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00:00:00.000 All right. This is a great podcast for you today. We have Vicki Palladino on from New York. She's

00:00:06.040 a city councilwoman in New York City. It's nuts in New York City. She's a straight talker. Also,

00:00:14.020 Cheryl Atkinson on what's happening behind the scenes at CBS and 60 Minutes, some real insight

00:00:19.820 there. And the third temptation. There is something that is coming out of the former

00:00:27.260 Soviet Union that is infecting our churches and our podcasters on the right, and you need to

00:00:33.580 recognize it. But the good news is you've already seen this movie before, and you've already

00:00:38.260 recognized it and seen it for what it is. It's changed faces and approach, but it is the same

00:00:44.780 sin underneath. It's the third temptation. We begin there on today's podcast.

00:00:57.260 you're listening to the best of the glenbeck program

00:01:08.800 okay yesterday i started telling you about this trip there's a story at glenbeck.com

00:01:17.060 it is a must read i don't tell you that very often that these are things that you must read

00:01:23.240 this is one. You must be aware of this. This is the line that will decide, I believe,

00:01:31.280 one of the crucial lines will decide whether you're on the right side or the wrong side.

00:01:35.460 Even the very elect are going to be misled, okay? And it's going to get harder and harder to see

00:01:41.820 the truth. So let me recap. Yesterday, I told you one of the most followed conservative voices in

00:01:47.980 America, Candace Owens, announced a quiet family vacation in Russia. She was going to go see the

00:01:52.620 cathedrals she was saying it's a little faith tourism with her husband nothing wrong with that

00:01:56.720 and a handful of researchers did something that i said yesterday was almost embarrassingly simple

00:02:01.940 they just read the program um a program uh she was listed in uh as a speaker at the kremlin's

00:02:12.260 flagship forum um you know one of vladimir putin's headlines a few names uh down from vladimir putin

00:02:21.420 is the Russian philosopher Alexander Dugan.

00:02:25.660 Now, on that same roster is Candace Owens,

00:02:28.900 and she said she was going to meet Alexander Dugan

00:02:31.100 and maybe talk to him, yada, yada.

00:02:33.040 This is really bad, really bad.

00:02:35.520 The thread the researchers pulled didn't lead to her, however.

00:02:38.500 It led back to him, the man they call Putin's brain,

00:02:41.440 who wrote back in 1997,

00:02:43.600 the way to break America was to feed divisions

00:02:46.640 and flatter its urge to retreat from the world.

00:02:51.420 Then he also casts Russia as the holy restrainer

00:02:55.060 in a final war against the satanic West.

00:02:59.740 And that satanic West and the Jewish antichrist

00:03:04.040 that will come from apparently America or siding with us

00:03:07.060 is going to be fought by Russia,

00:03:10.520 the right Christians that have teamed up with Islam.

00:03:15.500 And I told you how this idea written in Moscow

00:03:19.440 can end up in your earbuds in Ohio

00:03:21.500 listening to a podcast

00:03:22.500 and it's called narrative laundering.

00:03:24.500 You strip the fingerprints off the message

00:03:26.620 and you slip it in the mouth

00:03:28.600 of somebody you already trust

00:03:29.960 so it doesn't sound like it's foreign.

00:03:31.680 It sounds like home and voila, okay?

00:03:34.660 The payload was a single engineered question.

00:03:37.840 Does your faith come first or your country?

00:03:41.140 Which I told you yesterday is a false choice

00:03:44.340 built to set the two great loves

00:03:48.360 of a Christian patriot at war with each other.

00:03:51.860 And the most uncomfortable part was where it gets in.

00:03:57.140 Not through an enemy in a foreign uniform,

00:04:00.200 but through allies waving our own flag

00:04:02.280 and quoting our own scriptures.

00:04:03.920 It was built to fool people exactly like you and me.

00:04:08.660 Luckily, I have been watching this guy,

00:04:11.520 Alexander Dugan, for years.

00:04:13.600 I've been warning you for years.

00:04:15.340 he is about to set he is i shouldn't say about he is on center stage now in much of the right

00:04:23.040 and in christendom so i want to show you today i want to take it from a different angle i want to

00:04:29.600 show you the same thing but from a different angle because people in this audience already

00:04:35.040 diagnosed this disease once before you just didn't know you were being trained to recognize it so

00:04:41.240 let me help you recognize what you're facing by showing you what you've already recognized

00:04:46.080 do you remember when uh we started talking about barack obama in 2007 and 8 and we found jeremiah

00:04:52.600 right and we heard crazy things coming from the pulpit with jeremiah right we did our homework

00:04:58.600 what is that that's liberation theology okay it swept through the church in the last century but

00:05:04.980 you, hopefully, were not fooled. You saw it for what it was, Marxism in a cassock. The cross

00:05:13.260 traded for the hammer and sickle. Salvation redefined as revolution. Remember, it takes the

00:05:20.080 gospel from a personal salvation goal to a collective salvation goal. God doesn't save us

00:05:29.700 collectively he saves us individually and when you get this when you get liberation theology the

00:05:36.900 kingdom of god collapses into a five-year plan and the gospel is reduced to a means and a political

00:05:42.760 ends okay you knew that a faith bent into a weapon for the class struggle uh struggle had

00:05:51.440 to it had already stopped being faith and it had to be stopped because it's not faith

00:05:57.280 Even the Vatican said so.

00:05:59.920 Cardinal Ratzeninger himself warned that you can't borrow, you know,

00:06:05.460 categories of marks and still be preaching Christ.

00:06:09.040 You can't.

00:06:10.220 So you are right.

00:06:11.700 You got liberation theology.

00:06:13.860 Hold on to that clarity for one more minute because you're going to need it.

00:06:17.180 Because the same offer has just come back around.

00:06:20.480 Now, new and improved.

00:06:22.280 And this time it's not coming from the left.

00:06:24.540 it's coming from the right and it's coming for you and it's not arriving with a red star

00:06:31.160 it arrives under a golden dome it doesn't say seize the means of production it says

00:06:38.120 restore the christian civilization it doesn't quote marks it quotes our church fathers

00:06:44.420 and it is aimed with great precision at the one group who would never fall for the left-wing

00:06:52.440 version at the faithful, the traditional, the patriotic Christian who has spent his whole life

00:06:59.120 resisting exactly this kind of maneuver from the other direction. So here's what you have to see

00:07:06.640 because you of all people are equipped to see it. It's exactly the same heresy. Liberation theology

00:07:14.800 politicized the faith and dragged it left. This new thing politicizes the faith and drags it to

00:07:20.460 the right, but the sin underneath is identical. Taking the kingdom that is not of this world

00:07:28.920 and nailing it to a kingdom that is of this world. Remember, this new philosophy is you got to get in

00:07:37.440 with the Russians. You got to get in with a Christian prince because only this kingdom of

00:07:44.440 the world will save the next kingdom. You know that's garbage. And the moment you turn the

00:07:51.140 internal into a tool of the temporal, you've handed someone else the handle. And in this case,

00:07:58.940 the someone holding that handle sits in Moscow. The liberation theologians thought they were

00:08:05.880 using Marxism. Marxism was using them. And I'm telling you that the man selling the czar to the

00:08:11.380 rescue of christendom are running exactly the same play and the faithful are meant to be the

00:08:16.880 instrument not the author let me tell you something that cynics will never say to you

00:08:25.040 i respect you too much to flatter or to lie to you and here's what everyone who will stand against

00:08:34.020 this will not say, and it must be said. This new theology that is coming out, extraordinarily

00:08:43.780 dangerous, is going to capture a lot of people, including people like you and me, because it's

00:08:52.180 grievance. It starts on grievance. They're not wrong about the culture. There is something in

00:08:59.240 our culture, our entertainment, our schools, our screens, our institutions, that has set itself

00:09:05.320 against Christ, not always in name, sometimes in name, but always in spirit, in its teachings,

00:09:11.740 in its trappings. And the ache that you feel that you are looking at anti-Christ stuff coming from

00:09:20.900 our culture, that's not paranoia. And it's not nostalgia. It's like, oh, I remember Leave it

00:09:26.520 a beaver they would have never done no no this is this is discernment screaming at you and the

00:09:31.800 disease is real which is exactly why the counterfeit is so dangerous remember the author of

00:09:40.640 all lies he doesn't make things out of whole cloth a lie that works is never built on a false

00:09:47.320 diagnosis. It's built on a true diagnosis, welded to a cure that is poison.

00:09:58.440 You will see, and I've got a monologue on this maybe next week. I just, I'm running out of time

00:10:03.840 this week, but I was thinking about this yesterday and I started doing some research on all of the

00:10:09.560 people that have diagnosed the sickness but it was the medicine that was poison okay

00:10:16.200 liberation theology was right the poor were crushed this movement is right the culture is evil

00:10:25.180 but a correct diagnosis is the bait as it always is so let me name the cure for what it what it is

00:10:34.060 in the oldest terms we have.

00:10:37.120 Okay, so somebody has diagnosed the problem, right?

00:10:39.980 Now they're giving you a solution.

00:10:42.720 Let me name the cure for what it is.

00:10:45.300 There is a moment in the wilderness

00:10:47.120 when Satan takes Christ up to a high place

00:10:51.240 and shows him all the kingdoms in the world

00:10:53.460 and all their glory, and he makes him an offer.

00:10:56.300 All of this I'll give to you, the power, the victory,

00:10:59.080 the restored dominion, just bow down to me.

00:11:04.060 that is the offer on the table right now

00:11:10.160 to all of Christian civilization.

00:11:12.660 It will all be handed back to you.

00:11:15.960 Your enemies routed, your culture war won,

00:11:18.780 not in a generation of patient labor,

00:11:21.540 but in a stroke, all of it.

00:11:23.800 You just bow to me.

00:11:26.120 You just bow to the strongman.

00:11:28.440 You just bow to Mother Russia.

00:11:30.960 You bow to the Christian empire.

00:11:33.260 Trade your birthright of ordered liberty for a guarantee of victory.

00:11:39.840 Christ was shown that exact deal, and he refused it.

00:11:45.760 Not because the kingdoms weren't real, but because the price was everything that mattered.

00:11:51.920 You shall worship the Lord your God, and him only shall you serve.

00:11:58.140 not the czar not the empire not the man who promises to do the fighting for you i don't

00:12:04.380 care if it's putin or trump we do not need a christian prince we need christians that

00:12:10.960 understand what it means to be a christian and the power of christ alone and the power of living

00:12:17.560 your life the right way and living your life more like him and serving him understand what

00:12:24.500 the rescue actually does. It's not saving anything. The rescue from Christ does. A church

00:12:34.920 taken into the arms of the state is not a rescued church. It's a captured one. Look east and you'll

00:12:42.860 see the autopsy. A faith made into a department of government. It's shepherds reading the regime's

00:12:50.080 grip, the gospel reduced to a flag. That is not Christianity protected. That is Christianity

00:12:55.680 stuffed and mounted on your wall. A faith that you are forced to profess is not a faith at all.

00:13:02.140 And a kingdom handed to you by Caesar was never the kingdom of God. Render unto Caesar what is

00:13:08.560 Caesar's. Render unto God what is God. The whole con depends on you forgetting where that line

00:13:17.080 is drawn. It depends on you being so overwhelmed by the evil in this culture, the culture that

00:13:24.140 has turned against Christ, and it has, and us being afraid, us not recognizing the power of

00:13:31.260 our own Christianity, the power of our own Christ and Savior, that we'll look to a man to fight it,

00:13:38.180 A man who does not believe in individual rights.

00:13:45.540 Everything, everything in the gospel is about the individual.

00:13:50.000 Everything, nothing is about the collective.

00:13:52.920 This is all about the collective and not the individual.

00:13:58.100 So how do we fight?

00:14:00.560 Well, we fight the American way.

00:14:03.620 Because the people who founded this country already handed us the best weapon.

00:14:07.680 they forged it for exactly this hour our founders were not naive about virtue they knew a free

00:14:15.500 republic can't run on machinery and we let the machinery run john adams said it our constitution

00:14:22.320 was made only for a moral and religious people holy and adequate government uh for uh for any

00:14:27.900 other washington in his farewell said religion and morality the indispensable supports for

00:14:33.160 political prosperity. They both agreed with your diagnosis two centuries ago. A free people must

00:14:42.800 be a good people or they won't be free. But then they did the thing the czars and the commissars

00:14:49.200 would never understand. They secured the faith by refusing to let the government own it.

00:14:56.440 no established church free exercise for every conscience religion in america grew strong

00:15:04.720 precisely because it stayed free de tocqueville came looking for a secret and found it he said

00:15:12.060 it was in our churches europe was withering under the protection of the state while free churches

00:15:17.460 in america were on fire state religion is a hothouse that kills the plant liberty is the

00:15:24.820 open field where it grows wild and deep. It'll never come from the government. Heck, it barely

00:15:30.700 comes from our churches. It comes from the individuals reading their scriptures and

00:15:35.640 personally connecting to Christ. The Russian model is the old European error with a volume

00:15:43.660 turned all the way up to scream, marry the altar to the throne. Watch the throne devour the altar.

00:15:51.400 America, we tried something braver

00:15:54.580 We bet that faith held by free men

00:15:56.740 By persuasion and conviction

00:15:58.500 Not by decree

00:15:59.460 Would outlast any empire

00:16:01.140 And we've done it for 250 years

00:16:04.260 That bet is paid

00:16:05.380 Now we just need to replenish

00:16:08.660 We just need to renew it

00:16:10.680 We just need to go back

00:16:13.440 To God

00:16:15.740 We need to humble ourselves as individuals

00:16:21.380 that's the road not a kingdom handed down from above but a renewal built from below free churches

00:16:30.100 strong families schools that actually shape persuasion instead of coercion the slow unglamorous

00:16:37.400 deeply american work of governing ourselves starting with the hardest government at all

00:16:43.180 the government of our own appetites you want to push back on the culture gone anti-christ you

00:16:49.480 don't need a czar. You need a revival. And no government on earth will ever command a revival.

00:16:57.720 No commissar investments can ever fake one. This road is harder than the other road,

00:17:05.280 but it is the right road. Your soul has a very dear price tag on it. Do not sell it.

00:17:16.200 But do not sell it for cheap tricks and trinkets.

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00:19:25.400 Okay, Cheryl Atkinson, one of the best, if not the best investigative reporter I know.

00:19:32.040 She is the host of Full Measure.

00:19:33.880 She used to be on 60 Minutes.

00:19:35.740 She worked at CBS.

00:19:37.420 She has had an amazing story of the government spying on her, her own network coming after her, and surviving all of that.

00:19:51.920 And not just surviving, thriving with that.

00:19:54.140 Cheryl, welcome to the program.

00:19:56.340 Welcome.

00:19:57.300 May I amend one thing you said?

00:19:59.300 I, believe it or not, never worked on 60 Minutes in all those years and all that investigative reporting.

00:20:08.080 I thought you did.

00:20:09.500 I'm sorry.

00:20:10.180 I stand corrected.

00:20:11.340 I thought you did.

00:20:12.060 It's a very segmented organization, and there was somebody at some level that did not want me contributing to 60 Minutes.

00:20:22.300 When there were 60 Minutes, too, before the Dan Rather scandal, Deep Six, that show, I was working on two pieces for that program, and then it got canceled.

00:20:32.460 And then, yeah, never worked on 60 Minutes.

00:20:36.640 Well, I want to talk to you about 60 Minutes and Barry Weiss and what is happening because Barry is trying to change the culture in CBS.

00:20:45.340 I think she's doing a great job.

00:20:46.640 for the first time ever, or at least in a very long time, I actually will look at stories from

00:20:53.600 CBS News and I'll give it a, I'll at least give it a read where before it was just like, I don't,

00:20:59.100 I don't believe anything they say. And I don't agree with everything, but I don't expect to

00:21:03.360 agree with everything that a journalist is going to write. I just would like fair, you know,

00:21:08.360 reporting. So she, um, the, the story is she just appointed a new producer for 60 minutes

00:21:15.200 and Scott Pelley, who, you know, one of the lead guys there, um, he said, you know, this guy's

00:21:22.980 going to kill 60 minutes, blah, blah, blah. There's a big showdown, you know, I guess in the

00:21:27.900 newsroom and he's fired. And now Pelley is upset and making a big deal. The left is upset about

00:21:35.280 all of this i mean uh ben rhodes came out and he was like i can't believe this is just this is

00:21:41.080 incredible ben talk to your brother your brother took pelly off of uh the anchor job because

00:21:47.560 apparently i mean i don't know this but at least david rhodes had real issues with pelly as well

00:21:54.040 do you have any insight on any of this i do i mean scott pelly was not a popular anchor in terms of

00:22:02.380 his skill as an anchor, as well as his personality. And I can't explain why he persisted in the chair

00:22:09.440 for some years anyway, because gosh, quite a while before they removed him, I was told by a level

00:22:16.640 above David Rose that they were trying to fix what they call the Scott Pelley problem. And I

00:22:23.460 don't know what keeps somebody in place when they think there's an issue. But one of the issues they

00:22:28.200 had with him was as it was told to me he takes his managing editor role too seriously he was

00:22:34.800 interfering with the correspondent stories in a way that was not productive and the veterans were

00:22:41.040 complaining and long time cbs names that you would recognize were complaining to the high executives

00:22:47.400 about this my experience was when when they named him i was told by higher ups this new show without

00:22:53.800 Katie Couric with Scott Pelley is going to be all about what you do, your investigative reporting,

00:22:58.660 even more so. I was already having a great career there, but they said now with Scott Pelley there,

00:23:04.000 boy, this show is going to be all about what you do. And the very first week, the very first

00:23:09.880 investigative piece, one of the best ones I think I ever did that I offered them, he censored,

00:23:14.820 never aired. And that was the pattern and the story for me, at least, of Scott Pelley at the

00:23:20.440 anchor desk. Was that the Boeing story, the Dreamliner story? No, Boeing was one of it.

00:23:26.580 That came later. The first one was a story, an expose I did on the travel group called People

00:23:33.340 to People that, as it turns out, was luring high school students into, it was nothing more than a

00:23:39.480 travel agency under the auspices of a nonprofit using the Dwight Eisenhower name and his daughter

00:23:46.160 or granddaughter's, you know, reputation to convince children in high school that they

00:23:52.740 had been chosen to be ambassadors on these amazing global trips when, in fact, they were

00:23:58.660 just using lists.

00:24:01.380 These kids weren't honored or nominated by their teachers, as they claimed, and they

00:24:05.380 were getting kids to go on these trips, and the kids were getting injured.

00:24:09.600 Some of them were getting killed.

00:24:12.120 It was all a big bait.

00:24:13.500 Why was that?

00:24:14.140 Why did he?

00:24:14.620 Did he say why he canceled that or kick that to the curb?

00:24:20.160 One of my producers, listen, I even found a member of Congress had sent letters out under,

00:24:29.100 or there were names out under her name, advocating for this group, telling students you should go.

00:24:35.200 And I learned and exposed that they had forged her name.

00:24:38.220 And I even got her on camera saying so, which she didn't originally want to do.

00:24:41.920 It was a great story.

00:24:42.860 it was never explained to me we call it my producer and i at the time the death by a thousand cuts he

00:24:48.640 would he would want to change this or want to change that well let's not mention the death

00:24:53.240 so let's not do this rewrite it again and you started to understand they would never say there

00:24:58.940 was anything wrong with the story quite the opposite they would say this is a brilliant

00:25:02.160 story this is a great story we're going to save it for next week just do this do that and it would

00:25:07.120 never air and that was the story of people i don't know if it was people connected at a higher level

00:25:12.520 that didn't want these stories to air,

00:25:14.440 you know, that were outside the lobbying CBS.

00:25:18.080 He says that what Barry is doing

00:25:21.400 is censoring the stories,

00:25:24.900 and I think he said that management had instructed me

00:25:31.280 to inject lies into my reporting, yada, yada, yada.

00:25:35.640 Do you believe any of that?

00:25:38.080 No, I don't.

00:25:38.960 I believe that most likely, based on my experience, they were trying to make the stories more balanced and fair.

00:25:47.480 And the culture among some at CBS, and I think it's gotten worse since I left, was not to do so.

00:25:54.280 And I think they don't understand or came to not understand the very basic tenets of journalism, which I worked really hard.

00:26:01.640 Not that I always understood this, but I really tried to grow and understand and listen to criticism over the years.

00:26:06.880 showing the other side of a story even if you strongly believe in one side you're telling does

00:26:12.440 not weaken the story it strengthens the story even if you're a liberal and you're telling a

00:26:17.840 liberal perspective the liberals in the audience actually appreciate knowing what the other side

00:26:22.000 of the argument is and i think barry weiss is simply trying to tug cbs news back a little bit

00:26:28.480 closer to the center but the inmates have been running that asylum for a long time and they're

00:26:33.800 not going to go down quietly you know down this new path is it too late to save the 60 minutes i

00:26:42.740 mean i i read that they were looking to put things now you know online i mean it seems like they have

00:26:48.100 a real plan to bring it into the you know 21st century um and revive it and i don't think losing

00:26:56.820 some of these you know names forever that were associated with television um is not i don't

00:27:03.520 necessarily think that's bad if they can get the formula right which i always thought 60 minutes

00:27:10.300 was always very fair i mean you know you were on 60 minutes you were in trouble because they

00:27:15.960 had the goods on you and it was balanced um you know they would they would say look the other

00:27:21.860 side says this and they would really do their homework i think there's a craving for that kind

00:27:26.780 of work, but can 60 Minutes do it? I think so. I think it's got a huge name. I think the name

00:27:35.260 60 Minutes is bigger than any personality that's been there in recent years. It hasn't been the

00:27:39.640 60 Minutes that we knew, Glenn, since they lost all the originals. So it's always been something

00:27:45.680 that's in transition in the past 10, 20, 25 years. And yes, I think the name survives the

00:27:51.940 personalities, and they still do some, as I heard someone note, many of their stories that are

00:27:57.980 unrelated to these political slants that you're talking about are great stories. They still do

00:28:02.680 good stories and can continue to do great journalism with other people, other producers

00:28:07.800 and other reporters. There's not a short supply of people who want to do great journalism. They're

00:28:13.660 just not allowed to do that the way they used to be at the networks.

00:28:17.340 if you got a call today from barry or the new producer and they said we want you to come back

00:28:25.720 to 60 minutes or why don't you come back to cbs and to do 60 minutes would you even consider it

00:28:31.980 i couldn't now because i'm in contract i'm doing at least one more year of my tv program number one

00:28:39.380 number two i did get a call about a year ago asking about my availability for a leadership role

00:28:46.960 at CBS, CNN, Washington Post, Berkeley School of Graduate Journalism, and ABC.

00:28:56.560 You know, they're all, this is what's talking to me, but good.

00:29:00.840 They want to, I'm talking about the corporate executive level, not the newsroom.

00:29:05.460 As I said, they want to tug their organizations back closer to the middle.

00:29:09.160 They know they have a problem.

00:29:11.140 But as I told the person that I was speaking to about these opportunities,

00:29:15.700 this is going to take somebody I hope Barry Weiss can do it that can stand up and then get the

00:29:22.200 support as the as internally she is murdered you know symbolically by those who don't want to

00:29:29.740 change she's got to stand firm and continue to get the support of the higher-ups despite the

00:29:34.680 publicity that will be generated against her and everything else that's a tough job that I didn't

00:29:40.520 think i could do time wise and everything else i hope she can and i would love to do stories for

00:29:47.540 60 minutes you know in some capacity if i weren't committed to something else because i do i do

00:29:54.060 believe in them and the mission and the program is is awesome and i think it it will survive and

00:29:59.960 i think they're thinking about the way to make it survive and be better which is great i have to

00:30:06.600 tell you um i i was shocked to see barry weiss go to cbs and all the moves that i've seen her make

00:30:15.440 i just think she's doing incredible work i don't agree with everything obviously um but um i think

00:30:22.040 she's doing incredible work yeoman's work i mean i don't know how she i don't know how she does it

00:30:28.460 every day you know there's i know you you know this feeling there's a way you walk into a room

00:30:33.300 every single day where you know all your co-workers hate your guts i worked at cnn i know that feeling

00:30:40.040 it's hard that is really hard that's right she's got to be tough tough tough and i don't know the

00:30:48.300 man that they appointed to lead 60 minutes but just on paper he sounds like a great choice

00:30:54.020 he's just not vested in the old system and the old people in a way that makes him more objective

00:30:59.420 about the decisions he's going to make for the good of the show and nothing else.

00:31:03.180 You know, there's no other baggage, you know, dragging him down,

00:31:07.040 making him make decisions that might not be the best for what he thinks is the program.

00:31:12.360 Cheryl, thank you so much.

00:31:13.800 Always good to talk to you.

00:31:14.920 All my best.

00:31:15.740 Thanks, Glenn.

00:31:16.600 Thanks.

00:31:17.320 You bet.

00:31:18.100 Cheryl Atkinson, investigative reporter, host of Full Measure.

00:31:21.060 You can find her on our website at CherylAtkinson.com

00:31:24.920 or on X at Cheryl, spelled with a Y and an S, S-H-A-R-Y-L, I guess I should spell it, Cheryl Atkinson.

00:31:35.200 This is the best of the Glenn Beck Program.

00:31:46.780 We're just a few months out from the midterms now, and I know the results from that might be

00:31:53.140 not maybe not what we want could be i mean it is really to me this is a coin toss at this point

00:31:58.240 it seemed really bad and now it might seem like maybe the country wakes up through some of this

00:32:03.540 stuff i don't know it's important to realize that change can happen and it can happen for the better

00:32:09.260 and that kind of change comes from you and me if you are in a fight against leftism uh and you want

00:32:15.580 the republic you want the constitution and the declaration to rule supreme then we have to do

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00:32:44.680 free month of service make the switch today vicky palladino welcome to the program how are you vicky

00:32:50.460 ah good morning glenn how are you i'm good thank you great i just absolutely

00:32:55.600 uh uh so uh so vicky i i read this story earlier this week and i said this guy can't be in

00:33:05.700 congress how is he going to get how are we going to give him any kind of security clearance

00:33:10.600 because of his past fill us in on what you know of him and what your thoughts are all right i'm

00:33:17.500 going to read a little if you don't mind i want to run down only because i want to be extremely

00:33:21.840 accurate uh this guy is known to al-qaeda as an al-qaeda associate has a long relationship as the

00:33:30.020 mastermind of the 1993 world trade center bombings both before and after the bombing he worked with

00:33:39.240 the blind sheik, okay, including defending him in court. He traveled to Bosnia in the 1990s

00:33:47.900 and worked with an al-Qaeda front group after the October 7th attacks. He traveled then to Gaza

00:34:00.340 where he worked in a hospital which was above a tunnel where the leader of Hamas was found.

00:34:07.340 now in a sane world this would be totally disqualifying then he joined the united states

00:34:15.700 army and he worked as a surgeon how is this possible all right so now blend we've got a

00:34:24.420 democratic party who has totally given up on on this for so many different reasons uh first of

00:34:32.180 all, they're weak. Second of all, did they adapt the attitude that why fight it? We may as well

00:34:38.620 join it. But this guy is in the 12th district in New Jersey. That's the Princeton district.

00:34:46.100 That is where my Ivy Tower, I call them Ivy Tower liberals. That's where they live. This is a very,

00:34:52.860 very wealthy part of New Jersey. And he won it. And because it's so blue, chances are he's going

00:35:01.180 to maintain a seat in the united states congress but there's other things i want to talk about

00:35:07.100 let me give you some time it's your show good no no i i just want to know so what do you do about

00:35:13.340 that well i think we could start first with the republicans making this an extreme uh serious case

00:35:20.780 while they run for these midterm elections republicans need to understand that this needs

00:35:26.980 to become part of the everyday conversations. We are allowing terrorists into our congressional

00:35:36.900 body. And are you aware, and I'm sure the listeners are not aware, I wasn't aware until

00:35:42.360 yesterday, that if the Democrats succeed in taking over the House in the midterm elections,

00:35:51.200 they will appoint this guy if the republicans maintain their uh by one or two seats if we hold

00:35:59.600 this we do not have to appoint this guy he does not have to come in and sit in congress

00:36:05.900 i don't think many people know that but we have the ability not to seat him

00:36:11.000 i i have to tell you what you know i just got back from europe and i saw how this is happening

00:36:19.340 to europe where you know you have these islamists that are just taking over the cities taking over

00:36:25.740 you know the parliaments um and everybody's just turning a blind eye to it i can't believe

00:36:32.560 on the 20th year of the 25th anniversary of 9-11 new jersey todd beamer's home district

00:36:39.960 um crazy we've just i mean i i said earlier today vicky i i i you could make a case that

00:36:50.880 osama bin laden has either won or is winning oh yeah absolutely i i couldn't agree with you more

00:36:58.300 on that when we look at our constitution you know it's not a suicide pack our our constitution

00:37:04.900 and yet we have uh people who don't want to challenge this in any way shape or form that

00:37:12.440 sits in government right now how is this possible uh i'm going to tell you something the people are

00:37:18.720 getting furious who are the people the people are you and the people are me and the people like us

00:37:23.960 we're not going to tolerate much more of this glenn uh this is we're in a very dangerous place

00:37:29.740 and i think what does that mean to you vicky what does that mean to you you're not going to tolerate

00:37:34.120 much more of this what does that mean well you know what uh there's going to be problems we have

00:37:41.160 here in new york city zoran as our mayor and we're watching what's happening i mean for example

00:37:48.180 zoran appointed to uh that one of the uh unindicted co-conspirators of the 1993 world

00:37:56.840 Trade Center bombing, sits as our chief counsel right now in City Hall. This is what's going on

00:38:04.800 in New York City. He's canceled block parties and permits for block parties to celebrate the

00:38:12.440 250th anniversary of this great nation that we live in. And I have to say, people are getting

00:38:20.720 more than fed up. We're watching prayer mats getting laid out in front of the very first

00:38:26.980 firehouse that responded on 9-11. And this is mockery. They are mocking us. And you made a

00:38:34.380 very good point when you said, in a sense, are they winning? Well, right now, if you look around,

00:38:41.080 you know, the Republicans are holding on tight, as tight as they can. And yet we cannot pass

00:38:49.580 the SAFE Act. How is that possible, Glenn? How can we actually find asking for voter ID

00:38:56.600 an invasion of somebody's privacy? Why didn't this pass months ago with flying colors?

00:39:04.460 Why? People are weak. They are willing to accept this and use our constitution

00:39:11.200 and what our forefathers fought for and understood

00:39:17.220 and had foresight to see what we could not see

00:39:21.320 until we're in it right now, this is bizarre.

00:39:25.040 We're not existing in a sane world, Glenn.

00:39:28.020 This is insanity.

00:39:29.940 I know, but thank God I'm not living where you are.

00:39:32.620 I mean, you're up in city council of New York City.

00:39:38.120 Yeah, and anybody who talks about...

00:39:41.200 Go ahead. No, I'm saying anybody who speaks out, as I have. Look, I feel myself as a truth teller.

00:39:48.900 People need to know an educated voter is the best voter that we've got.

00:39:54.280 And they're able to make decisions. You know, those that are so far left and off a cliff,

00:39:59.820 you can't bother with those folks. You got to hit the Democrats and the independents

00:40:04.220 who are equally as fed up as we are here in New York. Anyway, we have to go after those folks.

00:40:10.620 we have to educate you feel that you you feel that there are i mean because there's a a great

00:40:15.760 debate happens almost every day within my own audience they're like glenn there's no democrat

00:40:20.440 left that is they're all crazy and i'm like no i don't think that's true i think they just have

00:40:25.760 okay given up any go ahead given up not showing up to polls to vote uh the way they should uh

00:40:36.300 you know, we have to, in my district, for example, it's a district 19. I am in charge of 175,000

00:40:44.580 people. Uh, this is an eight to one Democrat seat. And I am the first Republican that any of

00:40:51.220 them have ever voted for. Uh, blue dog, blue dog Democrats said, Vicki, I'm voting for you.

00:40:58.360 And I won, uh, out of my three times running, uh, two times was a landslide. First time they

00:41:05.940 didn't know me so well then I put myself in the belly of the beast and I educated the Democrats

00:41:11.540 and it was very important that they understand that there's a sense of common sense still left

00:41:18.200 but these young people who have taken over our city that's a different story uh because they're

00:41:25.640 only passers-by they're not people who are going to put their roots here and stay here we've got

00:41:31.680 of vested interest in this city uh this guy won this young man has won uh and much to our dismay

00:41:40.180 he puts on that big stupid grin and he's winning over people every single day every single day

00:41:47.980 he's winning over people well i hope you're right i can't understand how you know the blue dog

00:41:56.980 democrat the person that was the average working guy cannot relate to your average college professor

00:42:03.460 and the republicans have always been seen as well they're in with big business big business is a

00:42:09.480 piece of cake compared to the college professors if you want to talk about people of that are in

00:42:13.940 and out of touch um but the big business is now all on the left all big special interest is on

00:42:20.980 the left uh and you have uh you know all the elites all the eggheads on the left and i don't

00:42:27.360 understand why more people don't see no no this is the working class this is the average person

00:42:33.880 against the elites and they're pretty much all on one side right now good you know we also have a

00:42:40.840 media this is media driven propaganda just like in communism you know they don't hear the other

00:42:49.620 side our side they're focused on one thing orange man bad trump bad republican bad uh they're going

00:42:58.660 to do this to you they're going to do that to you and now when you back up that propaganda

00:43:03.580 with the the gazillions of different forms of media that people have to watch and uh you've

00:43:12.220 got the likes of uh hasan uh what's his name yeah yeah uh piker uh and you've got these other folks

00:43:21.460 that have got multi-billion you know million hundreds of millions of followers then you got

00:43:26.440 your average abc for us here abc nbc cbs you know the average joe comes home from work and they're

00:43:34.120 they're flipping on their tv to watch the six o'clock news here in new york and they're listening

00:43:39.240 to CBS, NBC, our regular network news. They're not going right away to cable. They might be in

00:43:46.780 their kitchen preparing dinner. They're not watching Fox or they're not watching you or

00:43:52.200 they're not watching Newsmax or any of the News Nation, any of the center. They're listening to

00:43:58.640 just regular news that they've trusted for years and years and years. And now you're hearing your

00:44:05.100 trusted news people telling you all false information totally false information there

00:44:12.360 might be a dabble or two of truth to it but they they don't elongate on it they stay stay focused

00:44:19.880 on 30 second news bites 30 second news bites and people are brainwashed every single day you pick

00:44:28.520 up the newspaper you've got the you've got the new york times you've got the daily news here in new

00:44:35.200 york you've got your other newspapers this is what people are reading so you have voices like yours

00:44:41.500 voices like mine other voices very similar to ours who are fighting left and right and pardon the pun

00:44:49.840 uh to try to get this message out uh so we've got a big election coming up in new york for for the

00:44:57.620 governor and i'm going to give bruce blakeman a big plug now and i'm going to tell everybody

00:45:03.060 that if we do not replace the new york state governor this race in november and we don't cut

00:45:09.860 the snake's head off we are in serious trouble she has taken a knee to zoran hochel now we've

00:45:17.460 watched it for the past year and we're going to only watch it get worse and worse we'll have to

00:45:24.520 have him on what's his name again uh bruce blakeman okay thank you all right good thank

00:45:34.540 you i appreciate it vicky palatino she is a palatino she is the new york city councilwoman

00:45:39.840 uh on the new jersey 12th district uh the guy who is

00:45:45.560 not a good guy not a good guy uh and i don't know how we can have him in our congress

00:45:54.140 when he has had fingerprints all over the World Trade Center bombing and Al-Qaeda.

00:46:01.900 Not good. Just not good.

00:46:04.600 Hey, just a programming note on a couple of things.

00:46:07.280 I am joining Moms for Liberty aboard the legendary USS Midway.

00:46:12.200 And you are invited to come as we celebrate 250 years of America's freedom

00:46:16.240 and honor the heroes that made it possible.

00:46:18.660 uh i'm giving the keynote uh like i did up in uh new york at the statue of liberty this time

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00:46:31.920 this weekend this saturday tickets are still available you can get them at momsforliberty.org

00:46:37.400 momsforliberty.org a sighting of glenbeck in california is as rare as um honestly bigfoot

00:46:45.460 it just it just doesn't happen i cannot remember the last time i did something publicly in

00:46:52.260 california and i always i want to go to california because i love the california conservatives because

00:46:58.400 they're just like water please water uh i remember i did a an event in san francisco once at the

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00:47:54.740 um there is a change that is afoot um and i i felt it when i was in europe and i feel it now

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