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Glenn Beck presents a theory about the assassination of President John Fitzgerald Kennedy, and why the CIA may have been behind it. Glenn Beck is a conservative commentator and host of the conservative radio show "The Glenn Beck Show" on Fox News Radio. He is a frequent contributor to the New York Times, CNN, CBS, and other media outlets.
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Today's show you don't want to miss because it centers on the show that we ran last night on Blaze TV,
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an hour and a half special on the JFK archives and the files that came out.
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But that's not what they were afraid when they released this.
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You're listening to The Best of the Glenn Beck Program.
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I want to give you a theory, and this is just a theory.
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I don't know yet, but I am I don't trust our intelligence community at all.
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And when it comes to this signal story, I just want to throw something out.
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And this has really come clear to me as a theory that this whole signal thing is kind of a setup in a way.
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Let me take you back to what we found out through the JFK files.
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First of all, JFK fires Director Dulles, one of the founding members of the CIA.
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And he does it because there's a Schlesinger memo that comes out and says the CIA is out of control.
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It's laundering money through our NGOs, through government institutions.
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And then he goes after their primary source of global operations, which was an agency called the ICA, the International Cooperation Administration.
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You're going to destroy all of the things, the good things we're doing in the world.
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Well, the CIA is like, oh, OK, well, oh, boy, we're really upset.
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And then they infiltrate that and they do the same thing that the ICA was doing.
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They just start laundering money and doing ops that nobody knows about through USAID, just like they did before.
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We also know from the JFK files that the CIA infiltrated U.S. media outlets.
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They they shaped the opinions and leveraged journalists and their contacts.
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One of those included a contact tied directly to the then attorney general RFK.
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They were spying on many people, including Barry Goldwater and RFK.
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They infiltrated private private private businesses like the airline Pan Am's.
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They also were repeating almost just different names, almost exactly the same pattern, which leads to an assassination on the president of the United States.
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So I want you to put that in your frame of mind.
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It doesn't mean that what I'm about to suggest to you happened.
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I'm suggesting that maybe we should be very, very careful because we are dealing with one of the most dangerous agencies ever to grace the planet called the CIA and American intelligence.
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What does this have to do with the latest mistake with signal?
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I told you I've talked to several members of Congress and the Senate that have said they're spying on us.
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We've even been been threatened in, you know, behind closed doors by the intelligence agencies.
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So we know they're spying on our Congress and and they have been saying Congress of the intel community has been saying you've got to use these devices because we fear there are things going on with foreign countries.
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Well, the way you would handle that is not to send out signal and install signal from a private corporation and install it on everybody's computer in the administration.
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You wouldn't do that to everybody's computer in the House and the Senate.
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You would say you use this because this is our secured router.
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It was developed by an organization called Open Whisper Systems.
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They received millions of dollars in government funds.
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They received millions of dollars in government funds to create signal.
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The Open Technology Fund, a government organization that was created back in 2012 under the Obama administration.
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That's a message into China saying, hey, things aren't really like they're telling you.
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Why did the CIA, through Radio Free Asia, create signal, something that has nothing to do with broadcasting information into China?
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Have we heard about that in the last two weeks?
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Yes, the Trump administration just closed Radio Free Asia, Radio Free Europe, because they said they were direct weapons of the CIA during the Cold War, and then it is morphed into a direct weapon against us.
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OK, so the connection between the CIA and organizations like Radio Free Europe and Asia is well documented.
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And then they take funding through Radio Free Asia, and they develop something with government money that the CIA is involved in and create the signal messaging app.
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And then that same CIA, which we now know has been doing things to create revolutions, not only around the world, but inside the United States, and they are desperate to hold on to power.
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Also, another coincidence, WikiLeaks published Vault 7 that stated the CIA had tools that let them access signal and WhatsApp.
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You know, a major opposition journalist randomly got into the government cabinet level signal group chat.
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OK, and maybe the CIA no longer infiltrates the media anymore like they did in the 60s.
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And maybe they no longer infiltrate U.S. private companies anymore like they did in the 60s.
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And maybe they don't surveil presidential campaigns anymore like they did to Barry Goldwater or RFK or forget about this one.
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And it's also probably just a big coincidence that the intelligence community apparently thought so highly of the signal app that they immediately rushed to install it on every device when we're worried about leaks.
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And they did it for everyone in the government.
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You want to have any secret conversations that will disappear here?
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And maybe all of this is a coincidence that this story was released the day before the Senate Select Committee on Intelligence met for hearings.
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I mean, what a perfect storm of good luck for those who stand against freedom.
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I'm not sure it has anything at all to do that this story dominated the entire hearing or how it caused even conservatives to claim that the Trump administration has committed a huge mistake.
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And maybe it did, but there are too many smoking guns around this one to take it at face value.
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And I'm not really saying this to you as much as I'm saying this to the president of the United States and the administration.
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You must find out, did did did Walsh actually accidentally fat finger and put the Atlantic journalist on that?
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And it is important for the administration to not use the WhatsApp because that is a false sense of security.
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You may not be feeding our enemies overseas, but you may very well be feeding our enemies that are not foreign, but domestic.
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I think we should all be careful on what's happening here.
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He is a military and global affairs expert, and he is also the head writer of the Glenn Beck TV program.
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I think that the so to clarify some of the CIA connections through Signal, what's interesting is just like USA,
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they don't like publicly state, oh, the CIA is using USA to pull off soft power and regime change things all over the world.
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It's equally fuzzy as far as how much funding and direction they're giving organizations like Radio Free Asia, Radio Free Europe.
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Then when they changed it and they did a lot of manipulation around, we're not exactly sure how involved the CIA is.
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It doesn't matter as long as they have a back door.
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And what Mike Wall said on NBC the other day, I don't know this for sure, but what he said on NBC,
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and let me see if I can find this exact quote here, he said, a staffer wasn't responsible.
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You have somebody else's number on somebody else's contact.
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So, of course, I didn't see this guy in the group.
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Now, whether he did it, a staffer, deliberately, or it happened in some other technical mean is something we're trying to figure out.
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What he's saying is the CIA might have just gone in because they have full access and they could change things.
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They could make one number look like another person, and they could have added it, and nobody would have known.
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And there's no fingerprints because it's the CIA, and they have access into that app.
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Imagine it's not the government for just a second.
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Imagine if you work at a company, and the company who is known to use your emails and all that stuff against you,
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let's just say there's, I don't know, some kind of employment issue, and they pull up your email.
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If they said, you must put this app on all of your phones, would you be suspicious about that?
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Would you think that – and I say that because, personally, I've worked for a company in the past
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where they were like, you have to use a phone that has this protocol on it.
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No, you have to use this phone that has this protocol on it.
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Well, I asked one of our IT guys later – again, this is another company.
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I went back and he goes, oh, well, let me show you why.
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He took me back to the servers, and he pulled up a folder on every single person in the company that worked there.
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He clicked into it, and it gave him access to every single person's phone.
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This is very obvious, basic stuff if you know about IT and mobile stuff in general or how exchange services work.
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Now, in that context, does this make any sense?
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Does it make any sense that the government, the people that are supposed to be the most suspicious,
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the CIA, NSA, all those people, just blanket trust this phone application?
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Even if they did put it on your phone, why would you ever use it, right?
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I would be very suspicious of that arrangement.
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Why wouldn't you say, hey, DARPA, just create for us a private encrypted messaging system?
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Also, the policy to make sure that Signal is on all devices for government officials, that goes back to a CISA recommendation.
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Can you just remind people who the CISA is, Jason?
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Yeah, it's the cybersecurity arm that was put together under the Biden administration that we have found is absolutely nefarious.
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They were the ones that were spearheading a lot of the spying, a lot of the disinformation.
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They were the ones working directly with the big social apps to force them and say, hey, hey, hey, stop with this.
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Their fingerprints are all over almost everything that is bad.
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They are monitoring and and hoaxing the American people.
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Why would we why would we trust Signal if if they're the ones that said, oh, yeah, no, you can trust it.
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Yeah, you bring up a big point, cybersecurity and infrastructure security agency.
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They're the ones that were outed big time expose by Michael Schellenberger, who are right at the center of the censorship regime,
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going through social media posts and getting people banned during the Biden administration.
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It's clearly a government sponsored or government collusion or government hacked app.
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We welcome our executive producer, Stu Bergeer, and Shane Stevens, the grandson of Billy Solestas.
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It was interesting, and I don't mean that in a bad way.
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It was really interesting meeting you when we got together to listen to the tape.
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Your story of your grandfather, I still don't know if I fully understand it, but it is fascinating
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what you and your family have gone through, beginning with your grandfather.
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Can you begin to tell me first who your grandfather is or was and what happened to him?
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Yeah, so my grandfather was Billy Solestas, and the Estas family that goes back to, you
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know, 1800s, they were co-founders of the town of Clyde, Texas, and still have a farm out
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there to this day as part of their original homestead.
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And, you know, he grew up poor with a bunch of brothers and sisters in Clyde, and he was
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given, I think, a pig for his maybe eighth or ninth birthday.
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And then that turned into a whole flock of lambs by the time he was 12 or 13.
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And, you know, he basically just always had a business mind and wanted to be something.
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And he started, I think it was Roosevelt, perhaps, that he was sending letters to about the grain
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And so he helped auction that off and just he became one of the top 10 outstanding young
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men under the U.S. Chamber of Commerce by the time he was in his mid-20s.
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And then by the time 1960 or 62 rolled around, he was worth $400 million.
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So he built an empire out in West Texas and started, came from nothing and, you know, sadly
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ended up passing away with nothing because it was all taken away.
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And let's go into that before we go into the story of the tape and the assassination.
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So that was a trial to where in the early 60s, you had two big scandals going.
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One was the Billy Saul-Esta scandal and the other one was the Bobby Baker scandal, both
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And there were a lot of other folks involved in pay-to-play with LBJ here in Texas.
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But these were the two that the Kennedys and really, I think Bobby is AG and JFK were focused
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And so they sent somewhere between 50 and 60 FBI agents down to look into my granddad and
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And it really circled around a couple of things.
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And then the second one was grain storage contracts.
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And kind of tied in with that were these anahydrous ammonia storage tanks that was a big new deal
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Okay, so to not get into all the details, was your grandfather guilty of any kind of stuff
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Yes, he was as far as he had given LBJ a lot of money.
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And then they had back-end deals to where LBJ would get, say, 10% of a business.
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And so, you know, it's nothing that doesn't happen today.
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So the Kennedys were after really LBJ, not your grandfather, but the closest they could
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Yeah, they brought LBJ on, not because they wanted to, but because they knew that he could
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So that was part of their goal of getting into the White House.
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And once they got in, the corruption and kind of the evil of Lyndon was a huge concern to
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They were about to do a big publicity release on LBJ talking about the scandals he was involved
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in to start to destroy his character and force him out if he wouldn't willingly step out.
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And it's kind of amazing that you would say destroy his character, because as we know now,
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He was a huge racist who gets credit for, you know, the civil rights movement and everything
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He was not a civil rights leader in the least, and a big racist, and really a dirty guy.
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Yeah, in fact, there's stories that I really don't even want, we can't talk about here.
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But in person, I could share about MLK and some things that potentially happened there and
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But he was, he was about it for the votes and preserving the Democratic Party.
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And it was not based on his personal belief on the civil rights activity.
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However, my granddad was absolutely all about civil rights and helping there.
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Okay, so Shane, your grandfather is now taking the heat.
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Yeah, so it was around, I think, 71, 72, when he got out.
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And there's a very short timeline in which it could have been done.
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And he was talking with Cliff Carter or Clifton Carter.
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I'm talking back to the 40s when LBJ ran this, I think it was like Young Men's Youth Association
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Cliff Carter took over that organization when LBJ went on to run for office.
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And then once LBJ got in office, then Cliff Carter ended up coming to him after he served
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And then he was basically his bag man, which means he would go collect the money from people.
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He was his right-hand man on all aspects of getting things done.
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He was kind of his lieutenant, I guess you could say, on making things happen.
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And then he went on to run the DNC for a while in the 60s.
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And at the time of this tape in 71, 72, my granddad had gotten out of prison, let's say,
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Well, Cliff died perhaps in October or November of that year.
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What we'd always heard is Cliff Carter died three days after this tape was recorded.
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But after looking up these timelines of when my granddad got out of prison and when Cliff
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Carter passed away, I'm like, well, worst case scenario, it was within a couple few months.
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Well, as you go through, I mean, these guys are talking as simple and plain as day.
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And I remember the first time I heard it, it took my breath away.
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And I probably had some tears because it was just as blatant, frank, open, simple dialogue
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as if it had been discussed a thousand times before about how LBJ was involved and behind
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and a key central figure in the assassination of the president.
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And then they go on to say, well, could it have been handled any other way after all the
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embarrassment he had suffered from LBJ and what the Kennedys were trying to do?
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And I'm like, well, no, no, he couldn't have beat them.
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And there's no way he's going to get back on the ticket.
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So he, I guess, to accomplish his goals, he had to do what he had to do.
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And then, you know, they go through and talk about some other kind of interesting figures
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and characters within it that I've dug into and found some fascinating connections with
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So I talk about Malcolm Wallace and Mac Wallace, Mike Wallace, it can be, you know, multiple
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different names, but again, easy to look up him and his history of, let's say it was in
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the, you know, forties, fifties, something along those lines.
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LBJ's sister, Josefa, was dating at Doug Kinzer.
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And Doug Kinzer was a, I think he was a golf pro and at University of Texas or something
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And Mac Wallace had been a very high performing individual, I think at UT.
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But whatever reason, Mac Wallace went and I'd heard it was because Doug Kinzer was beaten
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up on Josefa or he had too much information about LBJ.
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I mean, just blatant, open, killed him in front of folks, got arrested and went to trial,
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And then LBJ immediately ensured that that sentence was adjudicated and he did not serve
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And after that, LBJ had Mac Wallace as his guy.
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You're listening to the best of the Glenn Beck Program.
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We're spending more time on the JFK files than the show that I did last night, just because
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I think it tells you everything you need to know about what's happening today.
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And you won't understand that until you really watch the show.
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But it is, I think this is a direct replay of what happened during the Kennedy times and
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possibly what happened during Nixon's tenure and what's happening right now to Donald Trump.
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And it is so important that you understand this because you will understand why people are
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protesting in the streets, why this non-grassroots or, as Nancy Pelosi would say, astroturf protests
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are coming up so quickly and so oddly with something like USAID.
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You'll figure that out as you watch this special last night.
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But at the end of the special, and it's only available on Blaze TV right now, is when I
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went out and fired an exact copy of, what's his name, Oswald's gun.
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We don't know of another one like it because it has the exact same modifications that Oswald
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made to his, and we shot the exact same bullets, the rounds.
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These were about $40 a piece because they were antique.
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We, I mean, we literally went and got the same bullets from the same batch to see what
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We made a few shots with that and then the gun, the firing pin went bad.
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So I had to switch guns, but it's the same kind of thing.
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And I think I had a harder shot than even, uh, Oswald did and you'll see what happened.
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But where we did this was up the side-by-side ranch.
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Um, this is in Oklahoma and it is an unbelievable shooting ranch.
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I mean, it's just, uh, I mean, I, I was up there and I said to Scott, the owner, I said,
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I, I think, I think, I think I'd like to live here.
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Uh, quite honestly, it is an unbelievable place.
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If you're into shooting or anything else, you, you should check this out.
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So before, before we talk to him, he began shooting at seven because his dad was a member
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Uh, and he was a great trap shooter and ductee of the California state trap hall of fame,
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He was also a professional coach and instructor.
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He was the first team captain for team USA in 1985.
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Now his son, uh, becomes a competitive shooter.
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This Scott, I'm introducing you to here in a second.
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He was a professional shooter for Beretta firearms for 28 years.
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And they are, I mean, it's almost like, uh, Annie Oakley where you throw a quarter up and
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Um, he's in the sporting clays hall of fame, won over 14 national championships.
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Uh, he is the current national record holder in the small gauge champion, eight world champions,
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uh, championships named to all 54 American teams in trap.
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He's also the only competitive clay target athlete in the history of American sporting
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clays, 25 years running to average over 90% consistently.
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The guy is really good, but what has he done with his life?
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First of all, you're, you're too good of a shot to have sat in that tractor pulling that
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vehicle that I was shooting at to recreate, uh, uh, the, uh, the Oswald shot.
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We were asking, can you want to get some more, a longer chain?
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Uh, and, uh, and you didn't, but thank you for pulling the, the tractor, uh, and pulling
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Well, Glenn, we got to give your audience a little context, right?
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I mean, you don't have me on because I'm a good shooter.
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You mainly have me on cause I'm the only one crazy enough to actually get in the tractor.
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Um, you know, I, you know, the reason I'm here really is because I do have a gun club
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about an hour from blaze or excuse me, a mile from blaze studios.
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And I'm the guy that you call when you have one of those harebrained ideas.
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I mean, if you remember a couple of years ago, remember you came with the gun chainsaw,
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So, you know, and then, you know, last week, my, my GM, who happens to be my best friend
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says, Hey, Glenn's guys called and they want to recreate the JFK deal.
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You know, Glenn, you're that friend that when people call, you're like, how much time and
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So, you know, Jason calls and we have three days to recreate the deal and come up with
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Glenn wants a moving target, you know, it has to, but you're left-handed and a right-handed
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So, you know, when Jason gets up there earlier, he says, well, how long is your chain?
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I said, well, I don't know when we could put some together.
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So I put the 20 foot, you know, a bat wing on the tractor and then a 20 foot chain.
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And he goes, I don't know that that's long enough.
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So we had another chain and with the angle, I couldn't hardly get it long enough.
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But I know, I mean, that last shot, I mean, if I were a bad shot, the last shot, I mean,
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Well, I just want you to know when you turn to the staff and you say, Hey, what do you
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When they pause, that's pretty much them saying to their boss, boss, this is a really
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Well, look, I want you to know, I want you to know, I am proud of you because, you know,
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And from the last time I saw you shoot a couple of years ago at the range, you have been doing
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your homework and I, I am sincerely impressed because, you know, Pete, this was, you know,
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those shots that we did, first of all, you did prove that the shot can be made.
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I mean, I, I didn't think it could be before you did it.
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And so I think, you know, we could, we proved that the shot could be made.
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I'm still not convinced that's how it went down, but that's my own, that's my own.
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But, but I do, but I, we did rule this out because I, I have heard my whole life that,
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It probably, no, I mean, very few people could make that shot.
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And I think the shot I made was more difficult.
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We had the wind against us and we also, it wasn't a paved street.
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The car was on that truck was bumping, going up and down all the time.
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And I, I don't consider myself a decent shooter on, uh, with rifles and scopes.
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Well, I will tell you, I, I am impressed because I'm, first of all, I'm in this tractor
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and I'm thinking, I'm not sure this is a good idea.
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You know, I shoot one handed off a bike and do all kinds of crazy stuff.
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You know, so if I'm a little nervous, that's pretty, that's pretty sketchy.
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And so you're up on this tower with six or eight people, you know, I have this truck that
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So you're the, and you know, then the radio and the, and Jason's like, well, the range
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And I'm looking at what seems to be down a barrel of a, you know, high-powered rifle with
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I'm really hoping again, Glenn's been practicing, but anyway, I'm pulling this truck at 11 miles
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Those balloons had to be bouncing probably 10 to 12 inches, you know, high and I'm thinking
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we are going to have to do this 10 times today, right?
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This is, and then I look back and I see the first balloon explode and I'm like, well, good
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You know, we can always go to B roll and then you hit the next balloon and then the truck
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is bouncing like crazy because there's a lag between the second shot and the third shot.
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And then I see the third, you know, balloon explode and I'm like, I am not believing this.
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It's, it's not an easy shot, but even more the way that we had to do it with the moving
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So I think we both can say if I could do that, Oswald, the only thing he had that I didn't
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have was the pressure of killing the president, all the nerves, but I'm also left-handed, right-handed
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Uh, you know, we had other things going on that I think balance things out.
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So I really believe he could have made the shot.
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Now tell what we found at the end that bothered you that you brought up.
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Well, I, what was interesting is, is the grouping in the front windshield.
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So the bullet went back, it went through the balloon, which represented, you know, the target
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and then went through the windshield or excuse me, the back glass.
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And then all three bullets lodged in a very small group in the front windshield.
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And so what first thing I thought was interesting is how offset it was.
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So that was, that was just interesting with the angle because we pretty much had the exact
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angles that, that it would have been in downtown Dallas that day.
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The other thing that I found interesting was that even though the truck was moving and
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there was a distance, we had, we had the balloons lined up in such a way to represent
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And what was interesting was that all of the bullets landed in the front windshield in a
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small enough group that really answered, asked more questions than we answered.
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Like, why was the guy in the, in the, in the, why was the driver not hit?
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Why was the passenger not hit more than one time?
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And so it really, the, the way it came out with us, the, the driver should have been killed.
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The driver absolutely should have been at least hit, but could have been killed.
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It was too high up because we weren't six stories up.
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And so it would have gone into his back instead of where we had, it would have been gone right
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Um, but I, I went through the Warren commission and it said that, you know, the first bullet
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It didn't even enter the car, just landed in the street.
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And the kid was, uh, hit by a piece of the curb, uh, that broke off and hit him.
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Um, and the, the, the, the headshot, uh, they say that, um, the headshot, the bullet completely
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So they've never found any pieces of that bullet.
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No, I, well, no, one, one of these days you should research the bill Cooper video.
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That's the one that makes more logical sense to me.
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Um, but you know, that's a whole nother conspiracy.
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But if you, if you, if you, if you watch that video, it does make more sense that he was
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And, you know, there was also poison in the bullet.
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That's why they had to change the brain out in Dallas.
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So, you know, that I kind of come up more in, in that deal, but the, but the real question
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when you start looking at the ballistics of it is when you shot that shot, the first shot
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being a miss, I don't really buy that because how does a guy make two shots in a head at
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twice the distance of the first shot. And the first shot is not done because that first shot,
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you have to admit that was probably the easiest shot, right?
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Oh, it was easy. Yeah. I was more concerned about the other one. It was at a steeper angle.
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I mean, it was difficult a hundred percent. And so if, if Oswald is good enough to hit
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the president one in the neck and one in the head, you're telling me that he's going to
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completely miss the car when in your scope, all you would see is car. It doesn't
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make any sense. No. Right. So it's, it's, it's kind of hard to believe that the first
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shot was a miss. I don't, I, you know, and then when we start looking at the angles and
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the ballistics of what we did, I, I have to ask more questions because it just doesn't
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make any sense. It, it, you don't have a miss and then you have two good shots like
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that. And then the angle of it, you know, how is the passenger hit, not the driver, you
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know, it's just, it's just a lot of questions there.
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So Scott, I, uh, I, I've only got less than a minute here. I just want to say, you know,
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and you might say, I, uh, I'm not sure that's a really good idea, but I I'd like to recreate
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the, uh, Butler shooting. Um, because that just seems like the easiest shot of all time compared
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to, uh, compared to, uh, Oswald, that seems simple. Really simple. Not only simple is
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it, is the Butler shooting. I would, I, yes, I would like to do that with you because I
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think we're going to find in Butler that we could take anybody off the street and they
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would make that shot 99 times out of a hundred. Yep. Okay. Scott, thank you so much. I appreciate
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it. Uh, he is the, uh, owner of Elm Fork shooting sports, uh, and also side-by-side
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ranch, founder and co-owner. And I, I just can't thank you enough. Scott, we'll, we'll
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talk to you again. Claudia was leaving for her pickleball tournament. I've been visualizing
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my match all week. She was so focused on visualizing that she didn't see the column
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the largest network of auto service centers in the country. Everything was taken care of
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under one roof and she was on her way in a rental car in no time. I made it to my
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tournament and lost in the first round, but you got there on time. Intact insurance,
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