00:15:30.440 confident we win if we focus on the competing visions and what's better for america so um

00:15:36.420 in a related question i'm worried about losing the presidency but i am terrified of losing the

00:15:42.660 presidency and the senate and there's a real chance of that

00:15:47.080 the the two are closely correlated uh if you look at the senate seats that republicans are defending

00:15:54.480 they're they're in purple states they're in states that are tough and most of the outcomes the

00:16:00.400 presidency and the senate go together we either win both uh or we lose both so there there's a couple

00:16:08.120 of very narrow slices where you win one or the other but in all likelihood it's it's it's all good

00:16:14.520 or all bad and and glenn if we wake up in in january of 2021 with joe biden chuck schumer and nancy

00:16:22.680 pelosi in charge god help us god help us they will do more damage in two years than obama did nate

00:16:30.000 uh i don't think we i i don't think we i think the fundamental transformation of america is done

00:16:36.020 at that point unless we have the supreme court holding to not the republican point of view i don't

00:16:43.600 want that i want somebody who's holding to the constitution will the if if uh amy coney barrett is

00:16:52.100 is uh pass through and and and wins her nomination uh is that enough on the supreme court

00:17:01.340 to be able to hold this country together well i think she is a strong nominee i think the decision

00:17:09.160 to nominate judge barrett may well be the single most important decision president trump has done in

00:17:14.880 office uh as you know i've got a brand new book came out today uh called one vote away uh how a

00:17:23.080 single supreme court seat can change history and and and the book uh before i was in the senate i was

00:17:29.280 a supreme court litigator uh what i did for a living is argued cases in front of the u.s supreme court

00:17:34.720 and and what the book does is each chapter talks about a different constitutional liberty

00:17:40.040 so there's a chapter on free speech there's a chapter on religious liberty there's a chapter

00:17:45.400 on the second amendment there's a chapter on u.s sovereignty there's a chapter on democracy and

00:17:50.660 elections and it talks about bush versus gore i was part of the legal team that represented george

00:17:55.920 w bush and and the case went all the way to the supreme court in a contested election we could easily

00:18:01.420 see that this november and and what the book does is it really tells inside war stories of of what's

00:18:08.780 going on at the court it takes you behind the curtain who the justices are what they're doing

00:18:13.860 and and many of the landmark cases in each of these areas uh i litigated and and and so i tell the the

00:18:21.140 behind the scenes who the parties were what was going on and and and i'll tell you it really is

00:18:26.900 striking on on issue after issue after issue so many of the landmark cases are five to four meaning

00:18:34.200 we're just one vote away one more leftist judge is the difference between losing our rights to free

00:18:40.720 speech religious liberty the second amendment versus preserving and keeping those rights well we have

00:18:46.240 john roberts who i think has been wrong on all of the big constitutional uh questions i don't even know

00:18:53.320 who he is anymore i mean he just seems like he's worried about pr or i i don't know what um but

00:19:00.100 do you go ahead it's painful and unfortunate and i've known john roberts 25 years uh john was a

00:19:08.080 former clerk to chief justice rehnquist uh as was i um and and i gotta say what has happened to john

00:19:15.160 in the last couple of years and particularly this term uh has been horrific he has become

00:19:21.180 sander day o'connor and and personally i think it's driven by antipathy for donald trump

00:19:28.180 uh it is difficult to imagine two people more antithetical more opposite than john roberts and

00:19:36.220 donald trump and and and there are a whole series of decisions this term where john roberts sided with

00:19:42.740 the left on the court in a way that was really inconsistent with the constitution inconsistent

00:19:47.380 with the laws and one of the things i try to do in this book one vote away that the last chapter

00:19:52.680 is all on supreme court nominees and how to get it right yeah and it traces the history of supreme

00:19:58.700 court nominations going back to dwight d eisenhower and if you look at it and you know this glenn

00:20:03.940 democrats are nearly a hundred percent virtually every democratic nominee votes exactly as the

00:20:11.800 democrats would want in almost every case republicans terrible at this what we don't even bat 500

00:20:18.400 and and and there's a clear pattern there's a difference between when we get it right when we

00:20:23.400 get it wrong if you look at those justices who stayed faithful to their oaths who stayed faithful

00:20:28.740 to the constitution antonin scalia clarence thomas sam alito uh chief justice william rehnquist my former

00:20:37.080 boss every one of them had a long proven record as a conservative they had stood up for the constitution

00:20:44.880 they were constitutionalists and this is the critical piece they had been excoriated by the press they had

00:20:50.860 been pounded by the press and they hadn't wavered that's what produces results that was what produces

00:20:57.200 consistency on the other hand when republicans have a stealth nominee someone that doesn't have a record

00:21:03.400 someone that hasn't been criticized a hundred percent of the time they turn out to be a disaster

00:21:08.460 all right so do does barrett have that long record

00:21:11.380 ted sorry does yeah does does does uh barrett have that record record the audio we lost the audio

00:21:20.500 with ted are you can you hear me ted uh okay you're you're coming back sorry sorry glenn the audio is

00:21:25.320 fading in and out okay i'm sorry i'm asking if amy coney barrett has that record that long record

00:21:30.400 you know i hope so uh her credentials are very very strong she was she was first in the class at

00:21:35.940 notre dame law school she clerked for justice scalia she's been a law professor at notre dame for

00:21:41.860 20 years she has been one of the most respected appellate judges in the country for the past three

00:21:47.740 years um she's also a mom of seven kids which which is amazing i can't even imagine doing that

00:21:54.520 much less doing that along with everything else she's done um and and so i i i hope she proves

00:22:01.600 a strong and consistent constitutionalist my preference is always for a longer proven record

00:22:07.880 but i think everything we know know about her uh is is strong and encouraging okay um you're in your

00:22:16.640 book you do break down uh gun rights chapter three of religious liberty school choice uh abortion free

00:22:25.380 speech crime law and order uh and then democracy and the electoral uh process all of those are about

00:22:34.320 to be lost all of those are about to be lost how go ahead go ahead every every one of them is hanging

00:22:44.040 in the balance let's let's start with with free speech uh one of the things i talk about in in the book

00:22:50.300 is is the case citizens united now a lot of people have heard of citizens united the democrats hate

00:22:56.160 that decision they attack it constantly most people don't actually know what citizens united concerned

00:23:01.360 citizens united was a a non-profit organization that made a movie critical of hillary clinton and the

00:23:09.600 obama administration wanted to find them for criticizing hillary clinton and the question there was can we

00:23:16.360 as as citizens criticize our politicians at the oral argument the obama justice department justice

00:23:24.280 sam alito asked the obama doj under your argument could the federal government ban books if it disagreed

00:23:32.020 with the book if it didn't want the book to criticize a politician could it ban books and the obama doj said

00:23:38.380 yes we could ban books now fortunately the supreme court rejected that radical proposition but the vote was

00:23:46.240 five to four there were four justices willing to take away our free speech rights to make it give the

00:23:53.360 government the power to make it illegal to make movies to make books to criticize our politicians

00:23:58.660 that is i think a profound threat uh to our liberties in the book that ted's just put out

00:24:06.020 one vote away he talks about the electoral process which ted if the president and there's a good shot he

00:24:13.240 wins again without the popular vote the the democrats are prepared with states just to say

00:24:21.360 we're delivering all of our votes for the um uh for the electoral college to the popular vote winner which is

00:24:28.980 not that's not the way it works can they do that and how do we hold on to the electoral college which i think

00:24:38.200 is the most important thing for the balance of our country well i'm deeply concerned that we're headed

00:24:45.980 for a period of chaos in in the weeks after election day um i think by any measure this could be a close

00:24:52.620 election and if it's close joe biden has already made explicit that if he doesn't win he intends to

00:24:58.540 challenge the legitimacy of the election uh bush versus gore as you mentioned there's an entire chapter

00:25:04.020 talking about bush versus gore the last time we had a significant contested presidential election

00:25:09.460 uh in the courts uh i was a young lawyer i was on the george w bush campaign at the time in fact

00:25:15.380 heidi and i met on that campaign we were at cubicles about 20 feet apart from each other on the campaign

00:25:21.560 um i was down in tallahassee the entire time of the recount recount it was chaos on election night

00:25:28.740 george w bush had won the votes were counted he won he was declared president and then the votes

00:25:34.480 were close enough that al gore challenged it and he filed a whole series of lawsuits all throughout

00:25:39.800 florida seeking to to reverse the outcome of the election and what he was seeking to do

00:25:44.720 was throw out votes that were for george w bush and try to find new votes that were for him and then

00:25:50.460 that's what anyone in a recount if you've lost your incentive is keep counting and counting and counting

00:25:55.460 till you can change the outcome well it was utter chaos i remember we had a war room with a white

00:26:02.340 board we had seven different cases all on the white board any one of which could could flip the

00:26:09.080 presidency of the united states that case went to the u.s supreme court twice the first time we won

00:26:16.200 unanimously nine zero the supreme court vacated the decision of the florida supreme court sent it back

00:26:22.060 said they got it wrong the second time it went up to the court we won seven two on the violation so

00:26:28.760 seven two the supreme court agreed what was happening in florida violated the equal protection clause of the

00:26:34.420 constitution but critically we it was five four on the remedy on the outcome where five four the court ruled

00:26:42.540 enough is enough we've counted the votes the votes have been counted four times george w bush has won

00:26:48.540 all four times under the law the election is over it's time to move on that decision we had 36 days

00:26:57.840 of uncertainty of chaos the country in the world didn't know who the next president was going to be

00:27:03.000 i think we could see it much much worse this year instead of just one state florida i think biden if he

00:27:10.380 loses could challenge in three four five states simultaneously uh we could see chaos you know there's this

00:27:17.300 group i'm sure you know about called the the transition integrity project oh yeah and it's a

00:27:22.120 group of biden supporters hard uh democrats and leftists but graybeards in the democratic party

00:27:29.240 and then also a bunch of republicans who are never trumpers who hate the president also so they're almost

00:27:33.740 all biden supporters and they ran through what they called war games about the election and they had

00:27:40.620 john podesta play joe biden now john podesta as you know was bill clinton's chief of staff

00:27:46.240 he was hillary clinton's campaign chairman so but that's podesta is a respected figure in the

00:27:51.620 democratic party he played joe biden in the scenario that they labeled clear trump victory so clear win

00:27:59.420 what podesta playing biden did was challenge the outcome of the election get democratic states to send

00:28:07.160 electors who who voted for biden even though the people in the states didn't vote for biden and and

00:28:14.260 actually in this scenario they had three states california oregon and washington try to secede

00:28:19.740 from the country it is we could be facing real chaos i and it's why we need a non-justice supreme court

00:28:26.960 i agree with you uh we in fact i have a special tonight going through those actual transcripts to

00:28:32.860 uh show the american people uh these are radicals that will not accept uh no for an answer ted cruz thank

00:28:40.320 you very much ted cruz uh his new book is out today uh it is one vote away how a single supreme court

00:28:48.340 seat can change history a lot of behind the scenes the best of the glenbeck program

00:28:55.200 you are of course a columnist for the new york post a national political reporter for

00:29:04.400 washington examiner co-author of the great revolt which uh talked about the first race in 2016 and

00:29:12.260 what the media missed uh what are you feeling today because i'm about to throw up i'm so nervous

00:29:18.620 well you know i totally get that i i also feel you know sort of you know like racy heart kind of

00:29:27.540 anxiety feeling right i think that's pretty normal especially if you are a political junkie like you

00:29:33.900 and i are but where the majority of americans are not as obsessed you would think they were based on

00:29:41.780 the constant coverage on on uh cable news and or uh on on social media that you know most people

00:29:51.180 though not live and die by american politics i i think that going into this evening uh the onus

00:30:00.100 is on joe biden to do a number of things to uh either win voters over earn someone's vote

00:30:09.600 or he's possibly going to lose votes uh not necessarily that will go to trump but people

00:30:19.760 will take a look at him and saying depends on what lane you're in they could look at him and say a

00:30:25.480 number of things first of all he's too far left or he's too moderate uh but the third problem and

00:30:31.860 i think this is the one people are sort of anticipating is that he's not on his game anymore

00:30:38.580 and that he uh has lost a step i don't think that gaps are his problem right i think that his problem

00:30:49.480 is saying things like he went to an historic black college which he did not those are not gaps those

00:30:56.180 are problems but also don't you think i think there's a lot of people that that i've talked to

00:31:02.520 at least that are voting for donald trump i mean uh for joe biden and they they say well he's not part

00:31:08.980 of the hard left so if he right if he looks like he's part of the hard left that's a problem but

00:31:13.700 but the other thing is they always say he's not part of the hard left and i mean he's just going

00:31:19.600 to get the job done and he'll keep those people at bay but if he doesn't look like if he has a moment

00:31:25.480 where he's confused or or any of us senior moments i think people are also tuning in to see

00:31:33.720 if he is going to be if he's if he's actually there do you hear that concern at all right yeah

00:31:41.780 absolutely i do hear that concern and i also hear the concern from uh people uh in to your point about

00:31:49.520 being either part of the far left he's going to lose moderate voters who don't particularly care

00:31:57.540 for donald trump's comportment but think that they have a safe choice with biden if he goes too far left

00:32:04.220 he's going to lose them that does not mean they go to trump that does mean they sit at home

00:32:09.500 he also could lose people on the far left i have a really like illustrated story about this in my

00:32:18.000 latest column at the examiner where there was this house that i passed almost every day just filled

00:32:25.300 with like bernie sanders paraphernalia there was a full you know a life-size sign of him there had to

00:32:33.220 be at least 30 signs in the uh in this yard now the only there's one tiny little sign in this yard

00:32:41.180 that says meteor 2020 so if biden you know those are the undetected voters right those are the ones

00:32:50.560 that you have to if you're a democrat and if their needs are not met that they're going to just sit it

00:32:59.220 out and essentially say hey you know what we told you guys we wanted someone left you gave us biden

00:33:06.340 he doesn't have our back he's not with us on our issues we're not showing up and y'all can just have

00:33:12.800 donald trump wow so if if he's asked tonight about the police which he should be asked about um he he has

00:33:23.240 not rail uh reigned in the violence until very recently and then he's even he's even come out

00:33:30.620 and said the only one that's talking about defunding the police is donald trump is that going to be

00:33:36.120 effective no you know there's this assumption that by the by the um political strategist and uh in in

00:33:47.480 in large part by my profession that they still think it's 20 years ago where people don't have

00:33:53.500 the access to look things up and find out if it's true um because we have such a large distrust in my

00:34:01.780 profession and quite frankly we have earned it uh people are not going to take what someone says

00:34:08.220 at face value as being the god's truth and so they're going to look up and say is he consistent

00:34:15.360 on this well no actually he's not and he's not he is but when he falls into that trap of being

00:34:23.160 considered a typical politician which by the way the base on both sides are vehemently against yeah

00:34:33.080 okay and if you start speaking like a traditional politician and he is one he spent 40 years in

00:34:40.160 washington if he starts throwing out big words and concepts and trying to sort of talk down not just

00:34:48.400 to trump but to voters he really has a problem in earning their uh support the um the article you

00:34:57.640 wrote forgotten counties will make their voices heard is i mean everybody should read this um you talk

00:35:03.280 about a county that was democrat forever notoriously democrat and these small counties little by little

00:35:12.020 have been moving towards uh the republicans and you talk about one where it was lopsided for the

00:35:18.360 democrats forever and now it's a republican the the um registration has gone off the charts for the

00:35:26.220 republicans there and you mentioned several counties in pennsylvania are like that is is that enough

00:35:32.600 i mean donald trump needs every single vote he can get uh in some of these states um just to just to

00:35:42.860 battle the the possibility of a rigged election are the numbers for trump do you think solid and bigger than

00:35:52.700 they were in 16 so what i think was in in 2016 i wrote in august of 2016 there's 10 counties to watch

00:36:02.140 that if just 2 000 or more voters showed up in these counties uh for trump over romney that trump would

00:36:08.040 win didn't matter what happened in philadelphia didn't matter if hillary clinton was able to replicate

00:36:14.200 obama numbers and or exceed them he would still win and i said by 40 000 votes it was actually 44 000 votes

00:36:23.720 those numbers those numbers need to increase uh i'm not increased they need to remain steady

00:36:31.320 plus they need to draw out one percent more voters to be able to offset the philadelphia numbers again

00:36:40.240 doesn't matter what the turnout is what matters is is if you get this one percent more also i'm really

00:36:47.940 keeping my eye on the top tier counties in pennsylvania that go from warren all the way over to

00:36:56.800 wackawana these are the counties that i call the energy counties and these are in in agriculture

00:37:03.640 counties these are counties where a lot of voters did not show up for trump even though they would

00:37:10.160 uh were republican but because they thought the way he talked was more like a liberal democrat from

00:37:17.760 the outer Bronx of new york right now he has a record and the record is something that they're very

00:37:24.000 very supportive of uh energy workers because of loosening of regulations but also uh agriculture

00:37:31.780 voters because of the trade deal they love that trade deal now you you draw out about 2 000 more

00:37:39.580 voters in those eight counties and again the same scenario exists also you have to continue to draw out

00:37:47.340 voters in those original 10 counties and almost all of them have switched their registration from

00:37:52.260 democrats to republicans in the past four years i will tell you that i know a lot of people like

00:37:57.300 me that there's a first election in 2016 first election i didn't vote for a republican or a democrat

00:38:03.780 uh i voted for an independent that's the first time i've ever done that and i know a lot of people

00:38:09.260 that did that or just didn't vote uh because they couldn't vote for hillary clinton and just

00:38:14.340 couldn't vote for donald trump he didn't have a record they didn't believe in him

00:38:18.180 now now they do and those people come out yes absolutely i had a story just about a week and

00:38:25.860 a half ago from cambernet county pennsylvania and i walked into the county republican office

00:38:30.980 these are one of those counties that that has changed their registration there was a gentleman

00:38:35.780 there who was in his 50s who'd been a democrat all of his life did not vote for donald trump in 2016

00:38:41.700 and switch was changing his party affiliation along with several dozen other people there was a line

00:38:48.740 outside the building uh and then he was voting for trump this time these are the people if y'all

00:38:55.380 read uh the great revolt in the back of the great revolt is a uh a poll that we did who were in with

00:39:03.140 self-identified trump voters in michigan wisconsin pennsylvania ohio and iowa and we asked them did you

00:39:09.540 tell a family member friend or a pollster that you were going to vote for trump 34 of them said no

00:39:16.420 and 2016 is like a disney movie compared to what we're experiencing right now

00:39:22.020 all right selena thank you so much we'll talk again um and by the way happy birthday

00:39:27.140 thank you glenn 20 again

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